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Cauliflower Of Love

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57360 on: February 04, 2019, 01:15:59 PM »
Has anyone deployed the “he’s not racist, he’s just European” defense yet?

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Like seriously I know this forum is heavily American centric but finding out a white man in 1970's Ireland was racist shouldn't be this surprising, again you'd be hard pushed to find a person who wasn't like that in that era, we're talking about a country that covered up killing babies, refusing women's rights, killing gay people, etc, and you're surprised the average white man was also racist?

Nobody is saying what he did/thought was right, even himself, but let's not try and pretend it was a surprising thing.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/liam-neesons-real-life-rape-revenge-tale-see-staff-post.97615/post-17568960

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57361 on: February 04, 2019, 01:17:42 PM »
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Lol the premise sounds wild. "A Black teen stole my bicycle so I spent two weeks hunting my own people".

Dude just compared a woman being raped to a stolen bike.

yikes

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57362 on: February 04, 2019, 01:20:04 PM »
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I think some aren't getting it.
You have to ask yourself why did the fucker want to kill any black man minding their own business.
Had they crossed him he would've killed them.

Killing the rapist didn't even matter, man wanted to go beat black people because "all black people are beneath me" is/was the mindset.
It's fucked up, you can't even switch the races here, if my future daughter or relative were raped I won't go hunting any white person.
What kind of thinking is that? If you have any of those thoughts lingering on your mind you've got the old racist bug, mate.

Stop the excuses, it's messed up what he thought of doing, I'm just glad it never came to pass.

:thinking

Rampage murderer neeson himself said it didn't make any sense, and said what triggered him.

But you have to ask yourself still.

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57363 on: February 04, 2019, 01:20:13 PM »
They want white people to take responsibility for their racism but don't want white people to admit their past racist incidents nor give them any room for redemption if they do. You can't say you took responsibility for your racism if you never admit to it, and their reactions to Neeson's admission heavily incentives white people to keep quiet about their racism. They get no benefit of the doubt that they are a different person.

Don't see how they can put that square peg in that round hole.

Neesam didn't address this story as if he was being racist;  if he specifically addressed that part the reaction would be different.  I'm sure some would still act the same towards him but some would probably be more reasonable.

Either way, I'm not going to tell a black person how to feel or who to fogrive after reading a story like this.  Like he is literally describing wanting to murder random black people...

I'm assuming Neesom saying those thoughts he had were terrible included the racism. Though I admit I'm probably being a bit lax with him about that.

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57364 on: February 04, 2019, 01:20:17 PM »
Has anyone deployed the “he’s not racist, he’s just European” defense yet?
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How difficult is it to not want to kill black people?
Now? Not difficult at all, it's obviously wrong.

Back in 1970's Ireland at a time when racism was rife and society deemed them lesser than and that they should run out along with the protestants and the gays? Pretty difficult.

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57365 on: February 04, 2019, 01:20:34 PM »
They want white people to take responsibility for their racism but don't want white people to admit their past racist incidents nor give them any room for redemption if they do. You can't say you took responsibility for your racism if you never admit to it, and their reactions to Neeson's admission heavily incentives white people to keep quiet about their racism. They get no benefit of the doubt that they are a different person.

Don't see how they can put that square peg in that round hole.

Dude, it's not about redemption or redeemability.  This isn't a question of ethics, here.

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Liam Neeson isn't contributing anything to society that we can't do without and he's not entitled to forgiveness for performative decency.


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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57366 on: February 04, 2019, 01:21:45 PM »
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He needs serious mental help. You don't just wander the streets looking to kill and tell me afterwards you're a stable mind.

It's a shame that we have to wait until he inevitably murders a black man before he goes to jail... or is called "racist", apparently.
inevitably

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57367 on: February 04, 2019, 01:21:57 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/liam-neesons-real-life-rape-revenge-tale-see-staff-post.97615/post-17569675

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In a world where killing black people is basically an actual profession you can get paid for, apparently it's real difficult.

 :dunno

Nepenthe is putting in work in this thread

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57368 on: February 04, 2019, 01:22:09 PM »
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This thread is just a timely reminder that black people are supposed to instantly forgive and forget any instances of past racism.
Yep.

The moment we say "this is unforgivable" is the moment white people will be scared to death of what the answer is to "What should the consequences be for continuance of centuries of black-directed racism and violence?"

None of these cowards want to deal with that. So beg for forgiveness to pass the buck along.
this tryhard lol

Wow, that sounds awfully close like she wants to go cruising down the street looking for whites to bludgeon. I mean if it’s ‘unforgivable’ maybe she should say what those consequences should be?

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57369 on: February 04, 2019, 01:22:48 PM »
They want white people to take responsibility for their racism but don't want white people to admit their past racist incidents nor give them any room for redemption if they do. You can't say you took responsibility for your racism if you never admit to it, and their reactions to Neeson's admission heavily incentives white people to keep quiet about their racism. They get no benefit of the doubt that they are a different person.

Don't see how they can put that square peg in that round hole.

Neesam didn't address this story as if he was being racist;  if he specifically addressed that part the reaction would be different.  I'm sure some would still act the same towards him but some would probably be more reasonable.

Either way, I'm not going to tell a black person how to feel or who to fogrive after reading a story like this.  Like he is literally describing wanting to murder random black people...

I'm assuming Neesom saying those thoughts he had were terrible included the racism. Though I admit I'm probably being a bit lax with him about that.

It's pretty weird that they would separate the two things.

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57370 on: February 04, 2019, 01:23:06 PM »
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Dismantlement of white supremacy. A South African style recognition of the problem with a German-style purging of white supremacist symbols in society. Significant cash flow routed back to ailing neighborhoods and businesses of color. Tax breaks and debt waivers for people of color. The whole shebang.

It will never happen, but things like that are the least you could do for the shit y'all continue to pull.
thanks, will write a letter to my congressman

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57371 on: February 04, 2019, 01:23:41 PM »
Nepenthe is putting in work in this thread
it's because they can't ban anyone yet

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57372 on: February 04, 2019, 01:24:12 PM »
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Liam Neeson isn't contributing anything to society that we can't do without and he's not entitled to forgiveness for performative decency.

If only he was providing a valuable service to society, like manually writing out post counts

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57373 on: February 04, 2019, 01:24:20 PM »



yaaaaaas

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57375 on: February 04, 2019, 01:25:49 PM »
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Hell, just speaking on Neeson, has he done any kind of charity work or gone through any effort to actually lift up the people he was ready to blindly slaughter years ago?
good god the madman is blindly slaughtering people that he sees that are black

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57376 on: February 04, 2019, 01:26:18 PM »
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Hell, just speaking on Neeson, has he done any kind of charity work or gone through any effort to actually lift up the people he was ready to blindly slaughter years ago? Or has he just forgiven himself and internalized that literal revenge killing innocents is bad and continued with his career? That kind of actual sea change would go a long way to making me feel as if Neeson was truly regretful for his insanity and interested in repaying a community he was ready to literally use to satisfy his urge to kill.

This is amazing.

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57377 on: February 04, 2019, 01:27:11 PM »
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When he uses air quotes and says "black bastard", I feel like "black bastard" was not what he said in the story.
Enzom21 knows what he said

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57378 on: February 04, 2019, 01:27:22 PM »
What a stable, impartial moderator.

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57379 on: February 04, 2019, 01:27:45 PM »
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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57380 on: February 04, 2019, 01:28:25 PM »
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The article tries to frame his racist toxic masculinity as cool.

 :doge

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57381 on: February 04, 2019, 01:28:55 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/thoughts-on-the-asian-fetish.97657/
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Like I'm sure many of my fellow Resetera posters, I have a bit of an inclination towards Asian women. Now I know that as a cis white male, it's a bit on the nose, what with the whole fetishising "subservient" Asian females,

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57382 on: February 04, 2019, 01:30:04 PM »
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Do they know it from within themselves? Have you confronted the darkest impulses within you and come out the other side? My own experiences, and the simplistic judgements of people in this forum, tell me that the majority of people have never bothered to engage in any kind of deep introspection.

Their views of themselves are simple and they judge others accordingly.
speaking of dudes who have killed people

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57383 on: February 04, 2019, 01:31:02 PM »
Found throat slitting Neeson's era account


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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57384 on: February 04, 2019, 01:32:15 PM »
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100%. More stuff like this needs to happen. So many people do bad things yet just never talk about it. Talk about the horrible shit you did and condemn how shitty it was. Imho, that's a strong indicator of growth. Much better than repressing something forever.
more blind slaughters of innocent black people need to happen? jfc

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57385 on: February 04, 2019, 01:32:24 PM »
I'm assuming Neesom saying those thoughts he had were terrible included the racism. Though I admit I'm probably being a bit lax with him about that.
He only addresses that the lust for revenge was wrong, not the part where he felt like he'd be getting revenge as long as he killed a black person..

Maybe I'm wrong, but the vibe I get from that interview isn't that he's seperating the ugliness of a revenge fantasy from the racist implications of the target.
He sees it all as a shameful thing he went through in a dark period of time.

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57386 on: February 04, 2019, 01:33:59 PM »
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Hate crimes are not a flaw or a mistake. They’re hate crimes.
and genocide like Liam Neeson committed in the 1970s is even worse!

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57387 on: February 04, 2019, 01:34:05 PM »
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Now us black folks have to have a Saw-style reckoning before we can condemn an attempted lynching?

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57388 on: February 04, 2019, 01:35:13 PM »
why does Nepthene keep thinking it would be a lynching :lol

do they not know what a lynching is? :thinking

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57389 on: February 04, 2019, 01:35:59 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/liam-neesons-real-life-rape-revenge-tale-see-staff-post.97615/post-17570301

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If I ever go out looking to kill random folks on the basis of them sharing the skin color of a person who wronged a family member, I will be the first to admit this shit is normal.

sounds an awful lot like downplaying rape as 'being wronged'.

Maybe one of you era mods lurking could get Nepenthe to step away from the keyboard for a bit, because their contributions in that topic are getting prrrreeeeeeeettttyy yikes

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57390 on: February 04, 2019, 01:37:28 PM »
Why do they keep calling it a lynching? A lynching doesn’t always involve a hanging, but it by definition needs a mob. Is that just the de jour term now to make it sound worse?

EDIT: what the cat said.

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57391 on: February 04, 2019, 01:37:51 PM »
You get a "vibe"? He doesn't say any words to the effect of this vibe. You'd think if he was addressing the racist aspect.... he'd address the racist aspect with.. words?

Yeah, hes addressing the incident as a particular state of mind. Hes not seperating it out into "I wanted to kill someone. Also I was super racist. I feel bad about the killing part now. I'm ambivalent to fine with the racist aspect tho"

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57392 on: February 04, 2019, 01:38:30 PM »
The biggest hurdle to this will always be the competitors though. I have competed in hundreds if not thousands of times in a sport that is always divided by weight and gender. Win or lose I just love the sport and I honestly do not really feel any different after a win or a loss. In fact many wins just have me feeling bad for my opponent because they lost. However most athletes are not this way. Many want to win at all costs and it means everything to them. A loss for some equals hate, jealousy, depression, and every excuse imaginable from poor officiating to my opponent was born a male.
YOU THINK?

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57393 on: February 04, 2019, 01:38:48 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/thoughts-on-the-asian-fetish.97657/
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Like I'm sure many of my fellow Resetera posters, I have a bit of an inclination towards Asian women. Now I know that as a cis white male, it's a bit on the nose, what with the whole fetishising "subservient" Asian females,

this has potential. already some very mad reees in there


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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57395 on: February 04, 2019, 01:40:17 PM »
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He’s talking about how he felt and the actions he took to deal with those feelings (carrying a weapon on him). Do you really believe that over a whole week he never saw a black person? Despite coming off like he was actively looking? That doesn’t make sense.
Right, there's dead bodies from Liam Neeson out there. We need to dig up all of Ireland if need be.

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57396 on: February 04, 2019, 01:40:49 PM »
Neeson: "Goddamn, I'm loaded now I don't want to play in these dumb movies anymore"

Agent: "Hi Liam, Do you want to have another go at Qui Gon Jinn? Disney is doing a series reboot historic alternate universe of Star Wars Episode 1 and I was having a chat with Kathleen..."

*2 weeks later*

"SO I WANTED TO KILL THIS BLACK MOTHERFUCKER BUT"
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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57397 on: February 04, 2019, 01:42:35 PM »
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When he uses air quotes and says "black bastard", I feel like "black bastard" was not what he said in the story.
Had the same thoughts.
yikes

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57398 on: February 04, 2019, 01:43:19 PM »
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A week looking to lynch people is not "clouded judgement", that is something deep rooted

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57399 on: February 04, 2019, 01:43:50 PM »
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Dude is probably in all these action revenge movies to satisfy his urge to kill people. The whole thing fucking fits. Probably disappointed that he's not exclusively killing black people though.
EXACTLY

EXCEPT HE ALSO DID IT OFF SET

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57400 on: February 04, 2019, 01:44:57 PM »
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it's in the recording
Doesn't mean he isn't thinking it. (Hint: He absolutely is)

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57401 on: February 04, 2019, 01:45:03 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/thoughts-on-the-asian-fetish.97657/
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Like I'm sure many of my fellow Resetera posters, I have a bit of an inclination towards Asian women. Now I know that as a cis white male, it's a bit on the nose, what with the whole fetishising "subservient" Asian females,

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The author comes from an area of the US that is known for its high ratio of WMAF couples, but generally both sides are educated unlike the Thais you see running around Bangkok or Cebu

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« Reply #57402 on: February 04, 2019, 01:46:32 PM »
I think we finally found the guy responsible for all those gamergate death threats -- it was fucking Neeson!
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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57403 on: February 04, 2019, 01:46:56 PM »
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'fact that some white dudes unironically think it's "easy" to get an Asian girl if they go to these countries because Asian men are "submissive" only serves to support this argument. '


someone has clearly never been to the philippines or such. it really is easy, even if you are an obese white man.

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57404 on: February 04, 2019, 01:47:13 PM »
Dating a white man is probably the second most racist thing you could ever do, after being one.
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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57405 on: February 04, 2019, 01:47:50 PM »
You get a "vibe"? He doesn't say any words to the effect of this vibe. You'd think if he was addressing the racist aspect.... he'd address the racist aspect with.. words?

Yeah, hes addressing the incident as a particular state of mind. Hes not seperating it out into "I wanted to kill someone. Also I was super racist. I feel bad about the killing part now. I'm ambivalent to fine with the racist aspect tho"

Like, is someone suddenly came out with "After my wife died, I was at my lowest ebb. I was drinking 2 litres of vodka a day. I put on 150lbs. I was sucking dicks at truckstops for crack. Eventually I met someone new, got clean, got my life back together and got back into shape" the followup isn't "But you still sucking truckstop dick right?"

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57406 on: February 04, 2019, 01:49:15 PM »
people are mentioning how few black people are in Ireland but have they considered that this may be because Liam Neeson killed them all in the 1970s?

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57407 on: February 04, 2019, 01:49:59 PM »
Y'all gotta stop creating juicy threads I'm trying to get work done over here

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57408 on: February 04, 2019, 01:50:35 PM »
We’ve been given a bounty of spicy threads today!
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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57409 on: February 04, 2019, 01:52:42 PM »
Maybe I'm wrong, but the vibe I get from that interview isn't that he's seperating the ugliness of a revenge fantasy from the racist implications of the target.
He sees it all as a shameful thing he went through in a dark period of time.

You get a "vibe"? He doesn't say any words to the effect of this vibe. You'd think if he was addressing the racist aspect.... he'd address the racist aspect with.. words?

Vibes are real. I get vibes every day of my life

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57410 on: February 04, 2019, 01:57:56 PM »
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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57411 on: February 04, 2019, 02:02:03 PM »
Dating a white man is probably the second most racist thing you could ever do, after being one.

what about lynching black bastards

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57412 on: February 04, 2019, 02:03:18 PM »
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I am going to go out on a limb here and say that the vast majority of posters saying "good on him for opening up and growing" are white. And that at least a good portion of those saying "no, fuck him" are black. Instead of trying to explain why someone should be able to open up about things like this, try understanding that not everyone has to look past shit like that. Especially someone who is black.

I'm sorry but I'm not going to let my child hang around some admitted sexual predator because he says he feels bad about preying on children back in the day.
woah, Liam Neeson is a sexual predator too?!?

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57413 on: February 04, 2019, 02:04:30 PM »
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Whilst promoting his new movie about a terrorist plot, Denzil Washington revealed today that he once planned to blow up a Synagogue after a Jewish man ran over his dog. He went as far as to research the times where there would be most children present and planted the explosives, but a faulty detonator stopped the bombs from going off. After 4 more failed attempts he abandoned the idea. People are falling over themselves to praise his bravery and growth after saying "In retrospect it would have probably been a bad thing if the bombs went off". The movie opens February 8th.
wow, learning so much about these murderous famous actors

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57414 on: February 04, 2019, 02:06:08 PM »
Between the idea
And the reality
Between the motion
And the act
Falls the Shadow


 - some old dead white dude who was probably alt-right that era wont have heard of

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57415 on: February 04, 2019, 02:06:11 PM »
Dating a white man is probably the second most racist thing you could ever do, after being one.

what about lynching black bastards

Will Sasso's dad knows about black bastards


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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57416 on: February 04, 2019, 02:06:21 PM »
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I am going to go out on a limb here and say that the vast majority of posters saying "good on him for opening up and growing" are white. And that at least a good portion of those saying "no, fuck him" are black. Instead of trying to explain why someone should be able to open up about things like this, try understanding that not everyone has to look past shit like that. Especially someone who is black.

I'm sorry but I'm not going to let my child hang around some admitted sexual predator because he says he feels bad about preying on children back in the day.
woah, Liam Neeson is a sexual predator too?!?

Plot twist: Neeson, in a state of Fight Club-esque delusion and split personality was the very person who originally *airquote* wronged *airquote* his friend while wearing blackface. He then went on a lynching spree that depleted Northern Ireland of its black population

Nintex

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57417 on: February 04, 2019, 02:06:35 PM »
Glad the waypoint crew landed on their feet
 :whew

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samfish

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57418 on: February 04, 2019, 02:07:25 PM »
Given the amount of black on black violence, it seems to me that looking to kill a black persons is pretty common. I don’t know why they want to hold Liam Neeson to a different standard just because he’s white. Seems pretty racist to me.

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57419 on: February 04, 2019, 02:08:14 PM »
Plot twist: Neeson, in a state of Fight Club-esque delusion and split personality was the very person who originally *airquote* wronged *airquote* his friend while wearing blackface. He then went on a lynching spree that depleted Northern Ireland of its black population
or he WRONGED them so he had "reason" for his blind genocidal war