Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread

[ShutUp]

Probably watching his forced into marriage wife get railed by a guy she's actually attracted to.

[ldcommando (notthegafone)]

He was posting in the kyuuji thread not long ago.

[benjipwns]

the actual story not the benji incompetent summary:

That's just a bunch of nonsense FACTS, I reported the TRUTH without any FACTS.

[headwalk]

i don't know what an ace is as far as gender goes, but i bet it's approximately 1000x less cool than it sounds.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

then a couple months later she was perma'd for some random bullshit and literally no one cared

Permed for telling the (mostly male) members of the whoreswhoreswhores thread women like to dress sexy and theres nothing wrong with that and arguing with weltall zero

[benjipwns]

User Banned (3 Days) - Continued cross-thread drama

User Banned (1 Week) - Continued history of meta commentary

I can't square these bans with the existence of the CDPR Transphobic thread for some reason. Can't quite put my finger on it though...

[Uncle]

i don't know what an ace is as far as gender goes, but i bet it's approximately 1000x less cool than it sounds.

it stands for american cis-exclusionary, it's an admission that you're (regrettably) american but you choose to stand with your trans friends and do whatever it takes to make sure cis people sit down and listen

[benjipwns]

It's obvious this PM has been discussed off site and several ppl made their mind up about BC BEFORE it was posted in this thread. If it was just that PM and BC didnt want to include anything in the OT about the issues, I would understand.

this is some conspiracy theory level thinking, like, multiple people come to a similar conclusion that differs from yours and it must be because they're out having secret conversations to try and mischaracteristise someone? extend the same benefit of the doubt you give to BC to the people criticising him. Perhaps they have a unique perspective that gives them this different view.

of course they talked about it "offsite", where else would the PM have come from?

[samir]

There's transgender people that face actual struggles in their lives, and then there's the transgender people on ResetERA that use their transgenderism as as shield to act like fucking assholes, and demand to be treated like royalty.

[nudemacusers]

Okay, I just had this shower thought:

I haven't seen any advertisement in the game that is objectifying male or female appearing characters.

I am gonna confirm this, but it seems REALLY odd that I can't remember seeing those, and I would expect that if they are going to do the manticore posters, they are going to do the same thing with others, right? Time to look into this.

great journalism hobbes

bruh how is this possible when this
https://www.resetera.com/threads/cyberpunk-2077-spoiler-thread.331304/page-21#post-53275039

has like three of them. it's almost like you're used to female/male sexualized advertisement so it goes unnoticed 🤯

[benjipwns]

It's all over the promotional material, that one thing they sent out last week was like ten pages of fake sexualized ads. The "MIX IT UP" TRANSPHOBIC ad was one of a set of fake hypersexualized ads they had at E3 for it, like the MILF one, ResetERA.com only cared about the trans one for obvious reasons.

[Chim Richalds]

Meanwhile, the daily suicide thread...

https://www.resetera.com/threads/toxic-positivity-is-the-worst.339088/

[I am (not) a weeb]

It's all over the promotional material, that one thing they sent out last week was like ten pages of fake sexualized ads. The "MIX IT UP" TRANSPHOBIC ad was one of a set of fake hypersexualized ads they had at E3 for it, like the MILF one, ResetERA.com only cared about the trans one for obvious reasons.

MILF SUMMIT when? 

[benjipwns]

MILF SUMMIT when? 

It'll be at:

[benjipwns]

imagine having a serious lengthy conversation about gender representation with someone and they drop in some goofy meme shit in the middle of it to 'take the edge off'. at best i'd think their investment was insincere, at worst i'd think they had a personality disorder.

that you put trans rights on the same level as hyukin' it up about sitting in your joke post at all is kinda tasteless imo.

[benjipwns]

wait I was gone 2 hours playing with friends and I come back to icemonk getting banned and that pm that just reeks of sand burying. What the absolute fuck is that shit I am really grossed out and disgusted with that dude even more now. That man needs his OT taken away from him there is no excuse. Dude doesn't give a fuck about trans issues and that thread is even worse than it was before. I'm severely considering leaving sooner than I thought if this is how Era sees us in the community. But hell might as well derail the thread talking about trans issues. It's more fucked when you realize the first replies when the OT opened up were from racist dickheads. I'm really frustrated and upset and I have no words. Era needs to do better and while I've fucking fought for this community tonight has been very hard to keep going.

oh no, the troll account is threatening to leave again

edit: THEY'RE GOING IN TO START SHIT

Sorry y’all, ended up jumping back in when Kyuuji got misgendered.

I finally understand why some of my elders said do what I say, not what I do.

Wait what? I'm going in that's completely unacceptable. Kyuuji I am so sorry this is happening and I feel so deeply frustrated. Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help.

[paprikastaude]

Obviously I will eat a ban of 6 months for typing which words I would want to type there, as big mature words aren't allowed here, games filled with tits and hatred are perfectly fine, as is people pissing on the marginalised.

I know what words I typed there, for that poster, describing them, you know the words I wrote, as will any cowardly impotent mod who would ever be arsed to come in here for any reason. For this site that will allow that tone deaf, insulting bullshit to happen after what happened this evening that it was allowed to come back like that, is fucking disgusting. Shame ERA, Shame!

Oh yeah you know exactly which words I used there, all of them. That one too. I used it.

****s

tits and hatred 

[Chim Richalds]

wait I was gone 2 hours playing with friends and I come back to icemonk getting banned and that pm that just reeks of sand burying. What the absolute fuck is that shit I am really grossed out and disgusted with that dude even more now. That man needs his OT taken away from him there is no excuse. Dude doesn't give a fuck about trans issues and that thread is even worse than it was before. I'm severely considering leaving sooner than I thought if this is how Era sees us in the community. But hell might as well derail the thread talking about trans issues. It's more fucked when you realize the first replies when the OT opened up were from racist dickheads. I'm really frustrated and upset and I have no words. Era needs to do better and while I've fucking fought for this community tonight has been very hard to keep going.

oh no, the troll account is threatening to leave again

“I’m considering leaving sooner than I thought”

Why does logging off of a fucking forum seemingly take more effort than moving into a new house?

[Uncle]

Meanwhile, the daily suicide thread...

https://www.resetera.com/threads/toxic-positivity-is-the-worst.339088/

era summed up in a single reply:

I am not sure if you saw the comedian thread where I brought up Doug Stanhope. I like him so much because I feel he is as authentic as it gets and as dark as it gets. I am cynical too but not to a point where I think life is not worth living. That said, I am at my happiest when most people are not.

[benjipwns]

“I’m considering leaving sooner than I thought”

Why does logging off of a fucking forum seemingly take more effort than moving into a new house?

Do you really leave if nobody notices because you didn't throw a fit on the way out and you don't drag it out as long as possible demanding they change to keep you?

Now I'm not trying to make this sound like an abusive relationship but...

[team filler]

do not let them off the mods off the hook, transera! make the mods your bitch!!


BITCH THE MODS AND CUCK THEM!

[paprikastaude]

Where the hell is MessofanEgo in all of this?

Kinda strange he's not taking the good side.  He's strangely absent when it comes to trans rights.

He knows he fucked up by not telling his parents to buy him a trans wife

[benjipwns]

Yeah, this. Take your time, relax a bit. The fight is there and we can have it when we need to, but throwing ourselves out there and getting banned now just means that they get their free hype after unlock without having to confront how others feel.

"think how much value your account has in ruining other peoples enjoyment of something!"

[benjipwns]

I honestly feel like we need to talk to staff and sort all of this out. all of this is really horrible and I just want to talk to someone and work stuff out because this isn't ok at all. I feel terrible for everyone involved and like I feel a constructive conversation with staff is necessary after all of this. And when I mean talk I mean a well constructed very detailed list of issues that we can work through in a quick and efficient manner.

You're right but all I can think of is for staff to talk to us and we come up with a faster solution so that we can mitigate the hurt and damage the trans community has faced from this recently. I don't want any more of us to fracture as it is and we need to push for change. We need more talks and more discussions because like you said stuff hasn't changed quickly enough. Maybe if we give more constructive feedback I think we can get through this much easier with much less of a headache going forward and speed up change on the site so it's much better in general. It's honestly the only idea I have now that can satisfy everyone here if a productive conversation happens with staff.

SUMMIT

[benjipwns]

I'm surprised that thread hasn't been locked, or any sort of response posted... like at all. I get they are busy but is there no one online? Did they unlock the thread and just decide to not monitor it incase something like this happened?

WHY ARE THE MODS IGNORING US LIKE THE USERS?!?

[benjipwns]

hey I was there for the original trans era conversation I want to believe that it can work.

you were?

Joined
Feb 19, 2020

weird that

*looks at the KetKat situation*

Man I miss Ketkat.

But thinking about KetKat's situation and that whole thread from last year and I'm like "maybe that's a pipe dream."

I'm sorry what was the ketkat situation?

Hobbes, stop mentioning [REDACTED]

With this and the gross anti-Asian sentiment on this forum (not on this thread) I feel increasingly uncomfortable on this site tbh.

This has already happened with multiple other communities and things didn’t change for them.

While you may be right, that doesn't mean the conversation shouldn't happen at all. At some point there will have to be a breaking point because these conversations DO keep happening.

I wonder why this is...

[ShutUp]

Demand their...third? Fourth? Summit. Meanwhile, other minority communities want just one chat with the mods.

[Tuckers Law]

All the inquisitors in that thread referencing PM’s as if posting them was okay to do.  If I were Black Chamber I’d just abandon that place after scorched-earth dropping the biggest fuck you post to that community by telling them that no amount of transitions will hide them for the monsters they are.

[benjipwns]

All the inquisitors in that thread referencing PM’s as if posting them was okay to do.

It revealed that Black Chamber is transphobic and a hatemonger who planned this four months ago, so it was for the greater good. If you don't want to be exposed as a bigot, don't be one.

[Tuckers Law]

With PM’s clearly fair game now, I’m hoping to see some wild shit posted.

[team filler]

black chamber has been playing 5D chess all along 

[ShutUp]

Posting PM's is straight up against the rules but the rules don't apply to the protected communities.

[benjipwns]

Do not send hostile or confrontational private messages to other members, especially if such contact is unsolicited. This kind of behavior, if reported, will result in a ban.

I wonder where Kyuuji sending a PM that she says she's going to fuck up a dude's threads for months, and then sharing his response with other members, falls under?

[benjipwns]

I 100 percent stand by my belief that if CDPR were MAGA or racist in their problematic behaviors this whole issue wouldnt be near as “complex “as people want to make it out

"If the situation was totally different it'd be understood very differently!"

[benjipwns]

Admittedly, being transgender myself, moments like these make me wonder if my socially transitioning is even worth it.

You're also looking at the wrong place for these answers.

[ShutUp]

Do not send hostile or confrontational private messages to other members, especially if such contact is unsolicited. This kind of behavior, if reported, will result in a ban.

I wonder where Kyuuji sending a PM that she says she's going to fuck up a dude's threads for months, and then sharing his response with other members, falls under?

Kyuuji should be awarded the Medal of Honor, IMO

[ShutUp]

Actually, give Kyuuji the Purple Heart too. What a goddamn soldier.

[benjipwns]

I think one thing moving forward is transfering ownership of the OT to someone who is better equipped to handle these sort of issues I feel strongly about this just from the genuine revulsion from trans era and it would be in the sites best interests to move forward with someone who is more willing to listen to trans issues going forward. I'm sure the current OT may have positive trans inclusion however, I do not feel that the OT itself should not be OP'ed by these people if these are the responses from them. I also feel like punishing the correct people in this situation will be an excellent step towards mending the situation such as the opening posts of the thread thanking the op.

I agree, Black Chamber should not post the OP. He should still put it together but some "third party" should post it unchanged but say they included a part about TRANS RIGHTS and everyone will be happy.

lol jk, nobody will be happy unless the mods completely ban Cyberpunk 2077 from the website ResetERA.com

ESPECIALLY NOT ME DO IT BAN IT

[paprikastaude]

I propose the official theme song for all resettis standing between the lines and just talking about the game

[Chim Richalds]

I like how people have hopped onto Black Chamber’s response to Kyuuji’s PM as being passive aggressive, when Kyuuji’s initial PM is one of the most passive aggressive things I’ve ever seen.

[benjipwns]

This is some of the worst things that happen for me, People complaining they can't have x amount of other threads, people bragging that Kyuuji or the stickied thread is ignored, people not even bothering to read the OP of that thread, coming back from a locking to cheers and backslapping as if its all OK.
It wears you down, that people care so little that they don't even bother with the pretence of caring, or rather don't bother to hide the fact they care more for a games company that you.

[benjipwns]

That's not a real option. Constant politeness in the face of apathy, microaggressions, trolling, doesn't accomplish anything. It just burns people out and drives them away. The effort has to be made by everyone, even outside of the community. If we see stuff like what went down here tonight we can't play the both sides were equally at fault card.

The OP and people who congratulated them actively hurt a group of marginalized posters today, and has likely driven many of them away from this site. They had their concerns dismissed and ignored. This thread should not have been reopened the way it was. Meanwhile trans members were being trolled in a thread that was specifically made to educate people about CDPR's transphobia. You can't expect people to take that and not be frustrated, to not be hurt, to not be human.

[paprikastaude]

That's not a real option. Constant politeness in the face of apathy, microaggressions, trolling, doesn't accomplish anything. It just burns people out and drives them away. The effort has to be made by everyone, even outside of the community. If we see stuff like what went down here tonight we can't play the both sides were equally at fault card.

The OP and people who congratulated them actively hurt a group of marginalized posters today, and has likely driven many of them away from this site. They had their concerns dismissed and ignored. This thread should not have been reopened the way it was. Meanwhile trans members were being trolled in a thread that was specifically made to educate people about CDPR's transphobia. You can't expect people to take that and not be frustrated, to not be hurt, to not be human.

I'm starting to believe that they don't understand the actual meaning of a lot of words.

[NegativeCrepe]

let's be real nobody sincerely cares about cyberpunk 2077's transphobia. like, this can't even be a blip on the radar in the lives of anyone. what we are here for is getting that sweet syrupy drama rush.

i've just been posting in there to stir them up and watch it go down in flames

[benjipwns]

I think one thing moving forward is transferring ownership of the OT to someone who is better equipped to handle these sort of issues I feel strongly about this just from the genuine revulsion from trans era and it would be in the sites best interests to move forward with someone who is more willing to listen to trans issues going forward. I'm sure the current OT may have positive trans inclusion, however:

 1. I do not feel that the OT itself should not be OP'ed by these people if these are the responses from them.
 2. I also feel like punishing the correct people in this situation will be an excellent step towards mending the situation such as the opening posts of the thread thanking the op.
 3. perhaps appointing a community ambassador who is actively engaging in these discussions be able to quickly pick up on negative situations like this. I know staff can't be everywhere but I do feel that staff can do better at reacting to these kinds of situations and be able to peacefully resolve them. I get that stuff are human beings and we should respect them especially when it comes to making mistakes.
 4. I also feel like in order to clamp down on this further we need to establish some better forum rules to protect minorities further than what we are seeing now. We should not be at the point where everyone is so angry. I guess right now the best course would be to wait out everyone so better heads can prevail and discussions can commence.

I really do feel like a lot of this can be worked out and I am not really demanding anything with these statements more like suggestions more than anything.
edit: i changed this up a bit to fit a bit better with what I'm feeling. I desperately need something to grasp on to move forward after feeling so low.

MORE STAFF AND MORE RULES

[ShutUp]

Standing behind Black Chamber after he was bullied literally got trans members murdered today. Or something.

[paprikastaude]

3. perhaps appointing a community ambassador who is actively engaging in these discussions be able to quickly pick up on negative situations like this.

an official snitch?

[ShutUp]

"Protect minorities further than what we are seeing now"

Yes, I suggest a simple solution: ban all straight white crackas. Have a message for anyone wanting to sign up that if you are straight and white, your IP has been logged as a Russian Nazi bot and you have already been permabanned.

[benjipwns]

I'm pretty sure they already had a "community ambassador" or some position exactly like it after the first TransSummit. I think Sophia or somebody was it, whoever it was they're now just a "regular" administrator.

[paprikastaude]

I hate to say it. I hate to pull the card of similarities between the fights. But it is true. Minority fights have a lot of intersections, and the parallels do exist. I try not to call on them because I don't want to take away from one fight for another's sake, because things are just as bad for other groups as they are for us. But I do think what you are saying is true.

You're not having fights for social justice, you dumb fucks, you are fulltime whiners on a shitty niche internet forum that no one in the real world cares about

[ShutUp]

I also like how that post is right back to kissing the mods asses after shitting on them all day 

Petulant children who are now trying to be on their best behavior again so mommy and daddy will get them that toy.

[benjipwns]

Last week, in response to the LGBT+ moderation threads, Pirate Bae and Sophia were promoted to admins. If you didn't follow those threads, you would have missed this information because there has been no official communication on it. There is a whole subforum called "Announcements" which bears the subtitle "Resources and staff communication", yet it is all but empty because nothing actually gets communicated by the staff. You'd think changes to the staff, the people who run the place, would be important enough to warrant an official communication. But apparently it's not.

See, I remember things sometimes.

In addition to the staff message posted by Hecht yesterday, I wanted to apologize again for the hurt that recent events have caused our trans community. I know that explanations and excuses always matter less than actions, so I'd like to start by making it clear that we have renewed determination to promote diversity on the staff and restore confidence in the team.

As of today we have appointed two new women Administrators and Mod Captains, Pirate Bae and Sophia -- both are LGBT and the latter is trans. These are amazing individuals who have been on track for promotion for a while, and their voices will now be stronger than ever. We have already committed to direct dialogue with the trans community and are looking forward to those conversations. We will also conduct a review of our policies and procedures to see in which areas they might be falling short and how they can better serve the community.

It's not an end but a beginning, and as always we are working every day to try to build a better site.

Thank you.

On the contrary, my opinion has been asked for more than ever when it comes to trans related issues. I frequently get out of class or go on breaks from my schooling only to find notifications from other staff asking for my opinion on a particular report or issue. The same is true of my fellow LGBTQ and trans staff members. We were pretty much all extensively involved with the creation of the new guidelines. Obviously, we're not perfect. We've made mistakes in the past. But we're open to hearing feedback, and we want to know how we can improve going forward. This topic is very personal to me, given my own life experiences as a trans woman, and I want to make sure we get it right.

[ShutUp]

But...but....Era doesn't give a shit about them and transphobia is running rampant all over the site!

[benjipwns]

It's a terrible website and I would leave my Mod Admiral position in solidarity with the communities leaving in caravans except they pay me $8,000 a month to do it. After taxes!

[Averon]

Remember, all this drama is happening because users on a gaming forum had the audacity to want to talk about a video game in relative peace.

[benjipwns]

Remember, all this drama is happening because users on a gaming forum had the audacity to want to talk about a video game in relative peace.

More than that it's because they wanted to talk about the game at all.

[clothedmacuser]

Feeling kinda bummed out again by how BC has been through all this. He says he's been educated by Kyuuji's efforts, but his conclusion is that CDPR is divisive. He doesn't actually say transphobic. Like, CDPR is just asking questions that maybe people don't like hearing, and that's on them if they're unhappy. I tried asking him, when he said he was educated, if he meant CDPR was transphobic and I think people believed I was an asshole for it.

Do we know what is going to be on that OT? Is BC coordinating with trans people to put a good message on there?

Post #2,913
https://www.resetera.com/threads/cdpr-is-a-transphobic-company-its-time-we-stop-making-excuses-for-them.307474/post-53280109


Good, good.


Demand BC answer more of our questions.  Let him prove to us he isn't a transphobe.  And then we will control the forum.

Top page sexy Vader.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

[close]

Not a great effort but a cute girl.

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cdpr-is-a-transphobic-company-its-time-we-stop-making-excuses-for-them.307474/post-53281042

I should mention I don't think we'll be seeing a staff post till tomorrow morning or later in the day since everyone is asleep right now. So right now I think it's best we just get together and collaborate ideas till then and then submit them to staff when it happens and if they're willing to receive them. I think It will help narrow down and end this nightmare sooner rather than later if we have more facts and ideas to provide.

Have people thrown the idea of making another 1 or 2 prominent members of this thread, mods? I think it could do wonders to have one of you advocating from the inside

I don't think so although I think having more trans mods while nice and fills the gap after some seats got vacated I do feel like we may need to address the more problematic issues. I.e. better moderation methods and public relations as a whole maybe would be a better avenue to go down. That said I like your idea.

Yes, yes, this solved the problems before didn't it. Just do it again!

Been basically lurking the Cyberpunk threads for a long while now due to how hopeless I’ve felt about the situation on gaming side when it comes to trans issues. But the recent events have been exceptional enough that I do feel obligated to join those of you who’ve been strong enough to keep speaking up all this time. To say that this situation is wholly unsurprising would be an understatement. Time and time again, the concerns of trans era have been secondary to the concerns of the gaming populace at large. When only a small percentage of that populace is trans, it’s all too easy for their concerns to be paid nothing more than lip service, which, invariably, is exactly what continues to happen.

That the discourse that occurred in the NCW thread was ever allowed to happen is precisely why a stickied thread and a bottom-of-the-page warning are not enough. Those can be (and too often seem to be) ignored. Era has a pervading problem with its culture, one that from my perspective favors AAA marketing over the needs of its marginalized communities. I recognize the difficulty staff must have in dealing with these issues, and empathize with those staff members that are a part of these communities. But that empathy and understanding are wholly separate from my feelings on the reality of the situation here, a situation that has been allowed to fester for months, maybe years. And the reality is that I feel unsafe and unwelcome here. This is a feeling that has somehow only grown stronger since what happened with Ketkat, and became especially apparent to me when Hogwarts Legacy was properly unveiled. I don’t think this situation is sustainable. It will just happen again and again.

UNSAFE

[paprikastaude]

Feeling kinda bummed out again by how BC has been through all this. He says he's been educated by Kyuuji's efforts, but his conclusion is that CDPR is divisive. He doesn't actually say transphobic. Like, CDPR is just asking questions that maybe people don't like hearing, and that's on them if they're unhappy. I tried asking him, when he said he was educated, if he meant CDPR was transphobic and I think people believed I was an asshole for it.

Do we know what is going to be on that OT? Is BC coordinating with trans people to put a good message on there?

Post #2,913
https://www.resetera.com/threads/cdpr-is-a-transphobic-company-its-time-we-stop-making-excuses-for-them.307474/post-53280109


Good, good.
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Demand BC answer more of our questions.  Let him prove to us he isn't a transphobe.  And then we will control the forum.

Top page sexy Vader.

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[close]

Not a great effort but a cute girl.

get with the times, we need sexy Mandalorian 

[benjipwns]

Frankly, after multiple botched patch jobs, the mod team would just be spitting in the community's face by denying upgrading 1 or 2 of you up to mods.