Playstation 5

[Rufus]

Who cares what it looks like, folks.    It's not like any console has matched perfectly with your room, furniture or anything..  Size?  That's a different story..

Imagine living a life in which you don’t care about aesthetic harmony.

[Pissy F Benny]

Just had a big thought lads

What if they made the ps5 look stupid on purpose so they’d get a shit load of free marketing via memes

[Great Rumbler]

https://twitter.com/Danny8bit/status/1271194045453176833

[Raist]

Really curious about Little Devil Inside. It looks pretty dope.

[Ghoul]

Stray looks awesome though I will give it that.

[Don Rumata]

Really curious about Little Devil Inside. It looks pretty dope.

I backed the KS, what feels like 20+ years ago. 
The game is looking very good tho.

[Great Rumbler]

https://twitter.com/LovePotatoes04/status/1271256981366427655

[bork]

HAWT TAEK: If the PSCinco was all black (or black with subtle grey/blue highlights) there would not be this much uproar. It would still look DUMB, but it's the white that makes it OFFENSIVE.

It helps.


The shape reminds me of a cat sitting down.  Can't unsee it now.

[paprikastaude]

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What is this, a PS5 for ants?

HAWT TAEK: If the PSCinco was all black (or black with subtle grey/blue highlights) there would not be this much uproar. It would still look DUMB, but it's the white that makes it OFFENSIVE.

It helps.
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The shape reminds me of a cat sitting down.  Can't unsee it now.

In horizontal it's a duck's spout.

[paprikastaude]

Silent Hill and RE4 remake leaks were both bogus. I want to believe but nahhhh. "Insiders" seem to be even less reliable these days.

Sony is woke as hell now though, seemed like every game protagonist was female, non-white, or a cartoon. White male gang truly are the most opressed 

RE4 could be real, because Capcom definitely seems to have a real leaking problem. RE7 return to horror and Monster Hunter reboot were called before their announcements, even though no one believed it and the rumours stayed relatively lowkey. And now with RE8 several people called everything from werewolves, VII-lage, to evil Chris killing Ethan's family.

[nudemacusers]

Who cares what it looks like, folks.    It's not like any console has matched perfectly with your room, furniture or anything..  Size?  That's a different story..

Imagine living a life in which you don’t care about aesthetic harmony.

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This is harmonious with my life 

[Rufus]

Who cares what it looks like, folks.    It's not like any console has matched perfectly with your room, furniture or anything..  Size?  That's a different story..

Imagine living a life in which you don’t care about aesthetic harmony.

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This is harmonious with my life 

I don't even want to know how.

[Cerveza mas fina]

[CatsCatsCats]

Controller still looks shit, maybe next gen, guys

[bork]

Insomniac is saying Spider-Man is a standalone game.

https://twitter.com/insomniacgames/status/1271468232881422336

[Ghoul]

Even the dev is unsure what they're doing.

[Raist]

I'm gonna guess it will be a "standalone" DLC-like, cheaper game, and will be also included in Spooderman PS5 complete edition.

HAWT TAEK: If the PSCinco was all black (or black with subtle grey/blue highlights) there would not be this much uproar. It would still look DUMB, but it's the white that makes it OFFENSIVE.

It helps.
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The shape reminds me of a cat sitting down.  Can't unsee it now.

You think that's a coincidence? They showed two Cat Simulator games in the event 

[toku]

[Tasty]

It’s so ugly. I can’t believe it.

It stands out from the PS lineup as much as the PSX does tbh. PS2 -> PS3 (especially Slim) -> PS4 felt like something of a natural evolution. PS1 and PS5 stand out.

[Tasty]

For real, for real... this thing honestly looks like it takes design cues from the fake Nintendo ON.



The swooshes, the glossy plastic "shell" covering a dark gray "core," and seemingly random curvatures... I'm not the only one seeing this right?

This is what a Nintendo fan thought looked cool in 2005

[Joe Molotov]

PS5 doesn't allow you to MAKE GAMES tho.

[Brehvolution]

The UHD drive throws off the balance. The digital only version looks fine.

[Tasty]

PS5 doesn't allow you to MAKE GAMES tho.

DREAMS2

[Raist]

More like Jar of Coke amirite.

[bork]

PS5 doesn't allow you to MAKE GAMES tho.

DREAMS2

Don't even need a PS5- just use Dreams to make all the new releases!

[Tasty]

Don't even need games, just go to sleep

[Joe Molotov]

Don't even need games, just go to sleep

You don't even need sleep, just death. 

[nudemacusers]

Can’t die if you never lived. 

[Don Rumata]

Can’t die if you never lived. 

Can’t die if you never lived.

[bork]

Play-Asia marks up their prices on new consoles, so $600 is a good bet.

https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1271572403190001664

[Don Rumata]

I would genuinely want it to be 699, just for the meltdowns. 

[mormapope]

My urge to buy a Switch has just grown even more



Pls Nintendo, manufacture more non lites, I waited too long and I'm suffering 

[Tasty]

Play-Asia marks up their prices on new consoles, so $600 is a good bet.

https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1271572403190001664

[bork]

[Coax]

Quarantine transformed Kyle Bosman in to Jarvis Cocker, apparently.

It's more sinister

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[Ghoul]

What’s the latest they’ve ever revealed a price? I swear usually they’ve released it by now.

Are they actually just going to wait until a month before launch to say how much it is?

It’s kind of worrying that they’re so hesitant to say it costs this, can’t wait for it to be $700 and people to flip out

[Nintex]

$599 - $699 at launch for a model with a disk drive seems realistic.

The NVme SSD's are still quite expensive.
RDNA2 gpu's aren't even out in the wild yet and ship at the end of this year.
That doesn't even factor in the manufacturing issues caused by the COVID-19 pandemic so they likely won't have a ton of supply either.
And in general demand for consoles is high.

Xbox One and PS4 were quite cheap because Microsoft and Sony picked off the shelf parts.
The PS4 shipped November 2013, a full year after the Radeon 7800 series the GPU was based on shipped, which by then had already seen a price drop.

The Xbox One X shipped at $500, so unless MS sells it as a loss they're not going to hit a price below that at launch.

I'm saying $699 for both and one of them might even go as high as $749 depending on supply.
Microsoft releases most if not all their games cross gen with smart delivery.
Plus they're working on a cheaper revision that sits between X and PS5.

The full line-up will probably look like this:

Xbox One D - $199
Nintendo Switch Lite - $199
PS4 Slim - $249
Nintendo Switch - $299
PS4 Pro - $349
Xbox One X - $399
Xbox Series S - $499
PS5 D - $599
PS5 - $699
Xbox Series X - $749
 
For the holidays or pre-orders they might shave off $50 from the price.
Next year when the dust settles and production has ramped up, they'll probably cut $100 by summer.

There's is no reason for both MS and Sony to launch these machines at a loss.

[who is ted danson?]

I want both the XXX and the PS5 to be silly money purely for the meltdown potential 

[Ghoul]

Sony will deffo make the disc drive version more expensive so they can trick people into going digital...

[Pennywise]

What’s the latest they’ve ever revealed a price? I swear usually they’ve released it by now.

Are they actually just going to wait until a month before launch to say how much it is?

It’s kind of worrying that they’re so hesitant to say it costs this, can’t wait for it to be $700 and people to flip out

PS4 and X1 was during E3. So basically these days, but they both had their reveals earlier. Especially PS4 had that February event. I assume they're gonna wait until August when they've got the other event. Unless MS already announces their price and they'll try to counter it.

And of course they'll try to get people into digital.
No more used games, higher margin and shit.

[thisismyusername]

I want both the XXX and the PS5 to be silly money purely for the meltdown potential 

And pushing people to PC. Way spend $200 less when you get a future proofed hardware for the next console generation.

[mormapope]

$599 - $699 at launch for a model with a disk drive seems realistic.

The NVme SSD's are still quite expensive.
RDNA2 gpu's aren't even out in the wild yet and ship at the end of this year.
That doesn't even factor in the manufacturing issues caused by the COVID-19 pandemic so they likely won't have a ton of supply either.
And in general demand for consoles is high.

Xbox One and PS4 were quite cheap because Microsoft and Sony picked off the shelf parts.
The PS4 shipped November 2013, a full year after the Radeon 7800 series the GPU was based on shipped, which by then had already seen a price drop.

The Xbox One X shipped at $500, so unless MS sells it as a loss they're not going to hit a price below that at launch.

I'm saying $699 for both and one of them might even go as high as $749 depending on supply.
Microsoft releases most if not all their games cross gen with smart delivery.
Plus they're working on a cheaper revision that sits between X and PS5.

The full line-up will probably look like this:

Xbox One D - $199
Nintendo Switch Lite - $199
PS4 Slim - $249
Nintendo Switch - $299
PS4 Pro - $349
Xbox One X - $399
Xbox Series S - $499
PS5 D - $599
PS5 - $699
Xbox Series X - $749
 
For the holidays or pre-orders they might shave off $50 from the price.
Next year when the dust settles and production has ramped up, they'll probably cut $100 by summer.

There's is no reason for both MS and Sony to launch these machines at a loss.

Your analysis isn't too flawed, but this gen was atypical for consoles not being sold at a loss for the first couple or few years of a console's lifecycle. The 360 and PS3, the latter priced at $599, was still sold at a loss.

I don't think Sony has a solid plan for the next few years besides producing their first party games, along with following trends set by competitors or tech in general.

Microsoft is putting a lot of effort into Game Pass being the future of game distribution for consoles. Essentially what Steam is for PC and Netflix is for TV and movies, Game Pass will be for console.

Not to mention, there is no way Microsoft is going to sell 4 different SKUs or try to get that shelf space for retailers. XboxOneX will be discontinued, replaced with Xbox Lockhart, Xbox One S still gets sold,Xbox Series X will be the premium version.

Xbone S: $199
Xbox Lockhart: $299 or $399
Xbox Series X: $499 or $599

There is absolutely no way four or five Xbixs will sit on the same shelf. 

[Don Rumata]

$599 - $699 at launch for a model with a disk drive seems realistic.

The NVme SSD's are still quite expensive.
RDNA2 gpu's aren't even out in the wild yet and ship at the end of this year.
That doesn't even factor in the manufacturing issues caused by the COVID-19 pandemic so they likely won't have a ton of supply either.
And in general demand for consoles is high.

Xbox One and PS4 were quite cheap because Microsoft and Sony picked off the shelf parts.
The PS4 shipped November 2013, a full year after the Radeon 7800 series the GPU was based on shipped, which by then had already seen a price drop.

The Xbox One X shipped at $500, so unless MS sells it as a loss they're not going to hit a price below that at launch.

I'm saying $699 for both and one of them might even go as high as $749 depending on supply.
Microsoft releases most if not all their games cross gen with smart delivery.
Plus they're working on a cheaper revision that sits between X and PS5.

The full line-up will probably look like this:

Xbox One D - $199
Nintendo Switch Lite - $199
PS4 Slim - $249
Nintendo Switch - $299
PS4 Pro - $349
Xbox One X - $399
Xbox Series S - $499
PS5 D - $599
PS5 - $699
Xbox Series X - $749
 
For the holidays or pre-orders they might shave off $50 from the price.
Next year when the dust settles and production has ramped up, they'll probably cut $100 by summer.

There's is no reason for both MS and Sony to launch these machines at a loss.

Hilarious potential aside, spending 699€ to play games that barely look different from what we got, would be real odd.
For all their talk about the biggest generational leap ever, they certainly didn't show it.

The only thing was that forced gimmick in the Ratchet & Clank demo with the shifting worlds, the rest was PS4 games with a bit better fur shading and rock textures.
At the start of every generation you ofc. have the wave of nerds with too much cash buying whatever and whatever price, but for a normal consumer, how are you justifying that pricepoint?

And keep in mind that, contrary to when PS3 came out at 599, now entertainment options are ten-folds.
From playing Fortnite on your phone to watching Netflix on your watch, even PC seems to be bigger than it was.

They keep talking about value, but i'm still not clear where it's at.

[Ghoul]

Well it’s weird as the whole graphic fidelity argument is that games can’t really advance anymore at the moment, it’s super weird though, that’s why Sony are all about the oh look instant load times, despite games like 2k already having a two second load time... once the gen gets into swing I’m sure we’ll see some truly next gen stuff, but as for launch there isn’t any games that fully use the consoles power, well I hope not anyway as from what we’ve seen none have been super impressive at all.

The cost is pretty high for a console especially one where you’re going to be paying the absolute maximum for games if you stupidly choose digital only.

[Don Rumata]

That's the main reason why i'd never go digital only on console.
On PC i can buy my games (digitally) from wherever, but on console i can only do so from Sony's store.

[bork]

That's the main reason why i'd never go digital only on console.
On PC i can buy my games (digitally) from wherever, but on console i can only do so from Sony's store.

You can buy PSN game codes from other sites (or did you mean the same game from different storefronts like Steam and GOG?).  But they don't usually get discounted as much or as quickly as PC games do so it seems like most people just get them directly on their PS4s.

Another minor gripe I have with console storefronts is that it takes longer for games and updates to download from them compared to the PC storefronts.

[mormapope]

Well it’s weird as the whole graphic fidelity argument is that games can’t really advance anymore at the moment, it’s super weird though, that’s why Sony are all about the oh look instant load times, despite games like 2k already having a two second load time... once the gen gets into swing I’m sure we’ll see some truly next gen stuff, but as for launch there isn’t any games that fully use the consoles power, well I hope not anyway as from what we’ve seen none have been super impressive at all.

The cost is pretty high for a console especially one where you’re going to be paying the absolute maximum for games if you stupidly choose digital only.

Tbh though, digital console sales are pretty close to steam sales regarding pricing, on Xbox anyway. Every week there's usually a publisher sale, sales for different seasons, AAA games, indie games, it's comparable to PC regarding that. Steam still has the largest library of games of course.

A point I made about the next gen Xbox, you can buy one at launch, and with a gamepads sub, you're walking away with an instant library of games. Every first party launch title included.

Regardless of pricing, digital vs. physical for distribution and how people get their games is around 40% or 50%. And that's taking into account AAA games sold at retailers, not digital only games (all indie or free to play games).

Physical games will never die out completely, but we're moving away from that being the norm.

[Don Rumata]

That's the main reason why i'd never go digital only on console.
On PC i can buy my games (digitally) from wherever, but on console i can only do so from Sony's store.

You can buy PSN game codes from other sites (or did you mean the same game from different storefronts like Steam and GOG?).  But they don't usually get discounted as much or as quickly as PC games do so it seems like most people just get them directly on their PS4s.

Another minor gripe I have with console storefronts is that it takes longer for games and updates to download from them compared to the PC storefronts.

No, PSN codes count i suppose, but as you say there's very little price variation, and less avenues.
Decent prices all seem to be from "accounts" rather than game codes, whenever i look.

So getting rid of the game used is still the best option to save money on new games, on consoles.

[Raist]

https://twitter.com/RedMakuzawa/status/1271773319394557952

[CatsCatsCats]

I want both the XXX and the PS5 to be silly money purely for the meltdown potential 

At least with X you can get on that ultimate plus plan like it’s a phone lol

[Cerveza mas fina]

Ive rewatched some of the vids in hd now (not the crappy stream) and ratchet and horizon do look better then current gen.

[Cerveza mas fina]

https://twitter.com/RedMakuzawa/status/1271773319394557952

Sony has a history of making standalone dlc that you can buy as a taster. They often include those first on psn plus so people like it and buy the full game.

[bork]

https://twitter.com/RedMakuzawa/status/1271773319394557952

Brings up a good point-  Can we get a source on all this Playstation 5 reveal information? 

[bork]

Sony has a history of making standalone dlc that you can buy as a taster. They often include those first on psn plus so people like it and buy the full game.

Doubting this will be budget priced like Infamous: First Light and will be priced more like Uncharted Lost Legacy or a full $60, though.

[Raist]

 


https://twitter.com/Nimorp/status/1271204066417401856

[Raist]

I mean yeah, but then again what does that mean. You've got full games that range anything between <10 and >50h of gameplay.

They're kind of dancing around it, but given the "subtitle" bit I'm guessing this is probably shorter than the previous one, and priced at 30 or 40 buckaroos, that doesn't require the OG game.

And they'll have the "complete PS5 edition" including both at $60.

[Pissy F Benny]

https://twitter.com/Nimorp/status/1271204066417401856

Not being slick black disrespects the legacy of chad daddy tho

[Human Snorenado]

I dunno, is there any credibility to the previous rumor the PSCinco's cost was roughly $450? (honestly considering everything that's in it, I'm not sure, although maybe they got money back from some out of business router company for taking dead inventory off their hands for the shell of the units)

I could see a reality where the Cinco disc version comes in at $500, the digital version at $400, and the series X is already rumored to be $600 right?

WHO CAN SAY BUT SPECULATION IS FUN

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Both regular, non-nerfed consoles will be $600

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[HardcoreRetro]

Every time I think about the GTA 5 opener I start laughing. Great show.

[Pennywise]

I dunno, is there any credibility to the previous rumor the PSCinco's cost was roughly $450? (honestly considering everything that's in it, I'm not sure, although maybe they got money back from some out of business router company for taking dead inventory off their hands for the shell of the units)

I could see a reality where the Cinco disc version comes in at $500, the digital version at $400, and the series X is already rumored to be $600 right?

WHO CAN SAY BUT SPECULATION IS FUN

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Both regular, non-nerfed consoles will be $600

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BOM cost of the xbox was a bit higher than PS5. It just depends on what they're going to do both.
Eating cost or living with a small profit margin.

They're surely gonna eat more cost for the digital version. After all that one bring in more cash in the long run.