US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[Mandark]

you kept bringing up harvard when you were pretending to give a shit about jordan peterson

[benjipwns]

I couldn’t tell you a thing Cruz did between going to Harvard and being a senator, either.

Cruz did cause a government shutdown while failing to repeal the ACA (while Obama was in office!), so there's that.

god u liebertards can be so uninformed about Great Moments In Conservative History:

[benjipwns]

  at the dude yelling out "read to us!"

[benjipwns]

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/19/tulsi-gabbard-2020-presidential-bid-917418

Democratic Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii is considering running for president in 2020, a source with direct knowledge of her deliberations told POLITICO.

Rania Batrice, an adviser to the progressive congresswoman and deputy campaign manager on Bernie Sanders’ 2016 presidential campaign, has been putting out feelers for digital and speechwriting staff for Gabbard. One person approached about the positions say that 2020 wasn’t mentioned explicitly, but it was heavily implied.

She recently visited Iowa, where locals urged her to run for president, according to the Iowa City Press-Citizen. She keynoted a progressive gathering in New Hampshire in September. And she’s writing a book due out this spring titled, “Is Today the Day?: Not Another Political Memoir.”

WE'RE SAVED!

[BIONIC]

The only good thing to come out of the Palin BIIIIAAAAATTTCCCHHH is her porn parody 

[Nintex]

wow if true, robert francis o'rourke's 2020 bid is doomed

All bois are voting Ted. All girls are voting for 'muh feelings' and Beto.
Most of them probably won't show up at the polls anyway. 

[Great Rumbler]

I couldn’t tell you a thing Cruz did between going to Harvard and being a senator, either.

Cruz did cause a government shutdown while failing to repeal the ACA (while Obama was in office!), so there's that.

god u liebertards can be so uninformed about Great Moments In Conservative History:

I still find this incident incredibly amusing.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1053488675454181376

 

[Kara]

Ted Cruz was a clerk, a lawyer and then a lawyer for the State of Texas. He's never had an honest job a day of his life, so pretty much anyone who bleats about the dignity of work and the evils of public assistance.

[agrajag]

https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1053488675454181376

 

when you put a woman behind the camera

[Nintex]

All Republicans rn

[Himu]

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/oct/18/texas-democrats-ask-noncitizens-register-vote/?fbclid=IwAR3QbdjpOr5Hknvt6UKJjOiBxBFn5gWv7XH0jPkgM_WRnr1Uh_esxeU9z4k

Fact check.

I quickly glanced through it clicking the sources and all of them use their own site as a source. Vewwwwy weputable huhuhuhu.

[Himu]

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1053285828892463109

Just like how Catholics capitalize Church. If it’s capitalized you can’t ever criticize it.

[Mandark]

https://washingtontimes.com/news/2018/oct/18/texas-democrats-ask-noncitizens-register-vote

This reads like a template for this kind of story: take a case of out-of-date records and then build a narrative about a conspiracy to steal elections using mass fraud and undocumented immigrants. Maybe this case will turn up enough willful sloppiness that warrants some level of punishment, but it's not going to be the story that goes viral in conservative circles.

Really, in-person vote fraud is horribly inefficient, and recruiting non-citizens would be the worst way to do it. That's the demographic who has the most to lose by running afoul of some administrative law.

[Nintex]

“It looks like a case of really bad information they are using to send out these mailers,” Mr. Taylor said.

In the interview, Trump defended Kushner as doing a “very good job” but acknowledged that he and the crown prince, both in their 30s, are relatively young for the amount of power they wield.

“They’re two young guys. Jared doesn’t know him well or anything. They are just two young people. They are the same age. They like each other I believe,” Trump said.

MbS and Jared Kushner are just two silly bois hanging out with unlimited executive powers no biggie.

[Mandark]

Trump Administration Eyes Defining Transgender Out of Existence

welp

[Kara]

They've been quietly doing things impeding passport renewal / invalidating passports for people who are trans for awhile, guess that makes it easier.

[Aran]

Trump Administration Eyes Defining Transgender Out of Existence

welp

About fucking time.

[Broseidon]

At least put some effort into these posts

[Himu]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/white-house-privately-doubts-saudi-account-of-journalists-death/2018/10/20/4c459c07-eceb-4600-91ea-95228128e7ec_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.4cf550886f4a&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

what

[Himu]

Trump Administration Eyes Defining Transgender Out of Existence

welp

“We aren’t bigots!”

[CatsCatsCats]

Whoa pay a dollar to read that article? What happened to the free press?!

[Himu]

A series of decisions by the Obama administration loosened the legal concept of gender in federal programs, including in education and health care, recognizing gender largely as an individual’s choice and not determined by the sex assigned at birth.

Love the support but...it’s not a choice. To posit that it’s a choice is...ugh...problematic.

The department argued in its memo that key government agencies needed to adopt an explicit and uniform definition of gender as determined “on a biological basis that is clear, grounded in science, objective and administrable.” The agency’s proposed definition would define sex as either male or female, unchangeable, and determined by the genitals that a person is born with, according to a draft reviewed by The Times.

What if you’re intersex or have a deformity?

Any dispute about one’s sex would have to be clarified using genetic testing.

DNA testing. Right.

[brawndolicious]

A series of decisions by the Obama administration loosened the legal concept of gender in federal programs, including in education and health care, recognizing gender largely as an individual’s choice and not determined by the sex assigned at birth.

Love the support but...it’s not a choice. To posit that it’s a choice is...ugh...problematic.

I could see the argument for making the standard that lax so that it includes people who flee to the US from countries that have laws against doctors/psychiatrists giving a diagnosis. Or giving the text of the law that much leeway might give it more breathing room when challenged in court.

Either way, it makes it easier for a conservative president to undo it. You can blame Obama for thinking most people (even politicians) are capable of changing their minds on social issues.

[Assimilate]

Trump Administration Eyes Defining Transgender Out of Existence

welp

“We aren’t bigots!”

Let's fuck up everything for .0001 of the population

Yeah, no. Thank god Trump is stepping in on this mess.

Those with ambiguous cases should be treated on an individual by individual basis. Not change the whole broad scope of everything for fuck sakes. Seriously, like you said previously, shit like this is making people hate the trans community.

[Himu]

Trump Administration Eyes Defining Transgender Out of Existence

welp

“We aren’t bigots!”

Let's fuck up everything for .0001 of the population

Yeah, no. Thank god Trump is stepping in on this mess.

Those with ambiguous cases should be treated on an individual by individual basis. Not change the whole broad scope of everything for fuck sakes. Seriously, like you said previously, shit like this is making people hate the trans community.

I’m not sure how recognizing trans people exist fucks everything? Also do not put my words in my mouth. You are too stupid to understand context it seems.

I notice many of your ilk often use utilitarian means of argumentation. Utilitarianism is the most disgusting philosophy that is seen with validity.

Please back up the following claim with evidence:

Let's fuck up everything for .0001 of the population

How does recognizing trans people fuck up everything exactly?

[Assimilate]

Trump Administration Eyes Defining Transgender Out of Existence

welp

“We aren’t bigots!”

Let's fuck up everything for .0001 of the population

Yeah, no. Thank god Trump is stepping in on this mess.

Those with ambiguous cases should be treated on an individual by individual basis. Not change the whole broad scope of everything for fuck sakes. Seriously, like you said previously, shit like this is making people hate the trans community.

I’m not sure how recognizing trans people exist fucks everything? Also do not put my words in my mouth. You are too stupid to understand context it seems.

I notice many of your ilk often use utilitarian means of argumentation. Utilitarianism is the most disgusting philosophy that is seen with validity.

Please back up the following claim with evidence:

Let's fuck up everything for .0001 of the population

How does recognizing trans people fuck up everything exactly?

I understand perfectly fine the context in which you were talking about people turning on the trans community. Not sure how you do not see it applying to this in a broader sense? No one is going to look up these laws, no one is going to be well versed in this shit. They're going to continue to see people bending backwards (both media/government) to not offend a very small percentage of the population and they're going to start to hate you for it.

Reports of people putting "female" on their records and a doctor walks in and finds a biological male there with a penis.... come on. Like COME THE FUCK ON. That has to stop.

[Himu]

You’re a very dumb person, a troll, or both.

[HardcoreRetro]

*imagines a biological female with a penis in there instead*

 

[agrajag]

*imagines a biological female with a penis in there instead*

 

Science will find a way to give Buck Angel a penis some day.

[Nintex]

Trump Administration Eyes Defining Transgender Out of Existence

welp

“We aren’t bigots!”

Let's fuck up everything for .0001 of the population

Yeah, no. Thank god Trump is stepping in on this mess.

Those with ambiguous cases should be treated on an individual by individual basis. Not change the whole broad scope of everything for fuck sakes. Seriously, like you said previously, shit like this is making people hate the trans community.

I’m not sure how recognizing trans people exist fucks everything? Also do not put my words in my mouth. You are too stupid to understand context it seems.

I notice many of your ilk often use utilitarian means of argumentation. Utilitarianism is the most disgusting philosophy that is seen with validity.

Please back up the following claim with evidence:

Let's fuck up everything for .0001 of the population

Reports of people putting "female" on their records and a doctor walks in and finds a biological male there with a penis.... come on. Like COME THE FUCK ON. That has to stop.

Yeah, doctor is like ready to fuck and then blue balls smh

[Great Rumbler]

At least put some effort into these posts

lol get triggered college intellectual cuck

[CatsCatsCats]

word filters

[Great Rumbler]

Ya, I made both of those word filters, breh.

[Assimilate]

You’re a very dumb person, a troll, or both.

because I don't think biology should be bent to fit the agenda of .001 percent of the fucking population that feels they aren't "recognized"

oh please 

[Nintex]

You know, I could see why some deeply conservative values President might do this.

But Trump and his Arkham inmates seem to be rolling out plans like these in petty revenge. 

[Rufus]

What are you even on about? Biology was changed about as much as physics is changed by speed bumps.

[Himu]

How has biology been bent exactly? Are you being forced to pop E pills? If it’s .001% of the population why does it bother you? The likelihood of you meeting a trans person is therefore slim. You’re intimidated by .001% of Americans. Let that sink in. You sound like a bitch. Trans people got you triggered? But we’re .001% of the population, surely you can deal? Or are you that weak? I thought the left were supposed to be the snowflakes? Yet you can’t handle such a small number of people you don’t interact with in your day to day.

Always love how transphobes are all suddenly scientists.

[jorma]

You’re a very dumb person, a troll, or both.

because I don't think biology should be bent to fit the agenda of .001 percent of the fucking population that feels they aren't "recognized"

oh please 

just put "male" down at the doctors office and the doctor won't be as surprised when you whip out your penis in front of her

[Aran]

I wish Reagan didn't close the asylums, we'd have the perfect place for all these special types

[Assimilate]

You’re a very dumb person, a troll, or both.

because I don't think biology should be bent to fit the agenda of .001 percent of the fucking population that feels they aren't "recognized"

oh please 

just put "male" down at the doctors office and the doctor won't be as surprised when you whip out your penis in front of her

nah she'll still be surprised.......


by how big it is 

[Nintex]

I wish Reagan didn't close the asylums, we'd have the perfect place for all these special types

"Nancy can't send me to an asylum if there aren't any"
 

Smart man

[Kara]

40+ percent of eligible voters don't vote. Instead of exploring this we should deny some people civil rights because not doing so offends a minority of a minority. Sometimes you just have to make grown up decisions.

[Aran]

40+ percent of eligible voters don't vote. Instead of exploring this we should deny some people civil rights because not doing so offends a minority of a minority. Sometimes you just have to make grown up decisions.

Deciding you're actually a triple decepticon helicopter is not a civil right

[Himu]

40+ percent of eligible voters don't vote. Instead of exploring this we should deny some people civil rights because not doing so offends a minority of a minority. Sometimes you just have to make grown up decisions.

Deciding you're actually a triple decepticon helicopter is not a civil right

And here’s why you never use the word choice much less “identity” in relation to trans people. It can be used against you. Take note.

You’re absolutely right. Because no one decides to be a helicopter. However, trans people do exist as a group. And also are discriminated against in the workplace and elsewhere. All groups of people are liable to protection. Do you think trans people are mentally ill? Well, even mentally ill people are liable to civil rights and protections from abuse. Would that be correct?

Don’t even bother to answer. The question was rhetorical.

Because we all know what this is about and it’s just your own bigotry.

[Kara]

A triple helicopter Decepticon sounds rad af but is it like the union of several units (à la Devastator) or just something resembling an Osprey but it doesn't crash because the Transformers universe doesn't have an epic fail arms industry in it. Inquiring minds want to know.

[Assimilate]

Because we all know what this is about and it’s just your own bigotry.

Can you shut up about bigotry, fuck.  Just because people do not agree with you does it make them bigots.

The trans situation is a tricky one because a lot of the times these trans individuals retain what made them the sex they say they are not. For example you're still a die hard fighting games fan... how many fucking females are into that shit? NOT MANY.

It brings a lot of stuff into question. How female are you really? Ya know? You post on the bore for christ sakes. I'm not saying that to put you down, or question your 'existence' but I'm still iffy on this subject despite still supporting your rights.

I have a problem with this movement when it tries to encroach on the population as a whole. For example - do I think young kids in elementary school should not have boy/girl definitions ? Taught that nonbinary is actually a thing??? To me that is problematic. It is a social experiment we do not know where it will lead and frankly one I don't think is worth having just for the sake of .0000011 of the goddamn population.

I think I have seen/ or ran into a trans person a handful of times in my life. Why should this stuff be taught to children? Just in case they DO happen to run into such an individual?? Like, huh?

[CatsCatsCats]

Yeah I think you’re just having a hard time separating your expectations of genders for actual gender, Assy

[agrajag]

Valkyrie, you heard the man. Get the fuck out!

 

[Himu]

Can you shut up about bigotry, fuck.  Just because people do not agree with you does it make them bigots.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/21/us/politics/transgender-trump-administration-sex-definition.html

‘Transgender’ Could Be Defined Out of Existence Under Trump Administration

 

The trans situation is a tricky one because a lot of the times these trans individuals retain what made them the sex they say they are not. For example you're still a die hard fighting games fan... how many fucking females are into that shit? NOT MANY.

>”trans people stereotype gender to specific actions. Just because you like makeup doesn’t make you a woman.”
>”you are a diehard fighting game fan. How womanly is that?”








 



Your rhetoric is so arbitrary it is not only laughable it is inherently self defeating.

Oh no we must stop the trans people from playing fighting games

[Mandark]

The trans situation is a tricky one because a lot of the times these trans individuals retain what made them the sex they say they are not. For example you're still a die hard fighting games fan... how many fucking females are into that shit? NOT MANY.

It brings a lot of stuff into question. How female are you really? Ya know? You post on the bore for christ sakes.

Huh. Didn't expect Assimilate, of all people, to argue that gender is mainly performative.

[Assimilate]

Here is the point you miss CIndi-

most all of them retain those qualities.

You have perverse Hollywood and the media to blame for your woes. If the movement was kept civil, quiet, without the necessary holala that goes a long with giving Bruce Jenner a standing ovation and woman of the year award because she/he decided to put on a dress.......

these things create backlash.

[Himu]

What



“Most retain those qualities”

How many trans people do you know? How do you know this? Or is it just an assumption? I like fighting games but I am also a big Sims and Animal Crossing.

I made these.






AM I AN REAL WOMYN NOW, Assy?

[Kara]

Boys have a custom Hori stick, girls have Libraries of Alexandria full of otome games.

[Mupepe]

Just when I thought this thread couldn’t get any worse.

[Himu]

Let’s be real. The separation between gender is entirely dependent on if you fart or not. Real girls don’t fart.

[Mandark]

Boys use social media for yelling about sports teams, girls post memes that misattribute quotes about "fake friends" to Marilyn Monroe.

[Tripon]

Here is the point you miss CIndi-

most all of them retain those qualities.

You have perverse Hollywood and the media to blame for your woes. If the movement was kept civil, quiet, without the necessary holala that goes a long with giving Bruce Jenner a standing ovation and woman of the year award because she/he decided to put on a dress.......

these things create backlash.

This is a please protest quietly argument. And then people do with kneeling during the anthem and people still get mad.

[Himu]

Boys go to Brazil and get into drunken bar fights with the locals, girls dump them

[Mandark]

Men open liberty and crossbow rush their neighbors, women play 4-city tradition for a long-term tech advantage.