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« Reply #300 on: June 07, 2019, 08:39:26 AM »
I think no exclusive just shows google is not really all that serious about this.

Look how much heat Xbox gets for for having lackluster exclusives. Now imagine if for Xbox two they said “we decided we just don’t want to do exclusives at all”? They’d rightly get destroyed for that.

Biggest thing with Google Stadia is that it doesn’t seem to have any particular reason to exist. It’s not clear what need it fills that’s not better filled by the existing consoles.

I can sort of see how there might be a market for low-friction gaming.... like the “i saw a commercial for Red Dead 2, and I don’t really play video games but like westerns and ‘oh I can just click on this YouTube link and play it’”  it But that reality doesn’t exist yet, and it’s not really clear that it ever will. It sort of sounds like the google controller will remain mandatory even after the free version comes out.

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« Reply #301 on: June 07, 2019, 08:44:33 AM »
at their first reveal i believe they said it'll work with PS4 and X1 controllers. if that's the case, then this thing has a much better chance of becoming a big deal. just being able to plug into a laptop or pair a bluetooth controller to play a game vs a $500 box to play the same games is gonna be appealing to a pretty large audience.

assuming the tech works of course

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« Reply #302 on: June 07, 2019, 09:46:17 AM »

up against $500 all new boxes from Sony and MS, with the same third party support, and there's no reason to expect stadia games are going to look or perform any worse than those new boxes do

A local box will always out perform a virtual one.

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« Reply #303 on: June 07, 2019, 10:26:55 AM »

up against $500 all new boxes from Sony and MS, with the same third party support, and there's no reason to expect stadia games are going to look or perform any worse than those new boxes do

A local box will always out perform a virtual one.

you need to define your terms about 'performance', because any random summer blockbuster I can stream looks better than anything any gaming rig I can ever dream of owning can perform in realtime.

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« Reply #304 on: June 07, 2019, 11:30:52 AM »
Streaming a game will add latency and additional input lag that you don't get with a local box. It's an exciting prospect and should work great for some games. I'm still skeptical of performance in games where timing is key like in some sports games and multiplayer shooters.
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« Reply #305 on: June 07, 2019, 01:01:43 PM »
at their first reveal i believe they said it'll work with PS4 and X1 controllers. if that's the case, then this thing has a much better chance of becoming a big deal. just being able to plug into a laptop or pair a bluetooth controller to play a game vs a $500 box to play the same games is gonna be appealing to a pretty large audience.

assuming the tech works of course

What’s the overlap of people that have PS4 and x1 controllers lying around but don’t game on PC, Xbox, or Playstation already?

Certainly there is some market there, but the experience better be awesome.

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« Reply #306 on: June 07, 2019, 01:07:03 PM »
It's more what will those people get next-gen or after imo. If MS and Sony charge whatever they charge ($500 + 2nd controller + online sub) and Google says "You can play those games with the shit you already have" it'll probably tempt some people, especially if there's cross-save/cross-play and they can still play with their friends.

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« Reply #307 on: June 07, 2019, 01:23:26 PM »
It's weird being the "Google guy" of the forum and seeing basically everyone else get more fired up about it than you are :doge

For me I'm just waiting and (anticipating) seeing.

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« Reply #308 on: June 07, 2019, 01:26:03 PM »
It's more what will those people get next-gen or after imo. If MS and Sony charge whatever they charge ($500 + 2nd controller + online sub) and Google says "You can play those games with the shit you already have" it'll probably tempt some people, especially if there's cross-save/cross-play and they can still play with their friends.

Exactly, and I can't help but feel there's a decent chunk of people who've felt burnt on how this gen panned out with its mandatory online fees, mandatory downloads of huge amounts of data prior to playing a game even if you own the disk, and 'mid-gen upgrade' shenanigans.

As predominantly a PC gamer, Stadias existence is nothing but upside; at worst I get a reference level hardware spec thats guaranteed to hit 4k 60fps come my next upgrade cycle, because thats the hardware studios target for the stadia builds.

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« Reply #309 on: June 07, 2019, 03:56:47 PM »
I’m open minded about it. Like I’m sure I’ll check it out to see how it works if I can just do it from my pc... I’m just not expecting too too much.

Unless google really cares about this and really tries to compete it will be a hard sell.

Sony and MS will come out guns blazing to at least timed-exclusive the best games off of stadia and for various reasons it’s probably more expensive to maintain than Steam so they might not have as much pricing flexibility.


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« Reply #310 on: June 07, 2019, 04:11:21 PM »
It's weird being the "Google guy" of the forum and seeing basically everyone else get more fired up about it than you are :doge

For me I'm just waiting and (anticipating) seeing.
Personally I'm just fed up with MS/Sony consoles after this gen, that's the main reason I'd like this to be good and take off.

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« Reply #311 on: June 07, 2019, 04:30:33 PM »
I don't want this to succeed, but I'm starting to have doubts that it'll faceplant. :goty2

Yeah, not too happy about the idea that the future of games is a combination of the worst of console gaming [closed ecosystem, no modding] with the worst of digital gaming [you don't actually own the game and it can go away at any time].

I bet you still buy CD's too grandpa.
I still buy casettes  8)
No joke.

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« Reply #312 on: June 07, 2019, 07:57:49 PM »
"Clearly Unfinished": Google's Gaming Platform Faces Uphill Battle in Marketplace
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/googles-stadia-platform-faces-uphill-battle-marketplace-1216320
 :doge
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« Reply #313 on: June 07, 2019, 10:25:27 PM »
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« Reply #315 on: June 13, 2019, 11:42:39 AM »
https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/13/google-stadia-vs-microsoft-project-xcloud-battle-streaming-services-9932338/

Here’s another impression of both that and cloud. Sounds like the stadia version of doom is not exactly the same as the pc or console versions but some kind of port.

From the impressions the tech seemed to mostly work, but graphics were noticeably worse and limited to 1080P and game was very buggy with missing AI and geometry issues.

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« Reply #316 on: June 13, 2019, 11:47:53 AM »
Stadia is its own platform, running on Linux and OpenGL. So yeah almost definitely some kind of dedicated port.

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« Reply #317 on: June 13, 2019, 11:53:53 AM »
From the impressions the tech seemed to mostly work, but graphics were noticeably worse and limited to 1080P and game was very buggy with missing AI and geometry issues.

neither of those are things that it being streaming rather than locally processed would be responsible for, so I'd have to assume the stadia port just isn't as ready as the console ports are yet

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« Reply #318 on: June 13, 2019, 11:55:20 AM »
Stadia is its own platform, running on Linux and OpenGL. So yeah almost definitely some kind of dedicated port.

It's Vulkan not OpenGL;  I imagine if it was OpenGL ports would be easier.

Oh ya. Still Kronos group stuff.

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« Reply #319 on: June 13, 2019, 12:30:17 PM »
Any "hands-on" reports done for something like Stadia in the context of an environment like E3 is: :lol

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« Reply #320 on: June 13, 2019, 01:14:59 PM »
from that arse piece:
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Google invited me out to its downtown LA YouTube Gaming creator's space—away from the Internet-congested E3 show floor—to try out the latest build of Stadia. My demo was running locally on a Pixelbook with the Chrome browser, connected to a TV via HDMI, and remotely to data centers more than 300 miles away in San Francisco. The Pixelbook had a wired Internet connection that I was told was running at "about 25 Mbps" (Google wouldn't let me run a speed test to confirm the connection quality).

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« Reply #321 on: June 13, 2019, 02:18:25 PM »
A bit suspicious

You reckon??!?!? :ohhh

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« Reply #322 on: July 09, 2019, 02:11:58 AM »
A bit suspicious they didn't let him run a speed test and only mentioned Mbps.    And of course they wired the connection lol.

Suspicious, sure, but them ensuring reliable connection at this point isn't unreasonable, and it very quickly could have become the main talking point of the demonstration.

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« Reply #323 on: July 09, 2019, 11:21:16 AM »
Some new deets:

- Local co-op of up to four players is supported
- The Stadia controller supports USB HID so can be used as a USB controller for anything that supports it
- They explicitly recognize that while games may be "delisted," a "purchase" is for the life of the Stadia service in general, "barring unforeseen circumstances"
- VR support is TBD

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« Reply #324 on: July 09, 2019, 11:22:35 AM »
If I can't get The Evil Within 1 + 2 and GhostWire Tokyo on Switch, I'm going to pray for Stadia ports instead. 🙏🏻

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« Reply #325 on: July 09, 2019, 05:02:45 PM »
Stadia is its own platform, running on Linux and OpenGL. So yeah almost definitely some kind of dedicated port.

It's Vulkan not OpenGL;  I imagine if it was OpenGL ports would be easier.

OpenGL is damn near depreciated. Everything going Vulkan for Stadia means non-Streaming Linux gaming is fucking possible finally.

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« Reply #326 on: July 10, 2019, 02:04:33 AM »
Linux gaming has been great for a while now  :trumps

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« Reply #327 on: July 10, 2019, 09:45:52 AM »
Linux gaming has been great for a while now  :trumps

Facts. I remember having a pretty pleasant experience back in 2012.

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« Reply #328 on: July 19, 2019, 11:34:06 AM »


Both tiers seem decent. :idont

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« Reply #329 on: July 19, 2019, 01:37:06 PM »
destiny 2 is not the game to give away. Isn’t it going free to play like two months before this launches?

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« Reply #330 on: July 19, 2019, 02:19:32 PM »
yeah i think the base game will be free. they are giving the base game + expansions, so that's something i guess.

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« Reply #331 on: July 19, 2019, 03:10:40 PM »
This is what we need. Use 1TB of data streaming Fez.

I weep for the people who have monthly data caps.
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« Reply #332 on: July 20, 2019, 06:01:04 AM »
Both tiers seem decent. :idont

The value proposition they are offering seems so obvious and easy to explain - even just by comparison to how you can buy a movie online and only stream it or buy a bluray player and a disk and 'own' it - that the way some media outlets are still talking about 'netflix of games' and 'you cant even buy games unless you subscribe, and you lose your whole library if it lapses!' makes you wonder if they're actively trying to kill it with capital-g-gamers pre-launch because playing a game within seconds of watching a YT review is a pretty fucking terminal scenario for some of the games press.

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« Reply #333 on: July 21, 2019, 06:33:48 PM »
i would def get this for the lounge if i was an american in an area that supported this  :doge
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« Reply #334 on: July 22, 2019, 08:30:40 AM »
Linux gaming has been great for a while now  :trumps

Numerous Anti-cheat says "lol."

When I can play Battlefield 3-4 on Linux without bending over backwards to do it, that's when Linux gaming will be "great."

Is it better than the dumpster fire it was in the 90-00's? Sure, but being able to play 20+ year old titles on a niche OS isn't suddenly better.

When a AAA title day-and-dates on Linux, we can say things are "great."

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« Reply #336 on: August 19, 2019, 12:44:14 PM »
Stadia Directo starting in ~15min


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« Reply #337 on: August 19, 2019, 12:56:40 PM »
setting expectations to underwhelmed, captain

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« Reply #338 on: August 19, 2019, 01:00:42 PM »


Starting now.

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« Reply #339 on: August 19, 2019, 01:31:34 PM »


Will probably be the best-looking version.

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« Reply #340 on: August 19, 2019, 01:33:30 PM »
this seems kinda bunk, i figured it'd be more than just a bunch of old trailers

e: new watch dogz trailer at least

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« Reply #341 on: August 19, 2019, 01:38:13 PM »
that was it?

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« Reply #342 on: August 19, 2019, 01:39:09 PM »
It was pretty on-the-nose for "What if a nintendo direct, but for Pc games?"

Pretty solid lineup of developer support though

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« Reply #343 on: August 19, 2019, 01:40:02 PM »
New games announced today:



Full announced library to-date:

DRAGON BALL XENOVERSE 2
DOOM Eternal
Wolfenstein: Youngblood
Destiny 2
Power Rangers: Battle For The Grid
Baldur's Gate III: The Black Hound
Metro Exodus
Thumper
GRID
SAMURAI SHODOWN
Football Manager 2020
Get Packed [Stadia exclusive]
The Elder Scrolls Online
The Crew 2
The Division 2
Assassin's Creed Odyssey
Ghost Recon Breakpoint
Trials Rising
NBA 2K
Borderlands 3
Farming Simulator 19
Mortal Kombat 11
Rage 2
FINAL FANTASY XV
Gylt
Tomb Raider Trilogy
Darksiders Genesis
Just Dance 2020
Watch Dogs Legion
Marvel's Avengers
Cyberpunk 2077
Kine
Orcs Must Die! 3
Windjammers 2
Destroy All Humans (Remastered)
Superhot
Attack on Titan 2: Final Battle

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« Reply #344 on: August 19, 2019, 01:41:21 PM »
i like that their big exclusive is orcs must die 3

that's a fun series tho, i'll play it on phone or chromecast i guess

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« Reply #345 on: August 19, 2019, 01:43:00 PM »
I’m surprised a third one is being made.

I thought the second one was a flop.

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« Reply #346 on: August 19, 2019, 01:45:02 PM »
second one did okay iirc but then they released some weird f2p moba OMD that flopped mega hard and they had to lay the people working on it off.

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« Reply #347 on: August 19, 2019, 01:47:29 PM »
Am curious how much oomph they're gonna put into Cyberpunk.  If it's a huge leap over base PS4 graphic-wise, I may decide to give it a try on there.

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« Reply #348 on: August 19, 2019, 01:50:52 PM »
i like that their big exclusive is orcs must die 3

that's a fun series tho, i'll play it on phone or chromecast i guess

Their big exclusive as I noted is clearly "Get Packed." :bolo

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« Reply #349 on: August 19, 2019, 01:52:28 PM »
Orcs must die 3.......

Well I guess the dozens and dozens of people who play that are excited today!

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« Reply #350 on: August 19, 2019, 01:53:58 PM »
Their big exclusive as I noted is clearly "Get Packed." :bolo

:badass

have they said yet how you are supposed to play without a stadia controller? that game does look like fun but i'm not buying four controllers when i have plenty of xbone controllers laying around

does chromecast have a bluetooth connection ability?

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« Reply #351 on: August 19, 2019, 02:01:15 PM »
Their big exclusive as I noted is clearly "Get Packed." :bolo

:badass

have they said yet how you are supposed to play without a stadia controller? that game does look like fun but i'm not buying four controllers when i have plenty of xbone controllers laying around

does chromecast have a bluetooth connection ability?

Do I need to use your Controller? (Stadia Controller)
No, you can use many popular HID compliant controllers when playing via USB cable on Chrome or mobile. To play on your TV you will need to use the Stadia Controller and Google Chromecast Ultra.

but I dunno if thats just the launch restriction; regular chomecasts support bluetooth controllers, so it kind of seems likely when they do the freeloader rollout they can patch that

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« Reply #352 on: August 19, 2019, 02:04:08 PM »
does chromecast have a bluetooth connection ability?

The third-generation model (2018) passed the FCC rated for Bluetooth capability, but it's currently not in use, and Google recommends the Bluetooth-less Chromecast Ultra for Stadia in any case.

You won't be able to play on a TV with a non-Stadia controller. The Stadia controller has a Wi-Fi chip and communicates directly with the game servers, so there's no extra hoops or hubs to jump through and latency is as low as possible.

However, you can use almost any third-party controller when playing through desktop Chrome or Chrome OS, or use any Bluetooth controller when playing on an Android device. However, as said, the Stadia controller includes dedicated hardware and talks directly to the Stadia backend, so it'll always be a superior experience to using a third-party controller.

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« Reply #353 on: August 19, 2019, 02:06:47 PM »
That said, if/when Stadia launches for Android TV specifically, it'll support all the controllers the Android version of Stadia supports, which will be pretty much everything.

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« Reply #354 on: August 19, 2019, 02:07:09 PM »
hm okay. my pc and laptop both have bluetooth so that'll work. :gamer

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« Reply #356 on: August 19, 2019, 02:15:19 PM »
https://web.archive.org/web/20190403231941/https://gamerant.com/cyberpunk-2077-google-stadia/



CD Projekt Red went from being "in talks" with Google in April to full-out producing dev diaries promoting the service -- Big G clearly hustling to get support (as they should.)

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« Reply #357 on: August 19, 2019, 02:17:57 PM »
The first big game to go Stadia exclusive is going to cause riots. :lol

At least EGS is like Steam but worse. Stadia is a compleeeeeeeetely different beast, and gamers don't like change.

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« Reply #358 on: August 19, 2019, 02:18:38 PM »
both OMD3 and Get Packed are "launch exclusives"


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« Reply #359 on: August 19, 2019, 02:19:52 PM »
Cyberpunk not launching with the other versions

https://twitter.com/DomsPlaying/status/1163513072000131072