i was speaking generally to roguelikes because you were speaking generally. i haven't played returnal. tbh, i haven't gotten really into a roguelike in a while, but i used to love playing nethack with friends in the compsci labs, and i really enjoyed what i played of spelunky, FTL, enter the gungeon etc and yeah, souls games do riff on the genre too and is one of my favourite series. hades is in the backlog