Post by: Himu on January 04, 2022, 08:27:48 PM
https://youtu.be/l4RlG-nHTSM
Post by: BIONIC on January 04, 2022, 08:39:58 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 04, 2022, 08:40:49 PM
Post by: Potato on January 04, 2022, 09:10:01 PM
Anyone who thinks the right hasn't been fighting a culture war is deranged.
The left cancels people for not using the correct alphabet people pronouns and the right cancels people for not adhering to dubious sky fairy doctrine.
It's all the same bullshit and you need to stop falling for this dumb shit.
Post by: Himu on January 04, 2022, 09:15:29 PM
You can't have a war without both sides participating in it himu.
Anyone who thinks the right hasn't been fighting a culture war is deranged.
The left cancels people for not using the correct alphabet people pronouns and the right cancels people for not adhering to dubious sky fairy doctrine.
It's all the same bullshit and you need to stop falling for this dumb shit.
This thread isn't about cancel culture at all and I'm interested in both "sides". Honestly though, the left is definitely winning and dominates culture via corporate support.
Post by: BisMarckie on January 04, 2022, 09:24:15 PM
Culture Club :supergay
Post by: Uncle on January 04, 2022, 09:27:41 PM
Post by: Uncle on January 04, 2022, 09:35:16 PM
People on both sides of the political spectrum thinking Star Wars and Marvel movies are "important." :neogaf
well, here's the thing though, everyone seems to agree the average person is dumb, like really insanely dumb
people are afraid of foreigners with their weird mexican language taking their jobs so when you promise to wall them off, they say "well hot damn that feller's smart, he's my president"
corona is scary for old people who see their fellow olds dying so they vote out the trump who promised them it would just disappear and they vote in the biden, believing when he says he will stop the corona, and then when he doesn't stop the corona they do a frowny face and give him a 44% approval rating
people are really stupid
and they all watch every disney movie and play every call of duty
and through the explosions and popcorn they soak up whatever message is conveyed by the media, and they use that to inform their worldview, because they don't have any actually meaningful conversations or read thought-provoking articles
they say things like "killmonger was right haha" and "this is the way" and "sorry to hear that bro, btw you should read berserk" (https://i.imgur.com/D1QD4jf.png)
this is not a soapbox to proclaim that media is doing a particularly good or bad job with its messaging, or that it's on the right or wrong political side, just that I think it's contradictory to believe the average person is pretty dumb, but that the average person is smart enough not to be influenced by the media they consume
Ghostbusters 2016 isn't an important film because "omg finally we get a movie with four funny and strong women who pass the bechdel test and were able to make men everywhere cry male tears because they courageously conquered a male-dominated franchise"
Ghostbosters 2016 is an important film because it informs us that, frighteningly, people actually believe things like the above and make it a part of their identity
Post by: Uncle on January 04, 2022, 09:53:54 PM
You can't have a war without both sides participating in it himu.
Anyone who thinks the right hasn't been fighting a culture war is deranged.
The left cancels people for not using the correct alphabet people pronouns and the right cancels people for not adhering to dubious sky fairy doctrine.
It's all the same bullshit and you need to stop falling for this dumb shit.
This thread isn't about cancel culture at all and I'm interested in both "sides". Honestly though, the left is definitely winning and dominates culture via corporate support.
what else is a corporation supposed to do, though? they exist to pander to their audience, and they want the audience as broad as possible
- millions of dollars are at stake in any major corporate effort, both the spending and the earning
- population at an all time high, which means art/media at an all time high, so competition for attention is fierce
- media needs to appeal to as broad an audience as possible with as broad a message as possible
- one political party positions itself as wanting to see, essentially, an ethnicity/sexual rainbow in your product, and the other party wants nothing but hetero whites
- focus test: do we make more money if we target everyone, or only hetero whites?
- oh
- oh that's a lot of money
- look I know a lot of conservatives are rich but they still only purchase our product once, just like the poor brown people
- yeah I guess we're making that broad rainbow media that is only "left" because the right insists it must be
- if you listen to the message though we're still encouraging you to embrace your role in society as a consumer so we still got that going for us
Post by: benjipwns on January 04, 2022, 11:07:57 PM
Discussions on the culture war that is being forced upon us with multiple agendas from the left, politically and culturally.-"The culture war is here" in title
https://youtu.be/l4RlG-nHTSM
-Icon of guy in hat with a beard with fire behind him
-Multiple images with every single one being a massive corporate media film/TV franchise
Post by: Uncle on January 04, 2022, 11:11:29 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 04, 2022, 11:44:48 PM
Post by: Uncle on January 05, 2022, 12:11:38 AM
Post by: Don Rumata on January 05, 2022, 08:43:06 AM
Discussions on the culture war that is being forced upon us with multiple agendas from the left, politically and culturally.The "us vs them" framing he uses is part of the issue.
https://youtu.be/l4RlG-nHTSM
Promoting more group think is the problem.
It doesn't matter if it's the "conservative right" or the "authorative left" on top, the big group fucking with the smaller group is a constant of nature, and it can be contrasted only by limiting as much as possible the need to appeal and belong to a clique or a group.
Rational, critical thinking is really the only sensible out.
It's not a coincidence that so many of the rhetorical tactics employed by the mob are geared towards anti-intellectualism.
Whether it's the left wing "woke" crowd silencing professors, or the rightwing nutjobs silencing scientists.
It's still just demagogy, just applied to internet and social media, which grants unprecedented levels of capillarity and invasiveness.
Now the left has the cultural dominance, 60 years ago it was the right.
As long as you keep framing it as left vs right, it's just going around the carousel, over and over.
Reason why i personally don't like the bi-partisan system you have in the US.
Post by: Uncle on January 05, 2022, 09:09:06 AM
Now the left has the cultural dominance, 60 years ago it was the right.
As long as you keep framing it as left vs right, it's just going around the carousel, over and over.
Reason why i personally don't like the bi-partisan system you have in the US.
what countries have stopped the carousel, specifically in the modern culture war context?
like if the US's partisan nature is the problem, what country would you point to as one that wasn't divided along partisan lines, where everyone came together and said, you're right, we need to be accepting and embracing of minorities but we also can't let this carry us away, we can reject this hyper-focus on the problematic and just enjoy ourselves again
which country did that?
Post by: VomKriege on January 05, 2022, 09:34:17 AM
There's hundred of thousands films that have been made and thousands more each year, which either are more genuine or prolly more interested in other things.
Post by: Tasty on January 05, 2022, 10:17:28 AM
https://twitter.com/SohrabAhmari/status/1477285719907487748
Regarding the People's Republic of China, you do not, under any circumstances, "gotta hand it to them."
Post by: Tasty on January 05, 2022, 10:18:14 AM
Enjoy the movies you want :yeshrug
There's hundred of thousands film that have been made and thousands more each year, which either are more genuine or prolly more interested in other things.
Basically this.
Culture wars :nope
Culture :ohyeah
Post by: bork on January 05, 2022, 10:26:57 AM
Enjoy the movies you want :yeshrug
There's hundred of thousands film that have been made and thousands more each year, which either are more genuine or prolly more interested in other things.
Basically this.
Culture wars :nope
Culture :ohyeah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeG6W6YHrRo
PROTOCULTURE
:jeb
Post by: Tasty on January 05, 2022, 10:27:50 AM
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on January 05, 2022, 10:33:23 AM
Food Cultures
Post by: BIONIC on January 05, 2022, 11:21:46 AM
Post by: Don Rumata on January 05, 2022, 02:18:55 PM
I didn't say the bi-partisan system is THE problem, but i think it's part of the problem.Now the left has the cultural dominance, 60 years ago it was the right.
As long as you keep framing it as left vs right, it's just going around the carousel, over and over.
Reason why i personally don't like the bi-partisan system you have in the US.
what countries have stopped the carousel, specifically in the modern culture war context?
like if the US's partisan nature is the problem, what country would you point to as one that wasn't divided along partisan lines, where everyone came together and said, you're right, we need to be accepting and embracing of minorities but we also can't let this carry us away, we can reject this hyper-focus on the problematic and just enjoy ourselves again
which country did that?
I think a proportional system with multiple parties can be a better representation of the diversity of ideas within a community/population, and thus a more democratic approach.
Anything that dispels the tribalistic nature of us v them, and promotes the ideas of critical thinking, and considering ideas for what they are, instead of where they come from.
I know that most countries, even those with multiple parties, tend to boil down to right v left anyway, but it's still worth trying to fight back against this simplification of political ideas.
It makes no sense to have to subscribe to an entire political platform, just because i support some of its ideas.
Though i know that would seem to imply direct democracy, i don't know how realistic that is, in larger realities (like the US).
Post by: Himu on January 05, 2022, 02:18:59 PM
Discussions on the culture war that is being forced upon us with multiple agendas from the left, politically and culturally.-"The culture war is here" in title
https://youtu.be/l4RlG-nHTSM
-Icon of guy in hat with a beard with fire behind him
-Multiple images with every single one being a massive corporate media film/TV franchise
I just find the whole situation fascinating from a sociological lens.
Conservatives say the left wing owns culture because of corporate assimilation and lifting up left viewpoints. But the actual left thinks corporations use their causes for only acquiring capitol rather than being earnest believers. See the way companies treat Pride. For a month it's nothing but rainbow but as soon as it's July 1st the lgbt are forgotten by these corporations as if they used an entire group of people for a paycheck. But while all this is going on the right, because they see how culturally dominant the left is getting they view it unilaterally as a threat as companies worth billions back the left. This results in lots negative feelings and without a manner to discuss what the right think outside of conservative media which makes the right further dig their heels and in some cases radicslize because few things are being made for them.
Like I said, it's fascinating.
Post by: Himu on January 05, 2022, 05:45:46 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 05, 2022, 09:33:01 PM
Culture war :nope
Culture Club :supergay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmcA9LIIXWw
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 05, 2022, 09:38:06 PM
Now the left has the cultural dominance, 60 years ago it was the right.
I mean, it's been quite a bit less than 60 years from the time when big movies were "Rah-rah-rah U-S-A! U-S-A! Go capitalism! Boo socialism!!" and "Liberal politicians and prosecutors can't be trusted to protect us from crime, we need hardnosed cops who aren't afraid to blast criminals in the face."
Post by: Himu on January 06, 2022, 12:16:49 AM
As I consider these topics I realize it's not about left or right as both make great points. I really like the dialogue happening.
Post by: Don Rumata on January 06, 2022, 12:37:43 AM
I see a lot of cretins shouting, trying to silence the opposing team, and in the process scaring away normal people from public, political discourse.
Post by: Himu on January 06, 2022, 12:41:46 AM
I don't see much "dialogue" happening.
I see a lot of cretins shouting, trying to silence the opposing team, and in the process scaring away normal people from public, political discourse.
I'm talking about this thread
Post by: Himu on January 06, 2022, 12:47:47 AM
https://tarahenley.substack.com/p/speaking-freely?r=9dpfg
The left controls culture and perspectives. Will they be willing to admit it and will we be able to curate a society that allows multiple perspectives?
Reading this reveals why conservatives label it "cultural Marxism". I get their point and I'm sympathetic to it. It paints a perfect critique against leftist thought and thinking and also reveals the methodologies that curated the CCCP and Mao's revolution.
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 06, 2022, 10:16:02 AM
Good point Rumbler. But things like Commando are like 40 years ago and that was kind of the height. It feels like that kind of movie died with 9/11.
Nah, it just morphed into "Jack Bauer torturing people is fine because it's okay to torture bad people."
Post by: Himu on January 06, 2022, 10:29:54 AM
Good point Rumbler. But things like Commando are like 40 years ago and that was kind of the height. It feels like that kind of movie died with 9/11.
Nah, it just morphed into "Jack Bauer torturing people is fine because it's okay to torture bad people."
Ohh right. Good point.
Post by: tiesto on January 06, 2022, 11:56:34 AM
I once heard that in the US, the Dems and Republicans have influence in differing sectors:
Republicans - manpower-heavy sectors like the military/Pentagon, agriculture, extraction/energy
Dems - informational sectors like the media, finance, tech, education
Right now, the tech and finance sectors are probably the most thriving sectors in America, and because of their very nature (informational), they're able to rapidly push their values. Considering these industries are situated in highly diverse, wealthy, coastal urban areas, what gets pushed seems foreign and imposing to small town middle american conservatives, triggering more backlash.
I wish I could find the article, but I had a good one that shows 'wokeness' is a cultural elite symbolizer. In fact a lot of people will use the 'language' of wokeness but not actually buy into it. Being "offended" seems like a type of virtue signaling more than anything else, the polar reversal of late 90's, early 00's "extreme" culture ("you can't offend me! even with your goatse and edgelord racist jokes").
The culture war that's mostly been apparent to me lately is the working class vs. professional class divide. When I look at my friends and people I associate with on a regular basis, almost all have at least a 4 year degree and work in Dem-focused sectors. Working class people (usually those in the trades, who around here make some very good money and also are strong Trump supporters) I talk to tend to have a lot of suspicion of the professional class and live in their own media/social/interest bubble (and yes, there's a whole cottage industry for conservative grievance - look at the people turning a mediocre chicken sandwich into the paragon of high-class dining). It's like, in my personal experience the people I'm friends/acquaintances with is certainly diverse (in terms of the big corpo HR definition), got people who are lbgtq, varied racial/ethnic backgrounds from West African to Sephardic to Peruvian Chinese to Indian and Japanese expats, but barely any salt-of-the-earth working class types. I just can't seem to relate to them on political, cultural, hobby, levels.
Post by: Himu on January 06, 2022, 01:15:45 PM
@Tiesto: Good observation on the differences in sector and the prevalence of tech and finance as today's largest cultural touchstones. It's an argument worth considering. I really like it.
I'm working class, Tiesto. Although I was raised middle class and graduated college. I'm not doing salt of the Earth but I am involved in trade school. One of the key differences between the working class and professional class I notice is that working class believes if you work hard enough you will achieve it. There's still a sliver of the old American dream and they conduct themselves knowingly with it mindset. The professional class tends to be more myopic and cynical towards hard work being recognized. This colors the mindsets of the two groups in my experience. If the person went to college they're more than likely to wallow in their own self pity even if they are working class.
Being offended really does feel like the modern reverse of extreme culture and you're right it is mostly virtue signaling and a signifier of elitism. Do people in your circle realize this?
It isn't just elites that buy into wokeness though. A lot of artists I know go for it too and implement it into their work. Whether they buy into it truly or are just using it to make a buck is to be seen. Although I am currently working class, because of my middle class background I'm well aware of wokeness.
Post by: Uncle on January 06, 2022, 01:36:54 PM
current prevailing opinion is that one side has nothing at all worth offering, that there is no baby to throw out with the bathwater
like asking, "should we have pizza for dinner, or rusty nails?" no one is going to say "well just for the sake of not having pizza dominate the conversation we will add 1 rusty nail to it, because both sides have good ideas"
so I think if you want to get into the discussion of whether it's valid to endorse a mix of viewpoints you'd have to start by demonstrating/convincing others that there are worthwhile viewpoints on both sides
for the sake of not dominating all media, what's an example of a viewpoint that you would like to see?
like, "there should be a fully funded netflix show that isn't afraid to have only white characters, and also leave out all LGBT, just tell your story without getting into any sexualities"
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on January 06, 2022, 01:43:50 PM
Post by: BIONIC on January 06, 2022, 01:53:21 PM
Post by: Uncle on January 06, 2022, 02:02:49 PM
Post by: tiesto on January 06, 2022, 02:42:33 PM
Rumbler would you say it's good that one "side" dominates the culture? Isn't one perspective being thrust upon all of society problematic no matter what type? If Jack Bauer's terrorism shenanigans acted as propaganda can it be argued that the left fueled media of today is also potentially propaganda?
@Tiesto: Good observation on the differences in sector and the prevalence of tech and finance as today's largest cultural touchstones. It's an argument worth considering. I really like it.
I'm working class, Tiesto. Although I was raised middle class and graduated college. I'm not doing salt of the Earth but I am involved in trade school. One of the key differences between the working class and professional class I notice is that working class believes if you work hard enough you will achieve it. There's still a sliver of the old American dream and they conduct themselves knowingly with it mindset. The professional class tends to be more myopic and cynical towards hard work being recognized. This colors the mindsets of the two groups in my experience. If the person went to college they're more than likely to wallow in their own self pity even if they are working class.
Being offended really does feel like the modern reverse of extreme culture and you're right it is mostly virtue signaling and a signifier of elitism. Do people in your circle realize this?
It isn't just elites that buy into wokeness though. A lot of artists I know go for it too and implement it into their work. Whether they buy into it truly or are just using it to make a buck is to be seen. Although I am currently working class, because of my middle class background I'm well aware of wokeness.
That's another great observation of the mindset towards work between say, blue and white collar workers. Speaking from personal experience, it's definitely frustrating when you break your ass, putting in extra off-the-clock time (no OT because you're salaried), and then get passed over for a promotion due to office politics. Certain people may be very talented and hardworking, but they're just not good at (or not interested in) playing "the game", bad at speaking up about their accomplishments, etc. - also I've been in situations where I was let go due to a merger, forced into relocation because the newly-elected division president had a vendetta against my particular office. I've had reviews with managers where they were like "you don't seem to put in as much time as your other team members. Yes, that's great you're working 50+ hours, but Brian is working 60-70 hours a week". I know a lot of other people who are underemployed based on their credentials. So that definitely creates a lot of jaded college-educated and white-collar people out there, myself included.
Working class, or SBOs, definitely seem to have a more straightforward progression in their fields and tend to have OT when they work over their allotted time.
Post by: benjipwns on January 06, 2022, 05:52:27 PM
Rumbler would you say it's good that one "side" dominates the culture? Isn't one perspective being thrust upon all of society problematic no matter what type? If Jack Bauer's terrorism shenanigans acted as propaganda can it be argued that the left fueled media of today is also potentially propaganda?Is there any evidence that one side dominates the culture and is "thrusting upon all of society" propaganda?
Look at the case of Succession and Yellowstone. One got all the elite media attention, awards, etc. The other gets five times the number of viewers and has been around longer only recently being noticed by the elite media for being apparently quite similar to Succession.
Post by: Himu on January 06, 2022, 06:09:49 PM
Rumbler would you say it's good that one "side" dominates the culture? Isn't one perspective being thrust upon all of society problematic no matter what type? If Jack Bauer's terrorism shenanigans acted as propaganda can it be argued that the left fueled media of today is also potentially propaganda?Is there any evidence that one side dominates the culture and is "thrusting upon all of society" propaganda?
Look at the case of Succession and Yellowstone. One got all the elite media attention, awards, etc. The other gets five times the number of viewers and has been around longer only recently being noticed by the elite media for being apparently quite similar to Succession.
Hmm, I can't point to evidence but...it feels like the left is pushing stuff in media? Maybe they're just more loud?
Let's take It Part 2. There was a bunch of gay stuff inserted that felt kind of forced. From the opening with the gay couple being beaten up for being gay to making Richie gay for Eddie. I mean there's nothing wrong with it, as gay people exist, but the way it's written feels forced and...extra? It feels like this happens in a lot of media now where they're making everyone gay or bi. This is an off hand example.
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 06, 2022, 06:15:18 PM
Let's just be clear about what’s in rumbler’s mouth :drool
Lots of saliva, currently.
Only my own, unfortunately. :mjcry
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 06, 2022, 06:21:05 PM
Let's take It Part 2. There was a bunch of gay stuff inserted that felt kind of forced. From the opening with the gay couple being beaten up for being gay to making Richie gay for Eddie. I mean there's nothing wrong with it, as gay people exist, but the way it's written feels forced and...extra? It feels like this happens in a lot of media now where they're making everyone gay or bi. This is an off hand example.
The first one of those two is straight from the book, though.
Post by: Himu on January 06, 2022, 06:29:19 PM
Post by: Lonewulfeus on January 06, 2022, 07:02:41 PM
Let's take It Part 2. There was a bunch of gay stuff inserted that felt kind of forced. From the opening with the gay couple being beaten up for being gay to making Richie gay for Eddie. I mean there's nothing wrong with it, as gay people exist, but the way it's written feels forced and...extra? It feels like this happens in a lot of media now where they're making everyone gay or bi. This is an off hand example.
The first one of those two is straight from the book, though.
And King based it on a real life murder of a gay man in Bangor like 2 years before he wrote the book.
Post by: Himu on January 06, 2022, 07:55:27 PM
Let's take It Part 2. There was a bunch of gay stuff inserted that felt kind of forced. From the opening with the gay couple being beaten up for being gay to making Richie gay for Eddie. I mean there's nothing wrong with it, as gay people exist, but the way it's written feels forced and...extra? It feels like this happens in a lot of media now where they're making everyone gay or bi. This is an off hand example.
The first one of those two is straight from the book, though.
And King based it on a real life murder of a gay man in Bangor like 2 years before he wrote the book.
Doesn't change they're making everyone gay or bi or something or continually play with race swapping like making Superman black. Hollywood was rightfully criticized for its lack of diversity and they responded in the most daft, hollow way imaginable - by expanding diversity by making the race/gender the focus of the story rather than the story itself.
Which is how you get situations like Star Trek Discovery.
Post by: Uncle on January 06, 2022, 08:38:26 PM
Let's take It Part 2. There was a bunch of gay stuff inserted that felt kind of forced. From the opening with the gay couple being beaten up for being gay to making Richie gay for Eddie. I mean there's nothing wrong with it, as gay people exist, but the way it's written feels forced and...extra? It feels like this happens in a lot of media now where they're making everyone gay or bi. This is an off hand example.
The first one of those two is straight from the book, though.
gay from the book tbh
Post by: Himu on January 25, 2022, 06:37:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt9K6kmpx44
Post by: Nintex on January 25, 2022, 06:55:08 PM
:kermit
Post by: james on January 25, 2022, 08:30:43 PM
I fell asleep watching it
Post by: benjipwns on January 26, 2022, 01:24:11 AM
Post by: Potato on January 26, 2022, 02:26:44 AM
https://twitter.com/BravoTV/status/1486031228818104325Translation: We intentionally cast maladjusted mental health patients in our shitty "reality" show, but we didn't think anyone would be as mentally mental as this fucking idiot. We'll try to do better and only cast the mentally unwell who DON'T post shit on social media that will get our show cancelled by the mob.
Post by: Himu on January 26, 2022, 08:12:21 AM
Post by: Himu on January 26, 2022, 08:57:04 AM
:woody at multiple posts in a row of himu ranting about something and then following it with "actually I haven't seen/read/listened to it"
I don't think that actually occurred.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 26, 2022, 09:02:54 AM
Post by: HardcoreRetro on January 26, 2022, 10:23:04 AM
Apparently this JRE and JP podcast is awful/weird and JP has changed a lot since his coma and likely has legit brain damage.
The guy wasn't exactly right in the head before the coma. The last time he was on Joe Rogan he claimed drinking some apple cider kept him awake for 25 days and made him go insane.
Post by: team filler on January 26, 2022, 03:01:04 PM
Daily reminder that the winning move in the culture warz is simply not to play.much better to play both sides :)
Post by: Nintex on January 26, 2022, 04:59:24 PM
(https://c.tenor.com/VEuLWynjOYIAAAAd/jre-joe-rogan.gif)
Post by: Tasty on January 26, 2022, 05:30:04 PM
Post by: Nintex on January 28, 2022, 03:20:40 PM
Post by: Himu on January 28, 2022, 03:30:08 PM
Apparently so!
Post by: bork on January 28, 2022, 03:56:49 PM
Adam and Jimmy made The Man Show and they seem like polar fucking opposites now. Are they still friends?
Apparently so!
Just because they have different political views doesn't mean they can't be friends. Maybe that's more of a problem with the younger crowd? I don't know.
Post by: team filler on January 28, 2022, 05:32:39 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on January 28, 2022, 05:58:15 PM
Post by: Potato on January 28, 2022, 08:15:43 PM
One of my friends is a commie bastard and occasionally posts shit I disagree with on Facebook. Doesn't stop us being friends, playing soccer together and having a laugh.Adam and Jimmy made The Man Show and they seem like polar fucking opposites now. Are they still friends?
Apparently so!
Just because they have different political views doesn't mean they can't be friends. Maybe that's more of a problem with the younger crowd? I don't know.
Maybe it's because our political beliefs are only small parts of who we are instead of being our whole personalities like some of the younger generations...I dunno.
Post by: Tasty on January 28, 2022, 08:35:20 PM
Post by: Nintex on January 29, 2022, 07:08:44 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKRCr2jXwAQzlav?format=jpg)
Post by: benjipwns on January 29, 2022, 08:27:11 PM
Post by: Potato on January 29, 2022, 11:57:16 PM
https://twitter.com/JerryDunleavy/status/1487150010668101639 (https://twitter.com/JerryDunleavy/status/1487150010668101639)Can't be having that institutional persecution of white people in South Africa and Zimbabwe classed as racism now!!
:jawalrus
Post by: Rufus on January 30, 2022, 07:18:18 AM
I'm guessing somebody just screwed up.
The same phrasing repeats lower down on the page, when they explain white supremacy specifically:
Quote from: https://www.adl.org/racism
Racism: The marginalization and/or oppression of people of color based on a socially constructed racial hierarchy that privileges white people.
Also related are the definitions of Race and Systemic Racism.
Race: Refers to the categories into which society places individuals on the basis of physical characteristics (such as skin color, hair type, facial form and eye shape). Though many believe that race is determined by biology, it is now widely accepted that this classification system was in fact created for social and political reasons. There are actually more genetic and biological differences within the racial groups defined by society than between different groups.
Systemic Racism: A combination of systems, institutions and factors that advantage white people and for people of color, cause widespread harm and disadvantages in access and opportunity. One person or even one group of people did not create systemic racism, rather it: (1) is grounded in the history of our laws and institutions which were created on a foundation of white supremacy;* (2) exists in the institutions and policies that advantage white people and disadvantage people of color; and (3) takes places in interpersonal communication and behavior (e.g., slurs, bullying, offensive language) that maintains and supports systemic inequities and systemic racism.
* In the above definition, the term “white supremacy” refers to the systematic marginalization or oppression of people of color based on a socially constructed racial hierarchy that privileges people who identify as white. It does not refer to extremist ideologies which believe that white people are genetically or culturally superior to non-whites and/or that white people should live in a whites-only society.
--Last updated July 2020
Earliest snapshot of the page from 2020 (earlier versions appear to be identical, only looked at the very first archived though):
https://web.archive.org/web/20200520233336/https://www.adl.org/racism
Very different. It's a whole essay on the topic, for one.
Post by: Nintex on January 30, 2022, 04:07:57 PM
Spotify is the Stalingrad of the culture war - Nintex
Post by: Potato on January 30, 2022, 08:50:37 PM
Post by: Uncle on January 31, 2022, 09:29:46 AM
One of my friends is a commie bastard and occasionally posts shit I disagree with on Facebook. Doesn't stop us being friends, playing soccer together and having a laugh.Adam and Jimmy made The Man Show and they seem like polar fucking opposites now. Are they still friends?
Apparently so!
Just because they have different political views doesn't mean they can't be friends. Maybe that's more of a problem with the younger crowd? I don't know.
Maybe it's because our political beliefs are only small parts of who we are instead of being our whole personalities like some of the younger generations...I dunno.
it's always other people, external forces telling you that you can't be friends with your friends
"the paradox of tolerance tells us that we cannot be tolerant of the intolerant, therefore don't tolerate your friends which we have defined as intolerant"
:meeble
"words are violence; even though we defeated the religious right by advocacy of questioning everything, you now cannot question us or you will lose your friends, your job, and future prospects"
:notlikethis
Post by: Uncle on January 31, 2022, 12:08:08 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/LQxh5Bv.png)
but they won't let anyone see how many people thought it sucked, unlike when you check any other random movie or show
(https://i.imgur.com/SOGR5l6.png)
wikipedia thinks it's important you understand that the show was only disliked by antisemites and white supremacists
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Inc.
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Controversy
According to The Daily Dot, the trailer for the series received backlash in the comments section and over 200,000 dislikes on YouTube, with various antisemitic and Holocaust denial jokes.[10] However, HBO Max defended the trailer and disabled the comments due to its controversies. Rogen claimed that the series was being review bombed by tens of thousands of white supremacists.[11]
on the talk page, they have very good reasons for this, y'see, the only reputable sources for news said that chuds hated it, so their hands are tied as far as ascribing any particular narrative
:idont
(https://i.imgur.com/UZaVSvR.png)
they also protected this very important informational page to make sure all info on it remains sacred and set in stone for all to see
Post by: benjipwns on January 31, 2022, 01:37:45 PM
edit:
Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:The_Daily_Dot
Just wondering, why is this site considered a reliable source to be cited on Wikipedia when it seems to be a blog at best? Killhamster (talk) 20:56, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi! There have been some Reliable source noticeboard posts related to The Daily Dot:
Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_102#The_Daily_Dot
Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_105#Daily_Dot_revisited
I'm not really sure if there has been a firm decision made on it.
WhisperToMe (talk) 21:47, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
This is a notable RS
@Jone Rohne Nester:, I think this tag was a mistake, this is a notable RS. Valoem talk contrib 02:46, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
@Valoem: Hi, no it wasn't a mistake. I can't find any reasons why spammy websites like The Daily Dot should be on Wikipedia. Secondly, there are no reliable sources. This article will be tagged with afd , so we can discuss it further. Thanks Jone Rohne Nester (talk) 09:43, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
I have to agree, there isn't really any notoriety for this, and similar, online only "news sources" The content is 75% opinion based and bias, even by 2019 msm norms. PeaceKeeper1234 01:20, 1 March 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peacekeeper 1234 (talk • contribs)
Post by: benjipwns on January 31, 2022, 02:50:42 PM
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https://twitter.com/Rschooley/status/1487999721385836544
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Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 31, 2022, 07:02:47 PM
Post by: Potato on January 31, 2022, 07:30:30 PM
rorgans audience are adults, if they take medical advice from him then it's their own fault, it's not like he's hyping up ivermectin and saying the vax is for fegs on nickelodeon :maduro:confused
You mean, adults should be expected to take responsibility for their own actions? How silly of you!!!!
Post by: benjipwns on January 31, 2022, 08:59:24 PM
lol the replies
Post by: benjipwns on January 31, 2022, 09:04:30 PM
Post by: Uncle on January 31, 2022, 09:21:16 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 31, 2022, 11:18:28 PM
well that escalated
Post by: benjipwns on February 02, 2022, 10:32:02 AM
Post by: benjipwns on February 02, 2022, 02:56:07 PM
:hmm
Post by: Uncle on February 02, 2022, 03:17:12 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 02, 2022, 04:15:09 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 02, 2022, 04:15:21 PM
https://twitter.com/SethAMandel/status/1488953340532862976
https://twitter.com/SethAMandel/status/1488963036702515200
Post by: Potato on February 02, 2022, 04:18:41 PM
Just listening to The Joe Rogan Experience once led me to having an orgy with unvaccinated aliens and gorillas :stahpSounds like a good time. Maybe I ought to start listening
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 02, 2022, 04:23:34 PM
unless you're an educated white too and get it reversed on you :anhuld
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 02, 2022, 04:24:43 PM
Just listening to The Joe Rogan Experience once led me to having an orgy with unvaccinated aliens and gorillas :stahpSounds like a good time. Maybe I ought to start listening
I wouldn't recommend it, I got anal omicron :ryker
Post by: Uncle on February 02, 2022, 04:59:35 PM
https://twitter.com/JerryDunleavy/status/1488959573021110275
https://twitter.com/SethAMandel/status/1488953340532862976
https://twitter.com/SethAMandel/status/1488963036702515200
wait wait wait
wait...
this is because of fuckin whoopi isn't it
:neogaf
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/592276-the-view-invites-adl-chief-on-after-whoopi-goldbergs-holocaust-comments
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ABC's "The View" hosted the head of the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) to speak about antisemitism and the history of the Holocaust a day after its leading host, Whoopi Goldberg, sparked backlash with comments suggesting the genocide was "not about race."
...
The head of the ADL told Goldberg platforms like hers are "so important" to efforts fighting the targeting of Jewish people around the world.
"Using it to educate people that antisemitism remains a clear and present danger," he said. "I mean, it's a real issue, and we've got to confront it and the racism at the core."
under their recent definition, the nazis couldn't have been racist because the jews were not people of color
:ohhh :snoop :dead
Post by: james on February 02, 2022, 05:19:44 PM
https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1488992284796465152
Post by: Himu on February 02, 2022, 06:47:15 PM
The entire protest is distinguished mentally-challenged. Burzum is on apple music (my stream service) and I'm not protesting. Fuck. Don't listen to it. Joe Rogan is so popular he will go to another service you use. Liberals and their endless virtue signaling.
Post by: headwalk on February 02, 2022, 07:39:10 PM
Post by: Snoopycat_ on February 02, 2022, 08:21:07 PM
Post by: Uncle on February 02, 2022, 09:19:19 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/R7vDFGN.png)
youtube is now blocking people from watching streams if the user's channel is "too small" and the viewer count is "too high"
so, for example, anyone streaming a protest to show the on-the-ground story is going to have a much smaller reach
small streamers can no longer go viral
also recall that they removed the dislike button to "protect smaller channels" because they care so much :doge
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on February 03, 2022, 12:42:10 AM
https://reclaimthenet.org/youtube-capping-viewer-limits/
(https://i.imgur.com/R7vDFGN.png)
youtube is now blocking people from watching streams if the user's channel is "too small" and the viewer count is "too high"
so, for example, anyone streaming a protest to show the on-the-ground story is going to have a much smaller reach
small streamers can no longer go viral
also recall that they removed the dislike button to "protect smaller channels" because they care so much :doge
This is why google went 20:1 , they know nft
Post by: Nintex on February 03, 2022, 03:28:44 AM
:salute
Post by: headwalk on February 03, 2022, 05:44:49 AM
Does it begin with an S and have a blue bird icon?
delete this.
Post by: james on February 03, 2022, 10:42:17 AM
Good God liberals and shit that doesn't matter. All this over fucking Joe Rogan who has been on Spotify for months.
The entire protest is distinguished mentally-challenged. Burzum is on apple music (my stream service) and I'm not protesting. Fuck. Don't listen to it. Joe Rogan is so popular he will go to another service you use. Liberals and their endless virtue signaling.
Virtue signal this bitch
(-48.31%)
past year
Post by: tiesto on February 03, 2022, 04:49:21 PM
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-books-race-sexuality-schools-rcna13886?utm_source=pocket-newtab (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-books-race-sexuality-schools-rcna13886?utm_source=pocket-newtab)
Honestly, this is the censorship that should get people upset, not that someone gets banned from a privately owned service for distributing harmful views.
Post by: Rufus on February 03, 2022, 06:36:09 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 04, 2022, 11:30:50 AM
Post by: benjipwns on February 04, 2022, 11:53:02 AM
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https://twitter.com/Wattamus/status/1489316057319972872
https://twitter.com/EvanBrownAuthor/status/1489076187209269248
https://twitter.com/justksshit/status/1489077893011578880
https://twitter.com/EvanBrownAuthor/status/1489076187209269248
https://twitter.com/justksshit/status/1489077893011578880
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Post by: Nintex on February 05, 2022, 07:36:58 AM
When they couldn't catch Rogan on COVID they pulled the racism card and made an n-word montage. It was mostly just him quoting that word when other people used it.
https://twitter.com/donwinslow/status/1489741351935627266 (https://twitter.com/donwinslow/status/1489741351935627266)
Now they're trying to drive a wedge between The Rock and Rogan.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 05, 2022, 09:23:42 AM
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:info will welcome a fellow patriot to banned.video with open arms
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also Dwayne Johnson is a born and bred carny, like this will work on him, he'll just ignore it.
Post by: Himu on February 05, 2022, 09:32:32 AM
70 eps of JRE pulled from spotify.
When they couldn't catch Rogan on COVID they pulled the racism card and made an n-word montage. It was mostly just him quoting that word when other people used it.
https://twitter.com/donwinslow/status/1489741351935627266 (https://twitter.com/donwinslow/status/1489741351935627266)
Now they're trying to drive a wedge between The Rock and Rogan.
Liberalism is a cancer and needs to die.
Post by: Himu on February 05, 2022, 09:33:20 AM
lol they do realise that if spotify bins Rogan, wherever he goes next will probably be the Youtube alternative that ends up being viable right?spoiler (click to show/hide):info will welcome a fellow patriot to banned.video with open arms[close]
also Dwayne Johnson is a born and bred carny, like this will work on him, he'll just ignore it.
Let's do it. Let's make a youtube alternative and put Joe on it.
Post by: Nintex on February 05, 2022, 09:37:42 AM
lol they do realise that if spotify bins Rogan, wherever he goes next will probably be the Youtube alternative that ends up being viable right?It all depends on if his buddies will stick with him or if they managed to make him 'toxic' enough that no one wants to come on the show.spoiler (click to show/hide):info will welcome a fellow patriot to banned.video with open arms[close]
also Dwayne Johnson is a born and bred carny, like this will work on him, he'll just ignore it.
When The Rock, Bill Burr, Dana White, Tim Dillon, Dana White and others continue to defend him there's not much the blue checks can do.
Once they manage to drive a wedge between Rogan, his frequent guests and friends then he's either not going to or won't be able to continue the JRE Podcast.
His podcast depends on his guests and audience. He can lose part of his audience but he can't lose his guests and doesn't want to lose his friends.
All these people are showing their true colors though, it was never about COVID.
They just want to cancel Rogan for wrongthink and being a threat to the big media corporations.
What will The Rock do when he has to decide between keeping his Disney contract and breaking ties with Rogan or sticking with Joe but losing his movie roles.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 05, 2022, 09:39:24 AM
Post by: Himu on February 05, 2022, 09:42:55 AM
All these people are showing their true colors though, it was never about COVID.
They just want to cancel Rogan for wrongthink and being a threat to the big media corporations.
Precisely.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 05, 2022, 09:44:42 AM
Post by: Nintex on February 05, 2022, 09:45:16 AM
I think Greenwald is/was trying to set one up, its not just Joe who would go though, the "Roganverse" and hangers on (a lot have big youtube followings) would more than likely jump too.Joe doesn't like to be seen as being part of either side and I would highly doubt he would join a channel that heavily leans to either side.
The more likely outcome would be, that he would just self-publish on YouTube and other channels again and maybe invest in his own website in case he got cancelled.
However, I doubt he will turn JRE into a platform for others to join and I think he would just stop with the JRE it if his friends drop him or Spotify drops him for being a racist.
Some of his friends are pretty clear on where they stand on this though
https://twitter.com/TimJDillon/status/1489749520527368193 (https://twitter.com/TimJDillon/status/1489749520527368193)
This is the video of Joe adressing it for those who haven't seen it
https://twitter.com/PopCrave/status/1489953221997178880 (https://twitter.com/PopCrave/status/1489953221997178880)
Post by: Himu on February 05, 2022, 10:27:49 AM
Post by: Nintex on February 05, 2022, 10:35:13 AM
Post by: Tasty on February 05, 2022, 10:45:18 AM
(https://i.redd.it/3h4llaqzg0g81.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/cZedL9D.jpg)
"I can't believe it. The system works."
Post by: Himu on February 05, 2022, 10:48:33 AM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 05, 2022, 10:52:01 AM
Post by: team filler on February 05, 2022, 02:12:05 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 05, 2022, 03:11:23 PM
:brain
Post by: team filler on February 05, 2022, 03:15:54 PM
Post by: Nintex on February 05, 2022, 03:23:47 PM
https://twitter.com/TimJDillon/status/1490055351064043523 (https://twitter.com/TimJDillon/status/1490055351064043523)
Fun fact, Alex was right again? The MSM and blue checks just repeat what he said in 2019 when he had a beef with Joe.
https://twitter.com/cultofdusty1/status/1095960021064654849 (https://twitter.com/cultofdusty1/status/1095960021064654849)
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 05, 2022, 03:30:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Bj6KPnym7Q
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alex looks way better there than he does now, and he looks like fucking shit there :titus
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Post by: Himu on February 05, 2022, 03:32:45 PM
https://twitter.com/OccupyDemocrats/status/1489917545305964549
Post by: benjipwns on February 05, 2022, 03:54:21 PM
To my own personal consternation a bunch of these so-called progressive idiots have been regularly tweeting to disappointingly large amounts of approval about how anyone who takes the Fifth is admitting they're guilty, which is a literal position of Donald Trump's:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMyh7ko9L2g
Post by: Nintex on February 05, 2022, 07:02:45 PM
https://twitter.com/krystalball/status/1490019076847980544 (https://twitter.com/krystalball/status/1490019076847980544)
:salute
Post by: benjipwns on February 05, 2022, 09:22:35 PM
Post by: Potato on February 05, 2022, 10:29:47 PM
Joe and his listeners are the types of people who think that rules and laws are for other people to follow and not them.
The average Joe Rogan listener thinks its oppressive for the law to require you to wear a seatbelt in the car and to not allow you to smoke indoors in a public building or restaurant.
A good example of a listener is this guy I know who decided that after listening to Joe Rogan that in 2022, he would only eat the meat of animals that he killed himself. I mean, that's fine, its not difficult to do, but this is a guy who doesn't hunt, has no gun or bow, has no gun licence, does not fish, does not own a fishing rod. He did nothing in 2021 to change those facts and as far as I am aware, in 2022, he has just forgotten that he told everyone that he was planning this whole thing this year.
Post by: Himu on February 05, 2022, 10:32:09 PM
https://jacobinmag.com/2022/01/joe-rogan-podcast-covid-misinformation-cdc-media
Lmfao uniting the far right, center right, moderates, socialists AND communists against you in one swoop. Get fucked and burn in hell.
Post by: team filler on February 05, 2022, 11:36:06 PM
Post by: Uncle on February 06, 2022, 12:25:18 AM
Joe Rogan is an idiot and the only people I know who listen to his show are complete idiots.
Joe and his listeners are the types of people who think that rules and laws are for other people to follow and not them.
The average Joe Rogan listener thinks its oppressive for the law to require you to wear a seatbelt in the car and to not allow you to smoke indoors in a public building or restaurant.
A good example of a listener is this guy I know who decided that after listening to Joe Rogan that in 2022, he would only eat the meat of animals that he killed himself. I mean, that's fine, its not difficult to do, but this is a guy who doesn't hunt, has no gun or bow, has no gun licence, does not fish, does not own a fishing rod. He did nothing in 2021 to change those facts and as far as I am aware, in 2022, he has just forgotten that he told everyone that he was planning this whole thing this year.
you say this as if every episode is all about questioning well-established scientific facts or laws
he's done so many episodes with so many random guests about so many topics that it's pretty closed-minded to pigeonhole all his content based on a couple modern hot button covid takes
I'm not a "joe rogan listener" but I've randomly clicked on a few over the years and I haven't been disappointed
sometimes it's a comedian and they're just bullshitting about the good old days at the comedy store
sometimes it's a controversial figure telling their story, or a philosopher philosophizing, sometimes it's shit but sometimes it's interesting and often joe just lets his guest talk and offer their perspective
I remember listening to the James Damore one, the guy fired from Google for allegedly being anti-diversity, and it was really interesting, he just told his side of the story
he clearly wasn't a normally social guy and wasn't used to being a public figure but joe was encouraging to him, just to talk and share his experiences, and there was nothing objectionable about it
Post by: Himu on February 06, 2022, 01:59:25 AM
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 06, 2022, 02:07:07 AM
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on February 06, 2022, 05:16:03 AM
Holy shit, who gives a fuck?
Post by: Nintex on February 06, 2022, 06:43:26 AM
Joe Rogan is not the first, they've tried it with many comedians. Once Rogan falls, so does Chapelle, once Chapelle falls so does Jon Stewart.
Let's say the new norm becomes that the n-word can no longer be used in context. You lose most Tarantino movies and god knows how many rap songs.
Once that's done they will try to do the same with other "offensive" words, like cunt, asshole, fuck, male, female etc. .
One side is perfectly fine with such sweeping censorship. They've displayed it time and time again and they keep lowering the bar.
I support Whoopi going back on The View and James Gunn making his movies as much as I support Joe Rogan to interview whoever he wants about what he wants.
COVID was a thing he talks about because it's part of current events but as someone else already pointed out very little on his show is about COVID or vaccines.
I much rather have Whoopi going on the Joe Rogan Experience to get her take on more of history than censoring them both.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 06, 2022, 07:08:01 AM
pertinent
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on February 06, 2022, 07:23:37 AM
Everyone who cares about free speech.
Joe Rogan is not the first, they've tried it with many comedians. Once Rogan falls, so does Chapelle, once Chapelle falls so does Jon Stewart.
Let's say the new norm becomes that the n-word can no longer be used in context. You lose most Tarantino movies and god knows how many rap songs.
Once that's done they will try to do the same with other "offensive" words, like cunt, asshole, fuck, male, female etc. .
One side is perfectly fine with such sweeping censorship. They've displayed it time and time again and they keep lowering the bar.
I support Whoopi going back on The View and James Gunn making his movies as much as I support Joe Rogan to interview whoever he wants about what he wants.
COVID was a thing he talks about because it's part of current events but as someone else already pointed out very little on his show is about COVID or vaccines.
I much rather have Whoopi going on the Joe Rogan Experience to get her take on more of history than censoring them both.
imagine thinking someone protected by the Red, the Black, and the Green, is gonna fall because of pasty as white nationalist rogan
Post by: team filler on February 06, 2022, 10:43:28 AM
https://youtu.be/arTXw60SD8o:mynicca
pertinent
Post by: tiesto on February 06, 2022, 01:02:27 PM
Joe Rogan has fans across the political aisle. No one listens to Joe for Joe. We listen for the guests who often have amazing stories. I know people from the far right all the way to full on socialists that listen to Joe regularly. Lmao this entire thing has the entire political compass uniting against the corporate media and Do Nothing Dems. Even has fucking Jacobin defending Joe.
https://jacobinmag.com/2022/01/joe-rogan-podcast-covid-misinformation-cdc-media
Lmfao uniting the far right, center right, moderates, socialists AND communists against you in one swoop. Get fucked and burn in hell.
That's a good article. I'm sick of antivaxxer misinformation but censoring this guy won't do shit, only add fuel to the antivaxxer fire - "OH THEY'RE CENSORING HIM FOR SPEAKING THE TRUTH!". And he'll end up on a different platform anyways, there's plenty "conservative friendly" platforms out there or other platforms who don't give a damn and will jump at the chance to host him for the revenue he'll bring in.
Neoliberalism, a growing distrust in institutions (which I'd argue started when "the experts" fucked around with mortgages and caused the economic crash of last decade), the working class vs professional class lifestyle bubbles, confusing mixed-messaging by the CDC/Fauci/WHO/etc, plenty of grifters taking advantage of the pandemic to sell "wellness" regimens or vitamins/supplements... have done more to cultivate the antivaxxer mentality than an MMA guy talking about ivermectin ever could.
Post by: benjipwns on February 06, 2022, 02:01:20 PM
Everyone who cares about free speech.Are you saying that boycotts should be censored?
Joe Rogan is not the first, they've tried it with many comedians. Once Rogan falls, so does Chapelle, once Chapelle falls so does Jon Stewart.
Let's say the new norm becomes that the n-word can no longer be used in context. You lose most Tarantino movies and god knows how many rap songs.
Once that's done they will try to do the same with other "offensive" words, like cunt, asshole, fuck, male, female etc. .
One side is perfectly fine with such sweeping censorship. They've displayed it time and time again and they keep lowering the bar.
I support Whoopi going back on The View and James Gunn making his movies as much as I support Joe Rogan to interview whoever he wants about what he wants.
COVID was a thing he talks about because it's part of current events but as someone else already pointed out very little on his show is about COVID or vaccines.
I much rather have Whoopi going on the Joe Rogan Experience to get her take on more of history than censoring them both.
Post by: benjipwns on February 06, 2022, 03:21:01 PM
Quote from: https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2022/02/06/joe-rogan-spotify-covid-death/
Rogan’s non-apology made me furious. Probably because I’ve been spending a lot of time this week thinking about Miguel Rodriguez, a former colleague of mine, who died of covid last week.:dead
Miggy, as everyone called him, was only 47 — a beloved and well-respected reporter at the Buffalo News, where he covered high school sports. As one News colleague wrote this week, he was a ubiquitous community presence, with a “booming laugh that would fill a room — even when that room was a high school gymnasium.”
He was overweight and asthmatic; in other words, very much at risk. And he was unvaccinated.
I don’t know for sure whether getting vaccination and booster shots would have saved Miggy’s life. And I have no idea whether he had ever listened to Joe Rogan’s podcast, or what his precise reasons were for not being vaccinated.
...
One thing that requires no imagination is that Miguel’s funeral is Tuesday morning. His younger sister misses him, her father told me, and doesn’t yet realize that her big brother is never coming back.
Post by: benjipwns on February 06, 2022, 03:22:25 PM
twitter.com/donwinslow/status/1489741351935627266https://twitter.com/wokal_distance/status/1490141884546576384
why does this keep happening :doge
Post by: Transhuman on February 06, 2022, 04:28:20 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 06, 2022, 04:37:58 PM
Pretty sure the guy using that sort of language in the book isn't supposed to be a hero.Intent doesn't matter. Stop defending and excusing white supremacy.
Post by: Nintex on February 06, 2022, 04:38:43 PM
Post by: team filler on February 06, 2022, 05:29:33 PM
Pretty sure the guy using that sort of language in the book isn't supposed to be a hero.https://twitter.com/DavidDTSS/status/1489993973439647746
Post by: Himu on February 06, 2022, 05:36:53 PM
twitter.com/donwinslow/status/1489741351935627266https://twitter.com/wokal_distance/status/1490141884546576384
why does this keep happening :doge
:dead
Post by: Uncle on February 06, 2022, 06:04:20 PM
Pretty sure the guy using that sort of language in the book isn't supposed to be a hero.
every single time joe said it he was reading a passage from that book and just quoting the guy
Post by: Propagandhim on February 06, 2022, 07:10:30 PM
Post by: Transhuman on February 06, 2022, 07:24:55 PM
Post by: Potato on February 06, 2022, 08:11:19 PM
https://twitter.com/Sulliview/status/1490301540262985728 (https://twitter.com/Sulliview/status/1490301540262985728)What a fucking bitch. Don't use your "friend's" death to go all :social :social2 :egoQuote from: https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2022/02/06/joe-rogan-spotify-covid-death/Rogan’s non-apology made me furious. Probably because I’ve been spending a lot of time this week thinking about Miguel Rodriguez, a former colleague of mine, who died of covid last week.:dead
Miggy, as everyone called him, was only 47 — a beloved and well-respected reporter at the Buffalo News, where he covered high school sports. As one News colleague wrote this week, he was a ubiquitous community presence, with a “booming laugh that would fill a room — even when that room was a high school gymnasium.”
He was overweight and asthmatic; in other words, very much at risk. And he was unvaccinated.
I don’t know for sure whether getting vaccination and booster shots would have saved Miggy’s life. And I have no idea whether he had ever listened to Joe Rogan’s podcast, or what his precise reasons were for not being vaccinated.
...
One thing that requires no imagination is that Miguel’s funeral is Tuesday morning. His younger sister misses him, her father told me, and doesn’t yet realize that her big brother is never coming back.
Post by: Himu on February 06, 2022, 08:38:08 PM
:sabu
Post by: Tasty on February 06, 2022, 08:39:27 PM
Post by: Nintex on February 07, 2022, 12:43:27 PM
Portnoy talked to the ringleaders of the cancel mob. It got real awkward once he uncovered they used the n-word.
They say Dave lied and then he name drops the fiancee of one of these clowns.
https://twitter.com/bscomedian/status/1490415478182854657 (https://twitter.com/bscomedian/status/1490415478182854657)
Rumble Video has offered Joe $100 million
https://twitter.com/rumblevideo/status/1490718158449172481 (https://twitter.com/rumblevideo/status/1490718158449172481)
This really is the Stalingrad of the Culture war. The cancel mob has entered the city, they've been unable to capture it and now they're trapped and being encircled until they are ultimately destroyed.
https://twitter.com/TimJDillon/status/1490750673436266497 (https://twitter.com/TimJDillon/status/1490750673436266497)
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 07, 2022, 01:51:17 PM
last I checked he was a massive Jeremy Corbyn guy :girlaff
Post by: Uncle on February 07, 2022, 01:53:31 PM
and maybe if reality has a left leaning bias, entertaining trainwrecks have a right leaning bias? maybe leftness correlates with sterile, joyless moralism that doesn't have anything worthwhile to say on a podcast? I mean look at his "left wing" guests, they're all either comedians or interesting people
Post by: Transhuman on February 07, 2022, 02:20:25 PM
on what planet is Russell Brand a right winger?
last I checked he was a massive Jeremy Corbyn guy :girlaff
http://www.thewrap.com/russell-brand-right-wing-conspiracy-videos-reactions/
With someone like Brand it's hard to tell if it's drug related brain damage or if he simply felt like his fame was waning and wanted to see his name in the news. Covid broke a lot of people
Post by: Potato on February 07, 2022, 02:29:46 PM
on what planet is Russell Brand a right winger?Russell Brand is a massive fuckwit, but he's certainly no right wing fuckwit.
last I checked he was a massive Jeremy Corbyn guy :girlaff
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 07, 2022, 02:52:34 PM
on what planet is Russell Brand a right winger?
last I checked he was a massive Jeremy Corbyn guy :girlaff
http://www.thewrap.com/russell-brand-right-wing-conspiracy-videos-reactions/
With someone like Brand it's hard to tell if it's drug related brain damage or if he simply felt like his fame was waning and wanted to see his name in the news. Covid broke a lot of people
enjoying a good conspiracy or two isn't an exclusive right wing thing tbh
Post by: Nintex on February 07, 2022, 02:52:41 PM
:hesright
Post by: Himu on February 07, 2022, 03:01:23 PM
Post by: Transhuman on February 07, 2022, 03:11:46 PM
Post by: Nintex on February 07, 2022, 04:02:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2LHbYTJV9g
More support for Joe and explainers of what's really going on.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on February 07, 2022, 04:11:04 PM
on what planet is Russell Brand a right winger?
last I checked he was a massive Jeremy Corbyn guy :girlaff
http://www.thewrap.com/russell-brand-right-wing-conspiracy-videos-reactions/
With someone like Brand it's hard to tell if it's drug related brain damage or if he simply felt like his fame was waning and wanted to see his name in the news. Covid broke a lot of people
brand has always been an insufferable prick
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 07, 2022, 04:13:01 PM
Post by: james on February 07, 2022, 04:31:41 PM
Ive been boycotting Starbucks since they declared was on Christmas but does that make me part of the cancel culture mob?
Post by: Nintex on February 07, 2022, 05:06:14 PM
TBF I bet krystal and saager are up there with Jimmy Dore and co wanking themselves silly hoping Rogan leaves Spotify and goes to/sets up a YouTube alternative :trumpshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N12cBUC7mBE
That's more what Jorp and friends are thinking about, Rogan and Peter Thiel teaming up to create a social media channel funded by Elon Musk. :doge
Post by: james on February 07, 2022, 05:45:49 PM
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From the very beginning this (2010) this subreddit has been moderated with a hands-off approach because we treat it like it belongs to you, the users, and not us the moderators. Joe is a free speech advocate, and we are too.
*one line later*
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You absolutely do not have to agree with Joe here but if your sole purpose for participating is to “cancel” Joe, we’d ask that you find somewhere else to do it. r/joerogan is not your soapbox.
I guess some speech is freer than other
Post by: benjipwns on February 08, 2022, 11:01:49 AM
https://twitter.com/TimJDillon/status/1490750673436266497 (https://twitter.com/TimJDillon/status/1490750673436266497)Roseanne Barr, Tulsi Gabbard, Sam Harris, Steven Pinker, Michael Shermer, the Weinstein morons and Elon Musk are apparently "right-wing" now.
This reply to that guy seems appropriate:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLAqyxWXsAEr9T1?format=jpg&name=small)
Post by: benjipwns on February 08, 2022, 11:27:31 AM
https://twitter.com/IonaItalia/status/1490028857776381954
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLFKDAhXwAYNAD-?format=jpg&name=small)
https://twitter.com/MaxBoot/status/1490891399151054849
Post by: benjipwns on February 08, 2022, 11:59:21 AM
https://twitter.com/feministabulous/status/1490552766715949058
https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1490630163901521920
https://twitter.com/Mediaite/status/1490852886028427264
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FK9VQMDWYAAiO6u?format=jpg&name=small)
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1490891089019998211
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on February 08, 2022, 12:22:27 PM
Congress?
Post by: benjipwns on February 08, 2022, 12:38:23 PM
Post by: team filler on February 08, 2022, 03:32:41 PM
rogan was paying thousands for a T1 line back in the news radio days so he could gayme it up. he's probably been a net junkie since back then too.
Post by: team filler on February 08, 2022, 03:34:51 PM
Post by: Nintex on February 08, 2022, 04:09:31 PM
Russell brand responds to being called Right Wing.
Post by: BIONIC on February 08, 2022, 04:38:38 PM
Post by: Transhuman on February 08, 2022, 04:39:34 PM
All in all, I wish the world could go back to a time where Joe Rogan was never mentioned outside of comedy shows
How about even further back than this?
Post by: james on February 08, 2022, 05:26:09 PM
All in all, I wish the world could go back to a time where Joe Rogan was never mentioned outside of comedy shows
How about even further back than this?
Back to the 80s you say?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1IIrFa286I
Post by: Potato on February 08, 2022, 05:33:42 PM
https://twitter.com/badiucao/status/1490505728049643523 (https://twitter.com/badiucao/status/1490505728049643523)Guy making art about Chinese oppression about to experience some Chinese-style oppression.
Post by: naff on February 08, 2022, 05:47:33 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 08, 2022, 06:08:55 PM
incendiary imagery in a period where you know, there's been a lot of instances of anti asian violence because of people blaming them for covid.Don't think there was ever any proof of this at all. Were there even any single examples of crimes with COVID as the motive? I know the one "study" that Stop AAPI Hate circulated counted things like statements and tweets as instances of "violence" and that included everything not just COVID related statements. Then the news cycle moved on and I don't recall any other sources beyond that though I admit I don't follow the issue.
But still it seems a little implausible to say there's a legitimate concern that Asian students would be literally attacked by other students due to posters with criticism of China associated with the Olympics. Yet another campus leaning towards a kneejerk silencing of any criticism of China seems far more plausible than the president "not understanding" it.
Post by: naff on February 08, 2022, 06:25:52 PM
Post by: Nintex on February 08, 2022, 06:29:26 PM
Post by: naff on February 08, 2022, 06:32:47 PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56218684
Post by: benjipwns on February 08, 2022, 07:14:42 PM
took all of 2 seconds to google a summaryBut that's just the same problem again, not support for the claim that hate crimes increased due to COVID nor that they continue to be higher due to COVID justifying constant alert status against criticism of Chinese government actions:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56218684
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Federal hate crime data for 2020 has not yet been released, though hate crimes in 2019 were at their highest level in over a decade.
And the actual source of the article goes back to the aforementioned groups questionable survey:
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The advocacy group Stop AAPI Hate said it received more than 2,800 reports of hate incidents directed at Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders nationwide last year. The group set up its online self-reporting tool at the start of the pandemic.Where even they admit 90+% of self-reported events were "verbal harassment" or "shunning or avoidance" and up to another 6% can include "coughing":
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coughing/spitting comprised 6.4%.
○ Verbal harassment made up 70.9% of incidents; shunning or avoidance comprised 21.4%
Post by: naff on February 08, 2022, 07:24:06 PM
at the end of the day, they took down a few posters, sought clarification then apologized ffs. this is nothing. as i said, a storm in a teacup.
Post by: benjipwns on February 08, 2022, 07:34:36 PM
Post by: naff on February 08, 2022, 07:52:09 PM
whether it's a good response or not is beside the point. it's just the environment we live in, and an org like a school trying not to foster rhetoric that alienates a group like reacting to an image that shows someone from china bowling covid intentionally into the world surrounded by atrocities their gov committed is not that hard to understand.
Post by: benjipwns on February 08, 2022, 07:53:37 PM
Post by: naff on February 08, 2022, 07:54:29 PM
Post by: Transhuman on February 08, 2022, 08:03:56 PM
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on February 08, 2022, 09:22:29 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 09, 2022, 01:37:20 PM
Post by: Nintex on February 09, 2022, 01:40:32 PM
https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1491434978730811394 (https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1491434978730811394)
Post by: Tasty on February 09, 2022, 01:50:40 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 09, 2022, 04:18:12 PM
Post by: Himu on February 09, 2022, 04:40:51 PM
https://twitter.com/CalebHowe/status/1491505847184334851
:crowdlaff
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 09, 2022, 04:51:54 PM
:info
Post by: benjipwns on February 09, 2022, 05:20:23 PM
some idiot is gonna end up taking a shot at :roganSelf-defense against COVID misinformation and insurrection. Not guilty.
Next case.
Post by: benjipwns on February 09, 2022, 05:54:42 PM
Post by: BisMarckie on February 09, 2022, 05:56:48 PM
Post by: Himu on February 09, 2022, 06:09:14 PM
https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1491520306036543496
My woman uses yellow and she's very cognizant of white privilege. Lol what
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 09, 2022, 06:29:04 PM
don't academics have more important things to think about?
Post by: BisMarckie on February 09, 2022, 06:30:13 PM
don't academics have more important things to think about?
lol
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 09, 2022, 06:31:20 PM
Post by: Nintex on February 09, 2022, 06:34:10 PM
https://twitter.com/CalebHowe/status/1491505847184334851I told you this was the Stalingrad of the culture war. They're now trapped in the city, the relief force is stranded and they are doomed.
Against all odds and despite throwing everything they had into the battle the Joe Rogan Experience did not fall.
One has to wonder if CNN will still be around to cover the 2024 elections.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 09, 2022, 06:36:55 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 09, 2022, 07:20:37 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 09, 2022, 07:30:41 PM
https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/989165838803517440
Post by: Nintex on February 09, 2022, 08:07:48 PM
Rogan content is probably bringing them their best numbers since Trump, they need a new bastardman to froth over :kermitThe problem with CNN is that it has no entertainment value (unlike for example Tucker, which according to the latest ratings is now the most popular TV show among Democrats even).
You see this clip and you don't want to watch the whole thing. However, when you see a clip of a Fox News wank dad interviewing the anti-work Reddit mod, you must see the whole thing.
Post by: Potato on February 09, 2022, 09:31:59 PM
Rogan content is probably bringing them their best numbers since Trump, they need a new bastardman to froth over :kermitThe problem with CNN is that it has no entertainment value (unlike for example Tucker, which according to the latest ratings is now the most popular TV show among Democrats even).
You see this clip and you don't want to watch the whole thing. However, when you see a clip of a Fox News wank dad interviewing the anti-work Reddit mod, you must see the whole thing.
This should accompany the definition of the term "content".
Post by: team filler on February 09, 2022, 09:33:29 PM
https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1491520306036543496:like
Post by: benjipwns on February 09, 2022, 10:17:03 PM
One has to wonder if CNN will still be around to cover the 2024 elections.Not really sure why you would think they wouldn't be.
Post by: benjipwns on February 09, 2022, 11:48:11 PM
Post by: Nintex on February 12, 2022, 07:16:04 AM
https://twitter.com/VigilantFox/status/1492210731911163909 (https://twitter.com/VigilantFox/status/1492210731911163909)
:rejoice
Post by: bork on February 12, 2022, 09:39:01 AM
One has to wonder if CNN will still be around to cover the 2024 elections.
:whatisthis
Post by: bork on February 12, 2022, 09:44:35 AM
Rogan content is probably bringing them their best numbers since Trump, they need a new bastardman to froth over :kermitThe problem with CNN is that it has no entertainment value (unlike for example Tucker, which according to the latest ratings is now the most popular TV show among Democrats even).
You see this clip and you don't want to watch the whole thing. However, when you see a clip of a Fox News wank dad interviewing the anti-work Reddit mod, you must see the whole thing.
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/who-is-the-most-watched-host-in-all-of-cable-news-for-young-democrats-tucker-carlson/
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According to the party-line data, gathered in the month of October, Tucker Carlson is the number-one watched host among Democrats in the key 25-54 age demographic – across all networks. For that month, Carlson pulled in an average of 101,000 Democrats in the demo. The Rachel Maddow Show and The Five tied for second – each pulling in 88,000 demo viewers that identify as Democrats.
More stunning still is the fact that Sean Hannity and Greg Gutfeld round out the top five with 81,000 and 73,000 Democrats in the demo, respectively.
In terms of total viewers, Fox has three of the top five shows watched by Democrats, while MSNBC has the other two.
Seems like pretty low numbers (of democrats), and while Tucker is definitely dominating the cable network TV ratings with an average of 2.4, those ratings are being trounced by everything on prime broadcast TV and a lot of the shows in syndication.
https://www.nielsen.com/us/en/top-ten/
I would imagine quite a lot of the 'younger' crowd aren't watching cable TV in general anyway and their streaming service coverage seems to be done by minutes, covering only non-live shows.
Post by: bork on February 12, 2022, 09:53:41 AM
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LOSERS
News and Opinion Networks
What a difference a year makes. Last year, the newsies were among the winners. This year, with no bombastic election cycle, and with COVID-19 coverage not as prevalent as it was before vaccines were developed, the major news channels and opinion networks faced deep dips in 2021. That goes for Fox News (down 34%, although still tops in cable), MSNBC (-28%) and CNN (-38%). Business channels experienced similar slumps: Fox Business Network was down 48%, while CNBC was off 13%. The one exception to this trend, apparently, is right-wing Newsmax, which increased 48% (granted, from low marks to begin with), and we could say why that might be — but, c’mon, you know whose cult-like fan base is looking for like-minded “news” content.
Post by: Nintex on February 12, 2022, 06:51:48 PM
I would imagine quite a lot of the 'younger' crowd aren't watching cable TV in general anyway and their streaming service coverage seems to be done by minutes, covering only non-live shows.That's right, they're listening to the Joe Rogan Experience and a bunch of crypto monkey salesmen 8)
https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1492423498928726019 (https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1492423498928726019)
Manstein could see the outskirts of Stalingrad but had to turn back. He radio'd Paulus: "We shall fight to honor your sacrifice but we cannot save you".
The 6th Armee was doomed and could soon no longer be supplied from the air.
Joe Rogan will close the pocket through corpo focus groups, CNN's destruction will be slow but very painful. The Clown News Network is done.
Post by: Nintex on February 13, 2022, 09:55:02 AM
CNN agrees that this is the Stalingrad, 9/11 and January 6th of the Culture War. 8)
They just don't realize that they play the role of the doomed 6th Army, the twin towers on fire after the first plane hit and Nancy Pelosi's laptop
Post by: team filler on February 13, 2022, 10:26:20 AM
Post by: Nintex on February 13, 2022, 10:38:16 AM
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What triggered the violence in part were the messages that came from people in positions of power in Rwanda. Many, like Rogan, had a public megaphone and an audience.
[...]
[...]Influential radio stations broadcast a powerful, persuasive and constantly repeating message urging listeners to join killing squads and organize roadblocks," Konnikova wrote.
Genocide is a worst-case scenario. But we don't have to look as far as Rwanda to see how quickly civic norms can change when people in power start lowering standards.
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Rogan's use of the n-word may also be drawing us closer to something else: destroying any plausible shot at building a genuine multiracial democracy.
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Don't let the Rogan n-word controversy devolve into another tired discussion about cancel culture. This moment is bigger. If Rogan goes on with business as usual, all of us -- not just Black people -- will pay a price. Our country won't be the same.
:doge
Allowing Joe Rogan to make podcasts will lead to genocide - CNN
Post by: bork on February 13, 2022, 12:25:12 PM
I would imagine quite a lot of the 'younger' crowd aren't watching cable TV in general anyway and their streaming service coverage seems to be done by minutes, covering only non-live shows.That's right, they're listening to the Joe Rogan Experience and a bunch of crypto monkey salesmen 8)
Yeah, I agree with this, clown-dialogue choice of word aside. :doge
Joe Rogan will close the pocket through corpo focus groups, CNN's destruction will be slow but very painful. The Clown News Network is done.
But this is ridiculous.
Post by: benjipwns on February 13, 2022, 06:01:44 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 13, 2022, 06:19:01 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLUqXgKXwAUYRNU?format=png&name=900x900)
Post by: Himu on February 13, 2022, 07:55:48 PM
Post by: Nintex on February 14, 2022, 05:22:11 AM
Post by: benjipwns on February 14, 2022, 05:12:21 PM
Post by: tiesto on February 14, 2022, 08:12:21 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLUqL4IX0AknspM?format=png&name=900x900)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLUqXgKXwAUYRNU?format=png&name=900x900)
Thought that was the guy from the ambient legends, The Orb.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-EiHIZF8d4
Post by: Nintex on February 15, 2022, 09:03:16 AM
https://twitter.com/business/status/1493577930617802756 (https://twitter.com/business/status/1493577930617802756)
Post by: team filler on February 15, 2022, 09:22:50 AM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 15, 2022, 09:30:45 AM
Post by: james on February 15, 2022, 02:40:13 PM
Post by: team filler on February 15, 2022, 02:49:07 PM
What happened to the truckers shutting down the super bowlthey couldn't block donald either tbh
Post by: benjipwns on February 15, 2022, 03:04:05 PM
Quote from: https://www.axios.com/peter-thiel-conservative-dating-app-the-rightstuff-0ddffa1e-7296-4279-81c7-8d5eb3c75608.html
Peter Thiel is injecting $1.5 million into a seed round for a new conservative dating app called "The Right Stuff," a source familiar with the funding tells Axios.
The big picture: Conservatives have been aggressively building their own apps, phones, cryptocurrencies and publishing houses in an attempt to circumvent what they see as an increasingly liberal internet and media ecosystem.
Details: The app, which is expected to launch this summer in Washington D.C., will be invite-only to start.
While it isn't political itself, the app will be catered to conservatives living primarily in big, progressive cities.
It will look and feel like any other standard dating app. For the time being, it will only launch on the iOS mobile operating system.
The app will be free for users to start, but eventually the company plans to introduce a subscription tier.
Post by: Nintex on February 16, 2022, 12:19:59 PM
:info
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 16, 2022, 12:21:48 PM
Post by: Tasty on February 16, 2022, 12:31:58 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 16, 2022, 12:32:29 PM
Quote from: https://www.axios.com/peter-thiel-conservative-dating-app-the-rightstuff-0ddffa1e-7296-4279-81c7-8d5eb3c75608.htmlPeter Thiel is injecting $1.5 million into a seed round for a new conservative dating app called "The Right Stuff," a source familiar with the funding tells Axios.
The big picture: Conservatives have been aggressively building their own apps, phones, cryptocurrencies and publishing houses in an attempt to circumvent what they see as an increasingly liberal internet and media ecosystem.
Details: The app, which is expected to launch this summer in Washington D.C., will be invite-only to start.
While it isn't political itself, the app will be catered to conservatives living primarily in big, progressive cities.
It will look and feel like any other standard dating app. For the time being, it will only launch on the iOS mobile operating system.
The app will be free for users to start, but eventually the company plans to introduce a subscription tier.
Looking for women on The Right Stuff. :nope
Looking for women at RightStuf Anime. :uguu
Post by: benjipwns on February 17, 2022, 04:11:56 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 17, 2022, 05:11:45 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 17, 2022, 09:26:54 PM
Quote from: https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2022-02-16/bryan-cranston-interview-power-of-sail-geffen-playhouse
Cranston is telling me why he chose to step away from an offer to direct a show at L.A.’s Geffen Playhouse and how that decision led him to take the role of Charles Nichols in the theater’s West Coast premiere of “Power of Sail,” written by Paul Grellong and directed by Weyni Mengesha, running through March 20.
As Nichols, Cranston plays an aging, highly respected Harvard professor who faces intense backlash for inviting a white nationalist and Holocaust denier named Carver to speak at his annual symposium. As student protests intensify, Nichols presses forward, claiming his intention is to give Carver and his repugnant ideas a thorough dressing down in a debate.
An avowed “free-speech absolutist,” Nichols says, “The answer to hate speech is more speech.”
“Power of Sail” had its world premiere in 2019 at the Warehouse Theatre in Greenville, S.C., but Cranston believes the play gained resonance in the wake of the pandemic and the social and racial justice uprisings following the murder of George Floyd.
As those occurrences shook the world, they also transformed Cranston, who says in these troubling years he came face to face with his own “white blindness” and privilege. It was necessary work for a man tasked with playing a character whose white privilege prevents him from seeing the very real harm caused by his actions until it is much too late.
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“It is a privileged viewpoint to be able to look at the Ku Klux Klan and laugh at them and belittle them for their broken and hateful ideology,” says Cranston. “But the Ku Klux Klan and Charlottesville and white supremacists — that’s still happening and it’s not funny. It’s not funny to any group that is marginalized by these groups’ hatred, and it really taught me something.”
Cranston says he had been laughing at the play for decades and he had to confront the fact that his white privilege allowed him to laugh.
“And I realized, ‘Oh my God, if there’s one, there’s two, and if there’s two, there are 20 blind spots that I have … what else am I blind to?” Cranston says. “If we’re taking up space with a very palatable play from the 1980s where rich old white people can laugh at white supremacists and say, ‘Shame on you,’ and have a good night in the theater, things need to change, I need to change.”
So he stepped aside, telling Shakman, “If you find a play that you need an old white guy to act in, then maybe I can be available for that.”
Cranston also stipulated that he wanted to be a part of “something that changes the conversation.” In his estimation, the measure of success in theater is always “Does the conversation continue after the play is over?”
For Cranston, “Power of Sail” meets that criterion with its pointed critique of America’s devotion to the primacy of free speech.
The play asks if there should be limits to free speech, and if so, why? It tests the boundaries of the free speech ideal by examining the traditional arbiters of that speech — those who get to decide whose voice is lifted and whose voice is quashed. It suggests the existence of a moral compass in an age when truth is often called relative by special-interest groups opposed to it.
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Popper’s idea is that if a society — in pursuit of tolerance without limits — tolerates the intolerant, the latter will eventually destroy that society.This is not Popper, who didn't believe the paradox of tolerance demanded the state suppress speech and specifically argued against that, it's Marcuse who very much advocated that the state violently suppress (including with prior restraint) all speech that didn't benefit the "Left" however defined: https://www.marcuse.org/herbert/publications/1960s/1965-repressive-tolerance-fulltext.html
Cranston is taken with the theory and leans forward in his chair while discussing it.
“There need to be barriers, there need to be guard rails,” he says. “If someone wants to say the Holocaust was a hoax, which is against history … to give a person space to amplify that speech is not tolerance. It’s abusive.”
That’s certainly how the protesting students in the play feel, but Nichols dismisses them as “babies” who can “never know offense, never be challenged.” They wouldn’t last a day in the 1960s or ’70s, he scoffs. He is baffled by the idea of “safe space meets” after he is invited to one by Hillel and the Black Students Assn.
Similar debates have played out on college campuses for years now, and “Power of Sail” throws the inherent generational divide of these disagreements into stark relief. Cranston recognized the hallmarks of his own generation — and its many limitations — in Nichols’ words. The role caused him to begin reexamining his beliefs.
“What is safe? Well, emotionally safe. Without judgment, safe. All-inclusive, safe. Empathetic, safe. And that’s what gives me hope with new generations,” he says. “Because it’s a beautiful thing to say, ‘We’re all entitled to be who we are without judgment.’”
Post by: BisMarckie on February 17, 2022, 09:32:25 PM
Post by: Uncle on February 17, 2022, 09:39:07 PM
Post by: Himu on February 17, 2022, 09:42:16 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 17, 2022, 09:44:56 PM
(https://miro.medium.com/max/800/1*TnDoAk0BjC7x4OuBISbYCw.jpeg)
Nobody likes to quote the full paragraph though:
Quote from: Karl Popper
Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. — In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be unwise. But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary even by force; for it may easily turn out that they are not prepared to meet us on the level of rational argument, but begin by denouncing all argument; they may forbid their followers to listen to rational argument, because it is deceptive, and teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols. We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant.
Post by: Uncle on February 17, 2022, 10:04:34 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
the one I posted was the rebuttal that has made people angry (https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRightCantMeme/comments/m1y5ne/two_rightwing_variations_of_karl_poppers_paradox/)
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Post by: Nintex on February 18, 2022, 02:58:06 PM
Freedom is now White supremacy
Also, the soy's don't understand that if you write White, instead of white, it actually sounds more cool and important. 8)
Post by: Uncle on February 18, 2022, 03:03:17 PM
Post by: Nintex on February 19, 2022, 09:02:30 AM
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This picture is like from another world. But it's not a different world. It is reality in 2022. This is what the CEO lunch at #MSC2022 looks like. Here is power and here women are missing. We still have a lot to do. Photo via
@MichaelBroecker
As Putin gathered the biggest concentration of force on the doorstep of Ukraine and prepared for war. The feminists made sure to prioritize the issue that mattered most.
That if Putin invaded, at least an equal number of women would be there to provide weapon systems and to sign the inevitable armistice.
Post by: Tasty on February 19, 2022, 11:55:07 AM
https://twitter.com/LevineJonathan/status/1494728833286684673 (https://twitter.com/LevineJonathan/status/1494728833286684673)
Freedom is now White supremacy
Also, the soy's don't understand that if you write White, instead of white, it actually sounds more cool and important. 8)
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/VSfk23fs9xOVy/giphy.gif)
:society
Post by: benjipwns on February 19, 2022, 07:34:41 PM
Post by: Nintex on February 19, 2022, 08:01:59 PM
I kinda enjoy the irony of a Cyberpunk supervising the nuclear waste tbh
Post by: benjipwns on February 19, 2022, 08:05:58 PM
Also:
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They told of one experience how they like to tie up his partner like a table and eat dinner on him while they watch Star Trek.
Post by: Nintex on February 20, 2022, 02:48:14 PM
:cop
Post by: Potato on February 21, 2022, 03:57:47 PM
Quote from: https://theconversation.com/remaking-history-in-hand-making-400-year-old-corset-designs-i-was-able-to-really-understand-how-they-impacted-women-175055
We may never know precisely how a 16th or 17th-century woman felt when she wore a corset, nor exactly recapture her bodily experiences. However, reconstructions can help us to assess how much written sources do or do not reflect the lived experiences of historical women – and go one step further in showing how many myths about early corsets written by men are exaggerations.
Post by: benjipwns on February 23, 2022, 03:19:29 AM
Post by: Tasty on February 23, 2022, 11:30:28 AM
Post by: benjipwns on February 28, 2022, 09:26:04 AM
https://twitter.com/deesnider/status/1497992398491701248
Post by: Potato on February 28, 2022, 04:16:17 PM
Post by: tiesto on February 28, 2022, 11:20:03 PM
Dee Snider has been outsmarting and outclassing obnoxious Karens since the 80s.
You get lots of practice when you live where me and Dee do.
Post by: benjipwns on March 01, 2022, 09:08:34 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 01, 2022, 09:12:26 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMuQt7XVEAEoaFf?format=jpg&name=small)
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1498501640235614209
Post by: benjipwns on March 01, 2022, 10:41:20 PM
https://twitter.com/feliciasonmez/status/1498673655970250755
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/KatDuncanPhoto/status/1498676343332085777
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Post by: BisMarckie on March 01, 2022, 10:46:44 PM
Post by: BisMarckie on March 01, 2022, 10:49:37 PM
This is me getting back at you for making me read that entire CNN article that barely had anything to do with my question :heyman
Post by: benjipwns on March 01, 2022, 10:54:27 PM
Post by: BisMarckie on March 01, 2022, 10:58:05 PM
I came prepared
Post by: chronovore on March 02, 2022, 12:11:49 AM
Post by: benjipwns on March 03, 2022, 12:55:55 PM
https://twitter.com/alessabocchi/status/1498811089676558337
Post by: BisMarckie on March 03, 2022, 01:06:15 PM
Post by: Nintex on March 03, 2022, 03:34:16 PM
:pika
Post by: benjipwns on March 03, 2022, 07:09:14 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 05, 2022, 11:34:51 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 05, 2022, 11:54:23 PM
https://twitter.com/espiers/status/1499969134062354435
Post by: benjipwns on March 07, 2022, 04:46:11 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNQydAeWQAMR-yD?format=png&name=small)
:hmm
Post by: BisMarckie on March 07, 2022, 04:48:39 PM
omg i'm glad i found that thread:
https://twitter.com/espiers/status/1499969134062354435
tfw you can annhilate your opponent with a simple "yes" :klob
Post by: benjipwns on March 09, 2022, 01:25:13 PM
https://twitter.com/MHarroldCTV/status/1501335940580745216
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1501254432058716164
Post by: benjipwns on March 09, 2022, 02:48:03 PM
NBC's source: three people on Twitter.
Post by: team filler on March 09, 2022, 05:17:29 PM
:gaas :ussrcry
Post by: Nintex on March 10, 2022, 04:57:44 AM
Post by: Tuckers Law on March 10, 2022, 10:51:54 AM
https://twitter.com/MusicMagazine/status/1501561340439281671
https://twitter.com/MHarroldCTV/status/1501335940580745216
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1501254432058716164
People are so incredibly distinguished mentally-challenged
Post by: benjipwns on March 14, 2022, 10:46:39 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNyJnTmVUAUvpRd?format=jpg&name=small)
Post by: benjipwns on March 14, 2022, 11:38:33 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNtAmHpVQAEvaxJ?format=jpg&name=small)
Post by: BisMarckie on March 14, 2022, 12:17:03 PM
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/776137560459444244/952949678335463505/lesbians-are-hot-pro-oilsands.png)
Post by: benjipwns on March 14, 2022, 01:48:59 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 14, 2022, 02:41:26 PM
Post by: james on March 15, 2022, 12:27:11 PM
https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1503756757763608581
Post by: Tasty on March 15, 2022, 05:32:43 PM
https://twitter.com/MusicMagazine/status/1501561340439281671
Will stan Tchaikovsky til the end of time 😤
https://youtu.be/VbxgYlcNxE8
:rock
Post by: benjipwns on March 16, 2022, 09:40:38 AM
Post by: benjipwns on March 16, 2022, 09:54:24 AM
Post by: Uncle on March 16, 2022, 11:40:22 AM
Post by: Uncle on March 16, 2022, 11:43:37 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/IfVhJw6.png)
Post by: tiesto on March 17, 2022, 10:49:16 AM
Post by: chronovore on March 17, 2022, 07:58:54 PM
I like how the NY Post video said "iconic look" for Rogan, when in Long Island alone you can't go to the store without running into one short stocky bald Italian guy.
Maybe they meant to include the iconic “I forgot to shave the last three days” look that makes it seem like his head is a porn star’s testicle a week after a wax.
Post by: Tuckers Law on March 17, 2022, 08:26:05 PM
https://twitter.com/MusicMagazine/status/1501561340439281671
Will stan Tchaikovsky til the end of time 😤
https://youtu.be/VbxgYlcNxE8
:rock
His fourth symphony :lawd
Post by: Potato on March 17, 2022, 09:59:56 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 20, 2022, 01:31:46 AM
Post by: Potato on March 20, 2022, 05:03:53 AM
Possibly the most obnoxiously "woke" thing I've ever seen.
Couldn't get more than 10 minutes in before turning it off.
If you want to see how creatively bankrupt Disney can really be, give this a go for 5 minutes. You will not be disappointed.
Quote from: https://www.thewrap.com/cheaper-by-the-dozen-2022-review-disney-plus-gabrielle-union-zach-braff/
How can it be, then, that three proven talents who know how to create first-rate comedies have made one so lacking in laughs? The only excess, in fact, is the shameless parade of blatant product placement — and really, Disney, did you need that money from Cîroc for your family film?
From the first shot, in which we see a prominently placed “Black Lives Matter” poster, it’s clear that the filmmakers intend not just to update but to upgrade this story, modernizing it in a way that is still too rare in studio movies. But in contrast to “Black-ish” and its spin-offs, which make their social and cultural observations through sharp wit and insight, “Cheaper by the Dozen” talks over, past, and down to its primary audience.
Just like the product placement, the many frank discussions of privilege, race, and racism are laid atop the movie rather than woven into it. The comic setups are as old as the original source material. Frenetic pacing substitutes for entertainment.
Quote from: https://www.slashfilm.com/800193/cheaper-by-the-dozen-review-an-overstuffed-pilot-episode-pretending-to-be-a-movie/
This "Cheaper by the Dozen" does not hesitate to name-check the concept of white privilege, or to show that this film's family is outwardly liberal (with a Black Lives Matter sign plastered on one of their windows, or pets named after former President Barack Obama and current president Joe Biden).
Post by: Potato on March 20, 2022, 03:00:56 PM
Question:Family movie night (not my choice) and I didn't know it was a remake.
Why were you watching a Cheaper By The Dozen reboot in 2022 and what were you expecting
Post by: james on March 20, 2022, 05:52:08 PM
Post by: Polident Hive on March 21, 2022, 08:40:13 AM
Post by: Nintex on March 23, 2022, 09:15:13 AM
Post by: benjipwns on March 24, 2022, 02:49:42 AM
:dead :dead :dead :dead
Post by: benjipwns on March 24, 2022, 03:11:52 AM
https://twitter.com/terrelljstarr/status/1506683514443517959
https://twitter.com/terrelljstarr/status/1506684263835521027
:what
Post by: Potato on March 24, 2022, 04:49:11 AM
Breaking news from Ukraine:So, he's queer, but isn't attracted to men?
https://twitter.com/terrelljstarr/status/1506683514443517959
https://twitter.com/terrelljstarr/status/1506684263835521027
:what
Sounds like he's just trying to stack the deck in the oppression Olympics.
Post by: team filler on March 24, 2022, 04:56:23 AM
Post by: Potato on March 24, 2022, 05:25:41 AM
he said he's queer, not gay :rollsafeThere's a difference?
Post by: Transhuman on March 24, 2022, 05:28:51 AM
:fbm
Post by: team filler on March 24, 2022, 04:01:26 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 25, 2022, 09:34:39 PM
Post by: Potato on March 26, 2022, 07:29:02 PM
https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7nmzk/hogwarts-legacy-imagines-a-harry-potter-without-jk-rowling (https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7nmzk/hogwarts-legacy-imagines-a-harry-potter-without-jk-rowling)
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This is the kind of stuff that’s baked into Harry Potter that becomes impossible to avoid even in Rowling’s absence. If you turn over a rock of Potter lore, you unearth a whole host of problematic worms. Despite the fact that Rowling did not work on Hogwarts Legacy, and despite the fact that Warner Bros. would surely like for Harry Potter to exist in perpetuity apart from its creator, like Star Wars now does, Rowling did in fact write and create this universe, and in many ways it is a reflection of her politics.
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Right now, Rowling’s politics and bigotry are the most visible aspect of her persona. It would be convenient for Warner Bros. if it was possible for Rowling to be separate from the intellectual property that they own, and that is demonstrably quite profitable. But everything eyebrow-raising in Harry Potter came from one source: J.K. Rowling. Harry Potter can’t truly exist without her.
Post by: Nintex on March 26, 2022, 08:18:58 PM
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Asking whether or not these creatures are intended to be anti-semitic is kind of pointless when, well, look at them.:dead
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the Shrieking Shack podcast:dead
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you can’t read Harry Potter without tripping over her ideas about femininity and gender (for a start):dead
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are they going to do something like slap a character creator into the game that lets you choose pronouns, and market that as a ‘Love Wins!’ type of thing, while the author is also out there doing material harm:dead
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the sanctioned slavery of the house elves:dead
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the only canonical gay person also canonically fell in love with wizard Hitler and never loved again:dead
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Rowling’s politics and bigotry are the most visible aspect of her persona:dead
:dead :dead :dead :dead :dead :dead :dead :dead :dead :dead :dead :dead :dead :dead :dead :dead :dead :dead
Post by: Potato on March 26, 2022, 10:49:25 PM
It is very much in the line of, "I always knew something was up with her, even while I was sucking her fat hog and fanatically buying all her books and merchandise!"
Post by: team filler on March 27, 2022, 03:37:23 AM
Post by: Potato on March 27, 2022, 04:09:05 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBXTOut2MKoWrong thread filler, but like all things, the Romans were just an inferior copy of the Greeks!Quote“Greeks felt the sexiest body part were the thighs”:hesright
Post by: Transhuman on March 27, 2022, 04:26:44 AM
Post by: Nintex on March 27, 2022, 06:57:46 AM
Richest man in the world asks what he should do. The answer is obvious, buy Twitter Elon
:kermit
Post by: chronovore on March 27, 2022, 08:09:31 PM
Post by: team filler on March 27, 2022, 09:28:27 PM
Post by: james on March 28, 2022, 12:35:20 AM
Will Smith or Chris Rock who is getting cancelled place your bets now
Post by: Potato on March 28, 2022, 06:21:33 AM
:drudge :drudge :drudgeNeither. White people are too scared to make a judgement call and black people give no fucks
Will Smith or Chris Rock who is getting cancelled place your bets now
Post by: tiesto on March 29, 2022, 11:18:39 AM
I enjoyed someone's observation that Elon Musk is a dumb person's version of a smart person. As in "he's smart from where they're sitting." It's like when someone who doesn't speak Japanese tells me my Japanese is really good. Really? How would you know? I could've been reciting a soup recipe for all you know. Musk isn't smart, he's just smarter than they are.
I feel Musk is what happens if you turn a nerdy 13 year old into the richest person in the world overnight.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on March 29, 2022, 11:59:04 AM
:drudge :drudge :drudge
Will Smith or Chris Rock who is getting cancelled place your bets now
Will Smith has the white illuminati behind him and Rock had the Jay Z Green Book.
Neither.
(hopefully white people)
Post by: benjipwns on March 31, 2022, 10:37:51 AM
Post by: Tasty on March 31, 2022, 11:22:01 AM
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1506976388255039493
I used to wonder how people tricked themselves into going along with the Red Scare back in the day. I'm not as curious these days.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on March 31, 2022, 11:40:57 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FPIR1SbWYA4P_tA?format=jpg&name=small)
:salute
Post by: james on March 31, 2022, 12:16:40 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 31, 2022, 12:27:20 PM
So whos winning the war?
America
Post by: Uncle on March 31, 2022, 01:25:52 PM
So whos winning the war?
America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90Y9nCiXYds
Post by: benjipwns on March 31, 2022, 01:43:20 PM
https://twitter.com/AnthonyAbides/status/1509346875299749893
Post by: james on March 31, 2022, 01:53:19 PM
Post by: team filler on March 31, 2022, 02:22:09 PM
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on March 31, 2022, 02:55:04 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 31, 2022, 03:54:28 PM
Post by: Nintex on March 31, 2022, 04:21:09 PM
:wut
Post by: team filler on March 31, 2022, 04:40:12 PM
Post by: james on March 31, 2022, 05:10:16 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/jobs/comments/tjcs83/cant_find_a_job_and_its_killing_me_inside/
Post by: benjipwns on March 31, 2022, 09:35:43 PM
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on March 31, 2022, 09:52:41 PM
Post by: Potato on April 01, 2022, 04:12:38 AM
Found Himus accountHimu is vaccinated. Mental, but vaccinated.
https://www.reddit.com/r/jobs/comments/tjcs83/cant_find_a_job_and_its_killing_me_inside/
Post by: benjipwns on April 03, 2022, 03:48:24 PM
Post by: james on April 08, 2022, 03:22:43 PM
:drudge :drudge :drudgeNeither. White people are too scared to make a judgement call and black people give no fucks
Will Smith or Chris Rock who is getting cancelled place your bets now
Potato destroyed
Will Smith banned from attending the Oscars for 10 years after slapping Chris Rock on stage
Post by: Potato on April 08, 2022, 03:24:32 PM
Cancel culture doesn't exist. I'm sure this ban is just a figment of your imagination:drudge :drudge :drudgeNeither. White people are too scared to make a judgement call and black people give no fucks
Will Smith or Chris Rock who is getting cancelled place your bets now
Potato destroyed
Will Smith banned from attending the Oscars for 10 years after slapping Chris Rock on stage
Post by: benjipwns on April 09, 2022, 07:36:36 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/deesnider/status/1512689911656161280
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Post by: Potato on April 10, 2022, 03:40:47 AM
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 11, 2022, 11:39:59 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/IdDVySK.jpeg)
Post by: Uncle on April 11, 2022, 12:46:24 PM
1. How could he possibly have thought We're Not Gonna Take It as a defense of conservative and traditional values
2. Who the fuck thinks We're Not Gonna Take it is "the perfect song"
:dead
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[Refrain]
Woah-oh-oh
Woah-oh-oh
We're right! (Yeah!)
We're free! (Yeah!)
We'll fight! (Yeah!)
You'll see! (Yeah!)
being on the right and valuing freeze peach :trumps
Post by: Transhuman on April 11, 2022, 01:15:44 PM
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[Refrain]
Woah-oh-oh
Woah-oh-oh
We're right! (Yeah!)
We're free! (Yeah!)
We'll fight! (Yeah!)
You'll see! (Yeah!)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_United_States_Capitol_attack
Post by: benjipwns on April 12, 2022, 02:05:32 PM
Post by: benjipwns on April 13, 2022, 05:01:18 PM
The larger part of the chyron isn't entirely wrong. I'm not sure what the rest of this have to do with Disney's poor stewarding of ESPN though.
Post by: VomKriege on April 17, 2022, 05:53:40 AM
Post by: benjipwns on April 18, 2022, 02:29:12 AM
Quote from: https://nypost.com/2022/04/17/woke-ariz-dei-advocates-falsely-accuse-black-dj-of-wearing-blackface/
Two local diversity advocates in Arizona are taking heat after calling a school district racist for hiring a DJ to perform in black face — but it turns out the DJ was black.
Stuart Rhoden and Jill Lassen — who specialize in Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion — lambasted the Scottsdale Unified School District’s Hopi Elementary PTA for their decision to hire Kim Koko Hunter, 56, a local black DJ, at a charity event.
Both Rhoden and Lassen, who are involved in diversity work in the school district, slammed the school after seeing a picture of Hunter, only to later learn his race, according to the Arizona Daily Independent.
...
But Rhoden, who is an instructor at Arizona State University, did not appear particularly apologetic and posted a side-by-side image of Hunter on Facebook to try to show that the DJ darkened his face even if he is black.
“Let me be clear, a black man, apparently in black face is an entirely different discussion than a White person,” he wrote on Facebook. “However… it seems at the very least he is in darker make-up if not ‘Black face’ or I am completely mistaken and it’s the lighting of the patio.”
Rhoden is a member of the district’s Equity and Inclusion Committee and Lassen is a co-chair of the Scottsdale Parent Council diversity, equity and inclusion committee.
According to Hunter’s Facebook Live, an organizer called someone he works with following the event and asked if he was black.
Post by: benjipwns on April 18, 2022, 08:40:07 PM
Post by: james on April 19, 2022, 12:01:28 AM
This is true across most products. Ironically, kitchen counters and appliances were standardized in the 1950s at a height most comfortable for an average man instead of an average woman
Post by: Potato on April 19, 2022, 02:13:43 AM
I am assuming yes, if the design of the toothrbrush head is sized for male mouths versus female mouths.Most women have big mouths :doge
This is true across most products. Ironically, kitchen counters and appliances were standardized in the 1950s at a height most comfortable for an average man instead of an average woman
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on April 19, 2022, 02:16:08 AM
Post by: benjipwns on April 19, 2022, 09:38:10 AM
https://twitter.com/JradRabel/status/1516260569124323333
Post by: Potato on April 19, 2022, 04:18:04 PM
Post by: Uncle on April 19, 2022, 05:23:27 PM
Post by: Potato on April 19, 2022, 06:19:14 PM
for anyone doing the slightest bit of verification "is this satire" it takes 1 click to look at his profile text and notice he doesn't list his pronouns :dogeI like this idea that anyone not listing pronouns in their Twatter bio is just shitposting,
spoiler (click to show/hide)
as it was always meant to be!
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Post by: benjipwns on April 19, 2022, 08:42:54 PM
Post by: benjipwns on April 20, 2022, 12:51:50 AM
https://twitter.com/axios/status/1516452458914013189
Post by: OnlyRegret on April 20, 2022, 01:17:20 AM
Post by: benjipwns on April 21, 2022, 08:24:20 PM
Post by: benjipwns on April 22, 2022, 12:08:23 AM
Post by: VomKriege on April 22, 2022, 04:11:46 AM
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But “Imagine,” as beautiful as it sounds, has always disturbed me with its overtly anti-religion, unpatriotic recipe for "living life in peace."
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And really, we don’t have to imagine this world. We’ve seen it. It’s called socialism.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/04/12/imagine-song-julian-lennon-enough/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/04/12/imagine-song-julian-lennon-enough/)
Post by: VomKriege on April 22, 2022, 04:21:50 AM
https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/tv/5120596/david-attenborough-woke-t-rex/ (https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/tv/5120596/david-attenborough-woke-t-rex/)
Post by: benjipwns on April 22, 2022, 09:51:58 PM
https://twitter.com/BlueBoxDave/status/1517497073146515457
https://twitter.com/BlueBoxDave/status/1517676828370120710
Post by: chronovore on April 24, 2022, 07:28:15 PM
Post by: Uncle on April 24, 2022, 08:10:03 PM
Except for blatantly fascist countries, the majority of the world sees America as strongly right wing. It’s stunning to hear anybody describe America and having any kind of “lurch to the left” anytime in recent history. Obama was not a progressive. Hillary would not have been a progressive.
what seems strange about this though is how america has been leading the woke charge globally, paternalistically telling other cultures that they're doing things wrong, they're racist or sexist
media and games coming out of japan have too much skin and boob and get edited
games coming out of europe intentionally based in historical accuracy don't have enough diversity (https://www.vg247.com/kingdom-come-deliverance-conspiracy-theories)
americans criticize a fan artist for drawing a Colombian character too white, and people from that culture have to tell them to shut the fuck up because they don't care about that shit (https://www.reddit.com/r/asklatinamerica/comments/s6bkgd/have_you_seen_the_twitter_trend_shutupgringo2022/)
endless mires of branding that has to be changed to remove minorities, phrasing minutia that has to be changed to remove the word "master," Mexicans being told they are Latinx and that's final, comedians and writers being ostracized for decade old jokes
this is all from the American left trying to push their views on everyone else
can you imagine any other country leading the charge on this? France tries to tell the world they're not accepting enough of indigenous peoples? Australia saying "shame on you for telling an off color joke?"
if the US is truly right-dominated, is there another way to classify this to argue that it's not actually coming from proper leftist ideals?
Post by: benjipwns on April 24, 2022, 08:39:16 PM
if the US is truly right-dominated, is there another way to classify this to argue that it's not actually coming from proper leftist ideals?Unless you're overthrowing capitalism and liberal democracy you're not progressive, you're hard right.
Post by: benjipwns on April 24, 2022, 10:46:28 PM
https://twitter.com/business/status/1518225760246546434
https://twitter.com/KevinRobertsTX/status/1517648010536230912
https://twitter.com/baseballcrank/status/1517951375115751425
Post by: OnlyRegret on April 25, 2022, 01:03:16 AM
Except for blatantly fascist countries, the majority of the world sees America as strongly right wing. It’s stunning to hear anybody describe America and having any kind of “lurch to the left” anytime in recent history. Obama was not a progressive. Hillary would not have been a progressive.
what seems strange about this though is how america has been leading the woke charge globally, paternalistically telling other cultures that they're doing things wrong, they're racist or sexist
media and games coming out of japan have too much skin and boob and get edited
games coming out of europe intentionally based in historical accuracy don't have enough diversity (https://www.vg247.com/kingdom-come-deliverance-conspiracy-theories)
americans criticize a fan artist for drawing a Colombian character too white, and people from that culture have to tell them to shut the fuck up because they don't care about that shit (https://www.reddit.com/r/asklatinamerica/comments/s6bkgd/have_you_seen_the_twitter_trend_shutupgringo2022/)
endless mires of branding that has to be changed to remove minorities, phrasing minutia that has to be changed to remove the word "master," Mexicans being told they are Latinx and that's final, comedians and writers being ostracized for decade old jokes
this is all from the American left trying to push their views on everyone else
can you imagine any other country leading the charge on this? France tries to tell the world they're not accepting enough of indigenous peoples? Australia saying "shame on you for telling an off color joke?"
if the US is truly right-dominated, is there another way to classify this to argue that it's not actually coming from proper leftist ideals?
I'd say that shows it's a big country, and not a monolith. But surely that isn't a surprise to anyone.
Post by: Potato on April 25, 2022, 05:16:52 AM
It's just virtue signalling on an international scaleExcept for blatantly fascist countries, the majority of the world sees America as strongly right wing. It’s stunning to hear anybody describe America and having any kind of “lurch to the left” anytime in recent history. Obama was not a progressive. Hillary would not have been a progressive.
what seems strange about this though is how america has been leading the woke charge globally, paternalistically telling other cultures that they're doing things wrong, they're racist or sexist
media and games coming out of japan have too much skin and boob and get edited
games coming out of europe intentionally based in historical accuracy don't have enough diversity (https://www.vg247.com/kingdom-come-deliverance-conspiracy-theories)
americans criticize a fan artist for drawing a Colombian character too white, and people from that culture have to tell them to shut the fuck up because they don't care about that shit (https://www.reddit.com/r/asklatinamerica/comments/s6bkgd/have_you_seen_the_twitter_trend_shutupgringo2022/)
endless mires of branding that has to be changed to remove minorities, phrasing minutia that has to be changed to remove the word "master," Mexicans being told they are Latinx and that's final, comedians and writers being ostracized for decade old jokes
this is all from the American left trying to push their views on everyone else
can you imagine any other country leading the charge on this? France tries to tell the world they're not accepting enough of indigenous peoples? Australia saying "shame on you for telling an off color joke?"
if the US is truly right-dominated, is there another way to classify this to argue that it's not actually coming from proper leftist ideals?
Post by: Uncle on April 25, 2022, 07:15:55 AM
I'd say that shows it's a big country, and not a monolith. But surely that isn't a surprise to anyone.
of course, but does that square with the rest of the world seeing the US as being overwhelmingly right compared to all of them? when the US is the primary source of finger wagging and dictating to others how they're not left enough?
Post by: Rufus on April 25, 2022, 07:35:02 AM
of course, but does that square with the rest of the world seeing the US as being overwhelmingly right compared to all of them?It's because culture war side shows are not all too relevant.
Post by: Transhuman on April 25, 2022, 09:41:46 AM
Post by: Uncle on April 25, 2022, 09:45:14 AM
From what i've observed the Australian feeling about the US is "it's complicated". There's so many high-profile nuts on both sides of politics that anyone's generalization of where America sits on a political spectrum is just as likely to be on one end as the other.
I appreciate this perspective
seems to me the most likely view of the US abroad is "whatever they are, whatever they're saying, it's loud and attempting to impose their culture/views on the rest of us who just want to live our lives"
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 25, 2022, 11:04:01 AM
https://twitter.com/Mediaite/status/1514181602494103562
The larger part of the chyron isn't entirely wrong. I'm not sure what the rest of this have to do with Disney's poor stewarding of ESPN though.
Sports: Gay since 776 BC :rejoice
Post by: benjipwns on April 25, 2022, 11:25:59 PM
https://twitter.com/tribelaw/status/1518299937120952320
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/GerryBugyra/status/1518003851902787585
:badass
:badass
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Post by: chronovore on April 26, 2022, 12:36:53 AM
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Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on April 27, 2022, 02:16:27 PM
https://twitter.com/flieldy/status/1519079369376866304
ironically people on era are using the same logic.
Post by: Himu on April 27, 2022, 03:34:49 PM
https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1519151307742859264
Post by: Uncle on April 27, 2022, 03:41:47 PM
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on April 27, 2022, 03:43:43 PM
Post by: Lonewulfeus on April 27, 2022, 03:48:04 PM
I first voted in 2004 at 18. I believed in gay marriage even then before it gained mainstream traction. I now feel gay marriage should have never happened. Slippery slope is real and I think we should look for real ways to undo the harm it has caused our society. That lifestyle should never be made okayed by the state. Unfortunately you can't just take rights away once given it so it's a poop sandwich and we're all going to have to take a bite.
https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1519151307742859264
The only slippery slope is your formerly cum drenched bussy :ufup
Post by: Himu on April 27, 2022, 04:13:44 PM
https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1517188481797271559
Post by: Himu on April 27, 2022, 04:19:56 PM
I first voted in 2004 at 18. I believed in gay marriage even then before it gained mainstream traction. I now feel gay marriage should have never happened. Slippery slope is real and I think we should look for real ways to undo the harm it has caused our society. That lifestyle should never be made okayed by the state. Unfortunately you can't just take rights away once given it so it's a poop sandwich and we're all going to have to take a bite.
https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1519151307742859264
The only slippery slope is your formerly cum drenched bussy :ufup
Allah saved me from sin, deprevation, and mental illness :rejoice
My pronouns are he/shim
Post by: james on April 27, 2022, 04:25:24 PM
I first voted in 2004 at 18. I believed in gay marriage even then before it gained mainstream traction. I now feel gay marriage should have never happened. Slippery slope is real and I think we should look for real ways to undo the harm it has caused our society. That lifestyle should never be made okayed by the state. Unfortunately you can't just take rights away once given it so it's a poop sandwich and we're all going to have to take a bite.
https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1519151307742859264
Can't wait to hear about how allowing interacial marriage was the first slippery slope
Post by: Lonewulfeus on April 27, 2022, 04:28:11 PM
I first voted in 2004 at 18. I believed in gay marriage even then before it gained mainstream traction. I now feel gay marriage should have never happened. Slippery slope is real and I think we should look for real ways to undo the harm it has caused our society. That lifestyle should never be made okayed by the state. Unfortunately you can't just take rights away once given it so it's a poop sandwich and we're all going to have to take a bite.
https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1519151307742859264
The only slippery slope is your formerly cum drenched bussy :ufup
Allah saved me from sin, deprevation, and mental illness :rejoice
My pronouns are he/shim
Did he though?
Post by: Uncle on April 27, 2022, 04:29:24 PM
Post by: Himu on April 27, 2022, 04:32:07 PM
I first voted in 2004 at 18. I believed in gay marriage even then before it gained mainstream traction. I now feel gay marriage should have never happened. Slippery slope is real and I think we should look for real ways to undo the harm it has caused our society. That lifestyle should never be made okayed by the state. Unfortunately you can't just take rights away once given it so it's a poop sandwich and we're all going to have to take a bite.
https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1519151307742859264
Can't wait to hear about how allowing interacial marriage was the first slippery slope
Nah, that was just basic morality and didn't cause society to unravel in less than ten years after being legalized.
Post by: Himu on April 27, 2022, 04:33:39 PM
missed opportunity to say he/himu
Good one. I should add it to my emails like a lib. Lol Yes Jane, you're a she. I'm so shocked and happy you're accomodating.
..0.3% of the population.
Post by: Kurt Russell on April 27, 2022, 04:42:02 PM
There's a real lack of minority voices on the Bore.
Post by: Uncle on April 27, 2022, 05:00:53 PM
Nah, that was just basic morality and didn't cause society to unravel in less than ten years after being legalized.
I dunno I allow for the possibility that it's one of those "global average temperature vs. number of pirates" things
maybe it was twitter that caused society to unravel
maybe society hasn't even unraveled and there are a bunch of people who want everyone to believe it has, because fear, uncertainty and doubt help bad actors accomplish subversive goals
I never forgot the Louis CK bit "everything's amazing and nobody's happy," (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUBtKNzoKZ4) because regardless of how things have changed since then it's still largely true, plenty of things are still great
but with the population and competition for attention as it is, we only make our voices heard when we can get others to believe we are struggling or injured somehow
Post by: Himu on April 27, 2022, 05:14:37 PM
You see, it's about social praxis.
After gay marriage happened, at the time, the question was "what next?" for the LGBTQ. Within the community there's multiple camps and the T community, which I was a part of, felt slighted by the LBG in how regularly they allowed trans agenda act as sacrificial lambs by the gays. So after marriage equality the T recognized it was our chance to make to make it about us. So we took control of the LGBTQ. We got louder. And with gay marriage being the main goal for many gays they had no real reason left for actvisim so they went to living normal lives and being perfectly normal people. They allowed us to take over. You can see this on many sites. Who is more prominent on Reset Era? Trans Era or Gay Era? See, gay era got their main reason for equality. They could move on. Trans has to gaslight all of society into thinking a man is a woman or a woman is a man which is harder to do than "my friend is in love!" In real life LGBTQ groups are now more geared towards T and Q than LGB. If you're gender non conforming well then you must be trans.
So because gay marriage was won, the depravity of transgenderism took over the movement. Trans are generally more snowflakes than gays because I mean, trans has to convince grandma to call them she. So because of that the trans is inherently more dogmatic because you have to go along with their narrative of gender acceptance. The pronouns, the bathroom, the sports, the whole shebang. Trans used social media to propagate all of this, including Twitter. By accepting gays society now has to accept trans but trans is far more reactionary, unwilling to take criticism, and extreme by the nature of its existence.
So this is how you get trans activists trying to convince society that it's cool to teach the same gender ideology I learned as an adult to 5 year olds. Because the normal ass gays left the house and gave the keys to the insane tenants.
Post by: BIONIC on April 27, 2022, 05:22:38 PM
Post by: Himu on April 27, 2022, 05:42:38 PM
Notice all of this started happening around 2013-2014 when the smartphone became the norm. I guess we can just blame Steve Jobs. And now we have automation and AI coming. It's almost like progress doesn't really exist and humans always deem themselves better than their Creator so we keep churning and churning and churning because newer equals better right without ever considering the consequences because we have ape brains.
Post by: Potato on April 27, 2022, 06:11:33 PM
I'm glad Himu is back.Himu ticks so many minority boxes he's actually the majority.
There's a real lack of minority voices on the Bore.
Post by: Himu on April 27, 2022, 06:29:36 PM
Post by: james on April 27, 2022, 07:17:10 PM
You see, it's about social praxis.
After interacial marriage happened, at the time, the question was "what next?" for the blacks. Within the community there's multiple camps and the black community, which I was a part of, felt slighted by the interacials in how regularly they allowed black agenda act as sacrificial lambs by the interacials. So after marriage equality the blacks recognized it was our chance to make to make it about us. So we took control of the racism. We got louder. And with interacial marriage being the main goal for many interacials they had no real reason left for actvisim so they went to living normal lives and being perfectly normal people. They allowed us to take over. You can see this on many sites. Who is more prominent on Reset Era? Black Era or interacial Era? See, interacial era got their main reason for equality. They could move on. Blacks has to gaslight all of society into thinking a black is a person or a person is a black which is harder to do than "my friend is in love!" In real life racial groups are now more geared towards black and brown than interacial. If you're color non conforming well then you must be black.
So because interacial marriage was won, the depravity of blackism took over the movement. Blacks are generally more snowflakes than whites because I mean, blacks has to convince grandma to call them . So because of that the black is inherently more dogmatic because you have to go along with their narrative of color acceptance. The rap, the basketball, the spices , the whole shebang. Black used social media to propagate all of this, including Twitter. By accepting interacial society now has to accept blacks but blacks is far more reactionary, unwilling to take criticism, and extreme by the nature of its existence.
So this is how you get black activists trying to convince society that it's cool to teach the same color ideology I learned as an adult to 5 year olds. Because the normal ass interacials left the house and gave the keys to the insane tenants.
Post by: Himu on April 27, 2022, 07:18:33 PM
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on April 27, 2022, 07:19:12 PM
Fuckwit.
Post by: bork on April 27, 2022, 09:19:29 PM
Go back to the park for another month or two.
Post by: james on April 27, 2022, 10:26:29 PM
Fake pickup artist himu was better than this, Jesus Christ.
Go back to the park for another month or two.
Let us throw tomatoes
Post by: OnlyRegret on April 27, 2022, 11:12:57 PM
Post by: Transhuman on April 28, 2022, 02:28:14 AM
Post by: Potato on April 28, 2022, 03:27:21 AM
Fake pickup artist himu was better than this, Jesus Christ.I don't think this is a workable solution. He's just building up a head of steam every time you give him a ban. Just leave him run his mouth for a few weeks and he'll calm down and probably turn into a communist or something. Then the Che Guevara wannabes over on the shostacord can have him.
Go back to the park for another month or two.
Post by: james on April 28, 2022, 12:55:09 PM
Fake pickup artist himu was better than this, Jesus Christ.I don't think this is a workable solution. He's just building up a head of steam every time you give him a ban. Just leave him run his mouth for a few weeks and he'll calm down and probably turn into a communist or something. Then the Che Guevara wannabes over on the shostacord can have him.
Go back to the park for another month or two.
Yes it's healthier when Benji can convert him
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on April 28, 2022, 01:04:46 PM
Post by: who is ted danson? on April 28, 2022, 01:13:51 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 02, 2022, 12:02:59 PM
Post by: james on May 02, 2022, 02:48:15 PM
Post by: james on May 02, 2022, 04:20:43 PM
Post by: Potato on May 02, 2022, 04:52:47 PM
:gaben
:what :iface :drake
I'm a little dubious...
Post by: Uncle on May 02, 2022, 08:33:35 PM
but I see the comedy in that one too and not on the twitter meta level of "ha ha now his joke is broken"
management excitedly hired someone they thought was diverse, all they really knew was that he identified as something but didn't look too closely
oh it's an average guy who identifies as white? :doge
Post by: james on May 02, 2022, 08:47:57 PM
So basically that
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on May 03, 2022, 10:31:32 AM
There was a Disney Channel family movie in like 1997 where a black American family decides to host a student from Africa assuming they'd get a black girl but it turns out she was a white girl from apartheid that expected a white family in the us
So basically that
Nell?
Post by: benjipwns on May 03, 2022, 11:43:35 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 04, 2022, 10:58:38 PM
https://twitter.com/kate_manne/status/1521904202653614081
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/kate_manne/status/1521904664144404483
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Post by: Uncle on May 04, 2022, 11:31:17 PM
Post by: BIONIC on May 04, 2022, 11:36:03 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 04, 2022, 11:44:59 PM
She's moved onto bitching about Kim Cardassian losing weight or something:
https://twitter.com/buckleyswartz/status/1522058887960137728
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on May 05, 2022, 12:39:37 PM
I'm really fascinated by how deleted tweets still end up displaying their text here, seems like hidden data that twitter would normally prevent from passing over
elon musk already paying off
Post by: Nintex on May 05, 2022, 07:21:55 PM
https://twitter.com/kkruesi/status/1521934671927562240 (https://twitter.com/kkruesi/status/1521934671927562240)
Post by: Potato on May 05, 2022, 07:55:36 PM
Post by: Nintex on May 06, 2022, 06:14:16 AM
- Women spoke up against the 'pregnant person' lunacy
- People basically told Will Smith to 'man up' and take a joke
- Virtue signaling TV shows are being cancelled left and right
- Netflix keeps backing Chapelle
- Corporations are not jumping on the abortion thing
- So far Disney has not made any announcements about removing people from projects that were under scrutiny
- Depp getting praised from taking Amber's attorney to the cleaners
- Zelensky is the 'Churchill' of our time, no longer is Churchill being painted in a negative light
Post by: Potato on May 06, 2022, 06:33:37 AM
Post by: Uncle on May 06, 2022, 07:16:07 AM
- Virtue signaling TV shows are being cancelled left and right
I don't follow TV that closely, what falls under this category for you
the only one I know about is batwoman
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- Corporations are not jumping on the abortion thing
I would attribute this partly to the fact that it's still in the realm of leaked documents and not definite, in the realm of corporations there's nothing worse than jumping to conclusions and winding up with egg on your face, alienating a chunk of your customers for no reason
Post by: Transhuman on May 06, 2022, 09:29:10 AM
I don't follow TV that closely, what falls under this category for you
the only one I know about is batwoman
James Corden is leaving late night, does that count? Though he'll probably be replaced by someone even more TV-friendly.
Post by: benjipwns on May 06, 2022, 09:46:04 AM
James Corden is leaving late night, does that count?Wait really?
*Googles*
Maybe there is a God in our infinite multiverse. :hmm
Post by: Uncle on May 06, 2022, 09:48:36 AM
Post by: Polident Hive on May 06, 2022, 09:51:22 AM
Countries not too fond of LGBT et al have been banning Doctor Strange 2 due to the shockingly bold inclusion of a tiny pride flag pin. There’s always a chance they’ll buckle and edit it out after the initial positive press. Get some extra business in Egypt and China. But it’s progress? Next stop, Top Gun 2 with the restored Taiwan flag.
Post by: Uncle on May 06, 2022, 09:56:28 AM
Don’t know if it falls under culture war. Observing Hollywood caring a little less about international markets. Interesting, in a good way.
Countries not too fond of LGBT et al have been banning Doctor Strange 2 due to the shockingly bold inclusion of a tiny pride flag pin. There’s always a chance they’ll buckle and edit it out after the initial positive press. Get some extra business in Egypt and China. But it’s progress? Next stop, Top Gun 2 with the restored Taiwan flag.
(https://i.imgur.com/jmG1jzJ.png)
Post by: benjipwns on May 06, 2022, 10:10:23 AM
Don’t know if it falls under culture war. Observing Hollywood caring a little less about international markets. Interesting, in a good way.It probably makes good sense to make countries be more specific about what's over the line. They can go to China (or whoever) and say they'll edit or prevent stuff on the back end while pretending publicly they're letting the artists express themselves through little irrelevant digs. China had been fine about some of this until recently.
Countries not too fond of LGBT et al have been banning Doctor Strange 2 due to the shockingly bold inclusion of a tiny pride flag pin. There’s always a chance they’ll buckle and edit it out after the initial positive press. Get some extra business in Egypt and China. But it’s progress? Next stop, Top Gun 2 with the restored Taiwan flag.
Post by: Transhuman on May 06, 2022, 11:43:12 AM
James Corden is leaving late night, does that count?Wait really?
*Googles*
Maybe there is a God in our infinite multiverse. :hmm
God should learn to be more proactive
Post by: benjipwns on May 06, 2022, 11:54:17 AM
Post by: benjipwns on May 06, 2022, 02:03:47 PM
Quote from: https://nypost.com/2022/05/05/gop-senators-want-new-tv-rating-for-shows-with-lgbtq-characters/
A group of Republican senators want TV ratings updated so parents can block their children from watching shows with LGBTQ characters.
The five senators from North Dakota, Kansas, Utah, Indiana and Montana sent a letter Wednesday to the TV Parental Guidelines Monitoring Board asking for a TV rating overhaul.
“In recent years, concerning topics of a sexual nature have become aggressively politicized and promoted in children’s programming, including irreversible and harmful experimental treatments for mental disorders like gender dysphoria,” the letter reads.
The two-page letter signed by Sens. Roger Marshall, Mike Lee, Mike Braun, Kevin Cramer and Steve Daines “strongly urged” the TV group’s chairman, Charles Rivkin, to update its guidelines to ensure parents are aware of the “disturbing” content.
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Marshall’s office pointed to four shows when asked by the newspaper for specific examples of concern — including Nickelodeon’s “The Loud House” and “Danger Force,” as well as Netflix’s “She-Ra and the Princesses of Power.”:american
Marshall’s office also cited a casting call from Pixar seeking a voice actor for a transgender character and public service announcements by Disney featuring a family with a transgender child, the newspaper reported.
Post by: benjipwns on May 06, 2022, 05:24:08 PM
Post by: Polident Hive on May 06, 2022, 07:48:57 PM
Don’t know if it falls under culture war. Observing Hollywood caring a little less about international markets. Interesting, in a good way.It probably makes good sense to make countries be more specific about what's over the line. They can go to China (or whoever) and say they'll edit or prevent stuff on the back end while pretending publicly they're letting the artists express themselves through little irrelevant digs. China had been fine about some of this until recently.
Countries not too fond of LGBT et al have been banning Doctor Strange 2 due to the shockingly bold inclusion of a tiny pride flag pin. There’s always a chance they’ll buckle and edit it out after the initial positive press. Get some extra business in Egypt and China. But it’s progress? Next stop, Top Gun 2 with the restored Taiwan flag.
China has some of the more let's say creative censors. Showing major riots, such as in Joker, are a no-no. There's a cultural taboo about certain supernatural elements and spirits that's lost on me. No Ghostbusters over there. The line is easier to define when Chinese companies are actively funding projects. Previously mentioned Top Gun 2 is backed by Tencent, for example. Way it works, appealing to one market alienates you to another. Uncharted was banned in Vietnam due to the nine-dash line. To take some heat off China's censors, they did allow West Side Story? That was banned in many middle eastern countries over a trans character.
Post by: Uncle on May 06, 2022, 08:29:41 PM
companies trying to toe their line will pre-emptively make changes they haven't specifically been asked to make in the hopes that it will make the approval process easier, and that gets misinterpreted as something china actively requires
it's often cited that china forced blizzard to show no exposed bones on the forsaken race, and people laughed about how china was scared of seeing any bones or undead references, but blizzard chose to do that themselves
in fact there are plenty of games and media in china showing skeletons, bones, perhaps even ghosts
https://www.techinasia.com/china-doesnt-censor-skeletons-the-truth-about-game-censorship-in-the-middle-kingdom
Post by: Nintex on May 07, 2022, 01:02:10 PM
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Do not take a stance you cannot reverse, especially when the decision is not final. This topic is a textbook "50/50" issue. Subjects that divide the country can sometimes be no-win situations for companies because regardless of what they do they will alienate at least 15 to 30 percent of their stakeholders… Do not assume that all of your employees, customers or investors share your view.:)
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on May 07, 2022, 01:15:44 PM
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Do not take a stance you cannot reverse, especially when the decision is not final. This topic is a textbook "50/50" issue. Subjects that divide the country can sometimes be no-win situations for companies because regardless of what they do they will alienate at least 15 to 30 percent of their stakeholders… Do not assume that all of your employees, customers or investors share your view.
Drink Coke!
weird
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 07, 2022, 01:47:11 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 07, 2022, 01:50:29 PM
Are we at a crossroads in the wokevolution?
- Women spoke up against the 'pregnant person' lunacy
- People basically told Will Smith to 'man up' and take a joke
- Virtue signaling TV shows are being cancelled left and right
- Netflix keeps backing Chapelle
- Corporations are not jumping on the abortion thing
- So far Disney has not made any announcements about removing people from projects that were under scrutiny
- Depp getting praised from taking Amber's attorney to the cleaners
- Zelensky is the 'Churchill' of our time, no longer is Churchill being painted in a negative light
This is your brain on SJW compilation videos.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on May 07, 2022, 01:58:36 PM
Seems like a response to Pepsi's new slogans "The choice is yours (unless you are a women)" and "Pepsi, the choice of an unwanted generation".
I'm stealing this for my set.
Post by: VomKriege on May 07, 2022, 03:00:51 PM
Post by: tiesto on May 07, 2022, 09:36:54 PM
https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1522563650724282368 (https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1522563650724282368)QuoteDo not take a stance you cannot reverse, especially when the decision is not final. This topic is a textbook "50/50" issue. Subjects that divide the country can sometimes be no-win situations for companies because regardless of what they do they will alienate at least 15 to 30 percent of their stakeholders… Do not assume that all of your employees, customers or investors share your view.:)
Actually kind of surprised about this. Like, I'm not certain but I'd imagine BLM probably had less support overall in America than abortion rights, yet lots of corporations (even ones who are usually apolitical like Nintendo) supported it.
Post by: benjipwns on May 08, 2022, 12:54:17 AM
Actually kind of surprised about this. Like, I'm not certain but I'd imagine BLM probably had less support overall in America than abortion rights, yet lots of corporations (even ones who are usually apolitical like Nintendo) supported it.Only ~20% of women support abortion with no restrictions, the two absolutist positions only are a third of women. (Men in general support abortion restrictions less.) It would be the ultimate brand destroying singularity to try and take a position on it.
BLM was a meaningless phrase specifically leveraged in ways that nobody could object to it.
Post by: benjipwns on May 08, 2022, 03:00:43 AM
how could RATM do this :fbm
Post by: benjipwns on May 08, 2022, 03:02:47 AM
https://twitter.com/jardinsecret888/status/1522687296713109504
Post by: VomKriege on May 08, 2022, 03:23:01 AM
https://twitter.com/awildmaxdisapp1/status/1520584542490447878
And one of those guys brought raw meat to eat (?) in a steel bowl (?).
Post by: Nintex on May 08, 2022, 05:49:40 PM
:dead
What is he doing with that spoon, cuck needs to raw dog that bowl :doge
Now Star Trek explores, what if the 'culture war' became WW3? :o :lol
https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1523388693544796162 (https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1523388693544796162)
Post by: Uncle on May 08, 2022, 07:20:33 PM
Post by: james on May 09, 2022, 10:36:01 AM
Post by: benjipwns on May 09, 2022, 11:38:08 PM
Post by: VomKriege on May 10, 2022, 12:51:20 AM
Post by: benjipwns on May 10, 2022, 01:24:44 AM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 10, 2022, 07:33:54 PM
But but but authorial intent!
Post by: Tuckers Law on May 10, 2022, 07:47:43 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 10, 2022, 08:04:30 PM
Post by: Tuckers Law on May 10, 2022, 10:05:47 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 11, 2022, 03:36:19 AM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/underscoremarx/status/1524150473078587393
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Post by: BisMarckie on May 11, 2022, 08:47:25 AM
The bore’s “server” being a modded Wii in Demi’s sex dungeon finally paying off
Stop stealing my material :bolo
Post by: BIONIC on May 11, 2022, 01:16:48 PM
The bore’s “server” being a modded Wii in Demi’s sex dungeon finally paying off
Stop stealing my material :bolo
Back off pal or maybe I’ll make a Yugoslav Wars joke that’ll get five whole likes next time
Post by: Nintex on May 11, 2022, 01:54:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB4fbcUVDyQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW6GSa14xXI
Post by: BIONIC on May 11, 2022, 02:04:41 PM
Post by: Nintex on May 11, 2022, 04:07:20 PM
:rock :gopnik :rock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=333OVHhpK5c
Can't believe these Giorgio Moroder gopniks are calling out the US airforce like this
Post by: Uncle on May 12, 2022, 07:11:17 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/wUv28HV.png)
https://freebeacon.com/biden-administration/yes-safe-smoking-kits-include-free-crack-pipes-we-know-because-we-got-them/
Post by: Polident Hive on May 12, 2022, 09:12:13 PM
Just left wondering what sort of reaction that’s meant to illicit. Don’t think I’ve seen it before.
It was pretty good. I like black sesame in sweet foods. And I’m supporting something or whatever by proxy.
Post by: VomKriege on May 13, 2022, 03:47:01 AM
Post by: benjipwns on May 13, 2022, 04:22:05 PM
Quote from: https://www.wsj.com/articles/inside-the-collapse-of-cnn-the-news-channels-apollo-mission-11652439600
CNN’s new owner, Warner Bros. Discovery said on April 21 that it was shutting down the weeks-old streaming service CNN+, leaving several hundred employees to look for new jobs.ouch
A week later, several of those staffers received packages from CNN: boxes filled with network-branded gear, from pens to food containers, as well as items such as a popcorn maker and headphones, people who received the gifts said.
Some came with welcome notes. “This is an incredible time to be part of CNN,” one note said. “Build relationships and take time to connect with colleagues and learn so that you make the most of your time here.”
The ill-timed gifts, which CNN says were sent mistakenly, were another gut punch for staffers that had bet on CNN+—drawn by the promise of growth in streaming—only to watch it collapse in epic fashion.
Post by: james on May 13, 2022, 04:40:13 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 13, 2022, 06:44:25 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/PAUzaOF.png)
Post by: james on May 13, 2022, 07:02:13 PM
The ACLU of California and Lambda Legal (https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5f232ea74d8342386a7ebc52/t/627ae90d50d43d059255d661/1652222223090/Intervenor+Proposed+answer.pdf) are denying some allegations:
(https://i.imgur.com/PAUzaOF.png)
Have you been to Thailand Benji
Post by: Transhuman on May 13, 2022, 07:32:55 PM
Post by: Potato on May 13, 2022, 07:33:36 PM
There's so much sex tourism in Thailand that they had to make more women just to keep up with demandThis is the kind of comedy that can only be achieved with years of comedy school training!
Post by: benjipwns on May 13, 2022, 09:03:24 PM
Have you been to Thailand BenjiI defer to your expertise on the criminal underage sex trade.
Post by: Nintex on May 14, 2022, 02:47:11 AM
The tide is turning
Post by: Potato on May 14, 2022, 08:30:56 AM
https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1524877302726742016 (https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1524877302726742016)That's a big win for sanity right there.
The tide is turning
"Don't like the content we produce? Maybe we're not the place for you to work..."
Post by: Uncle on May 14, 2022, 10:26:17 AM
Post by: james on May 14, 2022, 11:37:40 PM
Waiting for Benji to come in and defend the free speach
His account was nuked by the admin, archive:
https://archive.ph/jPEBA
Post by: VomKriege on May 15, 2022, 04:40:55 AM
Post by: VomKriege on May 15, 2022, 04:50:39 AM
Post by: Potato on May 15, 2022, 05:10:29 AM
https://twitter.com/miniondeathcult/status/1525568250615959552Can't drink booze either. This is well known.
Post by: HardcoreRetro on May 15, 2022, 09:02:01 AM
The racist mass murderer spent months on reddit learning how to commit a mass shooting.
Waiting for Benji to come in and defend the free speach
His account was nuked by the admin, archive:
https://archive.ph/jPEBA
He had to learn for months on how to walk in a store and shoot random people of colour? What a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.
What does that have to do with free speech?
Post by: benjipwns on May 15, 2022, 11:07:00 AM
The racist mass murderer spent months on reddit learning how to commit a mass shooting.I defer to your expertise on when the government should have shut down reddit and imprisoned everyone in the company.
Waiting for Benji to come in and defend the free speach
Post by: benjipwns on May 15, 2022, 03:30:19 PM
well known idiot concocts conspiracy theory to cheers of the replies
https://twitter.com/ElieNYC/status/1525700677682532354
https://twitter.com/ElieNYC/status/1525700680253587457
https://twitter.com/ElieNYC/status/1525700682828894209
https://twitter.com/ElieNYC/status/1525700685358149636
https://twitter.com/ElieNYC/status/1525704111538192384
https://twitter.com/ElieNYC/status/1525700680253587457
https://twitter.com/ElieNYC/status/1525700682828894209
https://twitter.com/ElieNYC/status/1525700685358149636
https://twitter.com/ElieNYC/status/1525704111538192384
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Other lunatics agree: GAMERCIDE NOW
https://twitter.com/quatoria/status/1525821542176792577
https://twitter.com/quatoria/status/1525824227244396545
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 15, 2022, 03:42:01 PM
Post by: Nintex on May 15, 2022, 04:00:29 PM
Gamers rise up 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzjwmP5OqnM
Post by: james on May 15, 2022, 08:40:35 PM
The racist mass murderer spent months on reddit learning how to commit a mass shooting.I defer to your expertise on when the government should have shut down reddit and imprisoned everyone in the company.
Waiting for Benji to come in and defend the free speach
Probably when cnn pointed out the jailbait thing
Post by: benjipwns on May 16, 2022, 12:47:12 PM
Post by: Uncle on May 16, 2022, 12:57:25 PM
they're clearly of another species where their size and voice are average for their kind, I mean, what does she think an adult Toad looks like?
towns full of nothing but children, games full of scenarios putting these children in horrible peril or showing them dying :doge
Post by: VomKriege on May 16, 2022, 02:34:27 PM
Post by: Nintex on May 16, 2022, 02:49:32 PM
So apparently a "retweet" on Truth social is called a Re-Truth.And Trump still can't pronounce it, he keeps saying Troth Social.
While he has already dropped a few bangers it looks like Truth Social only has a limited timed exclusive on Trump 'Truths'.
https://twitter.com/Forbes/status/1526246204027416578 (https://twitter.com/Forbes/status/1526246204027416578)
Quote
As a part of the Trump Media & Technology Group (TMTG) “Social Media Exclusivity Term,” Trump has agreed to wait six hours before posting the same content from Truth Social on any other sites, according to the Securities and Exchange Commission filing.
The former president is allowed, however, to make posts from his personal account related to “political messaging, political fundraising or get-out-the vote efforts” at “any time” on any social media site.
Post by: Potato on May 16, 2022, 04:23:41 PM
https://twitter.com/UltimaShadowX/status/1525911787752898561Gaming industry really is staffed by the biggest fucking idiots in the world. The industry is successful in spite of the people.
Post by: Nintex on May 16, 2022, 05:10:01 PM
Over the past few years they've attracted a whole bunch of SJW's with very little skill and have chased away the most experienced developers who have taken up better paying jobs to develop business applications or went indie.https://twitter.com/UltimaShadowX/status/1525911787752898561Gaming industry really is staffed by the biggest fucking idiots in the world. The industry is successful in spite of the people.
The way they treat their consumers: "We're doing WW2 with pink hair outfits!!! If you don't like, just don't buy it!" is exactly how they treated their staff: "If you don't like it, just leave!" and many of them did.
BioWare, Blizzard, Rare, DICE... a whole bunch of studios are basically completely disfunctional or completely rebooted with mostly junior staff at this point.
"When you go woke, you go broke"
There might be a turning point here too with Sony not going along with the abortion politics and Spencer's sort of public dissapointment that Starfield and Redfall won't ship this year.
But that's getting them a lot of scrutiny and bad press so it probably won't last.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 16, 2022, 05:25:20 PM
Post by: Uncle on May 16, 2022, 05:37:57 PM
someone will say no ur wrong and it will be quite embarrassing
also remember not to expose your worldview, you need to keep it really hidden because if anyone figures it out they will be free to draw lots of conclusions about your ilk whether accurate or not (this is somehow different from when you try to draw conclusions as above)
Post by: benjipwns on May 16, 2022, 05:57:07 PM
Man you need to touch grass. The big problem with video game studios doing poorly is because they hired a bunch of SJW and chased away the real talent to indie development? Because big studios failing has never been a thing before. It was SJW that sunk Rare. Also indy games are notoriously anti-SJW right? It's like the stupid list you posted the other day. Just a bunch of nebulous shit that is only related if you are listening to rightwing talking points on twitter all day. You can think the video is stupid but going from that to this is why the industry is failing is some himu-brained thinking. It also very much exposes your worldview. People interested in diversity have to be low talent and scare away the real workers.You really think a presentation from five years ago by the art director at King since 2006 might not be the best evidence for Nintex's all encompassing theory for what's ruining an industry that's growing?
Post by: benjipwns on May 16, 2022, 06:13:10 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 16, 2022, 06:23:39 PM
Man you need to touch grass. The big problem with video game studios doing poorly is because they hired a bunch of SJW and chased away the real talent to indie development? Because big studios failing has never been a thing before. It was SJW that sunk Rare. Also indy games are notoriously anti-SJW right? It's like the stupid list you posted the other day. Just a bunch of nebulous shit that is only related if you are listening to rightwing talking points on twitter all day. You can think the video is stupid but going from that to this is why the industry is failing is some himu-brained thinking. It also very much exposes your worldview. People interested in diversity have to be low talent and scare away the real workers.You really think a presentation from five years ago by the art director at King since 2006 might not be the best evidence for Nintex's all encompassing theory for what's ruining an industry that's growing?
It's not good for the boy to be given you-go-girl likes and no pushback even in the culture war safe space thread. Watching him set out an argument is like watching martial art 'masters' deflect attacks with their mind; it's embarrassing and the delusion is maintained by other people playing along.
Post by: Nintex on May 16, 2022, 06:26:36 PM
Man you need to touch grass. The big problem with video game studios doing poorly is because they hired a bunch of SJW and chased away the real talent to indie development? Because big studios failing has never been a thing before. It was SJW that sunk Rare. Also indy games are notoriously anti-SJW right? It's like the stupid list you posted the other day. Just a bunch of nebulous shit that is only related if you are listening to rightwing talking points on twitter all day. You can think the video is stupid but going from that to this is why the industry is failing is some himu-brained thinking. It also very much exposes your worldview. People interested in diversity have to be low talent and scare away the real workers.Take Everwild, it doesn't even have a gameplay concept. Sony had to rewrite an entire high-school furry adventure game. Then there's the crazy Ratchet & Clank lady that stole an interns idea of a female sidekick and then decided it was too sexual no matter what they did. And those are just the public examples.
I can give you countless examples of studios that went off the rails because instead of focusing on making good games, they decided to focus on other things.
Those Blizzard people probably spend more time creating this diversity measurement tool, than actually developing Overwatch 2 or whatever they were supposed to be doing.
It's one of those pet projects that got completely out of hand.
I didn't specifically mention diversity as it is less about diversity and that is hardly the main issue.
All succesful diverse media is highly regarded (often times even rewarded) and offers a real different perspective or a new experience.
However seldom has bolting on more diversity(or any of the other items from the checklist) for the sake of diversity resulted in a better product.
You can make good diverse products but you can't just shoehorn diversity into existing company cultures and products and expect it to work.
The bigger problem though, is the idea that you need to latch onto every political issue that fits in your lane and it needs to somehow be forced into corporate policy as if that is some kind of law.
And then others have to suddenly live by this corporate policy that they didn't sign up for. WFH has fixed some of the issues though, as you can easily mute Slack channels. It's not very good for teamwork however.
Post by: benjipwns on May 16, 2022, 06:38:15 PM
I can give you countless examples of studios that went off the rails because instead of focusing on making good games, they decided to focus on other things.This tool was developed by King, a completely separate subsidiary of Activision Blizzard. The Overwatch 2 team says they have never used it and the Overwatch characters were used by King simply for illustration purposes.
Those Blizzard people probably spend more time creating this diversity measurement tool, than actually developing Overwatch 2 or whatever they were supposed to be doing.
It's one of those pet projects that got completely out of hand.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 16, 2022, 06:46:09 PM
Man you need to touch grass. The big problem with video game studios doing poorly is because they hired a bunch of SJW and chased away the real talent to indie development? Because big studios failing has never been a thing before. It was SJW that sunk Rare. Also indy games are notoriously anti-SJW right? It's like the stupid list you posted the other day. Just a bunch of nebulous shit that is only related if you are listening to rightwing talking points on twitter all day. You can think the video is stupid but going from that to this is why the industry is failing is some himu-brained thinking. It also very much exposes your worldview. People interested in diversity have to be low talent and scare away the real workers.Take Everwild, it doesn't even have a gameplay concept. Sony had to rewrite an entire high-school furry adventure game. Then there's the crazy Ratchet & Clank lady that stole an interns idea of a female sidekick and then decided it was too sexual no matter what they did. And those are just the public examples.
I can give you countless examples of studios that went off the rails because instead of focusing on making good games, they decided to focus on other things.
Those Blizzard people probably spend more time creating this diversity measurement tool, than actually developing Overwatch 2 or whatever they were supposed to be doing.
It's one of those pet projects that got completely out of hand.
I didn't specifically mention diversity as it is less about diversity and that is hardly the main issue.
All succesful diverse media is highly regarded (often times even rewarded) and offers a real different perspective or a new experience.
However seldom has bolting on more diversity(or any of the other items from the checklist) for the sake of diversity resulted in a better product.
You can make good diverse products but you can't just shoehorn diversity into existing company cultures and products and expect it to work.
The bigger problem though, is the idea that you need to latch onto every political issue that fits in your lane and it needs to somehow be forced into corporate policy as if that is some kind of law.
And then others have to suddenly live by this corporate policy that they didn't sign up for. WFH has fixed some of the issues though, as you can easily mute Slack channels. It's not very good for teamwork however.
No buddy, these are problems that you have vastly magnified their significance because you view everything through a culture war lens. They are also problems that existed long before SJWs 'invaded' the game industry or other industries. You ignore alternative easy explanations when they fit the narrative you want. "Virtue signaling TV shows are being cancelled left and right" maybe, but aren't most TV shows canceled left and right? But that wouldn't fit your all-encompassing theory. And sure diversity isn't bad but people just go too far with it. Like if you are actively trying for diversity that's shoehorning and will run against the artistic expression these true game devs are going for who have been God-touched and know the proper amount. Obviously, more time is being focused on diversity since all you read about is the diversity part on twitter. Good diversity just happens naturally and all the best cases of diversity never had any thought put into it. Your problem isn't about diversity, it's about SJWs forcing their (diversity) politics where it doesn't belong.
Post by: Potato on May 16, 2022, 06:54:08 PM
https://twitter.com/APStylebook/status/1526256032233705472I see what they're trying to do.
Manifesto implies some sort of coherent thought, philosophy or creedo. Most of these lunatics can barely string a sentence together.
Post by: Uncle on May 16, 2022, 07:18:48 PM
https://twitter.com/APStylebook/status/1526256032233705472I see what they're trying to do.
Manifesto implies some sort of coherent thought, philosophy or creedo. Most of these lunatics can barely string a sentence together.
https://twitter.com/MetsFanInPhilly/status/1526256972743462912
Post by: Potato on May 16, 2022, 08:10:47 PM
Post by: tiesto on May 16, 2022, 08:44:44 PM
Available gaming stats indicate that there are 3.1 billion gamers across the globe.
Gamers rise up 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzjwmP5OqnM
I was actually at that MAGfest but didn't go to the concert because I never played the Command and Conquer series and I think there was something else I wanted to see at the time. But my friends who I went to MAGfest went and said it kicked ass (they both were big fans of the series). Watched the show later on YT and damn I did miss out.
Post by: Uncle on May 16, 2022, 09:00:50 PM
You ignore alternative easy explanations when they fit the narrative you want. "Virtue signaling TV shows are being cancelled left and right" maybe, but aren't most TV shows canceled left and right? But that wouldn't fit your all-encompassing theory.
ok, but can't anything be explained away by this?
"fascism is on the rise globally, you can see this by conservatives being elected and doing everything they can to maintain their power underhandedly"
"yes but historically there's always an ebb and flow, sometimes democrats win elections and sometimes republicans do"
:idont
what suddenly crosses the line into valid for you? is there any situation in which you would say "you know what, given the evidence presented by nintex, I think he might be on to something here, there's a pretty clear pattern and strong parallels in various industries"
or do you fight tooth and nail at every premise?
"batwoman wasn't a woke show, since LGBT people are so much more visible everywhere it was merely presenting the status quo, and if anything it was canceled for not doing enough to rise above like other better shows have done"
Post by: benjipwns on May 16, 2022, 09:40:37 PM
The counterhypothetical for certain things isn't "they spend less time on wokeness and more time on programming" it's "they use Unreal Engine instead of demanding DICE figure out how to recode Frostbite into Unreal on the fly" or "somebody decides what Mass Effect: Andromeda and Anthem should be before they spend three years making both" especially when the wokeness isn't the primary sin.
Nintex posits that the Woko Haram have pushed out the "capable" employees but provides no evidence for this unique theory when the standard theory of game industry churn works just as well to explain the leaving of veterans from companies.
Using Rare in particular is a inexplicable example that suggests Nintex is merely claiming things as supportive of his predetermined theory. If every example has an alternative explanation that's more plausible then the offered theory it would seem strange to claim that it's a strongly supported theory despite no examples. The only example that supports Nintex's theory of wokeness harming established franchises that I can think of is one he doesn't use in the new Saints Row.
Post by: Uncle on May 16, 2022, 10:50:34 PM
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Sony had to rewrite an entire high-school furry adventure game.
if he means goodbye volcano high, "sony" didn't rewrite anything, it's actually an example of a completely dysfunctional indie studio which I dove into a while back
- teen angst furry scalie game from canada is inexplicably shown at the PS5 reveal in june 2020
- "KO_OP is a Canadian studio that is just as enigmatic as the games it produces. They place a heavy emphasis on equality. Hence, every person earns the same salary. Furthermore, decisions are made as a group, and everyone has equal input. This is vastly different from the usual hierarchical structure of businesses."
- "The protagonist, Fang, is a non-binary dinosaur."
- to this day, developers throw a fit if they see anyone referring to Fang as "she"
- internet finds out that one of the game's writers is Kate Gray, a former Kotaku writer who posted CG child porn of harry potter and pokemon characters to the front page of Kotaku
- based on the reaction of the public to all of the above, developers lock their steam discussion forums immediately after the reveal and hide in discord
- game completely disappears from all radars
- 4channers get a weird idea and toil in secret for a year to create a full parody game of Goodbye Volcano High before it releases, before even a non-cinematic trailer has been shown, called Snoot Game, which is released on itch.io in june 2021
- canadian furry developers get very mad at this and demand that itch.io removes the 100% legal and fair use game...which itch.io does
- Snoot Game developers create their own website and continue distributing the game anyway
- canadian furry developers aggressively ban any mention of Snoot Game in their discord server
- to this day, canadian furry developers are paranoid dictators of every space they govern, running "fans" through a rigorous background check and banning over the most minor slights
- in their first update since the reveal, august 2021, Goodbye Volcano High was delayed to vaguely 2022
- further updates reveal the entire game is being rewritten from scratch, and it uses a weird hybrid 2D graphics system which results in looking like exactly cel shaded 3D models while requiring 10x the effort of just using 3D models
- meanwhile, Snoot Game sustains a large cult following, including original characters and stories expanding beyond its simple parody
- Snoot Game developers become an actual game studio and have gone on to work on like 2-3 more games while woke canadians have not managed to finish one
(https://i.imgur.com/d632mEG.png)
Post by: Potato on May 16, 2022, 11:38:10 PM
I think it's always fair to push back when there's other explanations though, like Batwoman was just facing the standard CW crunch. Madrun's point about diversity not being a tradeoff for craft is one that cuts directly into Nintex's theory of a singular cause. Anthem and Battlefield 2042 didn't suffer because of wokeness. They were management disasters almost from top to bottom of which that, to the extent it exists or not, may have been only one symptom.There are always multiple factors behind any monumental fuck up and simply blaming wokeism is just Nintex exhibiting Dutch directness (along with a multitude of other Nintexisms PBUH).
The counterhypothetical for certain things isn't "they spend less time on wokeness and more time on programming" it's "they use Unreal Engine instead of demanding DICE figure out how to recode Frostbite into Unreal on the fly" or "somebody decides what Mass Effect: Andromeda and Anthem should be before they spend three years making both" especially when the wokeness isn't the primary sin.
Nintex posits that the Woko Haram have pushed out the "capable" employees but provides no evidence for this unique theory when the standard theory of game industry churn works just as well to explain the leaving of veterans from companies.
Using Rare in particular is a inexplicable example that suggests Nintex is merely claiming things as supportive of his predetermined theory. If every example has an alternative explanation that's more plausible then the offered theory it would seem strange to claim that it's a strongly supported theory despite no examples. The only example that supports Nintex's theory of wokeness harming established franchises that I can think of is one he doesn't use in the new Saints Row.
However, a common theme in many of the recent disasterpieces in gaming and film has been the apparent tendency to begin with "wokeism" and to simply try to create a flim/game around that instead of going down the established route of having a core theme/gameplay loop that the mass market can identify with and enjoy.
Strong management/direction would certainly help limit the problems, but the crazies have long overtaken the asylum in many of these companies and they are intent of shitting these things out at a steady pace.
I for one am happy to sit back and :popcorn while these companies more frequently burn through great wads of cash chasing an audience that will turn on them at the first sign that they don't meet the purity tests (see Sony right now).
Post by: Rufus on May 17, 2022, 08:55:35 AM
No. Not when the claim is flimsy and unsubstantiated.You ignore alternative easy explanations when they fit the narrative you want. "Virtue signaling TV shows are being cancelled left and right" maybe, but aren't most TV shows canceled left and right? But that wouldn't fit your all-encompassing theory.
ok, but can't anything be explained away by this?
Post by: Rufus on May 17, 2022, 09:16:32 AM
However, a common theme in many of the recent disasterpieces in gaming and film has been the apparent tendency to begin with "wokeism" and to simply try to create a flim/game around that instead of going down the established route of having a core theme/gameplay loop that the mass market can identify with and enjoy.What game would you say qualifies? What makes a game woke, anyway? Far Cry 6 has an NPC who is a trans man, but it's still a Ubisoft open-world game, i.e. undeniably aiming for mass appeal. Does that qualify?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on May 17, 2022, 09:27:32 AM
https://twitter.com/APStylebook/status/1526256032233705472I see what they're trying to do.
Manifesto implies some sort of coherent thought, philosophy or creedo. Most of these lunatics can barely string a sentence together.
I'm sorta fucked in my head on this.
A manifesto isn't inherently coherent. It's a collection of intent more than anything.
Post by: Uncle on May 17, 2022, 10:10:36 AM
the irony in simply stating that a claim is flimsy or unsubstantiated while refusing to elaborate further or substantiate any counter-claimsNo. Not when the claim is flimsy and unsubstantiated.You ignore alternative easy explanations when they fit the narrative you want. "Virtue signaling TV shows are being cancelled left and right" maybe, but aren't most TV shows canceled left and right? But that wouldn't fit your all-encompassing theory.
ok, but can't anything be explained away by this?
while plucking out one single statement from questions and examples that would have actually assisted in elaborating further...as you decry a lack of elaboration
I understand you don't respect the perspectives of people whose opinions run counter to yours, but if that's the case it's better not to dignify it with a response than to say "ur rong" as an own-goal
Post by: tiesto on May 17, 2022, 10:16:00 AM
Over the past few years they've attracted a whole bunch of SJW's with very little skill and have chased away the most experienced developers who have taken up better paying jobs to develop business applications or went indie.https://twitter.com/UltimaShadowX/status/1525911787752898561Gaming industry really is staffed by the biggest fucking idiots in the world. The industry is successful in spite of the people.
The way they treat their consumers: "We're doing WW2 with pink hair outfits!!! If you don't like, just don't buy it!" is exactly how they treated their staff: "If you don't like it, just leave!" and many of them did.
BioWare, Blizzard, Rare, DICE... a whole bunch of studios are basically completely disfunctional or completely rebooted with mostly junior staff at this point.
"When you go woke, you go broke"
There might be a turning point here too with Sony not going along with the abortion politics and Spencer's sort of public dissapointment that Starfield and Redfall won't ship this year.
But that's getting them a lot of scrutiny and bad press so it probably won't last.
There are so many reasons why an experienced dev may leave the games industry (as I'm sure you know since iirc you work in tech):
-pandemic made many more people re-evaluate work-life balance, something the game industry is notoriously bad with
-boom in the tech sector means lots of companies are hiring and offering higher salaries/better benefits
-companies calling people back into the office had people leaving for fully remote roles
These are probably FAR more likely reasons for highly skilled tech professionals to leave than one or two whiny SJWs or upper management wanting an ace nonbinary Metis amputee in their next AAAA open world multiplayer looter shooter to make a cameo to check off "diversity" checkboxes.
Post by: Uncle on May 17, 2022, 10:20:35 AM
However, a common theme in many of the recent disasterpieces in gaming and film has been the apparent tendency to begin with "wokeism" and to simply try to create a flim/game around that instead of going down the established route of having a core theme/gameplay loop that the mass market can identify with and enjoy.What game would you say qualifies? What makes a game woke, anyway? Far Cry 6 has an NPC who is a trans man, but it's still a Ubisoft open-world game, i.e. undeniably aiming for mass appeal. Does that qualify?
is there any situation in which you would ever consider a game or piece of media "woke" to its own detriment? whether that means focusing on diversity as a foundational principle rather than story or entertainment, or if it means trying too hard and tripping over itself into accidentally-offensive territory, or becoming hostile to its own audience, etc.?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 17, 2022, 10:39:14 AM
Post by: Uncle on May 17, 2022, 02:03:08 PM
otherwise you're just shouting at each other in bad faith, never intending to budge from your beliefs, or fighting tooth and nail at every claim made by the other side because you're so over-committed in your own position
when you say:
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You ignore alternative easy explanations when they fit the narrative you want.
recognize that most people have a tendency to do this, and in nearly every argument you will see downplaying of things that don't match your narrative and over-emphasis of things that communicate your intended point
when I ask this:
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what suddenly crosses the line into valid for you? is there any situation in which you would say "you know what, given the evidence presented by nintex, I think he might be on to something here, there's a pretty clear pattern and strong parallels in various industries"
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is there any situation in which you would ever consider a game or piece of media "woke" to its own detriment? whether that means focusing on diversity as a foundational principle rather than story or entertainment, or if it means trying too hard and tripping over itself into accidentally-offensive territory, or becoming hostile to its own audience, etc.?
it isn't some attempt to score some minor rhetorical point, it's just in the hopes of learning if discussion is valuable at all
if your position is that nothing "woke" has ever been bad, or it's impossible for it to contribute to failings of a product or company, then downplaying the claims even IF they are nonsense rings a bit hollow
but if all you're saying is "these particular examples are shit," then that's respectable
and furthering that point, it's helpful if there IS a good example that's the exception that proves the rule, like I dunno I can't put words in your mouth
"the last few seasons of Dr. Who have really suffered for it, but that's not evidence of a widespread trend"
"yeah looking at Battlefield V broadly as a postmortem, the attitude the company took toward its fans may have been a misstep, even though it was plagued by other issues it's never helpful to add another cherry on top by telling people not to buy your game"
anything
Post by: Potato on May 17, 2022, 04:59:42 PM
The Battlefield franchise isn't exactly in the healthiest state right now.However, a common theme in many of the recent disasterpieces in gaming and film has been the apparent tendency to begin with "wokeism" and to simply try to create a flim/game around that instead of going down the established route of having a core theme/gameplay loop that the mass market can identify with and enjoy.What game would you say qualifies? What makes a game woke, anyway? Far Cry 6 has an NPC who is a trans man, but it's still a Ubisoft open-world game, i.e. undeniably aiming for mass appeal. Does that qualify?
The better examples are in the film/tv industry though. Star Wars and Star Trek being the best examples where they clearly went into the creative process with little more than: "Start Wars/Star Trek, but the main character is female" and that's about as far as it went for plot development.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 17, 2022, 05:31:36 PM
The Nintex-logic here is 1) I don't like a thing 2) I want it to fail 3) if it fails it's because of why I didn't like it and not any other plausible explanation. 4) ? 5) We are winning the war boys!
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 17, 2022, 06:11:59 PM
Post by: Nintex on May 17, 2022, 06:16:13 PM
It's funny you bring up Star Trek and in their latest review RLM points directly at the problem.
The stoic military leader Picard is reduced to reading a opera level script of 'muh feelings' about stars and hugging people.
Mike made a great analogy.
A captain on a modern day aircraft carrier (Picard) wouldn't use the same language as a 16th century explorer (New Trek Picard).
I'm honestly not sure myself if the term "SJW" is the right term for people that write and create such drivel. I would just call them hacks.
Post by: Potato on May 17, 2022, 06:28:01 PM
I thought this thread was for making fun of the culture war, not for actually culture warring :nothingIt's a himu thread, who the fuck knows what it's for...
Post by: Potato on May 17, 2022, 06:30:10 PM
Yes, but again how many movies are based on flimsy ideas and how many trilogies go to shit after the first movie? When a fourth movie is based on the flimsy idea of it's like the first movie but this time its a young version of the main character who has to learn from the old one, is that SJWs killing the movie? My god did SJWs kill the Indy franchise? It would have if new Indy was a women and not just you know, bad writing. Both Starwars and Startrek have been in the shits for a long time. The failure of Starwars was a lack of planning out a complete trilogy instead of just winging it each movie. It's weird to say that SJWs are the (major) reason why they failed, or to hypothesize that this was the major production focus and that's why everything else suffered. And then totally absurd to take those examples and establish some industry-wide theory. Like that stuff or not, it's not why the movies sucked. Imagine Endgame was a shit movie and then people said it was shit because there is a girl power scene where all the women characters team up inexplicably. Bad scene or not it wouldn't be why the movie failed or succeeded. One of the reasons why Marvel movies fail is that they focus on too many characters. When they are men. But if some of those characters are women then it's SJW ruining the movie to inject politics where it doesn't belong, spitting in the face of the artistic vision of the Marvel creative committee... It certainly wouldn't speak to wokeness-gone-amuck killing a franchise or the movie industry as a whole. Unless you are hyper-focused on culture war BS. Like Startrek is failing so badly because of all the SJW BS that they keep on announcing new series after a decade of absence. All these new shows coming out that no one wants is proof that the tide is turning on SJWs...There's circular logic to all these arguments because it is a vicious circle.
The Nintex-logic here is 1) I don't like a thing 2) I want it to fail 3) if it fails it's because of why I didn't like it and not any other plausible explanation. 4) ? 5) We are winning the war boys!
Did the shit script and lack of planning cause the new Star Wars trilogy suck or was the shit script and lack of planning caused by a singular focus on cramming SJW garbage into it as a first priority?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 17, 2022, 06:33:59 PM
We are winning the war because authenticity will always prevail.
The implication is that SJW (whom ever those are) are not authentic and the only diversity that is authentic is the one you agree with. Non-binary people in starwars is not authentic because it didn't happen in the 70's and 80's movies. Why are non-binary people trying to shoehorn themselves into MY franchise that I grew up on? Clearly, it's just movie studios trying to make a profit. Non-binary people should make their own authentic starwars. Call it Binary-stars wars. Then they wouldn't be infringing on the thing I like.
Also if Hollywood has thought us anything, it's that authenticity always prevails and leads to good movies.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 17, 2022, 06:38:59 PM
I thought this thread was for making fun of the culture war, not for actually culture warring :nothingIt's a himu thread, who the fuck knows what it's for...
It's for him to make a space where he can gather in the Nintex-minds here with promises of culture war BS and then go on a homophobic rant 5 pages later (to an audience that gave surprisingly little pushback). It's pretty clear this thread was never about mockery.
Yes, but again how many movies are based on flimsy ideas and how many trilogies go to shit after the first movie? When a fourth movie is based on the flimsy idea of it's like the first movie but this time its a young version of the main character who has to learn from the old one, is that SJWs killing the movie? My god did SJWs kill the Indy franchise? It would have if new Indy was a women and not just you know, bad writing. Both Starwars and Startrek have been in the shits for a long time. The failure of Starwars was a lack of planning out a complete trilogy instead of just winging it each movie. It's weird to say that SJWs are the (major) reason why they failed, or to hypothesize that this was the major production focus and that's why everything else suffered. And then totally absurd to take those examples and establish some industry-wide theory. Like that stuff or not, it's not why the movies sucked. Imagine Endgame was a shit movie and then people said it was shit because there is a girl power scene where all the women characters team up inexplicably. Bad scene or not it wouldn't be why the movie failed or succeeded. One of the reasons why Marvel movies fail is that they focus on too many characters. When they are men. But if some of those characters are women then it's SJW ruining the movie to inject politics where it doesn't belong, spitting in the face of the artistic vision of the Marvel creative committee... It certainly wouldn't speak to wokeness-gone-amuck killing a franchise or the movie industry as a whole. Unless you are hyper-focused on culture war BS. Like Startrek is failing so badly because of all the SJW BS that they keep on announcing new series after a decade of absence. All these new shows coming out that no one wants is proof that the tide is turning on SJWs...There's circular logic to all these arguments because it is a vicious circle.
The Nintex-logic here is 1) I don't like a thing 2) I want it to fail 3) if it fails it's because of why I didn't like it and not any other plausible explanation. 4) ? 5) We are winning the war boys!
Did the shit script and lack of planning cause the new Star Wars trilogy suck or was the shit script and lack of planning caused by a singular focus on cramming SJW garbage into it as a first priority?
It's the former not the latter. There is no circular logic. The only evidence that it was a singular focus was because it was one of the (many) things being focused, which then gets magnified in perspective by the kinds of dipshits Nintex follows on twitter.
Post by: Potato on May 17, 2022, 06:47:11 PM
There was plenty of pushback on himu's schtick and I'm pretty sure this was quite early in his heel turn towards MAGAnessI thought this thread was for making fun of the culture war, not for actually culture warring :nothingIt's a himu thread, who the fuck knows what it's for...
It's for him to make a space where he can gather in the Nintex-minds here with promises of culture war BS and then go on a homophobic rant 5 pages later (to an audience that gave surprisingly little pushback). It's pretty clear this thread was never about mockery.
It's a little bit of column A and a little bit of column B to be honest.Yes, but again how many movies are based on flimsy ideas and how many trilogies go to shit after the first movie? When a fourth movie is based on the flimsy idea of it's like the first movie but this time its a young version of the main character who has to learn from the old one, is that SJWs killing the movie? My god did SJWs kill the Indy franchise? It would have if new Indy was a women and not just you know, bad writing. Both Starwars and Startrek have been in the shits for a long time. The failure of Starwars was a lack of planning out a complete trilogy instead of just winging it each movie. It's weird to say that SJWs are the (major) reason why they failed, or to hypothesize that this was the major production focus and that's why everything else suffered. And then totally absurd to take those examples and establish some industry-wide theory. Like that stuff or not, it's not why the movies sucked. Imagine Endgame was a shit movie and then people said it was shit because there is a girl power scene where all the women characters team up inexplicably. Bad scene or not it wouldn't be why the movie failed or succeeded. One of the reasons why Marvel movies fail is that they focus on too many characters. When they are men. But if some of those characters are women then it's SJW ruining the movie to inject politics where it doesn't belong, spitting in the face of the artistic vision of the Marvel creative committee... It certainly wouldn't speak to wokeness-gone-amuck killing a franchise or the movie industry as a whole. Unless you are hyper-focused on culture war BS. Like Startrek is failing so badly because of all the SJW BS that they keep on announcing new series after a decade of absence. All these new shows coming out that no one wants is proof that the tide is turning on SJWs...There's circular logic to all these arguments because it is a vicious circle.
The Nintex-logic here is 1) I don't like a thing 2) I want it to fail 3) if it fails it's because of why I didn't like it and not any other plausible explanation. 4) ? 5) We are winning the war boys!
Did the shit script and lack of planning cause the new Star Wars trilogy suck or was the shit script and lack of planning caused by a singular focus on cramming SJW garbage into it as a first priority?
It's the former not the latter. There is no circular logic. The only evidence that it was a singular focus was because it was one of the (many) things being focused, which then gets magnified in perspective by the kinds of dipshits Nintex follows on twitter.
Post by: benjipwns on May 17, 2022, 07:02:40 PM
It's funny you bring up Star Trek and in their latest review RLM points directly at the problem.So it's TNG?
The stoic military leader Picard is reduced to reading a opera level script of 'muh feelings' about stars and hugging people.
Did the shit script and lack of planning cause the new Star Wars trilogy suck or was the shit script and lack of planning caused by a singular focus on cramming SJW garbage into it as a first priority?What did you find to be the "singular focus on cramming SJW garbage" that was in the latest Star Wars trilogy?
Post by: Uncle on May 17, 2022, 07:06:20 PM
I thought this thread was for making fun of the culture war, not for actually culture warring :nothing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSufJgCXwnw
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 17, 2022, 07:08:44 PM
Post by: Nintex on May 17, 2022, 07:12:33 PM
I will give you an example that I thought was ridiculous in a recent piece of media.
In the new Dr. Strange there's a Latin girl called "America" which is already a weird name for a girl in a different universe but whatever.
She has 2 mothers, they get 3 seconds of screen time as they are sucked into the void.
That's her entire backstory and that's all we see of the 2 mothers in the entire movie.
Was the fact that she has no father a token representation to score some diversity points or did it enhance the plot of the movie?
Compare that to say the 2 inseparable dudes in the Old Guard or the Berlin, Palermo, Helsinki and Manila characters in La Casa de Papel.
Why would you applaud Disney for doing the absolute bare stereotypical minimum?
Wouldn't it be much more interesting if in one of the multi-verses Dr. Strange is gay and married to a villain?
Let's switch it around. Say you have some sort of high quality romantic comedy or drama and you add a single scene where Jason Statham fires a rocket launcher and blows up a helicopter and you never mention it again.
Then you say: "See, this is totally a straight up dudebro movie". That's literally what Disney is doing.
Post by: Uncle on May 17, 2022, 07:15:14 PM
It's funny you bring up Star Trek and in their latest review RLM points directly at the problem.So it's TNG?
The stoic military leader Picard is reduced to reading a opera level script of 'muh feelings' about stars and hugging people.
https://www.youtubetrimmer.com/view/?v=UsaTdqhd6eg&start=1502&end=1605&loop=0
Post by: benjipwns on May 17, 2022, 07:25:32 PM
I will give you an example that I thought was ridiculous in a recent piece of media.America Chavez is a pre-existing Marvel character and that's part of the character's backstory.
In the new Dr. Strange there's a Latin girl called "America" which is already a weird name for a girl in a different universe but whatever.
She has 2 mothers, they get 3 seconds of screen time as they are sucked into the void.
That's her entire backstory and that's all we see of the 2 mothers in the entire movie.
Was the fact that she has no father a token representation to score some diversity points or did it enhance the plot of the movie?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 17, 2022, 07:27:37 PM
Non-binary people have been in Star Wars since the beginning with 3CPO.
I will give you an example that I thought was ridiculous in a recent piece of media.
In the new Dr. Strange there's a Latin girl called "America" which is already a weird name for a girl in a different universe but whatever.
She has 2 mothers, they get 3 seconds of screen time as they are sucked into the void.
That's her entire backstory and that's all we see of the 2 mothers in the entire movie.
Was the fact that she has no father a token representation to score some diversity points or did it enhance the plot of the movie?
But it also didn't distract from anything unless you are prone to having knee-jerk anti-SJW reactions to shit. If your reaction to an attempt to normalize having two mothers and an easy way of having any kind of LGBT inclusion is rollies-eyes, Disney is just trying to make money, because you know they didn't make the entire movie for that purpose, then maybe it's your reaction that is the problem. It's a Strange example to bring up. Why is the default of having a father and mother non-intrustive but having two mothers an invasion on authenticity?
Post by: benjipwns on May 17, 2022, 07:44:44 PM
Alternative theory: "America Chavez fits for this role and as a plus she checks diversity boxes X, Y and Z."
Post by: Potato on May 17, 2022, 07:56:24 PM
I was talking about the production as a whole, not any specific parts of the films. Overall, there was a singular focus on cramming SJW shit in those films as a priority over any focus on actually creating a coherent story.Did the shit script and lack of planning cause the new Star Wars trilogy suck or was the shit script and lack of planning caused by a singular focus on cramming SJW garbage into it as a first priority?What did you find to be the "singular focus on cramming SJW garbage" that was in the latest Star Wars trilogy?
I don't care if my Jedi films feature Mary Sue characters, just don't assume that because you've created a "strong female character™" that you don't have to create a decent flick.
Post by: benjipwns on May 17, 2022, 08:04:16 PM
Post by: Potato on May 17, 2022, 08:56:56 PM
Captain Phasma - why was she even there if not to satisfy some sort of diversity roster?
Holdo - this has been covered endlessly, so why repeat it again? Men bad, men aggressive, woman knows better than bad men, purple hair.
Canto Bight - war is bad, war is caused by rich white men, horse-racing bad.
Poe Dameron - toxic masculinity incarnate
Luke Skywalker - intentionally emasculating him to drive the man is bad message.
First Order - for a series so intent on diversity, there was a startling lack of it in the bad guys.
Now, I know you are going to say that these are all perfectly normal themes to cover in a film, but you need to consider them in context of my earlier point that the production pushed these things AT THE COST of concentrating on a coherent story and characters.
What is most glaring is that many of these themes were covered in the original trilogy, but done so in a manner which was not to the detriment of the film.
Instead, the singular focus on creating SJW Star Wars created barriers to a decent, coherent story which was personified by needing to bring back Palpatine because the space Nazis needed a space Hitler/Trump.
The culture war being the film's raison d'etre is the problem here.
Post by: benjipwns on May 17, 2022, 09:06:51 PM
you need to consider them in context of my earlier point that the production pushed these things AT THE COST of concentrating on a coherent story and characters.I don't need to consider that considering it's just your original claim restated yet again.
You're trying to substitute a claim that there was some nefarious agenda at work as "a singular focus" for the more plausible theory that a well known hack coming off two films in another franchise where he did all the same exact things and well known management issues resulted in trash. Rogue One had all the same diversity, the studio took over the movie to reshoot and recut who knows how much of it, and it was vastly more successful because it actually started with a singular focus.
Post by: Potato on May 17, 2022, 09:24:36 PM
Rogue One does not have the same level of forced SJW bullshit as the new trilogy. It has a diverse cast, but that in itself is not forced SJW bullshit on the level of the new trilogy films.you need to consider them in context of my earlier point that the production pushed these things AT THE COST of concentrating on a coherent story and characters.I don't need to consider that considering it's just your original claim restated yet again.
You're trying to substitute a claim that there was some nefarious agenda at work as "a singular focus" for the more plausible theory that a well known hack coming off two films in another franchise where he did all the same exact things and well known management issues resulted in trash. Rogue One had all the same diversity, the studio took over the movie to reshoot and recut who knows how much of it, and it was vastly more successful because it actually started with a plot.
The bolded part is exactly my point though.
What exactly is your argument here aside from disagreeing with me for the sake of it?
Post by: benjipwns on May 17, 2022, 09:27:20 PM
Post by: Potato on May 17, 2022, 09:39:34 PM
I'm disputing your claim that there was a "singular focus" on social studies warrior garbage/shit/bullshit that was the cause for the bad work. Is your claim that JJ Abrams did this intentionally rather than just continuing to be bad at what he does? Or that Kathleen Kennedy ordered him to and threatened to fire him if he deviated rather than just being bad at what she does as she seems to have proven since?It can't be both?
Kathleen Kennedy went into it with those intentions AND JJ Abrams and Rhian Johnson leant into it in a big way resulting in a massive clusterfuck where no one actually questioned whether there was actually a good film being made sounds like the most plausible explanation to me and is the pretty much the definition of "a singular focus" (i.e. creative and business side with the same agenda).
Post by: benjipwns on May 17, 2022, 11:38:58 PM
Post by: Potato on May 18, 2022, 02:09:41 AM
Seems there's an effort to cancel him for an 11 year old photo
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1526371470439374848
Post by: Rufus on May 18, 2022, 06:08:41 AM
while plucking out one single statement from questions and examples that would have actually assisted in elaborating further...as you decry a lack of elaborationLook, you only showed that you know where I come from. An asspull is not a perspective. We're not in academia or debate club. And the stakes could not be any lower.
I understand you don't respect the perspectives of people whose opinions run counter to yours, but if that's the case it's better not to dignify it with a response than to say "ur rong" as an own-goal
So, 'big topic, big think' and blinkered oversimplifications aside, this...
"fascism is on the rise globally, you can see this by conservatives being elected and doing everything they can to maintain their power underhandedly"...is an approriate exchange. Zero effort in either direction.
"yes but historically there's always an ebb and flow, sometimes democrats win elections and sometimes republicans do"
Post by: Rufus on May 18, 2022, 06:37:09 AM
is there any situation in which you would ever consider a game or piece of media "woke" to its own detriment?If it handled its subject matter badly, as any other game.
whether that means focusing on diversity as a foundational principle rather than story or entertainment,Are there examples of this?
Outside of Itch.io, preferably. People there know they're making niche games. Or 'games', as it were.
or if it means trying too hard and tripping over itself into accidentally-offensive territory,The Medium comes to mind.
or becoming hostile to its own audience, etc.?This is what I would want most to see an example of.
To be clear, every entry in a franchise can lose it fans for one reason or another. I'm thinking back-breaking stuff here.
Post by: Uncle on May 18, 2022, 10:42:04 AM
whether that means focusing on diversity as a foundational principle rather than story or entertainment,Are there examples of this?
Outside of Itch.io, preferably. People there know they're making niche games. Or 'games', as it were.
honestly I was wondering about others' opinions on this, I didn't have any particular examples in mind, just curious about the subject
the issue here is that you can't prove anything unless the creator specifically says so, and even in cases like that you often find people trying to argue that they were being facetious, joking or otherwise incorrect
the closest thing to a definitive answer on something like that would be a large consensus from its audience
for example it's like saying, the developers clearly chopped this finished game up to sell it piecemeal as DLC. how can anyone prove that unless it's admitted? yet surely there must be examples? do we reject all claims of this just because no dev is dumb enough to admit it?
or if it means trying too hard and tripping over itself into accidentally-offensive territory,The Medium comes to mind.
I'm not familiar with The Medium
the examples I always remember along these lines are mass effect and baldur's gate siege of dragonspear's trans characters who immediately announce themselves as trans to the player and deadname themselves, which trans players claimed to be offended by, since the goal of being trans is to BE the other gender and not have anyone even think of you as trans
another on the opposite side from this might be Tell Me Why, which was criticized for "wrapping its LGBT characters in bubble wrap," (https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3z4vg/tell-me-why-smothers-its-representation-in-bubble-wrap) refusing to subject them to any discomfort and presenting an unrealistically accepting world
and of course you can say, the steps toward being more inclusive are always going to be riddled with mistakes that are fixed over time, and trying is better than not trying, but this is just specifically on the subject of whether it's ever been damaging to the game in some way (both of the deadname examples were apologized-for and later patched)
or becoming hostile to its own audience, etc.?This is what I would want most to see an example of.
To be clear, every entry in a franchise can lose it fans for one reason or another. I'm thinking back-breaking stuff here.
well I mean this in the sense that the creators tell people to fuck off if they don't like their diversity, and in response the audience shrugs and does fuck off
there have been a number of examples of this over the years, though as usual it would be hard to quantify
Battlefield V was one, (https://www.gamedeveloper.com/console/-this-is-not-okay-ea-minces-no-words-on-backlash-against-women-in-i-battlefield-i-) and even though it sold well as any well-funded brand game does, it missed sales targets by quite a bit
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"And we don't take any flak. We stand up for the cause, because I think those people who don't understand it, well, you have two choices: either accept it or don't buy the game. I'm fine with either or. It's just not ok."
indie games are more prone to these kinds of outbursts since they usually don't have a social media manager
Goodbye Volcano High which I mentioned earlier is hostile to any potential audience which offers less than 100% praise, but that game's not even out yet, and even so would not have much basis of comparison to say "yes it performed badly by this metric"
Caves of Qud was enthusiastically reviewed by problematic youtuber SsethTzeentach (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_PBfLbd3zw)...he got 4 million new eyeballs on the game and the devs threw a huge fit and are paranoid to this day about anyone from his audience enjoying the game
(it's a game you slowly realize is a sexless "safe" transformation fetish game for the devs, and you're not supposed to agree with or want to roleplay as the fascist paladin faction in the game that wants to purge all the bizarre mutants)
(https://i.imgur.com/NsVlJUo.png)
Post by: Nintex on May 18, 2022, 03:10:28 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTDQrY6WIAAHjZ2?format=jpg)
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"We can draw a straight line from our hundreds of childhood hours spent watching Bugs outwit Elmer to the current slate of adult animated projects we are building here at HBO Max and we think fans will agree. We are proud to introduce this distinctive group of series from a wide range of diverse creators that will form a first stop destination for animation lovers everywhere."
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"reimagine what Scooby-Doo would be like if Velma were of East Asian descent and lived in a different world. And so in that version, which is going on HBO Max first, there's no dog and there's no van:titus
The mention of Elmer and Bugs is quite possibly a threat.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 18, 2022, 03:13:25 PM
Post by: james on May 19, 2022, 12:56:52 AM
The SJWs at Hannah Barbara went woke with forced diversity and it resulted in.... The best scooby doo series?
(https://static.miraheze.org/besttvshowswiki/1/12/The_13_Ghosts_of_Scooby-Doo.jpg)
Looks like the entire Nintex theory has been destroyed
Post by: Rufus on May 19, 2022, 01:53:00 PM
for example it's like saying, the developers clearly chopped this finished game up to sell it piecemeal as DLC. how can anyone prove that unless it's admitted? yet surely there must be examples? do we reject all claims of this just because no dev is dumb enough to admit it?Unlock codes for on-disc content used to get headlines. I don't think anybody cares any more. And given where we're at with post-release monetization...
I'm not familiar with The MediumAbout mid-game, you play through some key traumas of a pedophile. I don't remember if his proclivities are hinted at before you explore his past (I want to say yes), or if they pull the rug, so to speak. Either way, swing-and-a-miss, like the rest of the story.
(For an all-around B-game, I enjoyed it. But I would also not have played it if not for Game Pass. I don't think it will be remembered. Not unless its developer, Blooper, actually gets to make (or re-make) a Silent Hill game in the end.)
the examples I always remember along these lines are mass effect and baldur's gate siege of dragonspear's trans characters who immediately announce themselves as trans to the player and deadname themselves, which trans players claimed to be offended by, since the goal of being trans is to BE the other gender and not have anyone even think of you as transMass Effect's turn on letting you screw every alien? I've always written that off as pandering to the 'I wonder what Tali's sweat tastes like'-faction from their forums.
Dragonspear's 'controversy' I've found to be completely overblown. One badly written NPC turning into some lynchpin issue is silly, when the entire premise (mid-quel to a decades old series made on the same tech) dooms it to obscurity. Made for good fodder on RPGCodex though, I bet.
and of course you can say, the steps toward being more inclusive are always going to be riddled with mistakes that are fixed over time, and trying is better than not trying, but this is just specifically on the subject of whether it's ever been damaging to the game in some way (both of the deadname examples were apologized-for and later patched)On social media and in critical reception, for sure. I lean toward storm in a teacup, personally, but I have no way of knowing for sure.
And I do see this as growing pains, yes. Though that doesn't mean that video games writing will suddenly be elevated beyond pulp in most cases. They'll just be more or less "of their time", depending on how things go.
there have been a number of examples of this over the years, though as usual it would be hard to quantifyThat's where I fall on most of these. Any blunder on a hot-button issue has the potential to turn someone off. And in general, the more story-heavy a game is, the more vulnerable they are to even having hot-button issues. But in the end, who the fuck knows? I have a hard time making definitive statements beyond that and am dubious when people do.
indie games are more prone to these kinds of outbursts since they usually don't have a social media managerAnd because the devs are more accessible and more invested, as any idividual 'owns' a greater portion of the whole, etc.
Goodbye Volcano High which I mentioned earlier is hostile to any potential audience which offers less than 100% praise, but that game's not even out yet, and even so would not have much basis of comparison to say "yes it performed badly by this metric"
The GVH devs appear to be in panic mode, for sure. Maybe the Sony spotlight or morbid curiosity alone will be enough to put them in the black. My bet is nobody will be talking about it within a week of release.
Caves of Qud was enthusiastically reviewed by problematic youtuber SsethTzeentach (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_PBfLbd3zw)...he got 4 million new eyeballs on the game and the devs threw a huge fit and are paranoid to this day about anyone from his audience enjoying the gameI'm reminded of Campo Santo asking PewDiePie to take down his Let's Play of Firewatch after he had his 'gamer moment'. On the one hand, I completely understand and it was their right to do, but on the other hand - does it really matter? I can only assume that they felt forced to after publicly repudiating him. The moral high ground alone is worth it, I guess. This seems to be a similar case.
(it's a game you slowly realize is a sexless "safe" transformation fetish game for the devs, and you're not supposed to agree with or want to roleplay as the fascist paladin faction in the game that wants to purge all the bizarre mutants)
Judging by the Steam reviews for Caves of Qud, this feud has not hurt them. The opposite, in fact. So either Seth's fans don't care, or the dev didn't need to try and dissociate themselves from him.
Post by: Tasty on May 19, 2022, 01:57:39 PM
https://twitter.com/MagsVisaggs/status/1520875292331548678
Honestly, thank God. I couldn't take it if the next Trump failed basic English as well.
An author would be a breath of fresh air.
Also I think JK is liberal otherwise, but who knows where she could be pushed to.
Post by: Tasty on May 19, 2022, 01:58:29 PM
FACT CHECK
The SJWs at Hannah Barbara went woke with forced diversity and it resulted in.... The best scooby doo series?
(https://static.miraheze.org/besttvshowswiki/1/12/The_13_Ghosts_of_Scooby-Doo.jpg)
Looks like the entire Nintex theory has been destroyed
Surely you don't mean Flim-Flam...
Post by: benjipwns on May 19, 2022, 02:01:22 PM
Also I think JK is liberal otherwise, but who knows where she could be pushed to.She has donated millions to the Labour Party but there's a whole segment of Twitter convinced she's a long time fascist who has turned into a social conservative who wants to eliminate womens and gay rights.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on May 19, 2022, 02:07:42 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 19, 2022, 02:17:41 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 19, 2022, 07:39:56 PM
:hmm
Post by: james on May 20, 2022, 12:13:02 AM
FACT CHECK
The SJWs at Hannah Barbara went woke with forced diversity and it resulted in.... The best scooby doo series?
(https://static.miraheze.org/besttvshowswiki/1/12/The_13_Ghosts_of_Scooby-Doo.jpg)
Looks like the entire Nintex theory has been destroyed
Surely you don't mean Flim-Flam...
Flim flam is from Tibet.
Vincent Van Ghoul is an honorary latino
Post by: Nintex on May 21, 2022, 12:43:16 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTLyckNXwAAy6eK?format=jpg)
https://twitter.com/CursedModernism/status/1528048412825886724 (https://twitter.com/CursedModernism/status/1528048412825886724)
Post by: D3RANG3D on May 21, 2022, 01:08:04 PM
"They" made gadget breed with the insect :dead
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTLyckNXwAAy6eK?format=jpg)
https://twitter.com/CursedModernism/status/1528048412825886724 (https://twitter.com/CursedModernism/status/1528048412825886724)
(https://i.imgur.com/GitNj75.png)
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 21, 2022, 01:26:31 PM
Post by: D3RANG3D on May 21, 2022, 02:09:00 PM
idgi :confused
For the Chip context look above and this...
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tE3ee0ZQZgY
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Post by: Nintex on May 21, 2022, 05:43:19 PM
Post by: Potato on May 21, 2022, 06:40:18 PM
(https://i.imgflip.com/6h1bgr.jpg)
Made more complicated by the fact that PSG are owned by Qatar where being homosexual is illegal.
Post by: benjipwns on May 23, 2022, 09:33:14 AM
Post by: Uncle on May 23, 2022, 10:48:26 AM
"They" made gadget breed with the insect :dead
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTLyckNXwAAy6eK?format=jpg)
https://twitter.com/CursedModernism/status/1528048412825886724 (https://twitter.com/CursedModernism/status/1528048412825886724)
oddly you would expect a strong return for gadget in the movie since she was one of the original "girls can do anything" characters (which no one had a problem with)
instead they turned her into a conservative tradwife ???
Post by: benjipwns on May 23, 2022, 02:07:11 PM
Quote from: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/05/disney-desantis-corporations-democrats-republicans/629931/
Now it’s Democrats who—feeling a bit adrift, having lost control of the courts and seemingly unable to pass meaningful federal legislation—take solace in the idea that corporations are people, nothing more than the avatars of their employees and customers. That’s why Disney personnel were outraged when CEO Bob Chapek argued that the company shouldn’t weigh in on Florida’s Parental Rights in Education Bill, which proponents say is necessary to protect children from age-inappropriate sex education and opponents decry as the “Don’t Say Gay” bill that would force teachers back in the closet. In hindsight, Chapek was right that the Mouse House would be used as a cudgel in the culture war to the detriment of both the cause and the corporation. But that didn’t matter to Disney’s rank and file. What mattered was the company taking a stand and doing the right thing.
Meanwhile it’s Republicans—many of whom slammed efforts to silence Chick-fil-A—who were excited to see Florida Governor Ron DeSantis using the levers of government to stifle Disney’s criticism of the legislation. The right wing’s sense of cultural impotence and its frustration with the success of accountability-free “woke capital” to change the country’s cultural direction prompted a reactionary move. The party of “corporations are people” is furious that the people who make up those corporations would push their employer to act in their perceived interests.
The move on the left to embrace the “corporations are people, my friend” ethos isn’t limited to the Disney mess. It’s why the video-game maker Bungie feels the need to weigh in on Roe v. Wade and why a news outlet would call 20 video-game makers asking them to weigh in on Roe v. Wade and why PlayStation’s CEO would get dragged for spending more time talking about his cats than weighing in on Roe’s potential reversal.
All of this makes perfect sense if one understands it to be the inevitable result of workism, the Atlantic writer Derek Thompson’s term for the religious-like sentiment that accompanies so much of modern work life. Whereas religion was once the hub around which many of us oriented our lives, the office—what we do there, whom we do it with, and for whom we do it—has replaced the church as the center of our social life.
“The best-educated and highest-earning Americans, who can have whatever they want, have chosen the office for the same reason that devout Christians attend church on Sundays: It’s where they feel most themselves,” Thompson wrote. “The American conception of work has shifted from jobs to careers to callings—from necessity to status to meaning.”
Meanwhile, the right has rejected its corporate-friendly ethos equally speedily for reasons that don’t extend far beyond “If you’re not with us, you’re against us.” The motivation is less ideological than punitive, which you can see best in Republican Senator Josh Hawley’s bill “to strip Disney of special copyright protections.” Disney has no special copyright protections; the copyright law in question may exist partly as a result of Disney’s lobbying to maintain control over Mickey Mouse, but it covers all holders of copyright. That said, Hawley has phrased his nonsense bill—a repudiation of the Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act, literally named for a Republican congressman—in this way to make clear whom he’s against rather than what he’s for.
...
In the face of such a revision, it’s a fool’s game to try to lay out new rules. We’re at a delicate moment in the country’s history, one in which rules and fairness matter less to voters or their champions—in boardrooms or Congress—than pure power and the will to use it. With luck, the courts will serve as a bulwark against government excess and the market will serve to correct businesses that step beyond their purview. My hope is that companies, of their own accord, will limit their lobbying to laws that actually affect their business while providing employees encouragement to pursue political goals on their own time, and that politicians will stop pursuing strictures on speech, corporate or otherwise, that they don’t like.
But for that to come to pass would require something like a de-escalation in the culture war. And I fear that Jonathan Haidt is right: Things are almost certainly going to get worse on that front before they get better.
Post by: Potato on May 23, 2022, 10:29:13 PM
https://www.woolworths.com.au/shop/productdetails/178510/woolworths-roast-chicken-stuffed-kyiv
Post by: james on May 24, 2022, 11:33:59 AM
Looks like Musk is losing his culture war.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 24, 2022, 01:54:49 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 24, 2022, 02:07:11 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 24, 2022, 02:07:26 PM
Post by: Nintex on May 24, 2022, 02:28:41 PM
Tesla shares continue to crater.This culture war cannot be won or lost as both sides keep moving goal posts.
Looks like Musk is losing his culture war.
It will last forever.
Post by: james on May 24, 2022, 03:00:56 PM
Tesla shares continue to crater.This culture war cannot be won or lost as both sides keep moving goal posts.
Looks like Musk is losing his culture war.
It will last forever.
FACT check:
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Margin Call Alert: Tesla Stock Falling Below $400 Would Force Elon Musk to Sell 13 Million Shares of EV Maker to Fund Twitter Deal - Bernstein's Sacconaghihttps://archive.ph/B5hw6#selection-2826.0-2826.3
Tesla Inc
623.92 USD −50.98 (7.55%)
today
:pika
Post by: Potato on May 24, 2022, 03:51:36 PM
https://twitter.com/lizzywol/status/1528829895568130051Holy shit. Mercedes fucking Lackey! These people are absolutely fucked in the head...and it's not as if they don't know who she is and what she has stood for in a long career writing science fiction.
Mercedes Lackey was an "ally" before all those idiots were even able to read.
Post by: Nintex on May 26, 2022, 06:31:02 PM
:trumps
Post by: D3RANG3D on May 26, 2022, 07:41:27 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 26, 2022, 07:50:21 PM
Post by: Potato on May 27, 2022, 02:51:30 AM
https://twitter.com/TheAtlantic/status/1529895991368986629 (https://twitter.com/TheAtlantic/status/1529895991368986629)Can't help but eat their own.
:trumps
Impossible purity standards just lead to people saying, "You know what? Fuck you!"
Post by: Polident Hive on May 27, 2022, 09:05:03 PM
https://www.wsj.com/articles/top-gun-maverick-loses-chinese-investor-due-to-pro-u-s-messaging-11653643803
Post by: VomKriege on May 28, 2022, 03:37:16 AM
Post by: Nintex on May 28, 2022, 05:36:49 AM
:success
Post by: benjipwns on May 28, 2022, 08:01:31 PM
https://twitter.com/marquisele/status/1529931085580320797
https://twitter.com/marquisele/status/1529932097565212687
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/borgposting/status/1530223127011241984
https://twitter.com/borgposting/status/1530360568594501635
https://twitter.com/HeyImPostinHere/status/1530225862221643777
https://twitter.com/borgposting/status/1530360568594501635
https://twitter.com/HeyImPostinHere/status/1530225862221643777
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(https://i.imgur.com/Weymuux.png)
om nom nom nom :mouf
Post by: Nintex on May 29, 2022, 05:41:34 AM
:bowsette
Post by: D3RANG3D on May 29, 2022, 05:44:45 AM
https://twitter.com/XRLlareggub/status/1530587526485921793 (https://twitter.com/XRLlareggub/status/1530587526485921793)
:bowsette
(https://i.imgur.com/k2CVWKQ.png)
Post by: Nintex on May 29, 2022, 06:10:32 AM
Woman+ has some upgrades:
- Bear companion for Banjo & Kazooie roleplaying
- 3 hands for multi-tasking (as well as built-in smartphone holder)
- micro-penis for easier urination
https://twitter.com/XRLlareggub/status/1530587526485921793 (https://twitter.com/XRLlareggub/status/1530587526485921793)
:bowsette
Meanwhile on the other end of the uh, spectrum
https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1530569025390092288 (https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1530569025390092288)
(https://i.imgflip.com/6hvmei.jpg)
Post by: VomKriege on May 29, 2022, 05:09:43 PM
Post by: VomKriege on May 29, 2022, 05:42:53 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 29, 2022, 09:12:11 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FT2QUu8XwAQ2VRr?format=jpg&name=small)
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Post by: D3RANG3D on May 29, 2022, 09:43:20 PM
Post by: Potato on May 30, 2022, 12:23:52 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FT2QUvBWIAEGCsf?format=jpg&name=small)In his defence, he did say that he'd never heard anyone in his electorate use the term, not that he'd never used the term.spoiler (click to show/hide)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FT2QUu8XwAQ2VRr?format=jpg&name=small)[close]
His question was asking why it became the default term to use in government, which explains why he used it.
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2022, 07:59:10 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FT7KX8HWAAE-FTR?format=png&name=900x900)
:lol
Post by: MMaRsu on May 30, 2022, 12:06:59 PM
:mindblown
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 30, 2022, 12:08:00 PM
Post by: BIONIC on May 30, 2022, 01:20:23 PM
Post by: MMaRsu on May 30, 2022, 01:28:02 PM
Post by: Polident Hive on May 30, 2022, 06:16:20 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Weymuux.png)
om nom nom nom :mouf
Two profile things I’m always confused by. When fat is listed next to disability, race, class, and sexual orientation. The vagueness of disability. Saw somebody list disability and when pressed, said it referred to ADHD. Technically, yeah? Sure. Anyway, ending any stigmatization towards people overweight? absolutely. Just don’t get how it’s comparable.
Post by: chronovore on May 30, 2022, 07:49:56 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FT7KUarWQAAp8E0?format=png&name=small)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FT7KX8HWAAE-FTR?format=png&name=900x900)
:lol
This is, honestly, why we progressives constantly fail. There are fun-ruiners throughout our populace that will tell us that we're unacceptable, that our methods are unacceptable, that our "help" is unwanted. JFC, it's a goddamned joke, and it's a good one.
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2022, 11:57:17 PM
https://twitter.com/EdiblesForDogs/status/1531419072994627584
https://twitter.com/CommitteeElect/status/1531475626741440514
Post by: VomKriege on May 31, 2022, 12:38:57 AM
Because we're going to murder them. Responsibly.
https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1529864405953003522
:engel
Post by: benjipwns on May 31, 2022, 12:46:29 AM
https://twitter.com/guaransheed/status/1531483117487132673
https://twitter.com/tinybaby/status/1531483934839787520
https://twitter.com/tinybaby/status/1531484186930036737
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/tinybaby/status/1531477806818918400
https://twitter.com/tinybaby/status/1531482274109308933
https://twitter.com/tinybaby/status/1531482651428802560
https://twitter.com/tinybaby/status/1531483331224915968
https://twitter.com/tinybaby/status/1531482274109308933
https://twitter.com/tinybaby/status/1531482651428802560
https://twitter.com/tinybaby/status/1531483331224915968
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Post by: james on May 31, 2022, 11:24:35 AM
Quote
Yet Williams does not utter the word “suicide” to her front-facing camera, or type it in her captions, for fear the TikTok algorithm will censor or remove her content. Instead, she uses the word “unalive.”
The hashtag #unalivemeplease has 9.2 million views on TikTok; #unaliving has 6.6 million; #unaliveawareness has an additional 2.2 million. Though #suicideprevention is a frequently used tag on the app, the hashtags #suicide and #suicideawareness do not exist—if you search for them, TikTok pulls up the number for a local crisis helpline. It’s a well-intentioned policy, initiated in September 2021, a year after a graphic video of a suicide spread across the app. But users have also come to fear elusive content moderation filters that seemingly suppress or remove videos discussing death, suicide, or self-harm.
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2022/05/are-tiktok-algorithms-changing-how-people-talk-about-suicide/
:juche
Post by: Nintex on May 31, 2022, 01:07:23 PM
Suicide has been cancelledWhat an interesting article about /gaming/ :trumpsQuoteYet Williams does not utter the word “suicide” to her front-facing camera, or type it in her captions, for fear the TikTok algorithm will censor or remove her content. Instead, she uses the word “unalive.”
The hashtag #unalivemeplease has 9.2 million views on TikTok; #unaliving has 6.6 million; #unaliveawareness has an additional 2.2 million. Though #suicideprevention is a frequently used tag on the app, the hashtags #suicide and #suicideawareness do not exist—if you search for them, TikTok pulls up the number for a local crisis helpline. It’s a well-intentioned policy, initiated in September 2021, a year after a graphic video of a suicide spread across the app. But users have also come to fear elusive content moderation filters that seemingly suppress or remove videos discussing death, suicide, or self-harm.
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2022/05/are-tiktok-algorithms-changing-how-people-talk-about-suicide/
:juche
Post by: Potato on May 31, 2022, 02:46:36 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 31, 2022, 02:50:52 PM
Post by: james on May 31, 2022, 02:52:47 PM
Imagine being suicidal and worrying about your future subscriber numbers?
I will kill myself if this post doesn't get at least two likes
Post by: Uncle on May 31, 2022, 02:52:53 PM
Post by: BIONIC on May 31, 2022, 03:15:28 PM
Imagine being suicidal and worrying about your future subscriber numbers?
I will kill myself if this post doesn't get at least two likes
Like this post and I’ll like yours :sistine
Post by: Potato on May 31, 2022, 07:18:09 PM
Well....we're waiting!Imagine being suicidal and worrying about your future subscriber numbers?
I will kill myself if this post doesn't get at least two likes
Post by: BIONIC on May 31, 2022, 07:22:39 PM
Post by: james on May 31, 2022, 08:06:53 PM
Well....we're waiting!Imagine being suicidal and worrying about your future subscriber numbers?
I will kill myself if this post doesn't get at least two likes
Transhuman, Nintex and BIONIC like this.
Post by: Potato on May 31, 2022, 11:18:48 PM
Pussies. There were no likes when I posted that.Well....we're waiting!Imagine being suicidal and worrying about your future subscriber numbers?
I will kill myself if this post doesn't get at least two likes
Transhuman, Nintex and BIONIC like this.
At least two of you should unlike that immediately
Post by: Potato on May 31, 2022, 11:20:17 PM
I will kill James if this post gets at least two likes.Imagine being suicidal and worrying about your future subscriber numbers?
I will kill myself if this post doesn't get at least two likes
Post by: BIONIC on June 01, 2022, 05:12:29 AM
I will kill James if this post gets at least two likes.Imagine being suicidal and worrying about your future subscriber numbers?
I will kill myself if this post doesn't get at least two likes
https://youtu.be/Z0YIJQ1jgEI
Post by: BIONIC on June 01, 2022, 05:38:23 AM
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 01, 2022, 05:39:14 AM
Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 01, 2022, 07:47:47 AM
Suicide has been cancelledQuoteYet Williams does not utter the word “suicide” to her front-facing camera, or type it in her captions, for fear the TikTok algorithm will censor or remove her content. Instead, she uses the word “unalive.”
The hashtag #unalivemeplease has 9.2 million views on TikTok; #unaliving has 6.6 million; #unaliveawareness has an additional 2.2 million. Though #suicideprevention is a frequently used tag on the app, the hashtags #suicide and #suicideawareness do not exist—if you search for them, TikTok pulls up the number for a local crisis helpline. It’s a well-intentioned policy, initiated in September 2021, a year after a graphic video of a suicide spread across the app. But users have also come to fear elusive content moderation filters that seemingly suppress or remove videos discussing death, suicide, or self-harm.
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2022/05/are-tiktok-algorithms-changing-how-people-talk-about-suicide/
:juche
They should honestly all commit unalive, in Minecraft.
Post by: benjipwns on June 02, 2022, 05:49:40 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUQ7WpAWIAE3y8c?format=jpg&name=small)
https://twitter.com/adamdavidson/status/1532307935233290240
https://twitter.com/ericacbarnett/status/1532089647702036480
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FURDmyeVIAISH41?format=jpg&name=small)
https://twitter.com/anitasarkeesian/status/1532083864641753088
https://twitter.com/anitasarkeesian/status/1532092637460672512
https://twitter.com/NewYorker/status/1532371840336908293
Quote from: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jun/01/amber-heard-johnny-depp-trial-metoo-backlash
The trial has turned into a public orgy of misogyny. While most of the vitriol is nominally directed at Heard, it is hard to shake the feeling that really, it is directed at all women – and in particular, at those of us who spoke out about gendered abuse and sexual violence during the height of the #MeToo movement. We are in a moment of virulent antifeminist backlash, and the modest gains that were made in that era are being retracted with a gleeful display of victim-blaming at a massive scale. One woman has been made into a symbol of a movement that many view with fear and hatred, and she’s being punished for that movement. In this way, Heard is still in an abusive relationship. But now, it’s not just with Depp, but with the whole country.
Quote from: https://www.vox.com/culture/23150632/johnny-depp-amber-heard-trial-verdict-me-too-backlash
Johnny Depp’s legal victory and the death of Roe v. Wade are part of the same toxic cultural movement.:mouf
After five years of anticipation, it’s now clear: The long-awaited and much-dreaded backlash to the Me Too movement is here.
On May 2, a draft leaked of a Supreme Court opinion that would strike down Roe v. Wade and, with it, American women’s rights to reproductive freedom. On June 1, Johnny Depp won his defamation suit against Amber Heard, who alleged that he abused her. Depp’s argument, which the jury apparently agreed with, was that Heard had in fact abused him and lied about it. (Heard won one count of defamation of her own, against Depp’s former lawyer Adam Waldman.) It’s only fitting that the cultural moment that began with women speaking out against the powerful men who they say hurt them announced its end by the courts finding in favor of one of those men.
Every wave of feminist activism is greeted by a backlash. The political action of the 1970s met the reactionary work of Phyllis Schlafly and her cohort, who killed the Equal Rights Amendment. The girl-power ethos of ’90s third-wave feminism gave way to the virginity-obsessed purity culture of the Bush era. And now, five years after the Me Too movement entered its most public phase with the 2017 downfall of Harvey Weinstein, fourth-wave feminism has met its own backlash.
Here is where the reaction leaves us: Currently, our legal system seems to be on the brink of recognizing neither women’s right to control their bodies nor women’s right to speak about the violence that has been done to their bodies.
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And Depp at all times had more power than Heard. When they met, Heard was 22 and Depp was 46, and he was hiring her for a job. He was a household name. He was richer, more famous, more beloved than she ever was. If Heard is not a perfect victim, if at times she instigated violent encounters with Depp, that does not change the fact that Depp had power over Heard that she did not have over him. One of the lessons of Me Too was supposed to be that victims do not have to be perfect in order to deserve justice, and that people who have behaved badly still do not deserve to be abused. That lesson seems to have vanished here.
Depp’s victory is not an expansion of the gains of Me Too. It is a cynical appropriation of the rhetoric of Me Too, applied now to its end.
It’s worth asking a question: What is all this backlash lashing out at? The Me Too movement’s signature achievement is getting Harvey Weinstein convicted for some of his many alleged rapes, several years after he stopped being able to deliver Oscar winners on a reliable basis. Meanwhile, the Me Too movement itself was a response to the election of Donald Trump, which came even after Trump was heard on tape boasting about sexually assaulting multiple women.
It’s as though our judicial system has said, “While the most powerful office in the land was held by an alleged rapist, on the other hand, another less-powerful rapist was sent to jail, so all things considered it’s very important that women stop having control over their own bodies now just to be safe.”
Each wave of feminism is met by a backlash. But it’s heartbreaking that this one would come so definitively or so soon.
Post by: benjipwns on June 02, 2022, 05:56:43 PM
The First Amendment has been gutted by Johnny Depp
https://twitter.com/MollyJongFast/status/1532326815234150401
https://twitter.com/adamdavidson/status/1532353924845412352
https://twitter.com/adamdavidson/status/1532313110740094979
https://twitter.com/ijbailey/status/1532367890321752067
https://twitter.com/adamdavidson/status/1532315226598686720
https://twitter.com/adamdavidson/status/1532353924845412352
https://twitter.com/adamdavidson/status/1532313110740094979
https://twitter.com/ijbailey/status/1532367890321752067
https://twitter.com/adamdavidson/status/1532315226598686720
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https://twitter.com/kattenbarge/status/1532115965248475137
https://twitter.com/kattenbarge/status/1532116154986151937
https://twitter.com/kattenbarge/status/1532116276570730502
lmao all these journalists are so completely fucking stupid and they just tweet it out for everyone to see :dead :dead :dead :dead
Post by: benjipwns on June 02, 2022, 09:32:51 PM
https://twitter.com/melsil/status/1532328326110625794
Victims are going to suffer, even die, because of this verdict
https://twitter.com/brosandprose/status/1532327395558055939
https://twitter.com/brosandprose/status/1532514767465742358
https://twitter.com/RottenInDenmark/status/1532315220550598656
https://twitter.com/brosandprose/status/1532514767465742358
https://twitter.com/RottenInDenmark/status/1532315220550598656
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Post by: benjipwns on June 03, 2022, 12:50:09 AM
Gamergate but worse
https://twitter.com/Jeff_Sparrow/status/1532134824466558976
https://twitter.com/BWDBWDBWD/status/1532183799483797506
https://twitter.com/JoshRaby/status/1532088007196557316
https://twitter.com/danielle_binks/status/1532282800921001985
https://twitter.com/jays_ear/status/1532117336546856960
https://twitter.com/BWDBWDBWD/status/1532183799483797506
https://twitter.com/JoshRaby/status/1532088007196557316
https://twitter.com/danielle_binks/status/1532282800921001985
https://twitter.com/jays_ear/status/1532117336546856960
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Post by: Nintex on June 03, 2022, 03:35:15 AM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 03, 2022, 04:40:49 AM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on June 03, 2022, 10:53:40 AM
https://twitter.com/adamdavidson/status/1532319741540442114
(https://i.imgur.com/RSOjWsj.jpg)
Post by: Boredfrom on June 03, 2022, 12:51:05 PM
White powerful men outclass white powerful women.
Post by: james on June 03, 2022, 01:29:19 PM
theyre right
Post by: who is ted danson? on June 03, 2022, 02:17:04 PM
https://twitter.com/AnneNotation/status/1532538174345314305
theyre right
its all the kids that got no likes on their tiktoks
Post by: benjipwns on June 03, 2022, 10:01:34 PM
https://twitter.com/legalbytesmedia/status/1532515157317935104
https://twitter.com/legalbytesmedia/status/1532558751605063680
https://twitter.com/ThatUmbrella/status/1532557245803896836
Post by: benjipwns on June 04, 2022, 12:09:04 AM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1527671071616471040
https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1527674701492932608
https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1527677536947343362
https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1527674701492932608
https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1527677536947343362
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Post by: Uncle on June 04, 2022, 12:59:11 AM
https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1532783613741355010spoiler (click to show/hide)https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1527671071616471040
https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1527674701492932608
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https://twitter.com/BrettOhia/status/1527672999813558277
Post by: Tuckers Law on June 04, 2022, 03:55:24 AM
Taylor Lorenz is a good journalist, stop giving her PTSD Pissy:
https://twitter.com/legalbytesmedia/status/1532515157317935104
https://twitter.com/legalbytesmedia/status/1532558751605063680
https://twitter.com/ThatUmbrella/status/1532557245803896836
Bold strategy to publish misinformation about the very attorneys you are referencing in your article.
Post by: Potato on June 04, 2022, 04:04:32 AM
https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1532783613741355010The funny thing about this is that unless you're looking for it you wouldn't find it at all. I've not seen a single bit of rampant misogyny or anti-feminist backlash.spoiler (click to show/hide)https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1527671071616471040
https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1527674701492932608
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Post by: Nintex on June 04, 2022, 05:55:55 AM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on June 04, 2022, 10:18:44 AM
Taylor Lorenz is a good journalist, stop giving her PTSD Pissy:
https://twitter.com/legalbytesmedia/status/1532515157317935104
https://twitter.com/legalbytesmedia/status/1532996645297696768
I'm surprised how much of an amateur hour the Washington Post can be. Who signed off that the people were contacted? Who signed off editing the article without adding an editors note?
Post by: HaughtyFrank on June 04, 2022, 10:26:23 AM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 04, 2022, 11:00:49 AM
Taylor Lorenz is a good journalist, stop giving her PTSD Pissy:
https://twitter.com/legalbytesmedia/status/1532515157317935104
https://twitter.com/legalbytesmedia/status/1532996645297696768
I'm surprised how much of an amateur hour the Washington Post can be. Who signed off that the people were contacted? Who signed off editing the article without adding an editors note?
I doubt Bezos gives a shit about anything they print (as long as it doesn't lead to a huge fine/lawsuit) unless it is to do with protecting his interests :trumps
Post by: VomKriege on June 04, 2022, 12:31:02 PM
https://twitter.com/miniondeathcult/status/1531723245761622016
Post by: HaughtyFrank on June 04, 2022, 12:56:58 PM
"Ugh, if only it wasn't for that damn vaccine mandate"
Post by: HaughtyFrank on June 04, 2022, 04:48:08 PM
Post by: benjipwns on June 04, 2022, 05:20:19 PM
:whoo This one is great.
Post by: benjipwns on June 05, 2022, 08:37:45 AM
(https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1637305486l/40588534._SY475_.jpg)
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CWs for everyday cruelty, CSA, physical assault, rape, abortion, physical injuries, surgery, suicidal ideation, self-loathing, homophobia, misogyny, homelessness, fatphobia, drinking, drug use, and shame.Common phrase in all the five star Goodreads reviews include "traumatic" and "heart wrenching." Hilarious! I can't wait for her to give me permission to laugh!
A past UN-endorsed manifesto I could never bring myself to get:
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Post by: Nintex on June 05, 2022, 08:56:00 AM
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Meanwhile, other critics often conflate stakeholder capitalism for being “woke,” Dimon said. “I am a red-blooded, free market capitalist and I’m not woke,” he said.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/01/jamie-dimon-says-brace-yourself-for-an-economic-hurricane-caused-by-the-fed-and-ukraine-war.html (https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/01/jamie-dimon-says-brace-yourself-for-an-economic-hurricane-caused-by-the-fed-and-ukraine-war.html)
The woke movement is even too toxic for vulture capitalists and banksters now :doge
Post by: benjipwns on June 05, 2022, 09:13:53 AM
I'm surprised how much of an amateur hour the Washington Post can be. Who signed off that the people were contacted? Who signed off editing the article without adding an editors note?https://twitter.com/TaylorLorenz/status/1533180638819258369
https://twitter.com/taylorlorenz/status/1533184321388810240
https://twitter.com/taylorlorenz/status/1533195456116756480
https://twitter.com/TaylorLorenz/status/1533205525629788160
https://twitter.com/j2lovesfriday/status/1533082372450750465
Post by: Nintex on June 05, 2022, 09:43:47 AM
It's like all the real reporters got replaced by 20 - 30 something tumblr bloggers
I'm surprised how much of an amateur hour the Washington Post can be. Who signed off that the people were contacted? Who signed off editing the article without adding an editors note?
Post by: HaughtyFrank on June 05, 2022, 10:55:25 AM
I'm surprised how much of an amateur hour the Washington Post can be. Who signed off that the people were contacted? Who signed off editing the article without adding an editors note?https://twitter.com/TaylorLorenz/status/1533205525629788160
Does she not see the irony in calling this misrepresentation and bad reporting (Not actually sure what about that tweet is supposed to be false)
By her own logic she's now starting to kick off a hate campaign against this dude.
And as so often, the whole thing only blew up because there's so much denial instead of an explanation of why this happened and a sorry. The only one who discredits her and the Washington post is.... her
Post by: benjipwns on June 05, 2022, 11:02:34 AM
Post by: Nintex on June 05, 2022, 11:50:05 AM
There is a full blown civil war at the wapo :lol
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Out of the corner of my eye, I spotted the bartender pantomiming a bump of coke and laughing with their colleagues. “She didn’t even TRY to hide it,” they said. My brain immediately knew whom they were talking about: Amber Heard. And I knew this because my TikTok For You page has been overrun for the last month with trial coverage—specifically,https://twitter.com/KalhanR/status/1533072244456448001 (https://twitter.com/KalhanR/status/1533072244456448001)
all these takes are :dead
Post by: HaughtyFrank on June 05, 2022, 11:51:40 AM
Post by: benjipwns on June 05, 2022, 12:16:59 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 05, 2022, 12:32:27 PM
Post by: Potato on June 05, 2022, 03:10:09 PM
Those real reporters probably said some mean things to the intern once and just had to be let go.It's like all the real reporters got replaced by 20 - 30 something tumblr bloggers
I'm surprised how much of an amateur hour the Washington Post can be. Who signed off that the people were contacted? Who signed off editing the article without adding an editors note?
Post by: Boredfrom on June 05, 2022, 03:34:22 PM
Post by: Potato on June 05, 2022, 03:46:29 PM
Post by: Uncle on June 05, 2022, 04:47:34 PM
Post by: Nintex on June 05, 2022, 05:23:50 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUfx0ToWIAI3QkN?format=jpg)
(https://www.gifs.nl/media/popcorn-gifs-v9lqCy.gif)
Post by: Nintex on June 05, 2022, 07:12:20 PM
Post by: Nintex on June 06, 2022, 01:15:11 PM
The saga continues.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on June 06, 2022, 01:23:32 PM
Post by: Boredfrom on June 06, 2022, 02:25:46 PM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Breonna_Taylor
No idea on how you can prove he didn’t just confused names unless he has been acting like an asshole behind cameras to her.
Probably the best idea to keep it private if that is your only prove.
Post by: james on June 06, 2022, 02:41:27 PM
Post by: Tuckers Law on June 06, 2022, 09:22:07 PM
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 06, 2022, 09:34:19 PM
Jimmy wants ups
Jimmys gonna get what he wants.
Post by: BIONIC on June 06, 2022, 10:21:04 PM
Post by: benjipwns on June 06, 2022, 10:21:27 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Also, his tag to "Donate to the JIMMY FUND"
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Post by: BisMarckie on June 06, 2022, 10:24:40 PM
Post by: benjipwns on June 07, 2022, 03:09:59 AM
Post by: benjipwns on June 07, 2022, 03:26:38 AM
Quote from: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/06/georgetown-free-speech-ilya-shapiro-law-affirmative-action-lesser-black-woman.html
Georgetown then suspended Shapiro pending the results of an “investigation,” which took more than three months, even though the only source material to investigate was three short tweets that Shapiro wrote and deleted.nice :lawd
The actual cause of the delay was an irresolvable contradiction between the University’s free-speech policy and demands of student protesters. Georgetown’s official policy pledges to safeguard the “free and open inquiry, deliberation and debate in all matters, and the untrammeled verbal and nonverbal expression of ideas.” Protesters depicted Shapiro’s tweets as causing damage so severe they could not tolerate his continued employment.
Georgetown’s solution was to evade the contradiction. It concluded its investigation by determining Shapiro could not be punished because he had not yet begun his job at Georgetown. (Presumably Georgetown could have discovered this fact in a considerably shorter time period than three months.)
However, Shapiro reports, the school’s Office of Institutional Diversity, Equity and Affirmative Action sent a report calling for “appropriate corrective measures” for his “objectively offensive comments” — Shapiro is not the only person involved who thinks the word objective means the opposite of what it actually does — “and to prevent the recurrence of offensive conduct based on race, gender, and sex.”
“The University’s anti-harassment policy does not require that a respondent intend to denigrate,” the report says, according to Shapiro. “Instead, the Policy requires consideration of the ‘purpose or effect’ of a respondent’s conduct.” The emphasis on effect allows anybody to claim that ideas they find offensive have harmed or threatened them, and obligates the University to punish whoever has uttered them.
Georgetown has previously (and correctly) allowed left-leaning scholars to express ideas that could certainly be construed as offensive or threatening. Shapiro cites professor Carol Christine Fair of the School of Foreign Service tweeting during Justice Kavanaugh’s confirmation process: “Look at this chorus of entitled white men justifying a serial rapist’s arrogated entitlement. All of them deserve miserable deaths while feminists laugh as they take their last gasps. Bonus: we castrate their corpses and feed them to swine? Yes.”
Post by: Potato on June 07, 2022, 04:18:48 AM
https://twitter.com/johnrobertgage/status/1533800140372590592No one is afraid you arrogant imbecile, it's just a stupid term.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 07, 2022, 10:48:03 AM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on June 07, 2022, 02:06:09 PM
Ok, Latinos is now gender neutral
"No, not like that!"
Post by: Uncle on June 07, 2022, 02:08:59 PM
I know that's why I phonetically pronounce lgbt as "lugbutt" (as in: it's lugbutt pride month) and encourage everyone I know to adopt it as well
don't complain, language is fluid and I'm embracing its fluidity
Post by: Nintex on June 07, 2022, 02:51:42 PM
Post by: Potato on June 07, 2022, 04:20:51 PM
"language is fluid"Well, you've convinced me this is the future. Lugbutt it is!
I know that's why I phonetically pronounce lgbt as "lugbutt" (as in: it's lugbutt pride month) and encourage everyone I know to adopt it as well
don't complain, language is fluid and I'm embracing its fluidity
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 07, 2022, 04:23:03 PM
Post by: Nintex on June 07, 2022, 04:34:25 PM
The saga continues
Post by: Nintex on June 07, 2022, 05:26:38 PM
https://twitter.com/jtLOL/status/1534276930601639936 (https://twitter.com/jtLOL/status/1534276930601639936)
https://twitter.com/jtLOL/status/1534278340022095872 (https://twitter.com/jtLOL/status/1534278340022095872)
Post by: Nintex on June 08, 2022, 03:28:40 AM
Stanford Law prof :dead
Post by: benjipwns on June 08, 2022, 03:38:16 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUpkRjAWQAE0N_S?format=jpg&name=small)
Post by: benjipwns on June 08, 2022, 03:42:35 AM
how does this always happen
Post by: Transhuman on June 08, 2022, 03:57:36 AM
Every woman knows that people who like jokes don't respect women:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUpkRjAWQAE0N_S?format=jpg&name=small)
I told you that in confidence!
Post by: benjipwns on June 08, 2022, 04:17:34 AM
Welcome to The Washington Post office rules, shitlord!Every woman knows that people who like jokes don't respect women:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUpkRjAWQAE0N_S?format=jpg&name=small)
I told you that in confidence!
Post by: HaughtyFrank on June 08, 2022, 03:43:41 PM
:brain
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 08, 2022, 03:54:37 PM
Post by: Nintex on June 08, 2022, 06:11:10 PM
:dead
https://twitter.com/chrisnodima/status/1534600824516640769 (https://twitter.com/chrisnodima/status/1534600824516640769)
:salute
Post by: HaughtyFrank on June 08, 2022, 06:50:17 PM
Post by: chronovore on June 08, 2022, 10:07:38 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUsTV4CWUAcQhQ3?format=jpg&name=medium)
:brain
He's also a gun owner, and has a pro-2nd-Amendment stance. But like most Americans, he's tired of gun violence and wants to see stronger controls in place.
I have friends who served in the Marines. Each is pro-gun, and pro-EVERYONE-owning guns, and I ask them, "Didn't you train? Didn't you have to re-qualify for being allowed to keep your gun, in your job that required you to have a gun?"
I just want people who have access to guns to know what they're using, and be responsible for how they're used. We do it with cars, we need to do it with guns.
Post by: benjipwns on June 08, 2022, 10:17:56 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUsTV4CWUAcQhQ3?format=jpg&name=medium)I liked this version more:
:brain
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1534263832025214976
Post by: VomKriege on June 09, 2022, 12:55:05 AM
Post by: benjipwns on June 09, 2022, 01:20:22 AM
Quote from: https://stanforddaily.com/2021/08/05/opinion-stanfords-dining-hall-system-did-not-work-with-my-disordered-eating-that-can-change/
Content warning: This column contains references to disordered eating.No, no, "Holden Saige Foreman" is not a real person. This is completely made up. This is some kind of money laundering thing.
Sharp stomach pains distracted me as I sit in a CS section during my first quarter at Stanford in the fall of 2017. I hadn’t eaten enough that morning, as my mind convinced me to take a very small portion of the “healthiest” vegetarian food I could find in the dining hall. I was too stressed to even attempt a dining hall lunch, and was now stuck waiting until dinner.
After thinking about my hunger for most of the section, I made my way to the dining hall after class, but I could bring myself to eat only a plate of grilled cauliflower. And before I even finished that, it was time to go to my nighttime economics section.
The specific type of disordered eating I experience has not been diagnosed, but it can be described as a compulsion to eat less than needed when I’m either in social settings or when I have trouble estimating the amount of food I’m consuming.
In theory, Stanford’s dining halls present students with the opportunity to eat as much as they need given its buffet format. Yet students like me may struggle to take enough of any of the available food when they are charged with portioning it themselves.
Disordered eating does not affect everyone in the same way. What helps me could make matters worse for others and vice versa. Still, there are basic actions the University could take to be more supportive of students who may not get enough food otherwise.
Provide pre-portioned options in dining halls, alongside their buffet-style counterparts, for students who experience stress associated with buffet-style dining. Stanford has been pre-portioning food throughout the pandemic, and it can continue that practice even when the buffet style returns. Like ordering food at a restaurant, receiving a predefined serving of something is much less stressful for me than portioning it myself, especially when surrounded by peers.
Give all students on any meal plan unlimited swipes so they may visit and revisit any dining hall whenever they choose. Stanford Dining says the meal plan is required to ensure students have “easy access to food.” If that’s the case, it makes no sense that there is a limit to the number of swipes students receive on any of the offered plans, especially from a health and wellness perspective. Punishing students who “didn’t plan well” by withholding food is unacceptable. And it could be especially harmful to those who can’t afford to buy food whenever they realize they need it. This practice would also assist students who leave a dining hall without eating enough and can’t swipe back in for more.
Educate the student body regarding disordered eating and the resources available on and off campus. Before I began at Stanford, I received an email from the University about how I identified as someone who had experienced disordered eating. I didn’t seek help and was never again contacted about it. The fact that this email was the only dedicated outreach, especially for someone with a history of disordered eating, is deeply concerning. Students could benefit from a session during NSO, but they need recurring outreach to remind them of resources available.
While changes to meal swipes, education and outreach on disordered eating did not happen in my time at Stanford, I caught a glimpse of what pre-portioned food could do to alleviate my stress when Stanford required it in dining halls due to the pandemic in March 2020.
Pre-pandemic, I was comfortable taking only a few things from dining halls: mostly the bagels, English muffins and veggie burger patties, because they were pre-portioned. Even then, I felt self-conscious about walking in and stuffing things into my backpack. Pandemic dining gave me increased options without any of the stress I experienced previously.
While brief, the comparison was stark — after all, I had spent two and a half school years under the buffet system. Because that system caused me so much stress, I chose to spend most of the money I received from on-campus work — money that not all students have at their disposal — toward day-to-day nourishment at restaurants and supermarkets.
Once I started buying my food instead of using the meal plan, my health improved, and I didn’t find myself painfully hungry. I wish Stanford had included this kind of option in its dining halls. Disordered eating can happen to anyone at any time. If someone finds themselves not feeling up to the buffet style at any point, the alternative should be available without extra cost.
Despite my struggles, I never sought help with my disordered eating from Stanford. But it’s not fair to place the blame squarely on my shoulders. Simple changes to campus dining could help students without relying on their time and energy when they are not ready to seek help.
While there are changes that Stanford needs to make, the below resources are already available to students:
Vaden has a guide, including general online resources and Stanford-specific resources ranging from nutrition counseling and visits (solo and group appointments are unlimited for students living on campus) to CAPS sessions and Vaden medical services. It is also possible to organize group workshops via the Vaden Flourishing Alliance.
Stanford Dining offers exemptions to the meal plan “for serious medical issues/disabilities or religious reasons.” It also offers “support for students with food allergies and specialized dietary requirements through the Food Allergies @ Stanford program.” That program’s webpage also has religious accommodations listed below the allergies section.
I was unaware of most of these resources before doing research for this article. That alone is a problem Stanford needs to fix. It’s also true, however, that I never used the resources I knew about. The University can’t rely on students to explicitly ask for help — so system-level changes like the ones I’ve described are so important.
Giving all students on a meal plan unlimited access to open dining halls, providing non-buffet options in the dining halls and reminding students of the resources available to them in a transparent and sensitive manner are not big asks. Yet they could have made a huge difference for my Stanford experience.
If nothing else, this is an issue Stanford should start addressing more proactively with students through outreach, surveys, open conversations and more. Disordered eating can happen to anyone at any time — lack of proactivity by the University can be damaging to all of us.
Post by: Potato on June 09, 2022, 01:28:19 AM
https://twitter.com/hpmacd/status/1534591496267124739 (https://twitter.com/hpmacd/status/1534591496267124739)Why does none of this surprise me?Quote from: https://stanforddaily.com/2021/08/05/opinion-stanfords-dining-hall-system-did-not-work-with-my-disordered-eating-that-can-change/*Removed unhinged "why won't everyone acknowledge my undiagnosed and unclassified and most likely made up eating disorder" rantNo, no, "Holden Saige Foreman" is not a real person. This is completely made up. This is some kind of money laundering thing.
Post by: Nintex on June 09, 2022, 04:58:50 PM
:pika
Post by: james on June 09, 2022, 06:28:59 PM
Post by: james on June 09, 2022, 06:31:02 PM
Post by: benjipwns on June 09, 2022, 06:32:43 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on June 09, 2022, 08:52:09 PM
:lol :heartbeat
Post by: Transhuman on June 09, 2022, 08:56:28 PM
So her plan to jump from a job she hates into a social media superstar who the misogynists at the Washington Post tried to silence worked out?
Not sure what her plan was but if this is what success looks like it was a really shitty plan.
Post by: Potato on June 09, 2022, 09:54:53 PM
https://twitter.com/CorbinBolies/status/1535002084919107592 (https://twitter.com/CorbinBolies/status/1535002084919107592)Freedom of speech, not freedom from consequences
:pika
Post by: Potato on June 09, 2022, 09:57:18 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/RightWingCope/status/1534981101038538753That's actually wholesome as fuck
:lol :heartbeat
Post by: benjipwns on June 10, 2022, 10:43:44 AM
Bye Felicia!https://twitter.com/txiokatu/status/1535005775059423233
Post by: HaughtyFrank on June 10, 2022, 10:51:29 AM
Bye Felicia!https://twitter.com/txiokatu/status/1535005775059423233
Please make David Weigel retweet this. Let this circus come full circle
Post by: benjipwns on June 10, 2022, 05:53:47 PM
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Their snarky memes and trendy videos are riling up thousands of followers on divisive issues including abortion, guns, immigration and LGBTQ rights. The Department of Homeland Security warned Tuesday that such skewed framing of the subjects could drive extremists to violently attack public places across the U.S. in the coming months.I trust they'll catch Nintex yet. :american
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References to hate-filled ideologies are more elusive across mainstream platforms like Twitter, Instagram, TikTok and Telegram. To avoid detection from artificial intelligence-powered moderation, users don’t use obvious terms like “white genocide” or “white power” in conversation.
They signal their beliefs in other ways: a Christian cross emoji in their profile or words like “anglo” or “pilled,” a term embraced by far-right chatrooms, in usernames. Most recently, some of these accounts have borrowed the pop song “White Boy Summer” to cheer on the leaked Supreme Court draft opinion on Roe v. Wade, according to an analysis by Zignal Labs, a social media intelligence firm.
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U.S. extremists are mimicking the social media strategy used by the Islamic State group, which turned to subtle language and images across Telegram, Facebook and YouTube a decade ago to evade the industry-wide crackdown of the terrorist group’s online presence, said Mia Bloom, a communications professor at Georgia State University.
“They’re trying to recruit,” said Bloom, who has researched social media use for both Islamic State terrorists and far-right extremists. “We’re starting to see some of the same patterns with ISIS and the far-right. The coded speech, the ways to evade AI. The groups were appealing to a younger and younger crowd.”
For example, on Instagram, one of the most popular apps for teens and young adults, white supremacists amplify each other’s content daily and point their followers to new accounts.
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As society becomes more accepting of LGBTQ rights, the issue may be especially triggering for young men who have held traditional beliefs around relationships and marriage, Bloom said.
“That might explain the vulnerability to radical belief systems: A lot of the beliefs that they grew up with, that they held rather firmly, are being shaken,” she said. “That’s where it becomes an opportunity for these groups: They’re lashing out and they’re picking on things that are very different.”
Post by: Nintex on June 10, 2022, 06:13:12 PM
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They hint darkly that the CIA or the FBI are behind mass shootings.
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Michael German, who infiltrated white supremacy groups as an FBI agent
:info
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In one Instagram post identified by The Associated Press, an account called White Primacy appeared to post a photo of a billboard that describes a common way Jewish people were exterminated during the Holocaust.
Instagram is literally just thots, ads, cats and endless product placement, you'd need to do some real digging to find this boomer meme billboard shit Mia. :foodcourt
Post by: benjipwns on June 10, 2022, 10:11:45 PM
:hmm
Post by: D3RANG3D on June 12, 2022, 02:56:40 PM
Post by: D3RANG3D on June 13, 2022, 03:22:08 PM
There is no such thing as a slippery slo-
https://reduxx.info/queer-academic-recommends-pedophilia-be-taught-in-schools-as-an-innate-sexuality/
https://philpapers.org/rec/MOETEO-4
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 13, 2022, 03:40:33 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FU64YqHWYAANTZ0?format=jpg&name=medium)
:hmm
Why do they all says "met through _____" except for family?
:thinking
Post by: benjipwns on June 14, 2022, 01:58:11 AM
So many brave Culture War veterans saluted for their sacrifices in the great conflict by Freddie. :salute
I can't decide whether Jason Stanley's single sentence or Will Wilkinson's photo will have more collateral damage. (Possibly Chase Strangio trying to use the entire ACLU budget against a Substack post.)
Post by: VomKriege on June 14, 2022, 08:36:22 AM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 14, 2022, 11:16:44 AM
https://freddiedeboer.substack.com/p/the-good-white-man-roster
So many brave Culture War veterans saluted for their sacrifices in the great conflict by Freddie. :salute
I can't decide whether Jason Stanley's single sentence or Will Wilkinson's photo will have more collateral damage. (Possibly Chase Strangio trying to use the entire ACLU budget against a Substack post.)
Dutch directness :lawd
idk who any of these heroes are but do enjoy a good blue tick shitting piece.
Post by: benjipwns on June 15, 2022, 01:13:22 AM
https://twitter.com/SethDillon/status/1536751226485936130
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 15, 2022, 07:18:45 AM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on June 15, 2022, 11:52:52 AM
I don't know what's worse. That a dad joke by Tim Allen becomes a cultural focal point or that so many don't even get the joke
Post by: james on June 15, 2022, 12:02:37 PM
Post by: benjipwns on June 15, 2022, 12:46:33 PM
If there was a top x worst people on Twitter award Tay Tay would run away with number 1 for 2022, what a fucking weasel.Blue Checks and their allies seem to love white women (and white male feminists) who appoint themselves to act like cops all day. :trumps
Post by: Nintex on June 15, 2022, 12:54:09 PM
https://twitter.com/CarlaHSands/status/1535091239246340104I like how even CNN is in: "Buckle up folks, it's only going to get worse" mode.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 15, 2022, 05:55:47 PM
https://twitter.com/ofctimallen/status/1536782789596434432
I don't know what's worse. That a dad joke by Tim Allen becomes a cultural focal point or that so many don't even get the joke
I had to read this three times to realized it did not say skittles.
Post by: Nintex on June 18, 2022, 11:44:24 AM
And during pride month no less. The tide truely is turning.
Post by: benjipwns on June 18, 2022, 06:57:14 PM
Post by: benjipwns on June 18, 2022, 08:54:09 PM
:hmm
Post by: VomKriege on June 19, 2022, 02:43:03 AM
Post by: Nintex on June 19, 2022, 05:33:00 AM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on June 19, 2022, 08:05:48 AM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 19, 2022, 09:06:07 AM
https://twitter.com/Jim_Gannon/status/1537902178819444739
:hmm
Spoiler: the person who got mad about the purse being moved most probably would have bitched about the lady's white privilege if she left it there :society
Post by: Tasty on June 19, 2022, 01:34:27 PM
Yet you've used guns in playacting. Curious. I am very smart.
Wait, are you saying movies aren't real???
Post by: Tasty on June 19, 2022, 01:37:35 PM
https://twitter.com/CarlaHSands/status/1535091239246340104
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/WellinformedFarBlueandgoldmackaw-max-1mb.gif)
Post by: Nintex on June 19, 2022, 07:00:10 PM
Post by: Uncle on June 20, 2022, 12:15:02 PM
I guess if a victim cannot be identified, then the victim is the person the joke is inflicted upon
"why did the chicken cross the road? to get to the other side [you fucking moron, you who incorrectly assumed there might be some other meaningful reason for doing so]"
technically this joke is ablist
Post by: VomKriege on June 20, 2022, 02:45:12 PM
Post by: Tuckers Law on June 20, 2022, 05:45:53 PM
Post by: benjipwns on June 21, 2022, 03:13:12 PM
Quote from: https://www.npr.org/2022/06/14/1104925003/lizzo-rerecords-grrrls-criticism-ableism
When singer-songwriter Lizzo's new single, "Grrrls," sparked a heated online discussion over the weekend about ableist language, Black disabled activist Vilissa Thompson noticed that the conversations were dominated by certain people within the disability community.:hmm
White disabled people in the U.S. and the U.K. were calling out the singer for using the word "spaz," which many consider an ableist slur. Buried among these critiques, however, was the perspective of Black disabled people, who raised points about the need for cultural nuance and an intersectional lens to the situation.
"The erasure of Black disabled people, when it comes to a Black entertainer, has been very prominent throughout this whole thing," Thompson, a licensed master social worker, told NPR.
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In online conversations, white disabled people in the U.S. and the U.K were speaking about their experiences with the word. Meanwhile, Black people in the U.S. and the U.K. pointed out how the word, which some say is a part of African American Vernacular English, is used differently by Black people within their countries. Thompson wished there were an amplification of Black disabled people who understand the nuances of those who use the word and those who are reclaiming it.
She pointed out that language evolves and that if the history of the word is offensive or has been used to oppress a particular group, it's on each person to unlearn it.
"The onus is on us to not just unlearn but also update and improve the way that we communicate with each other, so that our words are intentionally used, so that they don't cause unintentional harm," Thompson said.
Thompson believes that the way people go about critiquing others is very important. In reading the discussions online, she said she noticed they perpetuated anti-Blackness and misogynoir, or misogyny directed at Black women.
She noted that rather than fostering an open dialogue about ableist language and engaging in a conversation with Lizzo about it, the critiques piled on and missed the mark.
"I was shocked but not surprised by the way that white disabled people, especially those who claim to be in solidarity with Black disabled people, engaged in the conversation. You are not in solidarity with us if your behavior during this time in addressing Lizzo can be read as problematic [and] offensive," Thompson said.
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"I'm always particular about how white people and non-Black people of color engage with Black women who look a certain way. [Lizzo is] unintentionally a polarizing figure ... because she has the audacity to be comfortable in her skin as a fat Black woman. If she does something that people don't like, the pile-ons feel exacerbated, and at times unnecessarily, when it comes to her," she said.
Post by: benjipwns on June 21, 2022, 03:15:07 PM
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Post by: Potato on June 21, 2022, 03:54:23 PM
Using derogatory language while blackQuote from: https://www.npr.org/2022/06/14/1104925003/lizzo-rerecords-grrrls-criticism-ableismWhen singer-songwriter Lizzo's new single, "Grrrls," sparked a heated online discussion over the weekend about ableist language, Black disabled activist Vilissa Thompson noticed that the conversations were dominated by certain people within the disability community.:hmm
White disabled people in the U.S. and the U.K. were calling out the singer for using the word "spaz," which many consider an ableist slur. Buried among these critiques, however, was the perspective of Black disabled people, who raised points about the need for cultural nuance and an intersectional lens to the situation.
"The erasure of Black disabled people, when it comes to a Black entertainer, has been very prominent throughout this whole thing," Thompson, a licensed master social worker, told NPR.
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In online conversations, white disabled people in the U.S. and the U.K were speaking about their experiences with the word. Meanwhile, Black people in the U.S. and the U.K. pointed out how the word, which some say is a part of African American Vernacular English, is used differently by Black people within their countries. Thompson wished there were an amplification of Black disabled people who understand the nuances of those who use the word and those who are reclaiming it.
She pointed out that language evolves and that if the history of the word is offensive or has been used to oppress a particular group, it's on each person to unlearn it.
"The onus is on us to not just unlearn but also update and improve the way that we communicate with each other, so that our words are intentionally used, so that they don't cause unintentional harm," Thompson said.
Thompson believes that the way people go about critiquing others is very important. In reading the discussions online, she said she noticed they perpetuated anti-Blackness and misogynoir, or misogyny directed at Black women.
She noted that rather than fostering an open dialogue about ableist language and engaging in a conversation with Lizzo about it, the critiques piled on and missed the mark.
"I was shocked but not surprised by the way that white disabled people, especially those who claim to be in solidarity with Black disabled people, engaged in the conversation. You are not in solidarity with us if your behavior during this time in addressing Lizzo can be read as problematic [and] offensive," Thompson said.
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"I'm always particular about how white people and non-Black people of color engage with Black women who look a certain way. [Lizzo is] unintentionally a polarizing figure ... because she has the audacity to be comfortable in her skin as a fat Black woman. If she does something that people don't like, the pile-ons feel exacerbated, and at times unnecessarily, when it comes to her," she said.
Post by: Potato on June 21, 2022, 03:56:37 PM
https://twitter.com/Stanford_lands/status/1538784779406954496"Not satisfied with destroying her current career, Taylor decided the time was ripe to destroy her future careers too!"spoiler (click to show/hide)https://twitter.com/Stanford_lands/status/1538852007473057793[close]
Post by: HaughtyFrank on June 21, 2022, 05:48:48 PM
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*Lorenz jumps on guy for jokingly announcing he has covid*
*People jump on her in return*
"Omg, why is everyone jumping on Lorenz"
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 21, 2022, 06:36:15 PM
Post by: benjipwns on June 22, 2022, 01:21:07 AM
Quote from: https://www.insidehighered.com/views/2022/06/08/character-judgments-scholars-matter-opinion
It is time for us to unite in thinking as a democracy about character and recognize that such abuses of power affect more than just the immediate victims. A parallel case that comes to mind is that of arguably the most famous thinker of the classical Athenian democracy—Socrates. Socrates’s flawed character, despite his superb teaching and scholarship, was ultimately his undoing in the Athenian context. How?Socrates can FFFFFUUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKK OOOOOFFFFOOOOOOFFFFFFF! :camby
For decades, Socrates was the leading public intellectual in Athens, grooming students to be thoughtful and engaged citizens. In the process, he was also grooming them in other ways, sleeping with at least one of them—Alcibiades. Ultimately, the results of Socrates’s teaching were decidedly problematic. His students went on to overthrow the Athenian democracy twice in the final decade of the Peloponnesian War.
And so, when the Athenians put Socrates on trial in 399 B.C.E. on charges of impiety and corrupting the youth, it seems that they were judging, more than anything, his character. Specifically, seeing the fruits of his teaching in his students, the Athenians saw his character as dangerous to the democracy. Socrates’s defense in the process, about the high quality of his scholarship as the “gadfly” stinging Athenians into thinking more deeply, sounded as tone-deaf to those Athenians who voted to condemn him as Katz’s own words ring now to some. Cancellations of public intellectuals are never random. They represent a character judgment that should unite the left and the right, so-called liberals and conservatives, those who espouse a faith and those who live with a secular compass.
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In the Athenian democracy, Socrates was able to get away with unethical behavior for decades, until the Athenians just could not take it anymore. Some leading thinkers in many areas today, whether the SBC or American academe, have also gotten away for too long with abuse—of students, of colleagues, of family members, of members of their community. But theirs is not the only story, thankfully. These same organizations also include, albeit sometimes less comfortably and certainly more quietly, thinkers and professors who care deeply for their students and communities and who produce scholarship that reflects their virtue. As the calls to cancel known abusers and harassers increase, it is time to make character judgments openly and celebrate decency of character.
Post by: Potato on June 22, 2022, 03:16:31 AM
Post by: benjipwns on June 23, 2022, 02:38:34 AM
Quote from: https://kotaku.com/amber-heard-johnny-depp-trial-gamergate-me-too-twitch-1849095122
Vilifying Amber Heard Shows We Learned Nothing From GamerGate
People can’t stand imperfect women—not in the Depp v. Heard Trial, or in games, or anywhere
By Ashley Bardhan
Yesterday 4:05PM
“She’s not a perfect victim,” Mariska Hargitay says in Law and Order: SVU. Recent headlines say the same about Amber Heard. Heard said as much about herself. “But,” Hargitay says, “she is not making this up.”
I let Law and Order play on TV while I do other mindless things, like scrubbing the floor or scribbling in my journal. Like other abuse victims I know, I find comfort in a TV show that pretends victims can really win. But hearing Hargitay say those words brought my attention back to our less paradisial reality, where Amber Heard, whose name has been like a neon bar sign at the back of my head for the past two months, is still glued to online vitriol. People keep pushing for her to get cut from Aquaman 2 and posting pictures of Johnny Depp wearing a crop top 38 years ago. You can’t do anything online without seeing him smiling, seeing unwarranted hate for her. It feels inescapable, and I feel that people hate imperfect women more than they’re able to state clearly.
No one remembers what the trial was really about, but you couldn’t escape a single gory detail, not on popular Twitch streams orchestrated by cackling gaming personalities, or on TikTok, where Depp worshipers turned Heard’s testimony into millions of likes, or Instagram, or YouTube. It’s everywhere. But contrary to what our information overload would have you believe, this trial wasn’t about who people on Twitter find more personable, or who has been in more nostalgic childhood films, or who looked hotter in the ‘90s. It was a defamation trial about three vague sentences in a 2018 op-ed where Heard references her personal experience with sexual violence and abuse.
She does not mention Johnny Depp in the op-ed, but he sued her for $50 million in damages. Before this trial, Depp tried suing for libel after British tabloid The Sun called him a “wife beater,” a phrase a U.K. judge found to be accurate after deeming 12 counts of alleged assault proven.
It’s unsurprising that the judge ruled this way. You’ve probably seen Heard’s face purple with healing bruises or Depp’s bleeding middle finger, which he gives conflicting accounts on how he severed (Heard threw a bottle? It got smashed in a closing door?), though he agrees that he used its dripping wound to write Heard threatening red messages. He sent vile text messages about Heard that his attorney said were inspired by “literary giants like Hunter S. Thompson,” including a text to actor Paul Bettany that said “I will fuck her burnt corpse afterward to make sure she is dead.” How literary.
Heard lived through Depp’s proven abuse, but her name and the abuse victims she represents—imperfect because we’re crying, because domestic abuse is emotionally knotty and Heard said she still loves him—are thrown away. Our stories are scrutinized, denied because…why? Is it about movies again?
It can’t just be about movies. To me, this reaction to Heard’s imperfections is a deluge of hate that has always existed. Sometimes it gets buried—in the beginning of the #MeToo movement, believing women was more socially acceptable because women banded together, nevermind the fact that everyone already knew Harvey Weinstein was a piece of shit. But then there are darker times in pop culture, like when the world laughed as a broken Britney Spears lashed out at swarming paparazzi with an umbrella, or when GamerGate sneered and drew an ugly line in the sand: Women, especially complex women, aren’t welcome here.
Complex women can’t be perfect. People, including other women, want physical beauty, the virginal porcelain face of Jane Eyre not the wild-haired Bertha Mason (the man locks her in the attic, and somehow she’s the crazy one?), or in video games, the pink Princess Peaches, the curvy Lara Crofts. But they also demand emotional perfection. Quietness, level headedness, no conflicting facial expressions like Amber Heard had, sobbing one second and sober the next. People don’t want to see anything that indicates that this woman, pretty as she is, is really just a human. She makes mistakes. Sometimes she hits back, or she misspeaks.
When a woman misspeaks because the situation she described was so painful she wanted to forget it, because a litigious man with as much power and money as Depp has tried smacking the memory out of her, I want to say the world will come to her aid. We’re supposedly post-GamerGate, post-MeToo. I want to believe that we are all now equipped with the basic understanding that abuse is multifaceted, sometimes subtle, always insidious, and confusing. But Heard continues to be abused in the court of public opinion, and as a result, other real, imperfect victims know for certain that we aren’t supported. Not until we get our stories straight or our tears in line. That’s why I watch idyllic shows like SVU. It’s not real. It probably never will be, but I can’t stop myself from hoping.
Post by: VomKriege on June 23, 2022, 09:29:07 AM
Post by: Tasty on June 23, 2022, 12:23:45 PM
We're really arguing that Socrates' trial was anything more than a sham designed to get rid of an inconvenient critic and that we should follow the example set by the Athenians?
Yeah reading that made my head spin. Socrates' trial is like the most famous historical kangaroo court ever outside Jesus and Pilate.
Post by: Nintex on June 23, 2022, 01:56:38 PM
I always admire Netflix' skill to piss off both the pride gang and the conservatives.
Post by: Uncle on June 23, 2022, 02:07:16 PM
We're really arguing that Socrates' trial was anything more than a sham designed to get rid of an inconvenient critic and that we should follow the example set by the Athenians?
Yeah reading that made my head spin. Socrates' trial is like the most famous historical kangaroo court ever outside Jesus and Pilate.
I think I would have to disagree with this considering kangaroos were not introduced to the world at large until 1629
Post by: VomKriege on June 23, 2022, 03:34:15 PM
We're really arguing that Socrates' trial was anything more than a sham designed to get rid of an inconvenient critic and that we should follow the example set by the Athenians?
Yeah reading that made my head spin. Socrates' trial is like the most famous historical kangaroo court ever outside Jesus and Pilate.
I think I would have to disagree with this considering kangaroos were not introduced to the world at large until 1629
"Kangaroo court is a term they coined in Australia !"
- Alex Jones
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Not that uncommon a misconception though.
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Post by: VomKriege on June 23, 2022, 07:43:31 PM
Post by: Uncle on June 23, 2022, 08:05:05 PM
Post by: chronovore on June 23, 2022, 08:09:15 PM
I already could tell they weren't a liberal due to the joe rogan experience license plate:rofl
-- nice.
Post by: benjipwns on June 23, 2022, 10:53:04 PM
I already could tell they weren't a liberal due to the joe rogan experience license plate1448? Not slick what they're trying to dogwhistle with this. :social
Post by: Tasty on June 23, 2022, 11:06:36 PM
Post by: Potato on June 24, 2022, 04:28:44 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/ymercado/status/1539686044521611265
Post by: D3RANG3D on June 25, 2022, 04:53:08 PM
Post by: VomKriege on June 26, 2022, 05:52:46 AM
Post by: VomKriege on June 26, 2022, 06:04:15 AM
https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1538690219808919554
Post by: VomKriege on June 26, 2022, 08:19:33 AM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 26, 2022, 08:32:36 AM
I know the thread was shared elsewhere but I didn't see those followups then and :what
https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1538690219808919554
Someone shuld reply with, 'well what have you ever done?' and watch him melt the fuck down :rash
Post by: Polident Hive on June 26, 2022, 06:16:48 PM
Post by: james on June 26, 2022, 07:06:34 PM
Post by: benjipwns on June 27, 2022, 05:13:39 PM
Post by: Himu on June 27, 2022, 05:16:31 PM
https://twitter.com/thelaylanoor/status/1541140118693625857
*wet fart*
Post by: Himu on June 27, 2022, 05:44:52 PM
:lol
(https://i.imgur.com/rX2WyKO.jpg)
:lol
Post by: benjipwns on June 27, 2022, 05:50:36 PM
:hesright
Post by: Himu on June 27, 2022, 05:52:43 PM
https://twitter.com/SSBJournal/status/1541508636362555395
:hesright
What a based tweet. Gamers are the most oppressed minority in America.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 27, 2022, 05:55:14 PM
https://twitter.com/thelaylanoor/status/1541140118693625857
Its a genuine shame that twitter has broken some people so much that they can only blurt out the same old slogans, rhetoric and platitudes even though they barely make any sense, instead of some independent thought.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 27, 2022, 05:59:07 PM
https://twitter.com/thelaylanoor/status/1541140118693625857
Its a genuine shame that twitter has broken some people so much that they can only blurt out the same old slogans, rhetoric and platitudes even though they barely make any sense, instead of some independent thought.
This isn't some lol fuck da libs ting either, you don't have to look that far to find rightoids doing the same shit too :trumps
Post by: Himu on June 27, 2022, 06:00:44 PM
https://twitter.com/thelaylanoor/status/1541140118693625857
Its a genuine shame that twitter has broken some people so much that they can only blurt out the same old slogans, rhetoric and platitudes even though they barely make any sense, instead of some independent thought.
This isn't some lol fuck da libs ting either, you don't have to look that far to find rightoids doing the same shit too :trumps
Completely agree. Twitter is where the internet goes to die.
Post by: benjipwns on June 27, 2022, 06:57:37 PM
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Post by: BIONIC on June 27, 2022, 07:02:19 PM
:thinking
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:titus
Post by: HaughtyFrank on June 28, 2022, 08:10:34 AM
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Post by: Uncle on June 28, 2022, 11:23:03 AM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 28, 2022, 11:30:03 AM
Post by: benjipwns on June 28, 2022, 05:04:32 PM
Post by: james on June 28, 2022, 05:21:33 PM
:rash
Post by: james on June 28, 2022, 05:27:00 PM
:whew
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXv9GDmosT9/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Post by: Potato on June 28, 2022, 05:35:45 PM
Post by: Transhuman on June 28, 2022, 05:40:41 PM
https://twitter.com/itsjadeyanh/status/1541406205406547976
Where do you even find this stuff? Were you following her or...
Post by: who is ted danson? on June 28, 2022, 06:07:09 PM
I love depressed girls
:whew
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXv9GDmosT9/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
She's German. Lol.ICH LIEBE DAS GIRLSFAHRENSCHAFTENGEBANGENFUCKUNTZE
Post by: Uncle on June 28, 2022, 07:32:33 PM
https://twitter.com/itsjadeyanh/status/1541406205406547976
https://twitter.com/itsjadeyanh/status/1538597095611019265
Post by: VomKriege on June 29, 2022, 12:26:04 PM
Post by: D3RANG3D on June 29, 2022, 03:10:04 PM
Post by: Nintex on June 29, 2022, 05:47:40 PM
:lol
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWatvi_WYAIEkVO?format=png)
:doge
Post by: VomKriege on June 30, 2022, 09:41:17 AM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on June 30, 2022, 10:38:45 AM
I'm confused
"Yes I'm an addict, don't call me an addict. I also work in addictions"
Post by: Uncle on June 30, 2022, 10:50:55 AM
the difference between being called "an addict" and "a person who is addicted to a substance"
or a "colored person" vs. "person of color"
"disabled person" vs. "those with disabilities"
Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 30, 2022, 10:55:37 AM
Bunch of mental illnesses proudly displayed. Tried to kill himself like 3 hours ago. (If anything from these people can be believed.)
Resilient to trauma. Sure sounds like it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on June 30, 2022, 11:02:43 AM
person-first terminology
the difference between being called "an addict" and "a person who is addicted to a substance"
or a "colored person" vs. "person of color"
"disabled person" vs. "those with disabilities"
Ah alright, that makes sense. I thought the term addiction was the problem
Post by: james on June 30, 2022, 11:49:18 AM
person-first terminology
the difference between being called "an addict" and "a person who is addicted to a substance"
or a "colored person" vs. "person of color"
"disabled person" vs. "those with disabilities"
Borean :gurl
Person of the Bore :checkit
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 30, 2022, 02:03:40 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 30, 2022, 03:04:03 PM
https://twitter.com/mysticcshadow/status/1542193467199193090
I'm confused
"Yes I'm an addict, don't call me an addict. I also work in addictions"
Its called mental gymnastics mate.
Post by: Potato on June 30, 2022, 04:14:54 PM
Boring person.person-first terminology
the difference between being called "an addict" and "a person who is addicted to a substance"
or a "colored person" vs. "person of color"
"disabled person" vs. "those with disabilities"
Borean :gurl
Person of the Bore :checkit
Person of The Bore.
Same same.
Post by: benjipwns on June 30, 2022, 05:50:10 PM
Quote from: https://www.hiddenvilla.org/programs/summer-camps/region-HV/
Part of what caused the abrupt departure of Camp Staff was an ongoing process to discuss symbols on the historic Duveneck house. The house, built in 1929, had 3 tiles, approximately twelve inches by twelve inches, with Buddhist swastikas and a lotus embedded in the architecture. These tiles were purchased by Frank and Josephine Duveneck while on their honeymoon in 1913 traveling through Asia. It was brought to the community’s attention that the Buddhist symbols were experienced differently and some individuals experienced harm from their presence on the building. A process to address the issue was identified with Staff and Board. After community discussions, on Monday, June 6, the decision was made to remove the tiles from the building. They were removed on Tuesday, June 7.
The resignation of our Camp leadership team on June 5th, prior to the decision of the Committee on June 6, put us in the position of making the difficult decision regarding Camp. It also highlights the need for the organization to continue to pause, reflect, and further develop plans of action to address the racial equity concerns shared by staff. Honoring and welcoming people from all backgrounds at Hidden Villa is core to who we are and what we stand for. Any pain that our current and former staff, especially any Staff of Color, have felt during their tenure at the organization, deeply saddens us. We are committed to creating an environment where all feel seen, welcome, and heard.
Hidden Villa has been investing in issues of racial equity over the last couple of years, such as the formation of the JEDI (Justice, Equity, Diversity, and Inclusion) Council, the DEIA (Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, and Access) Advisory Committee, and staff training, but for some, the pace of change has been too slow. Unfortunately, in organizing a complex and inclusive process, we were too slow to respond to the voices that expressed pain and concern over the symbols on the house, and we recognize how that was interpreted as a lack of concern.
The decision to cancel Camp has been heart-wrenching and staff is still triaging care for all involved. We acknowledge the impact our decision to cancel Camp has had a truly painful impact on the 900+ campers, approximately 700 families, Hidden Villa seasonal Camp staff, partners, and vendors who help us deliver our Summer Camp. Over the next few weeks, we will continue to come together internally to outline the next steps to address these issues, restore the health of our community process, and we will share the plan with you.
Quote from: https://www.hiddenvilla.org/programs/summer-camps/region-HV/
June 13, 2022
Dear Hidden Villa Community,
I hope this email finds you well. Following up on our email from June 8, we have additional updates to share with you.
As a community, many of us are still reeling, processing, and in pain from the recent events that have transpired. This week, we are focused on an internal reflection process. All staff members will be invited to participate in a series of facilitated meetings to ensure that staff is heard, understood, and given space to voice their perspectives.
Hearing from our valued community members is also important, so in the near future we’ll be reaching out to groups of program participants, donors, former staff, mission-aligned organization partners, and other affinity groups. After we go through this listening process, we will then create an actionable plan that outlines our systems and structure to ensure that we uphold the values that are fundamental to Hidden Villa. Our hope is this will lead towards a restorative process and developing positive strategies for moving forward as an organization.
During this week of reflection, Hidden Villa will be closed (from Monday, June 13 through Monday, June 20). We plan to open to visitors again starting on Tuesday, June 21st. Please visit our website for more information on planning your trip.
We also want to share that Philip Arca tendered his resignation on Friday, June 10, as Interim Executive Director due to health reasons. The search for a new, long-term Executive Director continues. We will be seeking a candidate who demonstrates commitment and expertise in embedding diversity, equity, and inclusion principles and systems into an organization. Applicants have been apprised of the closure of Camp and recent events. The Board is actively looking for solutions for the short-term leadership gap.
Finally, a group of staff along with dedicated former staff will be exploring summer programming opportunities for the coming weeks. We will share more information as soon as we have it.
In closing, I want to thank everyone who has reached out. We appreciate the support, perspectives, questions, concerns, and constructive criticism. Hidden Villa is a special place for a large and diverse community. We will continue to do our very best to ensure this community gem remains a refuge that builds connections and inspires a deeper appreciation and respect for nature, food, and one another.
Sincerely,
Peter Hartzell, Board Chair
tiles you may experience differently inside(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWghH18UsAEUFRS?format=jpg&name=small)
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Post by: Boredfrom on June 30, 2022, 06:44:33 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on June 30, 2022, 09:41:10 PM
Post by: Nintex on July 02, 2022, 07:57:59 AM
GAMERGATE CAMP 8)
It's getting hard to keep up with this.
https://twitter.com/Deke_Moulton/status/1542963038449414144 (https://twitter.com/Deke_Moulton/status/1542963038449414144)
Post by: HaughtyFrank on July 02, 2022, 08:17:04 AM
:pika
Post by: VomKriege on July 02, 2022, 09:32:40 AM
It's getting hard to keep up with this.
That Bram Stoker's Dracula is using pretty insensitive stereotypes ? That nefarious secret cabal conspiracies involving blood often overlap with antisemitism ? Seems basic and well understood.
Post by: Kunai With Chain on July 02, 2022, 09:51:33 AM
Post by: VomKriege on July 02, 2022, 09:56:18 AM
Did Dracula try to control the world through his secret cabal?
I don't think so.
https://twitter.com/dizzydoinggreat/status/1542929170224775168
Post by: Potato on July 02, 2022, 05:11:29 PM
Post by: Nintex on July 02, 2022, 07:28:20 PM
Plugging them/their readable
Post by: benjipwns on July 03, 2022, 06:08:21 AM
Post by: benjipwns on July 04, 2022, 11:43:06 PM
(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/07/michael-lopez-1.jpg)
(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/07/michael-lopez-linkedin-post-2-1.jpg)
Post by: Potato on July 04, 2022, 11:55:43 PM
Queer brown person FIRED DURING PRIDE MONTH OF ALL MONTHS for standing up for people with uteruses rights:When will this fuckwit and his ilk learn that it is possible to have a righteous message, but to behave in a way that means you will be fired?
(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/07/michael-lopez-1.jpg)
(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/07/michael-lopez-linkedin-post-2-1.jpg)
Post by: BIONIC on July 05, 2022, 03:24:04 AM
Post by: Uncle on July 05, 2022, 01:28:03 PM
lists previous employer as reference
"oh we fired him because something occurring in american politics caused him to refuse to do his job in protest, very unstable individual, poor judgement"
"sorry sir, it doesn't seem like you'd be a good fit for this company"
not enough savings to maintain his car payments anymore and chooses house over car, meaning he needs to job search locally
only job he can find is at a local california walgreens with inconsistent hours
"sorry mike, we have to close up shop because too many people have shoplifted exactly $950 worth of goods from this location and corporate has decided it's a bad risk"
can no longer afford california
couch surfs and gofundmes his way to a shitty burger king job in utah, surrounded by mormon conservatives blasting their hate rhetoric at him 24/7
life is terrible, no prospects
where did it all go so wrong? it's not me, it must be the system :hmm :idont
Post by: HaughtyFrank on July 05, 2022, 03:09:23 PM
:whatisthis
Post by: james on July 05, 2022, 03:14:57 PM
Post by: BIONIC on July 05, 2022, 03:57:03 PM
Post by: Nintex on July 05, 2022, 05:08:52 PM
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on July 05, 2022, 05:11:14 PM
Post by: james on July 05, 2022, 05:13:55 PM
:fbm
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I also have a massive dong
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Post by: BIONIC on July 05, 2022, 06:52:39 PM
I have a big butt am I a female
:fbmspoiler (click to show/hide)I also have a massive dong[close]
Pics plz :drool
Post by: VomKriege on July 06, 2022, 08:01:00 AM
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on July 06, 2022, 08:06:33 AM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on July 06, 2022, 02:53:56 PM
Dilbert having a bit of a day
Post by: james on July 06, 2022, 03:04:05 PM
3) Listen to emo and nu-metal for hours
Post by: Potato on July 06, 2022, 03:26:30 PM
Thank God I was a teen in the early 2000s because option 3 was available to me.I liked you better when you were just a pedo
3) Listen to emo and nu-metal for hours
Post by: benjipwns on July 06, 2022, 03:33:06 PM
This is the trans version of the Alpha Rivelino green lines and the same 'Michelle Obama is actually a man because she is built like one' talking points :titusI actually am not sure this is about trans people entirely, some of the rhetoric matches trans related stuff because they seem to be saying one sign of these "inverted" is because they are getting the genders wrong. Other tweets read definitely like TERF stuff but then others are more about how the people don't seem to actually be real but some kind of construction. I wonder if she is reading more traditional TERF posts and thinking they also see what she (and others) is seeing about these fake people everywhere when they're just bitching about trans people. In either case, more research is needed and I will accept grants to investigate her further.
Post by: Tuckers Law on July 06, 2022, 04:07:50 PM
Post by: benjipwns on July 06, 2022, 04:21:41 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 06, 2022, 04:26:18 PM
Post by: james on July 06, 2022, 04:58:44 PM
Post by: benjipwns on July 06, 2022, 05:04:39 PM
Hes the next mass shooter, isnt he?I'm skeptical that he has the stamina for it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on July 06, 2022, 05:08:42 PM
https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1544679512327081984
Dilbert having a bit of a day
Thank god young men now have Professor Jorp to tell them to
Post by: Nintex on July 06, 2022, 05:48:40 PM
Hes the next mass shooter, isnt he?I've got my money on Hunter Biden.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on July 09, 2022, 09:12:53 AM
Post by: Potato on July 09, 2022, 02:59:11 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 09, 2022, 04:08:23 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on July 10, 2022, 05:46:58 PM
https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-711725
Post by: Pissy F Benny on July 10, 2022, 06:08:58 PM
Post by: Nintex on July 10, 2022, 06:15:23 PM
:dead
Post by: D3RANG3D on July 10, 2022, 08:35:39 PM
Post by: BIONIC on July 10, 2022, 09:09:19 PM
Post by: Transhuman on July 10, 2022, 09:15:03 PM
Quote
There are only three instances where a ballpoint pen was used in the diary: on two scraps of paper that were added into the diary at a later date (the contents of which have never been considered Anne Frank's writing and are usually attributed to being Otto Frank's notes) and in the page numbers (also probably added by Otto Frank while organizing the writings and papers).
Don't be Halocaust deniers ffs.
Post by: benjipwns on July 11, 2022, 12:22:35 AM
https://twitter.com/violacesario_/status/1545962461852991489
:dead
Post by: james on July 11, 2022, 12:28:38 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 11, 2022, 04:34:07 PM
Post by: Potato on July 11, 2022, 05:21:12 PM
https://twitter.com/miniondeathcult/status/1546511464311058432 (https://twitter.com/miniondeathcult/status/1546511464311058432)
:confused
Post by: VomKriege on July 12, 2022, 09:24:10 AM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on July 12, 2022, 11:02:25 AM
How did that one work out last time?
Post by: VomKriege on July 12, 2022, 12:43:04 PM
Post by: Nintex on July 12, 2022, 05:17:06 PM
:holeup
Post by: benjipwns on July 12, 2022, 07:44:41 PM
Post by: Potato on July 12, 2022, 07:56:18 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on July 12, 2022, 08:31:45 PM
https://twitter.com/MaryMargOlohan/status/1546899739903500289 (https://twitter.com/MaryMargOlohan/status/1546899739903500289)
:holeup
What's interesting is that going by the replies both the left and right think their player just owned the other one
Post by: benjipwns on July 13, 2022, 12:32:53 AM
Post by: Potato on July 13, 2022, 03:58:05 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWMoJfbXkAQjG08?format=jpg&name=small)
There's plenty more where that came from:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/60320573-the-ones-we-burn (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/60320573-the-ones-we-burn)
https://twitter.com/AshiaMonet/status/1541085622559035392 (https://mobile.twitter.com/ashiamonet/status/1541085622559035392?s=21&t=kumNrZ4gOvRh3p-qnHEt1g)
Post by: HaughtyFrank on July 13, 2022, 05:57:03 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWMoJfbXkAQjG08?format=jpg&name=small)
There's plenty more where that came from:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/60320573-the-ones-we-burn (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/60320573-the-ones-we-burn)
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in the interest of being transparent and holding myself accountable, ive deleted my original review and will not be promoting this book any further. Alongside that, i can and will be doing more on my part to be more critical with the books that i choose to promote and uplift on my own platform. i fully acknowledge my part in overlooking the racist and antisemetic elements in this book, and i deeply apologize to those i directly impacted with my initial recommendation and review.
i’ll be updating this with more info, but check the original thread here
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Edit as of 6/27: After listening to Black and Jewish readers who pointed out the racism and antisemitism in the book, I'm taking down my review. Black readers have rightfully pointed out that this book is a reverse racism fantasy, where the Black people in power are oppressing the white people. And Jewish readers have rightfully pointed out that the main character being a blood witch falls into the harmful trope of a blood libel, which is antisemitic propaganda. I fully acknowledge that it was because of my white privilege that I missed these problematic aspects as I was reading the book, and I need to work on my own internal biases and educate myself more on harmful, racist and antisemitic tropes in general so that I learn to recognize them in the first place. I sincerely apologize to anyone that I recommended this book to, especially my Black and Jewish followers, and I hold myself fully accountable for that. I've already taken down all of my tiktoks about the book and will be posting a video explaining why tonight.
The YA scene is one of the craziest out there
Post by: VomKriege on July 13, 2022, 06:37:29 AM
Post by: tiesto on July 13, 2022, 09:29:20 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/XtwjBVB.jpg)
Hmm, would she rather a bit of bull yogurt? ;)
Post by: benjipwns on July 14, 2022, 01:37:25 PM
The YA scene is one of the craziest out thereRelated content:
https://twitter.com/yenwoda/status/1547285713187753985
https://twitter.com/Baalcebub/status/1547333344832245760
https://twitter.com/TyTySciFi/status/1547202657684791296
Post by: Potato on July 14, 2022, 07:36:11 PM
:dunno
Post by: Nintex on July 15, 2022, 03:41:17 AM
Embrace tradition :rejoice
Post by: Potato on July 15, 2022, 03:51:56 AM
https://twitter.com/ZenobiaShroff/status/1547406348035538944 (https://twitter.com/ZenobiaShroff/status/1547406348035538944)Consensus on well respected media critique site theboredotcum says it's one of the better Disney+ Marvel shows.
Embrace tradition :rejoice
Post by: Nintex on July 15, 2022, 02:26:59 PM
wow if true
Post by: Potato on July 15, 2022, 04:08:02 PM
https://twitter.com/ABCReligion/status/1547703755818143751 (https://twitter.com/ABCReligion/status/1547703755818143751)I've noticed a few "gaming hysteria" news pieces the last couple of weeks. There was a "children can get addicted to games" story last night on the 6pm news bulletin. Someone must be trying to stir some stupid shit up.
wow if true
Post by: benjipwns on July 15, 2022, 09:06:32 PM
Post by: Potato on July 15, 2022, 11:13:39 PM
https://twitter.com/PabloReports/status/1547335454248280064 (https://twitter.com/PabloReports/status/1547335454248280064)Can't wait for white progressives to shout down the Latina migrant.
Post by: Potato on July 16, 2022, 12:15:33 AM
House of the Dragon Makes One Much Needed Lore Change to Game of Thrones
No prizes for guessing what that "one much needed lore change" is...
Post by: VomKriege on July 16, 2022, 08:37:07 PM
Post by: benjipwns on July 16, 2022, 11:21:23 PM
oof
https://twitter.com/REPRORising_VA/status/1547656303610191874
https://twitter.com/REPRORising_VA/status/1547656308588851205
https://twitter.com/REPRORising_VA/status/1547656319762501636
https://twitter.com/REPRORising_VA/status/1547656308588851205
https://twitter.com/REPRORising_VA/status/1547656319762501636
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DO BETTER :social
https://twitter.com/REPRORising_VA/status/1547769211396665345
https://twitter.com/REPRORising_VA/status/1547770129601048577
Post by: chronovore on July 17, 2022, 03:54:18 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/XtwjBVB.jpg)
This image unfortunately cuts off the best response:
http://twitter.com/bax_connor/status/1340813372418215938
Post by: HaughtyFrank on July 17, 2022, 06:44:56 AM
https://twitter.com/REPRORising_VA/status/1547656317019402242
I'm confused. How is that supposed to be wearing oppression as a costume? The whole point is that they're feeling oppressed. Also there's literally a black woman in the image they're using
Post by: Nintex on July 17, 2022, 10:22:31 AM
https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/1548683144852799489 (https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/1548683144852799489)
Post by: VomKriege on July 18, 2022, 03:06:05 PM
Post by: benjipwns on July 19, 2022, 10:11:54 PM
:bernie
Post by: benjipwns on July 19, 2022, 10:17:25 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 19, 2022, 10:20:06 PM
Post by: benjipwns on July 20, 2022, 12:22:06 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYEi2OQWAAAEWRS?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Post by: chronovore on July 20, 2022, 01:21:54 AM
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on July 20, 2022, 08:38:32 AM
Post by: benjipwns on July 20, 2022, 05:39:55 PM
Post by: Polident Hive on July 20, 2022, 06:43:22 PM
Bernie would probably be called centrist in many European countries. Just one more sign about how fucked up America is.
Yeah. Honestly thought Bernie was as left as would be acceptable in America. Still think it’s true, but he was buried, as shown in those tweets.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on July 20, 2022, 06:46:58 PM
Post by: Uncle on July 20, 2022, 06:47:23 PM
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 20, 2022, 07:33:11 PM
If I say I like bananas, I am not erasing oranges or not being inclusive enough to pears. I like bananas and am talking about them, alone.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://youtu.be/2yzY-HUvavU
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Post by: HaughtyFrank on July 20, 2022, 07:43:16 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYGp8ZgaUAAhvjC?format=jpg&name=small)
Finally I feel confident enough to talk about how handicapped parking spots are ableist towards the non disabled
Post by: Potato on July 20, 2022, 09:03:19 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYGp8ZgaUAAhvjC?format=jpg&name=small)Removing bike lanes is anti-ableist because it will mean more cyclists are hit by cars thus creating more disabled people!!!
Checkmate fucking atheists
Post by: benjipwns on July 20, 2022, 09:04:01 PM
I really think a lot of this stuff is deliberate psyops that has completely ruined internet discourse and broken a lot of people's brains. The fact that corporations have so easily implemented this stuff into their HR and PR departments is a red flag for me. It's such an effective way to neutralize or deflect criticism, or absolve guilt.I always read it as perfect must always be the enemy of good meets constantly mindreading people's true deep dark nefarious intentions.
If I say I like bananas, I am not erasing oranges or not being inclusive enough to pears. I like bananas and am talking about them, alone.spoiler (click to show/hide)https://youtu.be/2yzY-HUvavU[close]
You want us to only plant bananas? You want to eliminate all fruits except bananas? Nobody should eat anything BUT bananas? You want people who don't like bananas to JUST DIE?!? FUCK OFF PD!
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 20, 2022, 11:38:45 PM
It's an exhaustive game, largely reserved to the internet but also seeping into specific real life sectors (education). Certainly not worth obsessing over and I hate the way "woke" has been sloppily co-opted to mean anything that isn't 100% white.
Post by: Uncle on July 21, 2022, 09:30:07 AM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on July 21, 2022, 09:56:26 AM
Post by: james on July 21, 2022, 09:59:24 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYGp8ZgaUAAhvjC?format=jpg&name=small)
https://twitter.com/klagowski/status/1549839337096896527
Post by: HaughtyFrank on July 21, 2022, 12:52:46 PM
They did it, they canceled Dave :cry
Post by: Uncle on July 21, 2022, 01:53:18 PM
and now they've made the decision not to be a box with black people in it 👀
Post by: Nintex on July 21, 2022, 02:10:20 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on July 21, 2022, 02:13:34 PM
Post by: bork on July 21, 2022, 02:42:01 PM
:heyman
From the comments, the show was moved because the staff at the other theater were on strike over Dave being booked.
:mindblown
Post by: Nintex on July 21, 2022, 02:47:03 PM
These are dark, dark times.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on July 21, 2022, 03:08:56 PM
*Replies locked*
:doge
Post by: VomKriege on July 21, 2022, 05:09:25 PM
https://twitter.com/yeoldedad/status/1549732310375092224
That image is an amazing troll :lol
Post by: Tasty on July 21, 2022, 05:45:06 PM
Thank God I was a teen in the early 2000s because option 3 was available to me.
3) Listen to emo and nu-metal for hours
:preach
Post by: VomKriege on July 22, 2022, 05:44:59 AM
https://twitter.com/thornyredr0se/status/1550075457718038528
:derp
Post by: benjipwns on July 23, 2022, 01:51:02 AM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/sobverity/status/1550375758253723649
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Post by: VomKriege on July 23, 2022, 10:48:48 AM
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 23, 2022, 11:52:44 AM
Like...what are we even doing at this point.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on July 23, 2022, 02:48:06 PM
https://twitter.com/jbarro/status/1550845822371348481
Like...what are we even doing at this point.
(https://i.imgur.com/GMfdHnA.jpg)
Author wrote a whole list and forgot to name racism. Like clearly they're just upset about capitalism
Post by: Pissy F Benny on July 23, 2022, 03:17:30 PM
Post by: Transhuman on July 23, 2022, 05:04:13 PM
White supremacy is, like a lot of words now, being redefined to only mean Things I Don't Like :kermit
You're doing a number 3 and a number 5 right now
Post by: OnlyRegret on July 23, 2022, 06:56:28 PM
Post by: benjipwns on July 23, 2022, 07:06:40 PM
Like...what are we even doing at this point.https://twitter.com/max_fletcher/status/1550847429658005508
https://twitter.com/max_fletcher/status/1550855228324454400
Post by: Nintex on July 23, 2022, 07:12:24 PM
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/6-21-2015/OFTcBF.gif)
Post by: Pissy F Benny on July 23, 2022, 08:26:11 PM
White supremacy is, like a lot of words now, being redefined to only mean Things I Don't Like :kermit
You're doing a number 3 and a number 5 right now
BOGAN SUPREMACY :drudge
Post by: Boredfrom on July 23, 2022, 08:50:50 PM
https://twitter.com/jbarro/status/1550845822371348481
Like...what are we even doing at this point.
(https://i.imgur.com/GMfdHnA.jpg)
Author wrote a whole list and forgot to name racism. Like clearly they're just upset about capitalism
So the tweet he was responding too was deleted. To give context: Is a tweet where a Harvard graduate bitches about Biden working while sick is “white supremacy”.
Post by: Potato on July 23, 2022, 11:08:47 PM
This has got some real culture war vibes.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on July 24, 2022, 12:11:40 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaYogi3zzRY
This has got some real culture war vibes.
This is the script that disney turned down for wakanda forever
Post by: HaughtyFrank on July 24, 2022, 12:06:04 PM
This ones kinda funny. Changing the name definitely has its roots in patriarchy but at the same time it doesn't sound exactly feminist to tell J. Lo what to do
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Whether or not to take a spouse’s name is a personal decision. But the personal is political — now more than ever, and especially for celebrities. Like every star, or every mortal with an Instagram account, Ms. Affleck has constructed a persona for public consumption. She has used her platforms to tell the tale of the upward trajectory of a strong, independent woman, a woman who has gone from backup dancer to global superstar. Her brand is intense competence and hard-core self-sufficiency — “in control and loving it,” as she sings in “Jenny From the Block.” Whoever Jennifer Affleck is in her private life, J. Lo is a woman who might love a man but doesn’t need one.
Imagine if, in her newsletter, she had said, “I love my husband. Right now, though, women are under attack, and I won’t participate in a tradition that’s historically rooted in women relinquishing their identities and their legal standing. I’m giving my husband my heart, but I’m keeping my name.” Imagine if Ben Affleck had become Ben Lopez.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on July 24, 2022, 12:10:25 PM
Maybe your Jordan Peterson types were right about modern feminism being a waste of time if these are the battles they have left to fight :society
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on July 24, 2022, 12:23:52 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 24, 2022, 12:51:32 PM
The death of a culture
Somewhere the vulture
Somewhere the vulture
Is waiting for us in an erected sun
A sun with an ion gun
Evil comes in round shapes
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 24, 2022, 01:06:32 PM
https://twitter.com/jbarro/status/1550845822371348481
Like...what are we even doing at this point.
(https://i.imgur.com/GMfdHnA.jpg)
Author wrote a whole list and forgot to name racism. Like clearly they're just upset about capitalism
So the tweet he was responding too was deleted. To give context: Is a tweet where a Harvard graduate bitches about Biden working while sick is “white supremacy”.
It's such a wild claim with no real historical context. Every society on earth was built by people who worked through some form of sickness. I've been sick and gone to work before, pre-covid/WFH. Slight runny nose? Headache? Sore throat? That's not "urgency," it's understanding when you're fucked and when you aren't fucked. Biden himself said the symptoms were mild and looked/sounded good in the video he released. If he wants to work (from home lol) he should.
I'd be far more receptive to an argument about toxic masculinity when it comes to working while sick/injured, not going to the doctor when you should etc. That's a real thing, although certainly not what Biden is doing.
Post by: benjipwns on July 25, 2022, 05:19:03 PM
Post by: Potato on July 25, 2022, 07:00:08 PM
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Several Manly players are considering boycotting Thursday night's match with the Sydney Roosters over the Sea Eagles' decision to wear a gay pride jersey in the fixture.
The Sea Eagles announced on Sunday night that they would wear an LGBTQIA+ jersey for the match, with a rainbow design replacing the strip's white hoops.
But that decision has caused some unrest among players who are unhappy they were not consulted by club management.
Kieran Foran, Reuben Garrick and Sean Keppie were among those to help launch the strip but other players claim they learned about the move over social media on Sunday night.
Their concerns relate to questions that could arise from within their respective cultures.
Manly's management were to meet over the issue on Tuesday but that was set to be rushed forward to Monday night.
Club great Ian Roberts, who in 1995 became the first rugby league player to come out as openly gay, told The Daily Telegraph he was disappointed by the response of the players not willing to wear the jersey.
"I try to see it from all perspectives but this breaks my heart," Roberts said.
"It's sad and uncomfortable. As an older gay man, this isn't unfamiliar. I did wonder whether there would be any religious push back.
"That's why I think the NRL have never had a pride round.
"I can promise you every young kid on the northern beaches who is dealing with their sexuality would have heard about this."
Manly is a rich upper class suburb in Northern Sydney.
Rugby League is a working class game.
A huge majority of the players in the league are Pacific Islanders from conservative religious backgrounds (Mormons and the like). Manly has more than a few Pacific Islanders in their team.
Manly decides to launch the jersey exclusively using blokes that look like this:
(https://i.imgur.com/rAXFFYw.jpg)
But they didn't bother consulting with or even telling the guys that look like this:
(https://i.imgur.com/p6UjnOB.jpg)
And now they are stuck in a situation where "several" players are refusing to wear the jersey and most likely won't play in the next game.
Post by: james on July 25, 2022, 07:43:51 PM
Post by: benjipwns on July 25, 2022, 11:24:38 PM
Post by: Potato on July 25, 2022, 11:48:57 PM
Post by: benjipwns on July 26, 2022, 12:38:59 AM
Post by: HardcoreRetro on July 26, 2022, 03:13:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaYogi3zzRY
This has got some real culture war vibes.
"Rather than being a kingdom fighting for pan-African unity and resistance to foreign invasion, in truth the conflicts depicted centered around the slave trade. The Kingdom of Dahomey was heavily invested in capturing and selling Africans slaves."
Damn, I guess we're not that different after all.
Post by: Potato on July 26, 2022, 03:33:03 AM
Holy shit. I knew it. This had "rewriting history" all over it.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaYogi3zzRY
This has got some real culture war vibes.
"Rather than being a kingdom fighting for pan-African unity and resistance to foreign invasion, in truth the conflicts depicted centered around the slave trade. The Kingdom of Dahomey was heavily invested in capturing and selling Africans slaves."
Damn, I guess we're not that different after all.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahomey
Post by: Uncle on July 26, 2022, 07:16:01 AM
You're going to have to explain that one
this is the post of a man committed to anti-racism, who doesn't even pick up on the dogwhistles Disney puts out
Post by: HardcoreRetro on July 26, 2022, 10:33:22 AM
Fuck Disney.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on July 26, 2022, 01:37:43 PM
Holy shit. I knew it. This had "rewriting history" all over it.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaYogi3zzRY
This has got some real culture war vibes.
"Rather than being a kingdom fighting for pan-African unity and resistance to foreign invasion, in truth the conflicts depicted centered around the slave trade. The Kingdom of Dahomey was heavily invested in capturing and selling Africans slaves."
Damn, I guess we're not that different after all.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahomey
ok that's not the twist I expected. It looks pretty much like someone wanted to capture the same energy as Black Panther but make it historical, which is a cool idea, but I guess reality is a bit more complicated.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 26, 2022, 04:17:40 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 26, 2022, 04:25:21 PM
Post by: james on July 26, 2022, 04:37:52 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on July 26, 2022, 05:22:41 PM
Post by: benjipwns on July 26, 2022, 09:58:26 PM
Post by: Potato on July 27, 2022, 03:19:46 AM
Post by: benjipwns on July 27, 2022, 05:04:36 AM
Post by: jorma on July 27, 2022, 06:11:39 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYoC1e8WIAAEymt?format=png&name=small)
that probably explains why i found it such a hard read when i went to sunday school :lol
Post by: chronovore on July 27, 2022, 07:39:46 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYoC1e8WIAAEymt?format=png&name=small)
Great, shithead. Go ahead an prove it to me in the original Aramaic.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
I'll also accept "the original Klingon."
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Post by: Nintex on July 27, 2022, 08:44:15 AM
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She went quiet for a moment, looking down at the bubbles deep in thought. Then she looked up again. With a confident smile, she confirmed, ‘I’m a boy today’.:dead
Post by: HaughtyFrank on July 27, 2022, 10:45:47 AM
Post by: james on July 27, 2022, 10:46:56 AM
Post by: BIONIC on July 27, 2022, 12:41:00 PM
I think shosta goes by shx/hex these days
Shonda actually goes by dumbass/biiiaaatttcchhh
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on July 27, 2022, 12:46:01 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYoC1e8WIAAEymt?format=png&name=small)
You almost tricked me into thinking this was twitter
Post by: Nintex on July 28, 2022, 04:25:50 AM
Post by: benjipwns on July 29, 2022, 01:22:15 PM
Post by: Tuckers Law on July 29, 2022, 01:38:03 PM
Critical Drinker is a very solid critic btw :wow
Post by: Uncle on July 29, 2022, 03:04:10 PM
Post by: benjipwns on July 29, 2022, 08:27:10 PM
https://twitter.com/lavern_spicer/status/1552066237420765186(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYoC1e8WIAAEymt?format=png&name=small)
Great, shithead. Go ahead an prove it to me in the original Aramaic.spoiler (click to show/hide)I'll also accept "the original Klingon."[close]
https://twitter.com/lavern_spicer/status/1552067226089541632
https://twitter.com/lavern_spicer/status/1552073142532804608
https://twitter.com/lavern_spicer/status/1552081553127358467
Post by: chronovore on July 30, 2022, 05:35:45 AM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on July 30, 2022, 05:46:15 AM
Post by: Nintex on July 30, 2022, 08:10:20 AM
Her Twitter is fucking wild :lol
Post by: Potato on July 30, 2022, 05:30:13 PM
Post by: Nintex on July 30, 2022, 06:02:49 PM
American "Christians" just make this sort of shit up as they go, right? Like, some of the interpretations of the Bible are just :dogeIt's like those JRPG's that use religion as their inspiration. :lol
Post by: VomKriege on July 30, 2022, 06:58:02 PM
Post by: Nintex on July 30, 2022, 07:04:31 PM
Post by: Potato on July 30, 2022, 07:16:32 PM
Her face tells the whole story :lolThere's two other parts of her that are telling a story of their own...
spoiler (click to show/hide)
...in my pants
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Post by: benjipwns on July 30, 2022, 11:02:37 PM
"I have never used a pronoun in my life" :lolIt's art. :delicious
Post by: Nintex on July 31, 2022, 04:14:44 AM
:pika
Post by: Uncle on July 31, 2022, 09:54:51 AM
like yes threatening to murder members of parliament might cause some anxiety and would also earn you a checkup in the US
:idont
Post by: HaughtyFrank on July 31, 2022, 10:00:31 AM
I guess it depends on what he said, I can interpret that as classic british understatement
like yes threatening to murder members of parliament might cause some anxiety and would also earn you a checkup in the US
:idont
Apparently he posted this:
https://twitter.com/greggscott/status/1553492737277804545
Which is yeah, dumb, but not really handcuff dumb
Post by: HaughtyFrank on July 31, 2022, 10:07:48 AM
https://twitter.com/JavaidUsama/status/1552734948175384579
Something I recently discovered is that there's also a rise of anti-anti-sjw youtubers. And while progressive youtubers always existed I find it particularly interesting how they now exactly copy the style of the anti-woke ones. Same type of thumbnails, video titles, video format, making a new video pretty much everyday...
(https://i.imgur.com/34raGKr.png)
Post by: Uncle on July 31, 2022, 10:07:55 AM
I guess it depends on what he said, I can interpret that as classic british understatement
like yes threatening to murder members of parliament might cause some anxiety and would also earn you a checkup in the US
:idont
Apparently he posted this:
https://twitter.com/greggscott/status/1553492737277804545
Which is yeah, dumb, but not really handcuff dumb
when I try to look for the benefit of the doubt
:picard
a reply also says it was even just a share, he didn't post it himself
Post by: Transhuman on July 31, 2022, 11:04:07 AM
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https://youtu.be/HWk_AXFReRg
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Post by: Nintex on July 31, 2022, 11:18:19 AM
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Femninists FURIOUS as Sonic's success proves gamers right
that's right :mario
Post by: benjipwns on July 31, 2022, 10:36:24 PM
Something I recently discovered is that there's also a rise of anti-anti-sjw youtubers. And while progressive youtubers always existed I find it particularly interesting how they now exactly copy the style of the anti-woke ones. Same type of thumbnails, video titles, video format, making a new video pretty much everyday...Who watches this shit? Look at those video lengths.
(https://i.imgur.com/34raGKr.png)
People compare it to cable news but that's completely different I think. Watch Tucker Carlson or Rachel Maddow, yes, they have a worldview that supposedly informs everything but they'll cover like ten topics on a show not spend thirty minutes on a single thing from pop culture.
You can completely disagree with Tucker Carlson and watch his show and get informed. You'll get a sense of "what's going on" in media circles, you'll learn what conservatives are or are about to be outraged about, you might hear a story that's not really covered elsewhere because it's one of Tucker's obsessions and then you can go learn about that story from better sources, etc. What can you possibly learn from these kinds of channels?
Post by: benjipwns on July 31, 2022, 10:39:28 PM
Post by: Potato on July 31, 2022, 10:53:54 PM
To me, it's unbelievable how much credit the younger generations get for being "media savvy" when they give shit YouTube videos as much creedence as actual professional media as long as it supports their political/cultural worldview.Something I recently discovered is that there's also a rise of anti-anti-sjw youtubers. And while progressive youtubers always existed I find it particularly interesting how they now exactly copy the style of the anti-woke ones. Same type of thumbnails, video titles, video format, making a new video pretty much everyday...Who watches this shit? Look at those video lengths.
(https://i.imgur.com/34raGKr.png)
People compare it to cable news but that's completely different I think. Watch Tucker Carlson or Rachel Maddow, yes, they have a worldview that supposedly informs everything but they'll cover like ten topics on a show not spend thirty minutes on a single thing from pop culture.
You can completely disagree with Tucker Carlson and watch his show and get informed. You'll get a sense of "what's going on" in media circles, you'll learn what conservatives are or are about to be outraged about, you might hear a story that's not really covered elsewhere because it's one of Tucker's obsessions and then you can go learn about that story from better sources, etc. What can you possibly learn from these kinds of channels?
Post by: Uncle on August 01, 2022, 12:05:13 AM
Who watches this shit? Look at those video lengths.
People compare it to cable news but that's completely different I think. Watch Tucker Carlson or Rachel Maddow, yes, they have a worldview that supposedly informs everything but they'll cover like ten topics on a show not spend thirty minutes on a single thing from pop culture.
You can completely disagree with Tucker Carlson and watch his show and get informed. You'll get a sense of "what's going on" in media circles, you'll learn what conservatives are or are about to be outraged about, you might hear a story that's not really covered elsewhere because it's one of Tucker's obsessions and then you can go learn about that story from better sources, etc. What can you possibly learn from these kinds of channels?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z36YdEZT6Vg
Post by: Tuckers Law on August 01, 2022, 01:14:50 AM
Media savvy? Probably not. Distrustful of professional media though, certainly, especially when shitheads like Taylor Lorenz can remain employed at the top establishments after repeated ethical failures and "missteps". They see a system being gamed by those who are bought and paid for it, at the detriment of the people at large (regardless of whether or not that statement is actually true).To me, it's unbelievable how much credit the younger generations get for being "media savvy" when they give shit YouTube videos as much creedence as actual professional media as long as it supports their political/cultural worldview.Something I recently discovered is that there's also a rise of anti-anti-sjw youtubers. And while progressive youtubers always existed I find it particularly interesting how they now exactly copy the style of the anti-woke ones. Same type of thumbnails, video titles, video format, making a new video pretty much everyday...Who watches this shit? Look at those video lengths.
(https://i.imgur.com/34raGKr.png)
People compare it to cable news but that's completely different I think. Watch Tucker Carlson or Rachel Maddow, yes, they have a worldview that supposedly informs everything but they'll cover like ten topics on a show not spend thirty minutes on a single thing from pop culture.
You can completely disagree with Tucker Carlson and watch his show and get informed. You'll get a sense of "what's going on" in media circles, you'll learn what conservatives are or are about to be outraged about, you might hear a story that's not really covered elsewhere because it's one of Tucker's obsessions and then you can go learn about that story from better sources, etc. What can you possibly learn from these kinds of channels?
Post by: Boredfrom on August 01, 2022, 01:27:55 AM
https://twitter.com/JavaidUsama/status/1552734948175384579
Something I recently discovered is that there's also a rise of anti-anti-sjw youtubers. And while progressive youtubers always existed I find it particularly interesting how they now exactly copy the style of the anti-woke ones. Same type of thumbnails, video titles, video format, making a new video pretty much everyday...
(https://i.imgur.com/34raGKr.png)
Being fair, I’m pretty sure YouTube encourages this kind thumbnails and video titles. Doesn’t mean they aren’t annoying clickbait trash, just that YouTube itself encourages this shit (and a reason why being a hardcore leftist in YouTube is kind of laughable).
Also, I wish there were more antiSJW that were not alt right cunts (or progressives that were not shallow assholes bitching about anime tits) rather than this hellhole of “trolls trolling trolls”.
Post by: HardcoreRetro on August 01, 2022, 05:15:56 AM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 01, 2022, 09:10:19 AM
https://twitter.com/miniondeathcult/status/1553504254173650946
when did ulrika johnsson get some comedy tiddy?
Post by: VomKriege on August 02, 2022, 03:34:05 PM
Post by: benjipwns on August 05, 2022, 03:49:17 PM
Post by: benjipwns on August 05, 2022, 04:20:56 PM
https://twitter.com/Hamps59/status/1554296686427660289
https://twitter.com/ljchoquette/status/1554545597629218817
https://twitter.com/KayleePete/status/1554590327041916928
https://twitter.com/Singing_Shrike/status/1554679027683807233
Post by: Polident Hive on August 05, 2022, 04:45:01 PM
???
Post by: VomKriege on August 05, 2022, 04:50:25 PM
Post by: BIONIC on August 05, 2022, 04:57:16 PM
Post by: Nintex on August 07, 2022, 05:35:52 PM
I think he's jumping to conclusions here but at the same time the economic downturn will mean that studios will aim for the biggest demographic and movies they can release worldwide.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on August 07, 2022, 08:24:25 PM
https://twitter.com/LauraJedeed/status/1555557890806644738
https://twitter.com/JordanOnRecord/status/1555590553508749312
He's a snitch :lol
Post by: HaughtyFrank on August 08, 2022, 07:45:54 AM
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on August 08, 2022, 09:04:24 AM
https://twitter.com/LauraJedeed/status/1555557890806644738
they certainly upped their game from sitting in diapers.
Post by: VomKriege on August 09, 2022, 11:41:41 AM
Post by: VomKriege on August 09, 2022, 11:43:58 AM
https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1556818400227119104
https://twitter.com/ZTPetrizzo/status/1556830445588856839
Post by: Uncle on August 09, 2022, 12:06:39 PM
Post by: james on August 09, 2022, 12:29:02 PM
when I see conservatives saying civil war now lock and load brothers in arms, I expect the same results as liberals saying guillotine CEOs, eat the rich, imprison those who literally genocide us day by day
Counterpoint, Timmy McVeigh
Post by: VomKriege on August 09, 2022, 12:40:35 PM
when I see conservatives saying civil war now lock and load brothers in arms, I expect the same results as liberals saying guillotine CEOs, eat the rich, imprison those who literally genocide us day by day
Pretty much, this is the ultimate fantasy but for 97% of those it's "deffo gonna take part! ...if you can deliver the Antifas and war just directly on my lawn."
:engel
I don't think it's a great sign it's so popular a rallying cry no matter how empty and idle it is.
Post by: Uncle on August 09, 2022, 12:48:54 PM
when I see conservatives saying civil war now lock and load brothers in arms, I expect the same results as liberals saying guillotine CEOs, eat the rich, imprison those who literally genocide us day by day
Counterloint, Timmy McVeigh
right, and anyone who actually goes off the deep end and takes action is only going to damage their own side more from the optics, because most people just want to live in peace
Post by: james on August 09, 2022, 12:53:31 PM
when I see conservatives saying civil war now lock and load brothers in arms, I expect the same results as liberals saying guillotine CEOs, eat the rich, imprison those who literally genocide us day by day
Counterloint, Timmy McVeigh
right, and anyone who actually goes off the deep end and takes action is only going to damage their own side more from the optics, because most people just want to live in peace
Counterpoint, American hero Christopher Dorner
Post by: Nintex on August 09, 2022, 12:55:31 PM
https://twitter.com/SymoneDSanders/status/1557019598129709056 (https://twitter.com/SymoneDSanders/status/1557019598129709056)
https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/1557007740039561219 (https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/1557007740039561219)
Post by: Potato on August 09, 2022, 05:47:50 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/LenaRockerHall/status/1556736826278400007
Post by: benjipwns on August 10, 2022, 12:27:59 AM
Quote from: https://www.xxlmag.com/wu-tang-clan-fan-fine-n-word-protect-ya-neck/
According to a report from The National, which was published last Friday (Aug. 5), Kyle Siegel, a 25-year-old White man, was fined £500 ($604 in USD), for using the N-word while rapping The Wu-Tang Clan's 1993 track "Protect Ya Neck." The young man was recording himself for a TikTok video while standing in a women’s bathroom stall.
Unbeknownst to Siegel, however, a woman of mixed race was in the next cubicle and heard him use the racial slur. The woman claimed she was "severely shocked" by the man's actions.
According to the newspaper, Siegel was in Lerwick Sheriff Court to answer the charges that he was using profanity in public. Prosecutor Fiscal Duncan Mackenzie said that Siegel committed the act at 1 a.m. during a birthday party at the Scalloway Boating Club on Feb. 20.
Siegel admitted to the court that he conducted himself in a disorderly manner by entering the female restroom, in which several people were present, including a woman of mixed race, and uttering the N-word. Siegel’s lawyer, Tommy Allan, said his client was "singing along to a TikTok on a friend’s phone."
According to the prosecutor, the man's rapping was so loud that the woman complained before an argument ensued. Apparently, the woman called the police and reported the incident. The officer said a few issues arose from the case, such as "artistic freedom," but he noted Siegel was not a "person of color."
Post by: benjipwns on August 10, 2022, 12:29:04 AM
Post by: benjipwns on August 10, 2022, 12:31:32 AM
Post by: OnlyRegret on August 10, 2022, 01:35:53 AM
Post by: D3RANG3D on August 10, 2022, 11:19:53 PM
:lawd
Post by: Potato on August 11, 2022, 02:58:54 PM
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/features/taika-waititi-tweets-resurfaced-trans-flag-means-death-b2142812.html?amp (https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/features/taika-waititi-tweets-resurfaced-trans-flag-means-death-b2142812.html?amp)
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The latest celebrity to be caught in a “resurfaced tweets” furore is filmmaker and actor Taika Waititi. The 46-year-old New Zealander recently directed the Marvel blockbuster Thor: Love and Thunder, and was in the news yesterday (9 August) following his surprise wedding to pop star Rita Ora. The tweets – shared by Waititi almost a decade ago, in January 2013 – were, many have argued, transphobic and offensive. After making a string of disparaging comments about a beauty pageant, he wrote: “No disrespect to men who want to be/dress as women. I should have just said their make-up looks manly.” Another tweet saw him write: “My trans friends can walk in heels. but you’re right, actual kathoey are better looking.” (“Kathoey” is a Thai term with a complex history of meanings related to transgender people, particularly women.) Waititi was not a well-known public figure at the time – a small role in Green Lantern and his relatively obscure indie film Boy were his most noteworthy credits – so the remarks failed to elicit any substantial backlash until now. Responses have ranged from disappointment, to demands for an apology, to somewhat gleeful condemnation. But even if we all agree that his tweets are objectionable, is diving 10 years into the past for a quick “gotcha” really doing anyone any good?
Post by: Uncle on August 11, 2022, 03:15:58 PM
QuoteBut even if we all agree that his tweets are objectionable, is diving 10 years into the past for a quick “gotcha” really doing anyone any good?
(https://i.imgur.com/mbPbi6S.png)
Post by: benjipwns on August 11, 2022, 04:52:25 PM
https://twitter.com/therealjgutz/status/1557182806207238144
https://twitter.com/therealjgutz/status/1557182809340489728
Post by: HaughtyFrank on August 11, 2022, 05:18:36 PM
oof
"I can excuse pedophilia but I draw the line at cultural appropriation!"
Post by: benjipwns on August 11, 2022, 07:16:36 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/LoUAehw.png)
Post by: benjipwns on August 11, 2022, 07:32:18 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZ5ZLYcXoAAgYbO?format=jpg&name=small)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZ5a0ErXoAE1BOB?format=jpg&name=small)
:hmm
Post by: HaughtyFrank on August 13, 2022, 09:17:36 PM
:wut
Post by: benjipwns on August 13, 2022, 09:23:30 PM
Post by: benjipwns on August 15, 2022, 10:27:16 PM
:hmm
Post by: HaughtyFrank on August 18, 2022, 08:32:07 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/EvIK2rF.png)
And then there's like 60 guys in between who actually want to review the show :lol
Post by: Potato on August 18, 2022, 09:05:43 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 19, 2022, 03:48:39 AM
Post by: Boredfrom on August 19, 2022, 05:00:47 AM
Thank god I don’t give a fuck about the English Dub scene, because I would despair just hearing about this drama: assholes with actual legal advice vs assholes with law grifters.
Post by: Nintex on August 19, 2022, 08:29:36 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Faeg5v7UYAACW4F?format=jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Faeg5v7UsAEc3cG?format=jpg)
Post by: BIONIC on August 19, 2022, 08:31:47 AM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on August 19, 2022, 08:40:35 AM
You know, ComedyIt was kind of funny that within the same monologue where she complains about men mansplaining her field of expertise she mainsplains anger to Hulk, his literal field of experience. Cause you know he might kill an unthinkable number of people if he can't control his anger
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Faeg5v7UYAACW4F?format=jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Faeg5v7UsAEc3cG?format=jpg)
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 19, 2022, 09:16:11 AM
Aragorn is black now. Time to break the Internet!
Post by: Uncle on August 19, 2022, 09:39:47 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/F1vqBx7.jpeg)
https://web.archive.org/web/20220818214005/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/18/technology/dan-price-resign-social-media.html
for years this guy's tweets have gone viral for being angelic and inclusive and an example of the right way to do things
(https://i.imgur.com/xd7zDA3.png)
constantly being upvoted and his detractors downvoted, because they were "just rumors spread by the alt-right who are trying to tear him down"
accusations against him always seemed credible and well-sourced but because he was saying the right words, throngs of people caped for him for free
:hhh
Post by: HardcoreRetro on August 19, 2022, 09:40:22 AM
Post by: Polident Hive on August 19, 2022, 10:24:59 AM
You know, Comedy
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Faeg5v7UYAACW4F?format=jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Faeg5v7UsAEc3cG?format=jpg)
Think the sentiment is true and in theory it could be a good bit. But sometimes it feels writers who spend too much time on Twitter write lines for Twitter. As in, blunt and badly written. Haven’t seen that pacemaker show but I saw similar screen caps there.
There’s a bit in Doctor Strange 2 with Wanda comparing her actions to Strange’s. It was pretty good. Could be read in multiple ways. Attempting to reason with Strange. How men and women are treated differently. Her corrupted delusional state. Had it been in Twitter speak, it’d just be “I, a woman, am judged by society worse than you, Strange; a cis white male!”
Post by: HaughtyFrank on August 19, 2022, 11:13:54 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/wrwf4p/lotr_first_look_at_aragorn_legolas_and_gimli_in/
Aragorn is black now. Time to break the Internet!
I imagine that has to be the intention because honestly no one would give a fuck if they announced some Lord of the rings cards.
Post by: Nintex on August 19, 2022, 12:38:45 PM
Gotta come up with a term for those types. Josses?That 'sentiment' of her will probably end up being her entire character arc.You know, Comedy
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Faeg5v7UYAACW4F?format=jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Faeg5v7UsAEc3cG?format=jpg)
Think the sentiment is true and in theory it could be a good bit. But sometimes it feels writers who spend too much time on Twitter write lines for Twitter. As in, blunt and badly written. Haven’t seen that pacemaker show but I saw similar screen caps there.
There’s a bit in Doctor Strange 2 with Wanda comparing her actions to Strange’s. It was pretty good. Could be read in multiple ways. Attempting to reason with Strange. How men and women are treated differently. Her corrupted delusional state. Had it been in Twitter speak, it’d just be “I, a woman, am judged by society worse than you, Strange; a cis white male!”
She likely won't evolve past that and she won't change her views or grow based on her experiences. Instead, they'll just keep repeating the same sentiment over and over while turning the He-Hulk into a comedic relief punching bag.
Even JRPG's have more character development than your average Disney movie or TV show these days. That's also why they've gotten so stale and boring. It's a shame that Mark Ruffalo's talent is wasted on contentTM like this.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on August 19, 2022, 01:15:33 PM
Gotta come up with a term for those types. Josses?You know, Comedy
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Faeg5v7UYAACW4F?format=jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Faeg5v7UsAEc3cG?format=jpg)
Think the sentiment is true and in theory it could be a good bit. But sometimes it feels writers who spend too much time on Twitter write lines for Twitter. As in, blunt and badly written. Haven’t seen that pacemaker show but I saw similar screen caps there.
There’s a bit in Doctor Strange 2 with Wanda comparing her actions to Strange’s. It was pretty good. Could be read in multiple ways. Attempting to reason with Strange. How men and women are treated differently. Her corrupted delusional state. Had it been in Twitter speak, it’d just be “I, a woman, am judged by society worse than you, Strange; a cis white male!”
There's basically no room for subtext because they want those twitter one liners
https://twitter.com/IMDb/status/1560367868352507905
That this comes off as weird when she's telling this to the guy who's been hunted all over the world by the government because of his angry split personality and even tried to commit suicide is ignored because it's all about getting out that tweet.
Post by: Uncle on August 19, 2022, 01:20:13 PM
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on August 19, 2022, 01:44:04 PM
Think the sentiment is true and in theory it could be a good bit. But sometimes it feels writers who spend too much time on Twitter write lines for Twitter. As in, blunt and badly written. Haven’t seen that pacemaker show but I saw similar screen caps there.
I think you're right; this isn't written as a human speaking to another human, let alone a woman speaking to a family member.
You can almost see:
"Let me tell you what I, a woman, know about anger - buckle up!
🧵 1/11"
Post by: benjipwns on August 19, 2022, 02:32:05 PM
:hmm
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on August 19, 2022, 02:41:53 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/steinkobbe/status/1560406332745867264
Post by: Tasty on August 19, 2022, 03:33:53 PM
Critical Drinker is a very solid critic btw :wow
Can't stand his schtick and his arguments aren't usually very well supported imo.
Post by: Tuckers Law on August 20, 2022, 06:38:43 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on August 22, 2022, 11:46:25 AM
Post by: benjipwns on August 24, 2022, 04:36:39 AM
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FazMrLvakAAN7cx?format=jpg&name=900x900)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FazMrLxaQAAMhxh?format=jpg&name=900x900)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FazMrLwaUAACboy?format=jpg&name=900x900)
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Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on August 24, 2022, 05:05:28 AM
Post by: Tycoon Padre on August 25, 2022, 04:39:58 AM
:skinner
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 26, 2022, 02:10:09 PM
Apparently because there's a tiktok trend where black creators post vids of themselves happily frolicking in nature, no one else can do this or else you're stealing from black people. Kill me.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 26, 2022, 02:53:14 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on August 26, 2022, 03:42:31 PM
https://twitter.com/Johnatron4000/status/1562899135527030784
Apparently because there's a tiktok trend where black creators post vids of themselves happily frolicking in nature, no one else can do this or else you're stealing from black people. Kill me.
The level of seriousness this lady brings to the table is amazing
Post by: Nintex on August 26, 2022, 05:02:04 PM
The Times are a changin' :rimshot
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 26, 2022, 06:09:40 PM
Plus they totally wasted Lance Reddick from what I saw :pacspit
Post by: Nintex on August 26, 2022, 07:10:13 PM
I watched a couple of episodes and it was bleh and had no real reason to be called resident evil at all :dogeYou could tell he was helping the other less experienced and younger actors get through the scenes.
Plus they totally wasted Lance Reddick from what I saw :pacspit
From the few episodes that I watched, he was the best thing about the show but obviously couldn't salvage it.
Post by: Polident Hive on August 26, 2022, 07:58:41 PM
https://twitter.com/Johnatron4000/status/1562899135527030784
Apparently because there's a tiktok trend where black creators post vids of themselves happily frolicking in nature, no one else can do this or else you're stealing from black people. Kill me.
Literally the first frame when it cut to the lady gave “the most annoying person you’ll ever hear” vibes. Closed it. Maybe there’s a compelling point. Don’t care. Am comfortable going through life without hearing it.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on August 26, 2022, 10:41:18 PM
Ben Shapiro getting ready to release another 5 bagger!
Better delay avatar 2 again cause Dark Brandon is winning all the Oscar gold.
https://mobile.twitter.com/hannahgais/status/1563255591396528130
Post by: Nintex on August 27, 2022, 10:56:14 AM
I bet you could make a great Hunter Biden movie or TV series with Christian Bale or Edward Norton as Hunter and Woody Harrelson as Joe.
On the other side of the spectrum Jonah Hill already perfectly portrayed Trump Jr. .
The Better Call Saul crew is done with their show, so what the hell is Netflix waiting for?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on August 27, 2022, 11:45:05 AM
https://twitter.com/Johnatron4000/status/1562899135527030784
Apparently because there's a tiktok trend where black creators post vids of themselves happily frolicking in nature, no one else can do this or else you're stealing from black people. Kill me.
Literally the first frame when it cut to the lady gave “the most annoying person you’ll ever hear” vibes. Closed it. Maybe there’s a compelling point. Don’t care. Am comfortable going through life without hearing it.
maybe is drew wasn't such a n
Post by: benjipwns on August 27, 2022, 12:57:24 PM
Defending hypothetical racist lynching of athletes to own the anti-Muslims. :rollsafe
Post by: benjipwns on August 27, 2022, 12:58:29 PM
https://twitter.com/paulisci/status/1562933185230831617
Post by: Nintex on August 27, 2022, 01:38:54 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on August 27, 2022, 01:43:35 PM
https://twitter.com/cjwerleman/status/1562619055798108160
Defending hypothetical racist lynching of athletes to own the anti-Muslims. :rollsafe
"Activist against islamophobia"
Doing a pretty bad job there
Post by: Nintex on August 27, 2022, 02:11:03 PM
Biden's face at the end :dead
Post by: BIONIC on August 27, 2022, 02:23:42 PM
Post by: Hap Shaughnessy on August 27, 2022, 02:35:41 PM
:hmm
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Or they wanted to just end the race to stop the wrecks.
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Post by: HaughtyFrank on August 27, 2022, 05:35:42 PM
:whatisthis
Post by: benjipwns on August 27, 2022, 05:44:38 PM
Post by: VomKriege on August 28, 2022, 04:37:57 AM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 28, 2022, 11:54:37 AM
Post by: benjipwns on August 28, 2022, 01:36:15 PM
:salute
Post by: benjipwns on August 28, 2022, 09:46:20 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FbRyX-ZagAAmC_-?format=jpg&name=small)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FbRyX-YaQAAHyio?format=jpg&name=900x900)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FbRyX-aaAAA-Xw1?format=jpg&name=900x900)
https://twitter.com/shaTIRED/status/1563714136143446021
https://twitter.com/LetsGetBritt/status/1563752308173053953
:mouf
Post by: HaughtyFrank on August 29, 2022, 06:49:35 AM
:wut
Post by: james on August 29, 2022, 09:57:23 AM
Before I decide that she's a piece of shit
Has she done any nude scenes
Post by: HaughtyFrank on August 29, 2022, 10:00:36 AM
I've never heard of this Sweeney actress
Before I decide that she's a piece of shit
Has she done any nude scenes
Like a shitton of them in Euphoria
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 29, 2022, 10:13:45 AM
Post by: james on August 29, 2022, 10:19:41 AM
I've never heard of this Sweeney actress
Before I decide that she's a piece of shit
Has she done any nude scenes
Like a shitton of them in Euphoria
LEAVE THE POOR GIRL ALONE
Post by: james on August 29, 2022, 10:32:55 AM
(https://people.com/thmb/yFE7vGXzS8_jNXOlbCWhBQET6go=/1000x1500/filters:fill(auto,1)/Sydney-Sweeney-001-8af86e57c1494468a683e18c84cc13a9.jpg)
spoiler (click to show/hide)
im ugly too maybe I have a chance
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Post by: HaughtyFrank on August 29, 2022, 10:33:47 AM
Her dad (or grandad?) is wearing a thin blue line shirt
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FbMWZXnVsAA-ugL?format=jpg&name=medium)
Post by: james on August 29, 2022, 10:39:34 AM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on August 29, 2022, 10:44:14 AM
Do you think the family gathers round to watch her sex scenes together
Quote
When asked how her family feels about the more explicit scenes on the show, Sweeney explained that she invited her entire extended family to the premiere, including her grandparents. Too overwhelmed with excitement, Sweeney didn’t think about the sex scenes in the season 2 opener.
“I was like, ‘It’s a Hollywood premiere! You’ve got to come!’ And we were all sitting next to each other and…giant screen. Like, ginormous screen,” she said, laughing over the embarrassing moment of her scene with Nate Jacobs (played by Jacob Elordi).
When a shocked DeGeneres asked how they responded to Sweeney’s nude scenes, the actress replied, “They said I have the best tits in Hollywood.” The White Lotus actress’ grandmother even waved from the audience, giving a thumbs-up in approval.
:sicko
Post by: james on August 29, 2022, 10:45:31 AM
Post by: BIONIC on August 29, 2022, 10:50:31 AM
I feel the need to actually post the picture.
Her dad (or grandad?) is wearing a thin blue line shirt
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FbMWZXnVsAA-ugL?format=jpg&name=medium)
Aren’t they supposed to be wearing MAGA hats?
Random Twitter users couldn’t have possibly lied to me, could they? :skinner
Post by: james on August 29, 2022, 10:54:28 AM
I feel the need to actually post the picture.
Her dad (or grandad?) is wearing a thin blue line shirt
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FbMWZXnVsAA-ugL?format=jpg&name=medium)
Aren’t they supposed to be wearing MAGA hats?
Random Twitter users couldn’t have possibly lied to me, could they? :skinner
Theres a MAGA had in another photo. A custom one that says "make birthdays great again"
https://preview.redd.it/owm2l2k1pbk91.jpg?width=320&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=6912096cf3e59e183839d3ddbe1964b48d45eabb
Also, for future reference
:nsfw
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:nsfw
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https://i.imgur.com/Wp3go9A.jpg
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 29, 2022, 11:16:29 AM
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(https://i.imgur.com/xTUAIUH.png)
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Post by: BIONIC on August 29, 2022, 11:30:40 AM
Also, for future reference
:nsfwspoiler (click to show/hide):nsfwspoiler (click to show/hide)https://i.imgur.com/Wp3go9A.jpg[close][close]
I would like to make it known just how much I back our boys in blue and our great MAGA king :salute :drool
Post by: Nintex on August 29, 2022, 12:51:11 PM
Asking for a friend at the Mar-A-Lago which was illegally raided by the fake President installed by Facebook and the FBI.
Post by: benjipwns on August 29, 2022, 12:54:26 PM
I too cut off my parents to please a load of people on twitter who I will very probably never meet :rollsafestop 👏 normalizing 👏 having 👏 conservative 👏 and/or 👏 racist 👏 parents 👏 or 👏 other 👏 family 👏 members 👏
Post by: HaughtyFrank on August 29, 2022, 02:35:56 PM
https://twitter.com/Nerdrotics/status/1564300684635394049
Post by: Uncle on August 29, 2022, 03:19:52 PM
Post by: Tuckers Law on August 29, 2022, 06:25:54 PM
I have some real reservations about the upcoming lotr show but some complaints are weird
https://twitter.com/Nerdrotics/status/1564300684635394049
You're not really wrong there, but Gary is super autistic when it comes to Tolkien & LOTR stuff, so dude's been on a massive tear with the show (which I think also looks tepid and soulless).
Post by: Tasty on August 29, 2022, 07:02:41 PM
https://twitter.com/ksorbs/status/1563947933833240576
:wut
What the fuck? :lol
Post by: Tasty on August 29, 2022, 07:10:55 PM
First off I got questions for any straight guy who saw that picture and immediately focused on the t-shirt a man was wearing.
:dead
Post by: benjipwns on August 29, 2022, 08:26:47 PM
What the fuck? :lolKevin Sorbo's non-sequitur tweets about "liberals" or whatever are great. I've thought this for a while. I feel like he randomly sees something and then spends like a whole day workshopping a reply in his head before he tweets it. I don't care if the reality is otherwise, my reality is this is canon.
Post by: benjipwns on August 29, 2022, 11:32:58 PM
Post by: Potato on August 30, 2022, 01:07:10 AM
Post by: HardcoreRetro on August 30, 2022, 04:07:24 AM
Post by: benjipwns on August 30, 2022, 04:37:23 PM
https://twitter.com/gabehudson/status/1561982473852145665
https://twitter.com/gabehudson/status/1562199415791980546
Post by: james on August 30, 2022, 05:25:27 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on August 30, 2022, 06:24:23 PM
https://twitter.com/gabehudson/status/1561979209664368646
https://twitter.com/Misery_Addition/status/1562856661609779205
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 31, 2022, 06:15:52 PM
Art does not exist to reinforce our personal views or agree with our political principles. HOTD in of itself is largely going to be about a woman attempting to destroy the very system/order that led to her mother dying during childbirth.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on August 31, 2022, 06:50:16 PM
The funny thing is that some of the HOTD creators went on a press tour a few months ago and basically shat on Game Of Thrones while stating the new show would be less misogynistic. I've read the book(s) so the minute that labor scene I immediately thought well there goes all that good will.
Art does not exist to reinforce our personal views or agree with our political principles. HOTD in of itself is largely going to be about a woman attempting to destroy the very system/order that led to her mother dying during childbirth.
It's funny to me how this sort of almost revisionist history has become part of marketing (like how Disney announces their first gay character for the tenth time). Like there were several articles about how House of the Dragon finally "fixes what Game of Thrones did wrong" and will have strong female characters and address the sexism in that world, just completely ignoring the strong women that already were in Game of Thrones and that the show also had commentary on the worlds sexism.
All the funnier (but also for the better) that the show kept things exactly as they were.
Post by: Potato on August 31, 2022, 07:16:41 PM
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 31, 2022, 08:46:52 PM
Post by: Polident Hive on August 31, 2022, 10:40:06 PM
:exxy
Post by: benjipwns on August 31, 2022, 10:55:00 PM
Flummoxed at gen x and late millennials who grew up around potential advisory labels on rap CDs and Jack Thompson’s shit warped into compliance.K-Mart was right to not stock, er, I mean deplatform offensive records! Corporations should spend all their time trying to protect consumers from morally harmful things they want! What if some kid buys a Nirvana record and then kills himself because Kurt Cobain did?!? That's literally blood on their hands! DAVE GROHL SHOULD BE IN PRISON! (Not for that, just in general I mean.)
:exxy
Post by: Nintex on September 01, 2022, 02:59:58 PM
https://twitter.com/MsPackyetti/status/1565357582142799873 (https://twitter.com/MsPackyetti/status/1565357582142799873)
:yeshrug
Post by: benjipwns on September 01, 2022, 03:33:07 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FbdN3IuaUAMSISV?format=jpg&name=small)
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 01, 2022, 03:52:00 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on September 03, 2022, 02:59:21 PM
:doge
Post by: HaughtyFrank on September 05, 2022, 05:29:39 AM
Post by: Nintex on September 05, 2022, 12:51:55 PM
https://twitter.com/avalaina/status/1566113680210665473 (https://twitter.com/avalaina/status/1566113680210665473)
Post by: HaughtyFrank on September 05, 2022, 05:53:23 PM
https://twitter.com/lindyli/status/1566633150213677056
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/03/entertainment/lord-of-the-rings-amazon-controversy-blake-cec/index.html
I didn't read all of it but the article seems actually well researched. Presenting the people who say the casting is bad, presenting the ones that say the originals were too white and that the books have racist elements and then taking a look at what Tolkien himself thought about race.
Apparently that's bad journalism now though
Post by: Boredfrom on September 05, 2022, 06:15:07 PM
Post by: benjipwns on September 05, 2022, 06:28:43 PM
but why still pretend “Orcs are totally black guys”.Because that's what they think of Black people.
Post by: benjipwns on September 05, 2022, 10:08:33 PM
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https://twitter.com/nagy_minaj/status/1566150157980295169
https://twitter.com/nagy_minaj/status/1566152392231555074
https://twitter.com/nagy_minaj/status/1566152392231555074
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Post by: benjipwns on September 06, 2022, 07:45:38 PM
https://twitter.com/michellecyca/status/1567145191043403777
https://twitter.com/michellecyca/status/1567145193476083713
Post by: james on September 06, 2022, 09:20:07 PM
This is the native girl policing other people claiming to be native?
:confused
Post by: benjipwns on September 06, 2022, 10:55:53 PM
Post by: benjipwns on September 07, 2022, 01:35:58 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYUBrgWPICw
Post by: benjipwns on September 07, 2022, 01:57:55 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FbxK_QgXoAgHv2P?format=jpg&name=small)
Post by: Nintex on September 07, 2022, 02:05:00 PM
Post by: benjipwns on September 07, 2022, 04:15:02 PM
https://twitter.com/nikicaga/status/1566872668946702337
Post by: Tasty on September 07, 2022, 04:39:44 PM
The funny thing is that some of the HOTD creators went on a press tour a few months ago and basically shat on Game Of Thrones while stating the new show would be less misogynistic. I've read the book(s) so the minute that labor scene I immediately thought well there goes all that good will.
Art does not exist to reinforce our personal views or agree with our political principles. HOTD in of itself is largely going to be about a woman attempting to destroy the very system/order that led to her mother dying during childbirth.
I saw that scene as a hardcore indictment of Viserys and his drive for an heir. He'll push away Rhaenyra, Daemon, and even sentence his own wife to death in pursuit of male progeny. I wouldn't call it a feminist scene but considering a good chunk of dads won't even go in the delivery room, maybe a non-sugarcoated portrayal was necessary to drive the dramatic point home.
Post by: Tasty on September 07, 2022, 04:44:32 PM
“Orcs are totally black guys”.
Does that mean Hobbits are The Gays?
I mean, Mary and Pippin... :thinking
Post by: Potato on September 07, 2022, 05:17:36 PM
The mother would have died either way, so to me it was trying to illustrate the love between King and consort and that in his quest/duty/need for an heir (to also stop his brother becoming King) he had to keep putting her at risk even through all the miscarriages etc. He was between a rock and a hard place so I think it was an illustration of the difficulties of being a king more than trying to paint him as a tyrant.The funny thing is that some of the HOTD creators went on a press tour a few months ago and basically shat on Game Of Thrones while stating the new show would be less misogynistic. I've read the book(s) so the minute that labor scene I immediately thought well there goes all that good will.
Art does not exist to reinforce our personal views or agree with our political principles. HOTD in of itself is largely going to be about a woman attempting to destroy the very system/order that led to her mother dying during childbirth.
I saw that scene as a hardcore indictment of Viserys and his drive for an heir. He'll push away Rhaenyra, Daemon, and even sentence his own wife to death in pursuit of male progeny. I wouldn't call it a feminist scene but considering a good chunk of dads won't even go in the delivery room, maybe a non-sugarcoated portrayal was necessary to drive the dramatic point home.
Post by: Tasty on September 07, 2022, 06:33:36 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on September 08, 2022, 09:55:51 AM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 08, 2022, 10:14:04 AM
That its in the Telegraph (paper for rich old conservative wankers) not the Guardian makes it funny tho.
Post by: HardcoreRetro on September 08, 2022, 10:33:47 AM
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on September 08, 2022, 01:34:55 PM
Post by: Nintex on September 08, 2022, 03:53:26 PM
Post by: james on September 08, 2022, 03:58:48 PM
Electric or STFU
Post by: Potato on September 08, 2022, 04:10:54 PM
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on September 08, 2022, 04:19:30 PM
What kind of pussy can't shave with a proper razor?
lol
Post by: HaughtyFrank on September 08, 2022, 04:44:27 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FcDOl5OXwAE4JQS?format=jpg)
Jeremy's Razor making me think about kids shaving their balls is not good advertising.
Post by: benjipwns on September 08, 2022, 07:24:06 PM
What kind of broke-ass kid uses an analog shaver?
Electric or STFU
What kind of pussy can't shave with a proper razor?The real culture war. :stahp
Post by: james on September 08, 2022, 08:43:46 PM
What kind of broke-ass kid uses an analog shaver?
Electric or STFUWhat kind of pussy can't shave with a proper razor?The real culture war. :stahp
This is a war the Germans won
Post by: HaughtyFrank on September 08, 2022, 10:22:54 PM
https://twitter.com/SierraWhiskey9/status/1567902277884866564
The weird part is that before House of the dragon was released there was also plenty of "Game of thrones goes woke" trash talk because they race swapped some characters but somehow it didn't get the same backlash. Maybe it's because the diverse characters aren't featured as prominently or maybe it's just a better show? Maybe it's not even worth trying to find sense in it
Post by: Potato on September 08, 2022, 11:46:25 PM
Post by: benjipwns on September 09, 2022, 12:09:08 AM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
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https://twitter.com/IncellularStu/status/1567910432966582273
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Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on September 09, 2022, 11:38:44 AM
Quote
“What we have accomplished in such a short time has never been done before in the entire history of the Internet,” Sorrenti wrot
Post by: Tasty on September 09, 2022, 01:56:42 PM
https://twitter.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1567886577556197376
All holy men are potential terrorists, Q.E.D. :ussrcry
Post by: Tasty on September 09, 2022, 02:01:46 PM
The next weird step in the whole Lotr thing
https://twitter.com/SierraWhiskey9/status/1567902277884866564
The weird part is that before House of the dragon was released there was also plenty of "Game of thrones goes woke" trash talk because they race swapped some characters but somehow it didn't get the same backlash. Maybe it's because the diverse characters aren't featured as prominently or maybe it's just a better show? Maybe it's not even worth trying to find sense in it
The difference, honestly, is GRRM's alive to say it's ok and JRRT isn't so he can't.
Take the Dr. Seuss example: he disowned his own racist works in his lifetime, so he probably would have been for the removals last year. But that still didn't stop the thinkpieces about how censorship is destroying society.
Post by: Uncle on September 09, 2022, 04:41:32 PM
The difference, honestly, is GRRM's alive to say it's ok and JRRT isn't so he can't.
Take the Dr. Seuss example: he disowned his own racist works in his lifetime, so he probably would have been for the removals last year. But that still didn't stop the thinkpieces about how censorship is destroying society.
he also could've chosen to stop selling those books when he was alive if he thought they were racist
Post by: Tasty on September 09, 2022, 04:43:48 PM
The difference, honestly, is GRRM's alive to say it's ok and JRRT isn't so he can't.
Take the Dr. Seuss example: he disowned his own racist works in his lifetime, so he probably would have been for the removals last year. But that still didn't stop the thinkpieces about how censorship is destroying society.
he also could've chosen to stop selling those books when he was alive if he thought they were racist
That's IMO part of an unrelated aspect of the Seuss story: that he was kinda an asshole lol. No problem making the money as you said, not to mention his poor wife.
But his beliefs seemed pretty clear on the matter, to me anyways. :yeshrug
Post by: HaughtyFrank on September 09, 2022, 04:49:25 PM
Post by: Potato on September 09, 2022, 05:02:32 PM
If you want to adapt something and race/gender swap, know that some people are going to hate it because they're racists or bigots or maybe just want to see a faithful adaptation.
On the other hand, idiots who complain when even the most mundane thing like a character's skin colour is changed need to grow the fuck up.
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on September 10, 2022, 08:13:29 AM
That Twilight woman made a fucking mint off her Buffy fanfics but getting rid of the scooby doo monster of the week stuff and focussing on the groomer stuff she was into instead.
Then the Fifty Shades woman made a fucking mint off of her Twilight fanfic, but getting rid of the supernatural shit and adding all the BDSM stuff she was more interested in.
If you wanna basically rewrite LOTR as Clintonistas, Bernie Bros and The Squaddists overcoming their internal squabbles and teaming up to take down the maga hat wearing Sauronists, go ahead and fucking do it.
But don't be surprised if you pick up a summary of Resident Evil lore and go "Wow, I really think this would be better as a comedy drama about minority high school girls" and people push back.
Post by: Polident Hive on September 10, 2022, 06:07:16 PM
That’s the fun thing about franchises like Watchmen to Star Wars. Born out of a failure to secure existing franchises, in many ways, eclipsed their inspirations. Stranger Things isn’t exactly the same because I don’t think they wanted to make an It show. Whatever close enough to the point.
Resident Evil, tho. I don’t know what the appeal is to general audiences. Somehow two movies or TV shows released months apart, completely unrelated? Neither based on existing games or those odd RE superhero movies?
Post by: Nintex on September 12, 2022, 06:30:18 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on September 12, 2022, 07:04:38 PM
They’ve got a scene where Gina Carano says, “by the way, epstein didn’t kill himself”.
And the ending is alt history where Rudy Giuliani gets a secret recording of Hunter Biden which leads Hunter and Joe to being arrested and Trump winning re-election.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on September 13, 2022, 12:43:51 PM
What, the??? (...) :cry
Post by: Tasty on September 13, 2022, 04:37:11 PM
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 13, 2022, 09:10:24 PM
The next weird step in the whole Lotr thing
https://twitter.com/SierraWhiskey9/status/1567902277884866564
The weird part is that before House of the dragon was released there was also plenty of "Game of thrones goes woke" trash talk because they race swapped some characters but somehow it didn't get the same backlash. Maybe it's because the diverse characters aren't featured as prominently or maybe it's just a better show? Maybe it's not even worth trying to find sense in it
The difference, honestly, is GRRM's alive to say it's ok and JRRT isn't so he can't.
Take the Dr. Seuss example: he disowned his own racist works in his lifetime, so he probably would have been for the removals last year. But that still didn't stop the thinkpieces about how censorship is destroying society.
Ironically the chick who helped co-write one of the books the show is based, Linda Antonsson, is a straight up hater who has been shitting on the racial/casting choices for years. Also has been fighting back against some of the worst aspects of cultural war shit seeping into fandoms (people trying to erase HP Lovecraft for instance).
I haven't seen LOTR yet but a major complaint beyond the race stuff is people feeling like male characters were essentially emasculated in order to overly inflate Galadriel, making her stand out as more heroic. I get it, Elrond was certainly a steward/politician but he was also a badass. But...Galadriel was a badass too. Her mom literally gave her an elven name that means Man-Maiden. She was tall and literally was a better athlete than the male elves her age. She also participated in multiple battles/wars. That's all lore from shit I read as a kid, so I'm not sure why people are mad at the idea of her fighting...
Post by: HaughtyFrank on September 14, 2022, 04:02:23 PM
The next weird step in the whole Lotr thing
https://twitter.com/SierraWhiskey9/status/1567902277884866564
The weird part is that before House of the dragon was released there was also plenty of "Game of thrones goes woke" trash talk because they race swapped some characters but somehow it didn't get the same backlash. Maybe it's because the diverse characters aren't featured as prominently or maybe it's just a better show? Maybe it's not even worth trying to find sense in it
The difference, honestly, is GRRM's alive to say it's ok and JRRT isn't so he can't.
Take the Dr. Seuss example: he disowned his own racist works in his lifetime, so he probably would have been for the removals last year. But that still didn't stop the thinkpieces about how censorship is destroying society.
Ironically the chick who helped co-write one of the books the show is based, Linda Antonsson, is a straight up hater who has been shitting on the racial/casting choices for years. Also has been fighting back against some of the worst aspects of cultural war shit seeping into fandoms (people trying to erase HP Lovecraft for instance).
I haven't seen LOTR yet but a major complaint beyond the race stuff is people feeling like male characters were essentially emasculated in order to overly inflate Galadriel, making her stand out as more heroic. I get it, Elrond was certainly a steward/politician but he was also a badass. But...Galadriel was a badass too. Her mom literally gave her an elven name that means Man-Maiden. She was tall and literally was a better athlete than the male elves her age. She also participated in multiple battles/wars. That's all lore from shit I read as a kid, so I'm not sure why people are mad at the idea of her fighting...
The "Galadriel is a mary sue" complaints were very strange and felt more like people firing off a playbook instead of actually engaging the show. Yes, she upstages the whole elf squad she is with, but those are also complete no-names and considering that this is the great Galadriel it simply makes sense that she'd be more powerful than some elf soldier.
What I find more worthwhile to critique is that she's a fairly flat character who only seems to be driven by vengeance and falls into the typical "strong female character" archetype, where she's physically strong and ditches most (traditionally) feminine personality traits.
That said, her character arc is I imagine pretty obvious, and through the course of the show she'll likely grow into the kind and wise Galadriel we know from Lotr, so it's not even necessarily a bad thing, cause what would be the point if the character has nowhere to grow, I just think they might have taken it a bit too far here and there which makes her look overly cold.
Post by: jorma on September 14, 2022, 04:12:11 PM
i guess i don't think she's as mary sue as she should be :lol
Post by: benjipwns on September 15, 2022, 02:19:42 PM
https://twitter.com/UTLAUncensored/status/1569915049946525699
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 15, 2022, 03:31:58 PM
Post by: benjipwns on September 15, 2022, 11:15:34 PM
twitter.com/UTLAUncensored/status/1569179938334601217https://twitter.com/whitefeeIings/status/1570100652793278465
twitter.com/UTLAUncensored/status/1569915049946525699
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/whitefeeIings/status/1570224097044615169
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Post by: benjipwns on September 16, 2022, 03:07:50 AM
Post by: Nintex on September 16, 2022, 02:42:34 PM
Post by: benjipwns on September 18, 2022, 04:55:56 PM
Post by: benjipwns on September 18, 2022, 05:06:26 PM
https://twitter.com/ZacBissonnette/status/1571523006425341953
Post by: jorma on September 18, 2022, 05:07:46 PM
https://twitter.com/skepticalspice/status/1570949543692505089
i clicked the tweet and found out that "jorts" is a cat and i'm dying :lol :lol :lol
Post by: benjipwns on September 18, 2022, 05:13:20 PM
i clicked the tweet and found out that "jorts" is a cat and i'm dying :lol :lol :lolhttps://twitter.com/lauowolf/status/1571317478340587521
It worked though because the person has raised $15K:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fc0o9YaWYAAuFD3?format=png&name=small)
Post by: HaughtyFrank on September 18, 2022, 05:25:17 PM
SPOILERS:
https://twitter.com/ZacBissonnette/status/1571523006425341953
There was an even worse case a month ago or so where a videogame basically spoiled a scene right before it happened with their triggerwarning:
https://clips.twitch.tv/DeliciousOpenStarlingWholeWheat-aENVmshARi-Z5UcZ
I can understand a trigger warning at the beginning of the game (though I still think it's dumb since studies have shown that trigger warnings are unlikely to help) but adding a pause midgame to warn the player is some real dumb stuff
Post by: benjipwns on September 18, 2022, 05:52:59 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fc48ToRXEAA4ocA?format=png&name=small)
:dead :dead :dead :dead
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 18, 2022, 08:37:36 PM
https://twitter.com/UTLAUncensored/status/1569179938334601217
https://twitter.com/UTLAUncensored/status/1569915049946525699
This has been going on for years but the insidious nature still blows me away. Heart disease, high blood pressure, and hyper tension kill black people at higher rates than anyone on the planet. Diabetes hurts us worse than anyone besides Hispanic people. All of this is intrinsically tied to weight and diet. That's not an opinion, it's a fact. Instead of dealing with it we've got groups of people black people who do not care about health and will cook their soul food with as much sodium or sugar as they want, no matter what because that's how grandma did it. And now we also have a group of younger black people who have fully bought into white intersectional feminist bullshit groupthink about "fatphobia" all foods/diets being fine.
I always imagine a 400 pound person tweeting this shit and then walking down a flight of stairs at their apartment building. Or simply getting out of bed. Or simply sitting on the toilet. Do they simply think everyone struggles to breath while doing basic things in life, or do they on some deep level acknowledge they are obscenely unhealthy and have not only given up on life - but are dedicated to ensuring others give up as well. It's like this weird cult of acceptance for failure. You could go for a walk and eat healthier...or you could explain how walking/hiking/outdoors activity is fatphobic and that the heath food industry pimps products that are no better/worse than ice cream.
This has real life consequences and impact. These people are swarming into academia and medicine. It's not good.
Post by: benjipwns on September 18, 2022, 08:54:25 PM
I always imagine a 400 pound person tweeting this shit and then walking down a flight of stairs at their apartment building. Or simply getting out of bed. Or simply sitting on the toilet. Do they simply think everyone struggles to breath while doing basic things in life, or do they on some deep level acknowledge they are obscenely unhealthy and have not only given up on life - but are dedicated to ensuring others give up as well. It's like this weird cult of acceptance for failure. You could go for a walk and eat healthier...or you could explain how walking/hiking/outdoors activity is fatphobic and that the heath food industry pimps products that are no better/worse than ice cream.Some of the fat acceptance/liberation people really do make this argument, that everyone suffers physically they just suffer slightly differently in part because the medical community is fatphobic and refuses to correct its fatphobic bias. But that's the public persona I can't know what they truly think.
There's a hilarious Twitter account, that makes all kinds of crazy arguments about this, how reality is fatphobic, how medical science has never proven there's any downsides to being fat, how the "thins" are all genocidal towards fat people, etc. and seems to be at the center of Fat Twitter: https://twitter.com/Artists_Ali
some of her latest rant that I saw just from visiting it now
https://twitter.com/Artists_Ali/status/1570810195185664000
https://twitter.com/Artists_Ali/status/1570812453315018752
https://twitter.com/Artists_Ali/status/1570813425860874242
https://twitter.com/Artists_Ali/status/1570820168787570689
https://twitter.com/Artists_Ali/status/1570821336423108610
https://twitter.com/Artists_Ali/status/1570826049788968963
https://twitter.com/Artists_Ali/status/1570812453315018752
https://twitter.com/Artists_Ali/status/1570813425860874242
https://twitter.com/Artists_Ali/status/1570820168787570689
https://twitter.com/Artists_Ali/status/1570821336423108610
https://twitter.com/Artists_Ali/status/1570826049788968963
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Funniest to me is that she isn't really that fat by many American standards, but lots of her orbiters really are super/infinityfats. They all just repeat the same stuff day in and day out about how much healthier it is to love your fat body instead of being genocidal towards others. One of their big things is that it's violent hatred to ask a patient their weight and this needs to be outlawed.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 18, 2022, 09:20:13 PM
Post by: Polident Hive on September 18, 2022, 09:41:05 PM
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 18, 2022, 11:13:01 PM
I see you and raise you this...I always imagine a 400 pound person tweeting this shit and then walking down a flight of stairs at their apartment building. Or simply getting out of bed. Or simply sitting on the toilet. Do they simply think everyone struggles to breath while doing basic things in life, or do they on some deep level acknowledge they are obscenely unhealthy and have not only given up on life - but are dedicated to ensuring others give up as well. It's like this weird cult of acceptance for failure. You could go for a walk and eat healthier...or you could explain how walking/hiking/outdoors activity is fatphobic and that the heath food industry pimps products that are no better/worse than ice cream.Some of the fat acceptance/liberation people really do make this argument, that everyone suffers physically they just suffer slightly differently in part because the medical community is fatphobic and refuses to correct its fatphobic bias. But that's the public persona I can't know what they truly think.
There's a hilarious Twitter account, that makes all kinds of crazy arguments about this, how reality is fatphobic, how medical science has never proven there's any downsides to being fat, how the "thins" are all genocidal towards fat people, etc. and seems to be at the center of Fat Twitter: https://twitter.com/Artists_Alisome of her latest rant that I saw just from visiting it nowhttps://twitter.com/Artists_Ali/status/1570810195185664000
https://twitter.com/Artists_Ali/status/1570812453315018752
https://twitter.com/Artists_Ali/status/1570813425860874242
https://twitter.com/Artists_Ali/status/1570820168787570689
https://twitter.com/Artists_Ali/status/1570821336423108610
https://twitter.com/Artists_Ali/status/1570826049788968963[close]
Funniest to me is that she isn't really that fat by many American standards, but lots of her orbiters really are super/infinityfats. They all just repeat the same stuff day in and day out about how much healthier it is to love your fat body instead of being genocidal towards others. One of their big things is that it's violent hatred to ask a patient their weight and this needs to be outlawed.
https://fluffykittenparty.com/2021/06/01/fategories-understanding-smallfat-fragility-the-fat-spectrum/
:dead
Family friend of mine is a pediatrician and she said she's got a couple 12-15 year old patients who refuse to be weighed during appointments due to that. Both are overweight or obese, both are unhealthy by any non-BMI metric (blood pressure, cholesterol, etc) yet they simply do not believe it and refuse to participate in "systems constructed by fatphobia." It's utterly insane but this is the shit that's destroying brains/thought/etc.
Also fat people creating their own hierarchy to determine who is oppressed the most is really on brand. Everything is becoming intersectional oppression Olympics. We're doomed.
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on September 19, 2022, 05:29:59 AM
Too often does this read as an over correction. Escaping “nothing tastes better than skinny” and coke chic dumb attitudes to land at “never ending means never ending, ladies. Let’s bankrupt the olive garden!” One way or the other, you shouldn’t need to vomit after a meal.
So many Awfully Online People are so malignant in exactly the same ways the people they constantly rail against are, the whole thing feels like a fucking impromptu shirts vs skins and they're not massive arseholes because they're on Shirts this time, that's just where the coin toss landed them this time and they would be doing the exact same shit for the other team under near identical circumstances on a parallel earth.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 19, 2022, 01:55:21 PM
I see you and raise you this...I always imagine a 400 pound person tweeting this shit and then walking down a flight of stairs at their apartment building. Or simply getting out of bed. Or simply sitting on the toilet. Do they simply think everyone struggles to breath while doing basic things in life, or do they on some deep level acknowledge they are obscenely unhealthy and have not only given up on life - but are dedicated to ensuring others give up as well. It's like this weird cult of acceptance for failure. You could go for a walk and eat healthier...or you could explain how walking/hiking/outdoors activity is fatphobic and that the heath food industry pimps products that are no better/worse than ice cream.Some of the fat acceptance/liberation people really do make this argument, that everyone suffers physically they just suffer slightly differently in part because the medical community is fatphobic and refuses to correct its fatphobic bias. But that's the public persona I can't know what they truly think.
There's a hilarious Twitter account, that makes all kinds of crazy arguments about this, how reality is fatphobic, how medical science has never proven there's any downsides to being fat, how the "thins" are all genocidal towards fat people, etc. and seems to be at the center of Fat Twitter: https://twitter.com/Artists_Alisome of her latest rant that I saw just from visiting it nowhttps://twitter.com/Artists_Ali/status/1570810195185664000
https://twitter.com/Artists_Ali/status/1570812453315018752
https://twitter.com/Artists_Ali/status/1570813425860874242
https://twitter.com/Artists_Ali/status/1570820168787570689
https://twitter.com/Artists_Ali/status/1570821336423108610
https://twitter.com/Artists_Ali/status/1570826049788968963[close]
Funniest to me is that she isn't really that fat by many American standards, but lots of her orbiters really are super/infinityfats. They all just repeat the same stuff day in and day out about how much healthier it is to love your fat body instead of being genocidal towards others. One of their big things is that it's violent hatred to ask a patient their weight and this needs to be outlawed.
https://fluffykittenparty.com/2021/06/01/fategories-understanding-smallfat-fragility-the-fat-spectrum/
:dead
Family friend of mine is a pediatrician and she said she's got a couple 12-15 year old patients who refuse to be weighed during appointments due to that. Both are overweight or obese, both are unhealthy by any non-BMI metric (blood pressure, cholesterol, etc) yet they simply do not believe it and refuse to participate in "systems constructed by fatphobia." It's utterly insane but this is the shit that's destroying brains/thought/etc.
Also fat people creating their own hierarchy to determine who is oppressed the most is really on brand. Everything is becoming intersectional oppression Olympics. We're doomed.
I'd like to hear more about this fat hierarchy :hmm
Whats most stupid about this is the number 1 rule of being fat is you make fun of yourself for it, thereby becoming the funny fat guy :trumps
related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OljCA08Hx8
Post by: benjipwns on September 20, 2022, 12:49:15 AM
I'd like to hear more about this fat hierarchy :hmmCheck the link PD posted, the charts from that get posted all over, basically the more fat you get (which nobody has any control over and is not because of your personal choices) the more oppressed you are and as you move through multiple categories of fat you become more oppressed by Genocidal Thin Culture:
(https://i.imgur.com/0LhHO9o.png)
Just for reference, a women's size 18 is about a men's waist size of 34.
Post by: james on September 20, 2022, 01:21:30 AM
Post by: benjipwns on September 20, 2022, 02:40:31 AM
because the embed cuts off the reply
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Post by: Nintex on September 20, 2022, 03:34:22 AM
:pika
Post by: Transhuman on September 20, 2022, 10:03:55 AM
https://twitter.com/JoannaMang/status/1571862870505451523because the embed cuts off the reply(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdBg8reakAEsWz4?format=jpg&name=900x900)[close]
Deleting tweets should be illegal. What did it say?
Post by: benjipwns on September 20, 2022, 03:33:04 PM
Deleting tweets should be illegal. What did it say?Was just the screenshot in the spoilers.
Post by: benjipwns on September 21, 2022, 03:40:15 PM
:hmm Go on.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on September 21, 2022, 03:42:11 PM
Post by: benjipwns on September 21, 2022, 03:49:48 PM
You can't just drop this hot dance floor segregation story without providing the full article :cry
Quote from: https://kier.substack.com/p/015
Not too long ago, a friend of mine invited me to a party at their home that was for femmes only. My gender expression is fluid, and I’ve gone through periods of time where I am comfortable in makeup and dresses. For the last several years, however, I’ve been rocking button-ups and barber’s cuts. It was awkward to receive an invitation from a dear friend to an event at which I’d be unwelcome.
(I remember one time inviting two lesbians who were not involved in the Queer Scene to a femme picnic in the hopes that they’d make new friends. When I asked them about it afterward (I couldn’t attend due to being a swishy butch at the time), they told me they felt judged and unwelcome. They didn’t get the memo to bring a homemade vegan snack and watched people sneer at the bag of chips they’d brought to share. Although they were dress-wearing lesbians, they were not femmes—their fellow picnickers’ passive aggression made this abundantly clear.)
I decided to ask my party-planning friend what they were trying to accomplish by making their event femmes only. As we talked, it became clear that what my friend truly wanted was a dress party! They didn’t actually care about the genders of their guests. They wanted to dance in a dress with a bunch of other people doing the same—to enjoy the sweet swish of fabric around their legs in good company.
Post by: Nintex on September 21, 2022, 04:57:03 PM
:clap
Post by: benjipwns on September 21, 2022, 07:25:49 PM
https://twitter.com/jarvis_best/status/1572582723138785281
VIOLENT ABLEISM
https://twitter.com/TaylorLorenz/status/1572325009422712833
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Post by: benjipwns on September 21, 2022, 07:53:57 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/eschatolocation/status/1571044607848493057
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Post by: benjipwns on September 21, 2022, 08:11:21 PM
:hesright
Post by: Nintex on September 22, 2022, 05:26:24 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on September 22, 2022, 05:56:13 PM
Post by: Transhuman on September 22, 2022, 06:33:33 PM
Post by: D3RANG3D on September 22, 2022, 06:52:54 PM
Post by: Nintex on September 23, 2022, 08:08:01 AM
:badass
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 23, 2022, 09:44:33 AM
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/Tibbets-wave.jpg)
Great song tbf :elon
Post by: D3RANG3D on September 23, 2022, 04:40:09 PM
Post by: benjipwns on September 23, 2022, 06:39:46 PM
https://twitter.com/ClaudeUlt/status/1552414476695023616
https://twitter.com/ChungusNathan/status/1527053680435937283
Why does this exist: https://www.youtube.com/c/GenerationHope/videos (https://www.youtube.com/c/GenerationHope/videos)
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/Stlck_Man/status/1552695436879749133
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Post by: Uncle on September 23, 2022, 07:10:07 PM
What are these. :lol
https://twitter.com/ClaudeUlt/status/1552414476695023616
https://twitter.com/ChungusNathan/status/1527053680435937283
Why does this exist: https://www.youtube.com/c/GenerationHope/videos (https://www.youtube.com/c/GenerationHope/videos)spoiler (click to show/hide)https://twitter.com/Stlck_Man/status/1552695436879749133[close]
I've heard about these, it's basically like the content mill Elsa sucks Spiderman's toes crap for kids where some weirdo realizes they can get rich gaming the algorithm with millions of accidental/farmed clicks
Post by: benjipwns on September 23, 2022, 10:14:56 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdT8QtFWAAA-_u4?format=jpg&name=small)
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Post by: benjipwns on September 24, 2022, 08:42:16 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FddH4v2aUAEzzye?format=jpg&name=900x900)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FddH4v2agAAOp2p?format=jpg&name=900x900)
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Post by: Nintex on September 25, 2022, 06:00:18 AM
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Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on September 25, 2022, 08:10:24 AM
Post by: benjipwns on September 25, 2022, 09:47:50 PM
Quote from: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/25/us/sundance-jihad-rehab-meg-smaker.html
Meg Smaker felt exhilarated last November. After 16 months filming inside a Saudi rehabilitation center for accused terrorists, she learned that her documentary “Jihad Rehab” was invited to the 2022 Sundance Festival, one of the most prestigious showcases in the world.
Her documentary centered on four former Guantánamo detainees sent to a rehab center in Saudi Arabia who had opened their lives to her, speaking of youthful attraction to Al Qaeda and the Taliban, of torture endured, and of regrets.
Film critics warned that conservatives might bridle at these human portraits, but reviews after the festival’s screening were strong.
“The absence of absolutes is what’s most enriching,” The Guardian stated, adding, “This is a movie for intelligent people looking to have their preconceived notions challenged.” Variety wrote: The film “feels like a miracle and an interrogative act of defiance.”
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Arab and Muslim filmmakers and their white supporters accused Ms. Smaker of Islamophobia and American propaganda. Some suggested her race was disqualifying, a white woman who presumed to tell the story of Arab men.
Sundance leaders reversed themselves and apologized.
Abigail Disney, a grandniece of Walt Disney, had been the executive producer of “Jihad Rehab” and called it “freaking brilliant” in an email to Ms. Smaker. Now she disavowed it.
The film “landed like a truckload of hate,” Ms. Disney wrote in an open letter.
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Many Arab and Muslim filmmakers — who like others in the industry struggle for money and recognition — denounced “Jihad Rehab” as offering an all too familiar take. They say Ms. Smaker is the latest white documentarian to tell the story of Muslims through a lens of the war on terror. These documentary makers, they say, take their white, Western gaze and claim to film victims with empathy.
Assia Boundaoui, a filmmaker, critiqued it for Documentary magazine.
“To see my language and the homelands of folks in my community used as backdrops for white savior tendencies is nauseating,” she wrote. “The talk is all empathy, but the energy is Indiana Jones.”
She called on festivals to allow Muslims to create “films that concern themselves not with war, but with life.”
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“An entirely white team behind a film about Yemeni and South Arabian men,” the filmmaker Violeta Ayala wrote in a tweet.
Ms. Smaker’s film had a Yemeni-American executive producer and a Saudi co-producer.
More than 230 filmmakers signed a letter denouncing the documentary. A majority had not seen it.
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Ms. Smaker said a public relations firm recommended that she apologize. “What was I apologizing for?” she said. “For trusting my audience to make up their own mind?”
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“When I, a practicing Muslim woman, say that this film is problematic,” wrote Jude Chehab, a Lebanese American documentarian, “my voice should be stronger than a white woman saying that it isn’t. Point blank.”
Ms. Disney, the former champion, wrote, “I failed, failed and absolutely failed to understand just how exhausted by and disgusted with the perpetual representation of Muslim men and women as terrorists or former terrorists or potential terrorists the Muslim people are.”
Her apology and that of Sundance shook the industry. The South by Southwest and San Francisco festivals rescinded invitations.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on September 25, 2022, 10:09:06 PM
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More than 230 filmmakers signed a letter denouncing the documentary. A majority had not seen it
This is fucking sad.
A lot of the criticism also reads like those people would just rather ignore the subject matter. It's about real people and real things that happen but some would rather not talk about it.
Post by: benjipwns on September 27, 2022, 05:32:16 PM
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 28, 2022, 11:39:30 AM
It's not surprising that corporations have responded with cynical, half assed diversity content to appeal to these people in the most embarrassing ways. The algorithm sure found a perfect demographic marriage with that Dahmer show btw. Women obsessed with true crime, gay niccas, and black twitter. That's a holy trinity for social media marketing in the streaming era.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on September 28, 2022, 11:51:59 AM
We're definitely at a point where there are entire sociopolitical movements that cannot appreciate/respect art or media that does not include or centralize their personal representation trait. Which is a piss poor way to view anything, especially art. I always think about the Breakfast Club, which isn't diverse at all racially yet is a great film in large part due to how audiences identify with main characters - whose lives and experiences are quite diverse. It never donned on me as a kid watching the film to say "I don't see myself on the screen so I can't relate to this (#breakfastclubsowhite)." I've never read a novel and thought oh wow, I'm offended by the lack of black people. Yet this is how we are conditioning people to think about art and media.
It's really frustrating because a push for diversity does feel justified but it's done in a way where only the race and gender of the character appears to matter anymore. Recently some comic book series was put on hold and the news site reported that it would have been "The first Arab male led show based on a comic book" https://deadline.com/2022/09/grendel-series-dead-netflix-shopped-dark-horse-1235128098/
which just is an absurd amount of qualifiers solely so they can say "Omg this is the first show that does this, progress has finally been made. Ms. Marvel? No that was about female Arab Muslim hero based on a comicbook, completely different thing, our show is the first of its kind."
Also paradoxically, people are basically implying that white guys who whine about how they can't relate to a black character are justified, because apparently skin color is all that matters.
The algorithm sure found a perfect demographic marriage with that Dahmer show btw. Women obsessed with true crime, gay niccas, and black twitter. That's a holy trinity for social media marketing in the streaming era.
Speaking of
https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1574783872956616709
Post by: paprikastaude on September 28, 2022, 12:07:17 PM
We're definitely at a point where there are entire sociopolitical movements that cannot appreciate/respect art or media that does not include or centralize their personal representation trait. Which is a piss poor way to view anything, especially art. I always think about the Breakfast Club, which isn't diverse at all racially yet is a great film in large part due to how audiences identify with main characters - whose lives and experiences are quite diverse. It never donned on me as a kid watching the film to say "I don't see myself on the screen so I can't relate to this (#breakfastclubsowhite)." I've never read a novel and thought oh wow, I'm offended by the lack of black people. Yet this is how we are conditioning people to think about art and media.
It's not surprising that corporations have responded with cynical, half assed diversity content to appeal to these people in the most embarrassing ways. The algorithm sure found a perfect demographic marriage with that Dahmer show btw. Women obsessed with true crime, gay niccas, and black twitter. That's a holy trinity for social media marketing in the streaming era.
Can any slacktivist explain how Squid Game is the most successful TV show of all time? I'm not a homeless South Korean, nor is the majority of the world. How could this show have any possible appeal? :thinking
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 28, 2022, 12:19:48 PM
I always think about the Breakfast Club, which isn't diverse at all racially yet is a great film in large part due to how audiences identify with main characters - whose lives and experiences are quite diverse.
Similarly one of the reasons I think most people love series 4 of the Wire is, that even though they're not black kids living in west baltimore, we all knew someone similar at least one of Michael, Naymond, Dukie and Randy when we was kids.
Post by: BIONIC on September 28, 2022, 12:59:40 PM
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"Omg this is the first show that does this, progress has finally been made. Ms. Marvel? No that was about female Arab Muslim hero based on a comicbook, completely different thing, our show is the first of its kind."
Pakistanis are not Arabs :ufup
Post by: Polident Hive on September 28, 2022, 01:56:35 PM
My other thought is, as a [insert relevant 2022 term for POC, not white, whatever] I can’t deny exploring different and alternative media as a kid. Was it entirely about race? Probably not. But going way back, it’s not a coincidence East Asian culture was popular with black kids, and black culture was popular with Asian American kids. How that plays out these days is can of worms.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 28, 2022, 02:26:08 PM
I get that they're weirdo racists but jeez, why do people care about this stuff. It's obvious what the agenda is ($). If you don't want to see it, don't see it.
Post by: Uncle on September 28, 2022, 04:21:06 PM
Another issue is this cynical, corporate idea that if you simply change an established character from white to black - or male to female - you're advancing the arc of diversity/social progress. In reality it's often just a cynical marketing attempt to attract black/women/etc audiences. Which is fine if we could simply accept it as such. They aren't interested in exploring black stories - unless it's some weird trauma based shit - they just want your money. So Little Mermaid is black. Her mother will be black, and her father is white (well, Javier Bardem). Because of course Disney will never depict a black family, much less a straight black male character, in anything today...
I get that they're weirdo racists but jeez, why do people care about this stuff. It's obvious what the agenda is ($). If you don't want to see it, don't see it.
all the actual original characters tend to be awesome personal stories that make them stand out like miles morales
what was the recent show, sandman? which essentially rolled the dice on all characters being any given race, which led people to say "damn why does this character who suffers so much/acts so evil gotta be black? what are you saying about black people?" when previously they were generally all white so it was perfectly fine for them to suffer/be evil
you swap a character, you risk making a social commentary
now the little mermaid is about a black girl who chooses to completely abandon her culture and people because she wants white man dick so badly
:kobeyuck
Post by: Potato on September 28, 2022, 05:57:05 PM
Post by: benjipwns on September 28, 2022, 08:47:33 PM
It never donned on me as a kid watching the film to say "I don't see myself on the screen so I can't relate to this (#breakfastclubsowhite)." I've never read a novel and thought oh wow, I'm offended by the lack of black people. Yet this is how we are conditioning people to think about art and media.
Another issue is this cynical, corporate idea that if you simply change an established character from white to black - or male to female - you're advancing the arc of diversity/social progress.The latter is just the excuse for doing the former to get five minutes of Twitter attention or outrage clicks on your stupid article.
Post by: benjipwns on September 28, 2022, 11:31:47 PM
https://twitter.com/drjenwolkin/status/1575268749359419393
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https://twitter.com/sulmoney/status/1574509281285738497
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Post by: benjipwns on September 29, 2022, 12:17:39 AM
Post by: benjipwns on September 29, 2022, 12:23:56 AM
Quote from: https://www.feministgiant.com/p/essay-dear-white-women-cheering-iranian
Essay: Dear White Women Cheering Iranian Women:salute
It’s thrilling, isn’t it, watching women far away rise up?
Especially when they are women whose plight was always used to shut you up.
...
This isn’t a “whose flavour of patriarchy is worse” letter. This is a “fuck the patriarchy everywhere” grenade that I gift to you. This is not The Handmaid’s Tale, it’s real life. This is a wake the fuck up because clearly you’ve been drifting, cruising on the delusions that your whiteness will save you from white supremacist patriarchy.
Nothing will.
So successful has white supremacist patriarchy been at convincing you that you’re lucky to live in the U.S. and not Saudi Arabia or Iran, that so many of you did not pay enough attention to the theocracy that white supremacy was building right here, at home.
It was being built by white men who look like your fathers, brothers, husbands, and sons–men who look like Lindsay Graham–not the scary brown men with beards, right?
And it was being built by white women who are your mothers, aunts, and sisters—women like Marsha Blackburn–all too willing to foot-soldier for the patriarchy in return for its crumbs.
White supremacist patriarchy so successfully lulled you into a delusion of “Be grateful you don’t live over there” that you sleep walked your way into the disaster that is now and over here.
Liberal or conservative, white women in the U.S. are more obsessed with Muslim women and whatever you think is oppressing Muslim women than you are at recognizing your own oppressions. You are more obsessed with what you think Brown Muslim men are doing to Brown Muslim women than you are at what your own menfolk are doing to you.
And now here are Brown Muslim women rising up, sparking a revolution, setting alight a tool of their patriarchy, leaving us breathless at their courage, and still you cheer at the women whose plight over there you are grateful not to share, and still your remain comfortable pointing fingers at the patriarchy in Iran and fail to complete the sentence by asking “What about my patriarchy, over here?”
White liberal women want to save Muslim women - preferably over there somewhere - and white conservative women want to feel superior to Muslim women and so refuse to see anything in your beliefs that consigns you to the subservience and submission you think Muslim women must live with.
...
And that’s exactly why white women have not been paying attention. White supremacist patriarchy is their patriarchy. It looks and sounds just like them. It’s much easier to see Brown men and Black men as the danger. That is where white supremacist patriarchy always kept the attention -- always promised to save white women from.
It is way past time for white women in the U.S. who have ever asked “How can I help Muslim women” and “Why do Muslim women submit to misogyny?” to start obsessing instead over their white sisters who benefit from white supremacist patriarchy and who don’t give a flying fuck how it hurts everyone else. I’ve had white women come to my events and ask how they can help Muslim women over there because it’s easier than actually doing something about women over here.
Fascism doesn't happen overnight. Theocracy is not built in a day. And fascist theocrats are obsessed with what’s on our heads and what’s in between our legs.
We are more than what's on our heads and what's in between our legs:
In Iran, women are fighting against theocrats who enforce hijab by burning shit down, including their hijab.
In the U.S., what are women fighting against theocrats who enforce abortion bans doing?
As you watch the glory and power of the feminist revolution against theocrats in Iran, ask yourself where the fuck is your feminist revolution against theocrats in the U.S.
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And what will most Americans do about it?
Will you burn things to the ground? Will you risk your lives as the very Iranian women you are cheering do?
Next time you are tempted to ask how it got so bad for women in Iran, ask yourself how you allowed white, Christian zealots to use democracy to cut it at its knees by destroying the right to abortion–a right which most Americans support. And recognize that the destruction of that right is but the first of many other destructions. Anyone who is not an able-bodied, white cisgender heterosexual man should fear what is to come.
When will you start burning things to the ground? Where is your fucking rage?
Where is your feminist revolution against your theocrats?
Point to your “morality police”and what they have made compulsory and burn it to the ground and join the revolution that women in Iran have ignited against theocracy. Stop pointing over there and point to your theocrats and rise up!
Are revolutions dangerous? Patriarchy and theocracy are more dangerous.
Fuck theocracy everywhere.
Fuck fascism everywhere.
Fuck the patriarchy in every time zone and every universe.
Burn. Shit. Down.
Post by: Nintex on September 29, 2022, 08:30:16 AM
Also feminists
"Put out that fire I feel very unsafe"
Post by: paprikastaude on September 29, 2022, 01:11:41 PM
Another issue is this cynical, corporate idea that if you simply change an established character from white to black - or male to female - you're advancing the arc of diversity/social progress. In reality it's often just a cynical marketing attempt to attract black/women/etc audiences. Which is fine if we could simply accept it as such. They aren't interested in exploring black stories - unless it's some weird trauma based shit - they just want your money. So Little Mermaid is black. Her mother will be black, and her father is white (well, Javier Bardem). Because of course Disney will never depict a black family, much less a straight black male character, in anything today...
I get that they're weirdo racists but jeez, why do people care about this stuff. It's obvious what the agenda is ($). If you don't want to see it, don't see it.
Also, where are the new great artists? All there is, is the idiotic thought that progressive art is a bare ethnicity swap for the same focus-tested Disney trash to get rich with. I'm sure there were more than enough dumb hippies back in the day, but out of the 68 generation you eventually got disruptive artists like Scorcese and Alan Moore. Jordan Peele seems like the only young mainstream movie director who's creatively playing with current problems.
Post by: Polident Hive on September 29, 2022, 03:18:18 PM
Quote from: https://www.feministgiant.com/p/essay-dear-white-women-cheering-iranianEssay: Dear White Women Cheering Iranian Women:salute
What does brown mean anymore.
Post by: BIONIC on September 29, 2022, 03:20:33 PM
Quote from: https://www.feministgiant.com/p/essay-dear-white-women-cheering-iranianEssay: Dear White Women Cheering Iranian Women:salute
What does brown mean anymore.
Ask Nintex :teehee
Post by: HaughtyFrank on September 29, 2022, 04:19:04 PM
Quote from: https://www.feministgiant.com/p/essay-dear-white-women-cheering-iranianEssay: Dear White Women Cheering Iranian Women:salute
What does brown mean anymore.
https://twitter.com/tragicbirdapp/status/1575501790703136773
:idont
Post by: benjipwns on September 29, 2022, 07:14:39 PM
Post by: Potato on September 29, 2022, 09:38:08 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdzKZnmaIAAhSyD?format=jpg&name=900x900)Did she just accuse black people of not having jobs?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 30, 2022, 07:55:11 AM
Post by: Propagandhim on September 30, 2022, 08:06:01 AM
Post by: benjipwns on September 30, 2022, 08:28:44 PM
Quote from: https://www.thegamer.com/splatoon-has-once-again-become-a-home-for-queer-rebellion/
Splatoon is one of the queerest games on the planet. I can’t quite put my finger on why though. Perhaps it’s the liberating attitude it takes when standing against authority, or the willingness to enable modern youth and provide them with a space to express themselves without compromise, or the presence of characters who are coded in ways that can’t be taken in any other way except fruity. Pearl and Marina, here’s looking at you.
There is something LGBT afoot, and there always has been in the series, but Splatoon 3 takes it to a whole new level. A brief walk around the sprawling hub world greets us with all manner of drawings that have players declaring their love for men and women, crying out for trans rights, or just having fun with modern queer trends that are popular elsewhere. It isn’t just that these have infiltrated Splatoon, but those who feel welcomed by them have come to call this game home because it represents something special, an inclusive exuberance that nothing else in Nintendo’s library has ever come close to matching. The Squids are alright.
Our own Lex Luddy recently wrote about how Splatoon 3 has helped her embrace a sense of fashion in reality after dressing up her Inkling, and that visual identity is a big reason why this series has such staying power. I wasn’t out of the closet when the first Splatoon arrived in 2015, and found myself resorting to games to explore my own appearance and the person I hoped to see myself become after starting hormones and a social transition. Obviously I wasn’t going to transform into a weird squid creature, but the clothes and personality was a sufficient way to express myself without fear of bigoted harassment or my own anxiety.
I could don cute skirts, awesome tops, and stylish hats to my heart’s content, and always had the freedom to switch things up to take on new skills but still be assured that I’d look amazing. Everyone else does too, and this acceptance all starts with the character creator itself. While gendered hairstyles and clothing options do exist in this world, none of them are strictly labelled or describe you as a boy or a girl. You are merely a squid, and that identity takes on whatever gender you want it to. It can be changed up whenever too, giving each squid a fluid identity that is never once set in stone. The agent you play as during the campaign goes by gender-neutral pronouns too, further cementing the idea that Splatoon never intends for its player characters to be viewed from a cisgendered perspective. Like much of modern youth, we have moved beyond the need for the labels that older generations sought to burden us with. Not once are we asked to become something we aren’t, and that rules so hard.
Splatoon 3 also sees this place fall even deeper into the apocalypse. Chaos has been welcomed, and this perspective is seen in the overturned monuments and rampant decay found outside the otherwise metropolitan cityscape. These squids exist and operate within the confines of a culture all of their own, a youthful combination of music, fashion, and excess that we’ve seen evolve alongside them over the past three games. They abide by no sense of authority, only existing to hang out with friends and party whenever a Splatfest comes around. It’s liberating, and the appeal this has for queer audiences is clear to see.
The series’ wider lore might point towards where these creatures came from and whether they abide by an actual system of government, but to us they are little more than cool dudes having a good time without any of the societal baggage found in the real world. Squid Kids have grown since the first game too, more resembling Squid Teenagers ready and willing to find themselves. That evolution only better serves the queer theming, and it makes perfect sense for more ambitious styles and divergent identities to emerge as we move forward. What form that takes is up to us, and I choose to view it as a foundation to experiment however I like. I’m only Level 10, but already I feel like my own distinct Squid ready to take on the world.
Current affairs, whether it be the finale of Better Call Saul or the death of Queen Elizabeth, are referenced through in-game drawings that make up much of the game’s personality. All of these are peppered in alongside admissions of queer attraction and fruity displays of affection that players and their fellow squids are never afraid of making clear. This will only continue to grow as the online shooter evolves with future updates, whether it be through providing us with additional nuggets of lore or new clothes that emphasise self-expression. But, even without referencing the real world with memes, Splatoon 3 still shines.
Splatoon 3 feels built for the modern zeitgeist, and those who grew up with the internet and understand how to best engage with it. Turns out that a lot of those people are also queer, and are always looking for places to further representation and unearth subtext, even more so when the base game itself is so fruity already. It’s a place of comfort and discovery, and a breeding ground for youthful rebellion that constantly goes against the grain in spite of its family friendly image. Splatoon is for everyone, and that definition covers all the bases.
Post by: BIONIC on September 30, 2022, 08:35:25 PM
Slickness levels critical :ufup
Post by: Polident Hive on September 30, 2022, 10:19:19 PM
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Post by: D3RANG3D on October 02, 2022, 02:52:44 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 03, 2022, 09:05:47 AM
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It's for the people this genre forgot all these years
:confused
Post by: BIONIC on October 03, 2022, 09:39:28 AM
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 03, 2022, 10:16:27 AM
https://twitter.com/jameelajamil/status/1576734041985777664QuoteIt's for the people this genre forgot all these years
:confused
I thought the show was underperforming? If that's true and its doing well...grats I guess. Maybe the algorithm bubble I'm in doesn't show me jack shit from the show (besides the twerking...).
It's funny, I see more content from angry nerds claiming Disney is on the brink of economic collapse and all these shows are flopping et cetc...but I haven't really seen proof of that either. They say the same about LOTR yet we just got new numbers recently that further prove the show is super popular. There's this weird thing where these losers will review bomb RT and similar sites, then claim "the fans" hate the show while working overtime to prove that no one is watching. But if the show was as bad as the ratings...why are people watching at such a high rate.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 03, 2022, 10:45:13 AM
https://twitter.com/jameelajamil/status/1576734041985777664QuoteIt's for the people this genre forgot all these years
:confused
I thought the show was underperforming? If that's true and its doing well...grats I guess. Maybe the algorithm bubble I'm in doesn't show me jack shit from the show (besides the twerking...).
It's funny, I see more content from angry nerds claiming Disney is on the brink of economic collapse and all these shows are flopping et cetc...but I haven't really seen proof of that either. They say the same about LOTR yet we just got new numbers recently that further prove the show is super popular. There's this weird thing where these losers will review bomb RT and similar sites, then claim "the fans" hate the show while working overtime to prove that no one is watching. But if the show was as bad as the ratings...why are people watching at such a high rate.
Those Nerd channels always try to be the first to scream "Go woke, go broke" so they can validate themselves, ignoring that it often is not the case. Personally I assume that most people don't really care about "woke" content either way, if the movie/show is good enough they'll just watch it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 03, 2022, 11:34:21 AM
Post by: Uncle on October 03, 2022, 11:58:38 AM
It's funny, I see more content from angry nerds claiming Disney is on the brink of economic collapse and all these shows are flopping et cetc...but I haven't really seen proof of that either. They say the same about LOTR yet we just got new numbers recently that further prove the show is super popular. There's this weird thing where these losers will review bomb RT and similar sites, then claim "the fans" hate the show while working overtime to prove that no one is watching. But if the show was as bad as the ratings...why are people watching at such a high rate.
(https://i.imgur.com/5WTF7b4.png)
rise of skywalker such a beloved film that the review bombing couldn't drown out all the positivity :heart
Post by: Nintex on October 03, 2022, 12:21:34 PM
The fans and critics may think that those shows are bad but even they have to admit that most of the streaming services have better shows than what people watch(ed) on cable.
She-Hulk and Rings of Power aren't going up against Top Gun: Maverick, a 4K Remaster of Lawrence of Arabia or Better Call Saul.
They're going up against NCIS, season 30 of the Voice, a funny YouTube cat video compilation with added commentary or the Pawnstars highlights.
So yeah I'm not surprised that people who watch The View at home or watch a show during their lunch break would give a thumbs up to She-Hulk.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 03, 2022, 03:23:38 PM
:doge
Post by: Potato on October 03, 2022, 03:44:55 PM
Post by: Nintex on October 03, 2022, 03:50:31 PM
https://twitter.com/Kurrco/status/1577004459154354177wait until you see what's on the front of those shirts
:doge
https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1577006587939786755 (https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1577006587939786755)
:wut
Post by: Tuckers Law on October 03, 2022, 04:26:29 PM
She-Hulk is fun, Rings of Power is good and getting better every episode. Man-children threatened by a few women in their superhero/fantasy shows are stupid.
You seriously buy into that?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 03, 2022, 05:03:28 PM
She-Hulk is fun, Rings of Power is good and getting better every episode. Man-children threatened by a few women in their superhero/fantasy shows are stupid.
You seriously buy into that?
I do to an extent. Nobody cares about who taught dudes how to do amazing things when they're on the hero's journey. I don't remember anyone caring how Luke was capable of accurately shooting Storm Troopers in a military raid situation, how he knew how to use a grapple, etc. It wouldn't cross our minds to even question it because it's a fantasy story so who cares...and also because we assume a certain level of competency whether earned or not. Seems hard to deny that many of these same dudes cannot accept that for female characters.
If you want to complain about the woman warrior becoming a boring, predictable trope that's one thing. But a lot of this stuff goes way beyond that. I haven't watched the new LOTR but Galadriel literally participates in a battle in the books. She grew up an athlete, was better than the male elves, and her mother called her "Man-Maiden" due to how athletic she was. So why is a thousand year old elven figure of incredible power and intelligence being called a Mary Sue? Why is her military prowess being questioned? Beyond "woman bad, woman woke" arguments.
Post by: Tuckers Law on October 03, 2022, 07:26:53 PM
But if we discount any of that and just assume any men complaining about either are doing so disingenuously, that still leaves criticism from women who are fans. For Galadriel: that she’s not being allowed to retain any feminine strength, and is not being allowed to be a strong character without being written like a gender-swapped man. For She-Hulk: that she’s a man-hating cunt and written completely counter to how she’s portrayed in the comics (I can’t attest to this myself knowing nothing of she-hulk, it’s just what I’ve heard). For both: that the writing is so fucking dire the fear is that it’s poisoning the well for gaining new fans of beloved literary characters.
So yeah, there’s haters online I’m sure. It’s the internet, that’s expected. Seeing people eat into these PR and marketing campaigns that preemptively weaponize hateful dipshits into a defense against potential criticism is a bummer though.
Post by: Potato on October 03, 2022, 07:32:52 PM
Galadriel has done nothing less or more than an elf is capable of in Tolkein's world. I was more pissed off at ninja Legolas than anything Galadriel has done and she is a legendary figure in LotR mythology. She is not just a gender-swapped male character. She is dealing with trauma and hatred and fear. Her people faced an existential threat and now nobody believes her when she says it's coming back.She-Hulk is fun, Rings of Power is good and getting better every episode. Man-children threatened by a few women in their superhero/fantasy shows are stupid.
You seriously buy into that?
I've had my problems with She-Hulk and the general man-hating going on in that show, but hey it's not being written for me at all. I'm still enjoying watching it because it's fun and silly and very non-MCU, which is a massive plus after some of the shit Disney has excreted recently.
Most blokes who hate RoP are just screeching manbabies...yes.
Most blokes who hate She-Hulk are just upset the show isn't for them.
Both sets of people need to get a grip and go watch something else. It's not really that difficult these days.
Post by: Tuckers Law on October 03, 2022, 07:52:25 PM
Looking forward to the next big property that preempts its release by letting us know that all its detractors are misogynists and racists. I’m sure the conversation will be different that time.
Post by: Uncle on October 03, 2022, 08:26:10 PM
12 Angry Men is probably my favorite film of all time, and I can find issues with it. the old man is not a very good actor. the choice to use diegetic rain noise makes it harder to hear in the latter half. if someone said its minor flaws added up to them hating the film overall I wouldn't dismiss them out of hand. criticism should always be welcome, because it's how we grow and improve
and if you say "well I'm not talking about the valid criticism, I'm talking about the extremely populous manbabies etc etc" I'm gonna need valid citation. I've tried listening to some of the podcasts and videos of the kind of people others call manbabies, like MauLer and Critical Drinker, and often found their points reasonable and at least well thought-out if nothing else
there's so much to see online that it's easier to assume that everyone who disagrees with you is being a disingenuous asshole with an agenda than actually taking the time to listen
it hurts to hear something you like being criticized, I know it, but it's ok
they can't hurt the thing and they can't hurt you, they're just ideas
Post by: Polident Hive on October 03, 2022, 08:56:20 PM
Long ago, in a different time, 2015: Mad Max Fury Road came out. Some dorks yelled about Furiosa emasculating Max. They called for a boycott. Nobody cared. The studio didn’t engage. Helps they didn’t need to overcompensate.
Anyway, a TV was on in my vicinity. There’s an ad for an Emmett Till movie. Or more accurately, a movie about his mother and her activism. It’s a fine story. What’s odd is how the ad was a giant content warning. The director speaks to the viewers and says it features no violence against black people. I get that it’s trying to say what it’s not. Even find it admirable to avoid re-enacting the tragedy. At the same time, really fuckin weird that it’s a TV ad.
Post by: james on October 03, 2022, 08:57:42 PM
She hulk
beloved literary characters.
:girlaff :crowdlaff :mueller :tauntaun
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 03, 2022, 09:29:16 PM
Post by: benjipwns on October 03, 2022, 09:41:33 PM
twitter.com/jameelajamil/status/1576734041985777664How can it be "number 1 in the ratings" when there's no streaming ratings because the companies won't release the metrics for independent evaluation? That one attempt at determining the viewer count of Disney+ shows figured that the most popular of them (Loki) only barely got over 2 million. That's worse than the Arrowverse shows do on The CW.
Post by: Uncle on October 03, 2022, 09:51:20 PM
kind of like extrapolating from the Quartering that there must be millions of such surface level agenda dorks trying to tear down media you consume
Post by: Potato on October 03, 2022, 10:32:30 PM
Post by: HardcoreRetro on October 04, 2022, 04:24:40 AM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 04, 2022, 10:09:09 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fd2I98XXgBUKwSF?format=jpg&name=large)
Post by: james on October 04, 2022, 10:10:26 AM
Post by: Potato on October 04, 2022, 04:16:59 PM
I don't think it's easy to say who really started it but I definitely get the impression that there are a lot of people, on both sides, who happily fan the flamesDefinitely, and no doubt the creators of these shows pre-empted the stupid comments as a marketing tool. Still doesn't make either show bad. Just makes the culture warriors from both sides look like dicks.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fd2I98XXgBUKwSF?format=jpg&name=large)
Post by: benjipwns on October 04, 2022, 04:41:15 PM
Definitely, and no doubt the creators of these shows pre-empted the stupid comments as a marketing tool. Still doesn't make either show bad. Just makes the culture warriors from both sides look like dicks.You're thinking of the old ways where what you like is determined by whether or not you like it. Now you have to determine whether or not the right people like or dislike it then adjust your own personal views accordingly.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 04, 2022, 05:10:07 PM
Post by: Tuckers Law on October 04, 2022, 05:41:04 PM
The inherent misogyny and racism implied by these assholes saying women can’t identify with a character unless they’re exactly like them, or that black people cant identify with characters unless they themselves are black, is appalling.
Post by: james on October 04, 2022, 06:11:53 PM
The inherent misogyny and racism implied by these assholes saying women can’t identify with a character unless they’re exactly like them, or that black people cant identify with characters unless they themselves are black, is appalling.
The fuck are you talking about? Nobody identifies with characters. Nobody with an IQ over 50 anyway.
Do you really watch James Bond and think "yes, that man is just like me". If so, youre a fucking idiot. Youre nothing like James fucking Bond. Hes a badass, youre an obese internet forum slug.
"Mommy I dont want to watch the Lion King Im not a lion"
GTFO of here with that shit.
Post by: Tuckers Law on October 04, 2022, 10:13:39 PM
Similar fears and struggles for characters are often examined by people in a personal light, even if they otherwise have little in common. For instance, James, perhaps you are not white or have a sister, or have been in prison yet, but I’ve little doubt you still identify with and appreciate the struggles of remorse shown by Kevin Bacons character in The Woodsman, on account of you both being pedophiles.
Post by: Potato on October 04, 2022, 10:33:30 PM
Post by: james on October 04, 2022, 10:50:07 PM
Obviously people identify with characters and their stories in media, otherwise there wouldn’t ever be a push for gender and race swapping.
The push is for equal opportunity in hiring dumbass. If every lead is a white male, how the fuck is a black woman going to get a job acting?
There is also a push for more original story-telling because there is nothing entertaining about watching the same shit over and over again.
Providing acting/writing/directing opportunities to a wider group of people with different backgrounds and experiences is how you get fresh stories instead of the same recycled little white boy shit you consume with great pleasure. The "woke shit" you're spasaming again is how we got incredible movies by excellent mexican directors like Alfonso Cuaron, Del Toro, and Alejandro González Iñárritu.
Is your favorite media Spongebob because you identify being an ugly ass imbecile with the IQ of a literal ocean sponge?
Post by: BIONIC on October 04, 2022, 11:02:50 PM
Post by: Uncle on October 04, 2022, 11:36:46 PM
po-faced
(https://i.imgur.com/HltMIMN.jpeg)
:ohhh
Post by: benjipwns on October 05, 2022, 01:36:54 AM
Post by: Potato on October 05, 2022, 03:13:26 AM
Post by: james on October 05, 2022, 12:16:59 PM
:fbm
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 05, 2022, 12:25:47 PM
There's a clear marketing benefit from it. I get the sense that certain writers love changing around race/gender/sexuality of characters more than actually writing compelling characters. And of course the anti-woke reactions come immediately within that bubble. The thing I don't get is the corporate appeal. Sure with Disney I get that a black Little Mermaid is going to do great at the box office, white kids and black kids will see it. But what's the financial incentive for thinking about making Bond black? Where's the financial incentive in a black Dr. Who, or rehashing random IPs with a diverse lead (Quantum Leap on NBC for instance). That shit never works.
I think for some it's just about making any splash at all, even if it's negative. Like a few pages ago there was Magic The Gathering announcing a Lord of the Rings collectors card set that for some reason made Aragorn black. As far as I understand it these are purely collectibles with no story, lore or anything attached, so it's not even like anyone finally wanted to tell that story of black Aragorn. It's hard to see a reason why you wouldn't just portray the characters as they're know from the book and movie.
But race swapping the character did get people talking about it, people who probably otherwise would have never wasted a breath on a Lotr and Magic the gathering collaboration, and then I think what they're really hoping for, is that they'll also get a positive backlash to the backlash, where people now feel compelled to support that product or else the racists win.
Post by: james on October 05, 2022, 12:59:03 PM
https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1577687131400683521
Your average 8 year old is aware that Velma is gay as fuck and always has been.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 05, 2022, 02:34:44 PM
Also even if you believe Velma wasn't gay before, I'm quite certain she was never established as straight either
Post by: benjipwns on October 05, 2022, 03:47:47 PM
Worse, he's Canadian.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 05, 2022, 03:59:51 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/svwJ8hA.gif)
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on October 05, 2022, 04:23:35 PM
Post by: Potato on October 05, 2022, 04:27:14 PM
Why is Steven Crowder appropriating Nathan Drake's look?My first thought was, "Why is a grown man wearing a fucking harness...indoors?"
Also even if you believe Velma wasn't gay before, I'm quite certain she was never established as straight either
Post by: james on October 05, 2022, 04:51:55 PM
:pika
Post by: benjipwns on October 05, 2022, 07:02:46 PM
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https://twitter.com/JacquesHoerrida/status/1577320637894377478
https://twitter.com/JacquesHoerrida/status/1577330630253223941
https://twitter.com/JacquesHoerrida/status/1577331953761767425
https://twitter.com/JacquesHoerrida/status/1577330630253223941
https://twitter.com/JacquesHoerrida/status/1577331953761767425
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Post by: Potato on October 05, 2022, 07:54:33 PM
Post by: benjipwns on October 05, 2022, 11:19:27 PM
Quote from: https://www.bangordailynews.com/2022/09/29/news/portland/usm-professor-two-sexes/
Nearly two dozen graduate students at the University of Southern Maine are demanding their education professor be replaced after the professor allegedly said only two biological sexes exist.:american :american :american :american
The students said professor Christy Hammer’s remarks were inaccurate and transphobic.
After all but one student walked out of Hammer’s class on Sept. 14 in protest, they demanded a facilitated restorative justice meeting between the 22 students and their professor.
They got it, but, according to students, Hammer maintained her position saying non-binary biological sex designations are merely variations on male and female. Now they want Hammer gone.
...
“I want her to do some diversity training at least — or just retire,” said student Elizabeth Leibiger, who plans to become a high school English teacher.
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Leibiger, who is non-binary, was absent from class that week but learned about the incident from classmates. When Leibiger arrived for the next class, on Sept. 14, they immediately brought up the discussion again.
“I asked [Hammer] how many sexes there were,” Leibiger said. “She said, ‘Two.’ I felt under personal attack.”
Leibiger then gathered their things and walked out of class because they no longer felt respected.
“I let her know I didn’t think she was qualified to teach a class about positive learning environments,” Leibiger said. “It’s the ultimate irony.”
After leaving class, Leibiger stopped in Bailey Hall’s lobby where all but one of their classmates joined them after the group also walked out of Hammer’s class.
The students then drafted a letter to the school of Education and Human Development, asking for a facilitated restorative justice meeting with their professor and the single student who agreed with her.
“We thought she was just speaking from a place of ignorance, not hate,” Leibiger said.
The meeting took place Wednesday, and the sole student who had disagreed reportedly apologized to classmates. But Hammer maintained her position on the binary nature of sex.
“I went in very optimistic, but at the end of the three hour session it felt like we weren’t listened to,” said Lombardi, who plans to teach high school science.
Lombardi said he wasn’t sure if he and his classmates would show up to the next scheduled class on Oct. 5 if university administrators didn’t agree to replace Hammer. But he’s hoping it will happen.
“Knowing in my heart, as a teacher, that I always want to have my ears open to what my students are saying, and then not have that reciprocated — it was very frustrating,” Lombardi said.
Post by: benjipwns on October 05, 2022, 11:57:51 PM
:hmm
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:hmm
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Post by: Nintex on October 06, 2022, 06:55:11 PM
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:wut
Post by: D3RANG3D on October 06, 2022, 07:40:22 PM
Post by: benjipwns on October 07, 2022, 02:03:07 PM
Post by: benjipwns on October 07, 2022, 02:03:47 PM
Post by: Nintex on October 07, 2022, 02:37:11 PM
https://twitter.com/rubenbrekelmans/status/1578296312646184960 (https://twitter.com/rubenbrekelmans/status/1578296312646184960)
Post by: Nintex on October 08, 2022, 06:03:15 AM
:yeshrug
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 08, 2022, 07:36:46 AM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 08, 2022, 12:04:28 PM
https://twitter.com/kanyestreams1/status/1578593887945658369
https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/1578620714000605184
Post by: Nintex on October 08, 2022, 12:52:22 PM
https://twitter.com/FreeBeacon/status/1578182761361252352 (https://twitter.com/FreeBeacon/status/1578182761361252352)
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 08, 2022, 01:00:42 PM
Post by: Nintex on October 08, 2022, 01:05:15 PM
https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1578175559603212288 (https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1578175559603212288)
Post by: benjipwns on October 08, 2022, 02:32:23 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 08, 2022, 02:41:45 PM
Post by: benjipwns on October 08, 2022, 08:50:03 PM
At first, I was against it but then she said "come in the jacuzzi, gerrymander this coochie" and now :jeb
Post by: benjipwns on October 08, 2022, 09:09:17 PM
:yeshrug
Post by: BIONIC on October 08, 2022, 09:12:01 PM
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 09, 2022, 05:22:32 PM
Post by: Nintex on October 09, 2022, 05:39:19 PM
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 09, 2022, 06:59:12 PM
There's certainly something to be said of much of the reactionary right's most popular bits (Gamergate, woke Disney, woke comics, etc) being about media for children. Not to pull a "both sides" card but even expanding to the left, there is a similar obsession with media for children. Superhero movies, fantasy prequels, videogame characters. Within the last week we've had an introduction of Happy Meals for adults at McDonalds, and grown men/women on the internet complaining about a Super Mario movie trailer. Plus grown men and women arguing over the merits of a lesbian Velma and black Shaggy.
Not to mention the weird fact that self described alpha men spend so much time focused entirely on these frivolous things and get visibly upset when Adult Things are added to their favorite kid media shit.
Post by: Uncle on October 09, 2022, 07:36:59 PM
but you can also argue that tons of effort is going into these products to NOT make them the good old days, women and minorities aren't allowed to not kick ass, much broader selection of cultures and sexualities on display, themes more in line with liberal values
but at the end of the day they're about making tons of money from people who stare slack-jawed at the pretty lights, i.e. conservatism
Post by: Polident Hive on October 09, 2022, 08:42:12 PM
I don’t blame media. Not exactly. Think it’s social networks supporting these mentalities. Nobody gets an audience on social networks by being rational. If they were, they step out once, get a buzz from all the attention, and adjust to feed that hit. That’s before talking about the insidious way studios bet on all this. It’s all a cycle.
About conservatism, divorced from politics. Nerdsfolk have lost the plot years ago by making this all political. Same people mad about the Transformers movies, Superman, Devil May Cry, et al. being different from their childhood, lacking any self awareness or introspection, called others mad about Ghostbusters or whatever, sexist and racist. That shit led to the mess going on now. Conflating two different things, you drove them together, which is the social network problem again. Republicans ranting about banal shit like a Step by Step reboot with a black Frank Lambert, it’s a consequence of blending those ideas.
There’s absolutely an element of racism and sexism involved. Just that it wasn’t the primary motivation, until it was. Two examples. The Rocky reboot-of-sorts Creed came out in 2015. Nobody complained about Michael B Jordan taking over the franchise. Successful in every respect. Couple years back, a reboot of Buffy with a black lead was planned. Guess which people were mad about that one.
Post by: Potato on October 09, 2022, 09:46:00 PM
Nothing more alpha than a poorly framed vlog and a squeaky Australian accent :lolOr a fat fuck in a poorly fitting shirt.
Edit: Isn't the whole concept of an "alpha male" is that you are so above everyone else in the pecking order that it's impossible to be persecuted?
What a fucking tool...
Post by: benjipwns on October 09, 2022, 11:29:36 PM
Alan Moore is a GOAT misanthrope but he’s hit on something here. Any nuance gets flattened to fit back into these simple mindsets.Alan knows where it leads because he's the GOAT misanthrope. His argument against "deconstruction" in comics (ala Watchmen) was that nobody would do the necessary reconstruction after the fact (ala Supreme) and it would lead to an amoral mess where everyone missed the point. (As a result, the modern comic writer is almost too obsessed with reconstruction.)
Being a comics fan and so having seen how this played out this already thirty years ago in comics I can't help but notice the same "social justice" deconstruction in politics and media is leading to the same place. Constant tearing down of everything, never rebuilding after. Since everything is now racist/transphobic/whatever there is no "solution" but the endless cycle of pointing these things out (even if they must be inferred from nothing) with a standard lament that there can't be a solution until the utopia begins.
My critique of the gender identity nonsense is similar, we all deconstructed gender as a social construct (a fine goal), with nothing left to deconstruct there the people coming to it now are either being reactionary and seeking to impose their personal construct of how they want their personal gender based on outdated social constructs to be perceived (to shorthand for having a personality) on everyone or moving on to try and deconstruct the related idea of sex. Ironically, much like with how it happened in comics, I suspect the masses actually are fine with the original deconstruction conceptually and have actually accepted its tenets more regularly than the perpetually deconstructionist "radicals" assume.
edit: I blame Foucault partially, not because of anything he actually did, but because he's taught and accepted into the canon in a way that nobody ever seems to realize that once he got to the answers he wanted (power is everything so any use of power for good is justified, men are naturally perverts so everything should be focused towards pleasuring men sexually, etc.) he stopped deconstructing and declared truth and reality to be found.
Post by: benjipwns on October 10, 2022, 12:11:20 AM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 10, 2022, 10:53:23 AM
https://twitter.com/gvaughnjoy/status/1578724399884427264
There's certainly something to be said of much of the reactionary right's most popular bits (Gamergate, woke Disney, woke comics, etc) being about media for children. Not to pull a "both sides" card but even expanding to the left, there is a similar obsession with media for children. Superhero movies, fantasy prequels, videogame characters. Within the last week we've had an introduction of Happy Meals for adults at McDonalds, and grown men/women on the internet complaining about a Super Mario movie trailer. Plus grown men and women arguing over the merits of a lesbian Velma and black Shaggy.
Not to mention the weird fact that self described alpha men spend so much time focused entirely on these frivolous things and get visibly upset when Adult Things are added to their favorite kid media shit.
South Park had a similar idea with their "Member Berries" storyline. There is kind of an obsession over nostalgic things being revived or repackaged that has been growing over the last decade and it's this battleground between the left wanting to change these things to become modern, and to correct the wrongs of the past (though if a Black Ariel can really "undo" a racist legacy is kind of questionable to me https://www.upworthy.com/disney-black-ariel-representation) and the right who wants to keep the stuff from their childhood just as they were because they don't like the way the world is changing.
I also wonder if those people kind of believe that media is shaping our world and not the other way around, and that's why they're fighting so hard over every little thing
Post by: james on October 10, 2022, 11:27:36 AM
Motherfuckers think Scooby Doo, which copy and pasted the script 100 times is good writing.
The gang arrives at spooky house. Spooky ghost appears. Gang runs around, falls through trap doors, extended scene of them running with the background repeating 12 times. At the end they discover that it was the groundskeeper Old Man Willy, who was behind it all along.
Their minds are so tiny they didnt pick up on every episode being the same.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 10, 2022, 12:16:58 PM
My favorite was a comment about how the new Scooby Doo will have bad writing.
Motherfuckers think Scooby Doo, which copy and pasted the script 100 times is good writing.
The gang arrives at spooky house. Spooky ghost appears. Gang runs around, falls through trap doors, extended scene of them running with the background repeating 12 times. At the end they discover that it was the groundskeeper Old Man Willy, who was behind it all along.
Their minds are so tiny they didnt pick up on every episode being the same.
Makes sense when you realize the only thing in their pitch was lesbian Velma, black Shaggy. That's it, that's all that matters. Because reviving IPs solely by changing genders or sexuality is the marketing goal. That show got so much free publicity this weekend, vs the crickets you'd hear for a standard Scooby remake with some adult themes but the same races/sexuality. This is why I don't get being mad about it, beyond the laziness. But even being mad about that is weird and goes back to the "this is for children, you idiot" point I made earlier.
Post by: Uncle on October 10, 2022, 12:23:05 PM
Post by: Uncle on October 10, 2022, 12:24:14 PM
But even being mad about that is weird and goes back to the "this is for children, you idiot" point I made earlier.
we should care even more deeply if it's being made for children and will leave an indelible mark on impressionable young minds and normalize it or something
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on October 10, 2022, 12:30:10 PM
pitbull scooby or we riot
ok, colin.
Post by: james on October 10, 2022, 12:34:44 PM
My favorite was a comment about how the new Scooby Doo will have bad writing.
Motherfuckers think Scooby Doo, which copy and pasted the script 100 times is good writing.
The gang arrives at spooky house. Spooky ghost appears. Gang runs around, falls through trap doors, extended scene of them running with the background repeating 12 times. At the end they discover that it was the groundskeeper Old Man Willy, who was behind it all along.
Their minds are so tiny they didnt pick up on every episode being the same.
Makes sense when you realize the only thing in their pitch was lesbian Velma, black Shaggy. That's it, that's all that matters. Because reviving IPs solely by changing genders or sexuality is the marketing goal. That show got so much free publicity this weekend, vs the crickets you'd hear for a standard Scooby remake with some adult themes but the same races/sexuality. This is why I don't get being mad about it, beyond the laziness. But even being mad about that is weird and goes back to the "this is for children, you idiot" point I made earlier.
The thing is, the 39 other scooby doo revivals didnt do anything special, or when they did, they amde things worse (ex, scrappy doo)
At least an Indian Velma + Black Shaggy opens up story lines where the cops accuse them of being the criminals and they most certainly dont get free run of the abandoned power plant
But yeah, end of the day, if youre a 20+ man complaining about a childrens TV show you need to be in jail
we should care even more deeply if it's being made for children and will leave an indelible mark on impressionable young minds and normalize it or something
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtNXg4XF6aY
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why can I only find the italian dub of this scene on youtube? Cancel culture?
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 10, 2022, 12:38:34 PM
But even being mad about that is weird and goes back to the "this is for children, you idiot" point I made earlier.
we should care even more deeply if it's being made for children and will leave an indelible mark on impressionable young minds and normalize it or something
I'm not sure what impact or harm lesbian Velma and black Shaggy have on kids. I'm gonna say zero. I haven't read much on this beyond the swaps so I'm not sure if this is supposed to be for adults (lol) but I assume not right.
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on October 10, 2022, 12:42:17 PM
pitbull scooby or we riot
Rissa Rorlride
:pitbull
Post by: james on October 10, 2022, 12:44:51 PM
But even being mad about that is weird and goes back to the "this is for children, you idiot" point I made earlier.
we should care even more deeply if it's being made for children and will leave an indelible mark on impressionable young minds and normalize it or something
I'm not sure what impact or harm lesbian Velma and black Shaggy have on kids. I'm gonna say zero. I haven't read much on this beyond the swaps so I'm not sure if this is supposed to be for adults (lol) but I assume not right.
Its supposed to be an R rated show, but its airing on HBO Max not Cartoon Network
Its no different than having a kid-focused Batman cartoon and then crap like the Joker
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 10, 2022, 01:15:14 PM
But even being mad about that is weird and goes back to the "this is for children, you idiot" point I made earlier.
we should care even more deeply if it's being made for children and will leave an indelible mark on impressionable young minds and normalize it or something
I'm not sure what impact or harm lesbian Velma and black Shaggy have on kids. I'm gonna say zero. I haven't read much on this beyond the swaps so I'm not sure if this is supposed to be for adults (lol) but I assume not right.
Its supposed to be an R rated show, but its airing on HBO Max not Cartoon Network
Its no different than having a kid-focused Batman cartoon and then crap like the Joker
Ohhh I see.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on October 10, 2022, 01:18:23 PM
But even being mad about that is weird and goes back to the "this is for children, you idiot" point I made earlier.
we should care even more deeply if it's being made for children and will leave an indelible mark on impressionable young minds and normalize it or something
I'm not sure what impact or harm lesbian Velma and black Shaggy have on kids. I'm gonna say zero. I haven't read much on this beyond the swaps so I'm not sure if this is supposed to be for adults (lol) but I assume not right.
Its supposed to be an R rated show, but its airing on HBO Max not Cartoon Network
Its no different than having a kid-focused Batman cartoon and then crap like the Joker
:thinking
Post by: james on October 10, 2022, 01:20:27 PM
But even being mad about that is weird and goes back to the "this is for children, you idiot" point I made earlier.
we should care even more deeply if it's being made for children and will leave an indelible mark on impressionable young minds and normalize it or something
I'm not sure what impact or harm lesbian Velma and black Shaggy have on kids. I'm gonna say zero. I haven't read much on this beyond the swaps so I'm not sure if this is supposed to be for adults (lol) but I assume not right.
Its supposed to be an R rated show, but its airing on HBO Max not Cartoon Network
Its no different than having a kid-focused Batman cartoon and then crap like the Joker
:thinking
If you are a parent and you let your child watch the Joker you should go to jail. Its borderline child abuse to let someone with a developing mind watch something so boring.
Post by: Nintex on October 10, 2022, 01:20:52 PM
Tucker Carlson doesn't honestly believe that tanning your balls make you more manly but that's where the money is.
Everyone knows that wind mills, burning trees and most cheap solar panels fucking suck as an energy source but that's where the money is.
The guys coming in now like Nick Adams are too late. Trump, BLM, Peterson, Obama etc. got the best catch because they figured there was money in this way before anyone else did. :money
You see it with the shows now too. The first 'woke' shows were a big hit. Now they're getting cancelled left and right.
Post by: james on October 10, 2022, 01:45:03 PM
Post by: Nintex on October 10, 2022, 01:53:46 PM
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/05/02/meghans-netflix-cancellation-shows-woke-streaming-bubble-has/ (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/05/02/meghans-netflix-cancellation-shows-woke-streaming-bubble-has/)
https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/netflix-culture-memo-update-censorship-spending-1235264904/ (https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/netflix-culture-memo-update-censorship-spending-1235264904/)
https://nofilmschool.com/lack-of-diversity-at-hbo (https://nofilmschool.com/lack-of-diversity-at-hbo)
etc. etc.
Post by: james on October 10, 2022, 02:04:39 PM
Please provide a regression model showing that increased percentage of woke content correlated with an increased likelihood of cancellation if you insist on making that claim.
Here is a small sample of recently cancelled shows to help in your model:
Star Trek: Picard
Dan Brown’s The Lost Symbol
I Know What You Did Last Summer
American Rust
Flatbush Misdemeanors
Snowpiercer
Locke & Key
Cooking With Paris
The Endgame
Ordinary Joe
Dollface
Motherland: Fort Salem
Bridge and Tunnel
Dynasty
4400
Good Sam
Magnum P.I
How We Roll
Beyoond the Edge
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 10, 2022, 02:06:31 PM
Post by: Nintex on October 10, 2022, 02:12:24 PM
Wow a random ass show was cancelled that never happens.I'm not doing your college paper for you. :trumps
Please provide a regression model showing that increased percentage of woke content correlated with an increased likelihood of cancellation if you insist on making that claim.
Here is a small sample of recently cancelled shows to help in your model:
Star Trek: Picard
Dan Brown’s The Lost Symbol
I Know What You Did Last Summer
American Rust
Flatbush Misdemeanors
Snowpiercer
Locke & Key
Cooking With Paris
The Endgame
Ordinary Joe
Dollface
Motherland: Fort Salem
Bridge and Tunnel
Dynasty
4400
Good Sam
Magnum P.I
How We Roll
Beyoond the Edge
Remember you are the finance chair, the numbers guy. I just show up to entertain the crowd. :trumps
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 10, 2022, 02:18:29 PM
To me it seems like most people fighting the culture war don't even know why they are fighting it anymore except for the grifthttps://youtu.be/jikHPezhfOg
Tucker Carlson doesn't honestly believe that tanning your balls make you more manly but that's where the money is.
Everyone knows that wind mills, burning trees and most cheap solar panels fucking suck as an energy source but that's where the money is.
The guys coming in now like Nick Adams are too late. Trump, BLM, Peterson, Obama etc. got the best catch because they figured there was money in this way before anyone else did. :money
You see it with the shows now too. The first 'woke' shows were a big hit. Now they're getting cancelled left and right.
I'd love to be in a writing room and push back on some of it just to see the reactions. Because a lot of this is coming from white creatives and frankly I don't think it is benefitting black people because black stories aren't being told. Ariel being black has zero impact on the story.
It's just lazy. If we're not getting some weird black trauma shit it's a "remember when you were slaves" movie (Will Smith's Emancipation, in theaters soon) or "remember when you didn't have civil rights" movie (Till, in hteaters soon) movie. Mix in some random race swaps in established IPs and you got a whole lot of bullshit.
If there was ever a time for a Scary Movie-type spoof on this shit it would be now.
Post by: james on October 10, 2022, 03:13:27 PM
:girlaff :crowdlaff
Post by: Nintex on October 10, 2022, 03:16:31 PM
https://twitter.com/litcapital/status/1579516346542743552 (https://twitter.com/litcapital/status/1579516346542743552)
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on October 10, 2022, 03:24:51 PM
But even being mad about that is weird and goes back to the "this is for children, you idiot" point I made earlier.
we should care even more deeply if it's being made for children and will leave an indelible mark on impressionable young minds and normalize it or something
I'm not sure what impact or harm lesbian Velma and black Shaggy have on kids. I'm gonna say zero. I haven't read much on this beyond the swaps so I'm not sure if this is supposed to be for adults (lol) but I assume not right.
Its supposed to be an R rated show, but its airing on HBO Max not Cartoon Network
Its no different than having a kid-focused Batman cartoon and then crap like the Joker
:thinking
If you are a parent and you let your child watch the Joker you should go to jail. Its borderline child abuse to let someone with a developing mind watch something so boring.
I hope you don't have kids then.
Post by: james on October 10, 2022, 03:32:57 PM
:fbm
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 10, 2022, 03:43:16 PM
Theyre cancelling the Los Angeles City Council President
:fbm
For *looks up* being racist as fuck.
Post by: Nintex on October 10, 2022, 04:40:21 PM
:yeshrug
Post by: Uncle on October 10, 2022, 04:46:17 PM
Nintex please provide a sourced link of woke shows being cancelled left and right and a soruced link of odler woke shows that werent.
I do feel like to some extent this is something that can be intuited without needing to write a term paper
CW's DC is in tatters, it started out strong and designed for general audiences and then became lesbian batwoman and queer black batwoman which rapidly face planted along with the rest of their superhero shows
I'm not saying representation is bad, just that it was incredibly obvious pandering to an audience they thought was there but then didn't show up
this during a time when superheroes should be doing better than ever, people can't get enough of em
Post by: Uncle on October 10, 2022, 05:07:03 PM
which is, ironically, the exact sort of thing the penguin would do:
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(https://i.imgur.com/fVqm6R2.png)
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the show was incredible and it's a travesty we lost it
:stahp
Post by: james on October 10, 2022, 05:21:00 PM
I do feel like to some extent this is something that can be intuited without needing to write a term paper
CW's DC is in tatters
The CW in general is in tatters. They cancelled everything and sold themselves to a shit company.
Presumably Dynasty wasnt woke and that got axed, as did the 4400
Post by: benjipwns on October 10, 2022, 06:03:29 PM
At least an Indian Velma + Black Shaggy opens up story lines where the cops accuse them of being the criminals and they most certainly dont get free run of the abandoned power plantHonestly, there's a whole lot of due process questions raised by Scooby-Doo.
Post by: benjipwns on October 10, 2022, 06:14:50 PM
"Like, I don't know, Scoobs. Let's get out of here!"
Post by: Polident Hive on October 10, 2022, 06:52:59 PM
Post by: james on October 10, 2022, 07:07:03 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 10, 2022, 07:15:38 PM
A tell of how parody and reality are indistinguishable, wasn’t there a story about changing scoob’s special in a smash bros game from phoning the police to something else?
It's Velma in Multiverse and yes they really did that
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If Velma collected enough evidence while fighting an opponent, she could hold up a wanted poster, point in her opponent’s direction, and a police car would come and whisk away her foe.
...
Now, the game has changed: Velma has been stripped of her police-calling powers. Instead, the Mystery Squad responds in their van and takes away Velma’s adversaries
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/09/12/velma-multiversus-police/
Apparently vigilante justice is preferable?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 10, 2022, 07:19:17 PM
Post by: james on October 10, 2022, 07:27:01 PM
:rejoice
Post by: Polident Hive on October 10, 2022, 07:52:14 PM
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"It is true that I am fat, but one day I will be thin, and he will still be the director of 'The Brown Bunny.'"
"I had a colonoscopy once, and they let me watch it on TV. It was more entertaining than 'The Brown Bunny.'"
Post by: benjipwns on October 10, 2022, 08:17:07 PM
https://twitter.com/David_Leavitt/status/1579589783206400001
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/David_Leavitt/status/1579584466867347456
https://twitter.com/David_Leavitt/status/1579588432086847489
https://twitter.com/David_Leavitt/status/1579589942766104577
https://twitter.com/David_Leavitt/status/1579593293780094976
https://twitter.com/David_Leavitt/status/1579588432086847489
https://twitter.com/David_Leavitt/status/1579589942766104577
https://twitter.com/David_Leavitt/status/1579593293780094976
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Post by: Uncle on October 10, 2022, 08:30:48 PM
Post by: james on October 10, 2022, 08:30:51 PM
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Award-Winning Multimedia Journalist.
I cant tell if parody account
Post by: benjipwns on October 10, 2022, 08:34:14 PM
He's the guy who tried to get that Target employee fired for refusing to sell him a mismarked toothbrush.QuoteAward-Winning Multimedia Journalist.
I cant tell if parody account
edit:
https://twitter.com/David_Leavitt/status/1218263908386996227
https://twitter.com/David_Leavitt/status/1218281250676408328
https://twitter.com/David_Leavitt/status/1218282356760621057
Post by: james on October 10, 2022, 09:59:06 PM
Post by: benjipwns on October 10, 2022, 10:10:08 PM
https://twitter.com/David_Leavitt/status/1572632908115886080
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/David_Leavitt/status/1574062434507161600
https://twitter.com/David_Leavitt/status/1575872287403671553
https://twitter.com/David_Leavitt/status/1577384658563653633
https://twitter.com/David_Leavitt/status/1575872287403671553
https://twitter.com/David_Leavitt/status/1577384658563653633
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Post by: james on October 10, 2022, 10:10:58 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2022/10/10/kanye-west-antisemitic-twitter-instagram
Than God we have Elon Musk to fix all global problems
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1579627776231247874
Post by: james on October 11, 2022, 10:08:17 AM
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How a New Anti-Woke Bank Stumbled
GloriFi CEO Toby Neugebauer won over A-list investors to build a bank for people who consider Wall Street too liberal. Within months it was nearly bankrupt.
An A-list group of financial backers including Ken Griffin and Peter Thiel gave Toby Neugebauer tens of millions of dollars to build a new kind of bank—one aimed at people who see Wall Street as too liberal.
The potential customer base was huge, Mr. Neugebauer and his business partner, former Mike Pence chief of staff Nick Ayers, told the investors. Plumbers, electricians and police officers, the pitch went, are fed up with big banks that don’t share their values.
The startup, called GloriFi, initially aimed to launch with bank accounts, credit cards, mortgages and insurance, while touting what it called pro-America values such as capitalism, family, law enforcement and the freedom to “celebrate your love of God and country.”
Within months, the investors’ money was nearly gone, and GloriFi was on the verge of bankruptcy. It missed launch dates, blaming faulty technology and failures by vendors, and laid off dozens of employees. It stumbled with products; for instance, a plan to make a credit card out of the same material used for shell casings failed when the company realized the material could interfere with security chips and potentially be too thick for payment terminals, according to people familiar with the matter.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/glorifi-how-new-anti-woke-bank-stumbled-11665174704
:tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 11, 2022, 12:32:22 PM
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a plan to make a credit card out of the same material used for shell casings failed when the company realized the material could interfere with security chips and potentially be too thick for payment terminals, according to people familiar with the matter.:dead
Post by: james on October 11, 2022, 12:36:44 PM
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The mission appealed to Mr. Thiel’s Founders Fund, which focuses on investing in transformational companies such as SpaceX. Other investors included Mr. Griffin, the founder and chief executive of hedge fund Citadel; Joe Lonsdale, co-founder of data-mining company Palantir Technologies Inc.; former Georgia Republican Sen. Kelly Loeffler; and Atlanta healthcare entrepreneur Rick Jackson. GloriFi raised about $50 million.
...
Mr. Neugebauer’s 16,000-square-foot Dallas home, modeled after the White House, became the company’s initial headquarters. Desks dotted the property’s palatial common areas. Employees who didn’t live in Dallas would often stay in guest bedrooms, where they could sometimes hear Mr. Neugebauer pacing the halls during his 17-hour workdays, according to former employees.
Vendors told GloriFi they required security protocols and couldn’t send consumers’ sensitive financial information to a company based in someone’s home, people familiar with the matter said
:dead
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Some employees said they found the experience of building a company from scratch thrilling. Mr. Neugebauer, these employees said, was a hard-charging, charismatic founder, not unlike the ones behind the startups that dominate today’s tech world. “He’s got this vision…It’s almost like drinking really good Kool-Aid,” Manny Rios, then head of GloriFi’s insurance operations, said in an internal video filmed in April. “I count Toby as Steve Jobs 2.0.”
:dead
:dead
:dead
:dead
Post by: james on October 11, 2022, 12:41:13 PM
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After appearing to leave the call, the senior manager later returned on camera “in a state of undress, on a bed with a companion who was similarly in a state of undress,” the lawsuit alleged. The senior manager isn’t named in the suit.
:doge
Post by: Nintex on October 11, 2022, 01:13:37 PM
He invested 100k in the founder of Figma which is now sold to Adobe for $20 billion.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/qai/2022/09/20/paypal-mafia-lands-another-hit-with-adobes-20-billion-figma-acquisition/?sh=22753897b3dd (https://www.forbes.com/sites/qai/2022/09/20/paypal-mafia-lands-another-hit-with-adobes-20-billion-figma-acquisition/?sh=22753897b3dd)
Some bets work out, some don't. Overall he's been one of the most succesful Silicon Valley investors.
Post by: Uncle on October 11, 2022, 01:53:28 PM
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on October 11, 2022, 01:55:01 PM
Post by: D3RANG3D on October 11, 2022, 02:47:57 PM
Post by: james on October 11, 2022, 04:02:17 PM
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Around this time, one of GloriFi’s investors, Vivek Ramaswamy, was working to launch his own financial-services firm. Strive Asset Management would offer investors an alternative to firms such as BlackRock Inc., which has pushed companies to improve diversity and cut their climate emissions, among other changes. Strive, instead, would push companies to focus on making money, not taking stands on social or political issues.
Mr. Neugebauer said he was furious and was convinced that Mr. Ramaswamy, who wrote the book “Woke, Inc.,” had stolen his idea. Mr. Neugebauer said he had even invested in Strive, thinking it was a conservative beer startup.
:dead
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 11, 2022, 07:25:51 PM
Post by: Polident Hive on October 11, 2022, 09:54:53 PM
Post by: Potato on October 11, 2022, 11:01:17 PM
Once again a TV showing CNN was on in my eye line. Initially there’s an interview with Biden. Next time I look at it, there’s The Rock with a big ass chyron “THE ANTI-IMPERIALISM OF BLACK ADAM.” Before leaving the room, I see the chyron now reads “The Rock aiming for the White House?” What’s up.CNN is just Fox News for the distinguished mentally-challenged fellows (no, not those distinguished mentally-challenged fellows, the other distinguished mentally-challenged fellows on the left).
Post by: benjipwns on October 11, 2022, 11:23:43 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 12, 2022, 10:25:12 AM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 12, 2022, 11:06:35 AM
The prevalence of Latinx sure is funny. It seems that every time it's used there's a large amount of people who are upset by it, meanwhile I have never seen outrage when a company used Latino or Latina. So what even is the gain for a company like Disney to use it in the first place? And now through they're backtracking they're actually in the uncomfortable spot of having to essentially denounce Latinx
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 12, 2022, 11:10:37 AM
:yeshrug
I also find it weird that 90% of all the "alpha male" content comes from single men with no children. If you aren't breeding you aren't a fucking alpha, in any sense of the word. These dudes are not fucking women, why should you listen to them. To make matters even worse a large percentage of them are living like manbabies, consumed entirely by children's media and nerd shit. Look at this:
https://youtu.be/YbhwPwXKRf8
If I was a woman, walked into a guy's room and saw all that shit I'd either kill myself or run away. Either way the sheer disgust and shame would simply be too much. I don't want to hear about masculinity or feminism from someone like this...yet this is a big portion of the audience.
Post by: HardcoreRetro on October 12, 2022, 11:12:01 AM
5 second google search by the way.
Post by: james on October 12, 2022, 11:13:33 AM
White people: Lets appropriate latino/latina it sounds so cute!
Latins: Ok sure whatever you want, did you see Bad Bunny at the Latin Grammys last night
White people: wait your language is sexist you brown scum
Latins: The sun is male the moon is female deal with it Im going to Latin night at the club
White people: We are going to fix your language because we're the best, WE PROCLAIM LATINX which is the one and only solution
Latins: Wait thats racist im going to get some latin food at the corner spot to recover from this shit
White people: No its not Latinx is the only solution
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 12, 2022, 11:15:12 AM
Gary Buechler is known for Nerdrotic (2016), Friday Night Tights (2018) and Sports Wars (2018). He has been married to Melissa Wagner since October 31, 2003. They have one child.What better example of equity than this. A woman dumb enough to let this guy cum in her.
5 second google search by the way.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 12, 2022, 12:00:02 PM
Post by: james on October 12, 2022, 12:03:51 PM
The funny thing about Latinx and latinx people not liking it very much, is that its being pushed by a group of people who should know a thing or two about being called things they don't want to be called :elon
filler post
Post by: BIONIC on October 12, 2022, 12:12:45 PM
The funny thing about Latinx and latinx people not liking it very much, is that its being pushed by a group of people who should know a thing or two about being called things they don't want to be called :elon
filler post
filler is systematically deleting his posts rn :goty
Post by: james on October 12, 2022, 12:15:52 PM
The funny thing about Latinx and latinx people not liking it very much, is that its being pushed by a group of people who should know a thing or two about being called things they don't want to be called :elon
filler post
filler is systematically deleting his posts rn :goty
Its a new user engagement strategy. If you want to read his posts, you need to see them within 3 hours. Keeps click rates high on here.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 12, 2022, 12:45:18 PM
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on October 12, 2022, 01:57:22 PM
GF is Mexican...no Hispanic people in real life use the term "latinx" and most find it weird and dismissive to how their language works. It's definitely some white liberal shit.
I suspect its probably third generation+ US immigrants who are 100% culturally American and consequently think in American English (and might not even know Spanish beyond basic conversational) but still want to declare 'minority status' at the colleges their parents and grand parents worked hard to get to afford, because they don't want to acknowledge the privilege they have while denouncing it in others.
Post by: benjipwns on October 12, 2022, 04:31:06 PM
https://twitter.com/mynerdyhome/status/1580053493565382657Okay, but why did they capitalize the X in the headline originally?
The prevalence of Latinx sure is funny. It seems that every time it's used there's a large amount of people who are upset by it, meanwhile I have never seen outrage when a company used Latino or Latina. So what even is the gain for a company like Disney to use it in the first place? And now through they're backtracking they're actually in the uncomfortable spot of having to essentially denounce Latinx
Post by: Polident Hive on October 12, 2022, 05:35:54 PM
Post by: benjipwns on October 12, 2022, 06:59:52 PM
https://twitter.com/NYC_hottakes/status/1580215129190576129
Post by: benjipwns on October 12, 2022, 08:10:11 PM
Post by: james on October 12, 2022, 08:12:39 PM
Post by: BIONIC on October 12, 2022, 08:12:59 PM
Post by: benjipwns on October 12, 2022, 08:19:45 PM
I feel attacked whenever I read the brain rot posted in this thread :foxx:itagaki
Post by: Uncle on October 12, 2022, 08:52:25 PM
🦵🧞🎩👩🏼🦽🧃📼💱
Post by: Potato on October 12, 2022, 10:20:02 PM
wait what emojis do gen z use thenCertainly not these
🦵🧞🎩👩🏼🦽🧃📼💱
🦵 = Hurtful to those without two legs
🧞 = Digital brownface
🎩 = Tophats are signifiers of aristocratic Victorian English lords i.e. colonisers
👩🏼🦽 = Why is the disabled girl white and blonde? POC can be disabled too
🧃 = I'm allergic to apples and everything else. Why are you personally attacking me?
📼 = LOL, as if Gen Z have any idea what that is...
💱 = This is capitalism and it is triggering my PSTDADHDLGBTQI+
Post by: benjipwns on October 13, 2022, 03:42:38 AM
Post by: paprikastaude on October 13, 2022, 04:56:51 AM
I need someone to explain the "masculinity is banned" argument. As I understand it, men are under attack and can no longer be (straight) men, thus resulting in beta males taking over. I'm baffled by this. Outside of "hey don't cat call women or be weird" I'm not sure what men are being banned from doing. I still open the door for women, and have only gotten a "you don't need to do that" one time. And it didn't stop me. Granted I'm not holding a door for a woman who is 30 yards away, and creepily waiting for her on some weirdo shit. But in the general physical act of walking towards a door and noticing a woman is within a reasonable proximity behind me...I still open the door. My mom taught me that as a child and I'll never stop. So what exactly is being taken from us masculine men?
:yeshrug
I also find it weird that 90% of all the "alpha male" content comes from single men with no children. If you aren't breeding you aren't a fucking alpha, in any sense of the word. These dudes are not fucking women, why should you listen to them. To make matters even worse a large percentage of them are living like manbabies, consumed entirely by children's media and nerd shit. Look at this:
https://youtu.be/YbhwPwXKRf8
If I was a woman, walked into a guy's room and saw all that shit I'd either kill myself or run away. Either way the sheer disgust and shame would simply be too much. I don't want to hear about masculinity or feminism from someone like this...yet this is a big portion of the audience.
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/454/610/ba1.gif)
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 13, 2022, 07:00:58 AM
https://twitter.com/meatsical/status/1580341246802874368
https://twitter.com/elijahwood/status/1580342048749944833
Post by: benjipwns on October 13, 2022, 08:30:15 AM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/KeithNHumphreys/status/1579449919814893568
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Post by: D3RANG3D on October 13, 2022, 03:04:40 PM
Post by: benjipwns on October 13, 2022, 07:34:04 PM
According to the replies anyone who disagrees is a white boy, possibly 16 years old and also possibly European. :rollsafe
Post by: Potato on October 13, 2022, 08:31:36 PM
The term "lived experience" has most definitely reached its use-by date/jumped the shark/*insert your own metaphor here.
The following usage come from an article about
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flood modelling for a proposed school sporting complex
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(https://i.imgur.com/wxcjRPx.jpg)
:gurl
10 points to Gryffindor if you guessed that correctly.
Post by: Nintex on October 14, 2022, 07:53:03 AM
First the statues now the art.
Crazy people Brainwashed with a mission to destroy civilization.
2000+ years of history and teachings preserved for nothing.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on October 14, 2022, 08:41:26 AM
Post by: Transhuman on October 14, 2022, 09:10:54 AM
Or is that just how brits talk
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 14, 2022, 09:22:08 AM
Post by: Transhuman on October 14, 2022, 09:29:18 AM
Post by: Himu on October 14, 2022, 05:22:27 PM
bububububu muh climate change
fyi the painting is okay as it was glazed. Thankfully.
https://twitter.com/damiengayle/status/1580864210741133312 (https://twitter.com/damiengayle/status/1580864210741133312)
First the statues now the art.
Crazy people Brainwashed with a mission to destroy civilization.
2000+ years of history and teachings preserved for nothing.
They truly are foul humans. Thankfully they're overwhelmingly homosexual and cannot reproduce.
Post by: james on October 14, 2022, 05:29:41 PM
They truly are foul humans. Thankfully they're overwhelmingly homosexual and cannot reproduce.
:batman
Post by: Polident Hive on October 14, 2022, 08:36:33 PM
:info
Post by: Himu on October 14, 2022, 09:01:23 PM
Post by: benjipwns on October 14, 2022, 09:40:36 PM
https://twitter.com/damiengayle/status/1580864210741133312 (https://twitter.com/damiengayle/status/1580864210741133312)This video ended before the part I wanted to know about, how they thought that "glue" was going to somehow affix them to the wall so they couldn't be easily removed.
twitter.com/SarafromMI/status/1581002787617284097Lots of heirs spend their money on these weird guilt activism things.
:info
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on October 15, 2022, 02:13:58 AM
Post by: Transhuman on October 15, 2022, 02:34:10 AM
1888
Not slick Van Gogh, not slick at all.
Post by: benjipwns on October 15, 2022, 02:38:22 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FfERprgaEAAhlD0?format=jpg&name=900x900)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FfERpreacAAqVoG?format=jpg&name=small)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FfERpreaAAEcOqJ?format=jpg&name=small)
Post by: benjipwns on October 15, 2022, 02:38:43 AM
Post by: Nintex on October 15, 2022, 04:43:46 AM
I just remembered that all these art pieces have a protective covering.That's like saying it doesn't matter if you crash into another driver because he's wearing seatbelts.
Destroying art and culture is what tyrants and terrorists do. Like Nazis', ISIS and Russia in Ukraine.
Post by: headwalk on October 15, 2022, 07:27:44 AM
https://twitter.com/guardiannews/status/1580685058473500673
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7Z159JNbqg
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 15, 2022, 10:24:41 AM
https://twitter.com/doctora_nature/status/1545475748999430145
Post by: Himu on October 15, 2022, 12:14:41 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 15, 2022, 12:38:54 PM
Post by: Tasty on October 15, 2022, 02:06:43 PM
My favorite was a comment about how the new Scooby Doo will have bad writing.
Motherfuckers think Scooby Doo, which copy and pasted the script 100 times is good writing.
The gang arrives at spooky house. Spooky ghost appears. Gang runs around, falls through trap doors, extended scene of them running with the background repeating 12 times. At the end they discover that it was the groundskeeper Old Man Willy, who was behind it all along.
Their minds are so tiny they didnt pick up on every episode being the same.
Makes sense when you realize the only thing in their pitch was lesbian Velma, black Shaggy. That's it, that's all that matters. Because reviving IPs solely by changing genders or sexuality is the marketing goal. That show got so much free publicity this weekend, vs the crickets you'd hear for a standard Scooby remake with some adult themes but the same races/sexuality. This is why I don't get being mad about it, beyond the laziness. But even being mad about that is weird and goes back to the "this is for children, you idiot" point I made earlier.
The thing is, the 39 other scooby doo revivals didnt do anything special, or when they did, they amde things worse (ex, scrappy doo)
FACT CHECK: One of them DID do something special. 2011's Mystery Inc was 52 episodes of monster-of-the-week but mixed with sharp writing, dramatic stakes, and a serialized storyline. Also had a killer art style and something of a budget.
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/6cd2da2fdc0ced55688bbf2e9658e781/tumblr_o9numkJRY81uylufgo3_1280.jpg)
(https://secretfanbase.com/wp-content/gallery/scooby-two/345-625-c-111.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiuFyACX0AAyUxA.jpg)
It was by far the best Scooby media ever put to the screen, with Zombie Isle trailing a distant second.
More of that, please.
Post by: Tasty on October 15, 2022, 02:16:58 PM
Oh man, I hadn't seen this from that guy, amazing account:
https://twitter.com/David_Leavitt/status/1572632908115886080spoiler (click to show/hide)https://twitter.com/David_Leavitt/status/1574062434507161600
https://twitter.com/David_Leavitt/status/1575872287403671553
https://twitter.com/David_Leavitt/status/1577384658563653633[close]
Conversely, if we sent them Yu-Gi-Oh cards they'd be fighting the war with card games on
What's the Geneva Convention rule on sending someone to the Shadow Realm? Seems less extreme than bombing or torture.
Post by: Nintex on October 16, 2022, 07:44:33 AM
The terrorists have already been released on bail.
Post by: who is ted danson? on October 16, 2022, 12:33:39 PM
:ltg
Post by: BIONIC on October 16, 2022, 12:39:50 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/reclassified/comments/y5domi/rchinesefartporn_banned/
:ltg
https://youtu.be/Pft2CqfUC7U
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 16, 2022, 05:11:26 PM
:doge
Post by: benjipwns on October 16, 2022, 05:59:59 PM
https://twitter.com/2IG2sx03XF1Sjcw/status/1581503780293468160
Post by: benjipwns on October 16, 2022, 06:00:48 PM
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 16, 2022, 06:40:16 PM
https://twitter.com/harls22sky/status/1581426665606873089
:doge
https://twitter.com/harls22sky/status/1581672108114878464
Kinda proves what we've been saying. Got nothing to do with making original compelling characters or good content, and everything to do with using an existing platform to elevate social movements/messages deemed important. And this is largely a product of this stuff being consumed by too many grown adults obsessed with dictating the direction of kid shit.
Post by: Uncle on October 16, 2022, 07:45:03 PM
imagine suddenly having everyone come out of the woodwork to say "harley has been clearly written differently in her new stories since becoming trans, she's no longer as sympathetic, we see you and your bigotry"
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on October 17, 2022, 07:01:31 AM
she doesn't work at DC, she's not a comics professional, or really has any influence outside of this shitty tweet which is getting ratio'd anyway.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 17, 2022, 07:27:01 AM
Post by: Nintex on October 17, 2022, 05:57:53 PM
Post by: james on October 17, 2022, 06:21:47 PM
Post by: Nintex on October 17, 2022, 06:35:07 PM
Just look at the shit tires they sold us for our... I mean their trucks. It is no coincidence that Hunter Biden has made many deals with the Chinese to undermine Russia.
Vladimir Vladimirovich is aware of this but of course for appearances and the sake of friendship with the Chinese we must accept these transgressions.
Furthermore they have a show called She-Hulk which is preparing their underdeveloped minds for new Nuremberg trials aimed at innocent Russian decision makers for 'so called' war crimes.
This is an outrage, wasn't it a war crime when Reagan invaded Grenada or Bush invaded Iraq? Where was the UN then? These are their typical double standards.
Finally they have a show called House of the Dragon, which really shows the rotten core of the fascist West with the worst degeneracy such as abortion, incest, gay sex, murder
and perpetual war that only the sick and twisted so called Globalists can find entertaining.
Post by: benjipwns on October 17, 2022, 06:37:54 PM
Curious that Himu and the Russian PM are reading off the same talking pointsFACT CHECK: Himu doesn't listen to foreigners. :ufup
Post by: james on October 17, 2022, 06:40:45 PM
Curious that Himu and the Russian PM are reading off the same talking pointsFACT CHECK: Himu doesn't listen to foreigners. :ufup
Fact Check: Himu was killed in a subway accident in 2018 and the account username and password was sold on the black market to a russian troll farm
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 18, 2022, 03:51:29 PM
Wonder if the usual twitter types will attack Moore for dismissing a black woman's vision. :doge
Post by: Tasty on October 18, 2022, 04:41:31 PM
Cause honey, DC's been milking your shit for years. And honestly, Lindelof's show isn't even close to the worst of the bunch.
Post by: Himu on October 18, 2022, 04:52:59 PM
Curious that Himu and the Russian PM are reading off the same talking points
Nah, I don't think we need to go to war with it. South Park is cool. I'd appreciate keeping my name out of your mouth and posts. I find it incredibly weird and insecure how you randomly bring me up when I'm not even posting or even the topic at hand.
Post by: Himu on October 18, 2022, 04:55:47 PM
https://twitter.com/harls22sky/status/1581426665606873089
:doge
https://twitter.com/harls22sky/status/1581672108114878464
Kinda proves what we've been saying. Got nothing to do with making original compelling characters or good content, and everything to do with using an existing platform to elevate social movements/messages deemed important. And this is largely a product of this stuff being consumed by too many grown adults obsessed with dictating the direction of kid shit.
Fucking told you.
Post by: Polident Hive on October 18, 2022, 05:04:49 PM
Doomsday Clock, he’s called Johns something like a raccoon rummaging through his trash before. Wouldn’t put it past Johns to have made Doomsday Clock, and continuing to use Watchmen characters, as extreme pettiness and spite. That’s his thing.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 18, 2022, 05:12:03 PM
Did he ever comment on Before Watchmen or Doom Cock or the '09 film?.
Moore can say what he wants but it was about time Doctor Manhattan's dick got his own book
Post by: james on October 18, 2022, 06:28:20 PM
Curious that Himu and the Russian PM are reading off the same talking points
Nah, I don't think we need to go to war with it. South Park is cool. I'd appreciate keeping my name out of your mouth and posts. I find it incredibly weird and insecure how you randomly bring me up when I'm not even posting or even the topic at hand.
Next time I have dirty dirty anal sex I am going to call my partner Himu and ask them to shout typical arabic food names like hummus and baba ganoush
Post by: Himu on October 18, 2022, 07:20:59 PM
Post by: benjipwns on October 18, 2022, 09:02:22 PM
Did he ever comment on Before Watchmen or Doom Cock or the '09 film?Don't let him see that shit, it'll kill him.
Cause honey, DC's been milking your shit for years. And honestly, Lindelof's show isn't even close to the worst of the bunch.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 18, 2022, 09:16:28 PM
Did he ever comment on Before Watchmen or Doom Cock or the '09 film?
Cause honey, DC's been milking your shit for years. And honestly, Lindelof's show isn't even close to the worst of the bunch.
He's been shitting on all of it. Not because he hates the stories but because it's not...his. Which I understand and respect. He told a pretty straight forward story with a clear ending. That was supposed to be it. The same way we wouldn't expect multiple sequels to Moby Dick, an Ishmael prequel, etc.
Post by: benjipwns on October 18, 2022, 09:51:23 PM
I think Gibbons suggested that if Moore had actually been willing to talk to Snyder he might have been positive (for him) about Watchmen, not because it'd necessarily be good but because Snyder is a big fanboy who would have listened to and discussed things with Moore. (This does not apply to the stuff DC has done with Watchmen.)
IIRC, one of the things was whether or not they should change when the movie takes place to be more current, Snyder defaulted to not changing it because he couldn't get Moore's opinion.
Post by: bork on October 18, 2022, 10:24:35 PM
Did he ever comment on Before Watchmen or Doom Cock or the '09 film?
Cause honey, DC's been milking your shit for years. And honestly, Lindelof's show isn't even close to the worst of the bunch.
He's been shitting on all of it. Not because he hates the stories but because it's not...his. Which I understand and respect. He told a pretty straight forward story with a clear ending. That was supposed to be it. The same way we wouldn't expect multiple sequels to Moby Dick, an Ishmael prequel, etc.
Didn't he pretty much disown Watchmen after the film came out? I recall him vehemently hating on it- did he even watch it?
Post by: benjipwns on October 18, 2022, 10:25:50 PM
Quote from: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/celebrity/emma-corrin-princess-diana-was-so-queer-in-many-ways/ar-AA131MCj
Emma Corrin: Princess Diana was 'so queer' in 'many ways'
The 26-year-old star - who came out as queer last year and later revealed they are non-binary and use gender neutral pronouns -is best known for portraying the late royal in season four of 'The Crown', a part also taken on by bisexual actress Kristen Stewart in 'Spencer'.
Emma declared: "In many ways Diana was so queer."
Emma believes Diana - who had sons Princes William and Harry with ex-husband King Charles - was the definite "other" within the royal family and always embraced "outsiders".
spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Meanwhile, the 'My Policeman' star reflected on how they felt like they were "being born" when embarking on their first queer relationship.:popular
They told the Sunday Times Style magazine: "[It felt] like being born a bit. Opening my eyes to this whole other way of life that felt so right. And so beautiful. And in quite a terrifying way it called into question everything I’d been assuming about myself and about the way I loved people before and how I felt.”
Emma thinks people are "normally quite good" about referring to them using the right pronouns, but admitted it matters less with people they know well because it is about "feeling seen".
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Post by: benjipwns on October 18, 2022, 10:27:30 PM
Didn't he pretty much disown Watchmen after the film came out? I recall him vehemently hating on it- did he even watch it?No, Moore does not watch film adaptions of his work.
He wasn't too bad about Watchmen, he mostly just thought it was dumb to try to adapt as a movie, if you want to see him actually vehemently hating an adaption read what he says about the Wachowski's butchering V For Vendetta. He despised what they did to The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen so much he refused to talk about it even to bash it.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 18, 2022, 10:32:02 PM
:goty2
what is wrong with these people man. Be a fucking man.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/yctwQRbRFzQ
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Post by: Polident Hive on October 18, 2022, 10:34:08 PM
Moore actually had reasonable criticism about people not reading his works and didn't believe he should have ownership over adaptions or sequels back in the 1980's and 1990's. Then nobody listened to him no matter how many times they asked or how many times they said they wanted his advice on those things so he decided he wasn't even going to bother. People doing adaptions like The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen and V For Vendetta said stuff like they were being true to the work and going out of their way to ask Moore's advice, then they just ignored him, never shared anything with him and changed whatever they wanted so he said fuck it. Then the media has spent decades going back to him because they know he's going to trash them.
I think Gibbons suggested that if Moore had actually been willing to talk to Snyder he might have been positive (for him) about Watchmen, not because it'd necessarily be good but because Snyder is a big fanboy who would have listened to and discussed things with Moore. (This does not apply to the stuff DC has done with Watchmen.)
IIRC, one of the things was whether or not they should change when the movie takes place to be more current, Snyder defaulted to not changing it because he couldn't get Moore's opinion.
Moore came shockingly close to praising David Hayter’s script. That’s sometime before the movie was ever realized. Could be somebody told him about Terry Gilliam’s Watchmen to make Hayter’s palatable.
Crazy how Tom Cruise as Ozymandias was a possibility. Thinking he hadn’t down the Oprah shit yet. At that stage he was actively rebranding into a lighter four quadrants actor again. Would’ve been amazing.
Post by: benjipwns on October 18, 2022, 10:38:07 PM
It's not a film adaption but one of his real triggers is people getting offended by Neonomicon.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 18, 2022, 10:44:26 PM
Post by: benjipwns on October 18, 2022, 10:51:54 PM
edit: How could I forget? Guy Fawkes wanted to restore the power of the Catholic Church in England. :lol
Post by: benjipwns on October 18, 2022, 10:53:11 PM
It's the same thing with V, both of the main characters in V For Vendetta are not supposed to be heroes but two sides of the same coin. It's not just a commentary on Thatcher."BOTH SIDES" :social
Post by: Himu on October 18, 2022, 11:15:24 PM
Post by: Polident Hive on October 19, 2022, 07:51:45 PM
Barely hanging trying to understand this whole situation. Some lady uses a grocery delivery service to make a point about… men unable to buy groceries? She drives to the grocery to check on the guy to complain? It leads to the simple question of why not go to the grocery in the first place. That lead to a deluge of weirdos calling the question ableist. Some about how we’re in the middle of a pandemic. Then there’s another pocket discourse on exploiting sub-minimum wage workers. I don’t know anymore.
Post by: benjipwns on October 19, 2022, 09:55:44 PM
Post by: benjipwns on October 19, 2022, 10:01:20 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/CbwCeFu.png)Quote from: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/celebrity/emma-corrin-princess-diana-was-so-queer-in-many-ways/ar-AA131MCjEmma Corrin: Princess Diana was 'so queer' in 'many ways'
The 26-year-old star - who came out as queer last year and later revealed they are non-binary and use gender neutral pronouns -is best known for portraying the late royal in season four of 'The Crown', a part also taken on by bisexual actress Kristen Stewart in 'Spencer'.
Emma declared: "In many ways Diana was so queer."
Emma believes Diana - who had sons Princes William and Harry with ex-husband King Charles - was the definite "other" within the royal family and always embraced "outsiders".spoiler (click to show/hide)QuoteMeanwhile, the 'My Policeman' star reflected on how they felt like they were "being born" when embarking on their first queer relationship.:popular
They told the Sunday Times Style magazine: "[It felt] like being born a bit. Opening my eyes to this whole other way of life that felt so right. And so beautiful. And in quite a terrifying way it called into question everything I’d been assuming about myself and about the way I loved people before and how I felt.”
Emma thinks people are "normally quite good" about referring to them using the right pronouns, but admitted it matters less with people they know well because it is about "feeling seen".[close]
:dead
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 20, 2022, 07:10:03 AM
Post by: Potato on October 20, 2022, 08:01:56 AM
Delighted to be confirmed as a POC blud :rejoicePerson of colonialism?
Post by: Nintex on October 20, 2022, 03:19:00 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 20, 2022, 03:31:56 PM
He looks like fuckin Burt Young in the sopranos
Post by: james on October 20, 2022, 03:34:09 PM
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1583059195800473607 (https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1583059195800473607)
whynotboth.gif
Post by: benjipwns on October 20, 2022, 07:26:13 PM
Yo that h3 guy is 37? :kobeyuckThis is what changing your entire personality to avoid ever "punching down" with a joke again does to you.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 20, 2022, 07:40:17 PM
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diversity, inclusion and ,metal health are now firmly corporate buzzwords, enjoy being a bootlicker friend :rash :social2
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Post by: chronovore on October 20, 2022, 08:36:37 PM
Delighted to be confirmed as a POC blud :rejoicePerson of colonialism?
Person of caucasianism.
Post by: tiesto on October 20, 2022, 08:50:02 PM
How the diploma divide is remaking America's divisions
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/10/education-polarization-diploma-divide-democratic-party-working-class.html (https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/10/education-polarization-diploma-divide-democratic-party-working-class.html)
Post by: Uncle on October 20, 2022, 10:55:12 PM
Yo that h3 guy is 37? :kobeyuckThis is what changing your entire personality to avoid ever "punching down" with a joke again does to you.
I don't know what the fuck happened to this guy
originally the only thing I knew him for was the Hugh Mungus saga (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aVna3HohXI), where he supported and laughed along with a chungus dad who ultimate triggered a hyper-sensitive lady named zarna joshi
she asked him his name he replied "I'm hugh...mungus" and she flipped out chasing him around screaming "HUMONGOUS WOT???" and went to nearby police and accused him of sexually harassing her because the only thing he could be referring to was his penis
:social
and it turned out the poor guy had medical bills and h3h3 got his community to band together and help him out and interviewed him and a good time was had by all
now h3h3 is like, fuckin weird? complete 180 from having fun?
Post by: benjipwns on October 20, 2022, 11:40:48 PM
I don't know what the fuck happened to this guyHe made a big deal about taking down his videos with Jordan Peterson but yet these are still up on his account...
originally the only thing I knew him for was the Hugh Mungus saga (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aVna3HohXI), where he supported and laughed along with a chungus dad who ultimate triggered a hyper-sensitive lady named zarna joshi
Post by: benjipwns on October 21, 2022, 12:03:50 AM
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on October 21, 2022, 10:40:33 AM
https://twitter.com/harls22sky/status/1581426665606873089
:doge
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/284/922/0e3.png)
Post by: james on October 21, 2022, 12:35:20 PM
:pika
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 21, 2022, 12:52:24 PM
(Fuck Shapiro though)
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 21, 2022, 01:01:57 PM
Post by: BIONIC on October 21, 2022, 01:04:33 PM
https://twitter.com/h3h3productions/status/1583208694468050944
:pika
Go anti-anti-woke go broke? :trigger
Post by: Nintex on October 21, 2022, 01:25:56 PM
The culture war will go into absolute overdrive once Musk buys Twitter and unleashes the Trump like a sort of Hulk monster on unsuspecting journalists. :lol
Post by: benjipwns on October 21, 2022, 03:33:59 PM
https://twitter.com/h3h3productions/status/1583208694468050944
:pika
"I'm not an anti-semite because I'm Jewish" is usually a pretty sound defense. It makes less sense though when you're also accusing another Jew of being an anti-semite.You'd think a guy who spends all his time on Twitter in these slap fights would be more familiar with the term Kapo since everyone throws it around at any ally who steps out of line.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 21, 2022, 05:59:01 PM
https://twitter.com/JortsTheCat/status/1582252627143708673
Barely hanging trying to understand this whole situation. Some lady uses a grocery delivery service to make a point about… men unable to buy groceries? She drives to the grocery to check on the guy to complain? It leads to the simple question of why not go to the grocery in the first place. That lead to a deluge of weirdos calling the question ableist. Some about how we’re in the middle of a pandemic. Then there’s another pocket discourse on exploiting sub-minimum wage workers. I don’t know anymore.
https://twitter.com/Bowsnonk/status/1583543962052108288
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 21, 2022, 06:02:06 PM
Post by: Himu on October 21, 2022, 06:06:27 PM
Post by: Nintex on October 21, 2022, 06:21:27 PM
Ye called out JP Morgan and other bankers
Ye called out the jewish owned media and banks
Ye called Joe Biden "fucking r*tarded" for not meeting with Elon Musk
Ye called out George Soros
Ye basically went full filler :lol
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 21, 2022, 06:32:18 PM
I honestly haven't paid attention to the Kanye thing because the "Kanye thing" is so widespread at this point. He's been running his mouth for months and I have no idea what he said that has done him in. Did he do the dumb black hebrew israelite "Black folks are the real Jews" thing?
He got pretty close to saying it
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeoXh-WXEAMNRRd?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Post by: Potato on October 21, 2022, 06:47:16 PM
Post by: Uncle on October 21, 2022, 07:09:00 PM
Lot of people look real stupid getting on the Kanye bandwagon for "free speech" only for it to end like this. Dropped by Balenciaga, likely about to be dropped by Adidas, apologizing, etc. Also highlights that a lot of this shit is and has always been a movement to bring hate speech into the public square. It's not about "free speech" - which has nothing to do with non-government entities anyway. It has everything to do with folks who just want to say the n-word, attack Jews, etc.
hasn't it always been in the public square and this would be more about maintaining that ability instead of shutting it down?
like just thinking of the old internet and how common it was to say f@g and r-tard casually
Post by: benjipwns on October 21, 2022, 07:20:50 PM
https://twitter.com/Bowsnonk/status/1583543962052108288good replies there, sometimes you get faith about The Discourse™
https://twitter.com/bitterkarella/status/1583559710036226049
https://twitter.com/RebaSackentire/status/1583591940372992001
https://twitter.com/toxidrone/status/1583567929869627394
https://twitter.com/geohellraiser/status/1583572047531122688
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FfnnSPLWAAAI7JT?format=jpg&name=small)
Post by: Himu on October 21, 2022, 07:23:09 PM
I honestly haven't paid attention to the Kanye thing because the "Kanye thing" is so widespread at this point. He's been running his mouth for months and I have no idea what he said that has done him in. Did he do the dumb black hebrew israelite "Black folks are the real Jews" thing?
He got pretty close to saying it
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeoXh-WXEAMNRRd?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Nah he wasn't close. He full on said it. Smh
Listen. If black folks are Jews why we so bad with money?
SMH. The George Floyd thing is full on gross. We got video!
Post by: Himu on October 21, 2022, 07:28:08 PM
Post by: benjipwns on October 21, 2022, 07:32:07 PM
https://twitter.com/gleocbc/status/1580303138401026049
This one comes with a bonus:
Quote
Turpel-Lafond was targeted for hire at Dalhousie University in part because of her Indigenous ancestry.
In a 1990 interview published in the book Dalhousie Law School — An Oral History, then-professor Faye Woodman noted that in the 1980s, the law school began an aggressive and successful affirmative-action campaign to hire female professors. That success prompted Woodman to exclaim “the thing that impresses me most about the law school is the program of affirmative action.”
However, she noted, “for Aboriginal people and Black people, it is a dismal situation, right across Canada.” Woodman said this prompted the university to target “two Aboriginal women” for hire: Patricia Monture and Mary Ellen Turpel.
“We worked very hard as an appointments committee to encourage them to come,” Woodman recalled. “We coaxed them and tried to persuade them in every way that we could think.”
Turpel-Lafond started work as a law professor at Dalhousie on July 1, 1989.
It was around that time that claims were made in print that she had earned an S.J.D. from Harvard. (An S.J.D., or doctorate of juridical science, is essentially equivalent to a PhD.)
For example, in 1991, Turpel-Lafond was listed as a consultant on a report commissioned by the federal government about Indigenous people and criminal justice. Her listing in that report said she had earned an S.J.D.
A 1995 advertisement in the University of Toronto Bulletin for Turpel-Lafond’s upcoming on-campus lecture on Indigenous issues also said she had been awarded an S.J.D., as did multiple newspaper stories during this period.
Turpel-Lafond’s 2018 UBC CV, which she personally submitted as evidence to the MMIWG inquiry, says she was awarded an S.J.D. in 1990.
However, Turpel-Lafond wasn’t awarded the S.J.D. until June 1997, long after she began claiming to have it. After CBC presented Turpel-Lafond with this information, she acknowledged CBC was correct.
Post by: Himu on October 21, 2022, 07:37:09 PM
Post by: benjipwns on October 21, 2022, 07:40:40 PM
I was on discord the other day and dude in a server said in Hebrew school he went to Jewish comedy class. Jewish folks run things because they protect their own and pass down knowledge and wisdom. You gotta give em dap for that. Imagine. A class on the comedy of your forebears. What wonderful people. We should be doing everything in our power to emulate them. Subhanallah.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPH9ClhHPkk
Post by: Himu on October 21, 2022, 07:45:11 PM
See this is how Jerry Seinfeld got started. An A in storytelling, an A+ in Jewish comedy, a B in math, B in Hebrew Torah Studies.
Post by: benjipwns on October 21, 2022, 07:56:12 PM
https://twitter.com/HansMokeNiemann/status/1583164606029365248
for those inclined, long two part Twitter thread going through the multiple issues with the filing
https://twitter.com/AkivaMCohen/status/1583225640873959424
https://twitter.com/AkivaMCohen/status/1583252437191692288
https://twitter.com/AkivaMCohen/status/1583252437191692288
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Post by: Himu on October 21, 2022, 08:08:27 PM
Post by: Polident Hive on October 21, 2022, 08:23:52 PM
Post by: benjipwns on October 21, 2022, 08:25:29 PM
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No, this isn't a bit, he says he's serious and has been going on about it.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 21, 2022, 08:49:38 PM
Lot of people look real stupid getting on the Kanye bandwagon for "free speech" only for it to end like this. Dropped by Balenciaga, likely about to be dropped by Adidas, apologizing, etc. Also highlights that a lot of this shit is and has always been a movement to bring hate speech into the public square. It's not about "free speech" - which has nothing to do with non-government entities anyway. It has everything to do with folks who just want to say the n-word, attack Jews, etc.
hasn't it always been in the public square and this would be more about maintaining that ability instead of shutting it down?
like just thinking of the old internet and how common it was to say f@g and r-tard casually
This is actually a great point. I def remember that era but at some point many of us (nerds, gamers, movie watchers, etc as kids) started converging on message boards. Some message boards were no rules, no holds barred wild wild west shit. As time passed the largest boards, from GAF to IGN forums, had pretty strict moderation policies/TOS on that stuff. You could get away with all types of shit on GAF but using the f-word or n-word was auto permaban shit. 4chan popped up and had entirely different approaches to these things but that shit was more of an exception than a rule.
Flash forward to 2022. Forums are largely dead, social media runs the internet. But like forums, social media has TOS. So to me the issue is not them wanting to return to the old internet...it might as well be us going back to 2002, dealing with the weirdo who just wanted to call people fegs. After that permaban he'd just go to one of the chan sites. The problem today is these people realize those off brand sites they create aren't wavy or cool. At least back in the day, chan sites basically influenced everyone else meme/humor wise. Now these losers aren't nearly as funny or creative and just want to be in the normal person pool (twitter) talking that shit. Nope lol.
Post by: BIONIC on October 21, 2022, 08:55:33 PM
Ye said George Floyd was killed by Fentanyl and the cop didn't have his knee like that.
Ye called out JP Morgan and other bankers
Ye called out the jewish owned media and banks
Ye called Joe Biden "fucking r*tarded" for not meeting with Elon Musk
Ye called out George Soros
Ye basically went full filler :lol
I don’t see Ye liking my posts, do you? :ufup
Keep filler’s name out yo mouth :birdman
Post by: benjipwns on October 21, 2022, 09:27:31 PM
Flash forward to 2022. Forums are largely dead, social media runs the internet. But like forums, social media has TOS. So to me the issue is not them wanting to return to the old internet...it might as well be us going back to 2002, dealing with the weirdo who just wanted to call people fegs. After that permaban he'd just go to one of the chan sites. The problem today is these people realize those off brand sites they create aren't wavy or cool. At least back in the day, chan sites basically influenced everyone else meme/humor wise. Now these losers aren't nearly as funny or creative and just want to be in the normal person pool (twitter) talking that shit. Nope lol.In Ye's case though he was there saying shit on Old Twitter, he knows what they took from us:
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Post by: Himu on October 21, 2022, 11:32:22 PM
Lot of people look real stupid getting on the Kanye bandwagon for "free speech" only for it to end like this. Dropped by Balenciaga, likely about to be dropped by Adidas, apologizing, etc. Also highlights that a lot of this shit is and has always been a movement to bring hate speech into the public square. It's not about "free speech" - which has nothing to do with non-government entities anyway. It has everything to do with folks who just want to say the n-word, attack Jews, etc.
hasn't it always been in the public square and this would be more about maintaining that ability instead of shutting it down?
like just thinking of the old internet and how common it was to say f@g and r-tard casually
This is actually a great point. I def remember that era but at some point many of us (nerds, gamers, movie watchers, etc as kids) started converging on message boards. Some message boards were no rules, no holds barred wild wild west shit. As time passed the largest boards, from GAF to IGN forums, had pretty strict moderation policies/TOS on that stuff. You could get away with all types of shit on GAF but using the f-word or n-word was auto permaban shit. 4chan popped up and had entirely different approaches to these things but that shit was more of an exception than a rule.
Flash forward to 2022. Forums are largely dead, social media runs the internet. But like forums, social media has TOS. So to me the issue is not them wanting to return to the old internet...it might as well be us going back to 2002, dealing with the weirdo who just wanted to call people fegs. After that permaban he'd just go to one of the chan sites. The problem today is these people realize those off brand sites they create aren't wavy or cool. At least back in the day, chan sites basically influenced everyone else meme/humor wise. Now these losers aren't nearly as funny or creative and just want to be in the normal person pool (twitter) talking that shit. Nope lol.
As Benji supported, a big problem with your supposition is that everyone that has issues with free speech on social media is a racist homophobe.
"They just want to bring back the n-word and f-word" is peak liberal ivory tower thinking that people generally resent. This "I know better for you" mindset.
Go to Twitter right now and find a tweet you disagree and write literally,"this is fucking distinguished mentally-challenged" or "this is fucking stupid" and chances are you will be greeted with a warning of conduct of language and likely get a warning. As the tweet cap Benji posted shows, you can't say anything about anybody regardless of context. A consequence of banning stuff like cigarillo or nicca is that it's not humans doing the moderating, it's bots, and black people - the very you're trying to protect - will be banned from social media for a wide range of things from simply saying "nicca" to "he called me a nicca." The problem with policing language is that it is an endless regress where, without actual moderation, we are only left with a complete white washing of the word even when used in example. Even before social media I disagreed with the censoring of the word nicca because it gives the word power. I remember being called nicca on the playground and I still dislike any censorship of the word because it presumes that I fear being called it when it's the contrary. I write it myself here, filtered out from the Bore's own distinguished mentally-challenged word filter. I just dislike censorship as a rule.
Moreover, you speak of the old days but I know the Phoenix Dark that called overweight women "orcas". You act like you were above it, but you were just like the rest of us. Why were you allowed to say that on NeoGaf or here but a nicca can't say a lady is fat on twitter?
How do you manage to be against the book/library situation while advocating for speech censorship? They're utterly against odds. At this point you might as well be for banning Huckleberry Finn.
"They just want to call people nicca and cigarillo" is overly simplistic and binary in its thinking. This idea that if you support free speech you're a racist is dangerous as racial minorities need free speech the most. Personally, I've backtracked to 2000's internet rules. I say whatever the fuck I want here regardless of "new" internet's rules. Remember. You yourself called overweight women orcas and whales. You can claim to be better or have grown, but that's just the hypocrisy I can't stand. "We used to say this when we were younger so we are just going to disable your ability to say it because we were wrong?" It's just a power play and a method to force everyone in to your own ruleset so you can control culture and call anyone and everyone that goes against it your enemies.
Post by: Himu on October 21, 2022, 11:41:42 PM
As a corollary, it's odd how we can say cacs and yt and all kinds of shit about the melanin challenged.
As an extra thought, the idea of speech equals violence has always been comical to me. The fact that this idea has become mainstream is one of the greatest evidences that the liberals truly have gone far left even though they deny it and one of the first reasons I started to absolve myself of left politics. When they started to mock the mere idea of freedom of speech with "freeze peach" was when I first started to bristle my eyebrows.
Post by: Nintex on October 22, 2022, 03:37:50 AM
Other words like fuck, bitch, dick, cunt, fat etc. don't fall into the same category for me.
Post by: Polident Hive on October 22, 2022, 03:49:26 AM
Post by: Nintex on October 22, 2022, 03:54:02 AM
Post by: who is ted danson? on October 22, 2022, 04:08:21 AM
:ussrcry :juche
Post by: Nintex on October 22, 2022, 04:49:39 AM
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“I am finding that peeps are no longer motivated by meaningful work — they are motivated to make political statements. They are using company time and company resources to win a game, against their opponents, in a game that is raging in their minds and on social media.:hesright
Post by: Himu on October 22, 2022, 07:46:12 AM
Post by: Himu on October 22, 2022, 07:52:46 AM
:sabu
It's not necessary to use the n-word. The only instance I find funny when white people use it, is Trump's ongoing n-word "the nuclear word" joke or the vtubers reciting GTA dialogue. We're not using kraut, attractive Jewish person, spick, jap, cracker, cigarillo etc. anymore either. That's just outdated. I'm against outright censoring but if you just keep calling people the n-word as a non-black person for no reason other than to offend I'm not interested in what you have to say.
Other words like fuck, bitch, dick, cunt, fat etc. don't fall into the same category for me.
Notice all of those words are uncensored except cigarillo.
Post by: Nintex on October 22, 2022, 08:38:07 AM
Everything is now objectively worse. Violence against the LGBTQ+ and Jewish community is rising in places like Amsterdam. Internships are dissapearing because small businesses are killed off in favor of big corporations. Industries promising to invest in sustainability have not delivered despite receiving billions in subsidies and once they secure the bag from government they sell the company overseas investors and venture capitalists.
All the liberals can think about though is to force through these policies. For example they want to force companies to take interns if the company is considered 'suitable' to make sure there's a place for every intern.
I cannot imagine a worse situation for an intern, than to work for a company that actually doesn't want, welcome or need you.
I have 3 interns right now including a she/her developer and a kurdish war refugee. All are very motivated and doing a great job.
They are surprised how much they are rewarded and appreciated for the actual work that they are doing as well as allowed to make mistakes.
It would be a shame if they ended up at some corpo place not learning anything and not having fun.
The government in general puts way too much trust in NGO's, consultancy firms, diversity officers and other 'experts' and doesn't listen to people actually working in the industries they are attempting to regulate and transform.
Post by: Himu on October 22, 2022, 08:41:46 AM
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All the liberals can think about though is to force through these policies.
I'm shocked. Liberals forcing a policy. I'm truly shocked.
Post by: Uncle on October 22, 2022, 09:37:46 AM
Forums and old internet had a pub vibe. New internet and social networks are more high school. Won’t elaborate.
this is real succinct
at the pub when people say heinous shit, everyone knows it's a joke and to be cool, but the other aspect of that is it's a local pub where everyone has the similar interest of "drinking and saying heinous shit"
high school, you're all thrown together not by choice, and you have nanny overlords enforcing how to act, so if you're ever mistaken that you're among friends and say pub shit, someone can go running to the nannies and tattle on you with great personal smugness
and obv inherent to the comparison there's the element of being mature or not
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 22, 2022, 09:45:06 AM
https://twitter.com/Bowsnonk/status/1583543962052108288good replies there, sometimes you get faith about The Discourse™
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The Queen joins the discussion :preach
https://twitter.com/katewillett/status/1583653044843008000
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 22, 2022, 10:21:27 AM
Pissys Law :smug
Post by: Uncle on October 22, 2022, 01:16:45 PM
wait really? it's a slur?
I get that it's not a word to be used lightly and assholes are tossing it around like it's nothing, but isn't it literally a descriptor? child grooming is an actual thing
is anything we don't like to be called a slur? is motherfucker a slur? what about calling someone a pedo?
if conservatives started calling lgbt people pedos, do you ban the word pedo?
just feels like this is the first step in making it yet another one of those words that gets you banned from social media and fired from your job
Post by: Nintex on October 22, 2022, 01:34:50 PM
We've crossed the rubicon a long time ago.
Post by: Tasty on October 22, 2022, 01:39:35 PM
Forums and old internet had a pub vibe. New internet and social networks are more high school. Won’t elaborate.
Forums:
Between 20 and 5000 active users (we'll say)
Moderators actively watching most threads
Sign-up restrictions keeping chaff out
Infraction systems and suspensions as options before permabanning
237,000,000 active users
No moderators
No sign up restrictions
Only permabanning as an option, and only for whoever is decided to be a Degenerate
Gee, I wonder where it all went so wrong...
Post by: Tasty on October 22, 2022, 01:43:03 PM
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wait really? it's a slur?
I get that it's not a word to be used lightly and assholes are tossing it around like it's nothing, but isn't it literally a descriptor? child grooming is an actual thing
is anything we don't like to be called a slur? is motherfucker a slur? what about calling someone a pedo?
if conservatives started calling lgbt people pedos, do you ban the word pedo?
just feels like this is the first step in making it yet another one of those words that gets you banned from social media and fired from your job
It's not a slur in the same way TERF isn't, but it's not a nice thing to say and I'm concerned this will be the new anti-gay go-to for the next 15-20 years.
The implication of calling someone a groomer is much worse than calling them a fag.
Post by: Uncle on October 22, 2022, 01:43:24 PM
honestly I think it's worse and more restrictive on social media that now always wants to get your phone involved, it's hard or impossible to sign up for burner accounts anymore
Post by: Tasty on October 22, 2022, 01:45:23 PM
Cut out Gmail/iCloud-only Twitter users and I guarantee you the website would become a relative Utopia overnight. (But still deeply flawed, and not worth saving even then.)
Post by: Himu on October 22, 2022, 02:49:39 PM
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wait really? it's a slur?
I get that it's not a word to be used lightly and assholes are tossing it around like it's nothing, but isn't it literally a descriptor? child grooming is an actual thing
is anything we don't like to be called a slur? is motherfucker a slur? what about calling someone a pedo?
if conservatives started calling lgbt people pedos, do you ban the word pedo?
just feels like this is the first step in making it yet another one of those words that gets you banned from social media and fired from your job
If you say groomer on reddit you get banned. Whole subs on Reddit get nuked for it. I told you they fucking change shit to bat around their whims and punish their "enemies" by pushing their fucking agenda - that they continue to deny. All it does pull people like me to the center, if not he full on right. Fuck em. The lefts war with words makes me want to push harder and just shout shit they don't like. A bunch of cunts trying to tell everyone and everything how to live while talking about open-mindedness. My ass. This shows how progressivism is not grounded in anything but reactionary politics. Progressive politics are a pox.
Post by: Polident Hive on October 22, 2022, 02:58:12 PM
https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/openforum/article/Sacheen-Littlefeather-oscar-Native-pretendian-17520648.php
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“That infuriates me,” her sister Orlandi said when told of the quote. “Our house had a toilet … And it’s not a shack, OK, I have pictures of it. Of course, we had a toilet.”
Post by: Himu on October 22, 2022, 02:59:34 PM
Remember, "learn to code" is considered hate speech.
We've crossed the rubicon a long time ago.
RACISM!!!
Post by: Himu on October 22, 2022, 03:20:13 PM
Let's keep it a buck. This is all about power.
In certain Street Fighter you have a high stun strategy if the game allows it. You can put in as many attacks as possible, get the opponent stunned, and then go for the kill. Stuff like Ryu's second SA in Third Strike, the denjin fireball, if well timed can completely demolish someone's stun meter. Treat it like that.
The left classifies a new word sexist/racist/homophobic/ableist/transphobic? Fuck it. Find a new word. Chances are they'll call that one an -ist/ic word too. Then come up with a new one. And over and over. Show their utter weakness and lean into it, and disable their power. And just chip away.
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The left seems easy to exploit and this has probably been the right's strategy, to their success, since the left decided an ok sign was a symbol of white supremacy. Until almost a decade after gay marriage was made legal by the supreme court and they're seeing their wins being overturned. Oopsie!
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It's working.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 22, 2022, 03:31:56 PM
Hearing there’s other controversy with the writer and it isn’t such a neat story. but given how this keeps happening, somehow, it’s interesting. Some weeks back there was another investigation on the John Wayne anecdote as, well, embellished at best if not total bullshit.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/openforum/article/Sacheen-Littlefeather-oscar-Native-pretendian-17520648.phpQuote“That infuriates me,” her sister Orlandi said when told of the quote. “Our house had a toilet … And it’s not a shack, OK, I have pictures of it. Of course, we had a toilet.”
It's an interesting read but the timing to release this after Littlefeather died is pretty suspect. I wonder if they couldn't just DNA test the sisters? Or maybe determining native ancestry isn't as simple as I think?
Post by: Uncle on October 22, 2022, 03:41:29 PM
Hearing there’s other controversy with the writer and it isn’t such a neat story. but given how this keeps happening, somehow, it’s interesting. Some weeks back there was another investigation on the John Wayne anecdote as, well, embellished at best if not total bullshit.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/openforum/article/Sacheen-Littlefeather-oscar-Native-pretendian-17520648.phpQuote“That infuriates me,” her sister Orlandi said when told of the quote. “Our house had a toilet … And it’s not a shack, OK, I have pictures of it. Of course, we had a toilet.”
It's an interesting read but the timing to release this after Littlefeather died is pretty suspect. I wonder if they couldn't just DNA test the sisters? Or maybe determining native ancestry isn't as simple as I think?
thing is, this wasn't only released after her death, here's the article's author trying to edit the info into her wikipedia article back when she was still alive, and getting lambasted for it:
https://twitter.com/void_pumpkin/status/1508615569813422080
apparently this info has been around in the background for years but of course nobody would've wanted to listen, it was just some awful right-winger trying to ruin her legacy
after all, the only time you'd ever see this kind of thing is when she'd be in the news and was relevant to the conversation, I don't think it would've made many waves cropping up at random times
by the way here's the article from before her death picking apart her John Wayne story:
https://selfstyledsiren.substack.com/p/john-wayne-and-the-six-security-men
Post by: Uncle on October 22, 2022, 03:53:02 PM
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truth isn't truth until you can manage to get someone to write an article about it...
and as expected the main article uncritically just repeats the john wayne story, though at least they allowed a line that it's disputed now
here are the edits she had made, bottom to top, immediately reverted:
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"misinformation," "bad faith," "obvious low blows by bad actor"
seriously fuck wikipedia
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 22, 2022, 03:58:06 PM
From what I can tell littlefeather was usually a positive force for natives, so there is little to gain by exposing her.
Post by: HardcoreRetro on October 22, 2022, 04:14:26 PM
Even though you did jack shit for any of these causes you pretend to support, at least you weren't culturally appropriating or whatever buzzword gets you to feel better about yourself without doing anything.
Post by: Uncle on October 22, 2022, 04:29:19 PM
From what I can tell littlefeather was usually a positive force for natives, so there is little to gain by exposing her.
Rachel Dolezal was president of an NAACP chapter for a year, a civil rights activist for years before that, and a teacher at a university for various african american studies, and brought attention to various race-related injustices
:dolezal
I don't have anything against native americans, or the well-documented suffering and abuses they've gone through, and also recognize the horrible backlash toward anyone who tries to speak out about this
what I am against though is how hard it is to get anyone to recognize the actual truth of situations like these, because even bringing it up gets your motives questioned
some people do have garbage motives! but that shouldn't have any bearing on whether what they're saying is true or not
Post by: Transhuman on October 22, 2022, 05:00:09 PM
Post by: Uncle on October 22, 2022, 05:38:16 PM
Post by: Uncle on October 22, 2022, 07:12:10 PM
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QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteHi. The SF Chronicle OpEd, and the derivatives thereof cannot be used as statement of unquestioned fact, per WP:NEWSORG - specifically "... opinion pieces ... written by ... outside authors (invited op-eds and letters to the editor from notable figures) are reliable primary sources for statements attributed to that editor or author, but are rarely reliable for statements of fact." Thanks! Hipocrite
I haven't been keeping up on which RS outlets have gotten up to speed, but... since her death, her family has been speaking up. Her sister in particular is active online now, saying their family is not Native, and that she is very hurt that her sister characterized her father the way she did. I think the family is now speaking to RS media outlets, so, there should be more solid sourcing soon. Jake Tapper from CNN maybe? P.S. Oh, look, the sisters are mentioned above. Sorry, tired and skimming. - CorbieVreccan
In order to include anything on a wikipedia article, especially one about a recently dead person, we need to follow what WP:RS are saying. Her sister is not a reliable source. Hipocrite
Well of course, we need WP:RS sources; I never said otherwise. As far as her family goes - It depends on who interviews the family, the fact-checking involved, and then where it is published. I said I assume more RS as in better sources should be coming soon. But where are the RS sources that show she is claimed by the Nations she claims? My understanding is there are none. To prove Native identity they have to show they're claimed. I've stayed out of this one because she's beloved and many don't want to believe it, and I don't have time to argue the 101 right now, but, my understanding is there are zero records connecting her family to any of the Nations. If her family isn't Native, neither is the BLP subject. - CorbieVreccan
If you find errors in the article, you should correct them - reviewing, I see it clearly stated that the claim she is of Apache and Yaqui ancestry attributed to her. Over and over, the article is clear that "she said," in specific claims. I do not see the article making a claim stronger than WP:ABOUTSELF justifies. Any WP:OR about tribes claiming or not claiming her would not be valid for inclusion in this article without a reliable secondary source. Hipocrite
Your understanding is correct; she has zero records connecting her family line (well, really, her father's, since her mom was straight 'white') to any tribe whatsoever. Furthermore, records available place her family nowhere near the tribes she claimed to descend from.
She's like a lot of the old military 'stolen valor' people, really. She relied on association with pseudo-Native groups and organizations to bolster her claim. It's really weird how news agencies are avoiding asking, you know, the actual tribes she claims to be descended from. 2603:6011:4602:B4D4:11A:57C8:26AC:589
Hi. This is a problem per WP:BLPTALK, specifically that "Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced and not related to making content choices should be removed, deleted, or oversighted, as appropriate." Could I ask that you refrain from disparaging the article subject in ways unrelated to improving the article? Thanks. Hipocrite (talk)
in other words:
the article is technically an opinion piece so it's not a reliable source
for some reason her own sisters' statements are not a reliable source
but what she said about herself IS a reliable source, and stop saying mean things
:mindblown
wikipedia is a maze of technicalities and shitty rules that can justify any truth you want to present, you just have to find the right rule to enforce your viewpoint
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QuoteBut the person the article is about is reliable?? Because most of the information contained in this article is from the article's subject. Funny how that logic works. 98.218.148.77
If you'd like to argue for a change in WP:RS, that's certainly possible, but this is not the right place to do it. Hipocrite
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QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote'her sister is not a reliable source'
How about the tribal records brought up by the author? Or is that 'not a reliable source' either.' 2603:6011:4602:B4D4:11A:57C8:26AC:589
Tribal records would be a reliable primary source. Per WP:BLPPRIMARY, it would almost certainly not be reliable for statements about her ancestry - specifically "Exercise extreme caution in using primary sources. Do not use trial transcripts and other court records, or other public documents, to support assertions about a living person," with the note that per WP:BDP this almost certainly applies to Ms. Littlefeather, as this material is "... contentious ... material about the subject that has implications for their living relatives and friends." Note also WP:PRIMARY, requiring that you not engage in some sort of original synthesis based on your interpretation of the primary source. Hipocrite
So why is her claim, with nothing backing it up but HER word, somehow outweighing BOTH of her sisters' word, exactly. Doesn't make much sense.
So, basically, Wikipedia has created a system, seemingly designed to allow Pretendian fraudsters to go unchallenged, not unlike the Liz Warren debacle. 2603:6011:4602:B4D4:11A:57C8:26AC:589
Sorry, I'm going to ask you again, publically, to stop disparaging the subject of the article. It is, in fact, true that Wikipedia provides extra weight to things stated by reliable sources than it does to OpEds. Hipocrite
So THE FRAUDULENT CLAIMANT is a 'RELIABLE SOURCE" because she said it first.
You understand this exact thing is why schools teach students that Wikipedia is not a useful source, right. 2603:6011:4602:B4D4:11A:57C8:26AC:589
Wikipedia has countless pages of policies to pursue core pillars of reliability, verifiability, and neutrality. Problems arise when certain people want to come in and bypass those guidelines to insert unsourced opinions, hyperbole, or preconceived notions intended to disparage the subject matter and/or fellow editors. Behaving this way does nothing but hurt your case. If you would like to provide reliable sourcing or applicable WP policies/guidelines, feel free. Otherwise, please cease hostilities. TNstingray
so even the tribal records would not be enough to make any statements about her ancestry
:rage
I hate wikipedia so much, you can feel the smug dripping from their posts, "um actually we have a rule that prevents that"
even if they relent and this information someday gets included, these people are going to go on to do this same song and dance in countless other articles, suppressing whatever they feel like suppressing
Post by: Potato on October 22, 2022, 07:37:57 PM
Hearing there’s other controversy with the writer and it isn’t such a neat story. but given how this keeps happening, somehow, it’s interesting. Some weeks back there was another investigation on the John Wayne anecdote as, well, embellished at best if not total bullshit.Holy shit, that's an amazing story. Makes me mad that all this shit is coming out now and not earlier.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/openforum/article/Sacheen-Littlefeather-oscar-Native-pretendian-17520648.php (https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/openforum/article/Sacheen-Littlefeather-oscar-Native-pretendian-17520648.php)Quote“That infuriates me,” her sister Orlandi said when told of the quote. “Our house had a toilet … And it’s not a shack, OK, I have pictures of it. Of course, we had a toilet.”
Post by: Potato on October 22, 2022, 07:40:38 PM
Hearing there’s other controversy with the writer and it isn’t such a neat story. but given how this keeps happening, somehow, it’s interesting. Some weeks back there was another investigation on the John Wayne anecdote as, well, embellished at best if not total bullshit.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/openforum/article/Sacheen-Littlefeather-oscar-Native-pretendian-17520648.php (https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/openforum/article/Sacheen-Littlefeather-oscar-Native-pretendian-17520648.php)Quote“That infuriates me,” her sister Orlandi said when told of the quote. “Our house had a toilet … And it’s not a shack, OK, I have pictures of it. Of course, we had a toilet.”
It's an interesting read but the timing to release this after Littlefeather died is pretty suspect. I wonder if they couldn't just DNA test the sisters? Or maybe determining native ancestry isn't as simple as I think?
thing is, this wasn't only released after her death, here's the article's author trying to edit the info into her wikipedia article back when she was still alive, and getting lambasted for it:
https://twitter.com/void_pumpkin/status/1508615569813422080 (https://twitter.com/void_pumpkin/status/1508615569813422080)
apparently this info has been around in the background for years but of course nobody would've wanted to listen, it was just some awful right-winger trying to ruin her legacy
after all, the only time you'd ever see this kind of thing is when she'd be in the news and was relevant to the conversation, I don't think it would've made many waves cropping up at random times
by the way here's the article from before her death picking apart her John Wayne story:
https://selfstyledsiren.substack.com/p/john-wayne-and-the-six-security-men (https://selfstyledsiren.substack.com/p/john-wayne-and-the-six-security-men)
Of course the twatter profile features this:
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Asexual/Aromantic/Agender also Xenogender They/Them Xey/Xem Anom/Anomaly
Post by: BIONIC on October 22, 2022, 08:14:08 PM
Post by: benjipwns on October 22, 2022, 09:48:13 PM
wikipedia is a maze of technicalities and shitty rules that can justify any truth you want to present, you just have to find the right rule to enforce your viewpointI've seen this a lot, the main thing is it's not actually consistently enforced. They say stuff like no primary sources but if it's an entry that nobody cares about there's probably primary sources used. Meanwhile I've seen other entries where people have put "citation needed" on things that can be sourced easily from elsewhere, like I saw on a Governor of one state that it said "as of 2022, they're the last Democratic Governor elected in [whatever state]" and someone put "citation needed" on this when you could just look at Wikipedia's own list of Governors and see there hasn't been a Democrat elected in the last five decades or whatever. Then another entry will have a whole bunch of unsourced or sourced to opinion article claims. :lol
so even the tribal records would not be enough to make any statements about her ancestry
:rage
I hate wikipedia so much, you can feel the smug dripping from their posts, "um actually we have a rule that prevents that"
even if they relent and this information someday gets included, these people are going to go on to do this same song and dance in countless other articles, suppressing whatever they feel like suppressing
Post by: benjipwns on October 22, 2022, 10:06:31 PM
https://youtu.be/BpVUdDUCEqECouldn't help but notice that two of the people who appeared in the reaction shots probably wouldn't be laughing today and would devote their own "comedy" show to explaining why Norm just did a genocide.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 22, 2022, 10:33:49 PM
Lot of people look real stupid getting on the Kanye bandwagon for "free speech" only for it to end like this. Dropped by Balenciaga, likely about to be dropped by Adidas, apologizing, etc. Also highlights that a lot of this shit is and has always been a movement to bring hate speech into the public square. It's not about "free speech" - which has nothing to do with non-government entities anyway. It has everything to do with folks who just want to say the n-word, attack Jews, etc.
hasn't it always been in the public square and this would be more about maintaining that ability instead of shutting it down?
like just thinking of the old internet and how common it was to say f@g and r-tard casually
This is actually a great point. I def remember that era but at some point many of us (nerds, gamers, movie watchers, etc as kids) started converging on message boards. Some message boards were no rules, no holds barred wild wild west shit. As time passed the largest boards, from GAF to IGN forums, had pretty strict moderation policies/TOS on that stuff. You could get away with all types of shit on GAF but using the f-word or n-word was auto permaban shit. 4chan popped up and had entirely different approaches to these things but that shit was more of an exception than a rule.
Flash forward to 2022. Forums are largely dead, social media runs the internet. But like forums, social media has TOS. So to me the issue is not them wanting to return to the old internet...it might as well be us going back to 2002, dealing with the weirdo who just wanted to call people fegs. After that permaban he'd just go to one of the chan sites. The problem today is these people realize those off brand sites they create aren't wavy or cool. At least back in the day, chan sites basically influenced everyone else meme/humor wise. Now these losers aren't nearly as funny or creative and just want to be in the normal person pool (twitter) talking that shit. Nope lol.
As Benji supported, a big problem with your supposition is that everyone that has issues with free speech on social media is a racist homophobe.
"They just want to bring back the n-word and f-word" is peak liberal ivory tower thinking that people generally resent. This "I know better for you" mindset.
Go to Twitter right now and find a tweet you disagree and write literally,"this is fucking distinguished mentally-challenged" or "this is fucking stupid" and chances are you will be greeted with a warning of conduct of language and likely get a warning. As the tweet cap Benji posted shows, you can't say anything about anybody regardless of context. A consequence of banning stuff like cigarillo or nicca is that it's not humans doing the moderating, it's bots, and black people - the very you're trying to protect - will be banned from social media for a wide range of things from simply saying "nicca" to "he called me a nicca." The problem with policing language is that it is an endless regress where, without actual moderation, we are only left with a complete white washing of the word even when used in example. Even before social media I disagreed with the censoring of the word nicca because it gives the word power. I remember being called nicca on the playground and I still dislike any censorship of the word because it presumes that I fear being called it when it's the contrary. I write it myself here, filtered out from the Bore's own distinguished mentally-challenged word filter. I just dislike censorship as a rule.
Moreover, you speak of the old days but I know the Phoenix Dark that called overweight women "orcas". You act like you were above it, but you were just like the rest of us. Why were you allowed to say that on NeoGaf or here but a nicca can't say a lady is fat on twitter?
How do you manage to be against the book/library situation while advocating for speech censorship? They're utterly against odds. At this point you might as well be for banning Huckleberry Finn.
"They just want to call people nicca and cigarillo" is overly simplistic and binary in its thinking. This idea that if you support free speech you're a racist is dangerous as racial minorities need free speech the most. Personally, I've backtracked to 2000's internet rules. I say whatever the fuck I want here regardless of "new" internet's rules. Remember. You yourself called overweight women orcas and whales. You can claim to be better or have grown, but that's just the hypocrisy I can't stand. "We used to say this when we were younger so we are just going to disable your ability to say it because we were wrong?" It's just a power play and a method to force everyone in to your own ruleset so you can control culture and call anyone and everyone that goes against it your enemies.
Did you guys skip civics class? The first amendment has nothing to do with non government entities, and certainly not twitter. If you say something that violates their TOS, you can get banned. If you say something at work that violates your employer's HR rules, you can get fired. This has nothing to do with the first amendment, and certainly nothing to do with "censorship."
I said all types of wild shit on GAF, and got all types of bans for violating the TOS. But you know what I avoided, so I didn't take easy permabans? Calling people the f-word or r-word. Because those were auto perms. I say that as someone who literally got banned more than anyone GAF's history. Not to mention getting permabanned from resetera for making a "house in Virginia" AIDS reference, in relation to Milo Yiannopoulos's unsafe sex practices. :doge
And I will repeat my stance on the underlining current of this. There's an army of Nazis and right wing losers who want nothing more than to use slurs, make racial IQ arguments, etc. And just as those people were largely removed from bigger forums 20 years ago, they're being removed from bigger social media outlets. I'm 100% fine with this, and it makes sense from Twitter's perspective. I'm very curious to see how the Elon Musk thing plays out and I'm surprised no one has asked him the obvious question: would Kanye have been banned from Elon's upcoming Twitter for those anti-Jewish tweets? Or is that the type of bullshit Elon plans on allowing? And what will advertisers think about that.
:hitler
Post by: Uncle on October 22, 2022, 10:42:44 PM
(in the same way that trump didn't pardon literally everyone who thought he would pardon them)
Post by: benjipwns on October 22, 2022, 10:51:30 PM
Did you guys skip civics class? The first amendment has nothing to do with non government entities, and certainly not twitter. If you say something that violates their TOS, you can get banned. If you say something at work that violates your employer's HR rules, you can get fired. This has nothing to do with the first amendment, and certainly nothing to do with "censorship."Since I'm apparently getting roped into this through Himu when I was only responding to one aspect of what you said, I'm going to note that free speech is far more than the specifics of the law, it requires the perpetuation of a culture. I have absolutely zero problems with Twitter or anyone else being legally correct in employing their own free speech rights to control their own platform as there is no alternative. I can still advocate for a broader view on their platform and elsewhere, you all probably have long been tired of me doing this going back to when I came onto GAF but I had before then the same thing elsewhere since I came upon the internet. My time as a janny and admin on forums with thousands of active users arguably only made me more determined about this rather than convince me that we simply need the right people or AI's in charge.
Learning about the First Amendment made this even more clear to me, the language of the First Amendment has never changed, yet the Supreme Court once read it to mean you could be jailed for protesting a war or slavery and that you could be forced at gunpoint to say the Pledge of Allegiance. Even today when we have one of the most free speech Supreme Courts ever since there's seemingly eight votes to maintain all the precedent save Citizens United, we still have Alito who thinks you should be thrown in prison for lying about being in the military or protesting in the same city as a soldier's funeral. We also have the Fifth Circuit feeder court who interprets the First Amendment to mean you must publish anyone who wants to use your property to speak without recourse.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 22, 2022, 11:07:58 PM
Did you guys skip civics class? The first amendment has nothing to do with non government entities, and certainly not twitter. If you say something that violates their TOS, you can get banned. If you say something at work that violates your employer's HR rules, you can get fired. This has nothing to do with the first amendment, and certainly nothing to do with "censorship."Since I'm apparently getting roped into this through Himu when I was only responding to one aspect of what you said, I'm going to note that free speech is far more than the specifics of the law, it requires the perpetuation of a culture. I have absolutely zero problems with Twitter or anyone else being legally correct in employing their own free speech rights to control their own platform as there is no alternative. I can still advocate for a broader view on their platform and elsewhere, you all probably have long been tired of me doing this going back to when I came onto GAF but I had before then the same thing elsewhere since I came upon the internet. My time as a janny and admin on forums with thousands of active users arguably only made me more determined about this rather than convince me that we simply need the right people or AI's in charge.
Learning about the First Amendment made this even more clear to me, the language of the First Amendment has never changed, yet the Supreme Court once read it to mean you could be jailed for protesting a war or slavery and that you could be forced at gunpoint to say the Pledge of Allegiance. Even today when we have one of the most free speech Supreme Courts ever since there's seemingly eight votes to maintain all the precedent save Citizens United, we still have Alito who thinks you should be thrown in prison for lying about being in the military or protesting in the same city as a soldier's funeral. We also have the Fifth Circuit feeder court who interprets the First Amendment to mean you must publish anyone who wants to use your property to speak without recourse.
I wasn't referring to you, I'm sure you took your civics classes and passed them back in the 70s.
I'm referring to this weird argument being made by people of Himu's inclinations, that (for instance) Kanye's first amendment rights have been violated. By Twitter, IG, and now the Superthug himself, Noriega, when the Drink Champs episode was removed from youtube.
:mindblown
Post by: Himu on October 22, 2022, 11:11:30 PM
Lot of people look real stupid getting on the Kanye bandwagon for "free speech" only for it to end like this. Dropped by Balenciaga, likely about to be dropped by Adidas, apologizing, etc. Also highlights that a lot of this shit is and has always been a movement to bring hate speech into the public square. It's not about "free speech" - which has nothing to do with non-government entities anyway. It has everything to do with folks who just want to say the n-word, attack Jews, etc.
hasn't it always been in the public square and this would be more about maintaining that ability instead of shutting it down?
like just thinking of the old internet and how common it was to say f@g and r-tard casually
This is actually a great point. I def remember that era but at some point many of us (nerds, gamers, movie watchers, etc as kids) started converging on message boards. Some message boards were no rules, no holds barred wild wild west shit. As time passed the largest boards, from GAF to IGN forums, had pretty strict moderation policies/TOS on that stuff. You could get away with all types of shit on GAF but using the f-word or n-word was auto permaban shit. 4chan popped up and had entirely different approaches to these things but that shit was more of an exception than a rule.
Flash forward to 2022. Forums are largely dead, social media runs the internet. But like forums, social media has TOS. So to me the issue is not them wanting to return to the old internet...it might as well be us going back to 2002, dealing with the weirdo who just wanted to call people fegs. After that permaban he'd just go to one of the chan sites. The problem today is these people realize those off brand sites they create aren't wavy or cool. At least back in the day, chan sites basically influenced everyone else meme/humor wise. Now these losers aren't nearly as funny or creative and just want to be in the normal person pool (twitter) talking that shit. Nope lol.
As Benji supported, a big problem with your supposition is that everyone that has issues with free speech on social media is a racist homophobe.
"They just want to bring back the n-word and f-word" is peak liberal ivory tower thinking that people generally resent. This "I know better for you" mindset.
Go to Twitter right now and find a tweet you disagree and write literally,"this is fucking distinguished mentally-challenged" or "this is fucking stupid" and chances are you will be greeted with a warning of conduct of language and likely get a warning. As the tweet cap Benji posted shows, you can't say anything about anybody regardless of context. A consequence of banning stuff like cigarillo or nicca is that it's not humans doing the moderating, it's bots, and black people - the very you're trying to protect - will be banned from social media for a wide range of things from simply saying "nicca" to "he called me a nicca." The problem with policing language is that it is an endless regress where, without actual moderation, we are only left with a complete white washing of the word even when used in example. Even before social media I disagreed with the censoring of the word nicca because it gives the word power. I remember being called nicca on the playground and I still dislike any censorship of the word because it presumes that I fear being called it when it's the contrary. I write it myself here, filtered out from the Bore's own distinguished mentally-challenged word filter. I just dislike censorship as a rule.
Moreover, you speak of the old days but I know the Phoenix Dark that called overweight women "orcas". You act like you were above it, but you were just like the rest of us. Why were you allowed to say that on NeoGaf or here but a nicca can't say a lady is fat on twitter?
How do you manage to be against the book/library situation while advocating for speech censorship? They're utterly against odds. At this point you might as well be for banning Huckleberry Finn.
"They just want to call people nicca and cigarillo" is overly simplistic and binary in its thinking. This idea that if you support free speech you're a racist is dangerous as racial minorities need free speech the most. Personally, I've backtracked to 2000's internet rules. I say whatever the fuck I want here regardless of "new" internet's rules. Remember. You yourself called overweight women orcas and whales. You can claim to be better or have grown, but that's just the hypocrisy I can't stand. "We used to say this when we were younger so we are just going to disable your ability to say it because we were wrong?" It's just a power play and a method to force everyone in to your own ruleset so you can control culture and call anyone and everyone that goes against it your enemies.
Did you guys skip civics class? The first amendment has nothing to do with non government entities, and certainly not twitter. If you say something that violates their TOS, you can get banned. If you say something at work that violates your employer's HR rules, you can get fired. This has nothing to do with the first amendment, and certainly nothing to do with "censorship."
I said all types of wild shit on GAF, and got all types of bans for violating the TOS. But you know what I avoided, so I didn't take easy permabans? Calling people the f-word or r-word. Because those were auto perms. I say that as someone who literally got banned more than anyone GAF's history. Not to mention getting permabanned from resetera for making a "house in Virginia" AIDS reference, in relation to Milo Yiannopoulos's unsafe sex practices. :doge
And I will repeat my stance on the underlining current of this. There's an army of Nazis and right wing losers who want nothing more than to use slurs, make racial IQ arguments, etc. And just as those people were largely removed from bigger forums 20 years ago, they're being removed from bigger social media outlets. I'm 100% fine with this, and it makes sense from Twitter's perspective. I'm very curious to see how the Elon Musk thing plays out and I'm surprised no one has asked him the obvious question: would Kanye have been banned from Elon's upcoming Twitter for those anti-Jewish tweets? Or is that the type of bullshit Elon plans on allowing? And what will advertisers think about that.
:hitler
I never mentioned anything about the first amendment. To me free speech is an inalienable right. After all, Twitter, although an American company is a global brand and the entire world does not have the first amendment. Therefore, Twitter and their use of free speech has nothing to do with the first amendment and everything to do with my personal viewpoint on the protections of free speech.
My problem is that the left, or more specifically corporations with that tend to push left agendas, tend to change and readily alter what is viewed as correct and incorrect speech. It is constantly changing. Regardless of the TOS, everyone uses these platforms. They are used by more than Nazis or literal ISIS recruiters. The tweet Benji posted shows you can't call someone fat on a social media platform. This shows how the left uses a war on words to control and silence what they view is wrong. I find this to be evil and encourages a very dangerous road.
Liberals such as yourself justify it because there's legitimate hateful people out there that want to take advantage of it. And hey, you're right. And I also don't give a shit. Liberty is more important than keep someone's feelings safe because they called a cheeseburger or fat or now, a groomer. The social media companies have been utterly wrong on what is correct or not correct, and have outright censored media outlets on what they can and cannot report despite the fact that years later these reports are confirmed by the very sources that denied them. Zero. Consequences. So yes, why in the hell should anyone with a brain support social media companies who control what we can say and do online? These are more than niche gamer forums, PD. Culture is centered around the internet a lot these days.
I stand by the following quote:
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Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
Liberals can claim they are keeping us safe. Everyone else correctly sees them as flirting with fascism while calling their opponents just that.
The whole "it's a private company" thing is so absent mindedly lazy and even worse, tunnel visioned in its thinking. To think that liberals have become corporate knob slobberers. The commies were right about those fucks.
Censorship in any form is a dark road.
Post by: Himu on October 22, 2022, 11:14:06 PM
Did you guys skip civics class? The first amendment has nothing to do with non government entities, and certainly not twitter. If you say something that violates their TOS, you can get banned. If you say something at work that violates your employer's HR rules, you can get fired. This has nothing to do with the first amendment, and certainly nothing to do with "censorship."Since I'm apparently getting roped into this through Himu when I was only responding to one aspect of what you said, I'm going to note that free speech is far more than the specifics of the law, it requires the perpetuation of a culture. I have absolutely zero problems with Twitter or anyone else being legally correct in employing their own free speech rights to control their own platform as there is no alternative. I can still advocate for a broader view on their platform and elsewhere, you all probably have long been tired of me doing this going back to when I came onto GAF but I had before then the same thing elsewhere since I came upon the internet. My time as a janny and admin on forums with thousands of active users arguably only made me more determined about this rather than convince me that we simply need the right people or AI's in charge.
Learning about the First Amendment made this even more clear to me, the language of the First Amendment has never changed, yet the Supreme Court once read it to mean you could be jailed for protesting a war or slavery and that you could be forced at gunpoint to say the Pledge of Allegiance. Even today when we have one of the most free speech Supreme Courts ever since there's seemingly eight votes to maintain all the precedent save Citizens United, we still have Alito who thinks you should be thrown in prison for lying about being in the military or protesting in the same city as a soldier's funeral. We also have the Fifth Circuit feeder court who interprets the First Amendment to mean you must publish anyone who wants to use your property to speak without recourse.
I wasn't referring to you, I'm sure you took your civics classes and passed them back in the 70s.
I'm referring to this weird argument being made by people of Himu's inclinations, that (for instance) Kanye's first amendment rights have been violated. By Twitter, IG, and now the Superthug himself, Noriega, when the Drink Champs episode was removed from youtube.
:mindblown
I do not support anything Kanye has done nor said. But I also think he say whatever the fuck he wants. You are using extreme examples to make a point. I laid my case clear and cut. Twitter censors more than right wingers.
Post by: Uncle on October 22, 2022, 11:21:24 PM
Liberals can claim they are keeping us safe. Everyone else correctly sees them as flirting with fascism while calling their opponents just that.
(https://i.imgur.com/P3HJQ1L.png)
Post by: Himu on October 22, 2022, 11:29:51 PM
He presumes that you must follow Twitter TOS. But Saudi Arabia has stock in Twitter. What if you're an Arab that makes tweets talking shit of the regime?
"PRINCE MBS IS A F.AGGOT AND SUCKS COCK, THAT'S WHY HE KEEPS HIS WIFE SECRET LIKE THE FILTHY BEDOIN CUNT HE IS. CUM GOBBLER!"
Saudi Arabia doesn't like that not one bit. They use their power and stock to censor the person because Twitter is a private company and execute them.
Sure. On paper "follow the TOS" is a good rule, but Twitter is also a public platform.
Liberals and corporations are fascist and dictator enablers. Even now while Trump is banned, there's actual ISIS members on Twitter right fucking now. It's the hypocrisy that I cannot stand.
It's interesting that the same people saying it's okay to limit speech because the TOS of social media corporations worth billions but ride for Britney Gardner, a dumb ass that got caught with weed in Russia and think she should go free.
I respect platforms like old Reddit, where they praised free speeches universality regardless of country borders, far more.
Post by: Uncle on October 22, 2022, 11:33:38 PM
Liberals and corporations are fascist and dictator enablers. Even now while Trump is banned, there's actual ISIS members on Twitter right fucking now. It's the hypocrisy that I cannot stand.
yes but are they following the rules? should we ban people due to off-site activities like beheading infidels, even if they haven't done anything to break the TOS?
they can quietly use arcane dogwhistles in their moonspeak language to activate sleeper agents globally, as long as the code phrase isn't "fat bitches need to put down the fork"
:idont
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 22, 2022, 11:36:29 PM
How is it an extreme example, it's arguably the biggest case to cite right now. And nearly the entire right wing realm was riding for Kanye's "right" to say whatever he wants as if it was a first amendment case (it's not). Twitter doesn't allow hate speech and shitting on Jews meets that criteria.Did you guys skip civics class? The first amendment has nothing to do with non government entities, and certainly not twitter. If you say something that violates their TOS, you can get banned. If you say something at work that violates your employer's HR rules, you can get fired. This has nothing to do with the first amendment, and certainly nothing to do with "censorship."Since I'm apparently getting roped into this through Himu when I was only responding to one aspect of what you said, I'm going to note that free speech is far more than the specifics of the law, it requires the perpetuation of a culture. I have absolutely zero problems with Twitter or anyone else being legally correct in employing their own free speech rights to control their own platform as there is no alternative. I can still advocate for a broader view on their platform and elsewhere, you all probably have long been tired of me doing this going back to when I came onto GAF but I had before then the same thing elsewhere since I came upon the internet. My time as a janny and admin on forums with thousands of active users arguably only made me more determined about this rather than convince me that we simply need the right people or AI's in charge.
Learning about the First Amendment made this even more clear to me, the language of the First Amendment has never changed, yet the Supreme Court once read it to mean you could be jailed for protesting a war or slavery and that you could be forced at gunpoint to say the Pledge of Allegiance. Even today when we have one of the most free speech Supreme Courts ever since there's seemingly eight votes to maintain all the precedent save Citizens United, we still have Alito who thinks you should be thrown in prison for lying about being in the military or protesting in the same city as a soldier's funeral. We also have the Fifth Circuit feeder court who interprets the First Amendment to mean you must publish anyone who wants to use your property to speak without recourse.
I wasn't referring to you, I'm sure you took your civics classes and passed them back in the 70s.
I'm referring to this weird argument being made by people of Himu's inclinations, that (for instance) Kanye's first amendment rights have been violated. By Twitter, IG, and now the Superthug himself, Noriega, when the Drink Champs episode was removed from youtube.
:mindblown
I do not support anything Kanye has done nor said. But I also think he say whatever the fuck he wants. You are using extreme examples to make a point. I laid my case clear and cut. Twitter censors more than right wingers.
I've got zero issue with Twitter's TOS but then again I'm not a right wing creep or Nazi. It's not censorship. In order to use their platform you've got to adhere to some basic rules, and a major one essentially boils down to "chill out on denigrating marginalized groups." I realize that's a bridge too far for many on the right, hence the anger.
Even Parlor would have banned or suspended Kanye for those type of comments. Speaking of which, will Kanye remove that site's current TOS now that he's (allegedly) the new owner? If so, Parlor goes back to square one: getting removed from the app store. :lol
Post by: benjipwns on October 22, 2022, 11:39:26 PM
I never mentioned anything about the first amendment. To me free speech is an inalienable right. After all, Twitter, although an American company is a global brand and the entire world does not have the first amendment. Therefore, Twitter and their use of free speech has nothing to do with the first amendment and everything to do with my personal viewpoint on the protections of free speech.Twitter, being an American company, only has to follow American law. Congress unanimously during Obama passed a law that Americans do not have to listen to courts in other countries if those courts enact anything more stringent than American First Amendment protections. The EU has something similar to Section 230, but only Section 230 is broad enough and interpreted to near bulletproof status and that's why those companies want to be here not anywhere else.
The social media companies have been utterly wrong on what is correct or not correct, and have outright censored media outlets on what they can and cannot report despite the fact that years later these reports are confirmed by the very sources that denied them. Zero. Consequences.It's fine to argue against the culture of this, I myself do, but you're using the language of people who want the government to censor instead. I infinitely trust Jack Dorsey and Elon Musk to err on the side of free speech more even if imperfectly than I ever would the state. Even Twitter's culture change post-Dorsey hasn't been too bad, I actually have no idea what the Blue Checks fear about Musk. They were all enjoying themselves on the Twitter he wants back. Most Twitter bannings trigger their automated system, the famous bans have never been "censorship" of ideas but behavior. Trump was obstinately banned for promoting federal crimes (I think this is shaky, Facebook has admitted it's only a temp ban and Twitter has also indicated they may lift the ban in the future) and Alex Jones was banned because he refused to listen when they told him to stop harassing specific people. There are tens of millions of conservative accounts on Twitter posting just fine, never getting banned except occasionally when they trip the system something that happens just as often (maybe more from what I've seen) from lefties posting their murder fantasies and hate screeds thinking these can't be easily reported even if they avoid the system. Recently they've kept trying to ban libsoftiktok who gets it reversed because the reports are bad faith and don't actually fit violations of the TOS. I could easily get hundreds of left Twitter accounts banned just out of spite to prove a point because I actually have read the TOS and know how to write a report explaining how their many many tweets would fit a pattern.
...
The whole "it's a private company" thing is so absent mindedly lazy and even worse, tunnel visioned in its thinking. To think that liberals have become corporate knob slobberers. The commies were right about those fucks.
Censorship in any form is a dark road.
Post by: Himu on October 22, 2022, 11:40:19 PM
Post by: Uncle on October 22, 2022, 11:42:57 PM
I've got zero issue with Twitter's TOS but then again I'm not a right wing creep or Nazi. It's not censorship. In order to use their platform you've got to adhere to some basic rules, and a major one essentially boils down to "chill out on denigrating marginalized groups."
is it genuinely codified that it's ok to denigrate non-marginalized groups? that's kind of fucked
you can recognize that it's their right to run their platform any way they like while also advocating for more consistent rules, or looser rules, and none of that has to involve US law or the first amendment at all, it can just be based on a personal value for free speech
it's probably even better to let people hang themselves publicly and show everyone who they really are, than to train them how to skirt around carefully and have plausible deniability
Post by: Uncle on October 22, 2022, 11:49:11 PM
I could easily get hundreds of left Twitter accounts banned just out of spite to prove a point because I actually have read the TOS and know how to write a report explaining how their many many tweets would fit a pattern.
I'm not rich but I've got a small nest egg, name your price
Post by: Himu on October 22, 2022, 11:50:25 PM
According to liberals, all of it.
Where is the line?
I'm sorry, but after seeing the line constantly change I am at this point a free speech absolutist. Liberals continually show their weakness. They wah, beat their chests, and point fingers but at the end of the day who was that wanted to censor the likes of Ben Shapiro at college campuses rather than torching his ass? Liberals and progressives. And now ten years later, because they were unable to defeat them with words they aim to censor what they can say, except now it's not what they can say but what all of us can say. If progressives had more cojones maybe they wouldn't have a supposed far right growth to begin with? It's always the same thing with them. Pretend they're not saying it rather beating them down. Pretend the problem will go away and just STOP SAYING THAT!!!!
LMFAO
Pathetic corporate cum guzzlers trying to control behavior.
(https://i.imgur.com/lhyewZK.gif)
Post by: benjipwns on October 22, 2022, 11:50:46 PM
Yes, Twitter has written their TOS/guidelines so it matches the language of "protected classes" in civil rights law rather than targeted denigration of a personal characteristic. It's one reasonable complaint from cishet white males (and increasingly white women) that they can't report these because Twitter rejects them by default as they are not a protected class.I've got zero issue with Twitter's TOS but then again I'm not a right wing creep or Nazi. It's not censorship. In order to use their platform you've got to adhere to some basic rules, and a major one essentially boils down to "chill out on denigrating marginalized groups."
is it genuinely codified that it's ok to denigrate non-marginalized groups? that's kind of fucked
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 22, 2022, 11:51:33 PM
To extrapolate the short sightedness of PD's own argument:
He presumes that you must follow Twitter TOS. But Saudi Arabia has stock in Twitter. What if you're an Arab that makes tweets talking shit of the regime?
"PRINCE MBS IS A F.AGGOT AND SUCKS COCK, THAT'S WHY HE KEEPS HIS WIFE SECRET LIKE THE FILTHY BEDOIN CUNT HE IS. CUM GOBBLER!"
Saudi Arabia doesn't like that not one bit. They use their power and stock to censor the person because Twitter is a private company and execute them.
Sure. On paper "follow the TOS" is a good rule, but Twitter is also a public platform.
Liberals and corporations are fascist and dictator enablers. Even now while Trump is banned, there's actual ISIS members on Twitter right fucking now. It's the hypocrisy that I cannot stand.
It's interesting that the same people saying it's okay to limit speech because the TOS of social media corporations worth billions but ride for Britney Gardner, a dumb ass that got caught with weed in Russia and think she should go free.
I respect platforms like old Reddit, where they praised free speeches universality regardless of country borders, far more.
What the fuck are you even talking about. A woman was just arrested in Saudi Arabia for making tweets that ran afoul of their government. That's a separate issue than Twitter banning/suspending someone for using the f-word.
Speaking of which
https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2022/08/09/ex-twitter-employee-convicted-of-sending-private-data-to-saudi-government/?sh=16ee0d2fd062
Twitter has no control over how governments will react to tweets from users who live in countries that actually stifle or ban free speech (you know, unlike the US). Sharing sensitive data with authoritarian governments in order to help them arrest users would be bad. Thankfully that's not something that Twitter officially does. So again, what are you talking about.
Trump was banned for clearly violating the TOS multiple times, culminating in him orchestrating a violent riot. Twitter bans (literally) hundreds of thousands of ISIS accounts yearly.
"Public platform" lol, who is the conservative here again. It's a private website/app a lot of people use. Follow the rules and you'll be fine. Don't follow them and you get banned. That's how websites/app operate.
Post by: benjipwns on October 22, 2022, 11:52:36 PM
I think the biggest question here is how much power should one corporation wield on platforms that we all use?Twitter owns Twitter.
Post by: Uncle on October 22, 2022, 11:54:03 PM
I think the biggest question here is how much power should one corporation wield on platforms that we all use?
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/05/05/10-facts-about-americans-and-twitter/
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Around one-in-five U.S. adults (23%) say they use Twitter.
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A minority of Twitter users produce the vast majority of tweets. Among U.S. adults who use Twitter, the top 25% of users by tweet volume produce 97% of all tweets, while the bottom 75% of users produce just 3%, according to an analysis conducted over a three-month period in 2021.
thus 6% of the population are responsible for 97% of all tweets
Post by: Himu on October 22, 2022, 11:55:33 PM
I think the biggest question here is how much power should one corporation wield on platforms that we all use?
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/05/05/10-facts-about-americans-and-twitter/QuoteAround one-in-five U.S. adults (23%) say they use Twitter.QuoteA minority of Twitter users produce the vast majority of tweets. Among U.S. adults who use Twitter, the top 25% of users by tweet volume produce 97% of all tweets, while the bottom 75% of users produce just 3%, according to an analysis conducted over a three-month period in 2021.
thus 6% of the population are responsible for 97% of all tweets
My ire isn't just Twitter. Facebook jail is just as much a thing.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 22, 2022, 11:56:55 PM
I think the biggest question here is how much power should one corporation wield on platforms that we all use?Twitter owns Twitter.
No Benji, it needs to be taken over by the government in order to ensure fair use for all Americans. This is the conservative position. :doge
Post by: Himu on October 22, 2022, 11:58:31 PM
I trust them even less than corporations.
Keep trying to pigeon hole me.
Post by: Himu on October 23, 2022, 12:05:09 AM
I never mentioned anything about the first amendment. To me free speech is an inalienable right. After all, Twitter, although an American company is a global brand and the entire world does not have the first amendment. Therefore, Twitter and their use of free speech has nothing to do with the first amendment and everything to do with my personal viewpoint on the protections of free speech.Twitter, being an American company, only has to follow American law. Congress unanimously during Obama passed a law that Americans do not have to listen to courts in other countries if those courts enact anything more stringent than American First Amendment protections. The EU has something similar to Section 230, but only Section 230 is broad enough and interpreted to near bulletproof status and that's why those companies want to be here not anywhere else.The social media companies have been utterly wrong on what is correct or not correct, and have outright censored media outlets on what they can and cannot report despite the fact that years later these reports are confirmed by the very sources that denied them. Zero. Consequences.It's fine to argue against the culture of this, I myself do, but you're using the language of people who want the government to censor instead. I infinitely trust Jack Dorsey and Elon Musk to err on the side of free speech more even if imperfectly than I ever would the state. Even Twitter's culture change post-Dorsey hasn't been too bad, I actually have no idea what the Blue Checks fear about Musk. They were all enjoying themselves on the Twitter he wants back. Most Twitter bannings trigger their automated system, the famous bans have never been "censorship" of ideas but behavior. Trump was obstinately banned for promoting federal crimes (I think this is shaky, Facebook has admitted it's only a temp ban and Twitter has also indicated they may lift the ban in the future) and Alex Jones was banned because he refused to listen when they told him to stop harassing specific people. There are tens of millions of conservative accounts on Twitter posting just fine, never getting banned except occasionally when they trip the system something that happens just as often (maybe more from what I've seen) from lefties posting their murder fantasies and hate screeds thinking these can't be easily reported even if they avoid the system. Recently they've kept trying to ban libsoftiktok who gets it reversed because the reports are bad faith and don't actually fit violations of the TOS. I could easily get hundreds of left Twitter accounts banned just out of spite to prove a point because I actually have read the TOS and know how to write a report explaining how their many many tweets would fit a pattern.
...
The whole "it's a private company" thing is so absent mindedly lazy and even worse, tunnel visioned in its thinking. To think that liberals have become corporate knob slobberers. The commies were right about those fucks.
Censorship in any form is a dark road.
Hm, that's fair. I don't report anyone. Say whatever the fuck you want. So the lopsidedness is a culture difference between the lefties attempt to censor and the righties (and adjacent) just not giving a fuck about reporting?
Post by: benjipwns on October 23, 2022, 12:20:08 AM
Hm, that's fair. I don't report anyone. Say whatever the fuck you want. So the lopsidedness is a culture difference between the lefties attempt to censor and the righties (and adjacent) just not giving a fuck about reporting?Twitter leans heavily to the "left", there's been similar surveys to what Uncle posted that all confirm this. The Democrats on there are more to the left than the party base, many of the conservatives are more socially liberal/libertarian and/or conversely oppose things like free trade, etc. The most active users lean even more to the left than the Twitter population as a whole and they're responsible for an overwhelming amount of the activity. This alone would give them more dominance on the platform. I do think there has been a cultural thing, large sections of Twitter openly talk and brag about how many people they block and how they'll block anyone who says something they dislike and use block lists with many thousands of users they've never heard of. There are "fact checkers" on there notorious for blocking anyone who points out they're wrong and then blocking anyone who likes or follows the person who pointed out they were wrong. Tons of people talk about blocking people for "their safety" and it almost always means they said something stupid that got attention. I have to conclude these types of people are more likely to report things assuming that anything they dislike is a death threat because they often also whine about how Twitter ignores their constant reports. Usually I see conservative Twitter more apt to respond directly. Black Twitter similarly seems to respond rather than report or block and there are other similar subcultures in which public discussion is actually valued. I'm not sure if it's a "leftie" thing, though they do seem to more likely subscribe to Repressive Tolerance in my opinion, it may just be a socialcultural thing in their circles with no political or theoretical basis to it.
Blue Checks are doubly protected because they have special views that allow them to only see replies from other Blue Checks and people they follow. For "their safety" they can literally not ever see replies from the masses. Lots of non-Blue Checks complain that they don't have access to this and it makes them unsafe on Twitter because their publicly posted (not privately, which Twitter allows) stupidity gets challenged and blocking everyone else preemptively is an obvious non-starter if you want to accrue followers.
Post by: Himu on October 23, 2022, 12:22:21 AM
Socialists are absolutely right about liberals and their use of capitalism for their interests. At least conservatives don't hide who they are. I disagree with the socialist ideology but they seem to be absolutely correct on liberals.
Post by: Himu on October 23, 2022, 12:31:11 AM
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When corporations adopt a liberal aesthetic, liberals like to point to that as evidence that their ideology is improving the world. The reality is that the liberals are simply taking control of the fascistic corporations, and while they may “talk the talk”, they still are not ethical.
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One of the most depressing things about modern politics is how easy it is to co-opt genuinely progressive (in the economic sense) movements via divide and conquer.
"Don't demonize the 1%! Some of us are probably lesbians of color!"
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There will already be a chorus of people rightfully noting that liberals were never against corporations. However, if you're looking for a theory as to why American "liberals", particularly the social justice kind, shifted attitudes from the 90s to now on corporations comes from the conflict-based view of sociology that their social justice critique was predicated on.
When the left was perceived to be on the losing end of the culture wars, corporations were seen as indulging in the populist, regressive taste of the masses (because admittedly they were and always will). Social justice groups saw corporations, particularly media corporations, as dangerous defenders and curators of the white male supra-culture. The social justice critiques of these times then were not against corporations and centralized power in principle as much as they were against the white male coded nature of them. Yes, these same critics would allude to anti-capitalist critiques, but with the primary fixation being the role of capitalism in supporting white, male supremacy.
Two things happened though. First, corporations realized there is profit to be made from the disposable income and woke views of the next generation of yuppies. Second, the woke realized that the risk averse nature of corporate entities and the imperative under modern capitalism to reach the widest audience possible in pursuit of ever smaller profit margins meant corporations, as well as those NGOs that had been subsumed by corporatization (e.g. universities), could be influenced by moral panic and pressure campaigns. There are a host of parallel trends that explain why this former change was so successful that would be a longer post.
These two trends resulted in corporations' rational self-interest for profit becoming married with becoming curators of the new cultural status quo: woke-ism. For those that opposed corporations because of their white male centered nature, and not out of a principled rejection of centralized power, there was no longer a reason for opposition. Companies could churn out safe inclusion of new identities and allusions to progressive cultural ideas, while not having to actually relinquish their power. Additionally, as the mess that is the American electoral system continued to erode people's belief in voting and legislation as the means for civil right protection, companies were seen as a new fifth estate for protecting the new status quo against reactionary forces. It was the actions of private companies we had to suddenly rely on for trying push Georgia and others to abandon trans bathroom bills.
tl;dr When it was transgressive to be progressive, the line toe-ing of corporation was regressive. Now that its transgressive to be something other than woke, the line toe-ing of corporations is useful to maintaining the new hegemony.
https://www.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/comments/uck2tr/when_did_liberals_become_procorporation/
I disagree with their politics but I feel like I could go and hang out and chat with a socialist. Libs tho :kobeyuck :gurl
Post by: Himu on October 23, 2022, 12:50:09 AM
:sabu
https://twitter.com/Humanbydesign3/status/1583234597940187136
What a racist fuck. Shit isn't even in America.
Post by: benjipwns on October 23, 2022, 12:52:31 AM
Post by: Uncle on October 23, 2022, 12:58:30 AM
If the cops "win" then their side "loses" and this includes anyone they decide is on the side of the cops like Kyle Rittenhouse.
and inherent in that same decay is that the other "team" will notice the demonization of Rittenhouse and rush to recruit him and get him on the speaking circuit so that their side can win
the other side says see, he's a right wing grifter, he was planning on doing this all along, when he was just a fucking nobody who ended up as the latest game ball like so many others
Post by: benjipwns on October 23, 2022, 01:04:56 AM
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 23, 2022, 01:10:23 AM
I think it has to do with many people who self-proclaim for being on the left actually just mean they support the Democrats. And then it's a team sport which means it's about winning. That's why we have the endless content of them being hypocrites, they didn't come to their positions though reasoning they came to their positions by following a "winning" crowd. I admittingly love pointing out that people who started putting ACAB in the profiles and talking about hating cops around 2020 all seem to love a super punitive state that endlessly harasses its citizens and threatens to jail or kill them for disobeying without any care for their legal rights, they just don't like it when it happens to people they think are on their side. Then it's a serious social problem that needs to be addressed now through something revolutionary without evaluating whether it's a good idea. They didn't become ACAB because they suddenly converted to non-violence or true beliefs about the militarization of the police or fair trials with constitutional rights respected or whatever, they mostly just came to identify the police as an opponent. If the cops "win" then their side "loses" and this includes anyone they decide is on the side of the cops like Kyle Rittenhouse. And what do you do to enemies and those who help your enemies in anyway? Use the force of the state to crush them relentlessly, it's what they'd do after all! We're at war, play it tactical.I'd disagree on ACAB there. We're talking about a few separate groups. On one hand you have a group of anarchists and Marxists who oppose the capitalist state in of itself as much as they oppose its police. On one hand you've got black activists who aren't full blown Marxists but are fully invested in Defund The Police ideals on government budget priorities. Then you have liberals, many of them who are white, who don't really agree with any of this shit but throw it in the twitter bio. Because the worst thing for them is not being in tune with whatever the latest movement is. These are the same people who call the police on homeless people in San Francisco.
The amount of people actively dedicated to ACAB and/or Defund movements is pretty small. They're pretty loud on twitter, of course.
Post by: Himu on October 23, 2022, 01:17:49 AM
Post by: Himu on October 23, 2022, 01:20:37 AM
If the cops "win" then their side "loses" and this includes anyone they decide is on the side of the cops like Kyle Rittenhouse.
and inherent in that same decay is that the other "team" will notice the demonization of Rittenhouse and rush to recruit him and get him on the speaking circuit so that their side can win
the other side says see, he's a right wing grifter, he was planning on doing this all along, when he was just a fucking nobody who ended up as the latest game ball like so many others
This is why the best option is for Democratic president/Republican congress and Democratic senate or Republican president with a democratic Congress and Republican Senate. Both sides are about their "sides" and not America. Force the two cunts to pass good legislation and not their stupid fucking bullshit.
Both parties are the largely the same except for their own brand of horseshit. Guns are to the Democrats what abortions are to Republicans for instance and both are re re about their particular issue. Saw some of the Florida debate and the dumb dumb Dem said Rubio isn't protecting floridans because of open gun laws and then went on to say he's strict on abortion. Both suck shit.
Post by: benjipwns on October 23, 2022, 01:22:26 AM
The amount of people actively dedicated to ACAB and/or Defund movements is pretty small. They're pretty loud on twitter, of course.Those aren't the people I'm talking about, they're often quite good on these things even if I disagree on some solutions and they generally discovered the institutional problems with the police before 2020. Some of the best testimonies about the problems during the 2020 movement were from people who started closer to events like Ferguson and studied and did activism already and realized how wrong it was all going becoming some kind of anti-Trump social trend. Almost never saw them in the mass media and they're often attacked by ACAB persona types for not demanding radical changes immediately on Twitter while doing nothing else.
Twitter especially seems to promote taking the most extreme position in any debate to show you're the most radical as winning a debate, so you can just scream at criminal justice reformers about how they don't want to immediately abolish the police and your progressive bonafides are cemented even if you're spending the rest of your time posting about how the guilty shouldn't be allowed lawyers or how refusing to testify should make you automatically guilty or how the police should have the right to inspect anything they want or how we should bring back the death penalty for every crime or...
Hopefully he puts CNN and other outlets out of business.Rittenhouse is highly unlikely to prevail in those cases. I would advise him to forget trying to be some kind of conservative star by attacking the free speech of people they don't like and just go to college like he intended.
Post by: Nintex on October 23, 2022, 10:46:26 AM
After 2016 Liberals lost their fucking shit and dropped any modicum of rationality. Trump broke their brains and now they support anything and everything that limits speech or any views they deem déclassé. They can't take it - the fact that they lost, fairly I may add, to Donald Trump. Cue the misinformation campaigns, and Democracy Dying In Darkness, and you can't say that all because they cannot accept the failure of losing to a fast food addict with a spray on tan.It started way before 2016. Trump just picked up the shattered pieces of the Tea Party, various libertarian movements, people who voted for 'change' and got none and other fringe groups.
The 'birth' of the modern left in the west is probably Occupy Wall Street following the big anti-war protests. When the anti war protests didn't achieve anything the left mostly retreated from traditional politics and poured more money and effort into NGO's and activism. When the big "occupy wall street" day came they realized that the government could not meet their demands because they had very few ideas beyond concepts like inclusivity and equality. At the same time corporations were drinking the 'purpose' kool Aid. The idea that your business does not just exist to make money but should have higher aims thus they donated heavily to these NGO's and activist groups to show that they were doing 'the right thing'. The NGO's obviously hired corporate consultants to expand and run their operation. For NGO's the purpose was no longer to achieve their aims but to grow their influence and keep their operation running.
By the time the 'left' or rather centrists returned to power they realized that government resources were depleted by austerity, privatization, brain drains and cuts. At the same time they needed more and more help from outside corporate consultants to turn political activism into a product people could consume. While corporations turned to those same consulants to give brands 'purpose'. It was inevitable that the two sides would meet and government would decide to use the corporations to achieve their aims as opposed to rebuilding the depleted public sector (as Obama originally intended). The NGO's set the goals, the government creates the policies to support those goals and the corporations create the solutions and implement the policies.
This system only works if the NGO stays funded, the politician can pass legislation (although they're starting to circumvent this by public pressure fueled by the activist press) and the corporations are able to provide and implement the solutions.
The corporations are the weakest link because they can deal with the other side as well and they can drop or change 'purpose' with little to no backlash after all they own the press. Not to mention the right will protest against the government and the NGO's (George Soros, Bill Gates, GreenPeace etc.) while the left will protest against the right wing politicians. Neither will target the corporations.
The goal of the left is to transform the corporations in line with their values, much as they had done with universities and they are pretty succesful in doing so.
On the right the idea is that the NGO's have abandoned small donations and grass roots activism for corporate donations and government subsidies (which is 100% true). So Flynn, Bannon and others are creating right wing grass roots movements so the NGO's lose their public support. Once Trump, DeSantis or someone else turns the screws on the likes of George Soros and Bill Gates their public support will have evaporated.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 23, 2022, 11:12:46 AM
https://twitter.com/flieldy/status/1583873886281936896
Post by: Uncle on October 23, 2022, 12:26:11 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 23, 2022, 12:35:18 PM
Post by: Uncle on October 23, 2022, 12:59:31 PM
what are the odds that whatever disabilities "ash" has are made up or wildly exaggerated?
https://linktr.ee/Ashl337_
FTM with onlyfans and a second NSFW twitter account
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 23, 2022, 01:00:45 PM
Post by: benjipwns on October 23, 2022, 05:41:18 PM
The great delivery war just keeps going :lolhttps://twitter.com/twinkleskramz/status/1583874498696138752
twitter.com/flieldy/status/1583873886281936896
https://twitter.com/ya_no_but_just/status/1583937893089050624
https://twitter.com/SquirtGonnenut/status/1583938748152434688
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FfwmVDiXwAEngwz?format=jpg&name=small)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 23, 2022, 10:31:52 PM
Post by: benjipwns on October 23, 2022, 10:40:44 PM
https://twitter.com/285Slim/status/1584317781369327616So Slim Corleone is saying that anybody who earns one penny less than you should just fuck off and die? :social
Post by: benjipwns on October 23, 2022, 11:41:54 PM
The Queen joins the discussion :preachFound a thread where Nazis are spreading hate speech and stochastic terrorism about her:
https://twitter.com/FjordFjairlane/status/1584046210737807362
https://twitter.com/ctenophobe/status/1584053458440638465
https://twitter.com/rms06510/status/1584050270392045568
https://twitter.com/gaslitgrillboss/status/1584051902949388291
https://twitter.com/XXiquez/status/1584278665134714880
Post by: benjipwns on October 24, 2022, 07:24:58 PM
Post by: Polident Hive on October 24, 2022, 08:20:36 PM
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OUTLINE:
0:00 - Introduction
0:11 - Engineering
11:05 - Kim Kardashian
12:51 - Sex and the future of humanity
22:57 - Happiness
25:33 - The Holocaust
1:14:43 - Fashion
1:30:15 - 2024 US election
1:34:55 - Humor
1:37:04 - Media and antisemitism
1:49:07 - Trusting people
1:52:21 - Accountability
2:02:20 - Legacy
2:03:12 - Advice for young people
2:16:13 - Regret
:wut
Post by: benjipwns on October 24, 2022, 08:29:18 PM
Post by: benjipwns on October 24, 2022, 09:09:53 PM
:usacry :usacry :usacry :usacry
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 24, 2022, 10:24:27 PM
Ye’s getting dropped from all sorts of brands while doubling down on podcasts. Seeing the time stamps for his latest appearance, well…QuoteOUTLINE:
0:00 - Introduction
0:11 - Engineering
11:05 - Kim Kardashian
12:51 - Sex and the future of humanity
22:57 - Happiness
25:33 - The Holocaust
1:14:43 - Fashion
1:30:15 - 2024 US election
1:34:55 - Humor
1:37:04 - Media and antisemitism
1:49:07 - Trusting people
1:52:21 - Accountability
2:02:20 - Legacy
2:03:12 - Advice for young people
2:16:13 - Regret
:wut
Jeez
https://twitter.com/barubin/status/1584683208519856128
Post by: benjipwns on October 24, 2022, 11:40:27 PM
:dead
Post by: benjipwns on October 25, 2022, 05:46:14 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/eO8MdYP.png)
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 25, 2022, 07:23:19 AM
https://www.reuters.com/business/adidas-plans-end-kanye-west-partnership-after-controversies-bloomberg-news-2022-10-25/
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 25, 2022, 08:37:22 AM
Post by: Tasty on October 25, 2022, 08:52:24 AM
https://twitter.com/BabelHodl/status/1578583611451748352
:usacry :usacry :usacry :usacry
Tom from Succession must have fallen on hard times...
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 25, 2022, 12:06:18 PM
I doubt he will even be shocked tbh, he clearly wanted to end a lucrative partnership and burn every bridge for reasons I'm not sure of? Owning the libs?
Untreated mental illness is the only logical explanation for his behavior. In that Lex interview he said he hasn't taken his medication in over two years. There is no master plan here. I've seen people claim it's all a ploy to get out of unfavorable business deals but...how does it make sense to do that by nuking your ability to acquire financing? If he plans on manufacturing and developing his own shit he's going to need to use his own money now, and he's not liquid enough to pull that off long term. He's fucked.
He's received two huge loans in the last 10-15 years from Jay-Z and Kim. He's allegedly in the process of selling his music catalog. And he has Candace Owens and these other leeches bleeding him. Everything points to financial collapse within the decade.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 25, 2022, 12:36:43 PM
I get the feeling he's very impressionable and easily led by unpleasant characters. Its not like he was anything like this really (other than the attention seeking/provocateur side of him) when he was mostly hanging around with Jay Z and co. It's also pretty clear that his mum kept him on the straight and narrow too.
It's kind of hard to feel bad for him though because he's a full grown man and you can only rattle some cages so many times.
It's kinda sad that he's probably alienated all his real friends now who could get through to him and is stuck with low lives, hangers on and grifters though, when thats the case it doesn't usually have a happy ending.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on October 25, 2022, 01:10:18 PM
Candance has always been painfully aware of what she's doing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyo_bFBfoOA
Killer mike is also on that same tilt.
I have zero qualms with them using the gop base to get paid.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 25, 2022, 01:31:20 PM
I had no idea he's now in that crowd
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 25, 2022, 01:32:31 PM
Wasn't Killer Mike hyping up Bernie Sanders just a few years ago?He's currently tap dancing in the Georgia governor race, and clearly prefers Kemp over Abrams. He's lost in the sauce.
I had no idea he's now in that crowd
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 25, 2022, 01:36:19 PM
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on October 25, 2022, 01:38:56 PM
I don't blame him. Democrats keep failing his community.
Post by: Transhuman on October 25, 2022, 01:41:01 PM
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 25, 2022, 02:07:26 PM
Post by: Polident Hive on October 25, 2022, 05:50:25 PM
I doubt he will even be shocked tbh, he clearly wanted to end a lucrative partnership and burn every bridge for reasons I'm not sure of? Owning the libs?
Untreated mental illness is the only logical explanation for his behavior. In that Lex interview he said he hasn't taken his medication in over two years. There is no master plan here. I've seen people claim it's all a ploy to get out of unfavorable business deals but...how does it make sense to do that by nuking your ability to acquire financing? If he plans on manufacturing and developing his own shit he's going to need to use his own money now, and he's not liquid enough to pull that off long term. He's fucked.
He's received two huge loans in the last 10-15 years from Jay-Z and Kim. He's allegedly in the process of selling his music catalog. And he has Candace Owens and these other leeches bleeding him. Everything points to financial collapse within the decade.
Not saying it lightly, but yeah, guy is dealing with mental illness and lying to himself. At spots in the interview, he’s trying to justify his behavior as an Andy Kaufman bit. Or that he’s a soldier for god. Or any previous struggles with mental health were lies planted in media. Or other excuses he comes up with. That facade is easily broken whenever Lex presses him. He’ll convince himself it’s to get out of deals. Owens and the sycophants around him will support those delusions. Most petulant he got in the interview was at the suggestion to find people he can trust.
Post by: Nintex on October 25, 2022, 06:10:08 PM
Post by: Himu on October 25, 2022, 06:18:07 PM
He was/is a Bernie ally. I wouldn't say he's "tap dancing" but he's clearly in the libertarian area of the spectrum.
I don't blame him. Democrats keep failing his community.
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But why do you give him credit but not me? We've both come to the same conclusions and the same solution: kill the Democrats at that polls. Democrats are not the solution to our problems. But don't get me wrong, neither are Republicans. But the mindset of Republicans - individuality, hard work - is what needed in the black community, in the same way it is in immigrants. Offering things makes you fat and complacent and no community will improve until you improve yourself. The black community as it is now is functionally dying under Democratic Party leadership and ideals. The government will not save you. You can, however. These are the principles Black Americans had pre Civil Rights movement and it's time to revive them. Only the Individual and Liberty will save us. Republicans are right about that.
Definitely tap dancing for a governor who has targeted black people for various bullshit, while also lying about Abrams campaign. Couple weeks ago there was a dust up over him claiming Kemp was campaigning in all the places you'd need to go to court black voices, and that Abrams should do the same if she's serious. Turns out she had been to the same stops. Just a weird vibe going on. I'd understand this with some suspect democrat candidate but Abrams is pretty damn good on "black issues."
How is Abrams good with black issues and why should anyone black want to continue to think Democrats can solve anything in our community? Why keep running to them and assume they'll help the problem? What solutions do Democrats even have? More big government BS?
Post by: Transhuman on October 25, 2022, 06:37:18 PM
Post by: Nintex on October 25, 2022, 06:38:43 PM
How is Abrams good with black issues and why should anyone black want to continue to think Democrats can solve anything in our community? Why keep running to them and assume they'll help the problem? What solutions do Democrats even have? More big government BS?The Republicans have a big blind spot though which was obvious when Trump was in office and they had a hard time controlling the riots. Despite social justice reform and low unemployment Trump had to hide in a bunker.
I would say post-Trump they've done some soul searching and the right pays more attention to black voices but there's still a lot of "white peopleTM" shenanigans in the GOP.
Running on things like lower gas prices is a short term election strategy that works but does not really change anything.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 25, 2022, 06:38:47 PM
I doubt he will even be shocked tbh, he clearly wanted to end a lucrative partnership and burn every bridge for reasons I'm not sure of? Owning the libs?
Untreated mental illness is the only logical explanation for his behavior. In that Lex interview he said he hasn't taken his medication in over two years. There is no master plan here. I've seen people claim it's all a ploy to get out of unfavorable business deals but...how does it make sense to do that by nuking your ability to acquire financing? If he plans on manufacturing and developing his own shit he's going to need to use his own money now, and he's not liquid enough to pull that off long term. He's fucked.
He's received two huge loans in the last 10-15 years from Jay-Z and Kim. He's allegedly in the process of selling his music catalog. And he has Candace Owens and these other leeches bleeding him. Everything points to financial collapse within the decade.
Not saying it lightly, but yeah, guy is dealing with mental illness and lying to himself. At spots in the interview, he’s trying to justify his behavior as an Andy Kaufman bit. Or that he’s a soldier for god. Or any previous struggles with mental health were lies planted in media. Or other excuses he comes up with. That facade is easily broken whenever Lex presses him. He’ll convince himself it’s to get out of deals. Owens and the sycophants around him will support those delusions. Most petulant he got in the interview was at the suggestion to find people he can trust.
Lex pressed him better than anyone has. Sure Lex had some bad moments in the interview but overall he challenged a lot of things that Kayne probably hasn't been challenged on in person. The entire weird thing about his Jewish trainer bringing him to a Jewish doctor was surreal. Kanye has spoken about being bipolar before, and even called it a superpower. Yet with Lex he insinuated the diagnosis was a part of some Jewish plot against him.
Kinda surprised nobody has asked him about Drake being Jewish. They have this weird relationship/rivalry but I wonder what he thinks about the biggest guy in music being...one of those people.
Post by: Himu on October 25, 2022, 07:18:38 PM
Fighting against voter suppression, decrimimalisation of marijuana possession, ending racial profiling by police and police violence, closing the gap on wealth inequality and inner-city poverty, that sort of thing.
:lol
I'll give you the first two. Democrats claim to help with the others. Also, while you say Democrats want to end racial profiling and police violence, on social media you would think most black people are anti-police but in actuality in the real world black people want more police.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/316571/black-americans-police-retain-local-presence.aspx
Democrats have put in progressive DA's that have allow people in and out of jail, a prominent concern for black Americans. You can say that criminal was a victim of the system all you want but he still chose to do it. Meanwhile black people see the direct effect on soft on crime policy. Look at the crime uptick in Portland, Seattle, and Minneapolis, all places with DEFUND THE POLICE rhetoric now limping along in safety and crime metrics.
https://ambailcoalition.org/new-report-bail-reform-unleashed-a-crime-wave-in-new-york/
Democrats claim to want to close the gap in income but in actuality their practices harm minorities.
Things like :
rent control
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/06/15/comeback-rent-control-just-time-make-housing-shortages-worse/
https://www.jsonline.com/story/opinion/2022/08/12/rent-control-bad-idea-hurts-people-its-intended-help/10101002002/
Your suppositions are helpful only outside looking in. Democrats claim all sorts of shit. Doesn't mean their policies actually help. On the contrary they're often downright dog shit.
Post by: Himu on October 25, 2022, 07:28:21 PM
How is Abrams good with black issues and why should anyone black want to continue to think Democrats can solve anything in our community? Why keep running to them and assume they'll help the problem? What solutions do Democrats even have? More big government BS?The Republicans have a big blind spot though which was obvious when Trump was in office and they had a hard time controlling the riots. Despite social justice reform and low unemployment Trump had to hide in a bunker.
I would say post-Trump they've done some soul searching and the right pays more attention to black voices but there's still a lot of "white peopleTM" shenanigans in the GOP.
Running on things like lower gas prices is a short term election strategy that works but does not really change anything.
Gas isn't the main topics of the midterms. Economy and crime are. GOP are completely hammering on crime and the Dumbocrat "solutions" to it acting like this is gatdamn Europe with some limp wristed "they're not bad" mindset without actual rehabilitation, letting mentally ill people in and out of jail until they shoot up subways, or push Asian women in front a train, or dump a bag full of doo doo in a woman's face. Meanwhile entire CVS stores are locked up tooth and nail, even deodorant. The Democrats have got to go.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 25, 2022, 07:32:38 PM
Post by: Himu on October 25, 2022, 07:37:55 PM
The Dems are bleeding black male voters. It's the women they got and they're starting to lose them too. Bleed enough and they will soon become non-viable and not electable without a "key demographic". :lol Zehahaha.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-11/black-men-are-showing-tepid-enthusiasm-for-stacey-abrams-in-georgia-race
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One-third of Black men registered in Georgia haven’t voted in the past several elections, with pollsters saying these disaffected voters just don’t think the outcome will improve their lives. In recent years, Black men also have shown they’re more willing to vote Republican, in Georgia and nationally. About 1 in 5 Black men voted for Donald Trump in 2020, up from 2016.
Together, these two groups -- Black men who typically don’t vote and those who have crossed party lines -- could determine the outcome in November. The key is figuring out the reasons for their choices and persuading them to change their minds.
PD calls Killer Mike tap dancing. Pretty soon he will be one of the few brothers still riding Dem dick. But keep fucking that chicken I guess.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on October 25, 2022, 08:02:53 PM
Killer Mike is helping communities directly. and his end game isn't "kill democrats" its's help people. You're off kilter and more often than not ,fucking looney bin.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 25, 2022, 08:25:51 PM
I remember when the last Georgia voter bill passed and Biden compared it to Jim Crow, there was a lot of pushback (understandably so) and derision about that language. Fast forward to now, and people are being stopped at the polls because the law allows citizens to challenge the validity of "random" (wink wink) people on the voter rolls. You show up to the polls, learn somebody challenged the legality of your voter status, and then are forced to fill out a provisional ballot. Georgia requires a valid driver's license to vote, which means that vast majority of times that person lives in the address that's on file. It's a way for a group of people to say we know where you live, we know your name, and we're going to ensure your vote is parsed or thrown out.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/oct/22/georgia-early-voting-obstacles-new-election-law
Post by: Himu on October 25, 2022, 08:32:43 PM
https://www.newyorker.com/podcast/politics-and-more/whats-driving-black-candidates-to-the-republican-party
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The Republican Party is clearly no place for Black activism as most of us know it. Members of the Party inveigh against what they call critical race theory, and oppose efforts to redress racial discrimination in everything from school admissions to policing and public safety; in some quarters, simply acknowledging that racism exists is considered unpatriotic. And yet the Republican Party has recently attracted an almost unprecedented number of Black candidates to its fold—more than at any time since the Reconstruction era. “In a moment where the Party . . . has really wholeheartedly embraced white-grievance politics,” Leah Wright Rigueur tells David Remnick, “they are endorsing more Black candidates than they have in the past twenty-five years.”
Wright Rigueur is a historian at Johns Hopkins University and the author of “The Loneliness of the Black Republican,” which covers the period from the New Deal through the Reagan Administration. The G.O.P., she argues, is exploiting a moment when the long-standing relationship between Black Americans and the Democratic Party is weakening, and it aims to capitalize on an “everyday conservatism” among voters. “It actually makes sense that in the aftermath of Barack Obama—with Black people’s levels of support and warmth for the Democratic Party in decline and the belief among a small sect of African Americans that [it] is just as racist as the Republican Party—that actually frees some people up to actually vote Republican,” she says.
:hyper
The reality is fuck black activism. There has been an activist culture since the 60's. Take Black Lives Matter. It hits just one small slice of black issues. It doesn't address the dissolution of our values, our safety, or black crime. Look at the hip hop culture and the endless amount of bodies dead from gang violence. Where's that moment? Crickets. Protesting does not make one self reliant or independent. The only way to save the black community is by working on thyself, learning skills, and bringing those skills to the community at large to teach a culture of self reliance and values.
Post by: Himu on October 25, 2022, 08:42:10 PM
why would I give you credit?
Killer Mike is helping communities directly. and his end game isn't "kill democrats" its's help people. You're off kilter and more often than not ,fucking looney bin.
Killer Mike is a public figure. I'm not. He says he will keep his vote private. I am afforded the ability to say whatever I want on the internet. I do what I can and have canvassed for my local Republicans. :usacry
You can deny it, but we've come to the same conclusions. Trump would have been a much better choice in 2020. Killer Mike agrees. The Democratic Party is no longer the place for black people. Mike agrees. Deny all you want and keep continue to accuse my logical arguments with being "off kilter" or "looney bin". The only way forward for America is for one of the parties to die and be replaced. I think that should be the Democrats.
You have dismissed my views for a year despite them being pretty much in line with Mike's. If you talked with Killer Mike on the internet I bet you'd call him mentally ill too.
In fact, Killer Mike actually cares about mental health. If you cared about mental illness or "helping people" as you said, you wouldn't continue to just flippantly accuse me being mentally ill. You would actually reach out in some way. Hypocrite.
https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/killer-mike-seeks-family-of-man-who-vandalized-barbershop-so-he-can-get-him-some-help
Post by: bork on October 25, 2022, 09:37:22 PM
Killer Mike would rather have Bernie Sanders as the president and that thinks Trump would have been better than Biden because Trump might have "cut a deal" with the black community and advocates to "lean into politicians who will negotiate with you."
He's not telling people to go republican or democrat and doesn't identify as either. He's "whatever he needs to be on a local level to advance his people" and in Atlanta that has meant voting for black democrats.
Mike is also a big supporter of Nina Turner, a democrat, who he wants to run for president. I think that's probably more due to her connection to Bernie though?
Post by: Himu on October 25, 2022, 09:50:46 PM
I regret my Biden vote. I should have voted Trump. I do not regret my Bernie vote, both times I voted for him.
Let's be real. At the end of the day they're both political parties. They don't care about you nor me. But the mindset and attitude of the self in Republicans is better, overall, for a healthy country. In my opinion.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 25, 2022, 10:00:44 PM
I'm not a Biden guy. He's been good-to-great on foreign policy, ok on everything else but more importantly he's just not the guy. I'd vote for again but am hoping he steps down at some point next year. But the idea that he's the same guy he was 30-40 years ago is laughable. Certainly not on drugs or crime lmao.
He got 87% of the black vote. Which is in line with how black people have traditionally voted for white male democrat presidents, post the CRA; iirc Clinton received 84% of the black vote in 1996. There's this talking point, often used by Candace Owens, that black people are waking up and yet...not only are republicans doing nothing to appeal to black voters, they're often openly antagonistic. Most black people recognize that and the data makes it pretty clear that they've stuck with the party they trust for good or bad.
Post by: Himu on October 25, 2022, 11:00:26 PM
KANYE WEST DID NOT OWN THE DESIGNS OF HIS OWN SHOES??!?!
. . .
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Someone come help this man.
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on October 26, 2022, 09:01:38 AM
Trump definitely > Biden.
I regret my Biden vote. I should have voted Trump. I do not regret my Bernie vote, both times I voted for him.
Let's be real. At the end of the day they're both political parties. They don't care about you nor me. But the mindset and attitude of the self in Republicans is better, overall, for a healthy country. In my opinion.
That's because its easier to pretend someone who didn't win and therefore did nothing would be better than someone who had to deal with realpolitik to achieve whatever they did.
Ultimately, the Left / Right spectrum isn't about social issues, money, or even really power; it's about change.
Republicans think things right now are pretty great and don't want to change anything because it might make things worse.
Democrats think things right now aren't that great, and changing some things will make everything better for the majority.
That's why a lot of minorities traditionally vote left wing / Democrat.
Even when a lot of the people representing the Democrats are obnoxious as fuck, or blatantly stupid ideas are being floated around as possible policy; it represents the quality of change, possibly for the better.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on October 26, 2022, 09:46:02 AM
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that thinks Trump would have been better than Biden because Trump
This is misconstruing what he said. He's talking about knowing that trump just wants wins, and with that you can get him to do anything. Which has been proven time and time again.
His hesitation to trust Biden and co. isn't misplaced. dems have been pulling the football gag for their entire run.
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 26, 2022, 02:12:55 PM
They had to make it political. :cry
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 26, 2022, 02:24:08 PM
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on October 26, 2022, 02:27:15 PM
Post by: Himu on October 26, 2022, 02:30:56 PM
https://youtu.be/wQNjWGMyiAo
I have no idea why they're targeting Kanye so harshly given he's not the first to do it but maybe it's because the others apologized or whatever and kanye is just a loose cannon spouting off all kinds of mess with no remorse.
I don't agree with it but eh.
Post by: Himu on October 26, 2022, 02:38:42 PM
What I tell you! Schoolin' The Goyim! :bow Learn from them folks. The Jewish people are doing something right, I'm f-ing telling you man. Amazing people.
I look up to the Jews so much. Completely right on the God is not a Man, tip. Bless them folk! :bow Pass the Challah!
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 26, 2022, 03:06:55 PM
https://twitter.com/BriannaWu/status/1584886466349367297
They had to make it political. :cry
https://twitter.com/Crosknight_3041/status/1585047691826167817
:dead
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on October 26, 2022, 03:16:08 PM
Post by: jorma on October 26, 2022, 03:26:44 PM
https://twitter.com/BriannaWu/status/1584886466349367297
They had to make it political. :cry
https://twitter.com/Crosknight_3041/status/1585047691826167817
:dead
she deleted the tweet, can't say i blame her after that L :lol
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 26, 2022, 03:37:23 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 26, 2022, 03:40:23 PM
Post by: Himu on October 26, 2022, 04:21:39 PM
imagine using an eloquent account of jewissh/black relations to say that kanye's stupid as fucking rants are right.
Agreed. I really dislike the title of the video. Russell is right!
Post by: Himu on October 26, 2022, 05:34:29 PM
JFC what a dark road for Kanye. I saw Nazis supporting this dude on highway in pictures. I cannot believe this how far this man has fallen. Please pray for this man! He's sick!
Post by: Potato on October 26, 2022, 06:04:17 PM
Post by: Himu on October 26, 2022, 06:21:36 PM
I'm not the one hating on the Jewish people or thinking black people are the real Jews all along!
I just like to shit post and make people mad. I like getting a reaction and laughing at my phone. Kanye has lost 1 billion dollars. This man needs help! I truly worry this might be a precursor to a suicide attempt.
Post by: BIONIC on October 26, 2022, 07:31:34 PM
Post by: Boredfrom on October 26, 2022, 07:33:31 PM
Quotethat thinks Trump would have been better than Biden because Trump
This is misconstruing what he said. He's talking about knowing that trump just wants wins, and with that you can get him to do anything. Which has been proven time and time again.
His hesitation to trust Biden and co. isn't misplaced. dems have been pulling the football gag for their entire run.
Since when? Trump is too stupid to be controlable. That was was proved time and time again. Why you think even a cynical asshole that only wants money and power like McConnell hates his guts?
Post by: benjipwns on October 26, 2022, 09:35:50 PM
Mike is also a big supporter of Nina Turner, a democrat, who he wants to run for president. I think that's probably more due to her connection to Bernie though?Losing in a primary for the House -> Bernie does worse in the presidential primaries -> losing even harder in a primary for the same House seat -> ? -> President Nina Turner.
Post by: benjipwns on October 26, 2022, 09:42:23 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FfklwhjVsAAmGyr?format=jpg&name=small)
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Post by: benjipwns on October 26, 2022, 10:21:22 PM
Quote from: https://time.com/6205084/phonics-science-of-reading-teachers/
As a teacher in Oakland, Calif., Kareem Weaver helped struggling fourth- and fifth-grade kids learn to read by using a very structured, phonics-based reading curriculum called Open Court. It worked for the students, but not so much for the teachers. “For seven years in a row, Oakland was the fastest-gaining urban district in California for reading,” recalls Weaver. “And we hated it.”:dead :dead :dead :dead
The teachers felt like curriculum robots—and pushed back. “This seems dehumanizing, this is colonizing, this is the man telling us what to do,” says Weaver, describing their response to the approach. “So we fought tooth and nail as a teacher group to throw that out.” It was replaced in 2015 by a curriculum that emphasized rich literary experiences. “Those who wanted to fight for social justice, they figured that this new progressive way of teaching reading was the way,” he says.
Post by: Himu on October 27, 2022, 01:50:23 AM
Post by: Potato on October 27, 2022, 03:42:09 AM
https://twitter.com/phl43/status/1581777795440836608I knew that would be a Stan Grant opinion piece before I even opened the link. Stan's while identity is based on blaming white people for everything.
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on October 27, 2022, 06:42:47 AM
Quote from: https://time.com/6205084/phonics-science-of-reading-teachers/As a teacher in Oakland, Calif., Kareem Weaver helped struggling fourth- and fifth-grade kids learn to read by using a very structured, phonics-based reading curriculum called Open Court. It worked for the students, but not so much for the teachers. “For seven years in a row, Oakland was the fastest-gaining urban district in California for reading,” recalls Weaver. “And we hated it.”:dead :dead :dead :dead
The teachers felt like curriculum robots—and pushed back. “This seems dehumanizing, this is colonizing, this is the man telling us what to do,” says Weaver, describing their response to the approach. “So we fought tooth and nail as a teacher group to throw that out.” It was replaced in 2015 by a curriculum that emphasized rich literary experiences. “Those who wanted to fight for social justice, they figured that this new progressive way of teaching reading was the way,” he says.
every single part of this article is profoundly depressing
Post by: Nintex on October 27, 2022, 01:12:28 PM
https://twitter.com/Kolpen/status/1585613220185767937 (https://twitter.com/Kolpen/status/1585613220185767937)
Post by: Polident Hive on October 27, 2022, 01:33:01 PM
Sometimes I just don’t understand.
Post by: james on October 27, 2022, 02:10:49 PM
:pika
Post by: BIONIC on October 27, 2022, 02:25:58 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 27, 2022, 02:31:06 PM
https://twitter.com/100thingsilove/status/1585192805332549632
:pika
How boring. This is how people protested in the 70s, baby
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN1GEiO1vmI
(And then he proceeded to steal the microphones :lol)
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 27, 2022, 02:34:24 PM
https://twitter.com/PopCrave/status/1585577136940756992
Sometimes I just don’t understand.
This is the kind of shit that makes one lose all hope. The whole point of this is to show body issues and how she struggles with her self image and then some fatties got upset that she uses the word "fat"
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 27, 2022, 02:34:37 PM
https://twitter.com/PopCrave/status/1585577136940756992
Sometimes I just don’t understand.
The fat activist crowd is low key (as the kids say) the craziest online. Like if Lizzo (or someone else who has made a big deal out of being proud to be fat) lost weight theres a decent chance someone would legit try killing her.
Post by: Uncle on October 27, 2022, 02:57:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENddI_3-j14
also Romaphobia at 1:57 :wag
Post by: Transhuman on October 27, 2022, 03:02:27 PM
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on October 27, 2022, 04:06:14 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 27, 2022, 05:10:52 PM
https://twitter.com/ScottDMenzel/status/1585370875452305408
:dead
Post by: Nintex on October 27, 2022, 07:34:55 PM
:yeshrug
Post by: Potato on October 27, 2022, 09:35:23 PM
https://www.tiktok.com/@oohshesspeaking/video/7127622474430450990?is_from_webapp=v1&item_id=7127622474430450990Segregation NOW!!!!!
https://twitter.com/ScottDMenzel/status/1585370875452305408
:dead
Post by: benjipwns on October 27, 2022, 09:56:27 PM
Probably why the Queen capitulated and edited her video.https://twitter.com/PopCrave/status/1585577136940756992
Sometimes I just don’t understand.
The fat activist crowd is low key (as the kids say) the craziest online. Like if Lizzo (or someone else who has made a big deal out of being proud to be fat) lost weight theres a decent chance someone would legit try killing her.
We've as a society apparently decided to not only worship the Heckler's Veto but grant it to the most delusional and irrational people we can find.
Post by: benjipwns on October 28, 2022, 12:37:18 AM
https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1584923487319121920
spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on October 28, 2022, 08:39:15 AM
Post by: Himu on October 28, 2022, 09:05:39 AM
Thanks Musk, see what it has become?
I don't understand.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on October 28, 2022, 09:19:41 AM
Post by: benjipwns on October 28, 2022, 09:19:56 AM
Post by: Himu on October 28, 2022, 09:21:33 AM
You don't understand satire.
I'm not sure that was satire.
https://twitter.com/LilNasX/status/1585054981270687745
:dead
Post by: benjipwns on October 28, 2022, 09:28:12 AM
Quote from: https://stuartritchie.substack.com/p/nih-genetics
Last week the behaviour geneticist James Lee wrote an article in City Journal about how the National Institutes of Health (NIH; the US government’s major funder of biomedical research) is blocking scientists from accessing certain kinds of data.
The NIH holds a lot of genetic data in its Database of Genotypes and Phenotypes, or dbGaP for short. To access it for research purposes, you have to send in an application (that is, you can’t just click to download the data). But according to Lee, if you’re doing research on the genetics of specific traits, you might be unlucky. He writes that:QuoteMy colleagues at other universities and I have run into problems involving applications to study the relationships among intelligence, education, and health outcomes. Sometimes, NIH denies access to some of the attributes that I have just mentioned, on the grounds that studying their genetic basis is “stigmatizing.” Sometimes, it demands updates about ongoing research, with the implied threat that it could withdraw usage if it doesn’t receive satisfactory answers. In some cases, NIH has retroactively withdrawn access for research it had previously approved.And it’s not like these are studies on the ultra-controversial parts of intelligence research:QuoteNote that none of the studies I am referring to include inquiries into race or sex differences. Apparently, NIH is clamping down on a broad range of attempts to explore the relationship between genetics and intelligence.
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Except, the NIH don’t agree. When we tried to access GWAS summary statistics from a 2019 GWAS on Alzheimer’s disease which was stored on another NIH site, called NIAGADS (the National Institute on Aging Genetics of Alzheimer's Disease Data Storage Site), we were stopped in our tracks by the following rule:QuotePlease note that these summary data should not be used for research into the genetics of intelligence, education, social outcomes such as income, or potentially sensitive behavioral traits such as alcohol or drug addictions.Huh. I should note that there are many downloadable datasets on the same website that don’t have this restriction: it seems to apply to this one and a couple of others that I could immediately find (one that’s also about Alzheimer’s, and one that’s about brain MRI scan data).
No justification of this rule is given on the page, and I couldn’t find any more specifics anywhere. I emailed NIAGADS to ask what the rationale was, and they replied using similar language to that quoted in the James Lee article above:Quote…the association of genetic data with any of these parameters can be stigmatizing to the individuals or groups of individuals in a particular study. Any type of stigmatization that could be associated with genetic data is contrary to NIH policy.
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More worrying, though, is the fact that this rule could stymie potentially-important research on ageing. Alzheimer’s is all about your cognitive abilities—your memory, but more broadly your intelligence—declining to such a point that it causes you serious problems in your everyday life, causes you to lose your independence, and so on. The ageing of our cognitive abilities—whether or not this turns into diagnosable dementia—is going to become a bigger and bigger issue in ageing societies. NIH preventing scientists from using genetic data on Alzheimer’s to learn about the genetics of intelligence could easily slow down research into cognitive ageing - and into treatments for it.
And for what? If you think my points above are a bit vague (“there might be benefits in future”), then that’s in part because the benefits of science are often hard to predict - that’s why we give scientists freedom of inquiry. But few people ever question the precision of the language on the other side of the argument: should we just accept that (a) this research really is “stigmatising”; (b) that this stigmatisation causes actual quantifiable harm in the real world; and (c) that these harms outweigh the potential benefits of research on these topics going ahead? If there’s a case for any of these points, it’s never laid out with any accompanying evidence.
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This NIH kind of rule is clearly, in part at least, a reaction to that kind of research. But it’s not clear that it’s required: to access the NIAGADS data, you have to submit a letter from your university’s ethics board saying they approve of the research, as well as a biographical sketch to show that the lead researcher has the experience necessary to handle the data, along with other documents. Only scholars from bona fide universities are going to even attempt to access these data - many of the internet-troll researchers don’t have a university affiliation in the first place.
Also, though, and as mentioned by James Lee in his article, the rule doesn’t specifically ban research that’s on race or sex differences. It doesn’t specifically ban research that’s poorly designed, or confounded. It bans all research to do with genetics, intelligence, or income that uses these data. Even a study that used these data to show that “actually it’s not possible to learn anything useful about race or sex differences using these data due to XYZ statistical and methodological problems” would be blocked. That’s obviously an overreaction, an overcorrection to the problem of low-quality research in the field.
If your response to a few crank researchers using particular data is to stop all researchers from using it, you’re creating very bad incentives. As I noted in my little 2015 book on intelligence, it’s already the case that the loudest voices on this issue are those from the extremes - researchers who massively overplay the role of intelligence in explaining society, or those who deny it’s a measurable or useful quantity in the first place. If you forbid people from doing the research, not only will it attract the attention of controversialist cranks—many of whom are right now taking to Twitter to say that “the NIH knows these data show we’re right, and are covering this up”—but it’ll make mainstream, non-crank researchers want to avoid it even more.
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I shouldn’t have to state this, but sometimes things can be true and also upsetting. A lot of people argue, for example, that doctors advising obese patients to lose weight is “stigmatising” - but obesity is a very well-established risk factor for all sorts of health problems. If you’re going to ban research that might be “stigmatising”, shouldn’t you also ban research on obesity - let alone on its genetics?:science
And why stop there? People often object to specific kinds of research for political or other partisan reasons. I often see Scientologists protesting outside the psychiatric hospital near where I work. They are—or they profess to be—very upset and offended by psychiatry, both in practice and research, and its “human rights abuses”. Obviously it would be a terrible idea to ban researchers from using certain datasets if they wanted to look at psychiatric outcomes - even if that kind of research really riled up the followers of L. Ron Hubbard.
This would be akin to the “heckler’s veto” that’s often mentioned in arguments about free speech - stopping someone from exercising their right to free expression because someone else react (or might react) loudly or violently to what they’re expressing. Are we really comfortable with saying that anytime anyone feels stigmatised by research—or just might feel that way—we should scrap the research, rather than making it clear that, following David Hume, we must rigorously separate the findings of research (the “is”) from the way we treat people or organise society (the “ought”)?
Of course, I say “precedent”, but actually the precedent has already been set. You might have seen that the journal Nature Human Behaviour recently published an editorial which stated that they’d be consulting “advocacy groups” about whether papers on controversial topics should be accepted - or even retroactively corrected or retracted. As Jesse Singal wrote at the time, this was worryingly vague, in exactly the same way as the “mission creep” I mentioned above. Could perfectly sound research be nonetheless pulled from the journal because one of the advocacy groups advocated particularly strongly against it? From the way the editorial was written, it seemed perfectly possible (the journal has more recently published some examples in an attempt to clarify that vagueness).
Post by: jorma on October 28, 2022, 09:32:58 AM
Parts of Twitter are apparently quite mad about this vicious anti-Asian racism from The Daily Show in the middle of the most dangerous time to ever be Asian:
https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1584923487319121920spoiler (click to show/hide)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgGCC9NWAAg1vmj?format=png&name=small)[close]
First trevor noah, then james from the bore.com and now this, honestly i think 'muricans should be banned from talking about race in europe, because it's probably going to end up being racist :lol
Post by: paprikastaude on October 28, 2022, 09:41:24 AM
Parts of Twitter are apparently quite mad about this vicious anti-Asian racism from The Daily Show in the middle of the most dangerous time to ever be Asian:
https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1584923487319121920spoiler (click to show/hide)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgGCC9NWAAg1vmj?format=png&name=small)[close]
:info
Is this where woke humour is going? Because it's terrible.
"How come I don't feel represented :gurl ??" /rimshot
Post by: Himu on October 28, 2022, 09:52:26 AM
Post by: Uncle on October 28, 2022, 01:01:11 PM
facebook boomer content
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 28, 2022, 01:35:46 PM
https://twitter.com/MattZeitlin/status/1585671467970215936 (https://twitter.com/MattZeitlin/status/1585671467970215936)
:yeshrug
tbf i bet he isn't the first or last highly successful artist to consider doing that just to see if they can get away with it :yeshrug
Post by: Tasty on October 28, 2022, 03:20:13 PM
https://twitter.com/LilNasX/status/1585054981270687745
I want to do this. :lol
Post by: Nintex on October 29, 2022, 05:01:40 AM
:aloy
Post by: HardcoreRetro on October 29, 2022, 05:23:33 AM
What's the short called? Oink?
Post by: Himu on October 29, 2022, 07:28:40 AM
Post by: Uncle on October 29, 2022, 04:37:51 PM
Post by: Nintex on October 29, 2022, 06:19:24 PM
:yeshrug
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 29, 2022, 07:37:04 PM
https://twitter.com/DillardVicki/status/1586346869139001344 (https://twitter.com/DillardVicki/status/1586346869139001344)Something tells me he has nothing to worry about...
:yeshrug
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 29, 2022, 07:41:52 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/WestSubEver/comments/ygjg17/ye_postgame_interview_pt_3_compares_himself_to/?utm_term=2083631083&utm_medium=post_embed&utm_source=embed&utm_name=&utm_content=header
:dead
A literal list of Jews. Wild.
Post by: Himu on October 29, 2022, 07:55:55 PM
Post by: Nintex on October 29, 2022, 08:09:23 PM
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 29, 2022, 08:15:34 PM
Post by: benjipwns on October 29, 2022, 08:26:35 PM
My first reaction was hold on Bezos isn't Jewish. But after some google searches that may have put me on an FBI watch list, apparently these bozos believe that Bezos and others are initiated into Judaism on some Bohemian Grove shit.You think Jorgensen is just some common Danish name, it's really deep secret Jewish because Frederick III allowed the Sepharadim or "Hispanic" Jews to come to the Kingdom, you'll note that Bezos is the name of his Cuban-American step-father also a Hispanic, if you'll turn to page 356 in the pamphlet you'll see this chart...
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 29, 2022, 08:33:19 PM
Post by: Boredfrom on October 30, 2022, 01:09:57 PM
https://twitter.com/DillardVicki/status/1586346869139001344 (https://twitter.com/DillardVicki/status/1586346869139001344)
:yeshrug
That comment was promoted in reddit by just 1 random user in any sub it allowed to post it. I discovered by accident just searching about Kanye last meltdown.
Then the alt righters bitch about manufactured controversies ::) .
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 30, 2022, 02:47:56 PM
:wut
Post by: Uncle on October 30, 2022, 06:54:40 PM
Post by: Boredfrom on October 30, 2022, 07:23:41 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/vpdFG2D.png)
Being fair, there is a lot of people that will want to actually educate you about progressive stuff. The reactionaries are usually the ones that don’t want to bother because they are as clueless as the average person.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 30, 2022, 07:24:11 PM
Post by: Nintex on October 30, 2022, 08:43:33 PM
This was especially ridiculous during the COVID Pandemic. "We're not telling you important medical information unless you pay $10 a month"
In the other side you will get articles, podcasts, interviews, books and newsletters and most of it for free across a variety of channels.
You want to stream CNN as they cover an important live event? You can't on YouTube.
You want to hear what the leader of NATO has to say? Here's a 3 second soundbyte from a 3 hour interview. You didn't see the clip on Twitter? Sorry you missed it.
You want to hear Tulsi's take? Here's a 4 hour podcast with Joe Rogan. Russell Brand's reaction video of that same podcast, Jimmy Dore's summary of that same podcast, Tulsi's own reaction to the podcast, Tucker's segment on the podcast etc. .
Post by: Boredfrom on October 30, 2022, 09:20:34 PM
Post by: Himu on October 31, 2022, 07:55:49 PM
:lol :lol :lol
Post by: benjipwns on October 31, 2022, 08:02:46 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 31, 2022, 09:02:12 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 01, 2022, 12:36:49 PM
https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1587404847065743360
Post by: Nintex on November 01, 2022, 03:38:00 PM
:wut
Post by: Uncle on November 01, 2022, 03:49:47 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 01, 2022, 04:22:50 PM
:wut
That's the issue they have with the concept? :steel
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 01, 2022, 10:34:57 PM
The review, the twitter responses...garbage.
Post by: benjipwns on November 01, 2022, 10:44:57 PM
The review, the twitter responses...garbage.https://twitter.com/sellmeagod/status/1585462010623434752
Post by: benjipwns on November 01, 2022, 10:46:33 PM
https://twitter.com/magiciansbook/status/1585674682170310658
https://twitter.com/magiciansbook/status/1585699479243595778
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 02, 2022, 08:58:38 AM
Post by: Polident Hive on November 02, 2022, 11:42:29 PM
Is something in the water. Is it the weather. What’s going on.
Post by: benjipwns on November 02, 2022, 11:44:30 PM
Post by: benjipwns on November 03, 2022, 12:39:31 AM
https://twitter.com/MeCrystalStar/status/1587613294793293824
https://twitter.com/GamingSylvanus/status/1587970263270006785
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/pavroquefort/status/1588011920321572864
https://twitter.com/c0untr1r0ck3r/status/1587984794243289088
https://twitter.com/zillawatcher1/status/1587970032306294784
https://twitter.com/ErinArbour9/status/1587995925867380736
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgmAuFjXkAEwSlc?format=png&name=900x900)
https://twitter.com/c0untr1r0ck3r/status/1587984794243289088
https://twitter.com/zillawatcher1/status/1587970032306294784
https://twitter.com/ErinArbour9/status/1587995925867380736
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgmAuFjXkAEwSlc?format=png&name=900x900)
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Post by: benjipwns on November 03, 2022, 01:08:04 AM
https://twitter.com/1FoxtrotCharlie/status/1587910161435594753
https://twitter.com/Eestifella/status/1587879974618337281
https://twitter.com/HRHTish/status/1587873813966245888
https://twitter.com/1FoxtrotCharlie/status/1587898862873681921
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 03, 2022, 12:28:05 PM
I'm really trying to understand why someone would make a tweet like this. Like clearly the problem is that journalists are targeted, not that 1/10 of them are women?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 03, 2022, 12:31:51 PM
https://twitter.com/PabloTorre/status/1587111930350682116
Is something in the water. Is it the weather. What’s going on.
Hitler. Jesse Owens hater. Forced sterilizer of black Germans. Friend of the black man.
Post by: Uncle on November 03, 2022, 12:37:20 PM
I'm really trying to understand why someone would make a tweet like this. Like clearly the problem is that journalists are targeted, not that 1/10 of them are women?
look, when people name a specific demographic that needs help and all you can come back with is ALL lives matter...
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 03, 2022, 01:33:05 PM
I'm really trying to understand why someone would make a tweet like this. Like clearly the problem is that journalists are targeted, not that 1/10 of them are women?
look, when people name a specific demographic that needs help and all you can come back with is ALL lives matter...
https://twitter.com/tragicbirdapp/status/1588215743656579072
:doge
Post by: BIONIC on November 03, 2022, 01:36:20 PM
Post by: BIONIC on November 03, 2022, 01:37:15 PM
The only way that UN tweet makes any sense is if the percentage of dead women journalists vs overall women journalists is orders of magnitude higher than the men equivalent. I have a feeling it isn’t though, but who knows?
I’m on the wrong side of herstory now, aren’t I? :existential
Post by: benjipwns on November 03, 2022, 06:40:32 PM
Post by: Nintex on November 03, 2022, 07:25:57 PM
𝐓𝐀𝐑𝐆𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍𝐆
𝐖𝐎𝐌𝐄𝐍
𝐉𝐎𝐔𝐑𝐍𝐀𝐋𝐈𝐒𝐓𝐒
Glad I stopped my UN/UNICEF donations. Probably the worst decision of my life to fund that racket.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 03, 2022, 08:27:10 PM
Post by: benjipwns on November 03, 2022, 09:25:27 PM
Post by: james on November 03, 2022, 09:39:26 PM
Post by: benjipwns on November 03, 2022, 09:46:30 PM
I dont know who Kyrie Irving is and at this point Im too afraid to askBasically imagine if Ye was a basketball player.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 03, 2022, 09:57:03 PM
https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/1588293370018811904
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on November 03, 2022, 10:11:02 PM
It made me smile.
One for his mom who I know is open minded. Two cause they are expressing themselves.
Then I come into all the pungent posts from himu. You need to reevaluate yourself. You're a monster you don't recognize.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on November 03, 2022, 10:35:26 PM
Post by: benjipwns on November 03, 2022, 10:53:49 PM
And you don't get to say shit about these people. You shut the fuck up and live in your own box.Come over to Twitter where there's free speech now (MSRP: $8) and say that to my face. :bolo
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on November 03, 2022, 11:00:12 PM
And you don't get to say shit about these people. You shut the fuck up and live in your own box.Come over to Twitter where there's free speech now (MSRP: $8) and say that to my face. :bolo
I will fight you every day of the day if you tell me someone can't be who they are.
I will also just fight you for fun,
Post by: Potato on November 04, 2022, 03:22:10 AM
Can I buy a ticket? I hear the going rate is $8And you don't get to say shit about these people. You shut the fuck up and live in your own box.Come over to Twitter where there's free speech now (MSRP: $8) and say that to my face. :bolo
I will fight you every day of the day if you tell me someone can't be who they are.
I will also just fight you for fun,
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 04, 2022, 10:51:00 AM
So tired of the nonstop attempts to pathologize black men and make a story about two anti-semites into a general indictment of "some black men."
Post by: benjipwns on November 04, 2022, 08:56:28 PM
Post by: Propagandhim on November 04, 2022, 11:18:47 PM
Didn't know where else to put this
Post by: benjipwns on November 04, 2022, 11:24:36 PM
Post by: Potato on November 05, 2022, 02:11:03 AM
Post by: archnemesis on November 05, 2022, 04:47:28 AM
Although, my understanding is that HIV, when controlled with medication, is pretty much a non-issue these days.
A quick Google search will tell you that's wrong.
Quote from: The Internet
The virus may never become fatal, but it can have a significant impact on your life and health. One study showed that people with HIV live 16 fewer years in good health than people who don't have the virus.
HIV medicine has definitely improved a lot in the last ~40 years, but it's still very much a virus that you want to avoid catching.
Post by: Potato on November 05, 2022, 05:34:26 AM
Post by: benjipwns on November 05, 2022, 07:11:47 PM
Most definitely. Should probably avoid COVID too though and any other virus/disease.Let's not get crazy now.
Post by: benjipwns on November 06, 2022, 04:53:29 PM
Post by: Himu on November 06, 2022, 05:21:05 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 06, 2022, 09:24:30 PM
Post by: Himu on November 06, 2022, 09:42:00 PM
https://twitter.com/SophiaNarwitz/status/1589256001630638080
(https://i.imgur.com/SxQE4K6.jpg)
Post by: benjipwns on November 06, 2022, 09:44:12 PM
"CONTENT WARNING: This shot may kill another player's character."
Post by: Uncle on November 06, 2022, 09:48:07 PM
Call of Duty should have a literal trigger warning every time you pull the trigger.
"CONTENT WARNING: This shot may kill another player's character."
I would play this ironically
content warning: the game
you walk off a ledge, "caution: the next few seconds may cause discomfort in those with acrophobia or vertigo. are you sure you wish to continue?"
Post by: Himu on November 06, 2022, 10:27:52 PM
https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1589360135428009984
https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1589361362807197696
Post by: benjipwns on November 06, 2022, 10:32:03 PM
Should I see what if anything Walsh tweeted about Daryl Morey?
Post by: Himu on November 06, 2022, 10:34:44 PM
Post by: benjipwns on November 08, 2022, 09:23:00 PM
Post by: benjipwns on November 08, 2022, 09:24:44 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhA26xmWIAAWx7R?format=jpg&name=small)
Post by: BIONIC on November 08, 2022, 09:40:20 PM
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on November 09, 2022, 03:35:51 AM
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on November 09, 2022, 01:25:18 PM
e:
oh, apparently I can
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG2IPRr--nM
Post by: Uncle on November 09, 2022, 01:28:30 PM
Post by: benjipwns on November 10, 2022, 11:29:26 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 12, 2022, 07:27:38 AM
Post by: benjipwns on November 12, 2022, 05:29:59 PM
Narcissism.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 12, 2022, 05:48:33 PM
"the inevitable moment when it hits you that no part of the story had been imagined with you in mind"
Narcissism.
That feeling when James Joyce wrote Ulysses just for me :ego
Post by: Nintex on November 13, 2022, 07:34:01 AM
Post by: Himu on November 13, 2022, 07:08:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m-gO0HSCYk:dead
Such good storytelling.
Post by: Tasty on November 14, 2022, 10:51:43 AM
Speaking of Ye
https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/1588293370018811904
I remember trying the "going silent for attention" thing when I was 8. I think I lasted 2 hours.
Post by: Tuckers Law on November 14, 2022, 01:59:54 PM
I love that he ended it with that last bit.
But seriously though, I hope he gets the help he needs.
Post by: benjipwns on November 14, 2022, 07:21:03 PM
https://twitter.com/GayLaVie/status/1592001818615513088
:dead :dead :dead :dead
spoiler (click to show/hide)
:jeb
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Post by: Potato on November 14, 2022, 10:12:06 PM
Moral of the story: Don't do shit for other people.
Post by: Uncle on November 14, 2022, 10:48:52 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 15, 2022, 06:11:54 PM
Post by: benjipwns on November 15, 2022, 07:10:37 PM
Post by: benjipwns on November 15, 2022, 08:15:46 PM
Post by: Propagandhim on November 15, 2022, 08:27:24 PM
Post by: Potato on November 16, 2022, 02:16:23 AM
https://twitter.com/ClipsAnon/status/1591496205539987457White progressive terminally online women are the worst combination
Post by: D3RANG3D on November 16, 2022, 06:01:52 PM
Post by: benjipwns on November 16, 2022, 07:15:15 PM
https://twitter.com/nicholasdeorio/status/1592527745757884416
Post by: Propagandhim on November 16, 2022, 08:25:09 PM
Post by: Potato on November 16, 2022, 09:31:47 PM
DEFCON 3 TIME:I think you'll find its actually DEATHCON3
https://twitter.com/nicholasdeorio/status/1592527745757884416
Post by: D3RANG3D on November 17, 2022, 05:07:23 AM
Post by: benjipwns on November 18, 2022, 08:43:37 PM
https://twitter.com/MahyarTousi/status/1592904128967020544
https://twitter.com/MahyarTousi/status/1592904144658247681
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/AsiaAnalyst47/status/1593067375548862466
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Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 18, 2022, 09:24:15 PM
Post by: Potato on November 18, 2022, 09:30:54 PM
Post by: benjipwns on November 18, 2022, 09:53:40 PM
It's a sign of respect in Western culture too but that just makes it extra gross to these racial separatists. Since it's coming up the Thanksgiving stuff reminds me of this. They can't overlook what they see as an antagonistic relationship between the oppressor "settlers" and the oppressed "natives" based on their current cultural mores steeped in knowledge of select events that came after that involved other people. But the story of the American Thanksgiving is about their shared humanity. The Wampanoag helped strange humans they did not know and the Pilgrims accepted the assistance of strange humans they did not know. Our superior morals tell us that the Indians especially should have ignored their lived experience and said "NAH, FUCK THEM TRUMPERS, this is our culture they should get their own."
Post by: Potato on November 18, 2022, 10:09:43 PM
The shirt thing has been a G20 tradition for years. Idiots.My bad, the shirt thing is an APEC tradition
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/hayesbrown/project-runway-apec-edition
Post by: benjipwns on November 18, 2022, 11:28:40 PM
Quote from: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/08/sports/ncaabasketball/olivia-dunne-haley-jones-endorsements.html
Female college athletes are making millions thanks to their large social media followings. But some who have fought for equity in women’s sports worry that their brand building is regressive.
...
But the new flood of money — and the way many female athletes are attaining it — troubles some who have fought for equitable treatment in women’s sports and say that it rewards traditional feminine desirability over athletic excellence. And while the female athletes I spoke to said they were consciously deciding whether to play up or down their sexuality, some observers say that the market is dictating that choice.
Andrea Geurin, a researcher of sports business at Loughborough University in England, studied female athletes trying to make the Rio Olympics in 2016, many of them American collegians. “One of the big themes that came out is the pressure that they felt to post suggestive or sexy photos of themselves” on social media, Geurin said.
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Stanford’s Tara VanDerveer, one of the most successful coaches in women’s college basketball, sees the part of the N.I.L. revolution that focuses on beauty as regressive for female athletes. VanDerveer started coaching in 1978, a virtual eon before the popularization of the internet and social media, but she said the technology was upholding old sexist notions.
“I guess sometimes we have this swinging pendulum, where we maybe take two steps forward, and then we take a step back. We’re fighting for all the opportunities to compete, to play, to have resources, to have facilities, to have coaches, and all the things that go with Olympic-caliber athletics.”
“This is a step back,” she added.
Race cannot be ignored as part of the dynamic. A majority of the most successful female moneymakers are white. Sexual orientation can’t be ignored, either. Few of the top earners openly identify as gay, and many post suggestive images of themselves that seem to cater to the male gaze.
The part of the story for the sicko degenerates who will use Google to direct their male gaze
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Olivia Dunne is a gymnast on Louisiana State’s women’s team.
She was an all-American in her freshman year and made the Southeastern Conference’s honor roll as a sophomore majoring in interdisciplinary studies.
Ahead of the start of her junior season, Dunne is also at the leading edge of a movement shaking the old foundations of college sports: a female student athlete raking in cash thanks to the passage in 2021 of new rules allowing college athletes to sign name, image and likeness, or N.I.L., deals.
Dunne, 20, won’t give specifics on her earnings, which at least one industry analyst projects will top $2 million over the next year.
“Seven figures,” she said. “That is something I’m proud of. Especially since I’m a woman in college sports.” She added: “There are no professional leagues for most women’s sports after college.”
Dunne, a petite blonde with a bright smile and a gymnast’s toned physique, earns a staggering amount by posting to her eight-million strong internet following on Instagram and TikTok, platforms on which she intersperses sponsored content modeling American Eagle Outfitters jeans and Vuori activewear alongside videos of her lip syncing popular songs or performing trending dances.
To Dunne, and many other athletes of her generation, being candid and flirty and showing off their bodies in ways that emphasize traditional notions of female beauty on social media are all empowering.
“It’s just about showing as much or as little as you want,” Dunne said of her online persona.
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Post by: benjipwns on November 20, 2022, 12:01:10 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fh6qtzdVIAAsIlA?format=jpg)https://twitter.com/IBJIYONGI/status/1594068091893420032
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fh6qtzYVUAI5aYv?format=jpg)
https://twitter.com/IBJIYONGI/status/1594069099877109761
Post by: benjipwns on November 20, 2022, 12:18:28 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhyRUpEX0AEiheC?format=jpg&name=small)
Post by: Nintex on November 20, 2022, 07:33:40 AM
:wut
Post by: BIONIC on November 20, 2022, 09:06:43 AM
I know what I’m joining soon :sicko
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 20, 2022, 09:42:25 AM
https://twitter.com/Choiaeivor/status/1594236991113400320
Post by: Uncle on November 20, 2022, 11:10:12 AM
Post by: benjipwns on November 20, 2022, 03:04:30 PM
twitter.com/Choiaeivor/status/1594234165628932097Seriously, women, why even do something if it's not funny and new to this day and age?
twitter.com/Choiaeivor/status/1594236991113400320
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Post by: benjipwns on November 20, 2022, 03:27:52 PM
https://twitter.com/VVVFede/status/1594332337084530688
Post by: Potato on November 20, 2022, 11:39:27 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 21, 2022, 10:43:46 AM
https://twitter.com/Choiaeivor/status/1594234165628932097
Korean feminists are something else
https://twitter.com/JasminDarnell/status/1594653818679365632
Post by: Himu on November 21, 2022, 03:15:50 PM
Post by: james on November 21, 2022, 03:20:26 PM
Fuck the fuck off
Post by: Himu on November 21, 2022, 03:22:04 PM
That said I deleted it to avoid any sensitivity.
Post by: james on November 21, 2022, 04:35:51 PM
Post by: Nintex on November 21, 2022, 05:57:49 PM
Post by: benjipwns on November 21, 2022, 06:21:08 PM
Korean feminists are something elseFor all the interest in witchcraft among Western leftists/feminists there is a distinct lack of issuing public curses so I appreciate this kind of thing.
twitter.com/JasminDarnell/status/1594653818679365632
Post by: D3RANG3D on November 22, 2022, 11:59:17 AM
:woody
Post by: Himu on November 22, 2022, 12:59:58 PM
https://twitter.com/binnahar85/status/1594764842220617728 (https://twitter.com/binnahar85/status/1594764842220617728)
Based Qatar and based tweet.
Really ties into American exceptionalism and selfishness. Like the Britney Griner situation. Goes to a foreign country with weed and expects the law to not apply to her. This is why liberalism is a forcing of culture onto all of society, no matter what it is: a pathetic, putrid monoculture. Doesn't matter whether the subject is Covid Policy, to respecting the laws and beliefs of foreign lands. Modern liberals and progressives do not espouse their ideology out of so-called tolerance, or else they'd tolerate views they disagree with. It's about ideological apartheid: separation and outright disdain of anything they deem declasse.
This also strikes into the heart of liberal mediocrity: you're never faced with consequences. Someone can fly to Russia with weed in their bag and think they can get off because they're rich and famous. Someone can go to an Islamic country with Pride flag and be shocked when they're denied entry. Someone can murder and steal and be turned into a victim that faces "white supremacist" forces despite willingly choosing to steal or kill or sell drugs in a society with endless legal options. Nope, he's the true victim. Liberals breeds a mediocre, weak society.
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on November 22, 2022, 01:41:26 PM
Really ties into American exceptionalism and selfishness. Like the Britney Griner situation. Goes to a foreign country with weed and expects the law to not apply to her. This is why liberalism is a forcing of culture onto all of society, no matter what it is: a pathetic, putrid monoculture. Doesn't matter whether the subject is Covid Policy, to respecting the laws and beliefs of foreign lands. Modern liberals and progressives do not espouse their ideology out of so-called tolerance, or else they'd tolerate views they disagree with. It's about ideological apartheid: separation and outright disdain of anything they deem declasse.
This also strikes into the heart of liberal mediocrity: you're never faced with consequences. Someone can fly to Russia with weed in their bag and think they can get off because they're rich and famous. Someone can go to an Islamic country with Pride flag and be shocked when they're denied entry. Someone can murder and steal and be turned into a victim that faces "white supremacist" forces despite willingly choosing to steal or kill or sell drugs in a society with endless legal options. Nope, he's the true victim. Liberals breeds a mediocre, weak society.
again; I don't think you understand what liberalism means, or attribute it to people who themselves would spit on what liberalism stands for.
A tenet of liberalism is that eevryone should be equal under the law, so tough shit if you're a famous sports personality and think that gets you a free pass.
A tenet of liberalism is freedom of religion, so tough shit if you think what you believe gives you the right to freely shit on what someone else believes and expect them to accommodate that.
Post by: Himu on November 22, 2022, 01:54:35 PM
Moreover, American liberals and progressives claim to hate colonizing and imperialism. But isn't pushing your worldview on to the rest of the world a form of it?
What is the difference between Britain forcing all of the world to bend their knees to their Queen and to their Triune God and what they're doing now? It's just imperialism of another form and like the one of the past its presented through the form of moral righteousness.
Let's be clear.
The reason so much of the opposition are gritting our teeth and holding back on these issues is because American progs and American wider culture are trying to force us all to think one way.
Let's be clear again. Homosexuals have faced insane and horrific dehumanizing acts throughout history. Alan Turing was chemically castrated for nothing more than being a homosexual. Yet over time people saw that this treatment was wrong and awful. No one forced society to think what happened to Turing was wrong. We as a society grew. Why won't they allow the rest of the world the same grace?
Similarly, as an ideological contrast, America routinely pushes the idea of spreading Democracy to other nations through our might, our technological magic, our bullets, and our nukes. Progressives are utterly correct in their characterization of America as bullies that Lord over the world with a gun behind its head while claiming the virtues of the freedom of We The People.
America wasn't thrust upon or forces to into the Republic that it is. It came to be that way through a bunch of heads getting together and trying to find a new way. Our values of liberty and democracy and a representative Republic are legitimate and would be better argued through our example rather than force. By extension, progs would find more success in getting people that disagree with them by showing why they're right by example through slow social change rather than deeming everyone and everything change overnight much like a caustic American shell blowing up an Arab village on the pretense of so-called Freedom.
As it is, the future that progressives say they want everyone to have is the same old western colonization with a different name. The only difference being that the warfare is fought with control of thought rather than bombs and Agent Orange.
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on November 22, 2022, 02:19:57 PM
Pretty much every other ideological starting point is "I have the authority of being 100% right about everything and the One True Faith, and if anyone comes round here saying any different, chase them off or beat them the fuck out, but definitely don't listen to a fucking word they say because its all horseshit, especially anything that contradicts what I say, being 100% right about everything all the time".
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on November 22, 2022, 02:22:08 PM
Post by: Himu on November 22, 2022, 02:25:16 PM
What then do you define woke if they are not liberal? That's what they claim themselves as. If not that, they claim to be progressive. What word am I to use when describing them?
Post by: Nintex on November 22, 2022, 02:30:02 PM
Putin and Erdogan call themselves 'liberal' and so does Lula.
Just like the word Nazi it has no real meaning anymore.
Post by: Himu on November 22, 2022, 02:32:56 PM
I'll have to read up on this. It may cause me to be more charitable towards the word. If someone like Putin can use it, I can't clearly can't paint with such a broader brush. I will have to reconsider how I address my opponents.
Post by: Occam on November 22, 2022, 02:42:42 PM
I will have to reconsider how I address my opponents.
How about "sane people"?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on November 22, 2022, 02:58:51 PM
You are attacking the definition of words rather than my overall message. I do not have time to play Dictionary, though. I do not blame you, however. You are clearly an oldschool liberal and merely on the defensive defending what you believe in. I do not see it being done out of malice but defensiveness.
What then do you define woke if they are not liberal? That's what they claim themselves as. If not that, they claim to be progressive. What word am I to use when describing them?
The people you are complaining about - as in culture warriors from the left rather than the right - would probably describe themselves as leftists, progressives or "allies".
They also say shit like "scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds" because they are not and wouldn't describe themselves as liberals, and see tolerance of other people holding viewpoints as implicitly accepting and condoning those viewpoints and a sign of weakness in the classic "with us or against us" mentality.
That's not to say that liberals won't and don't actually condone illiberal actions - eg something like racial diversity quotas as a protection against the tyranny of the majority, but they would not describe that in terms of the recipients being better or worse than non-recipients, but in pragmatic terms that sometimes small injustices are needed to outweigh bigger injustices.
Anyone pushing for the removal of rights of others because those others hold views they disagree with are inherently not liberal, regardless of what they call themselves.
Post by: Himu on November 22, 2022, 03:40:22 PM
You are attacking the definition of words rather than my overall message. I do not have time to play Dictionary, though. I do not blame you, however. You are clearly an oldschool liberal and merely on the defensive defending what you believe in. I do not see it being done out of malice but defensiveness.
What then do you define woke if they are not liberal? That's what they claim themselves as. If not that, they claim to be progressive. What word am I to use when describing them?
The people you are complaining about - as in culture warriors from the left rather than the right - would probably describe themselves as leftists, progressives or "allies".
They also say shit like "scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds" because they are not and wouldn't describe themselves as liberals, and see tolerance of other people holding viewpoints as implicitly accepting and condoning those viewpoints and a sign of weakness in the classic "with us or against us" mentality.
That's not to say that liberals won't and don't actually condone illiberal actions - eg something like racial diversity quotas as a protection against the tyranny of the majority, but they would not describe that in terms of the recipients being better or worse than non-recipients, but in pragmatic terms that sometimes small injustices are needed to outweigh bigger injustices.
Anyone pushing for the removal of rights of others because those others hold views they disagree with are inherently not liberal, regardless of what they call themselves.
I agree. But Benji gets on me when I call them leftists.
Post by: james on November 22, 2022, 05:30:47 PM
Chelsea Albritton
6 reviews
7 months ago
I left that review because I came in and saw 3 roaches huddled together. Maybe they were praying, who knows lol.
Response from the owner a year ago
Part of the woke community that is discriminating against me for my Christian faith.
Dennis Manske
1 star
Response from the owner a year ago
Dennis has left us RAVE reviews in the past. Recently, Dennis doesn’t like the fact the we are a Christian owned business (Dennis is an atheists) and that we stand for traditional biblical values so he leave us vulgar messages and one star reviews to make himself feel like he has a sense of superiority.
:doge :doge :doge :doge
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Post by: benjipwns on November 22, 2022, 06:04:17 PM
I agree. But Benji gets on me when I call them leftists.I'm not sure what exactly this refers to but I assume it was something like pointing out that Biden and Hochul are not the "left" of the Democratic Party and that self-proclaimed leftists attack them as moderates/centrists/right-wing/etc. as I have no problem with referring to social studies warriors as being on the left since that's where they place themselves even if they reject every supposed ideal of the left. (As regarding this definitional discussion above I tend to only consider the self-identification purposes of this as I of course find the traditional left-right spectrum to be completely nonsensical.)
Post by: benjipwns on November 22, 2022, 11:14:14 PM
Post by: Himu on November 23, 2022, 12:50:58 AM
https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1594550575383072770
https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1594483876927152128
Post by: Himu on November 23, 2022, 01:09:56 AM
I agree. But Benji gets on me when I call them leftists.I'm not sure what exactly this refers to but I assume it was something like pointing out that Biden and Hochul are not the "left" of the Democratic Party and that self-proclaimed leftists attack them as moderates/centrists/right-wing/etc. as I have no problem with referring to social studies warriors as being on the left since that's where they place themselves even if they reject every supposed ideal of the left. (As regarding this definitional discussion above I tend to only consider the self-identification purposes of this as I of course find the traditional left-right spectrum to be completely nonsensical.)
I don't recall. I just remember you saying the Democratic Party aren't leftists but they sure act like it in certain pockets which is why I called them that
Post by: benjipwns on November 23, 2022, 01:33:12 AM
Post by: Nintex on November 23, 2022, 07:26:05 AM
It's like the sacking of constantinople by mehmed the conquerer
Post by: benjipwns on November 27, 2022, 03:16:27 AM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 27, 2022, 01:19:56 PM
Post by: Nintex on November 27, 2022, 03:51:11 PM
:anhuld
Post by: Nintex on November 28, 2022, 03:53:35 AM
J E S U S
Post by: Nintex on November 28, 2022, 06:07:43 PM
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1597318234348609537 (https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1597318234348609537)
Post by: Uncle on November 28, 2022, 07:14:11 PM
if not, suppose you as a farmer take the buyout and use the money to start another farm (it's the only job you know after all)?
Post by: james on November 28, 2022, 09:40:41 PM
does the government block the creation of new farms, like you can't suddenly decide to go in your backyard and start a garden and sell the produce
if not, suppose you as a farmer take the buyout and use the money to start another farm (it's the only job you know after all)?
Have you been to the netherland? its like 7 properties wide by 9 tall.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 28, 2022, 10:16:03 PM
https://twitter.com/theserfstv/status/1597405484054876160
Post by: james on November 28, 2022, 10:55:49 PM
Post by: benjipwns on November 28, 2022, 10:56:33 PM
Somehow Kanye West ended up going to Tim pool and somehow it ended with Kanye storming out because Pool didn't want to blame "the Jews"My feel when no forthcoming Ye collab:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOfvaUwWi2k
:fbm
Post by: james on November 28, 2022, 11:00:17 PM
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on November 28, 2022, 11:09:14 PM
Is Tim Pool bald? Whats with the hat. Someone pull it off
he has to keep his brain heated otherwise 100% of the stupid shit comes out.
Post by: benjipwns on November 28, 2022, 11:14:18 PM
Is Tim Pool bald? Whats with the hat. Someone pull it offHe wears the hat to conceal his identity so his life isn't put in danger during all his risk taking, it's like you know absolutely nothing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBdHo8svLkI
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Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on November 28, 2022, 11:20:52 PM
Post by: james on November 28, 2022, 11:58:23 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 29, 2022, 12:25:28 PM
https://twitter.com/JoshuaConkel/status/1597293994366468098
Post by: Nintex on November 29, 2022, 01:34:36 PM
Somehow Kanye West ended up going to Tim pool and somehow it ended with Kanye storming out because Pool didn't want to blame "the Jews"
https://twitter.com/theserfstv/status/1597405484054876160
(https://i.imgflip.com/72j6dj.jpg)
does the government block the creation of new farms, like you can't suddenly decide to go in your backyard and start a garden and sell the produceIf they take the money and close up shop they're not allowed to start a new farm.
if not, suppose you as a farmer take the buyout and use the money to start another farm (it's the only job you know after all)?
Basically the Rabobank pushed the farmers to 'expand' and 'scale' by taking on loans to buy 'cheap land' from local governments or buy out their less automated competitors.
In little over a decade they turned small local family farms into intensive industrial farms.
The farmers were also pushed with subsidies to create 'nature zones' in between their farmland for wildlife.
Now they're being evicted from their farms because these 'nature zones' (that they themselves created) are 'endangered' by the surrounding farmland.
It's not about the farms, it's about the land needed for more housing, data centers, warehouses and logistical centers.
As well as cutting government expenses as the farmers get a lot of subsidies. Overall though this is a disaster for food security.
Post by: james on November 29, 2022, 01:35:26 PM
One of our BRAVE BOYS IN BLUE was cancelled by liberals in California for trying to date a younger woman
https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1597195362263044096
Post by: Nintex on November 29, 2022, 02:08:08 PM
Post by: benjipwns on November 29, 2022, 04:46:06 PM
Post by: benjipwns on November 29, 2022, 05:29:14 PM
Post by: benjipwns on November 29, 2022, 05:33:10 PM
https://twitter.com/EmilBrunner1/status/1597620852962758656
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https://twitter.com/UncoordinatedB/status/1597645661897641984
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Post by: Nintex on November 29, 2022, 06:46:13 PM
https://twitter.com/realchrisrufo/status/1597685095707865089 (https://twitter.com/realchrisrufo/status/1597685095707865089)
Someone got spooked by the Cruise Missile :cruise
Post by: Uncle on November 30, 2022, 12:01:31 AM
https://twitter.com/realchrisrufo/status/1597683598496526338 (https://twitter.com/realchrisrufo/status/1597683598496526338)
https://twitter.com/realchrisrufo/status/1597685095707865089 (https://twitter.com/realchrisrufo/status/1597685095707865089)
Someone got spooked by the Cruise Missile :cruise
more like
https://twitter.com/BriannaWu/status/1595222959827943427
https://twitter.com/leakssoreal/status/1596452968446189568
https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1597362473791008770
Post by: benjipwns on November 30, 2022, 12:11:45 AM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 30, 2022, 11:24:44 AM
Quote
In a BBC lecture on freedom of speech, the writer said young people were growing up "afraid to ask questions for fear of asking the wrong questions".
Such a climate could lead to "the death of curiosity, the death of learning and the death of creativity", the award-winning Nigerian author warned.
"No human endeavour requires freedom as much as creativity does," she added.
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She said literature was increasingly viewed "through ideological rather than artistic lenses".https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-63797087
She continued: "Nothing demonstrates this better than the recent phenomenon of 'sensitivity readers' in the world of publishing, people whose job it is to cleanse unpublished manuscripts of potentially offensive words.
"This, in my mind, negates the very idea of literature."
If any of the books that had "formed and inspired and consoled" her had been censored, "I would perhaps today be lost", she said.
The 45-year-old also expressed concern that some people don't speak up for fear of vicious criticism or becoming the latest target of cancel culture.
"We are all familiar with stories of people who have said or written something and then faced a terrible online backlash," she said.
"There is a difference between valid criticism, which should be part of free expression, and this kind of backlash, ugly personal insults, putting addresses of homes and children's schools online, trying to make people lose their jobs.
"To anyone who thinks, well, some people who have said terrible things deserve it - no. Nobody deserves it. It is unconscionable barbarism. It is a virtual vigilante action whose aim is not just to silence the person who has spoken, but to create a vengeful atmosphere that deters others from speaking."
No lies detected
Post by: Himu on December 01, 2022, 03:08:59 AM
KING SHIT
Post by: Himu on December 01, 2022, 01:01:34 PM
https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1598372387812155392
:facepalm
Oh my Goooood Kanye get help
Post by: Tuckers Law on December 01, 2022, 02:08:26 PM
Kanye saying something so out of pocket that even Alex Jones starts to squirm and feel uncomfortable about it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 01, 2022, 02:19:51 PM
:crazy
Kanye saying something so out of pocket that even Alex Jones starts to squirm and feel uncomfortable about it.
I'm not sure where Kanye can go from here. Maybe some people at a KKK meeting will agree with him
Post by: Nintex on December 01, 2022, 02:57:34 PM
:crazy
Kanye saying something so out of pocket that even Alex Jones starts to squirm and feel uncomfortable about it.
I'm not sure where Kanye can go from here. Maybe some people at a KKK meeting will agree with him
The Republican Primary
Post by: Himu on December 01, 2022, 03:17:31 PM
:crazy
Kanye saying something so out of pocket that even Alex Jones starts to squirm and feel uncomfortable about it.
I'm not sure where Kanye can go from here. Maybe some people at a KKK meeting will agree with him
I really fear he might kill himself
Post by: thetylerrob on December 01, 2022, 04:31:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pw1Sj9rS7g
Post by: Himu on December 01, 2022, 06:20:30 PM
Post by: benjipwns on December 01, 2022, 09:51:22 PM
Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie: Author warns about 'epidemic of self-censorshipKnew I recognized the name of this foaming at the mouth alt-right monster:QuoteIn a BBC lecture on freedom of speech, the writer said young people were growing up "afraid to ask questions for fear of asking the wrong questions".
Such a climate could lead to "the death of curiosity, the death of learning and the death of creativity", the award-winning Nigerian author warned.
"No human endeavour requires freedom as much as creativity does," she added.QuoteShe said literature was increasingly viewed "through ideological rather than artistic lenses".https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-63797087
She continued: "Nothing demonstrates this better than the recent phenomenon of 'sensitivity readers' in the world of publishing, people whose job it is to cleanse unpublished manuscripts of potentially offensive words.
"This, in my mind, negates the very idea of literature."
If any of the books that had "formed and inspired and consoled" her had been censored, "I would perhaps today be lost", she said.
The 45-year-old also expressed concern that some people don't speak up for fear of vicious criticism or becoming the latest target of cancel culture.
"We are all familiar with stories of people who have said or written something and then faced a terrible online backlash," she said.
"There is a difference between valid criticism, which should be part of free expression, and this kind of backlash, ugly personal insults, putting addresses of homes and children's schools online, trying to make people lose their jobs.
"To anyone who thinks, well, some people who have said terrible things deserve it - no. Nobody deserves it. It is unconscionable barbarism. It is a virtual vigilante action whose aim is not just to silence the person who has spoken, but to create a vengeful atmosphere that deters others from speaking."
No lies detected
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Since 2017, Adichie has been repeatedly accused of transphobia, initially for saying that "my feeling is trans women are trans women" in response to the question "Are trans women women?"[82][55] Adichie later clarified her statement, writing: "[p]erhaps I should have said trans women are trans women and cis women are cis women and all are women. Except that 'cis' is not an organic part of my vocabulary. And would probably not be understood by a majority of people. Because saying 'trans' and 'cis' acknowledges that there is a distinction between women born female and women who transition, without elevating one or the other, which was my point. I have and will continue to stand up for the rights of transgender people."[83]Once again we just have FREEZE PEACH warriors wanting to be able to say slurs and make up shit like "cancel culture" because they're really ontologically evil fascists for whom the cruelty is the point.
In 2020, Adichie weighed into "all the noise" sparked by J. K. Rowling's article titled "J.K. Rowling Writes about Her Reasons for Speaking out on Sex and Gender Issues",[84] and called the essay "perfectly reasonable".[85] Adichie again faced accusations of transphobia, some of which came from Nigerian author Akwaeke Emezi, who had graduated from Adichie's writing workshop.[86] In response to the backlash, Adichie criticised cancel culture, saying: "There's a sense in which you aren't allowed to learn and grow. Also forgiveness is out of the question. I find it so lacking in compassion."[84]
In a June 2021 essay titled "It Is Obscene", Adichie again criticised cancel culture, discussing her experiences with two unnamed writers who attended her writing workshop and later lambasted her on social media over comments she made about transgender people. She labelled what she called their "passionate performance of virtue that is well executed in the public space of Twitter but not in the intimate space of friendship" as "obscene".[87][88]
Post by: james on December 01, 2022, 11:57:57 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Pink/status/3967674746
Post by: benjipwns on December 02, 2022, 12:32:43 AM
Post by: Nintex on December 02, 2022, 03:42:11 AM
No one must know hitler invented highways
Post by: james on December 02, 2022, 01:48:04 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 02, 2022, 01:55:27 PM
https://twitter.com/RobertsToHell/status/1598710249845706752
No idea if anyone can help this guy anymore
Post by: james on December 02, 2022, 02:52:36 PM
What an accomplished gentleman. Cant believe he died so young.
Post by: BIONIC on December 02, 2022, 02:54:51 PM
Post by: james on December 02, 2022, 03:03:47 PM
Hitler died?! I didn’t even know he was sick!
Apparently suicide. We really need to do more to help people with depression. So many bright minds lost
Post by: benjipwns on December 02, 2022, 06:58:49 PM
Post by: Himu on December 02, 2022, 07:30:17 PM
Kanye reached the "mentally ill homeless man on subway" stage
https://twitter.com/RobertsToHell/status/1598710249845706752
No idea if anyone can help this guy anymore
This is so sad. I loved his music and shit. MBDTF, College Dropout, Last Reg, and 808s are classics. This is so heartbreaking.
Post by: benjipwns on December 03, 2022, 12:43:56 AM
This is so sad. I loved his music and shit. MBDTF, College Dropout, Last Reg, and 808s are classics. This is so heartbreaking.(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fi6wbVFaUAApeJ9?format=jpg&name=small)
Post by: Tuckers Law on December 03, 2022, 12:51:32 AM
Post by: Himu on December 03, 2022, 02:02:04 AM
Post by: who is ted danson? on December 04, 2022, 03:44:29 PM
:neogaf
Post by: benjipwns on December 04, 2022, 10:45:05 PM
Post by: Nintex on December 05, 2022, 06:04:48 PM
So if Mike Lindell makes an ad buy during the Super Bowl...
Post by: Transhuman on December 05, 2022, 09:26:30 PM
What the fuck Coca Cola
Post by: benjipwns on December 11, 2022, 03:31:30 AM
Post by: benjipwns on December 11, 2022, 03:32:27 AM
Post by: Nintex on December 11, 2022, 05:13:22 AM
What are the odds that the prisoner swapped Merchant of Death and the Lesbian Sports woman are on the opposite sides of the culture war :titus
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 11, 2022, 07:51:38 AM
It's like swapping a charizard card for a fucking jigglypuff, I'd want Snowden at least :phil
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 11, 2022, 08:05:17 AM
Post by: Nintex on December 11, 2022, 09:10:35 AM
It's funny how even a prisoner trade becomes part of the culture war. Republicans seem a little too upset while at the same time democrats seem a little too relaxed about freeing an arms dealer.An arms dealer that completely agrees with the alpha wankdad philosophy and supports gun ownership no less :lol
There were also pictures of Brittney Griner in her Russian prison and everyone was sort of surprised that her conditions weren't the evil Disney empire isolation cell they might expect.
Again this angered both sides because the liberals could not be mad at Russia for treating her badly and the Republicans did not get their expected torture chamber snuff film to show what happens if you are a sinner.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 11, 2022, 01:55:38 PM
Within the first lines the author acknowledges that less than 2% of Argentina's current population are black but then keeps going on. I'm honestly not quite sure about what point it's making
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 11, 2022, 02:30:51 PM
Also as far as I'm aware the difference between white and black and all your racial shit is completely different in South America, apparently (I heard this on a BBC radio show years ago) the original (aka fat) Ronaldo considers himself white and he'd be seen as a black man most other places :elon
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 11, 2022, 02:40:59 PM
Post by: james on December 11, 2022, 03:32:59 PM
Makes you think
Post by: Potato on December 11, 2022, 10:06:08 PM
Every team that has lost so far has had zero trans playersStop erasing the non-binary players. There were none of them either you genocider
Makes you think
Post by: benjipwns on December 12, 2022, 12:22:00 AM
Post by: benjipwns on December 12, 2022, 12:22:59 AM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/ONASICK1NE/status/1601982788852453386
https://twitter.com/fa_roose/status/1601980860235923458
https://twitter.com/fa_roose/status/1601980860235923458
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 12, 2022, 09:36:43 AM
There's a lot of good, diverse fantasy out there by black authors. Asian authors. Indian authors. I know GRRM is exec producing Nnedi Okorafor's Who Fears Death for HBO. Netflix is adapting The Three-Body Problem. Outside of that they're focused entirely on hiring white women show runners to erase various books' plots and add diverse casts. It's almost like it's a deliberate pipeline to give white women exec jobs...
Post by: Nintex on December 12, 2022, 10:41:02 AM
In the end not that many folks had any problems with the casting even though they added some more diversity in a world that had none.
However, Cavill carried the entire thing along with the girl that played Yennefer Vanderberg. If he didn't mimic videogame Geralt to near perfection and made sure the lore was accurate it wouldn't have worked and simply have been a silly fantasy show.
Which I fear is what will happen with the Witcher without him.
It's kinda like doing Death Pool without Reynolds or LOTR without Christopher Lee as Saruman.
Sure, you can find someone else to play the role but you can't replace the knowledge about the source material and effort to get invested into the character.
Especially a world as complex as The Witcher which depends on all sorts of small details.
Post by: james on December 12, 2022, 10:46:25 AM
Post by: NekoFever on December 12, 2022, 11:22:20 AM
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1601001743218778113
Within the first lines the author acknowledges that less than 2% of Argentina's current population are black but then keeps going on. I'm honestly not quite sure about what point it's making
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CORRECTION
Due to an editing error, an earlier version of this piece noted that roughly one percent of the Argentinian population was Black according to a 2010 government released census. While the number of Black people cited was accurate, the percentage was actually far less than one percent and the piece has been amended to state that.
:dead
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 12, 2022, 11:36:33 AM
Described as ‘the flower that no one noticed had poison blooms beneath her thorns’. Intelligent and sharp-minded but hiding behind the mask of a feckless girl. In a patriarchal world, she was raised as a chess piece to be married off and forgotten. Biding her time, she leant how to appear docile, concealing her true intelligence and tactician’s mind in order to strike when no one would expect it. Appears in 6 episodes.
???
Who does this appeal to? Especially in a post-Game Of Thrones era where there's a clear blueprint for how to do this stuff without banging anyone over the head. Arya, Dany, Cersei, etc etc all dealt with that exact issue, often mentioned the sexism they faced (without using that word obviously). This is clearly messaging to viewers. Hey watch this, it's about the issues you care about but there are elves and magic. :doge
I don't get it. You'd think there would be a clear cut push to find the next Game Of Thrones. Strong, multi leveled female characters. Strong, multi leveled male characters. Twists. "Subverting expectations." Magic, preferably with dragons or other creatures. Decent to good writing (S1-4 lol). And a fan base you appreciate to a decent degree.
I think a lot of this boils down to writers who want to make another show, don't have the talent to create anything decent enough to get greenlit, and then attach themselves to an IP where they focus on their own vision instead of whatever the IP is about.
Post by: Nintex on December 12, 2022, 12:00:05 PM
I think a lot of this boils down to writers who want to make another show, don't have the talent to create anything decent enough to get greenlit, and then attach themselves to an IP where they focus on their own vision instead of whatever the IP is about.This seems to be happening a lot throughout pop culture, including video games.
They mostly do it with things that already have a clear identity even though there are many 'blank slates' that won't see as much push back.
Just look at Saints Row. They want to make an open-world soy story knowing it'll never get greenlit, so they take something that exists (Saints Row) and transform it into zoomer land.
But in Need for Speed it works, because it always followed whatever was trending. So making a game based on current fashion and tiktok 'trends' actually makes sense and making it over the top works too (because being over the top fits Need for Speed in general).
The worst offender is of course Star Wars, especially since after they ran it into the ground Disney lined up their actors to blame any criticism on racism, transphobia and bigotry.
With Netflix it is most baffling though because what's trending or being watched on Netflix is not the social issues or current trends at all. Netflix was built on juggernauts like House of Cards, Marvel spin-offs, Scandinavian Crime Dramas and Hollywood blockbusters.
The Witcher was succesful because it matched the game perfectly. Cyberpunk Edgerunners improved on the Cyberpunk universe. But somehow they still insist on doing projects that appeal to no one.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 12, 2022, 01:34:52 PM
I've never seen the Witcher (or played the game) but it's been interesting reading what's happening, post-Henry Cavill's departure for them not giving a shit about the books. Netflix greenlit a prequel show that follows in line with the Rings Of Power approach of throwing the books out the window, filling the cast with diversity and expecting success. I'm not opposed to adding diverse people to these shows. But it's baffling how streaming services keep gobbling up IPs that aren't particularly diverse, adding it, erasing major parts of the books, and then get mad when it bombs.
There's a lot of good, diverse fantasy out there by black authors. Asian authors. Indian authors. I know GRRM is exec producing Nnedi Okorafor's Who Fears Death for HBO. Netflix is adapting The Three-Body Problem. Outside of that they're focused entirely on hiring white women show runners to erase various books' plots and add diverse casts. It's almost like it's a deliberate pipeline to give white women exec jobs...
That's why it so often just feels like lip service. Instead of making an actually diverse project they just cram it into a project that's originally super white, no surprise that this then has a good chance of standing out or making hardcore purist fans mad. It's the same with remakes which are then "remade for a modern audience". How about you make something original for a modern audience? I promise you it's actually going to flow much better with the setting, story etc. It's a bit like wanting your cake and eating it too. You want the hardcore fans, that's why you pick and already proven IP, but then you also want to change that IP to appeal to whatever is trending on twitter right now which then pisses off the hardcore fans. Meanwhile the "Modern audience" might not even care remotely as much as you thought so you end up with something nobody really wanted.
Post by: Nintex on December 12, 2022, 02:28:36 PM
You could actually consider it a sort of anti-Disney with how it portrays these fairy tales as violent and cruel stories.
Even more violent than Game of Thrones. I already found that the Netflix TV show was sort of too PG-13 compared to the game and the book goes far beyond the game in certain areas.
The characters you now see in the marketing materials for the spin-off would not survive in the Witcher world.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 12, 2022, 04:46:27 PM
https://www.cbr.com/worst-written-female-sci-fi-movie-characters/?fbclid=IwAR3wc6mSRI6F0FXI_flYStPJIcIiSp-UQvboAb31nWtAJqat3Jv123OdwHU
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjiotfGVUAIl92p?format=jpg&name=medium)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fjjm0EHXwAADXDU?format=jpg&name=medium)
It's the kind of surface level critic you can apply to anything you want and declare it "problematic"
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 12, 2022, 05:03:52 PM
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 13, 2022, 05:14:36 PM
I've never seen the Witcher (or played the game) but it's been interesting reading what's happening, post-Henry Cavill's departure for them not giving a shit about the books. Netflix greenlit a prequel show that follows in line with the Rings Of Power approach of throwing the books out the window, filling the cast with diversity and expecting success. I'm not opposed to adding diverse people to these shows. But it's baffling how streaming services keep gobbling up IPs that aren't particularly diverse, adding it, erasing major parts of the books, and then get mad when it bombs.
There's a lot of good, diverse fantasy out there by black authors. Asian authors. Indian authors. I know GRRM is exec producing Nnedi Okorafor's Who Fears Death for HBO. Netflix is adapting The Three-Body Problem. Outside of that they're focused entirely on hiring white women show runners to erase various books' plots and add diverse casts. It's almost like it's a deliberate pipeline to give white women exec jobs...
That's why it so often just feels like lip service. Instead of making an actually diverse project they just cram it into a project that's originally super white, no surprise that this then has a good chance of standing out or making hardcore purist fans mad. It's the same with remakes which are then "remade for a modern audience". How about you make something original for a modern audience? I promise you it's actually going to flow much better with the setting, story etc. It's a bit like wanting your cake and eating it too. You want the hardcore fans, that's why you pick and already proven IP, but then you also want to change that IP to appeal to whatever is trending on twitter right now which then pisses off the hardcore fans. Meanwhile the "Modern audience" might not even care remotely as much as you thought so you end up with something nobody really wanted.
It's also a symptom of our current #content consumption practices, where media matters more than art and the comic (or fantasy) character matters more than the actor. If all that matters is an established character then race switching is just a marketing tool. There is no effort to tell a "black story" - it's just a suit saying "if we make Elektra black then you get an interracial relationship with Daredevil and bring in black women viewers."
Post by: headwalk on December 13, 2022, 09:49:02 PM
they've already claimed dancing though tik tok. reducing spontaneous and fluid human expression to a series of programmed automaton movements.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 14, 2022, 08:47:52 AM
Post by: Potato on December 14, 2022, 03:41:02 PM
https://twitter.com/heyyeaitsmeidk/status/1602674095316942854I'm more interested in knowing when people who don't like comedy will stop doing stand-up comedy shows?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on December 14, 2022, 04:50:01 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 14, 2022, 04:50:36 PM
Post by: Potato on December 14, 2022, 05:14:59 PM
Post by: Uncle on December 14, 2022, 06:35:47 PM
White is what?
(https://i.imgur.com/NUUcWc6.png)
Post by: benjipwns on December 14, 2022, 10:23:30 PM
Post by: benjipwns on December 14, 2022, 10:26:29 PM
https://twitter.com/open_sketchbook/status/1602360610393657350
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/open_sketchbook/status/1602382656859250694
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Post by: Nintex on December 16, 2022, 06:09:37 PM
If all you can find on the internet are Nazi's maybe the problem is you and not the platforms Maggie :idont
Post by: benjipwns on December 16, 2022, 06:26:51 PM
Post by: Nintex on December 16, 2022, 06:39:30 PM
I've done my fair bit of Nazi killing but I bet she hasn't even played COD2.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 17, 2022, 01:37:19 PM
It seems obvious they know their show(s) is about to bomb and be cancelled so it's time for the blame game. Netflix doesn't play around with axing shows, and now that they've got some new hit shows I doubt they're going to renew the Witcher prequel of the main series after the seasons that are currently being developed.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on December 17, 2022, 01:50:03 PM
Post by: Nintex on December 17, 2022, 02:24:01 PM
Henry Cavill listens to a noob who hasn't played any of the games but wants to direct the show and put in her 'female empowerment' mary sue soy spin-off story
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Women when Cavill ignores them and leaves the show to play the next-gen Witcher 3 update instead.
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Post by: Potato on December 17, 2022, 02:26:58 PM
Post by: Nintex on December 17, 2022, 02:33:13 PM
Post by: Potato on December 17, 2022, 02:55:13 PM
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 17, 2022, 03:39:21 PM
Post by: Boredfrom on December 17, 2022, 03:43:57 PM
Someone explain to them that he wasn't ignoring them because they were women, he was ignoring them because they were fucking stupid and he was saving the show from a disaster of their making.
Sounds more complicated than that, being fair. It sounds he is difficult to work with regardless. But the disdain of the showrunners to video games kind of shows in that paragraph.
:idont
No wonder Gunn decided it was not worth the time given how awful the backstabbing and pettines already is at DC/Warner.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 17, 2022, 04:16:01 PM
"He got addicted to gaming. Gamer lingo" :doge
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 17, 2022, 04:33:45 PM
Post by: benjipwns on December 17, 2022, 04:47:32 PM
:dead
Post by: Tuckers Law on December 17, 2022, 05:06:09 PM
Post by: Polident Hive on December 17, 2022, 06:17:05 PM
Post by: jorma on December 17, 2022, 06:23:48 PM
True. Henry also said he uses sprays of naked cartoon ladies to distract other players. Once on de_dust2, he initiated a knife fight, but lied and shot the the other player.
pretty sure your mixing up henry with harrison here...
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on December 18, 2022, 03:19:48 PM
"He was deeply addicted to video games... Video game bro language is not how you talk to coworkers. And he wouldn't stop... Like, his whole personality shifted."
:dead
I guess this is why the season 3 arc was going to be about contracting ligma
Post by: who is ted danson? on December 18, 2022, 03:59:19 PM
stfu or i'll get the quad and rail you
Post by: benjipwns on December 19, 2022, 01:59:49 AM
https://twitter.com/Histofafrica/status/1604363126744371201
Post by: D3RANG3D on December 19, 2022, 12:23:11 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://i.imgur.com/GeYZ2JN.jpg)
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Post by: james on December 19, 2022, 12:53:51 PM
Post by: Uncle on December 19, 2022, 01:41:29 PM
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 19, 2022, 03:08:24 PM
Long and somewhat rambling thread but nonetheless an interesting look at the interracial fantasies a lot of intersectional black feminists push. These are people who hate (straight) black men, are obsessed with slave-play fantasies and long for a white boyfriend they can craft into the perfectly obedient ally. And these are the people flooding into academia and ready to discriminate against black boys...
Post by: Potato on December 19, 2022, 03:42:53 PM
I have no fucking idea what any of those words mean.
God I hate Twatter people.
Post by: Polident Hive on December 19, 2022, 09:39:28 PM
If I had to speak to the racial part, simply from observations in media. It’s easier to find five or ten examples of a black woman with a white man rather than a black man with a white woman. What can be said about that, who knows.
Post by: benjipwns on December 19, 2022, 10:56:38 PM
Quote from: https://archive.vn/fHBOK
The Elimination of Harmful Language Initiative (EHLI) is a multi-phase, multi-year project to address harmful language in IT at Stanford. EHLI is one of the actions prioritized in the Statement of Solidarity and Commitment to Action, which was published by the Stanford CIO Council (CIOC) and People of Color in Technology (POC-IT) affinity group in December 2020.Lots of problematic stuff is missing from these tables. :rage
The goal of the Elimination of Harmful Language Initiative is to eliminate* many forms of harmful language, including racist, violent, and biased (e.g., disability bias, ethnic bias, ethnic slurs, gender bias, implicit bias, sexual bias) language in Stanford websites and code.
The purpose of this website is to educate people about the possible impact of the words we use. Language affects different people in different ways. We are not attempting to assign levels of harm to the terms on this site. We also are not attempting to address all informal uses of language.
This website focuses on potentially harmful terms used in the United States, starting with a list of everyday language and terminology.** Our "suggested alternatives" are in line with those used by peer institutions and within the technology community.***
Content Warning: This website contains language that is offensive or harmful. Please engage with this website at your own pace.
* We understand that it may not be possible to eliminate all harmful language on our sites and in our code due to costs, resources, or other reasons. “Eliminate” is a goal to strive for even if it can’t be achieved.
** How a person wishes to be addressed or identified supersedes any of our suggested alternatives for potentially harmful terms. If you are unsure in a given situation, ask the person with whom you are interacting.
*** These are a list of our sources:
Brandeis Suggested Language List
Terminology at XSEDE
Trans Glossary 101
The Colors of Cybersecurity
Offensive/Profane Word List
List of ethnic slurs (Wikipedia)
Inclusive Language Guide
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:social2
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What if I'm submitting for sex purposes? THIS SOUNDS LIKE KINK SHAMING STANFORD! :social
Post by: Transhuman on December 19, 2022, 11:23:06 PM
:pimp
Post by: Nintex on December 20, 2022, 08:59:07 AM
citation needed
preferably footage of the germans shouting hip hip hurray as they hunt down the jews with benny hill music in the background.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 20, 2022, 09:39:04 AM
It's also this weird modern leftist thinking. As if anti-Semitism is fought in any shape at all if we stop saying a phrase that absolutely no one would connect with anti-Semitic feelings when you hear it on the street
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 20, 2022, 09:44:48 AM
Post by: HardcoreRetro on December 20, 2022, 10:48:28 AM
It's also this weird modern leftist thinking. As if anti-Semitism is fought in any shape at all if we stop saying a phrase that absolutely no one would connect with anti-Semitic feelings when you hear it on the street
Words don't change. Now have these Stanford people explain the word woman or female to me.
Post by: Potato on December 20, 2022, 02:04:13 PM
doing a compulsory online course at work thats all woke shite :judgementThose things always have the most ridiculous lengths.
"Expected time for completion:60 minutes."
That sounds like a challenge to me. Let's see if I can do it in 10.
I always skip to the end and just guess the answers.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 20, 2022, 02:35:58 PM
Post by: Nintex on December 20, 2022, 02:44:12 PM
You're meant to think about those things as you read them.doing a compulsory online course at work thats all woke shite :judgementThose things always have the most ridiculous lengths.
"Expected time for completion:60 minutes."
That sounds like a challenge to me. Let's see if I can do it in 10.
I always skip to the end and just guess the answers.
I enjoy this stuff the most when there's an actual coach or person in the room you can drive up the wall with silly questions and metaphors.
My strategy is always the same. First I lean in being the most interested(I can fake this pretty well) of the group and I tell others who say "Bullshit" from the start to be more open minded. :heart
I'm also very interested in the books they're trying to peddle or whatever. Next I do an anime betrayal U-turn and question everything at every turn. :awesome
They hate this because it makes them lose control of the group and the narrative. :lol
"Wow Nintex, that was the perfect example of how to deliver feedback without offending anyone thank you for sharing it with us" :uguu
"Yeah, shame it doesn't actually work that way in real life right?" :trumps
Post by: Potato on December 20, 2022, 03:56:20 PM
https://www.nme.com/en_au/news/music/slaves-announce-return-music-change-name-soft-play-3364624 (https://www.nme.com/en_au/news/music/slaves-announce-return-music-change-name-soft-play-3364624)
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Slaves have confirmed their long-awaited return to music and announced that they will be going by a new name, Soft Play, from now on.
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Around the release of their debut album ‘Are You Satisfied?’ in 2015, the band drew criticism for its name, with some calling it racially insensitive. At the time, the pair defended the moniker to NME, with Vincent saying: “If you pick up an Oxford dictionary and look up the word “slaves”, there is no mention of any racial context.
...
“In this day and age we believe it is very important that people change and make improvements no matter how far down the line they are. The name doesn’t represent who we are as people or what our music stands for any longer. We want to sincerely apologise to anyone we’ve offended.”
Some trash Murdoch paper managed to dig up a juicy quote from an old interview.
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In 2015, the band were featured in a Fader article titled “Why Would A Band Of White Dudes Name Themselves Slaves?”
At the time, Vincent told Fader that he and Holman were surprised by criticism of the band’s name. He explained that they were looking for “an abrasive sounding word, like Clash” when they were tying to come up with a name.
“We just liked the word. We weren’t trying to provoke,” he added.
“Someone once wrote on our Facebook wall, ‘Nobody but African-Americans have a right to use the word slaves.’
“Obviously, lots of words have two meanings — if you said ‘I feel like a slave at work’ or ‘I’m a slave to the routine’, that’s not being disrespectful to the slave trade.
“You have to use words, or you‘re just going to be scared of everything. We live in a society already where people are terrified of the way they act being interpreted, and it’s just getting harder.”
Post by: BIONIC on December 20, 2022, 03:59:44 PM
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We live in a society already where people are terrified of the way they act being interpreted, and it’s just getting harder.
:society
Post by: james on December 20, 2022, 06:03:32 PM
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Cindy Tappe, 57, allegedly diverted $3.5 million intended for women- and minority-owned businesses and for other programs into bank accounts held by two shell companies she created and then used the money to pay personal and luxury expenses, including renovations to her Westport, Connecticut, home, according to the Manhattan District Attorney's Office.
Moreover, Tappe used the High Galaxy and PCM accounts to steal at least $660,000, by using that money to pay her personal expenses, according to the indictment. She used the accounts to pay for home renovations -- including a new $80,000 swimming pool -- and her ordinary living expenses, the indictment said.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/former-new-york-university-finance-director-charged-orchestrating/story?id=95546596
Post by: Nintex on December 20, 2022, 07:04:29 PM
Post by: Uncle on December 20, 2022, 08:00:34 PM
woman establishes a company and claims the money
not seeing the problem here?
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 20, 2022, 08:06:42 PM
:crazy
Post by: Potato on December 20, 2022, 11:26:07 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/VQvO4Ff.png)Wrap this thread up...we're done here.
:crazy
Post by: benjipwns on December 21, 2022, 01:13:58 PM
Those things always have the most ridiculous lengths.I used to think this but then I found out how a lot of people actually do with online stuff, those long time limits are necessary or most people won't finish. The ease of the task is pretty irrelevant to this too.
"Expected time for completion:60 minutes."
That sounds like a challenge to me. Let's see if I can do it in 10.
Post by: Nintex on December 21, 2022, 01:18:57 PM
Thread?(https://i.imgur.com/VQvO4Ff.png)Wrap this thread up...we're done here.
:crazy
Vladimir vladimirovich, time to launch
Post by: benjipwns on December 21, 2022, 03:27:45 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fkarz6vaMAAXTkH?format=jpg&name=small)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fkarz6waEAA7xty?format=jpg&name=small)
Post by: Potato on December 21, 2022, 03:36:59 PM
https://twitter.com/lavern_spicer/status/1604535982778449921This is a culture war thread, not a race war thread Benji
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fkarz6vaMAAXTkH?format=jpg&name=small)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fkarz6waEAA7xty?format=jpg&name=small)
Post by: benjipwns on December 21, 2022, 03:45:09 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 21, 2022, 04:52:08 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 21, 2022, 05:51:52 PM
Post by: Nintex on December 21, 2022, 06:00:04 PM
https://twitter.com/vitormori/status/1604672360765865985 (https://twitter.com/vitormori/status/1604672360765865985)
Post by: Uncle on December 22, 2022, 08:40:19 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/lkkC1oA.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/3I0Vxdm.png)
starting a violent revolution totally won't put plenty more people in therapy, nah
(https://i.imgur.com/oqT8rlZ.png)
actual psychologists back up this rhetoric, the cure to what ails you is literally murder
(https://i.imgur.com/qODagxL.png)
cool cool totally normal
(https://i.imgur.com/qsgiQmS.png)
...isn't this what advocacy of revolution is all about though? "if society was very different I'd have a lot more cool stuff and less stress, it's the man keepin' me down?"
Post by: Uncle on December 22, 2022, 11:17:11 AM
:elon
Post by: Potato on December 22, 2022, 02:00:26 PM
Post by: benjipwns on December 22, 2022, 06:18:35 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/qODagxL.png)Wait until this guy finds out that eight people don't even have half the U.S.'s wealth let alone the entire planet's and I'm sure he'll change his mind.
Post by: benjipwns on December 23, 2022, 07:48:14 PM
Post by: Nintex on December 24, 2022, 05:11:20 PM
:wut
Post by: Uncle on December 24, 2022, 05:18:16 PM
https://twitter.com/mrspeckzo/status/1606061981982547968 (https://twitter.com/mrspeckzo/status/1606061981982547968)
:wut
if you do not have a mother figure, one will be assigned to you
Post by: Potato on December 24, 2022, 07:06:44 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
It's the football at the end. It's a real football, not a handegg.
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Post by: benjipwns on December 24, 2022, 09:25:37 PM
Post by: benjipwns on December 24, 2022, 09:42:12 PM
https://twitter.com/austin63867/status/1605596443837726720
Post by: james on December 25, 2022, 03:21:10 PM
??? ???
Post by: Nintex on December 25, 2022, 06:14:04 PM
Post by: Nintex on December 25, 2022, 06:24:23 PM
Yikes ooffff
Post by: james on December 25, 2022, 06:59:51 PM
I get a feeling it's just AI content at this point.
Its called bot content you woke garbage
Post by: benjipwns on December 25, 2022, 11:26:14 PM
Post by: benjipwns on December 25, 2022, 11:42:52 PM
Quote from: https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjk98p/shrooms-racial-trauma-negus-in-nature
OAKLAND, Cali.—Deep in a redwood forest in California’s Castro Valley, the crowd of about 75 people was hard to miss. Not only because of the DJs kicking off dance parties, tables full of snacks and sparkling water, and people sharing shrooms and cannabis. But everyone there was also “melanated,” as one member described. Some even wore traditional African garments or golden halo crowns.
They’d traveled to the confluence of canyons about half an hour’s drive from downtown Oakland to celebrate the two-year anniversary of Negus (which means “king” in the Ethiopian language Amharic) in Nature. The group, which now has more than 300 subscribers, plans outdoor excursions around Oakland for Black people and provides a space for them to microdose on magic mushrooms, particularly as a way to heal from racial trauma.
“We’re really tapping into what's organic and what's natural to us. And so coming into nature with some psilocybin, with some good people, with some good herb, with some good music, some good drinks, some good food and no alcohol—you're going to have yourself a good time guaranteed,” Negus in Nature founder Langstyn Williams, dressed in an Afrofuturistic top with blue, orange, red, and yellow patterns, said to the group at the June 4 party.
“I believed that there was a space that was needed for Black people to feel safe and comfortable in nature. And I didn't know one that existed. So I was like, ‘I'm gonna go create it’,” he continued into a microphone.
While the vibe was celebratory, the party had an underlying poignancy. Williams, 30, asked people to shout out the names of ancestors they want to remember before leading a grounding ceremony, where he told people to breathe deeply and “let all the bullshit out that don't serve you no more.” His friend Luna Bey, a historian, followed up by instructing guests to set an intention for their shrooms trips.
Post by: Nintex on December 26, 2022, 08:27:55 AM
Thank god for video games and Tom Cruise :cruise
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 26, 2022, 10:44:42 AM
https://twitter.com/GeeksGamersCom/status/1607119990808870913 (https://twitter.com/GeeksGamersCom/status/1607119990808870913)
Yikes ooffff
There's a clip of the cast arguing why you should be excited for the show and it feels pretty strange.
https://twitter.com/witchernetflix/status/1606620711061278721
Like people are supposed to get excited that "it's the first time two men kiss in the witcher show"? It's 2022, tons of shows have gay characters, this doesn't set you apart at all. And somehow no one talks about what is supposed to be great about the story itself
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 26, 2022, 12:22:52 PM
Post by: Tasty on December 26, 2022, 03:15:28 PM
https://twitter.com/lavern_spicer/status/1604535982778449921
How is this not a dril post
Post by: Tasty on December 26, 2022, 03:16:17 PM
https://twitter.com/TheCriticalDri2/status/1607279394564833280 (https://twitter.com/TheCriticalDri2/status/1607279394564833280)
Thank god for video games and Tom Cruise :cruise
Thank God for that sweet Hot D :preach
Post by: Tasty on December 26, 2022, 03:17:47 PM
Post by: Tasty on December 26, 2022, 03:19:10 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/cornicelliny/status/1606267796223991813
??? ???
Where's the inaccuracy? Are they saying Christians don't believe in a son of God? :thinking
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on December 26, 2022, 03:54:34 PM
Where's the inaccuracy? Are they saying Christians don't believe in a son of God? :thinking
I think that its because its not stated as a verified scientifically provable objective fact but as a 'belief' which is basically just a strong opinion
Post by: Uncle on December 26, 2022, 04:33:42 PM
remember that basically every US president in history has had to at least pretend to be a christian
Post by: Potato on December 26, 2022, 04:44:47 PM
Post by: Tasty on December 26, 2022, 05:48:55 PM
Where's the inaccuracy? Are they saying Christians don't believe in a son of God? :thinking
I think that its because its not stated as a verified scientifically provable objective fact but as a 'belief' which is basically just a strong opinion
If it's scientifically provable then it's not "faith" either. :thinking
Post by: Uncle on December 26, 2022, 05:57:14 PM
Where's the inaccuracy? Are they saying Christians don't believe in a son of God? :thinking
I think that its because its not stated as a verified scientifically provable objective fact but as a 'belief' which is basically just a strong opinion
If it's scientifically provable then it's not "faith" either. :thinking
but faith in things increases as you gain more evidence
if you're given a car that looks kind of shitty you might say "well I guess I'll have to have faith that this gets me where I'm going"
then you drive it for a few weeks and have no issues, you wouldn't suddenly start saying "I've completely lost faith in this car"
you've GAINED faith in it, due to evidence that it works
Post by: Nintex on December 26, 2022, 06:39:51 PM
Post by: BIONIC on December 26, 2022, 07:12:53 PM
Post by: D3RANG3D on December 26, 2022, 07:28:12 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
When I was watching this show I was like I'm surprised a melanetad individual wasn't the MC/Jesus but I spoke too soon and she showed up and I almost spat my sodie pops out in laughter. :lol
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Post by: Himu on December 27, 2022, 02:02:35 PM
UUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Everyone's gay! My mom - gay! My dad - gay! My brother, my sister, my cat is gay! They say dogs hate cats but my dog is butch! Every one on my tv shows likes toys in their toosh! Everyone's gay, gay, gay!
spoiler (click to show/hide)
There is no gay agenda btw
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Post by: bork on December 27, 2022, 03:47:59 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/DLN0B1h.jpg)
UUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Everyone's gay! My mom - gay! My dad - gay! My brother, my sister, my cat is gay! They say dogs hate cats but my dog is butch! Every one on my tv shows likes toys in their toosh! Everyone's gay, gay, gay!spoiler (click to show/hide)There is no gay agenda btw[close]
It's clickbait.
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In a new interview with The Hollywood Reporter, Millar stated that while the creators were open to anything, the idea of sisterhood is intrinsic to the show. "We're not gonna discount anything, and, obviously, sometimes characters reveal themselves, which is the fun thing we love about television, that it's an organic journey," he said. "We have a roadmap, and we'd like to have routes along that map that take you in unexpected directions. So, we're open to everything. We wanna explore that friendship in every way." However, the creators want to remain cautious about being influenced by fans and their expectations of the show and its characters. Friendship is currently the key to the vision of the show for Millar and Gough, and they want to stay true to it.
Following the release of Netflix's Addams Family series, many fans saw the potential of a budding romance between Wednesday and Enid, but the creators want to focus on female friendships for now. Gough added, "For us, the show also is really about this female friendship, with Wednesday and Enid really being at the center of that. The fact that they really connected with audiences, it has been really gratifying. So, we’re excited to explore now that Wednesday’s dipped her toe into the friendship pool, what’s that gonna look like?"
And if they did end up together, so what?
Post by: Uncle on December 27, 2022, 04:40:54 PM
"don glover, is your portrayal of lando pansexual?!"
"I mean, anything's possible, it's a big galaxy with a lot of aliens to love, right...?"
ACTOR CONFIRMS LANDO IS PANSEXUAL
Post by: Himu on December 27, 2022, 06:19:44 PM
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And if they did end up together, so what?
Besides the lack of story precedence and the fact it turns a friendship into a romantic one when there isn't one?
Good on it being clickbait, though. It was refreshing to have a show without gay stuff in it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 27, 2022, 06:32:47 PM
It was refreshing to have a show without gay stuff in it.TV is full of this.
Post by: Himu on December 27, 2022, 11:29:38 PM
It was refreshing to have a show without gay stuff in it.TV is full of this.
Watch Sandman and many other shows. It gets to a point where it feels like it's forced on all of us and almost always in a creatively defunct manner from The Get Down to Empire to Stranger Things.
Post by: benjipwns on December 28, 2022, 12:08:12 AM
Post by: bork on December 28, 2022, 07:50:25 AM
QuoteAnd if they did end up together, so what?
Besides the lack of story precedence and the fact it turns a friendship into a romantic one when there isn't one?
Good on it being clickbait, though. It was refreshing to have a show without gay stuff in it.
:gurl
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 28, 2022, 09:36:34 AM
Post by: Nintex on December 28, 2022, 09:44:24 AM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 28, 2022, 11:35:22 AM
Post by: jorma on December 28, 2022, 01:25:18 PM
https://twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1607929430164516864 (https://twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1607929430164516864)
klaus: hi, we know that public education in jordan egypt and burundi kinda sucks so we've gotten private funding to improve it a lot
all the nutjobs: LITERALLY HITLER!
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 28, 2022, 06:32:18 PM
Post by: benjipwns on December 29, 2022, 07:30:46 AM
University art history instructor tells his students multiple times he's going to show some famous historical Islamic art that features Muhammed and allows any student to not view this if they choose. Doesn't matter, someone complains and the Vice President for Inclusive Excellence announces it was "undeniably Islamophobic" to show Islamic art created by Muslims:
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Several weeks ago, Hamline administration was made aware of an incident that occurred in an online class. Certain actions taken in that class were undeniably inconsiderate, disrespectful and Islamophobic. While the intent behind those actions may not have been to cause harm, it came at the expense of Hamline's Muslim community members. While much work has been done to address the issue in question since it occurred, the act itself was unacceptable.
The school later announces that Islamic religious beliefs are not to be questioned on campus:
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Hamline University is composed of people with diverse views, expectations, and interactions. This community generates different lived experiences that must all be acknowledged and respected. We understand and appreciate that tough, but important questions will arise in our community and we need to address them head-on.
Yet, because we are human, no matter how hard we try to educate on tough issues, we will make mistakes. While some are borne of ignorance, that is never an acceptable excuse. We must always try to do better, be better. We must also take responsibility for our actions, especially when others find them offensive.
It is never our intention to deliberately harm others. Yet, this harm is real and, when we harm, we should listen rather than debate the merits of or extent of that harm. We must always strive to do better, to listen more, and to not knowingly offend.
Our Muslim students, staff, and faculty are hurting. The classroom incident is only one of several instances in which their religious beliefs have been challenged. There are other instances that have occurred on our campus where they have been verbally attacked. This is not okay.
And that Islamic beliefs trump the academic freedom of non-Muslims:
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We believe in academic freedom, but it should not and cannot be used to excuse away behavior that harms others.
We have learned, over many years, that knowledge can be shared in a multitude of responsible, thoughtful, and respectful ways. Our response to the classroom event does not disregard or minimize the importance of academic freedom. It does state that respect, decency, and appreciation of religious and other differences should supersede when we know that what we teach will cause harm.
Given the complexity of our various histories, it is imperative that we find ways to teach difficult material. In the spirit of academic freedom, we do not suggest that some material be stricken from our classrooms and not shared with students. This does not generate new knowledge. We do suggest that the indefensible can be taught as well as material that offends – but how we teach it, and how we share images and content, matters.
It is not our intent to place blame; rather, it is our intent to note that in the classroom incident—where an image forbidden for Muslims to look upon was projected on a screen and left for many minutes—respect for the observant Muslim students in that classroom should have superseded academic freedom.
The school goes on to cancel the contract of the instructor for sharing historical Islamic art in an art history class:
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The instructor was released from their spring term teaching at Hamline, and its AVPIE went on the record as stating: "It was decided it was best that this faculty member was no longer part of the Hamline community."
The Chair of the schools religion department wrote to the campus paper that this was all very stupid for an endless number of reasons and also outlined the history of Islamic depictions of Muhammed (full thing is at the link):
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Another possibility is that the very act of displaying an image of Muhammad is itself Islamophobic. But if this were the case, there are a number of very disturbing implications. First, it would mean that anybody who showed these images in a classroom, a book, or on their wall, would be an Islamophobe. Any scholar who wrote a book about Islamic art and included these images for discussion or analysis would be an Islamophobe. Even Muslims (and, as we will see, many Muslims throughout history have created and enjoyed these images) would be Islamophobic if they did this. Second, it would mean that these images could never be seen by, or shown to, anybody. In effect, it would require an erasure of an entire genre of Islamic art.
Should no student be able to see this art? And what would it mean for a liberal arts institution to deem an entire subject of study prohibited?
Finally, it seems that the interpretation of the administrators means that if an act is prohibited to members of a particular religion, then everyone has to incorporate that prohibition into their own lives.
...
Ultimately, Islamic images of the Prophet Muhammad are part of the historical record, and an academic art historian who teaches Islamic art must acknowledge and discuss this in some way. Students would be deprived of an illuminating part of Islamic art history if they were not taught about this material, which, according to Dr. Gruber, "is considered by many individuals—including Muslim believers, artists, curators, scholars, collectors, and philanthropists—a global artistic patrimony that is increasingly at risk today." Furthermore, if an art historian were to conclude that images of Muhammad are forbidden, they would be privileging the interpretation of some Muslims over others. It is not up to academics to make judgments about which forms of a religion are correct and which artworks must be purged from the historical record. We must present a religious tradition and its artistic heritage in all of its richness and diversity. While some Muslims believe that figural representations of the Prophet Muhammad are forbidden, others in the past and present do not. It is thus incumbent on a professor to teach the material and convey the full range of artistic expression, as the Hamline faculty member seems to have done.
This incident reminds us that the study of religion is not only fascinating and thought-provoking but is also essential to understanding and skillfully navigating the challenges of living together in a multifaith society. This includes engaging with diversity within faith traditions and not labeling the teaching of an Islamic artistic masterpiece an incident of "hate and discrimination."
After publishing this, there were further complaints and the campus paper deleted it explaining that they don't allow themselves to be a platform for creating "trauma" and that this is not up for debate so apparently they'll delete anything they've published if you just complain:
Quote from: https://reason.com/volokh/2022/12/26/hamline-student-newspaper-the-oracle-removed-published-defense-of-lecturer-who-showed-painting-of-muhammad
The Oracle is Hamline's independent, student-run newspaper. One of our core tenets, to minimize harm, exists for us to hold ourselves accountable for the way our news affects the lives of individual students, and the Hamline community and student body as a whole. Those in our community have expressed that a letter we published has caused them harm. We have decided, as an editorial board, to take it down.
In no way are any of us on this staff or on the Editorial Board experts about journalism or trauma. We are, however, dedicated to actively supporting, platforming and listening to the experiences and voices of members of our community.
We are a student publication that is here to provide a space to elevate the voices of students. Our work is of no value if at any time our publication is participating in furthering harm to members of our community.
Our website acts as a space to widely share information and as a digital archive. We believe that what we publish is a matter of public record that reflects and includes the viewpoints of our community that creates space for having conversations in the open that would otherwise be left in private. We hope these conversations can lead to transparency and accountability. However, our publication will not participate in conversations where a person must defend their lived experience and trauma as topics of discussion or debate.
Pulitzer Center describes minimizing harm as having "compassion and sensitivity for those who may be adversely affected by news coverage." We will continue to consider and scrutinize our coverage and angles to elevate the stories of members of our community. It is not a publication's job to challenge or define sensitive experiences or trauma. If and when situations arise where these stories are shared, it is our responsibility to listen to and carry them in the most supportive, respectful, safe and beneficial way for the story's stakeholders and our readers.
We have learned and experienced from our first day at Hamline, a liberal arts institution, the importance of seeing things from a nuanced perspective. However, trauma and lived experiences are not open for debate.
This all gets my maximum rating: :dead :dead :dead :dead
Post by: Nintex on December 29, 2022, 07:56:42 AM
https://twitter.com/ajplus/status/1608304299179757569 (https://twitter.com/ajplus/status/1608304299179757569)
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 29, 2022, 09:20:13 AM
Post by: Transhuman on December 29, 2022, 09:44:45 AM
btw
Post by: Potato on December 29, 2022, 03:36:50 PM
Post by: Nintex on December 29, 2022, 04:18:30 PM
:wut
Post by: benjipwns on December 30, 2022, 05:41:15 AM
:wut
Post by: who is ted danson? on December 30, 2022, 05:45:01 AM
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on December 30, 2022, 05:55:04 AM
Ok, so since the rest of the populace at that University is now forced to respect and abide by religious rules, then I guess that means it's open season on women and honour killings are back on the menu.
what are the specials
Post by: who is ted danson? on December 30, 2022, 06:15:43 AM
Post by: Potato on December 30, 2022, 06:27:33 AM
A bit of religion-sanctioned domestic violenceOk, so since the rest of the populace at that University is now forced to respect and abide by religious rules, then I guess that means it's open season on women and honour killings are back on the menu.
what are the specials
Post by: Nintex on December 30, 2022, 09:09:17 AM
Thank god they interrupted her casting a spell to summon the spirits of the dead.
Post by: BIONIC on December 30, 2022, 09:12:29 AM
Post by: who is ted danson? on December 30, 2022, 09:46:01 AM
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 30, 2022, 06:03:28 PM
Post by: james on December 30, 2022, 07:03:58 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 30, 2022, 09:19:58 PM
That adjusted quote is killing me
Post by: Potato on December 30, 2022, 09:52:56 PM
Post by: benjipwns on December 30, 2022, 10:11:33 PM
Post by: BIONIC on December 31, 2022, 02:54:42 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/lilbabygandhi/status/1576552021905510401
:hesright
Post by: Uncle on December 31, 2022, 11:47:32 AM
Sounds like Tate is fucked. It's hilarious, just a few weeks ago I was talking to someone at work about the obscene wealth he shows off. Typically with influencers you just assume it's a benefactor. IE the cars, money, big house etc all belong to somebody else. With Tate it looked a lot more like money laundering. Shout outs to the forensic accountants who are likely tracking those $59.99 Hustler University sub purchases and finding shadow LLCs.
he may very well not be, judging from 2 minutes of intense wikipediaing
he was already arrested once before and released for this same thing, and now there's just one person of four who were detained who's been actually charged, and may not even be him
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On April 11, 2022, the police raided two properties in Ilfov County, Romania, including Tate's mansion, after the U.S. embassy alerted them that an American woman might be held at the property. Two women were found, and claimed they were being held there against their will, sparking an investigation into human trafficking and rape by DIICOT, the Romanian anti-organized crime agency. After being questioned for five hours, both brothers were released.[58][59] Tate later denied any wrongdoing, calling it a case of swatting.[60]
On December 29, 2022, the police searched five homes based on a search warrant, including Tate's Ilfov mansion. Four suspects were arrested and detained for a period of 24 hours, including both Tate brothers, a former policewoman, and an unnamed fourth Romanian individual.[8] DIICOT alleges that the suspects "recruited and then sexually abused" six women in Ilfov,[8][61] and formed a group in early 2021 "with the purpose of recruiting, housing and exploiting women by forcing them to create pornographic content meant to be seen on specialised websites for a cost". Both Tate brothers are accused of luring women through the "loverboy" method, by misrepresenting their intention to commit to romantic relationships; they were charged with human trafficking and forming an organized crime group.[8][9] One of the four suspects is charged with rape and accused of emotional abuse, but was not named by police.[8][62]
On December 30, 2022, following the 24-hour detention, DIICOT asked a judge that the detention be extended. The court acceded to their request late on December 30, and all four are being remanded in custody for a further 30 days. The Tates have appealed the detention, which will be ruled on in the first week of 2023.[8][62][63]
Post by: Nintex on December 31, 2022, 01:12:32 PM
The idiot bragged about bribing officials however. He might have paid off some local cops or something but it is highly unlikely the Romanian feds and EU/Interpol investigators are playing ball with him.
The stench of suspected of international sex trafficking won't come off so easily leaving Tate with no option but to relocate to a shithole outside of the EU, UK or US if he wants to continue his business of abusing and exploiting women.
Not to mention we don't know who his business associates were. Wouldn't surprise me if it was related to the Romanian mob which has ties to the Russian mob.
Who again have no problem with his business but do with the fact that he's telling everyone about the bribes.
Post by: benjipwns on December 31, 2022, 05:25:52 PM
With the money he has he can probably stay out of jail and settle any lawsuits from victims.This guy believes he's actually rich. :lol
Post by: Nintex on December 31, 2022, 05:32:17 PM
It's Romania my dude. One of the poorest and cheapest countries in Europe.With the money he has he can probably stay out of jail and settle any lawsuits from victims.This guy believes he's actually rich. :lol
Post by: Uncle on December 31, 2022, 06:42:32 PM
Post by: Nintex on December 31, 2022, 07:56:12 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 31, 2022, 08:24:35 PM
Post by: benjipwns on December 31, 2022, 09:02:17 PM
Post by: benjipwns on December 31, 2022, 09:21:48 PM
https://twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1609273382180102144
:kermit
Post by: Himu on January 01, 2023, 08:25:02 AM
Question everything. American feminism is your cringe auntie at this point. Needs massive rebrand at this point lmao. Good job Pearl.
Benji I watched Andor since our last talk and guess what? Another gay couple and the only couple at that. It's so prominent too.
Post by: Nintex on January 01, 2023, 09:40:40 AM
If you want a Star Wars that's not gay you can always watch Attack of the Clones and enjoy 3 hours of Anakin grooming Padme and Galactic Senate politics. :lucas
Post by: BIONIC on January 01, 2023, 09:41:54 AM
Post by: Potato on January 01, 2023, 03:04:57 PM
Post by: james on January 01, 2023, 04:40:28 PM
Sounds like a cool place
Post by: benjipwns on January 01, 2023, 08:01:09 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FlWniO4aEAAwqNj?format=jpg&name=small)
Post by: james on January 01, 2023, 10:47:18 PM
Post by: Potato on January 01, 2023, 11:33:43 PM
The anti-pedo/groomer/age-difference/etc. panic seems to be escalating:It is literally insane to think that the woman is the victim here.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FlWniO4aEAAwqNj?format=jpg&name=small)
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 02, 2023, 03:43:58 AM
Post by: Tasty on January 02, 2023, 08:28:09 AM
We need to raise the age of consent to 25 can't be too safe
https://slate.com/technology/2022/12/teen-brains-neuroscience-justice-law-supreme-court.html
I mean...
Post by: Nintex on January 02, 2023, 11:29:04 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLUrKg7XsAcbrI9?format=jpg)
Ultimate "I can fix her" challenge
Post by: HaughtyFrank on January 02, 2023, 01:18:01 PM
Post by: Potato on January 02, 2023, 03:28:32 PM
Fucking lefties in this country keep arguing that the voting age should be reduced to 16...while arguing the same bullshit about criminal liability as that article.We need to raise the age of consent to 25 can't be too safe
https://slate.com/technology/2022/12/teen-brains-neuroscience-justice-law-supreme-court.html
I mean...
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on January 03, 2023, 02:00:02 PM
:drool
#goth
Post by: james on January 03, 2023, 04:14:11 PM
Fucking lefties in this country keep arguing that the voting age should be reduced to 16...while arguing the same bullshit about criminal liability as that article.We need to raise the age of consent to 25 can't be too safe
https://slate.com/technology/2022/12/teen-brains-neuroscience-justice-law-supreme-court.html
I mean...
What if age is not the right metric?
There are some 22 year olds that are extremely immature. Just look at influencers on YouTube.
We should instead use science and real biology.
I propose that we base the age of majority on breast size
Post by: Transhuman on January 03, 2023, 04:43:34 PM
Just look at influencers on YouTube.
Do adults really do this.
Post by: Nintex on January 03, 2023, 05:24:21 PM
Yes because the kiddo's use TikTok.Just look at influencers on YouTube.
Do adults really do this.
Today I learned that an old friend of mine is now big on TikTok.
She is playing Fortnite with her cousin and she's absolutely sick of it but because she has 180k followers on TikTok she can't stop.
When she goes to a theme park or something they need to involve security because once the kids recognize them they go crazy.
Post by: Transhuman on January 03, 2023, 06:41:38 PM
Post by: Nintex on January 03, 2023, 06:59:41 PM
On TikTok isn't the time limit like 5 mins? And isn't it vertical video? I'm so confused, show one of their vidsDuring COVID they started playing Fortnite on YouTube and made small sketches about school situations which is their most popular content:
https://www.tiktok.com/@teamplagiaat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDQDkdybGj4
They like doing the sketches but they're done with Fortnite. However the kids want them to keep playing Fortnite and they have a few sponsorship deals.
Post by: Potato on January 03, 2023, 09:45:28 PM
South East Asian women annihilatedFucking lefties in this country keep arguing that the voting age should be reduced to 16...while arguing the same bullshit about criminal liability as that article.We need to raise the age of consent to 25 can't be too safe
https://slate.com/technology/2022/12/teen-brains-neuroscience-justice-law-supreme-court.html
I mean...
What if age is not the right metric?
There are some 22 year olds that are extremely immature. Just look at influencers on YouTube.
We should instead use science and real biology.
I propose that we base the age of majority on breast size
Post by: HaughtyFrank on January 03, 2023, 11:00:41 PM
Post by: james on January 03, 2023, 11:03:36 PM
South East Asian women annihilatedFucking lefties in this country keep arguing that the voting age should be reduced to 16...while arguing the same bullshit about criminal liability as that article.We need to raise the age of consent to 25 can't be too safe
https://slate.com/technology/2022/12/teen-brains-neuroscience-justice-law-supreme-court.html
I mean...
What if age is not the right metric?
There are some 22 year olds that are extremely immature. Just look at influencers on YouTube.
We should instead use science and real biology.
I propose that we base the age of majority on breast size
China makes it pretty damn obvious they don't know how to run government over there
Post by: Himu on January 03, 2023, 11:36:50 PM
Disordered living. May God forgive us all.
Post by: Potato on January 03, 2023, 11:39:51 PM
Post by: james on January 04, 2023, 03:09:37 AM
Ive been 28 for years
Post by: Nintex on January 04, 2023, 04:22:09 AM
Also the desire for kids/teenagers to be grown ups. Roleplaying with toys and video games. Transage just seems like a new way to label it and nothing to be alarmed about.
Post by: Nintex on January 04, 2023, 08:00:57 AM
Post by: BIONIC on January 04, 2023, 08:27:07 AM
Post by: Himu on January 04, 2023, 09:03:20 AM
https://twitter.com/SydneyLWatson/status/1610363609388929026
Yes Sydney YESSSS.
https://youtu.be/JHgpHfrULHc
Post by: Himu on January 04, 2023, 09:38:19 AM
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1610307938438053888
Absolutely horrifying. Godspeed to my Canadian brothers and sisters going through this wave of evil.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 04, 2023, 10:21:37 AM
Post by: Nintex on January 04, 2023, 10:38:27 AM
The culture war is completely out of the control and unhinged
https://twitter.com/ShannenJPEG/status/1610628586679173122 (https://twitter.com/ShannenJPEG/status/1610628586679173122)
Post by: Potato on January 04, 2023, 03:52:49 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on January 04, 2023, 04:25:32 PM
Post by: Potato on January 04, 2023, 04:35:39 PM
Intersectionalism really turns everything a million times more complicated. That panel can't just discuss women's rights but also needs to address race, disability, "beauty privilege" and whatever else you can think of and anyone who is just a cishet woman is then told to take a backseat over all those other more important topicsIt's fucking stupid.
Men running the world:
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"Sir, the Russians have invaded Ukraine."
"Ok, let's fuck them up by giving the Ukrainians big guns."
"Ok, were on it."
Women running the world:
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"Ma'am, the Russians have invaded Ukraine."
"I just can't deal with this today. They're just going to have to sort it out themselves. Don't you know we haven't solved racism and transphobia yet...and don't even get me started on Joanne!"
"People are dying ma'am. This is going to disturb the entire world order."
"I have a headache. Leave me alone."
Post by: Nintex on January 04, 2023, 05:26:04 PM
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"Sir, the Russians have invaded Ukraine.":trumps
"I just can't deal with this today. They're just going to have to sort it out themselves. Don't you know we haven't solved the economy and the border yet...and don't even get me started on CNN!"
"People are dying sir. This is going to disturb the entire world order."
"Tucker is on . Leave me alone."
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*30 minutes later*
"Get Lou, Rudy and Dana White on the phone. We need the BEST WARRIORS. Why aren't our planes in the air? Is Tucker the only one paying attention around here?"
Post by: Potato on January 04, 2023, 05:47:15 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 04, 2023, 07:32:09 PM
Lmfao at Canada forcing re-educationWhat are they going to do? He doesn't practice anyway. :lol
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1610307938438053888
Absolutely horrifying. Godspeed to my Canadian brothers and sisters going through this wave of evil.
Post by: D3RANG3D on January 04, 2023, 08:48:50 PM
Post by: HardcoreRetro on January 05, 2023, 04:00:38 AM
"Drink ze apple juice Mr Peterson!"
"NOOOOOOOOOOOO"
Post by: Potato on January 05, 2023, 05:26:08 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq3UpFAwPbA
Original 2004 ad for reference
https://youtu.be/3dqsyXPkG3I
Post by: Transhuman on January 05, 2023, 04:04:25 PM
Post by: Nintex on January 05, 2023, 04:09:04 PM
:pika
Post by: Uncle on January 05, 2023, 04:33:58 PM
Australia Day Lamb ad for 2023 takes a thinly veiled swipe at cancel culture.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq3UpFAwPbA
this is actually amazing
"ok, guess I'm exactly whatever you accuse me of being, along with 90% of everyone else. what of it?"
Post by: HaughtyFrank on January 05, 2023, 04:44:07 PM
If you need some explanation of the context
https://www.tiktok.com/@moderngurlz/video/7184886374238031105?_r=1&_t=8YkrEYYUuLS&is_from_webapp=v1&item_id=7184886374238031105
Post by: Potato on January 05, 2023, 04:56:22 PM
The 2017 ad was pretty great as well. Head on addressing the culture war too.Australia Day Lamb ad for 2023 takes a thinly veiled swipe at cancel culture.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq3UpFAwPbA
this is actually amazing
"ok, guess I'm exactly whatever you accuse me of being, along with 90% of everyone else. what of it?"
https://youtu.be/yGdj1TwBU1w
Post by: HaughtyFrank on January 06, 2023, 12:23:08 PM
Post by: james on January 06, 2023, 01:02:56 PM
https://twitter.com/RobinMazumder/status/1611416880664690691
Post by: Nintex on January 06, 2023, 02:26:14 PM
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"The corporate kingdom has come to an end," DeSantis' communications director, Taryn Fenske, told Fox News. "Under the proposed legislation, Disney will no longer control its own government, will live under the same laws as everyone else, will be responsible for their outstanding debts, and will pay their fair share of taxes."
DeSantis is going to annex Disney land.
Post by: james on January 06, 2023, 02:45:25 PM
DeSantis is going to annex Disney land.
Finally a real man in government stands up with the common man to seize private property from these mega-corps
:juche
Post by: Uncle on January 06, 2023, 04:24:26 PM
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Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on January 06, 2023, 04:29:44 PM
the republican way!
Post by: jorma on January 06, 2023, 05:38:02 PM
but since they hate desantis and love disney they get mad instead. idpol is amazing! :lol
Post by: Uncle on January 06, 2023, 05:44:14 PM
i was wondering why nintex put this in the culture war thread, and now i see the progressives getting salty about this even though it should be a fucking joyous occasion for them that a notorious private fiefdom might get dismantled
but since they hate desantis and love disney they get mad instead. idpol is amazing! :lol
yeah it might as well be epic vs. apple, holy shit just let the assholes fight and enjoy the circus
Post by: benjipwns on January 06, 2023, 10:19:56 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 07, 2023, 11:18:20 AM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on January 07, 2023, 01:07:02 PM
You're welcome, women :salute
Post by: Himu on January 07, 2023, 02:59:45 PM
I'm black! Blackity blackity black black! Blblblblblblblblack! I'm oppressed! Will someone save us black people from football?
Post by: HaughtyFrank on January 07, 2023, 04:54:35 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 07, 2023, 07:54:30 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fl3gyOcWIAM2uut?format=jpg&name=small)
Post by: james on January 08, 2023, 02:44:41 PM
Post by: Nintex on January 08, 2023, 02:50:04 PM
Where is rainbow land located on the map ???
Post by: jorma on January 08, 2023, 03:23:29 PM
insane progressve librul yank: capitalism and white supremacy is so oppressive, i'd rather live in 70's soviet union!
insane 70's russian guy in a bread queue: *glances over shoulder* err.. uhm.. 70's soviet union for sure, comrade! (he might be insane, but he's not THAT insane)
result: Stalin :pimp 3:0 Reagan :fbm
Post by: BIONIC on January 08, 2023, 04:00:55 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/navyhato/status/1611624213835812865
In which era am I more likely to get laid?
Post by: Nintex on January 08, 2023, 05:04:25 PM
I would go with 2020's USAhttps://mobile.twitter.com/navyhato/status/1611624213835812865
In which era am I more likely to get laid?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_is_no_sex_in_the_USSR (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_is_no_sex_in_the_USSR)
Post by: Potato on January 08, 2023, 05:11:08 PM
Probably depends on how much you are willing to payhttps://mobile.twitter.com/navyhato/status/1611624213835812865
In which era am I more likely to get laid?
Post by: BIONIC on January 08, 2023, 05:23:43 PM
Post by: Transhuman on January 08, 2023, 11:10:30 PM
Post by: BIONIC on January 08, 2023, 11:19:05 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 08, 2023, 11:22:22 PM
Post by: Nintex on January 09, 2023, 01:05:18 PM
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1612506318014668807 (https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1612506318014668807)
Post by: james on January 09, 2023, 01:27:39 PM
Post by: Nintex on January 09, 2023, 02:13:28 PM
Post by: Himu on January 09, 2023, 02:47:47 PM
https://youtu.be/CQ_SZujabuQ
Post by: Nintex on January 09, 2023, 06:58:01 PM
https://twitter.com/AdamSessler/status/1612168838153658368 (https://twitter.com/AdamSessler/status/1612168838153658368)
Post by: HaughtyFrank on January 09, 2023, 07:21:04 PM
It's all so dumb, like there's no way of winning. The producers aren't even entirely wrong considering when Wednesday had two bully characters who were black people called the show racist (nevermind that these characters don't turn out to be villains and have a positive arc through the course of the show).
Post by: Polident Hive on January 09, 2023, 07:51:42 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 09, 2023, 08:04:46 PM
"Comedy"https://twitter.com/crehage/status/1612521994641104917
twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1612506318014668807
:hesright
Post by: Uncle on January 09, 2023, 09:13:49 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on January 09, 2023, 10:24:41 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 10, 2023, 02:30:59 AM
Here's a good one. (https://reason.com/volokh/2022/12/26/hamline-university-apparently-fires-art-history-lecturer-for-showing-depictions-of-muhammed/) (I'd link to a different source but some censorship is ongoing. Also I may be lazy.)NYT covered this, it was a woman professor and there's info on the accuser who claims they were "blindslided" by the image:
University art history instructor tells his students multiple times he's going to show some famous historical Islamic art that features Muhammed and allows any student to not view this if they choose. Doesn't matter, someone complains and the Vice President for Inclusive Excellence announces it was "undeniably Islamophobic" to show Islamic art created by Muslims:
Quote from: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/08/us/hamline-university-islam-prophet-muhammad.html
Erika López Prater, an adjunct professor at Hamline University, said she knew many Muslims have deeply held religious beliefs that prohibit depictions of the Prophet Muhammad. So last semester for a global art history class, she took many precautions before showing a 14th-century painting of Islam’s founder.
In the syllabus, she warned that images of holy figures, including the Prophet Muhammad and the Buddha, would be shown in the course. She asked students to contact her with any concerns, and she said no one did.
In class, she prepped students, telling them that in a few minutes, the painting would be displayed, in case anyone wanted to leave.
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After Dr. López Prater showed the image, a senior in the class complained to the administration. Other Muslim students, not in the course, supported the student, saying the class was an attack on their religion. They demanded that officials take action.
Officials told Dr. López Prater that her services next semester were no longer needed. In emails to students and faculty, they said that the incident was clearly Islamophobic. Hamline’s president, Fayneese S. Miller, co-signed an email that said respect for the Muslim students “should have superseded academic freedom.” At a town hall, an invited Muslim speaker compared showing the images to teaching that Hitler was good.
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In a December interview with the school newspaper, the student who complained to the administration, Aram Wedatalla, described being blindsided by the image.
“I’m like, ‘This can’t be real,’” said Ms. Wedatalla, who in a public forum described herself as Sudanese. “As a Muslim and a Black person, I don’t feel like I belong, and I don’t think I’ll ever belong in a community where they don’t value me as a member, and they don’t show the same respect that I show them.”
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Omid Safi, a professor of Asian and Middle Eastern Studies at Duke University, said he regularly shows images of the Prophet Muhammad in class and without Dr. López Prater’s opt-out mechanisms. He explains to his students that these images were works of devotion created by pious artists at the behest of devout rulers.
“That’s the part I want my students to grapple with,” Dr. Safi said. “How does something that comes from the very middle of the tradition end up being received later on as something marginal or forbidden?”
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Dr. López Prater, a self-described art nerd, said she knew about the potential for conflict on Oct. 6, when she began her online lecture with 30 or so students.
She said she spent a few minutes explaining why she was showing the image, how different religions have depicted the divine and how standards change over time.
“I do not want to present the art of Islam as something that is monolithic,” she said in an interview, adding that she had been shown the image as a graduate student. She also showed a second image, from the 16th century, which depicted Muhammad wearing a veil.
Dr. López Prater said that no one in class raised concerns, and there was no disrespectful commentary.
After the class ended, Ms. Wedatalla, a business major and president of the university’s Muslim Student Association, stuck around to voice her discomfort.
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As Dr. López Prater predicted, Ms. Wedatalla reached out to administrators. Dr. López Prater, with Ms. Baker’s help, wrote an apology, explaining that sometimes “diversity involves bringing contradicting, uncomfortable and coexisting truths into conversation with each other.”
Ms. Wedatalla declined an interview request, and did not explain why she had not raised concerns before the image was shown. But in an email statement, she said images of Prophet Muhammad should never be displayed, and that Dr. López Prater gave a trigger warning precisely because she knew such images were offensive to many Muslims. The lecture was so disturbing, she said, that she could no longer see herself in that course.
Four days after the class, Dr. López Prater was summoned to a video meeting with the dean of the college of liberal arts, Marcela Kostihova.
Dr. Kostihova compared showing the image to using a racial epithet for Black people, according to Dr. López Prater.
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At the Dec. 8 forum, which was attended by several dozen students, faculty and administrators, Ms. Wedatalla described, often through tears, how she felt seeing the image.
“Who do I call at 8 a.m.,” she asked, when “you see someone disrespecting and offending your religion?”
Other Muslim students on the panel, all Black women, also spoke tearfully about struggling to fit in at Hamline. Students of color in recent years had protested what they called racist incidents; the university, they said, paid lip service to diversity and did not support students with institutional resources.
The main speaker was Jaylani Hussein, the executive director of the Minnesota chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, a Muslim civil rights group.
The instructor’s actions, he said, hurt Muslim students and students of color and had “absolutely no benefit.”
“If this institution wants to value those students,” he added, “it cannot have incidents like this happen. If somebody wants to teach some controversial stuff about Islam, go teach it at the local library.”
Mark Berkson, a religion professor at Hamline, raised his hand.
“When you say ‘trust Muslims on Islamophobia,’” Dr. Berkson asked, “what does one do when the Islamic community itself is divided on an issue? Because there are many Muslim scholars and experts and art historians who do not believe that this was Islamophobic.”
Mr. Hussein responded that there were marginal and extremist voices on any issue. “You can teach a whole class about why Hitler was good,” Mr. Hussein said.
During the exchange, Ms. Baker, the department head, and Dr. Everett, the administrator, separately walked up to the religion professor, put their hands on his shoulders and said this was not the time to raise these concerns, Dr. Berkson said in an interview.
But Dr. Berkson, who said he strongly supported campus diversity, said that he felt compelled to speak up.
“We were being asked to accept, without questioning, that what our colleague did — teaching an Islamic art masterpiece in a class on art history after having given multiple warnings — was somehow equivalent to mosque vandalism and violence against Muslims and hate speech,” Dr. Berkson said. “That is what I could not stand.”
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Dr. Safi, the Duke professor, said Hamline had effectively taken sides in a debate among Muslims. Students “don’t have to give up their values,” he added. “But some part of the educational process does call for stepping beyond each one of our vantage points enough to know that none of us have the monopoly on truth.”
From the school paper article:
Quote from: https://hamlineoracle.com/10750/news/who-belongs/
The professor of the class emailed Wedatalla that Saturday, Oct. 8.
“I would like to apologize that the image I showed in class on [Oct. 6] made you uncomfortable and caused you emotional agitation. It is never my intention to upset or disrespect students in my classroom,” the professor wrote in the email to Wedatalla, who shared it with the Oracle.
The professor shared the depictions over a Powerpoint through a Google Meet online class. The Oracle has acquired this recording through a student in the course who wishes to stay anonymous.
In the video of the class, the professor gives a content warning and describes the nature of the depictions to be shown and reflects on their controversial nature for more than two minutes before advancing to the slides in question.
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“I am showing you this image for a reason. And that is that there is this common thinking that Islam completely forbids, outright, any figurative depictions or any depictions of holy personages. While many Islamic cultures do strongly frown on this practice, I would like to remind you there is no one, monothetic Islamic culture,” the professor said before changing to the slide that included these depictions.
In the Oct. 8 email to Wedatalla, the professor stated that they “[let] the class know ahead of time” what would be shown and to give students time to turn off their video.
“I did not try to surprise students with this image, and I did my best to provide students with an ‘out,’” the professor wrote in the email.
“I also described every subsequent slide I showed with language to indicate when I was no longer showing an image of the Prophet Muhammad. I am sorry that despite my attempt to prevent a negative reaction, you still viewed and were troubled by this image.”
MSA students and their advisor Nur Mood, Assistant Director of Social Justice Programs and Strategic Relations, met with members of the administration on Oct. 10 to discuss the incident and how to move forward.
“This [incident is] much deeper and it’s something that in a million years, I never expected that it would happen here at Hamline. I hope this is the last time I see something similar to this,” Mood said in a Dec. 2 interview with the Oracle. “There’s a lot of apologies all happening, but the harm’s done. I think we should have started more focused about the healing process.”
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Attendees also discussed the delayed email from the Dean of Students. Kersten clarified that the official determination of the recent incident was that it was an act of intolerance, it would not be classified as a hate crime, which the university is required to send emails about.
In an interview with the Oracle on Nov. 11, Everett stated that the email delay was impacted by a need to establish follow-up for faculty and steps moving forward, areas the administration had to fill in gaps as they collected input from the “collective MSA.”
“All of those things needed to take place and so that was more of a contributing factor to the timing of when the email went out, versus whether it was deemed a hate crime or not,” Everett said. “In lieu of this incident, it was decided it was best that this faculty member was no longer part of the Hamline community.”
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Post by: james on January 10, 2023, 02:41:05 AM
Cry harder Ms. Wedatalla
Post by: Himu on January 10, 2023, 04:07:14 AM
Post by: Potato on January 10, 2023, 04:13:02 AM
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Hamline’s president, Fayneese S. Miller, co-signed an email that said respect for the Muslim students “should have superseded academic freedom.”
Ok, so if a law professor states that it is against the law to cut the hands from thieves and behead women for adultery, then that professor should be fired because it disrespects Islamic practices and therefore Muslim students?
Post by: Himu on January 10, 2023, 04:25:57 AM
Your statement is the equivalent of asking why Christian nations have such a huge problem with school shootings, when really it's just USA that has this problem. By being too general and painting too broad a brush you not only look ignorant, you also look like an idiot and a dick. In America they will have someone ride the lightning despite being innocent for no reason except his race. Hell, we can place the blame on the destruction of entire countries like Afghanistan and Iraq on USA, yet Americans seem to live with it. It's almost as if humans are inherently flawed.
Post by: benjipwns on January 10, 2023, 04:55:22 AM
Most Muslim countries don't have those laws. Even Indonesia, within the the territory of Aceh, which has its own shariah, doesn't cut off hands or cut off adulterers heads.Potato's hypothetical is in line with Hamline's position, however, that a claim by any Muslim mandates the school's decisions. Muslims disagreeing on what is mandated by Islam was specifically excluded as a defense.
Your statement is the equivalent of asking why Christian nations have such a huge problem with school shootings, when really it's just USA that has this problem. By being too general and painting too broad a brush you not only look ignorant, you also look like an idiot and a dick. In America they will have someone ride the lightning despite being innocent for no reason except his race. Hell, we can place the blame on the destruction of entire countries like Afghanistan and Iraq on USA, yet Americans seem to live with it. It's almost as if humans are inherently flawed.
Post by: Himu on January 10, 2023, 05:18:02 AM
I really hope the person that complained doesn't have a heart attack when someone eats pork in front of her.
The complainer is pretty pathetic. The painting is pretty dope. The Prophet is just chilling.
Post by: NekoFever on January 10, 2023, 05:32:52 AM
https://twitter.com/KinelRyan/status/1612535931516362777
It's all so dumb, like there's no way of winning. The producers aren't even entirely wrong considering when Wednesday had two bully characters who were black people called the show racist (nevermind that these characters don't turn out to be villains and have a positive arc through the course of the show).
Reaganite 80s action movies were progressive all along! :rejoice
Post by: Potato on January 10, 2023, 06:17:01 AM
Most Muslim countries don't have those laws. Even Indonesia, within the the territory of Aceh, which has its own shariah, doesn't cut off hands or cut off adulterers heads.You're missing the point as usual in your eagerness to criticise and to try to prove people wrong. My hypothetical is calling into question the behaviour of the University not the religion (although, any religion that prescribes corporal punishment is absurd).
Your statement is the equivalent of asking why Christian nations have such a huge problem with school shootings, when really it's just USA that has this problem. By being too general and painting too broad a brush you not only look ignorant, you also look like an idiot and a dick. In America they will have someone ride the lightning despite being innocent for no reason except his race. Hell, we can place the blame on the destruction of entire countries like Afghanistan and Iraq on USA, yet Americans seem to live with it. It's almost as if humans are inherently flawed.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on January 10, 2023, 06:20:19 AM
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In a December interview with the school newspaper, the student who complained to the administration, Aram Wedatalla, described being blindsided by the image.
The student sounds like an asshole who just wanted to start some shit
Post by: Uncle on January 10, 2023, 07:16:33 AM
Islam is the snowflakiest of religions.
Cry harder Ms. Wedatalla
what dave chapelle refers to as a fragile spirit
Post by: benjipwns on January 10, 2023, 07:28:06 AM
https://twitter.com/Scribeintheink/status/1612492901585457160
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Post by: james on January 10, 2023, 10:34:46 AM
"What is the meaning of life? What happens after death? How does one have a fulfilling time on earth?
Islam:
"YOU DREW WHAT??? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE *amazon.com: boxcutters*"
Post by: jorma on January 10, 2023, 11:12:51 AM
Normal, well adjusted religions:
"What is the meaning of life? What happens after death? How does one have a fulfilling time on earth?
Islam:
"YOU DREW WHAT??? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE *amazon.com: boxcutters*"
is one of those normal well adjusted religions in the tweets linked directly above your post? :lol
Post by: james on January 10, 2023, 11:34:42 AM
Normal, well adjusted religions:
"What is the meaning of life? What happens after death? How does one have a fulfilling time on earth?
Islam:
"YOU DREW WHAT??? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE *amazon.com: boxcutters*"
is one of those normal well adjusted religions in the tweets linked directly above your post? :lol
???
Allah says in the Quran, “Tell the believing men to lower their gaze (from Looking at Forbidden things), And protect their private parts (from illegal sexual Acts e.g). That is pure for them. Verily Allah is All aware what they do” [24:30].
https://www.quranexplorer.com/blog/Education-In-The-Light-Of-Sunnah-And-Qura%27an/What_islam_says_about_Pornography
Why do you think they make their women hide all their skin? Even ankles and noses are considered porn by them
(https://image.europafm.com/clipping/cmsimages02/2016/08/19/7CBA1A4F-DB3C-420F-864E-A2379B8EDE97/51.jpg)
Lets check in on Brazil, one of the most religious christian countries on earth:
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Post by: jorma on January 10, 2023, 11:59:58 AM
you are a pretty shit progressive my dude :lol
facts are facts and the only well adjusted religion on the planet is asatro, and their answer to all of your philosofical questions above involve a lot of violence :hulk
Post by: Tasty on January 10, 2023, 12:18:11 PM
i was wondering why nintex put this in the culture war thread, and now i see the progressives getting salty about this even though it should be a fucking joyous occasion for them that a notorious private fiefdom might get dismantled
but since they hate desantis and love disney they get mad instead. idpol is amazing! :lol
Rubio and DeDantis have the right attitude on Disney.
Post by: james on January 10, 2023, 12:42:04 PM
why are you only posting from the quran when you have equally deranged shit in both the torah and the bible?
you are a pretty shit progressive my dude :lol
facts are facts and the only well adjusted religion on the planet is asatro, and their answer to all of your philosofical questions above involve a lot of violence :hulk
The bible literally starts with God dropping a NAKED man into a garden, saying "my man needs some pussy" and dropping in a NAKED woman so they can have fun sex in their fun sex garden.
Its extremely sex positive.
Note: Bible is pretty boring so thats as far as I got
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on January 10, 2023, 01:27:34 PM
Quote“I’m like, ‘This can’t be real,’” said Ms. Wedatalla, who in a public forum described herself as Sudanese. “As a Muslim and a Black person, I don’t feel like I belong, and I don’t think I’ll ever belong in a community where they don’t value me as a member, and they don’t show the same respect that I show them.”
multiple warnings prior to showing it, full context provided, and the opportunity to not view it, and instead of raising concerns directly or havibng a conversation about why those precautions were not sufficient they went straight to their superiors to get them fired.
Funny sense of 'respect'.
Post by: Nintex on January 10, 2023, 01:43:32 PM
You know Islam is basicallly doing those "Cute vs. Slut" or "LinkedIn vs. OnlyFans" things right?Normal, well adjusted religions:
"What is the meaning of life? What happens after death? How does one have a fulfilling time on earth?
Islam:
"YOU DREW WHAT??? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE *amazon.com: boxcutters*"
is one of those normal well adjusted religions in the tweets linked directly above your post? :lol
???
Allah says in the Quran, “Tell the believing men to lower their gaze (from Looking at Forbidden things), And protect their private parts (from illegal sexual Acts e.g). That is pure for them. Verily Allah is All aware what they do” [24:30].
https://www.quranexplorer.com/blog/Education-In-The-Light-Of-Sunnah-And-Qura%27an/What_islam_says_about_Pornography
Why do you think they make their women hide all their skin? Even ankles and noses are considered porn by them
(https://image.europafm.com/clipping/cmsimages02/2016/08/19/7CBA1A4F-DB3C-420F-864E-A2379B8EDE97/51.jpg)
Lets check in on Brazil, one of the most religious christian countries on earth:
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https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.2dec46aacab712b1b247177a132476de?rik=FjmI5LhMhPTzjg&riu=http%3a%2f%2fs.glbimg.com%2fjo%2fg1%2ff%2foriginal%2f2012%2f02%2f19%2fmocidade2.jpg&ehk=UkLjSXfYtjVOtKtp3T3zJz2czVXQ9o79nls%2fIQfcYTU%3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0[close][close]
They're all covered up in public, but not in their private harems where they live out their breeder fantasies.
Post by: Polident Hive on January 10, 2023, 02:38:32 PM
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So last semester for a global art history class, she took many precautions before showing a 14th-century painting of Islam’s founder.
In the syllabus, she warned that images of holy figures, including the Prophet Muhammad and the Buddha, would be shown in the course. She asked students to contact her with any concerns, and she said no one did.
In class, she prepped students, telling them that in a few minutes, the painting would be displayed, in case anyone wanted to leave.
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In a December interview with the school newspaper, the student who complained to the administration, Aram Wedatalla, described being blindsided by the image.
https://youtu.be/l4UFQWKjy_I
Post by: Uncle on January 10, 2023, 03:51:44 PM
why are you only posting from the quran when you have equally deranged shit in both the torah and the bible?
you are a pretty shit progressive my dude :lol
facts are facts and the only well adjusted religion on the planet is asatro, and their answer to all of your philosofical questions above involve a lot of violence :hulk
The bible literally starts with God dropping a NAKED man into a garden, saying "my man needs some pussy" and dropping in a NAKED woman so they can have fun sex in their fun sex garden.
Its extremely sex positive.
Note: Bible is pretty boring so thats as far as I got
you weren't reading the bible, you were playing a sims mod
Post by: benjipwns on January 10, 2023, 06:33:13 PM
According to the student and the NYT article, the student did approach (online) the professor after the class to complain which led the professor to ask their superior about it and the superior confirmed the professor did nothing wrong, the professor still chose to apologize to the student and the student still chose to elevate the matter because according to the student they did not feel the professor was listening to their concerns.Quote“I’m like, ‘This can’t be real,’” said Ms. Wedatalla, who in a public forum described herself as Sudanese. “As a Muslim and a Black person, I don’t feel like I belong, and I don’t think I’ll ever belong in a community where they don’t value me as a member, and they don’t show the same respect that I show them.”
multiple warnings prior to showing it, full context provided, and the opportunity to not view it, and instead of raising concerns directly or havibng a conversation about why those precautions were not sufficient they went straight to their superiors to get them fired.
Funny sense of 'respect'.
Post by: BIONIC on January 10, 2023, 07:36:48 PM
Post by: Tasty on January 10, 2023, 10:08:20 PM
why are you only posting from the quran when you have equally deranged shit in both the torah and the bible?
you are a pretty shit progressive my dude :lol
facts are facts and the only well adjusted religion on the planet is asatro, and their answer to all of your philosofical questions above involve a lot of violence :hulk
The bible literally starts with God dropping a NAKED man into a garden, saying "my man needs some pussy" and dropping in a NAKED woman so they can have fun sex in their fun sex garden.
Its extremely sex positive.
Note: Bible is pretty boring so thats as far as I got
Really? The flood was right after and pretty epic.
Post by: Uncle on January 10, 2023, 10:50:04 PM
why are you only posting from the quran when you have equally deranged shit in both the torah and the bible?
you are a pretty shit progressive my dude :lol
facts are facts and the only well adjusted religion on the planet is asatro, and their answer to all of your philosofical questions above involve a lot of violence :hulk
The bible literally starts with God dropping a NAKED man into a garden, saying "my man needs some pussy" and dropping in a NAKED woman so they can have fun sex in their fun sex garden.
Its extremely sex positive.
Note: Bible is pretty boring so thats as far as I got
Really? The flood was right after and pretty epic.
you weren't reading the bible, you were playing halo
Post by: james on January 11, 2023, 12:12:10 AM
why are you only posting from the quran when you have equally deranged shit in both the torah and the bible?
you are a pretty shit progressive my dude :lol
facts are facts and the only well adjusted religion on the planet is asatro, and their answer to all of your philosofical questions above involve a lot of violence :hulk
The bible literally starts with God dropping a NAKED man into a garden, saying "my man needs some pussy" and dropping in a NAKED woman so they can have fun sex in their fun sex garden.
Its extremely sex positive.
Note: Bible is pretty boring so thats as far as I got
Really? The flood was right after and pretty epic.
Is that where bikinis come from?
Post by: paprikastaude on January 11, 2023, 09:27:24 AM
Post by: BIONIC on January 11, 2023, 09:47:44 AM
Post by: Tasty on January 11, 2023, 10:51:06 AM
why are you only posting from the quran when you have equally deranged shit in both the torah and the bible?
you are a pretty shit progressive my dude :lol
facts are facts and the only well adjusted religion on the planet is asatro, and their answer to all of your philosofical questions above involve a lot of violence :hulk
The bible literally starts with God dropping a NAKED man into a garden, saying "my man needs some pussy" and dropping in a NAKED woman so they can have fun sex in their fun sex garden.
Its extremely sex positive.
Note: Bible is pretty boring so thats as far as I got
Really? The flood was right after and pretty epic.
you weren't reading the bible, you were playing halo
Is that why my family barely went to church and we're into Nintendo, while my cousins' fam in Virginia were super into Xbox and Jesus?
Post by: Potato on January 11, 2023, 03:03:58 PM
https://theconversation.com/islamic-paintings-of-the-prophet-muhammad-are-an-important-piece-of-history-heres-why-art-historians-teach-them-197277
Post by: Nintex on January 11, 2023, 03:32:53 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on January 11, 2023, 06:08:57 PM
Academics getting restless over this Hamlin's situation
https://theconversation.com/islamic-paintings-of-the-prophet-muhammad-are-an-important-piece-of-history-heres-why-art-historians-teach-them-197277
As they should be. It's really insane that a university took such an anti-intellectual stance.
Post by: Nintex on January 11, 2023, 06:21:31 PM
This case would be perfect for a Better Call Saul episode.Academics getting restless over this Hamlin's situation
https://theconversation.com/islamic-paintings-of-the-prophet-muhammad-are-an-important-piece-of-history-heres-why-art-historians-teach-them-197277
As they should be. It's really insane that a university took such an anti-intellectual stance.
Jimmy represents the crazy person, Howard Hamlin the university.
Post by: benjipwns on January 11, 2023, 10:53:23 PM
Post by: Rufus on January 12, 2023, 12:05:23 PM
https://twitter.com/WadeLitchfield/status/1613348525148114944
Post by: james on January 12, 2023, 02:25:53 PM
Post by: james on January 12, 2023, 03:31:28 PM
:pika
Post by: Potato on January 12, 2023, 03:34:16 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on January 12, 2023, 04:00:41 PM
https://twitter.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1613300066013298689
:pika
And the interviewer has been exposed to be a serial sexual abuser and went into a psych ward.
Post by: Uncle on January 12, 2023, 04:01:28 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on January 12, 2023, 04:04:23 PM
holy shit it's the man from your avatar
Don’t you dare besmirch The Great Lou Dobbs!
Post by: BIONIC on January 12, 2023, 04:06:21 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on January 12, 2023, 06:15:34 PM
https://twitter.com/RealScreenGeek/status/1613281340161400832
https://mobile.twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/1613250014150791168
:lol
Post by: Boredfrom on January 12, 2023, 07:00:46 PM
https://twitter.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1613300066013298689
:pika
And the interviewer has been exposed to be a serial sexual abuser and went into a psych ward.
:delicious :spiders
Post by: benjipwns on January 12, 2023, 07:25:56 PM
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Aram Wedatalla, who is the head of Hamline’s Muslim Student Association, said she was blindsided by an image of the Prophet Muhammad presented in her World Art class at Hamline last fall.(https://i.imgur.com/q1DuuBq.png)
“I’m 23 years old. I have never once seen an image of the Prophet,” said Wedatalla fighting back tears during a press conference held Wednesday at the Minneapolis headquarters of the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR-MN).
CAIR-MN executive director Jaylani Hussein said most Muslims around the world oppose the public display of images of the Prophet Muhammad. To show the image of the Prophet, said Hussein, is deeply offensive. And he called that violation of the prohibition an act of Islamophobia. And he said it doesn’t matter that the instructor warned students before she showed the image.
“In reality a trigger warning is an indication that you are going to do harm,” he said.
Post by: Nintex on January 12, 2023, 07:27:29 PM
Post by: Uncle on January 12, 2023, 07:40:57 PM
Post by: Boredfrom on January 12, 2023, 07:43:30 PM
https://twitter.com/_cingraham/status/1613564127385128960QuoteAram Wedatalla, who is the head of Hamline’s Muslim Student Association, said she was blindsided by an image of the Prophet Muhammad presented in her World Art class at Hamline last fall.(https://i.imgur.com/q1DuuBq.png)
“I’m 23 years old. I have never once seen an image of the Prophet,” said Wedatalla fighting back tears during a press conference held Wednesday at the Minneapolis headquarters of the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR-MN).
CAIR-MN executive director Jaylani Hussein said most Muslims around the world oppose the public display of images of the Prophet Muhammad. To show the image of the Prophet, said Hussein, is deeply offensive. And he called that violation of the prohibition an act of Islamophobia. And he said it doesn’t matter that the instructor warned students before she showed the image.
“In reality a trigger warning is an indication that you are going to do harm,” he said.
I like when idiots are the cause of the things they are fighting against...
What are your opinions of Muslim women that don't want to use the hijab, my dear?
Post by: HaughtyFrank on January 12, 2023, 08:04:44 PM
Post by: BIONIC on January 12, 2023, 08:25:43 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on January 12, 2023, 08:34:13 PM
Muslim Group Urges the Reinstatement of Fired U.S. Professor, Saying the Prophet Muhammad Painting She Showed to Students Was Not Islamophobic
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The Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC) has published a statement urging the reinstatement of an art history professor who was fired from Hamline University in Minnesota after showing her class Medieval paintings depicting the Prophet Muhammad. The high-profile and heated dispute over her dismissal has pitted academic freedom against the risk of causing offense to Muslim students.
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Now MPAC, a national American Muslim advocacy and public policy organization, has also expressed “great concern” in a statement of support for Prater that calls for the university to reverse its decision and “to take compensatory action to ameliorate the situation.”
“The painting was not Islamophobic,” according to the statement. “In fact, it was commissioned by a fourteenth-century Muslim king in order to honor the Prophet, depicting the first Quranic revelation from the angel Gabriel.
“As a Muslim organization, we recognize the validity and ubiquity of an Islamic viewpoint that discourages or forbids any depictions of the Prophet, especially if done in a distasteful or disrespectful manner,” the council said. “However, we also recognize the historical reality that other viewpoints have existed and that there have been some Muslims, including and especially Shīʿī Muslims, who have felt no qualms in pictorially representing the Prophet (although often veiling his face out of respect).”
The council’s statement continues: “Even if it is the case that many Muslims feel uncomfortable with such depictions, Dr. Prater was trying to emphasize a key principle of religious literacy: religions are not monolithic in nature, but rather, internally diverse,” the council explained. “This principle should be appreciated in order to combat Islamophobia, which is often premised on flattening out Islam and viewing the Islamic tradition in an essentialist and reductionist manner.”
In fact, the statement stated, “the professor should be thanked for her role in educating students, Muslim and non-Muslim alike, and for doing so in a critically empathetic manner.”
I kind of love how the language the university exposes them so hard
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Weeks after the lecture, Aram Wedatalla, who is president of the university’s Muslim Students Association, reported the professor to the university administrators, after which the dean of students dispatched a university-wide email addressing the “undeniably[…] Islamophobic” incident.
It's so obvious that they didn't have any clue what they were talking about.
Post by: Polident Hive on January 12, 2023, 08:39:45 PM
Post by: Uncle on January 12, 2023, 10:13:51 PM
Oh no, I’ve seen a tasteful artistic depiction of a dude :walkaway
gay :ufup
Post by: Potato on January 12, 2023, 11:56:31 PM
https://news.artnet.com/art-world/fired-professor-hamline-not-islamophobic-2241214
Muslim Group Urges the Reinstatement of Fired U.S. Professor, Saying the Prophet Muhammad Painting She Showed to Students Was Not IslamophobicQuoteThe Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC) has published a statement urging the reinstatement of an art history professor who was fired from Hamline University in Minnesota after showing her class Medieval paintings depicting the Prophet Muhammad. The high-profile and heated dispute over her dismissal has pitted academic freedom against the risk of causing offense to Muslim students.QuoteNow MPAC, a national American Muslim advocacy and public policy organization, has also expressed “great concern” in a statement of support for Prater that calls for the university to reverse its decision and “to take compensatory action to ameliorate the situation.”
“The painting was not Islamophobic,” according to the statement. “In fact, it was commissioned by a fourteenth-century Muslim king in order to honor the Prophet, depicting the first Quranic revelation from the angel Gabriel.
“As a Muslim organization, we recognize the validity and ubiquity of an Islamic viewpoint that discourages or forbids any depictions of the Prophet, especially if done in a distasteful or disrespectful manner,” the council said. “However, we also recognize the historical reality that other viewpoints have existed and that there have been some Muslims, including and especially Shīʿī Muslims, who have felt no qualms in pictorially representing the Prophet (although often veiling his face out of respect).”
The council’s statement continues: “Even if it is the case that many Muslims feel uncomfortable with such depictions, Dr. Prater was trying to emphasize a key principle of religious literacy: religions are not monolithic in nature, but rather, internally diverse,” the council explained. “This principle should be appreciated in order to combat Islamophobia, which is often premised on flattening out Islam and viewing the Islamic tradition in an essentialist and reductionist manner.”
In fact, the statement stated, “the professor should be thanked for her role in educating students, Muslim and non-Muslim alike, and for doing so in a critically empathetic manner.”
I kind of love how the language the university exposes them so hardQuoteWeeks after the lecture, Aram Wedatalla, who is president of the university’s Muslim Students Association, reported the professor to the university administrators, after which the dean of students dispatched a university-wide email addressing the “undeniably[…] Islamophobic” incident.
It's so obvious that they didn't have any clue what they were talking about.
The The Muslim Public Affairs Council is being undeniably islamophobic
Post by: BisMarckie on January 13, 2023, 12:45:22 AM
in fact a trigger warning shows premeditation, the proper way is to show the image and say "oops, wrong slide, well I guess since it's already up we'll talk about it"
You also wait for the middle of the semester with the heavy hitters when almost nobody bothers to show up. Amateur mistake :ufup
Post by: benjipwns on January 13, 2023, 01:15:40 AM
This was in October so maybe it was just the start testing to see who was still paying attention and the whole thing about the Muhammed painting has covered up just what sick depraved shit the professor was going to show next.in fact a trigger warning shows premeditation, the proper way is to show the image and say "oops, wrong slide, well I guess since it's already up we'll talk about it"
You also wait for the middle of the semester with the heavy hitters when almost nobody bothers to show up. Amateur mistake :ufup
Post by: Potato on January 13, 2023, 04:00:42 AM
Post by: jorma on January 13, 2023, 05:17:04 AM
This was in October so maybe it was just the start testing to see who was still paying attention and the whole thing about the Muhammed painting has covered up just what sick depraved shit the professor was going to show next.in fact a trigger warning shows premeditation, the proper way is to show the image and say "oops, wrong slide, well I guess since it's already up we'll talk about it"
You also wait for the middle of the semester with the heavy hitters when almost nobody bothers to show up. Amateur mistake :ufup
spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: Nintex on January 13, 2023, 01:59:55 PM
https://twitter.com/Bolverk15/status/1613928091516026880 (https://twitter.com/Bolverk15/status/1613928091516026880)
Post by: HaughtyFrank on January 13, 2023, 02:01:20 PM
Post by: Nintex on January 13, 2023, 03:34:23 PM
Post by: Uncle on January 13, 2023, 03:52:42 PM
https://twitter.com/NickAdamsinUSA/status/1613992443900268547
https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-need-to-talk-about-nick-adams-alpha-male.662104/
(https://i.imgur.com/YYxvn1e.png)
Post by: benjipwns on January 13, 2023, 09:01:20 PM
https://twitter.com/NickAdamsinUSA/status/1613992443900268547Wrong, proper alpha male method is:
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/170/581/b63.png)
Post by: BIONIC on January 13, 2023, 09:08:07 PM
Post by: Himu on January 14, 2023, 05:12:53 AM
Post by: benjipwns on January 14, 2023, 08:09:35 PM
https://twitter.com/TateTheTalisman/status/1613983100522074112
Post by: Himu on January 15, 2023, 05:35:32 AM
https://youtu.be/9nE3EQEBzc0
This was fantastic and a real conversation.
I want to say that as a traditional man that I feel that men have a predisposition to want to be useful. I think it is how God made us.
I will say that, and the discord and the people of this forum knows this first hand, that it took me a long time to be a healthy man and to learn the damaging ways that hurt women.
When you marry a woman, often the man works to help elevate her, make life easier, and works harder for her and his family. He makes choices to make things better, he sacrifices to achieve this.
I think many people are under valuing the notion that many roles are pre-baked into our software. Men are more violent than women but what comes with that is the need to control that violence and learn the responsibility to wield it.
Men are predisposed to want to want to provide. Women seem to be predisposed to want to care for their family and children. I believe things get wonky and oppressive when the roles become super strict, like a man that doesn't want his wife to work when she clearly wants to or when he thinks it's not a man's place to cook or clean or help out or help rear his own damn children.
It is my opinion that these roles aren't bad but natural order, as the majority of straight women still seek men with traditional values (of protecting women, of providing for women) even when they're feminists.
That said, it's good to be flexible.
I reject the notion that men can't be soft or emotional. If that's the case how can a man be a good father? When I felt that men couldn't be emotional it came from a place of nothing but insecurity. How can he know how to love his children and actually show it besides providing? So I think there's a unique mix a man has to inhibit.
I think in order for a man to transcend and be healthy and the way God made him he needs to be willing to self sacrifice, willing to acquiesce and know how to pick his battles, willing to be tough in the face of adversity, but also willing to be good in the face of such a tough world, and willing to be soft and doting and protective to those that need it. How can a man be good if he lets the world beat him down and change his character?
Finally, a man doesn't talk. He does. This sounds contradictory to men needing to know when to be soft but it's really not. When a woman relies on a man for protection talking is just beating your chest. She needs to see actual action and grit to believe in her man. This ties into the self sacrifice and the leadership inherent to manhood.
When Benji was arguing with me about conscription I just feel that self sacrifice is a part of being a man, whether on the battlefield or putting food on the table.
I think our masculinity these days is in search of becoming more of a balanced man. A good man with boundaries so to speak rather than the Fred Flintstone domineering energy of our forefathers or the overt weakness of a man that lets the world trample over him.
Post by: Himu on January 15, 2023, 06:26:48 AM
:dead :dead :dead
I mostly get this from people on the left but it's still hilarious.
Post by: BIONIC on January 15, 2023, 08:04:13 AM
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it took me a long time to be a healthy man
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Post by: Nintex on January 15, 2023, 08:23:13 AM
Post by: Potato on January 15, 2023, 03:04:32 PM
Post by: Uncle on January 15, 2023, 03:19:22 PM
Post by: Potato on January 15, 2023, 03:26:54 PM
that implies that taking responsibility isn't or shouldn't be the top priority for womenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbA-KAgj-ko
spoiler (click to show/hide)
But seriously, nothing I said precludes a woman from responsibility, just that it is a core value of what I consider "being a man".
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Post by: Himu on January 15, 2023, 05:18:48 PM
that implies that taking responsibility isn't or shouldn't be the top priority for women
It is and should be but with men it can be higher stakes. Since the man is often the leader, responsibility is everything, including over the family because he offers his protection.
Post by: benjipwns on January 15, 2023, 05:23:12 PM
When Benji was arguing with me about conscription I just feel that self sacrifice is a part of being a man, whether on the battlefield or putting food on the table.But conscription isn't self-sacrifice. And in any case, blind self-sacrifice is stupid. Why should society, or anyone, respect someone who stupidly risks just because they risked something?
Do you know why a casino will put a board with the last five spins or whatever next to the roulette wheel?
Post by: Potato on January 15, 2023, 05:28:15 PM
I don't think it's higher stakes for men, just usually applied to different priorities. Personal responsibility is one of the most important things humans can take on and is what separates good men from others.that implies that taking responsibility isn't or shouldn't be the top priority for women
It is and should be but with men it can be higher stakes. Since the man is often the leader, responsibility is everything, including over the family because he offers his protection.
Post by: Himu on January 15, 2023, 05:33:07 PM
I don't think it's higher stakes for men, just usually applied to different priorities. Personal responsibility is one of the most important things humans can take on and is what separates good men from others.that implies that taking responsibility isn't or shouldn't be the top priority for women
It is and should be but with men it can be higher stakes. Since the man is often the leader, responsibility is everything, including over the family because he offers his protection.
I agree. It's also true of good women. It's why I think a lot of the red pill movement is completely daft, despite having some element of truth. They complain about hoes and women with body count, but who is having sex with as many women as possible outside of marriage? You can't have one without the other.
I agree that responsibility is something both need but it's a different kind of responsibility. But I think for men it is higher stakes because of what he's personally responsible over and that's his household's safety and putting food on the table. So from my perspective that's higher stake. Throw in needing to know how to protect yourself in case shit hits the fan and have even more responsibility.
When Benji was arguing with me about conscription I just feel that self sacrifice is a part of being a man, whether on the battlefield or putting food on the table.But conscription isn't self-sacrifice. And in any case, blind self-sacrifice is stupid. Why should society, or anyone, respect someone who stupidly risks just because they risked something?
Do you know why a casino will put a board with the last five spins or whatever next to the roulette wheel?
I don't know. All I know is that when I see a Veteran I tell them,"thank you for your service" because I think it's the right thing to do, and help out at homeless places when I can (which unfortunately a lot of vets tend to be).
Post by: benjipwns on January 15, 2023, 05:37:13 PM
But I think for men it is higher stakes because of what he's personally responsible over and that's his household's safety and putting food on the table. So from my perspective that's higher stake. Throw in needing to know how to protect yourself in case shit hits the fan and have even more responsibility.You are imposing responsibilities on people without their consent. It is not my place to deny someone "manhood" simply because I am ignorant of their circumstances.
I don't know. All I know is that when I see a Veteran I tell them,"thank you for your service" because I think it's the right thing to do, and help out at homeless places when I can (which unfortunately a lot of vets tend to be).But what does this have anything to do with self-sacrifice?
Post by: Himu on January 15, 2023, 05:42:16 PM
But I think for men it is higher stakes because of what he's personally responsible over and that's his household's safety and putting food on the table. So from my perspective that's higher stake. Throw in needing to know how to protect yourself in case shit hits the fan and have even more responsibility.You are imposing responsibilities on people without their consent.
Not really. I said very clearly,"my perspective." In my perspective, a man provides. A man protects. I can't change the world but I can certainly live it by my ideals. As a religious man, I deny subjective morality and think a big reason western society is in this pickle is because we have replaced religion with idolatry with the self and I, me and my, the individual has become a worship symbol rather than using that I to contribute to the whole.
In Islam it is a man's duty to provide. Literal religious duty. It doesn't get more clearer than that.
Post by: benjipwns on January 15, 2023, 05:54:20 PM
Not really. I said very clearly,"my perspective." In my perspective, a man provides. A man protects. I can't change the world but I can certainly live it by my ideals. As a religious man, I deny subjective morality and think a big reason western society is in this pickle is because we have replaced religion with idolatry with the self and I, me and my, the individual has become a worship symbol rather than using that I to contribute to the whole.Here you state it's just "your perspective" and then you go on to "deny" subjective morality.
Post by: Himu on January 15, 2023, 06:03:01 PM
Not really. I said very clearly,"my perspective." In my perspective, a man provides. A man protects. I can't change the world but I can certainly live it by my ideals. As a religious man, I deny subjective morality and think a big reason western society is in this pickle is because we have replaced religion with idolatry with the self and I, me and my, the individual has become a worship symbol rather than using that I to contribute to the whole.Here you state it's just "your perspective" and then you go on to "deny" subjective morality.
I'm giving out my opinion on men and how we should behave. You accused that of "imposing responsibilities". Make up your mind. If I'm giving my subjective opinion, as you claim, then you certainly can't accuse me of "imposing responsibilities". In the larger spectrum, I prefer a mix of communal and individualistic. If a society is too group oriented then it steals from the individual's ability to thrive; an overly individualistic society is an inherently selfish society.
But it's clear that communal societies lead to better and more healthy families and therefore more happiness if everyone knows their role. Worship of the individual, something that was at the forefront of the Cold War to separate itself from the USSR, is a poisonous ideology that leads to social stagnation. Everyone is allowed their own opinion and their own perspective. The problem becomes when people think their own individual opinions allow them to skirt their duty to their family, their people, their nation. It's the opposite extreme of overly worship of the group that you see with communists and leftists.
Post by: benjipwns on January 15, 2023, 06:24:12 PM
I'm giving out my opinion on men and how we should behave. You accused that of "imposing responsibilities". Make up your mind. If I'm giving my subjective opinion, as you claim, then you certainly can't accuse me of "imposing responsibilities".Of course I can. If you're merely offering a subjective position, I can still reject it, as I did when I mentioned I wouldn't deny someone "manhood" because of my own ignorance. But in any case, you said you "deny" subjective morality, so you can't have been merely giving your personal subjective opinion.
In the larger spectrum, I prefer a mix of communal and individualistic. If a society is too group oriented then it steals from the individual's ability to thrive; an overly individualistic society is an inherently selfish society.This is all subjective. You're defining "their role", "their duty", "their people", "their nation", etc. as what you personally want people to be required to do, that, not allowing individuality, diversity and democracy, is what's selfish. You're denying legitimacy to anyone who does not choose as you wish they do.
But it's clear that communal societies lead to better and more healthy families and therefore more happiness if everyone knows their role. Worship of the individual, something that was at the forefront of the Cold War to separate itself from the USSR, is a poisonous ideology that leads to social stagnation. Everyone is allowed their own opinion and their own perspective. The problem becomes when people think their own individual opinions allow them to skirt their duty to their family, their people, their nation. It's the opposite extreme of overly worship of the group that you see with communists and leftists.
And the United States absolutely did not do "worship of the individual" during the Cold War, especially not as an "ideology" as almost literally everything was about your duty to the state in its insane competition with another, failing (SAD!), state. The American position during the Cold War was literally what you advocate for: submission of the individual to "their role" and "their duty" imposed by the circumstance of their birth. The ultimate irony of the Cold War is that American self-doubt caused it to argue against the superiority of the very position it claimed to be defending.
Post by: Nintex on January 15, 2023, 06:47:54 PM
Not really. I said very clearly,"my perspective." In my perspective, a man provides. A man protects. I can't change the world but I can certainly live it by my ideals. As a religious man, I deny subjective morality and think a big reason western society is in this pickle is because we have replaced religion with idolatry with the self and I, me and my, the individual has become a worship symbol rather than using that I to contribute to the whole.Here you state it's just "your perspective" and then you go on to "deny" subjective morality.
I'm giving out my opinion on men and how we should behave. You accused that of "imposing responsibilities". Make up your mind. If I'm giving my subjective opinion, as you claim, then you certainly can't accuse me of "imposing responsibilities". In the larger spectrum, I prefer a mix of communal and individualistic. If a society is too group oriented then it steals from the individual's ability to thrive; an overly individualistic society is an inherently selfish society.
But it's clear that communal societies lead to better and more healthy families and therefore more happiness if everyone knows their role. Worship of the individual, something that was at the forefront of the Cold War to separate itself from the USSR, is a poisonous ideology that leads to social stagnation. Everyone is allowed their own opinion and their own perspective. The problem becomes when people think their own individual opinions allow them to skirt their duty to their family, their people, their nation. It's the opposite extreme of overly worship of the group that you see with communists and leftists.
https://mobile.twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1614730195767906305 (https://mobile.twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1614730195767906305)
Post by: benjipwns on January 15, 2023, 06:51:09 PM
Post by: Himu on January 15, 2023, 07:30:01 PM
The rationale that some people can do this, anyone can do that makes for a bad society. It's why only a quarter of black women are married and why over 3/4's of black babies born are out of wedlock. Subjective morality to a fault leads to society's dissolution. Without the family unit we all suffer, and without a family we have a poorer and more divided nation overall. Overly individualistic societies produce selfish societies where people can make having something like healthcare be seen as a privilege. Don't get me wrong, overly communal societies can be dangerous in another way but America and the way it's going isn't productive, healthy, or sustainable and I will die on that hill. Extreme libertarianism comes at a price.
Post by: benjipwns on January 15, 2023, 07:33:58 PM
Moreover, Benji. I am arguing from objective morality viewpoint.Not according to yourself:
Not really. I said very clearly,"my perspective."
I'm giving out my opinion on men and how we should behave. You accused that of "imposing responsibilities". Make up your mind. If I'm giving my subjective opinion, as you claim, then you certainly can't accuse me of "imposing responsibilities".
Don't get me wrong, overly communal societies can be dangerous in another way but America and the way it's going isn't productive, healthy, or sustainable and I will die on that hill. Extreme libertarianism comes at a price.Meanwhile in reality, there's more of the state and more Americans demanding mandatory collectivism in the social, cultural and political spheres than ever. Which is why you created this thread in the first place.
Post by: Himu on January 15, 2023, 07:58:43 PM
American society in the past struck a line between collectivist and individualist. Both, at an extreme, are dangerous to society for totally different reasons.
A person should be able to live their life in the way they deem fit and articulate their thoughts so long as in a respectful manner, but also know where their duty lies. Sure, you can have sex with a woman before marriage if you choose. But if you get her pregnant you should do your duty and marry her. That was the responsibility we had in the past. Now a man just backs out and a kid grows up without a father and society suffers due to an individual's selfishness that acquiesced from his responsibility as a man.
When I say communal, I mean things like Asia and Africa where everyone knows their role and works to producing a healthy, educated, informed society. Not the collectivist thought of leftists.
Post by: benjipwns on January 15, 2023, 08:14:38 PM
You're also again conflating subjective "duties" with objective truths. People actually ditched their kids all the time in the past. What's the rate of kids without fathers in 1850? We have no fucking clue. I just did a quick search to find out how far back these numbers go, didn't even discount all the shitty borderline fascist "America First" sources that turned up (since their sources seemed to be cromulent) and none of them go back before 1965. You claim it's some unmeasurable rise in individual selfishness when we have an actually measurable rise in the size of the welfare state that actively punishes fathers staying in the home.
Post by: Polident Hive on January 16, 2023, 10:30:07 PM
tbh don’t know if this qualifies as culture war babble. But amazing to spike the big second chance you got. Deal with Amazon was at the right time when they needed content. A third chance from another steaming service? Doubtful when they’re actively cancelling completed works.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on January 19, 2023, 11:53:00 AM
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objective place of morality such as God.
:era
Post by: Potato on January 19, 2023, 05:12:11 PM
Bike helmet laws are racist (https://slate.com/technology/2023/01/bike-helmets-cyclist-deaths-do-you-need-to-wear.html)
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Last year, health officials in Seattle decided to stop requiring bicyclists to wear helmets. Independent research found that nearly half of Seattle’s helmet tickets in recent years went to unhoused people, while Black and Native American cyclists in the city were four times and two times more likely, respectively, than white cyclists to be cited.
Whether people should wear helmets was not the motivation behind the repeal, King County Councilmember Girmay Zahilay said at the time. “The question is whether a helmet law that is enforced by police, on balance, produces results that outweigh the harms the law creates.” For lawmakers, the answer was clear: The potential benefits of a helmet mandate were not worth the harms it did to marginalized Seattle residents.
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Gender neutral Brit Awards sees only men nominated in top category (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/01/12/brit-awards-2023-gender-neutral-best-artist-nominations-men/)
"What, I love gender neutral awards ceremonies now!"
- Misogynists
Post by: HaughtyFrank on January 19, 2023, 05:48:34 PM
https://twitter.com/aaronsibarium/status/1615812238757236736
Post by: benjipwns on January 19, 2023, 07:34:58 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 19, 2023, 11:13:49 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fm4ZFt8akAEb2aY?format=jpg&name=900x900)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fm4ZFuAagAEo63U?format=jpg&name=900x900)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fm4ZFt-aEAILqQa?format=jpg&name=small)
Post by: Potato on January 20, 2023, 05:31:44 AM
https://twitter.com/Unhoused_org/status/1415383511989686272 (https://twitter.com/Unhoused_org/status/1415383511989686272Unhoused)
Unhoused...
They're homeless and calling them something different doesn't change it you fucking weirdos.
Post by: HardcoreRetro on January 20, 2023, 06:36:49 AM
*A single teardrop runs down my cheek*
Post by: Uncle on January 20, 2023, 07:38:37 AM
*Watches as the unhoused unalive themselves in Minecraft*
*A single undry runs down my unmouth*
Post by: Himu on January 20, 2023, 08:54:03 AM
https://youtu.be/f-_78a0HXCY
Post by: james on January 20, 2023, 12:35:45 PM
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on January 20, 2023, 12:44:24 PM
Blue skies from pain?
Can you tell a green field from a cold steel rail?
A smile from a veil?
Do you think you can tell?
Did they get you to trade your heroes for ghosts?
Hot ashes for trees?
Hot air for a cool breeze?
Cold comfort for change?
Did you exchange a walk-on part in the war for a lead role in a cage?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on January 20, 2023, 12:46:06 PM
https://twitter.com/Unhoused_org/status/1415383511989686272 (https://twitter.com/Unhoused_org/status/1415383511989686272Unhoused)
Unhoused...
They're homeless and calling them something different doesn't change it you fucking weirdos.
the weird thing is the linguistic implication that yeah, they don't have a house, but they do have a home so, y'know, its not so bad
Post by: HaughtyFrank on January 20, 2023, 01:06:42 PM
Post by: james on January 20, 2023, 01:13:58 PM
I'm not sure I really get it either. People first language is something I can understand, even if I'm not sure it really makes a difference, but unhoused is just a new word that's used the exact same way?
Home is where the heart is
Post by: NekoFever on January 20, 2023, 06:21:14 PM
Post by: Nintex on January 20, 2023, 06:36:16 PM
I personally like my gas stove but I also have asthma so I'm conflicted and I'll have to wait for this trend to blow over before I'm welcome at the secret gamergate meet-ups again.
u?
Post by: Himu on January 20, 2023, 06:45:27 PM
(https://i.redd.it/je3kq32i07da1.png)
Arguably the greatest album ever made.
Post by: Himu on January 20, 2023, 06:47:45 PM
So you think you can tell heaven from hell?
Blue skies from pain?
Can you tell a green field from a cold steel rail?
A smile from a veil?
Do you think you can tell?
Did they get you to trade your heroes for ghosts?
Hot ashes for trees?
Hot air for a cool breeze?
Cold comfort for change?
Did you exchange a walk-on part in the war for a lead role in a cage?
Wrong album buddy but have a like for a classic song
Post by: Himu on January 20, 2023, 06:53:16 PM
https://youtu.be/eq15LFKW6iU
https://youtu.be/VuEHQwgHKjI
Post by: Nintex on January 20, 2023, 07:09:51 PM
What CIA fund pays shapiro that he can offer $30M contracts.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 20, 2023, 07:10:55 PM
Post by: Potato on January 21, 2023, 12:11:33 AM
Daily Wire and Crowder are beefing. This is a reminder to sign up for Daily Wire Plus.These shitheads will rot your brain. Don't watch them.
https://youtu.be/eq15LFKW6iU
https://youtu.be/VuEHQwgHKjI
Post by: benjipwns on January 21, 2023, 01:00:05 AM
Quote from: https://www.thedailybeast.com/facebook-and-instagram-free-the-nipplebut-only-for-trans-and-nonbinary-users
Meta’s Oversight Board, dubbed by CEO Mark Zuckerberg as the company’s “Supreme Court,” has decided it’s time to finally free the nipple on Instagram and Facebook—but only for some users. “The same image of female-presenting nipples would be prohibited if posted by a cisgender woman but permitted if posted by an individual self-identifying as non-binary,” the board clarified in its decision. The change to the long-standing policy comes after Instagram faced droves of complaints claiming the ban discriminated against transgender users. In the future, the company said it will rely on “human reviewers” to assess a user’s sex and gender identity, “as this policy applies to ‘female nipples,’” the board wrote. It will continue to examine “additional nipple-related exceptions based on contexts of protest, birth giving, after birth, and breastfeeding which it did not examine here, but also must be assessed,” the advisory board added.:phil
Post by: BIONIC on January 21, 2023, 01:09:58 AM
Post by: benjipwns on January 21, 2023, 01:34:40 AM
I predict the amount of thots and thirst traps identifying as non-binary to mysteriously shoot up by 1000%FACT CHECK: People lying on the internet for personal advantage is a right-wing fascist myth, bigot. :ufup
Post by: Himu on January 21, 2023, 01:41:39 AM
https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1616165397644087296
Post by: benjipwns on January 21, 2023, 01:49:02 AM
:elon
Post by: Himu on January 21, 2023, 01:51:11 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/UKd8JZt.png)
:elon
(https://i.imgur.com/H12qiqJ.gif)
This is a society without religion, God, and family.
Post by: Nintex on January 21, 2023, 05:17:53 AM
Come and take it buddy!
Post by: Himu on January 21, 2023, 08:57:16 AM
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrat-led-cities-already-moving-forward-gas-stove-bans-affect-millions
Daddy government is coming to save the planet! It's always about their way and forcing everyone to live the way they want to while reducing consumer choice at the same time. This time it's done all in the name of "saving the planet" yet not a single liberal or leftie gave a f about gas stoves until last yea and I lived in NYC, the city where almost everyone has a gas stove due to old buildings. It's all done to control you. Just like their Covid policies. Your thoughts on the LGBTQ. Whatever. The left always knows what's best for you.
Post by: Nintex on January 21, 2023, 10:05:04 AM
When you prepare a steak on a gas stove for example eventually you'll learn exactly how you should adjust the heat to get the best result.
A big flame for the perfect finish :delicious
Usually I'm more in favor of the modern solution but in this case it's not much of an improvement.
The induction plate or whatever it was called couldn't change temperatures on a whim so it was more difficult to get a steak right.
It is safer though, less chances of a gas leak and explosion for starters. Probably a better solution for the crowd that washes their chicken in the sink of which I assume there are many :trumps
Post by: HaughtyFrank on January 21, 2023, 12:29:50 PM
Post by: HardcoreRetro on January 21, 2023, 12:48:07 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 21, 2023, 09:45:14 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on January 21, 2023, 11:18:19 PM
Post by: Tasty on January 22, 2023, 12:13:00 AM
-me as I microwave my third Hot Pocket of the day
Post by: Sideshow Raheem on January 22, 2023, 12:52:31 AM
Post by: benjipwns on January 22, 2023, 01:57:27 AM
If I preorder Harry Potter the videogame am I worse than Hitler or Hitler and Stalin combined?The first thing. Stalin was the complete opposite of Hitler (source: 99.9% of people which makes it consensus) so combining them would be zero badness due to cancelling out. Really, you're more like Hitler, Trump and Joanne combined. I don't feel safe on The Bire anymore. I'm so tired.
Post by: Potato on January 22, 2023, 04:09:30 AM
If I preorder Harry Potter the videogame am I worse than Hitler or Hitler and Stalin combined?Ever heard of Pol Pot?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on January 22, 2023, 04:37:11 AM
If I preorder Harry Potter the videogame am I worse than Hitler or Hitler and Stalin combined?Ever heard of Pol Pot?
thats even harder to get the temperature right with on an electric stove
Post by: HaughtyFrank on January 22, 2023, 02:39:32 PM
Post by: Nintex on January 22, 2023, 02:52:57 PM
Had he completely ignored her she would've probably made a video about that.
Girl seems to think she's some kind of irresistible super model.
Post by: benjipwns on January 22, 2023, 03:15:52 PM
Don't look at the replies of the above post, the vicious men are posting a bunch of her selfies and stuff they claim are sexual just because it's lingerie or other sexy outfits. Like gawd, she's just trying to raise awareness and not increase her views even as she replies to everyone telling them to go see the full video on her tiktok because they'll see the man's crimes more clearly. ::)
Post by: Nintex on January 22, 2023, 03:27:05 PM
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on January 22, 2023, 03:38:02 PM
Post by: Potato on January 22, 2023, 03:52:48 PM
https://twitter.com/DelusionPosting/status/1617220580683698180Why is she filming in the gym? Did she ask for his consent?
Post by: benjipwns on January 22, 2023, 09:19:23 PM
Quote from: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11513143/Inside-world-incels-sinister-secret-codes-women-hating-men.html
THE INCEL CODESThese kinds of "news" articles always make we want to LDAR.
GIGACHAD
Extremely muscular man
CHAD
Conventionally attractive man
STACY
Conventionally attractive woman
BECKY
Physically plain woman
BLACK PILL
A fatalistic idea that an incel cannot improve their own situation and should accept their fate of unattractiveness, lack of wealth or social status
RED PILL
Refers to waking up from your 'normal' life of ignorance and seeing the world how it really is
BLUE PILL
A person who lives a conventional life, unaware of men’s 'oppression' by women
PURPLE PILL
Feeling unsure about conventional stances but rejecting a particularly gendered value system
LOOKSMAX
Using earnings, possessions, exercise or plastic surgery to maximise attractiveness
GOING ER
Inspired by US mass murderer, Elliot Rodger, means a killing spree
ROPE
Denotes suicide
LDAR
Translates to Lie Down And Rot, indicating there is no hope in life
Post by: james on January 22, 2023, 10:27:52 PM
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Newspaper tucked under car door handle..?
What could that mean? I’m freaking myself out because people online say it might be linked to trafficking, but it also could just be an advertisement..? The fact it was a plain old newspaper deliberately stuffed under my car door handle (and not any cars around me) scares me though. Happened in xx student parking lot for residents ;-; (I stupidly moved it before getting in my car or taking a picture because it was broad daylight, but I wanted to know if it’s happened to anyone else too).
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just a tip in general for everyone, whenever you get to your car immediately lock the doors and preferably don’t linger around, just start driving (especially at nighttime more than anything)
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Yo, happened to me too, I didn't touch it cuz trafficking stuff possibly buy I got it off with my car key.
Saw it on other cars too but didn't wanna risk it.
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Broad daylight dw you’re fine, but if you ever see something like that on your car at night you shouldn’t stay too long lol. Yeah that is a trafficking thing, and if I remember correctly it’s meant to distract while it gives the kidnapper enough time to reach them or it’s meant to mark a car they’re targeting. Either way get in your car immediately if you see that at night for sure because it’s not worth the chances
Post by: benjipwns on January 22, 2023, 11:17:53 PM
Post by: james on January 22, 2023, 11:19:31 PM
Seems like there'd be way better ways to kidnap people for trafficking than sticking a newspaper under door handles. Like I don't know, approaching them with a weapon? Having some burly mean looking guys? I'm just spitballing, james, what do you personally do?
I stick with the classics. White van with free candy sign. Tried and tested.
Post by: Uncle on January 23, 2023, 06:42:19 AM
Seems like there'd be way better ways to kidnap people for trafficking than sticking a newspaper under door handles. Like I don't know, approaching them with a weapon? Having some burly mean looking guys? I'm just spitballing, james, what do you personally do?
I stick with the classics. White van with free candy sign. Tried and tested.
this doesn't work that well anymore, the most attractive ones say "omg I didn't even know she was arrested" and continue with their business
Post by: HaughtyFrank on January 23, 2023, 08:43:23 AM
https://twitter.com/trad_west_/status/1616516618611265551
Bring back feudalism!
Post by: BIONIC on January 23, 2023, 08:53:01 AM
Post by: Uncle on January 23, 2023, 09:03:23 AM
1. did not have Disney+
2. did not have Xbox Game Pass
3. did not have Mt. Dew Game Fuel
4. did not have tendies
5. did not have choccy milk
5. did not have memes 8)
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on January 23, 2023, 10:36:35 AM
That's move #5237
Post by: james on January 23, 2023, 10:39:02 AM
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on January 23, 2023, 10:45:26 AM
Can you imagine oral sex before soap and running water
I can send you a link
Post by: Himu on January 23, 2023, 10:58:13 AM
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/01/19/18/66759553-0-image-a-17_1674152931224.jpg)Quote from: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11513143/Inside-world-incels-sinister-secret-codes-women-hating-men.htmlTHE INCEL CODESThese kinds of "news" articles always make we want to LDAR.
GIGACHAD
Extremely muscular man
CHAD
Conventionally attractive man
STACY
Conventionally attractive woman
BECKY
Physically plain woman
BLACK PILL
A fatalistic idea that an incel cannot improve their own situation and should accept their fate of unattractiveness, lack of wealth or social status
RED PILL
Refers to waking up from your 'normal' life of ignorance and seeing the world how it really is
BLUE PILL
A person who lives a conventional life, unaware of men’s 'oppression' by women
PURPLE PILL
Feeling unsure about conventional stances but rejecting a particularly gendered value system
LOOKSMAX
Using earnings, possessions, exercise or plastic surgery to maximise attractiveness
GOING ER
Inspired by US mass murderer, Elliot Rodger, means a killing spree
ROPE
Denotes suicide
LDAR
Translates to Lie Down And Rot, indicating there is no hope in life
Doesn't everyone say Chad these days? Like there's the whole Chad meme? With the chiseled bearded dude.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on January 23, 2023, 02:08:36 PM
Post by: james on January 23, 2023, 02:17:51 PM
Post by: Nintex on January 23, 2023, 04:20:03 PM
Going to start dropping Chad into professional meetings and see how it goes
My 50 y/o boss to the interns: "Do you know what 4chan is?"
The interns: :info
He's walking around with this idea that the new ChatGPT is going to solve things like school shootings.
Post by: BIONIC on January 23, 2023, 04:35:05 PM
Going to start dropping Chad into professional meetings and see how it goes
He's walking around with this idea that the new ChatGPT is going to solve things like school shootings.
:wut
Post by: Himu on January 23, 2023, 06:59:35 PM
Post by: Nintex on January 23, 2023, 07:04:03 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 23, 2023, 09:45:41 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on January 23, 2023, 10:37:34 PM
https://twitter.com/Samsaysbai/status/1617671642699935745
The console also boots up in about 5 seconds so the instant on mode honestly feels pointless
Post by: benjipwns on January 24, 2023, 06:30:27 PM
Quote from: https://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2023/01/23/the_naming_commission_comes_for_west_point_877225.html
The Commission recognizes that [defense] assets commemorating the Confederacy or an individual who voluntarily served with the Confederacy will continue to be identified after the submission of the Commission plan. The Commission recommends the base rename, remove, or modify any such assets identified in the future [emphasis added].:dead
The ramifications of the above remain to be seen, but already the U.S. Military Academy at West Point is undergoing a (shameful) transformation: its “Reconciliation Plaza” has begun to be dismantled and will soon be altered beyond recognition. The plaza, consisting of stone “markers” arranged on the academy’s grounds, was presented by the West Point Class of 1961 on the occasion of their fortieth reunion in 2001. Exactly a century prior to the 1961 members of the Long Gray Line, the school graduated two classes in 1861 – one in May, the other in June. Graduates served in both the Northern and Southern armies.
The precise purpose of Reconciliation Plaza was to “commemorate the reconciliation between North and South and dedicate this memorial to our classmates who died in service to our nation”
...
The markers, duly noted by the Commission, depicted “acts and events between 1861 and 1913 to serve as examples of reconciliation.”
...
At least two markers or exhibits described by the Commission deserve particular attention. They depicted the following acts or events:
“Marker 4 portrays a Confederate soldier providing water to a U.S. Soldier wounded by Confederate guns”; and,
“Marker 6 commemorates Confederate [Major General] Stephen Ramseur and two U.S. Army classmates from West Point who comforted him as he lay dying after a surprise attack by Ramseur’s army failed.”
Stephen Dodson Ramseur, who had sustained multiple wounds in battle prior to the October 1864 Battle of Cedar Creek – and, at 27, was the youngest West Point graduate to be promoted to major general – had just had his second horse shot from under him when he was hit in the lungs, a mortal wounding. Learning of his condition and subsequent capture by Union forces, several of Ramseur’s friends from West Point “came to his side,” among them his close friend, George Armstrong Custer. Ramseur, whose first wedding anniversary was days away, had just learned of the birth of his daughter.
Astoundingly, the Commission found the depiction of these acts to be within its remit and unacceptable to remain in place.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on January 24, 2023, 09:34:20 PM
:doge
Post by: Himu on January 24, 2023, 09:46:22 PM
Power button is communism I guess :sabu
Conservatives are ridiculous sometimes
Post by: Potato on January 24, 2023, 09:53:58 PM
Idiot Republican: "Fucking communists! I'm going to run all of my electrical shit endlessly to spite them!"
Also idiot Republican: "Why is my power bill so high?"
Post by: Himu on January 25, 2023, 07:27:18 AM
https://twitter.com/againstgrmrs/status/1548812576594837505
Post by: Himu on January 25, 2023, 09:49:13 AM
https://www.insider.com/ct-woman-coffee-shop-woke-complaints-2023-1
A Connecticut business owner named her new breakfast spot 'Woke' as a pun. But then some conservative residents mistook the name and complained
Post by: james on January 25, 2023, 01:03:10 PM
https://twitter.com/awrestaurants/status/1617975902004019231
Post by: HaughtyFrank on January 25, 2023, 05:46:42 PM
There's truly such an obsession with having someone being the first they simply erase the real firsts
Post by: Potato on January 25, 2023, 08:39:23 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on January 26, 2023, 11:09:46 AM
https://twitter.com/TheJoeySwoll/status/1618431647757766656
The weird thing is, I don't really doubt that attractive women get harassed at the gym, but some dude asking a question is not it.
Post by: Nintex on January 26, 2023, 02:53:14 PM
(https://i.imgflip.com/78w596.jpg)
"Sorry, is this machine taken?" :fbm
"EEEEEEEeeeekk!! he LOOKED at ME! Without signing up for my OnlyFans!" :stop
"Why are you talking to me. GO AWAY WEIRDO I'm trying to get a good shot of my ass" :six:
"Yeah run you creepy incel you're not welcome here. You'll never get a hot bod like this, why don't you kill yourself" :aloy
(https://i.imgflip.com/78w8id.jpg)
Post by: Nintex on January 26, 2023, 06:25:14 PM
:wut
Post by: BIONIC on January 26, 2023, 06:35:02 PM
Post by: Uncle on January 26, 2023, 06:35:14 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 26, 2023, 06:36:29 PM
Post by: Potato on January 26, 2023, 06:57:29 PM
https://twitter.com/APStylebook/status/1618658301750689792 (https://twitter.com/APStylebook/status/1618658301750689792)I am generally against using "the" labels as well, but not for the same reasons as stated in this tweet.
:wut
I believe journalists and anyone communicating professionally should be aiming for more precise language rather than just these generalised descriptions.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on January 26, 2023, 07:03:47 PM
https://twitter.com/APStylebook/status/1618658301750689792 (https://twitter.com/APStylebook/status/1618658301750689792)
:wut
It's crucial if we want to tackle the stigma of frenchness
Post by: Uncle on January 26, 2023, 07:17:02 PM
Post by: james on January 26, 2023, 07:18:17 PM
Try saying "the blacks" or "the distinguished mentally-challenged fellows" and see how that works out for you.
Post by: Nintex on January 26, 2023, 07:33:59 PM
Post by: Uncle on January 26, 2023, 07:51:14 PM
Thats not really a new thing.
Try saying "the blacks" or "the distinguished mentally-challenged fellows" and see how that works out for you.
the blacks
Post by: BIONIC on January 26, 2023, 08:11:54 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 26, 2023, 08:34:10 PM
Quote from: https://rowman.com/ISBN/9781793624369/Gender-and-Sexuality-in-Critical-Animal-Studies
Gender and Sexuality in Critical Animal Studies explores nonhuman animals’ experiences of gender, physiological sex, and sexuality while in nature and captivity. The contributors analyze nonhuman oppression issues such as reproductive freedom, deconstructing dichotomous thinking, and promoting animal liberation within and beyond the academy. The scholar-activists featured in this collection investigate injustice in news stories, literature, and other media that shape human perceptions and treatment toward nonhumans. Each chapter confronts problematic social constructions of gender, physiological sex, or sexuality by applying literary theory, cultural studies, disability studies, queer studies, ecocriticism, and more to promote justice and equity for nonhuman animals.
Part I: Challenging Speciesism, Patriarchy, and Heterosexism in Literature
Chapter 1: Animals and the Absent Referent in Margaret Atwood’s The Handmaid’s Tale
Chapter 2: “the animals and birds were left in peace”: Katharine Burdekin’s Queer Utopian Ecology
Part II: Liberating Nonhumans in the Classroom and Laboratory
Chapter 3: Queering Our Relations with Nonhuman Animals: Multispecies Sexuality Beyond the Laboratory
Chapter 4: Teaching to Become Intersectional Allies: Engaged Activism, Ecofeminism, Anarchism, and Building Resistance in the Classroom
Part III: Disrupting the Gendered and Sexual Violence Against Nonhuman Animals
Chapter 5: The “Unnatural,” “Immoral” Hyena and the Implications for Conservation Strategy
Chapter 6: Humanity and Honeybees: The Inhumane Treatment of Honey Bees and Where We Go From Here
Chapter 7: Of Rats and Women: A Cross-Species Read of Space and Place
Part IV: Biological and Reproductive Justice for Nonhumans
Chapter 8: Reproduction or the Lack Thereof: A Mode of Oppression, a Means to Liberation?
Chapter 9: Intersex Inclusion: Indeterminant Sex and Gender Acceptance for Nonhuman Animals
Part V: Decoding the Sexual Subjectivity of Nonhumans
Chapter 10: Can the Animal Consent? Zoophilia and the Limits of Logocentrism
Chapter 11: The Zoo Closet: On Whether Bestiality is a Queer Liberation Ethic
Quote from: https://link.springer.com/book/10.1057/9781137354020
Decolonizing Time: Work, Leisure, and Freedom demonstrates the importance of time as a central category for political theory, providing not only a history of the fight for time through political, feminist, and critical theory, but also assessing this tradition in the context of the United States.
Reclaiming Leisure
Criticizing After Dinner: Marx and the Fight for Time for Human Development
The Reification of Time-Consciousness and the Fight for Time Reconsidered
Critical Thoughts on Leisure
The Culture Industry: The Extension of Work, Disciplined Leisure, and the Deterioration of Culture
Developing a Politics of Time: André Gorz and the Domestic Labor Debates
Quote from: https://link.springer.com/book/10.1057/9781137440723
This book argues that there is an ongoing planetary crisis, in both the social and natural worlds, that is of urgent importance. This demands a new politics, a politics of total liberation, one that grasps the need to unite the disparate movements for human, animal, and earth liberation. In the book, Best outlines a way forward despite challenges.
The Animal Standpoint
The New Abolitionism: Capitalism, Slavery, and Animal Liberation
The Paralysis of Pacifism: In Defense of Militant Direct Action
Rethinking Revolution: Veganism, Animal Liberation, Ecology, and the Left
Minding the Animals: Cognitive Ethology and the Obsolescence of Left Humanism
Moral Progress and the Struggle for Human Evolution
Conclusion: Reflections on Activism and Hope in a Dying World and Suicidal Culture
Quote from: https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-031-19451-1
This book demonstrates the use of dance/movement therapy to directly counteract social injustices and promote healing in international settings. It also demonstrates the potential for dance/movement therapy in prevention and wellness in clinical and community settings. The use of improvisational and creative dance is presented throughout the book as a tremendously clear, strong and powerful inroad to healing in every setting. The chapters in this book do not directly address social justice in dance/movement therapy, but rather provide provoking social justice related positions. This call for a provoking re-examination of the definition of dance/movement therapy is fitting as we—as a community—challenge our identity as dance/movement therapists, educators, supervisors and as human beings who have internalized oppression in various forms through our many identifiers and the unique intersections of those identifiers. The editors and authors posit that social justice cannot be fully addressed by focusing solely on the social issues. Rather, we must be aware of where and how the social issues come into the individual(s), the setting, and the therapy process itself.
Grace and Grit: A Meditation on Dance Movement Therapy’s Locations and Aspirations
Breaking Free: One Adolescent Woman’s Recovery from Dating Violence Through Creative Dance
Empowerment-Focused Dance/Movement Therapy for Trauma Recovery
Past, Present, Future: A Program Development Project Exploring Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome (PTSS) Using Experiential Education and Dance/Movement Therapy Informed Approaches
Applying Critical Consciousness to Dance/Movement Therapy Pedagogy and the Politics of the Body
Dance/Movement Therapy in Cross-Cultural Practice: Fostering Assertiveness with Torture Survivors
(Re‑) Defining Dance/Movement Therapy Fifty Years Hence
Moving Towards Wellness in Long-Term Care: Considerations for Dementia-Associated Aggression
Ghosts in the Bedroom: Embodiment Wishes in Couple Sexuality: Qualitative Research and Practical Application
The Embodied Teen: A Somatic Curriculum for Teaching Body‑Mind Awareness, Kinesthetic Intelligence, and Social and Emotional Skills
Quote from: https://www.plutobooks.com/9780745341668/transgender-marxism/
A watershed moment in transgender theory. The first collection of its kind, Transgender Marxism is a provocative and groundbreaking union of transgender studies and Marxist theory.
Exploring trans lives and movements, the authors delve into the experience of surviving as transgender under capitalism. They explore the pressures, oppression and state persecution faced by trans people living in capitalist societies, their tenuous positions in the workplace and the home, and give a powerful response to right-wing scaremongering against ‘gender ideology’.
Reflecting on the relations between gender and labour, these essays reveal the structure of antagonisms faced by gender non-conforming people within society. Looking at the history of transgender movements, Marxist interventions into developmental theory, psychoanalysis and workplace ethnography, the authors conclude that for trans liberation, capitalism must be abolished.
1. Social Reproduction and Social Cognition: Theorizing (Trans)gender Identity Development in Community Context - Noah Zazanis (reproductive health research assistant, New York)
2. Trans Work: Employment Trajectories, Labour Discipline and Gender Freedom - Michelle O'Brien (New York University)
3. Judith Butler's Scientific Revolution: Foundations for a Transsexual Marxism - Rosa Lee (editor at Viewpoint Magazine)
4. How Do Gender Transitions Happen? - Jules Joanne Gleeson
5. A Queer Marxist Transfeminism: Queer and Trans Social Reproduction - Nat Raha (University of Sussex)
6. Notes from Brazil - Virginia Guitzel (philosophy student, Federal University of ABC)
7. Queer Workerism Against Work: Strategising Transgender Labourers, Social Reproduction & Class Formation - Kate Doyle Griffiths (lecturer, Brooklyn College and editor of Spectre Journal)
8. The Bridge between Gender and Organizing - Farah Thompson (Black, bisexual trans woman who does tech while living in San Diego)
9. Encounters in Lancaster - JN Hoad (DIY transsexual in the North West of the UK)
10. Transgender and Disabled Bodies - Between Pain and the Imaginary - Zoe Belinsky (independent scholar)
11. A Dialogue on Deleuze and Gender Difference - The Conspiratorial Association for the Advancement of Cultural Degeneracy (Cultural Degeneracy and Sacrilege - a pseudonymous dialogue between friends)
12. Seizing the Means: Towards a Trans Epistemology - Nathaniel Dickson (PhD candidate, University at Bufflalo)
13. 'Why Are We Like This?' The Primacy of Transsexuality - Xandra Metcalfe (psychoanalytic communist and noise artist based in Melbourne)
14. Cosmos Against Nature in the Class Struggle of Proletarian Trans Women - Anja Heisler Weiser Flower (artist living in San Francisco)
Afterword: One Utopia, One Dystopia
Post by: Potato on January 26, 2023, 09:22:09 PM
If anybody is looking for a little light reading this weekend, here's a few books you might consider:Quote from: https://www.plutobooks.com/9780745341668/transgender-marxism/A watershed moment in transgender theory. The first collection of its kind, Transgender Marxism is a provocative and groundbreaking union of transgender studies and Marxist theory.
Exploring trans lives and movements, the authors delve into the experience of surviving as transgender under capitalism. They explore the pressures, oppression and state persecution faced by trans people living in capitalist societies, their tenuous positions in the workplace and the home, and give a powerful response to right-wing scaremongering against ‘gender ideology’.
Reflecting on the relations between gender and labour, these essays reveal the structure of antagonisms faced by gender non-conforming people within society. Looking at the history of transgender movements, Marxist interventions into developmental theory, psychoanalysis and workplace ethnography, the authors conclude that for trans liberation, capitalism must be abolished.
1. Social Reproduction and Social Cognition: Theorizing (Trans)gender Identity Development in Community Context - Noah Zazanis (reproductive health research assistant, New York)
2. Trans Work: Employment Trajectories, Labour Discipline and Gender Freedom - Michelle O'Brien (New York University)
3. Judith Butler's Scientific Revolution: Foundations for a Transsexual Marxism - Rosa Lee (editor at Viewpoint Magazine)
4. How Do Gender Transitions Happen? - Jules Joanne Gleeson
5. A Queer Marxist Transfeminism: Queer and Trans Social Reproduction - Nat Raha (University of Sussex)
6. Notes from Brazil - Virginia Guitzel (philosophy student, Federal University of ABC)
7. Queer Workerism Against Work: Strategising Transgender Labourers, Social Reproduction & Class Formation - Kate Doyle Griffiths (lecturer, Brooklyn College and editor of Spectre Journal)
8. The Bridge between Gender and Organizing - Farah Thompson (Black, bisexual trans woman who does tech while living in San Diego)
9. Encounters in Lancaster - JN Hoad (DIY transsexual in the North West of the UK)
10. Transgender and Disabled Bodies - Between Pain and the Imaginary - Zoe Belinsky (independent scholar)
11. A Dialogue on Deleuze and Gender Difference - The Conspiratorial Association for the Advancement of Cultural Degeneracy (Cultural Degeneracy and Sacrilege - a pseudonymous dialogue between friends)
12. Seizing the Means: Towards a Trans Epistemology - Nathaniel Dickson (PhD candidate, University at Bufflalo)
13. 'Why Are We Like This?' The Primacy of Transsexuality - Xandra Metcalfe (psychoanalytic communist and noise artist based in Melbourne)
14. Cosmos Against Nature in the Class Struggle of Proletarian Trans Women - Anja Heisler Weiser Flower (artist living in San Francisco)
Afterword: One Utopia, One Dystopia
I am genuinely interested in what these idiots think transgenderism would look like under a Marxist government. Not enough to bother reading that babble, but if someone were to give me a succinct summary, I would read it.
Has any (nominally) Marxist government ever done anything but persecute minorities?
Post by: HaughtyFrank on January 26, 2023, 09:34:37 PM
If anybody is looking for a little light reading this weekend, here's a few books you might consider:Quote from: https://rowman.com/ISBN/9781793624369/Gender-and-Sexuality-in-Critical-Animal-StudiesGender and Sexuality in Critical Animal Studies explores nonhuman animals’ experiences of gender, physiological sex, and sexuality while in nature and captivity. The contributors analyze nonhuman oppression issues such as reproductive freedom, deconstructing dichotomous thinking, and promoting animal liberation within and beyond the academy. The scholar-activists featured in this collection investigate injustice in news stories, literature, and other media that shape human perceptions and treatment toward nonhumans. Each chapter confronts problematic social constructions of gender, physiological sex, or sexuality by applying literary theory, cultural studies, disability studies, queer studies, ecocriticism, and more to promote justice and equity for nonhuman animals.
Part I: Challenging Speciesism, Patriarchy, and Heterosexism in Literature
Chapter 1: Animals and the Absent Referent in Margaret Atwood’s The Handmaid’s Tale
Chapter 2: “the animals and birds were left in peace”: Katharine Burdekin’s Queer Utopian Ecology
Part II: Liberating Nonhumans in the Classroom and Laboratory
Chapter 3: Queering Our Relations with Nonhuman Animals: Multispecies Sexuality Beyond the Laboratory
Chapter 4: Teaching to Become Intersectional Allies: Engaged Activism, Ecofeminism, Anarchism, and Building Resistance in the Classroom
Part III: Disrupting the Gendered and Sexual Violence Against Nonhuman Animals
Chapter 5: The “Unnatural,” “Immoral” Hyena and the Implications for Conservation Strategy
Chapter 6: Humanity and Honeybees: The Inhumane Treatment of Honey Bees and Where We Go From Here
Chapter 7: Of Rats and Women: A Cross-Species Read of Space and Place
Part IV: Biological and Reproductive Justice for Nonhumans
Chapter 8: Reproduction or the Lack Thereof: A Mode of Oppression, a Means to Liberation?
Chapter 9: Intersex Inclusion: Indeterminant Sex and Gender Acceptance for Nonhuman Animals
Part V: Decoding the Sexual Subjectivity of Nonhumans
Chapter 10: Can the Animal Consent? Zoophilia and the Limits of Logocentrism
Chapter 11: The Zoo Closet: On Whether Bestiality is a Queer Liberation Ethic
I wasn't sure where this was going when it started off with Handmaids Tale but I honestly should have seen the zoophilia coming
Edit: The cover
(https://i.imgur.com/qq62J7x.jpg)
:dead
Post by: benjipwns on January 26, 2023, 09:35:39 PM
I am genuinely interested in what these idiots think transgenderism would look like under a Marxist government. Not enough to bother reading that babble, but if someone were to give me a succinct summary, I would read it.That's not really the point of these kinds of books. They're all premised on a very simple concept: Marxism is not capitalism, all problems are the result of capitalism (as Marxism shows), therefore Marxism has no problems. They absolutely do not have to educate you about what anything would look like under Marxism because all utopias are perfect and Marxism mandates utopia after capitalism.
They aren't written to convince anybody who doesn't already believe.
Post by: Uncle on January 26, 2023, 09:51:50 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/EHGrNBn.png)If anybody is looking for a little light reading this weekend, here's a few books you might consider:Quote from: https://rowman.com/ISBN/9781793624369/Gender-and-Sexuality-in-Critical-Animal-StudiesGender and Sexuality in Critical Animal Studies explores nonhuman animals’ experiences of gender, physiological sex, and sexuality while in nature and captivity. The contributors analyze nonhuman oppression issues such as reproductive freedom, deconstructing dichotomous thinking, and promoting animal liberation within and beyond the academy. The scholar-activists featured in this collection investigate injustice in news stories, literature, and other media that shape human perceptions and treatment toward nonhumans. Each chapter confronts problematic social constructions of gender, physiological sex, or sexuality by applying literary theory, cultural studies, disability studies, queer studies, ecocriticism, and more to promote justice and equity for nonhuman animals.
Part I: Challenging Speciesism, Patriarchy, and Heterosexism in Literature
Chapter 1: Animals and the Absent Referent in Margaret Atwood’s The Handmaid’s Tale
Chapter 2: “the animals and birds were left in peace”: Katharine Burdekin’s Queer Utopian Ecology
Part II: Liberating Nonhumans in the Classroom and Laboratory
Chapter 3: Queering Our Relations with Nonhuman Animals: Multispecies Sexuality Beyond the Laboratory
Chapter 4: Teaching to Become Intersectional Allies: Engaged Activism, Ecofeminism, Anarchism, and Building Resistance in the Classroom
Part III: Disrupting the Gendered and Sexual Violence Against Nonhuman Animals
Chapter 5: The “Unnatural,” “Immoral” Hyena and the Implications for Conservation Strategy
Chapter 6: Humanity and Honeybees: The Inhumane Treatment of Honey Bees and Where We Go From Here
Chapter 7: Of Rats and Women: A Cross-Species Read of Space and Place
Part IV: Biological and Reproductive Justice for Nonhumans
Chapter 8: Reproduction or the Lack Thereof: A Mode of Oppression, a Means to Liberation?
Chapter 9: Intersex Inclusion: Indeterminant Sex and Gender Acceptance for Nonhuman Animals
Part V: Decoding the Sexual Subjectivity of Nonhumans
Chapter 10: Can the Animal Consent? Zoophilia and the Limits of Logocentrism
Chapter 11: The Zoo Closet: On Whether Bestiality is a Queer Liberation Ethic
I wasn't sure where this was going when it started off with Handmaids Tale but I honestly should have seen the zoophilia coming
Edit: The cover(https://i.imgur.com/qq62J7x.jpg)]/left]
:dead
Post by: HaughtyFrank on January 26, 2023, 09:53:27 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 26, 2023, 10:16:24 PM
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on January 27, 2023, 03:40:51 AM
They aren't written to convince anybody who doesn't already believe.
I assumed like most 'soft science' academic papers they're not even being written to be read; they're being written because gotta write something to fulfill tenure requirements
Post by: Nintex on January 27, 2023, 04:02:01 AM
I consent
Prrrrr
I consent
Meow?! (I don't)
Mrreeowwww hiss hiss (the fuck is wrong with you human)
Woof (I consent)
Meoowwoooww (oh fuck no)
Post by: Potato on January 27, 2023, 05:22:38 AM
Publish or perish is the expression I thinkThey aren't written to convince anybody who doesn't already believe.
I assumed like most 'soft science' academic papers they're not even being written to be read; they're being written because gotta write something to fulfill tenure requirements
Post by: Potato on January 27, 2023, 06:34:46 AM
https://twitter.com/DelusionPosting/status/1617220580683698180So apparently this trash bag has issued an apology to the guy whose life she tried to ruin.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on January 27, 2023, 07:47:56 AM
Good. No one should use the F-word.
Post by: BIONIC on January 27, 2023, 07:51:09 AM
Post by: Uncle on January 27, 2023, 07:55:13 AM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 27, 2023, 08:20:37 AM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 27, 2023, 08:46:16 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/EHGrNBn.png)If anybody is looking for a little light reading this weekend, here's a few books you might consider:Quote from: https://rowman.com/ISBN/9781793624369/Gender-and-Sexuality-in-Critical-Animal-StudiesGender and Sexuality in Critical Animal Studies explores nonhuman animals’ experiences of gender, physiological sex, and sexuality while in nature and captivity. The contributors analyze nonhuman oppression issues such as reproductive freedom, deconstructing dichotomous thinking, and promoting animal liberation within and beyond the academy. The scholar-activists featured in this collection investigate injustice in news stories, literature, and other media that shape human perceptions and treatment toward nonhumans. Each chapter confronts problematic social constructions of gender, physiological sex, or sexuality by applying literary theory, cultural studies, disability studies, queer studies, ecocriticism, and more to promote justice and equity for nonhuman animals.
Part I: Challenging Speciesism, Patriarchy, and Heterosexism in Literature
Chapter 1: Animals and the Absent Referent in Margaret Atwood’s The Handmaid’s Tale
Chapter 2: “the animals and birds were left in peace”: Katharine Burdekin’s Queer Utopian Ecology
Part II: Liberating Nonhumans in the Classroom and Laboratory
Chapter 3: Queering Our Relations with Nonhuman Animals: Multispecies Sexuality Beyond the Laboratory
Chapter 4: Teaching to Become Intersectional Allies: Engaged Activism, Ecofeminism, Anarchism, and Building Resistance in the Classroom
Part III: Disrupting the Gendered and Sexual Violence Against Nonhuman Animals
Chapter 5: The “Unnatural,” “Immoral” Hyena and the Implications for Conservation Strategy
Chapter 6: Humanity and Honeybees: The Inhumane Treatment of Honey Bees and Where We Go From Here
Chapter 7: Of Rats and Women: A Cross-Species Read of Space and Place
Part IV: Biological and Reproductive Justice for Nonhumans
Chapter 8: Reproduction or the Lack Thereof: A Mode of Oppression, a Means to Liberation?
Chapter 9: Intersex Inclusion: Indeterminant Sex and Gender Acceptance for Nonhuman Animals
Part V: Decoding the Sexual Subjectivity of Nonhumans
Chapter 10: Can the Animal Consent? Zoophilia and the Limits of Logocentrism
Chapter 11: The Zoo Closet: On Whether Bestiality is a Queer Liberation Ethic
I wasn't sure where this was going when it started off with Handmaids Tale but I honestly should have seen the zoophilia coming
Edit: The cover(https://i.imgur.com/qq62J7x.jpg)]/left]
:dead
I'd love to hear what an old school gay dude who spent decades fighting the idea that homosexuality was the same as paedophillia and other sick shit thinks about the new school kinda proving the ye olde bigots right.
Same with what old school civil rights people think about certain loonies now thinking/coming round to the idea segregation is actually progressive.
I think their reactions would be along the lines of :mindblown
Post by: james on January 27, 2023, 01:00:35 PM
Post by: Uncle on January 27, 2023, 01:30:45 PM
https://twitter.com/MeatCheeseMeat/status/1618989903882387460
(https://i.imgur.com/gfxwetE.png)
Post by: Potato on January 27, 2023, 04:10:34 PM
Maybe I just need to get used to not using the internet...
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on January 27, 2023, 04:13:44 PM
This shit is going to get worse before it gets better, right?
Maybe I just need to get used to not using the internet...
I'd be sad about this.
Post by: james on January 27, 2023, 04:31:24 PM
This shit is going to get worse before it gets better, right?
Maybe I just need to get used to not using the internet...
https://twitter.com/MeatCheeseMeat/status/1619056306756911105
Post by: Potato on January 27, 2023, 04:55:12 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on January 27, 2023, 06:28:31 PM
:lol
Post by: benjipwns on January 27, 2023, 10:44:20 PM
Many of the replies: :delicious
Post by: benjipwns on January 27, 2023, 10:46:21 PM
https://twitter.com/LayahHeilpern/status/1618981676847345667
Post by: benjipwns on January 27, 2023, 10:57:24 PM
Post by: Potato on January 27, 2023, 11:11:03 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/RickyRawls/status/1608329358871244804 (https://mobile.twitter.com/RickyRawls/status/1608329358871244804)As a professional communicator, I've been a little concerned about AI and it's potential effects on my career, then I read this tweet and realise that the only people this shit will put out off work are the terminally online outage merchants who just generate this sort of unreadable clickbait bullshit.
:lol
Post by: Uncle on January 27, 2023, 11:37:02 PM
:meeble
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 28, 2023, 12:39:34 AM
Post by: Tasty on January 28, 2023, 12:47:05 AM
If anybody is looking for a little light reading this weekend, here's a few books you might consider:Quote from: https://rowman.com/ISBN/9781793624369/Gender-and-Sexuality-in-Critical-Animal-StudiesGender and Sexuality in Critical Animal Studies explores nonhuman animals’ experiences of gender, physiological sex, and sexuality while in nature and captivity. The contributors analyze nonhuman oppression issues such as reproductive freedom, deconstructing dichotomous thinking, and promoting animal liberation within and beyond the academy. The scholar-activists featured in this collection investigate injustice in news stories, literature, and other media that shape human perceptions and treatment toward nonhumans. Each chapter confronts problematic social constructions of gender, physiological sex, or sexuality by applying literary theory, cultural studies, disability studies, queer studies, ecocriticism, and more to promote justice and equity for nonhuman animals.
Part I: Challenging Speciesism, Patriarchy, and Heterosexism in Literature
Chapter 1: Animals and the Absent Referent in Margaret Atwood’s The Handmaid’s Tale
Chapter 2: “the animals and birds were left in peace”: Katharine Burdekin’s Queer Utopian Ecology
Part II: Liberating Nonhumans in the Classroom and Laboratory
Chapter 3: Queering Our Relations with Nonhuman Animals: Multispecies Sexuality Beyond the Laboratory
Chapter 4: Teaching to Become Intersectional Allies: Engaged Activism, Ecofeminism, Anarchism, and Building Resistance in the Classroom
Part III: Disrupting the Gendered and Sexual Violence Against Nonhuman Animals
Chapter 5: The “Unnatural,” “Immoral” Hyena and the Implications for Conservation Strategy
Chapter 6: Humanity and Honeybees: The Inhumane Treatment of Honey Bees and Where We Go From Here
Chapter 7: Of Rats and Women: A Cross-Species Read of Space and Place
Part IV: Biological and Reproductive Justice for Nonhumans
Chapter 8: Reproduction or the Lack Thereof: A Mode of Oppression, a Means to Liberation?
Chapter 9: Intersex Inclusion: Indeterminant Sex and Gender Acceptance for Nonhuman Animals
Part V: Decoding the Sexual Subjectivity of Nonhumans
Chapter 10: Can the Animal Consent? Zoophilia and the Limits of Logocentrism
Chapter 11: The Zoo Closet: On Whether Bestiality is a Queer Liberation EthicQuote from: https://link.springer.com/book/10.1057/9781137354020Decolonizing Time: Work, Leisure, and Freedom demonstrates the importance of time as a central category for political theory, providing not only a history of the fight for time through political, feminist, and critical theory, but also assessing this tradition in the context of the United States.
Reclaiming Leisure
Criticizing After Dinner: Marx and the Fight for Time for Human Development
The Reification of Time-Consciousness and the Fight for Time Reconsidered
Critical Thoughts on Leisure
The Culture Industry: The Extension of Work, Disciplined Leisure, and the Deterioration of Culture
Developing a Politics of Time: André Gorz and the Domestic Labor DebatesQuote from: https://link.springer.com/book/10.1057/9781137440723This book argues that there is an ongoing planetary crisis, in both the social and natural worlds, that is of urgent importance. This demands a new politics, a politics of total liberation, one that grasps the need to unite the disparate movements for human, animal, and earth liberation. In the book, Best outlines a way forward despite challenges.
The Animal Standpoint
The New Abolitionism: Capitalism, Slavery, and Animal Liberation
The Paralysis of Pacifism: In Defense of Militant Direct Action
Rethinking Revolution: Veganism, Animal Liberation, Ecology, and the Left
Minding the Animals: Cognitive Ethology and the Obsolescence of Left Humanism
Moral Progress and the Struggle for Human Evolution
Conclusion: Reflections on Activism and Hope in a Dying World and Suicidal CultureQuote from: https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-031-19451-1This book demonstrates the use of dance/movement therapy to directly counteract social injustices and promote healing in international settings. It also demonstrates the potential for dance/movement therapy in prevention and wellness in clinical and community settings. The use of improvisational and creative dance is presented throughout the book as a tremendously clear, strong and powerful inroad to healing in every setting. The chapters in this book do not directly address social justice in dance/movement therapy, but rather provide provoking social justice related positions. This call for a provoking re-examination of the definition of dance/movement therapy is fitting as we—as a community—challenge our identity as dance/movement therapists, educators, supervisors and as human beings who have internalized oppression in various forms through our many identifiers and the unique intersections of those identifiers. The editors and authors posit that social justice cannot be fully addressed by focusing solely on the social issues. Rather, we must be aware of where and how the social issues come into the individual(s), the setting, and the therapy process itself.
Grace and Grit: A Meditation on Dance Movement Therapy’s Locations and Aspirations
Breaking Free: One Adolescent Woman’s Recovery from Dating Violence Through Creative Dance
Empowerment-Focused Dance/Movement Therapy for Trauma Recovery
Past, Present, Future: A Program Development Project Exploring Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome (PTSS) Using Experiential Education and Dance/Movement Therapy Informed Approaches
Applying Critical Consciousness to Dance/Movement Therapy Pedagogy and the Politics of the Body
Dance/Movement Therapy in Cross-Cultural Practice: Fostering Assertiveness with Torture Survivors
(Re‑) Defining Dance/Movement Therapy Fifty Years Hence
Moving Towards Wellness in Long-Term Care: Considerations for Dementia-Associated Aggression
Ghosts in the Bedroom: Embodiment Wishes in Couple Sexuality: Qualitative Research and Practical Application
The Embodied Teen: A Somatic Curriculum for Teaching Body‑Mind Awareness, Kinesthetic Intelligence, and Social and Emotional SkillsQuote from: https://www.plutobooks.com/9780745341668/transgender-marxism/A watershed moment in transgender theory. The first collection of its kind, Transgender Marxism is a provocative and groundbreaking union of transgender studies and Marxist theory.
Exploring trans lives and movements, the authors delve into the experience of surviving as transgender under capitalism. They explore the pressures, oppression and state persecution faced by trans people living in capitalist societies, their tenuous positions in the workplace and the home, and give a powerful response to right-wing scaremongering against ‘gender ideology’.
Reflecting on the relations between gender and labour, these essays reveal the structure of antagonisms faced by gender non-conforming people within society. Looking at the history of transgender movements, Marxist interventions into developmental theory, psychoanalysis and workplace ethnography, the authors conclude that for trans liberation, capitalism must be abolished.
1. Social Reproduction and Social Cognition: Theorizing (Trans)gender Identity Development in Community Context - Noah Zazanis (reproductive health research assistant, New York)
2. Trans Work: Employment Trajectories, Labour Discipline and Gender Freedom - Michelle O'Brien (New York University)
3. Judith Butler's Scientific Revolution: Foundations for a Transsexual Marxism - Rosa Lee (editor at Viewpoint Magazine)
4. How Do Gender Transitions Happen? - Jules Joanne Gleeson
5. A Queer Marxist Transfeminism: Queer and Trans Social Reproduction - Nat Raha (University of Sussex)
6. Notes from Brazil - Virginia Guitzel (philosophy student, Federal University of ABC)
7. Queer Workerism Against Work: Strategising Transgender Labourers, Social Reproduction & Class Formation - Kate Doyle Griffiths (lecturer, Brooklyn College and editor of Spectre Journal)
8. The Bridge between Gender and Organizing - Farah Thompson (Black, bisexual trans woman who does tech while living in San Diego)
9. Encounters in Lancaster - JN Hoad (DIY transsexual in the North West of the UK)
10. Transgender and Disabled Bodies - Between Pain and the Imaginary - Zoe Belinsky (independent scholar)
11. A Dialogue on Deleuze and Gender Difference - The Conspiratorial Association for the Advancement of Cultural Degeneracy (Cultural Degeneracy and Sacrilege - a pseudonymous dialogue between friends)
12. Seizing the Means: Towards a Trans Epistemology - Nathaniel Dickson (PhD candidate, University at Bufflalo)
13. 'Why Are We Like This?' The Primacy of Transsexuality - Xandra Metcalfe (psychoanalytic communist and noise artist based in Melbourne)
14. Cosmos Against Nature in the Class Struggle of Proletarian Trans Women - Anja Heisler Weiser Flower (artist living in San Francisco)
Afterword: One Utopia, One Dystopia
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Post by: benjipwns on January 28, 2023, 12:59:25 AM
Post by: Nintex on January 28, 2023, 04:09:06 AM
Post by: Nintex on January 29, 2023, 05:01:02 AM
Why
Post by: Potato on January 29, 2023, 07:57:30 AM
https://twitter.com/kulmahuoneesta/status/1618722475713646592 (https://twitter.com/kulmahuoneesta/status/1618722475713646592)My boss is an international figure skating judge. I'll ask her at work tomorrow.
Why
Post by: benjipwns on January 29, 2023, 02:42:41 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on January 29, 2023, 02:50:43 PM
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“With the diverse group of performers, we want to show that the ice has space for everyone.”
“The opening ceremony will present skaters at various levels from non-professionals to top athletes.
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“Often, only the top skaters in the country are seen in figure skating shows. With this diverse group of performers, we want to show that the ice has space for everyone. Especially in uncertain and difficult times like these, it is meaningful to create an accepting and positive experience for all”, Leppilampi said.
:crazy
Post by: james on January 31, 2023, 02:22:59 AM
Post by: Potato on January 31, 2023, 02:30:00 AM
https://twitter.com/aberamentho/status/1619645511014940674My boss had no idea what the hell this shit was about.Quote“With the diverse group of performers, we want to show that the ice has space for everyone.”
“The opening ceremony will present skaters at various levels from non-professionals to top athletes.Quote“Often, only the top skaters in the country are seen in figure skating shows. With this diverse group of performers, we want to show that the ice has space for everyone. Especially in uncertain and difficult times like these, it is meaningful to create an accepting and positive experience for all”, Leppilampi said.
:crazy
Post by: benjipwns on January 31, 2023, 05:47:02 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/orx5LUr.png)
:hmm
Post by: HaughtyFrank on February 01, 2023, 01:55:21 PM
https://twitter.com/RussFrushtick/status/1619094672999346176
Mind you, I'm not bothered the political message at all, the original game was also very critical of capitalism through it's story and satiric ads:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FnhrcirXgAAfVPh?format=jpg&name=medium)
What bothers me is that it's so direct, like there's not even an attempt to include any subtext. Is there even any thought put into who would write that on a wall? Wouldn't they instead call out something more direct, like the shit working hours, pay, lazy boss or whatever instead of being shocked that the company they work for is capitalist? Basically hard to imagine a real life oil worker writing this on an oilrig.
But the thing is, as you can see by the tweet, people actually eat this up. This dude, who apparently co-founded Polygon, is all "Fuck yeah, not pulling any punches!", so this sort of writing is exactly aimed at permanent twitter residents like him, and it upsets me that there's really a crowd out there who want all their media to have the villain turn to the camera and explain that they're doing bad things.
Oh and let's not talk about how a graffiti somehow has correct commas lol
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 01, 2023, 02:50:14 PM
not that the standard of writing in some stuff hasn't got more hacky over the last 15 years too.
Post by: Potato on February 01, 2023, 03:03:00 PM
eh its kinda whatever, theres an idea that current audiences are fucking stupid (probably true) so need to be slapped in the face with the message, the example from the original game is 2deep4u today. how will your run of the mill twitter slacktivist know that you're criticising capitalism without lame overly wordy slogans?If you need a direct example of how fucking stupid modern audiences are, then maybe revisit the Cyberpunk 2077 controversy regarding the in-game advertisements.
not that the standard of writing in some stuff hasn't got more hacky over the last 15 years too.
Post by: benjipwns on February 01, 2023, 07:06:20 PM
This dude, who apparently co-founded Polygon, is all "Fuck yeah, not pulling any punches!", so this sort of writing is exactly aimed at permanent twitter residents like himIs he making fun of it?
https://twitter.com/joshWit_Ch/status/1619393364025278466
Are these the replies he hated?
https://twitter.com/purplecumulon/status/1619172872991444992
https://twitter.com/Player2Joypad/status/1619302349641748480
Anyway, actual winner:
https://twitter.com/iHeartMilfsss/status/1619138860608540673
https://twitter.com/iHeartMilfsss/status/1619146237659447296
https://twitter.com/iHeartMilfsss/status/1619147574673543169
Post by: Polident Hive on February 01, 2023, 07:55:01 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 01, 2023, 08:34:58 PM
Sometimes I can’t what direction it’s coming from. If it’s done for the audience sake, the Bergeron effect of dumbing it down. Or it’s insecurity from the creators to not have their work missed or misunderstood. Either way, see it more and more. Stopping short of facing the camera and explaining what’s happening and how to feel.I'm no longer under the illusion that the people doing this writing are smart. They're all on Twitter now and I can see what they think about everything all the time.
The writers on The Larry Sanders Show and 30 Rock were apparently not parodies at all but played straight and we just didn't know it yet.
Post by: benjipwns on February 01, 2023, 09:53:43 PM
https://twitter.com/jowyang/status/1620141122491408384
He locked the replies because they were making fun of him of course.
Post by: Uncle on February 01, 2023, 10:23:57 PM
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Post by: HaughtyFrank on February 01, 2023, 10:39:15 PM
Post by: Polident Hive on February 01, 2023, 10:59:39 PM
Post by: Nintex on February 02, 2023, 08:27:57 AM
:trumps
Post by: Potato on February 02, 2023, 09:33:07 AM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 02, 2023, 10:00:13 AM
Post by: james on February 02, 2023, 10:53:35 AM
Stop filming in the gym you idiots. Did these cunts ever consider that others might not be comfortable with them filming?
Are my hidden cameras in the gym locker room ok or no?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on February 02, 2023, 11:04:41 AM
rules are for thee, not for me
thats what i have written on my collar
Post by: benjipwns on February 02, 2023, 05:31:40 PM
https://twitter.com/TinStarGames1/status/1621069895151804417
https://twitter.com/TinStarGames1/status/1621064877598216193
https://twitter.com/TinStarGames1/status/1621068591100751872
https://twitter.com/hiandlois/status/1621064319755755521
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@TinStarGames1:wut
We are the preeminent Australian rpg publisher. “Dee’s words make the everyday seem magical and the magical seem within reach" http://ko-fi.com/tinstargames
Post by: Polident Hive on February 02, 2023, 05:40:45 PM
Stop filming in the gym you idiots. Did these cunts ever consider that others might not be comfortable with them filming?
Some people film themselves to check their form. For themselves and to get input from others etc. but mostly private. Not for social media content or whatever the hell they’re doing these days.
Post by: chronovore on February 02, 2023, 06:28:49 PM
Stop filming in the gym you idiots. Did these cunts ever consider that others might not be comfortable with them filming?
Some people film themselves to check their form. For themselves and to get input from others etc. but mostly private. Not for social media content or whatever the hell they’re doing these days.
Sure, but that's not what we're talking about. Many gyms have rules prohibiting photography/recording, and it's precisely for the privacy of all paying customers.
The clout-chasers, the creeps, the vain, and those who are legitimately just trying to improve their form can't be separated. They're all under the same blanket prohibition.
Post by: Polident Hive on February 02, 2023, 06:46:03 PM
Think I’m mentioning it because I don’t get the sense this video was meant to be one of those. Lady actually seems like a lifter and at least has the camera aimed at a wall.
Post by: Snoopycat_ on February 02, 2023, 09:40:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_dIaeNu0JI
Post by: benjipwns on February 02, 2023, 10:52:35 PM
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Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 03, 2023, 08:51:19 AM
Also the way he says buddy is hilarious
Post by: Nintex on February 03, 2023, 09:27:10 AM
:rogan "phew wow"
"But they put that in the Disney vault in favor of garbage like She Hulk to hide the truth"
:rogan "damn"
"Wake up Buddy! You think the world is all sunshine and rainbows. Welcome to reality"
Post by: HaughtyFrank on February 03, 2023, 12:54:21 PM
Post by: Nintex on February 03, 2023, 04:24:51 PM
:wut
Post by: Tasty on February 03, 2023, 04:28:38 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 03, 2023, 05:03:47 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 03, 2023, 08:47:57 PM
:era
Post by: benjipwns on February 03, 2023, 10:44:21 PM
Post by: Potato on February 03, 2023, 11:26:49 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on February 04, 2023, 02:42:50 PM
https://twitter.com/DrShepherd2013/status/1621908181860352003
Post by: chronovore on February 04, 2023, 06:48:28 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 04, 2023, 08:11:26 PM
Quote from: https://www.wkrn.com/news/tennessee-politics/tn-super-bowl-monday-holiday-bill/
NASHVILLE, Tenn. (WKRN) — Two Democratic lawmakers are seeking to remove Columbus Day as an official holiday in Tennessee in favor of a different day of celebration: the day after the Super Bowl.
Rep. Joe Towns Jr. (D—Memphis) and Sen. London Lamar (D—Memphis) introduced a bill this week that would designate the first Monday after the Super Bowl as a legal holiday while removing the official recognition of Columbus Day.
The bill would delete the language in the current Tennessee Code Annotated that designates “the second Monday in October, known as ‘Columbus Day,’” as a holiday while inserting “the first Monday after the Super Bowl,” as a new holiday, known as “Super Bowl Monday” in the bill text.
If passed, the change would take effect immediately, per the bill.
Post by: benjipwns on February 04, 2023, 08:17:11 PM
Quote from: https://time.com/6252617/effective-altruism-sexual-harassment/
But as Gopalakrishnan got further into the movement, she realized that “the advertised reality of EA is very different from the actual reality of EA,” she says. She noticed that EA members in the Bay Area seemed to work together, live together, and sleep together, often in polyamorous sexual relationships with complex professional dynamics. Three times in one year, she says, men at informal EA gatherings tried to convince her to join these so-called “polycules.” When Gopalakrishnan said she wasn’t interested, she recalls, they would “shame” her or try to pressure her, casting monogamy as a lifestyle governed by jealousy, and polyamory as a more enlightened and rational approach.
After a particularly troubling incident of sexual harassment, Gopalakrishnan wrote a post on an online forum for EAs in Nov. 2022. While she declined to publicly describe details of the incident, she argued that EA’s culture was hostile toward women. “It puts your safety at risk,” she wrote, adding that most of the access to funding and opportunities within the movement was controlled by men. Gopalakrishnan was alarmed at some of the responses. One commenter wrote that her post was “bigoted” against polyamorous people. Another said it would “pollute the epistemic environment,” and argued it was “net-negative for solving the problem.”
Post by: Potato on February 05, 2023, 08:24:18 PM
Post by: D3RANG3D on February 06, 2023, 11:07:08 AM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 06, 2023, 11:31:02 AM
Post by: james on February 06, 2023, 03:39:22 PM
THAT MOTHERFUCKER IS DATING AN ISRAEL APOLOGIST
Post by: HaughtyFrank on February 06, 2023, 03:56:27 PM
Brb asking Alexandria Daddario if I may jerk off to her body because I'm not a creep
Post by: benjipwns on February 06, 2023, 04:27:15 PM
Quote from: https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2023/02/02/black_reparations_inspiring_a_multicolored_pandoras_box_of_intersectional_demands_879083.html
But the reparations movement is bigger and wider than that. Its rise in the United States has inspired a global movement committed to redressing perceived historical injustices to all manner of aggrieved groups. The causes include gay reparations, climate reparations, colonial reparations, university reparations – and Roman Catholic Church reparations for officially sanctioning colonization, slavery, and genocide in the New World. Scholars, activists and legislators across the United States and Europe and in former colonies are drawing on the logic and language of the black reparations movement and international human rights law to make the claim that their causes also deserve atonement and compensation for past wrongs.
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Reparations advocate William Darity, a Duke University economist and one of five economic advisers to the California Reparations Task Force, acknowledged that claims against the United States and other European nations that enslaved Africans could potentially lead to similar claims against Western and non-Western countries that, in a previous political configuration in past centuries, engaged in slaving, concubinage, and other practices that were formerly accepted but are now viewed with moral revulsion.
“I would encourage the people who are concerned about these histories of injustice to do the work and make the case,” Darity said, noting that the full scale of potential claims may not be fully appreciated. “It could be immense; it could be enormous.”
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Illustrating the complexity of the issue, reparations projects around the country are using inconsistent eligibility criteria. The California Reparations Task Force has defined eligibility in such a way as to exclude people like Obama, whose late mother was white and late father was from Kenya, by limiting benefits to descendants of free blacks or enslaved blacks who lived in the United States in the 19th century.
But California’s definition currently doesn't require the applicant to document that they have self-identified as African American, an oversight that could open the door for white people who have black slaves in their lineage, Darity said, unless the state’s task force revises the criteria in the final proposal this year.
California's eligibility standards were controversial and passed narrowly on a 5-4 vote. Public figures last year impassionedly urged the task force to make reparations available to all black people.
“In essence, we’re saying people like that, who’re experiencing racism now — and you can’t tell me Barack Obama didn’t experience racism — could not be part of reparations,” said Reginald Jones-Sawyer, who represents South Los Angeles in the State Assembly, according to The New York Times. “The fact that we all came in, whether on a slave ship or a cruise ship — Guess what? We’re all in the same boat now.”
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Officials in San Francisco, a progressive city that last year implemented the nation’s first guaranteed income program exclusively for transgender people, are weighing a separate reparations proposal to make lump sum payments of $5 million each to eligible black residents and supplement lower-income black households with $97,000 a year (in 2022 dollars) for “at least 250 years.”
Darity’s national proposal, outlined with co-author A. Kirsten Mullen in “From Here to Equality,” calls for closing the estimated $14.7 trillion racial wealth gap by paying each African American about $358,000, over a period of 10 years in a combination of annuities, trust accounts, endowments, and cash, all exempt from federal income taxes.
Among the impediments to achieving racial wealth parity in this country is the almost certain unconstitutionality of awarding financial benefits based on race. Darity said Congress would have to pass legislation affirming the legality of redress for national culpability against a specific racial group. The final obstacle for reparations advocates would be the U.S. Supreme Court, which at the present time is majority conservative.
“A Congress that makes a commitment to a reparations plan might also have to make a commitment to stack the court,” Darity said. “From my perspective, the Supreme Court is purely a political instrument, and it should be treated as such.”
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“Injustice and oppression are global in scale. Why? Because trans-Atlantic slavery and colonialism built the world we live in,” Georgetown philosophy professor Olúfẹ́mi O. Táíwò wrote in “Reconsidering Reparations,” an academic treatise published by Oxford University Press last year. “If we want reparations, we should be thinking more broadly about how to remake the world system.”
Táíwò declined comment for this article, but his 2022 book argues that “climate justice and reparations are the same project: climate crisis arises from the same political history as racial injustice and presents a challenge of the same scale and scope.”
“The Case for Gay Reparations” notes that an apology is key for claimants because it establishes grounds for further concessions.
“As suggested by the Western European experience, an apology to the LGBTQ community is often a gateway for other reparations, including rehabilitation and compensation,” author Omar Encarnación wrote in Time magazine in 2021. Compensation is sought for the loss of wages and pensions that may have resulted from time spent in prison or in a mental institution because of homophobic laws and policies, he explained in The Nation.
The Caribbean CARICOM Reparations Commission and the National African American Reparations Commission both have promulgated 10-point platforms, listing demands such as affordable housing, substantial land tracts, creation of an African Holocaust Institute, psychological rehabilitation, and technology transfers, among others. Both movements advocate for a government-supported repatriation program to be made available to millions of individuals in the African diaspora who might wish to return to their ancestral homeland.
“Africans in America who choose to exercise the right to return will be provided with sufficient monetary resources to become productive citizens in their new home and shall be aided in their resettlement by a Black controlled agency funded by the federal government to perform this function,” states the National African American Reparations Commission (NAARC).
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Darity expressed frustration that reparations to African Americans have faced continual resistance in this country, a response he attributes to “good old-fashioned racism.”:hmm
He also attributes the recent popularization of reparations to the same ugly impulse.
“Why now? That’s the question you all should be asking yourselves,” Darity said, offering a theory he characterized as “truly cynical”:
“Ultimately, black Americans always serve as the mules for other peoples’ purposes.”
Post by: Tuckers Law on February 06, 2023, 04:37:10 PM
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“A Congress that makes a commitment to a reparations plan might also have to make a commitment to stack the court,” Darity said. “From my perspective, the Supreme Court is purely a political instrument, and it should be treated as such.”
I won't dispute that it often can be, but still what a horrifying mentality to see voiced out loud.
Post by: benjipwns on February 06, 2023, 04:47:09 PM
I won't dispute that it often can be, but still what a horrifying mentality to see voiced out loud.Ibram Kendi openly called for an unelected body with absolute unchecked power authorized to ignore Constitutional rights:
Quote from: https://www.politico.com/interactives/2019/how-to-fix-politics-in-america/inequality/pass-an-anti-racist-constitutional-amendment/
The amendment would make unconstitutional racial inequity over a certain threshold, as well as racist ideas by public officials (with “racist ideas” and “public official” clearly defined). It would establish and permanently fund the Department of Anti-racism (DOA) comprised of formally trained experts on racism and no political appointees. The DOA would be responsible for preclearing all local, state and federal public policies to ensure they won’t yield racial inequity, monitor those policies, investigate private racist policies when racial inequity surfaces, and monitor public officials for expressions of racist ideas. The DOA would be empowered with disciplinary tools to wield over and against policymakers and public officials who do not voluntarily change their racist policy and ideas.
Post by: Tuckers Law on February 06, 2023, 05:21:50 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 06, 2023, 05:22:31 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 06, 2023, 07:50:09 PM
Is that the buck breaking guy?That's Tariq Nasheed. Kendi is better known for being paid millions to say things like this:
https://twitter.com/JohnHMcWhorter/status/1399670923221946372
Quote from: https://www.penguin.co.uk/articles/2020/06/ibram-x-kendi-definition-of-antiracist
RACIST: One who is supporting a racist policy through their actions or inaction or expressing a racist idea.
ANTIRACIST: One who is supporting an antiracist policy through their actions or expressing an antiracist idea.
Definitions anchor us in principles. This is not a light point: If we don’t do the basic work of defining the kind of people we want to be in language that is stable and consistent, we can’t work toward stable, consistent goals. Some of my most consequential steps toward being an antiracist have been the moments when I arrived at basic definitions. To be an antiracist is to set lucid definitions of racism/antiracism, racist/antiracist policies, racist/anti-racist ideas, racist/antiracist people. To be a racist is to constantly redefine racist in a way that exonerates one’s changing policies, ideas, and personhood.
So let’s set some definitions. What is racism? Racism is a marriage of racist policies and racist ideas that produces and normalizes racial inequities. Okay, so what are racist policies and ideas? We have to define them separately to understand why they are married and why they interact so well together. In fact, let’s take one step back and consider the definition of another important phrase: racial inequity.
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A racist policy is any measure that produces or sustains racial inequity between racial groups. An antiracist policy is any measure that produces or sustains racial equity between racial groups. By policy, I mean written and unwritten laws, rules, procedures, processes, regulations, and guidelines that govern people. There is no such thing as a nonracist or race-neutral policy. Every policy in every institution in every community in every nation is producing or sustaining either racial inequity or equity between racial groups.
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The only remedy to racist discrimination is antiracist discrimination. The only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination. The only remedy to present discrimination is future discrimination.
Post by: D3RANG3D on February 07, 2023, 08:44:27 AM
:whew
Post by: Nintex on February 07, 2023, 09:53:11 AM
I'm starting to think that Alex Jones was right and there's something in the water :info
I also wonder how the BLM folks feel that their slogan got culturally appropriated by white men with purple hats :lol
Post by: HaughtyFrank on February 07, 2023, 10:20:19 AM
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 07, 2023, 05:10:14 PM
Is that the buck breaking guy?That's Tariq Nasheed. Kendi is better known for being paid millions to say things like this:
https://twitter.com/JohnHMcWhorter/status/1399670923221946372Quote from: https://www.penguin.co.uk/articles/2020/06/ibram-x-kendi-definition-of-antiracistRACIST: One who is supporting a racist policy through their actions or inaction or expressing a racist idea.
ANTIRACIST: One who is supporting an antiracist policy through their actions or expressing an antiracist idea.
Definitions anchor us in principles. This is not a light point: If we don’t do the basic work of defining the kind of people we want to be in language that is stable and consistent, we can’t work toward stable, consistent goals. Some of my most consequential steps toward being an antiracist have been the moments when I arrived at basic definitions. To be an antiracist is to set lucid definitions of racism/antiracism, racist/antiracist policies, racist/anti-racist ideas, racist/antiracist people. To be a racist is to constantly redefine racist in a way that exonerates one’s changing policies, ideas, and personhood.
So let’s set some definitions. What is racism? Racism is a marriage of racist policies and racist ideas that produces and normalizes racial inequities. Okay, so what are racist policies and ideas? We have to define them separately to understand why they are married and why they interact so well together. In fact, let’s take one step back and consider the definition of another important phrase: racial inequity.
...
A racist policy is any measure that produces or sustains racial inequity between racial groups. An antiracist policy is any measure that produces or sustains racial equity between racial groups. By policy, I mean written and unwritten laws, rules, procedures, processes, regulations, and guidelines that govern people. There is no such thing as a nonracist or race-neutral policy. Every policy in every institution in every community in every nation is producing or sustaining either racial inequity or equity between racial groups.
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The only remedy to racist discrimination is antiracist discrimination. The only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination. The only remedy to present discrimination is future discrimination.
It's interesting how extreme this is even when compared to previous arguments on this. Not long ago we could discuss the concept of a white liberal who votes for democrats while still being racist on some basic level. Or the literary idea of Atticus Finch allegedly being racist while simultaneously defending and protecting a black man. The idea that racial biases and resentment can be present regardless of one's political views strikes me as an uncontroversial, pretty basic concept.
By framing it the way he is you essentially turn racism into a contract, wherein white people must support any and all specific policy you deem to be anti-racist or else risk being labeled racist. This is quite an incentive for a lot of modern liberals of course, who love jumping through hoops for black people. But it also absolves any personal or individual agency. A white person who actively discriminates against black people in their personal life could very easily quality as anti-racist solely based on voting straight blue every 2-4 years. Regardless that said person votes blue because Trump Bad or because they're fiercely pro-choice, the contract still absolves them. This...isn't logical at all?
Post by: benjipwns on February 07, 2023, 06:08:51 PM
He's not the only dummy who thinks this way. And usually most people who think this way are the same (often white progressives) people who overestimate how much of the population is Black in all those surveys where they think a third or more of the country is.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 07, 2023, 06:31:08 PM
Kendi's also said that any sub population that does not match exactly the national population (why the national population? They never say) is evidence of deliberate racial inequality. So he'd force everything to have exactly 13% Black people or whatever. The NBA? Now 13% Black. Historical Black colleges? Now 13% Black. Wu Tang Clan? Now 13% Black.
He's not the only dummy who thinks this way. And usually most people who think this way are the same (often white progressives) people who overestimate how much of the population is Black in all those surveys where they think a third or more of the country is.
When you say force, I assume you mean government intervention to ensure private companies are employing at least 13% black people. Is this straight across the board or does it take qualifications into account. Say...for engineering. And I assume to do this, some white people would have to lose their jobs by government edict? And if those people who lost their job decided to vote for a politician who offered to reverse the policy, they'd be labeled racist correct?
Post by: benjipwns on February 07, 2023, 06:36:30 PM
When you say force, I assume you mean government intervention to ensure private companies are employing at least 13% black people. Is this straight across the board or does it take qualifications into account. Say...for engineering. And I assume to do this, some white people would have to lose their jobs by government edict? And if those people who lost their job decided to vote for a politician who offered to reverse the policy, they'd be labeled racist correct?Kendi's never bothered to outline any of those specifics, few of these people ever do because they aren't actually making real policy or realistic goals they're wishcasting. And in Kendi's case he definitely means the government as I noted above he wants a permanent executive branch department staffed full of Kendi's with UNLIMITED POWER that can just do whatever it wants to force the entire country to match national demographic statistics:
Quote from: https://www.politico.com/interactives/2019/how-to-fix-politics-in-america/inequality/pass-an-anti-racist-constitutional-amendment/
The amendment would make unconstitutional racial inequity over a certain threshold, as well as racist ideas by public officials (with “racist ideas” and “public official” clearly defined). It would establish and permanently fund the Department of Anti-racism (DOA) comprised of formally trained experts on racism and no political appointees. The DOA would be responsible for preclearing all local, state and federal public policies to ensure they won’t yield racial inequity, monitor those policies, investigate private racist policies when racial inequity surfaces, and monitor public officials for expressions of racist ideas. The DOA would be empowered with disciplinary tools to wield over and against policymakers and public officials who do not voluntarily change their racist policy and ideas.
Post by: Potato on February 07, 2023, 08:25:32 PM
Post by: Uncle on February 07, 2023, 08:53:38 PM
I know this is very culture warish and I should probably be more ashamed than I care to admit, but it is pretty satisfying seeing the anti-Hogwarts/JKR people being shouted down in the comments in places that are not over-run by the lunatic fringe.
the war is being fought by the lunatic extremes
rolling your eyes at those lunatics is officially sanctioned, as long as you don't start screaming about sjws and how trump will save us
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 07, 2023, 09:29:54 PM
JK Rowling is close to billionaire. You know who is a billionaire? Elon Musk. You know, the anti-trans guy who owns the social media app these people spend much of their time on when discussing how dangerous this game is. Often while tweeting from their iPhone, created from child labor (slavery). This is not some lazy "but you participate in a society" take either. If buying a game associated with a filthy rich bigot is wrong, why isn't posting on Twitter wrong for the exact reason?
I just don't get why they went with this. You're screaming and harassing people while little kids just want to...you know...play the little kid Harry Potter game. Fucking weirdos man.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on February 07, 2023, 09:45:17 PM
https://twitter.com/kimpetras/status/1622432054486138880
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 07, 2023, 09:56:54 PM
Why jump in front of a train you cannot stop. People like Harry Potter. A lot. Making it seem like tens of millions of people are saying "fuck trans people" doesn't strike me as good for them mentally or emotionally but hey, this is the train they decided to jump in front of. And the train won't stop for the rest of the year. This shit is still gonna be selling in the summer and into the holiday season.
Post by: benjipwns on February 07, 2023, 11:24:16 PM
JK Rowling is close to billionaire. You know who is a billionaire? Elon Musk. You know, the anti-trans guy who owns the social media app these people spend much of their time on when discussing how dangerous this game is. Often while tweeting from their iPhone, created from child labor (slavery). This is not some lazy "but you participate in a society" take either. If buying a game associated with a filthy rich bigot is wrong, why isn't posting on Twitter wrong for the exact reason?We've noted this a couple times in the shitbin thread, HaughtyFrank himself just did actually, they know they can't do anything about any of those things. It makes them feel completely powerless. But bullying you or others in their social circle? That might work, they might be able to establish control over you. Their "trickle down" theory is that then you'll help police others too and eventually everyone will police everyone else into only being moral at all times. But that's just the theoretical justification, in reality what really matters is convincing the more immediate people to do as they say or else they can cast you off until the social group is only "good people" which leads to...
I just don't get why they went with this. You're screaming and harassing people while little kids just want to...you know...play the little kid Harry Potter game. Fucking weirdos man.
It reminds me of when I was a kid and people I knew from church would do these "Stop Britney Spears/Marilyn Manson/Korn/etc" campaigns where you go door to door imploding parents not to buy their albums for their kids. I always remembered the church kids being like yea man we def made a difference. Then a week later you see that Britney Spears sold 500k records. :lolNow you're the underdog fighting against the great overwhelming evil that's consuming everyone. You're bravely resisting it, trying to save people from it. Your failure to save their souls justifies not only your own good morals but helps make clear just how many are falling into sin justifying your efforts to fight against it.
Why jump in front of a train you cannot stop. People like Harry Potter. A lot. Making it seem like tens of millions of people are saying "fuck trans people" doesn't strike me as good for them mentally or emotionally but hey, this is the train they decided to jump in front of. And the train won't stop for the rest of the year. This shit is still gonna be selling in the summer and into the holiday season.
They want to expose everyone else's moral failings (I won't speculate as to why) but unfortunately most people are moral so they have to desperately invent new moral failings constantly. If they reduce the scope of what are good morals or realize their fight is meaningless or never achieving anything then the crusade would end and then they would have nothing at all.
In the case of Harry Potter specifically many of them have a story about how they were once were sinners, they owned all the books and movies and merchandise, but now they have awoken to their sinful ways and deliberately changed their morals along with happily telling you how they destroyed all those evil things as part of their transition to being saved.
Post by: james on February 08, 2023, 12:10:36 AM
Post by: benjipwns on February 08, 2023, 12:54:48 AM
I don't know a single person buying the Harry Potter game but it might be because I associate with stable adultsSince when?
Post by: Polident Hive on February 08, 2023, 12:58:36 AM
Post by: Himu on February 08, 2023, 02:15:03 AM
https://youtu.be/BFpUjyM0orQ
And this is topical.
https://youtu.be/1Ls92RsPMYk
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on February 08, 2023, 09:13:22 AM
:thinking
Post by: Uncle on February 08, 2023, 09:24:00 AM
JK Rowling is close to billionaire. You know who is a billionaire? Elon Musk. You know, the anti-trans guy who owns the social media app these people spend much of their time on when discussing how dangerous this game is. Often while tweeting from their iPhone, created from child labor (slavery). This is not some lazy "but you participate in a society" take either. If buying a game associated with a filthy rich bigot is wrong, why isn't posting on Twitter wrong for the exact reason?We've noted this a couple times in the shitbin thread, HaughtyFrank himself just did actually, they know they can't do anything about any of those things. It makes them feel completely powerless. But bullying you or others in their social circle? That might work, they might be able to establish control over you. Their "trickle down" theory is that then you'll help police others too and eventually everyone will police everyone else into only being moral at all times. But that's just the theoretical justification, in reality what really matters is convincing the more immediate people to do as they say or else they can cast you off until the social group is only "good people" which leads to...
I just don't get why they went with this. You're screaming and harassing people while little kids just want to...you know...play the little kid Harry Potter game. Fucking weirdos man.It reminds me of when I was a kid and people I knew from church would do these "Stop Britney Spears/Marilyn Manson/Korn/etc" campaigns where you go door to door imploding parents not to buy their albums for their kids. I always remembered the church kids being like yea man we def made a difference. Then a week later you see that Britney Spears sold 500k records. :lolNow you're the underdog fighting against the great overwhelming evil that's consuming everyone. You're bravely resisting it, trying to save people from it. Your failure to save their souls justifies not only your own good morals but helps make clear just how many are falling into sin justifying your efforts to fight against it.
Why jump in front of a train you cannot stop. People like Harry Potter. A lot. Making it seem like tens of millions of people are saying "fuck trans people" doesn't strike me as good for them mentally or emotionally but hey, this is the train they decided to jump in front of. And the train won't stop for the rest of the year. This shit is still gonna be selling in the summer and into the holiday season.
They want to expose everyone else's moral failings (I won't speculate as to why) but unfortunately most people are moral so they have to desperately invent new moral failings constantly. If they reduce the scope of what are good morals or realize their fight is meaningless or never achieving anything then the crusade would end and then they would have nothing at all.
In the case of Harry Potter specifically many of them have a story about how they were once were sinners, they owned all the books and movies and merchandise, but now they have awoken to their sinful ways and deliberately changed their morals along with happily telling you how they destroyed all those evil things as part of their transition to being saved.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 08, 2023, 10:52:50 AM
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on February 08, 2023, 10:57:16 AM
Post by: james on February 08, 2023, 11:26:33 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/10vi4zq/girlfriendreviews_chat_harasses_streamer_for/
I havent viewed the video, is it worth being exposed to twitch for the lols?
Post by: james on February 08, 2023, 11:29:11 AM
Post by: BIONIC on February 08, 2023, 11:30:08 AM
Most reviewers are giving it a 9 3/4 depending on the platform.
:rimshot
Post by: Himu on February 08, 2023, 01:12:21 PM
Asian people are arguably the most racist people on the planet, I'm not gonna be lectured on alleged anti-Asian racism from black people when the VAST majority of Asian hate crimes and offenses were committed by white people. And yet the Asian community (online at least) deliberately decided to focus on black offenses. Suck my dick.
The point is calling out racism black people do and acting like black people are perfect or not capable of racism because of our history. All it does it shoulder responsibility and infantilizes black people. "Asians can be racist therefore I shouldn't care" isn't a real solution.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 08, 2023, 01:17:21 PM
I agree with that sentiment but I'm not acknowledging anti-asian racism from black people when there is no evidence that it's a problem. VS the actual evidence we have of massive increases in white anti-asian racism/attacks being ignored to put black attacks on a pedestal.Asian people are arguably the most racist people on the planet, I'm not gonna be lectured on alleged anti-Asian racism from black people when the VAST majority of Asian hate crimes and offenses were committed by white people. And yet the Asian community (online at least) deliberately decided to focus on black offenses. Suck my dick.
The point is calling out racism black people do and acting like black people are perfect or not capable of racism because of our history. All it does it shoulder responsibility and infantilizes black people. "Asians can be racist therefore I shouldn't care" isn't a real solution.
Post by: Nintex on February 08, 2023, 01:40:11 PM
This relentless focus on Harry Potter and harassing people for merely streaming a videogame makes one think shit can't be so bad in your life when Hogwarts is your main concern. Meanwhile a trans girl just won a Grammy and it's not even a big deal for peopleThey are allergic to positivity because they will no longer be able to play the victim.
https://twitter.com/kimpetras/status/1622432054486138880
This is why they keep moving goalposts to ever more unachievable goals.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on February 08, 2023, 01:42:12 PM
One really has to wonder who those websites, that decided to not cover the game out of protest, even represent. You certainly get the impression that small clique of people would really like to shape the entire industry and then throws a tantrum if it doesn't happen
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 08, 2023, 02:10:46 PM
The whole Hogwarts situation just reinforces that most people simply don't give a shit about the culture war in either direction and that it's actually way over presented on the internet.
One really has to wonder who those websites, that decided to not cover the game out of protest, even represent. You certainly get the impression that small clique of people would really like to shape the entire industry and then throws a tantrum if it doesn't happen
I feel like the midterms also showed that. The average person has never met a trans person, doesn't spend time thinking about them positively or negatively, and couldn't care less about the books in their kid's school library.
I saw a trans person at Dominos a couple weeks ago, the cashier (pink hair). I was almost excited like wow, I live in one of the most liberal cities in America and finally found one. She gave me my pizza, I said thank you very much and she didn't say you're welcome. :(
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on February 08, 2023, 02:55:32 PM
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on February 08, 2023, 02:55:51 PM
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 08, 2023, 03:29:18 PM
also what kind of pizzaThey have $8 large one topping pizza deals nearly every day. My topping
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green olives
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Post by: Tuckers Law on February 08, 2023, 03:32:06 PM
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 08, 2023, 03:56:58 PM
:lol
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on February 08, 2023, 04:05:31 PM
Post by: Potato on February 08, 2023, 04:34:16 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 08, 2023, 11:13:00 PM
Post by: Himu on February 10, 2023, 02:45:45 AM
Bless.
This is also why started to use the f-word again. I just stopped caring what people think or what's considered incorrect politically. Especially when we all grew up saying it.
Post by: Potato on February 10, 2023, 02:53:36 AM
Post by: Himu on February 10, 2023, 02:58:07 AM
God please bless this woman and defend children from trans ideology. Amiin.
Post by: Potato on February 10, 2023, 05:20:48 AM
https://www.thefp.com/p/i-thought-i-was-saving-trans-kids?r=7xe38&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post (https://www.thefp.com/p/i-thought-i-was-saving-trans-kids?r=7xe38&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post)That's pretty horrific.
God please bless this woman and defend children from trans ideology. Amiin.
Sounds like there's going to be some big revelation of medical malpractice in a similar vein to the opioid crisis in a few years.
Post by: Uncle on February 10, 2023, 07:26:54 AM
which, first of all I assume that's why the whistleblowing is happening - give the boys whatever, yeah hormones are cool, we want to encourage shrinking the patriarchy and promoting the female experience, but the second you're a woman being forced to help women destroy themselves, now it's personal and heartbreaking
secondly...what I find interesting is that these female-to-males are not represented anywhere online
I believe they exist, but they aren't ever the ones loudly complaining about anything, hogwarts and other harmful media, hardly a peep from ftms
what is it that links all these people and drives them to behave similarly, whether complaining or staying silent/invisible?
Post by: Uncle on February 10, 2023, 07:35:36 AM
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Other girls were disturbed by the effects of testosterone on their clitoris, which enlarges and grows into what looks like a microphallus, or a tiny penis. I counseled one patient whose enlarged clitoris now extended below her vulva, and it chafed and rubbed painfully in her jeans. I advised her to get the kind of compression undergarments worn by biological men who dress to pass as female. At the end of the call I thought to myself, “Wow, we hurt this kid.”
:mindblown
YOU ARE ON THESE HORMONES BECAUSE YOU WANT TO BE A MALE, YOU FEEL INTENSE DYSPHORIA FOR LACK OF A PENIS, AND NOW YOU'RE DISTURBED THAT YOU'RE GROWING ONE??
Post by: Nintex on February 10, 2023, 08:02:28 AM
It never made any sense anyway. I had girls in class, who liked to do 'boy' things like play soccer and fight.
In most cases those girls wanted to do boy things because they had an older brother or something. They never had any interest in changing their gender and they eventually moved on to do other things.
I imagine that if something like that happened today they would immediately be introduced to the wonders of gender transition.
Post by: Himu on February 10, 2023, 10:56:36 AM
that says the same thing as similar whistleblower reports coming out of the UK, that "first it was boys, then suddenly a massive number of teen girls out of nowhere"
which, first of all I assume that's why the whistleblowing is happening - give the boys whatever, yeah hormones are cool, we want to encourage shrinking the patriarchy and promoting the female experience, but the second you're a woman being forced to help women destroy themselves, now it's personal and heartbreaking
secondly...what I find interesting is that these female-to-males are not represented anywhere online
I believe they exist, but they aren't ever the ones loudly complaining about anything, hogwarts and other harmful media, hardly a peep from ftms
what is it that links all these people and drives them to behave similarly, whether complaining or staying silent/invisible?
No it's more like the trans man thing is becoming lopsided and overrepresented. As said, it was a small population of boys. It is not a small population of girls that are going into gender therapy. It's lesbians, it's straight tom boys;etc.
Post by: D3RANG3D on February 10, 2023, 04:45:09 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 10, 2023, 05:49:28 PM
Quote from: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/35631269/cam-thomas-fined-40k-anti-gay-remark-interview
Brooklyn Nets guard Cam Thomas has been fined $40,000 for using "derogatory and disparaging language" after Thursday's win over the Chicago Bulls, the NBA announced Friday.
Thomas was interviewed by TNT on the court alongside new teammate Spencer Dinwiddie following the Nets' 116-105 victory. Two days earlier, Dinwiddie had joked with the media in the wake of the Kyrie Irving trade with the Dallas Mavericks that while the Nets might not have acquired the most talented players in the deal -- which included Dorian Finney-Smith going to Brooklyn -- they did get the "best-looking."
"And the Nets needed some help in that department," Dinwiddie said.
Asked by TNT about Dinwiddie's comment, Thomas said postgame Thursday night: "We already had good-looking guys, no homo."
Post by: Transhuman on February 10, 2023, 07:29:04 PM
secondly...what I find interesting is that these female-to-males are not represented anywhere online
I believe they exist, but they aren't ever the ones loudly complaining about anything, hogwarts and other harmful media, hardly a peep from ftms
That's because guys are chill
Post by: Potato on February 10, 2023, 09:15:30 PM
Headline: Players are modding Hogwarts Legacy to make their characters paler
Actual mod name: Paler and Darker Skins for Player Character
:drake
Post by: benjipwns on February 10, 2023, 10:58:25 PM
edit: Oh, the massive "more context" doesn't embed thanks to The Bire's high quality fact checking technology that keeps Twitter disinformation off the forum.
Post by: D3RANG3D on February 11, 2023, 02:40:50 AM
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Post by: HardcoreRetro on February 11, 2023, 04:16:48 AM
what is it that links all these people and drives them to behave similarly, whether complaining or staying silent/invisible?
They're most likely lonely men finding a place of belonging in these communities. Women are generally less assertive than men, which is why you see the MTF community way more than the FTM one.
I think I'm not supposed to say this since it makes me a genocidal maniac.
Post by: Transhuman on February 11, 2023, 06:55:12 AM
Post by: benjipwns on February 11, 2023, 05:17:48 PM
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Quote from: https://www.versobooks.com/books/4061-the-transgender-issue
In this brilliant introduction to trans politics, journalist Shon Faye gives an incisive overview of systemic transphobia and argues that the struggle for trans rights is necessary to any struggle for social justice.
So often, Faye argues, trans people are understood as a “side issue,” the subjects of a toxic and increasingly polarized debate which generates reliable controversy for newspapers and talk shows. This media frenzy conceals a simple fact: that we are having the wrong conversation, a conversation in which trans people themselves are reduced to a talking point and denied a meaningful voice.
With skill, rigor, and heart, Faye uncovers the reality of what it means to be trans in a transphobic society. In this compellingly readable study, she explores issues of class, family, housing, healthcare, sex work, the prison system, and trans participation in the LGBTQ+ and feminist communities. What she finds, ultimately, is that when we fight for trans liberation, we fight for a better world for us all.
“My god, this book couldn’t be more timely here in the USA. I hope that all of my trans family come to understand from this book that no matter how hard others try to make us an issue, we are first and always people, individuals, and brave ones at that.”
– Kate Bornstein, author of Gender Outlaw
“Writing with astonishing patience, clarity, and ethical force, Shon Faye has gifted us an essential primer for our times. The Transgender Issue calls us into a much-needed solidarity, and makes the project of constructing and inhabiting a more free and just world for everyone feel urgent, possible, and exhilarating.”
– Maggie Nelson, author of On Freedom
“Shon Faye has written a book that models clarity in its writing and its moral vision... One learns here how to distinguish between arguments that merit a response and those which should be refused because they are either cruel or stupid. This is a monumental work and utterly convincing - crystal clear in its understanding of how the world should be.”
– Judith Butler
“A powerful new call for trans liberation.”
– Amia Srinivasan, The New Yorker
“Shon Faye makes a compelling case that transgender issues are inexorably linked with other social justice causes. The result is a bold and pragmatic guide for challenging societal transphobia comprehensively and intersectionally.”
– Julia Serano, author of Sexed Up
“A clear, intelligent, experience-based explanation of why the scapegoating of trans people must stop, while enthusiastically encouraging more trans people to join feminist, anti-racist movements for economic and social change.”
– Sarah Schulman
In case you're wondering what you, as an ally, can do, the first sentence of the conclusion chapter:
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There can be no trans liberation under capitalism.
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From the activist who coined the term comes a primer on intersectional environmentalism for the next generation of activists looking to create meaningful, inclusive, and sustainable change.
The Intersectional Environmentalist examines the inextricable link between environmentalism, racism, and privilege, and promotes awareness of the fundamental truth that we cannot save the planet without uplifting the voices of its people — especially those most often unheard. Written by Leah Thomas, a prominent voice in the field and the activist who coined the term "Intersectional Environmentalism," this book is simultaneously a call to action, a guide to instigating change for all, and a pledge to work towards the empowerment of all people and the betterment of the planet.
Thomas shows how not only are Black, Indigenous and people of color unequally and unfairly impacted by environmental injustices, but she argues that the fight for the planet lies in tandem to the fight for civil rights; and in fact, that one cannot exist without the other. An essential read, this book addresses the most pressing issues that the people and our planet face, examines and dismantles privilege, and looks to the future as the voice of a movement that will define a generation.
"The founder of Intersectional Environmentalist is building toward a greener, more equitable future by advocating for both sustainability and social justice while spotlighting communities that have been underrepresented in the space... She's aiming to set the movement on the right path with her new book, The Intersectional Environmentalist."—instyle.com
"Too often, environmentalist proposals and platforms appear willing to sacrifice people — usually the most vulnerable — in exchange for saving the planet. Leah Thomas’ The Intersectional Environmentalist aims to fix this problem, offering philosophical defenses for protecting those affected most by climate change, as well as strategies young activists can use to turn theory into practice."—Bustle.com
"Vital"—The Revelator
"An overarching yet detailed introduction to intersectional environmentalism...Thomas's work is essential brain food..."—Condé Nast Traveler
"Read this book and save the planet."—Soho House
"An essential read, this book gives voice to a movement that will define a generation."—Yale Climate Connections
"[The Intersectional Environmentalist] shares data in an accessible, compelling, and engaging manner, and explores a variety of topics, including ableism, veganism, green energy, representation and more. It’s dense, but not overwhelming, and it also provides a “tool kit” and a supplementary reading list, to help you expand your knowledge once you finish this book. The Intersectional Environmentalist is at once a call to action, a guide to galvanize change, and a way to empower all people towards the betterment of the planet."—She Does the City
"The Intersectional Environmentalist is a useful start for anyone looking to get involved with or understand more about environmental justice, and who wants to learn about it through a framework that ensures the most vulnerable are centered."—Shondaland
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AS WE dive into what intersectionality means, it’s important to note that this theory stems from the thoughts, experiences, and emotional labor of Black women. It may evolve and take shape in different ways past its original intent, as with environmentalism, but this theory, defined by Kimberlé Williams Crenshaw, is rooted in the duality of her experience as both Black and a woman. Any advancement or more broad adoption of intersectional theory should start with the fact that it was bred from the Black experience and was developed as a tool to help Black women feel seen, heard, and validated in their everyday lives. This theory reflects their experiences as they grappled with those two marginalized identities and faced double, interlocking oppressions and judgment. As Malcolm X said in a 1962 speech,
The most disrespected person in America is the Black woman.
The most unprotected person in America is the Black woman.
The most neglected person in America is the Black woman.1
Black women deserve both protection and appreciation. So as we continue to explore and dive deeper into intersectionality and intersectional environmentalism in this chapter, hold space for Black women. Protect and respect their theories and their profound resiliency; know that even in their struggle, Black women have given their knowledge to us to grow and advance society. It is an immense privilege to create space for and hold a piece of their magic and legacies every time the word “intersectionality” is said or written down—so don’t use it lightly and please don’t dilute its origins.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Leah Thomas et al. are brilliant
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I'm a social and environmental psychologist teaching at Chapman (Assistant Professor), where Leah Thomas got her degree from, and I am so excited to discuss intersectional environmentalism in my environmental justice class in a few weeks. Leah Thomas and crew are brilliant. I am in love with this book and framework. As a white gay/queer environmentalist who fights for all human rights, I finally feel like I have a framework for defining my own identity, and educating about what the (intersectional) environmentalist identity is. For instance, building off Susan's Clayton's definition of "environmental identity," the environmentalist identity is articulating the intersections of all issues/causes where the intersection becomes one with your identity and you actively love and protect all diverse forms of life. Coming from the academic world, we absolutely need to hear voices from younger generations of scholars and practitioners. By advocating for this *necessary* reconceptualization of environmentalism, which has historically been influenced by privileged groups dominating the discourse (e.g., liberal white cis/straight men), environmental educators can make a huge impact, not just on environmental/social issues, but particularly supporting younger generations to find and raise their voices. Thank you Leah Thomas and team! I so hope I can connect with you in the future.
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Join the fight for racially marginalized people with this pocket-sized guide filled with practical insights from one of the leading voices of the movement for equality and founder of the @officialmillennialblack Instagram.
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Written in her iconic Instagram style, this pocket-sized guide is a crucial starting point for every anti-racist ally, covering complex topics at the heart of anti-racist principles. Whether you are just finding your voice, have made a start but aren’t sure what to do next, or want a fresh viewpoint, Anti-Racist Ally introduces and explains the language of change and shows you how to challenge the system, beginning with yourself. Sophie reminds you that this is a learning process, which means facing difficult truths, becoming uncomfortable, and working through the embarrassment and discomfort.
The fight for justice isn’t easy there aren’t any shortcuts or quick wins. But together, anti-racist allies can use their power to truly change the world and lives.
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Written in her iconic Instagram style
:wut
Post by: Uncle on February 11, 2023, 08:57:13 PM
it's hard not to copy paste the entire article
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Students at Telluride experienced two styles of learning next to each other, but also two different cultures. From the initial “transformative-justice” workshop, students learned to snap their fingers when they agreed with what a classmate was saying. This practice immediately entered the seminar and was weaponized. One student would try out a controversial (or just unusual) view. Silence. Then another student would repeat a piece of anti-racist dogma, and the room would be filled with the click-clack of snapping fingers.
During the first week of the 2014 iteration of the seminar, focused on slavery, a Chinese-American student pointed to a moment in our text where white slave owners were providing food for the enslaved and suggested this showed there were two sides to the issue of slavery. Before I formulated a way to turn his intervention into a stepping-stone toward more sophisticated discussion, two students spoke up with other evidence from the text suggesting that slavery is a moral abomination unworthy of “both sides” discussion. By the end of the seminar, the initial student, who seemed like he might have a wavering moral compass, expressed a newfound commitment to justice.
In the 2022 anti-racism workshops, the non-black students learned that they needed to center black voices—and to shut up. Keisha reported that this was particularly difficult for the Asian-American students, but they were working on it. (Eventually, two of the Asian-American students would be expelled from the program for reasons that, Keisha said, couldn’t be shared with me.) The effects on the seminar were quick and dramatic. During the first week, participation was as you would expect: There were two or three shy students who only spoke in partner or small-group work, two or three outspoken students, and the rest in the middle. One of the black students was outspoken, one was in the middle, and one was shy. By the second week of the seminar, the two white students were effectively silent. Two of the Asian-American students remained active (the ones who would soon be expelled), but the vast majority of interventions were from the three black students. The two queer students, one Asian and one white, were entirely silent. The black students certainly had interesting things to say and important connections to make with their experiences and those of their family members, but a seminar succeeds when multiple perspectives clash into each other, grapple with each other, and develop—and that became impossible.
In their “transformative-justice” workshop, my students learned to name “harms.” This language, and the framework it expresses, come out of the prison-abolition movement. Instead of matching crimes with punishments, abolitionists encourage us to think about harms and how they can be made right, often through inviting a broader community to discern the impact of harms, the reasons they came about, and paths forward. In the language of the anti-racism workshop, a harm becomes anything that makes you feel not quite right. For a 17-year-old at a highly selective, all-expenses-paid summer program, newly empowered with the language of harm, there are relatively few sites at which to use this framework. My seminar became the site at which to try out—and weaponize—this language.
During our discussion of incarceration, an Asian-American student cited federal inmate demographics: About 60 percent of those incarcerated are white. The black students said they were harmed. They had learned, in one of their workshops, that objective facts are a tool of white supremacy. Outside of the seminar, I was told, the black students had to devote a great deal of time to making right the harm that was inflicted on them by hearing prison statistics that were not about blacks. A few days later, the Asian-American student was expelled from the program. Similarly, after a week focused on the horrific violence, death, and dispossession inflicted on Native Americans, Keisha reported to me that the black students and their allies were harmed because we hadn’t focused sufficiently on anti-blackness. When I tried to explain that we had four weeks focused on anti-blackness coming soon, as indicated on the syllabus, she said the harm was urgent; it needed to be addressed immediately.
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In a recent book, John McWhorter asserts that anti-racism is a new religion. It was an idea I quickly dismissed. Last summer, I found anti-racism to be a perversion of religion: I found a cult. From Wild Wild Country to the Nxivm shows to Scientology exposés, the features of cults have become familiar in popular culture. There is sleep deprivation. Ties to the outside world are severed. The sense of time collapses, with everything cult-related feeling extremely urgent. Participants are emotionally battered. In this weakened state, participants learn about and cling to dogmatic beliefs. Any outsider becomes a threat.
The dozen participants in this summer program were spending almost every hour of every day together, I was almost the only outsider they were encountering, and I was marked as a threat.
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The fourth week of the seminar examined theories of anti-blackness. It should have been predictable that the seminar would blow up during that week: Since the first days of the seminar, Keisha had been talking about how anti-blackness is qualitatively worse than every other system of oppression, so it made sense she would want us to be stuck on that week, unable to move forward—leaving anti-blackness as the course’s climax, and nadir. It happened that on the last day of the anti-blackness week, I had invited the students over to my home, where we would talk for a couple hours about the reading (a selection from Frank Wilderson’s Afropessimism) and then share a meal. By this time, the students’ faces were perpetually sullen—at least when Keisha was in the room. Occasionally, in one-on-one meetings, I could still kid around with them, or hear them chat among themselves about the mundane details of teenage life.
As I was beginning the seminar, sitting on the grass in my backyard, Keisha interrupted: “I think you should start with a lecture offering context for this reading and telling us the main points.” I reminded the class of the seminar format, of the reasons for it, and of the snippets of pedagogical theory we had read and discussed together, exploring the value of the seminar. Keisha insisted: I needed to give a lecture—immediately. Eventually, I acceded. We had a productive couple hours discussing Wilderson’s evocative text, and then I pointed out to students, “All the things I said in the initial lecture, I would have said during the course of the seminar. Each day, I try to insert the relevant background information and emphasize key points in short interventions so that the seminar can be guided by your questions. There are two dozen lectures I could give about Wilderson, each putting this text in a different light, but I want to share with you the information you want, in dialogue with the insights that you bring.”
To use the idiom du jour, my comment was triggering to Keisha. She launched into a long speech about how I was ignoring the demands of a black woman, and how I had made the space unsafe for black students. She then announced that she would take the students back to their house without eating the lunch I had waiting for them.
It was clear to me the situation was getting out of control, and after the students left my house, I reached out to the Telluride Association to share my concerns. They promised to investigate. Late Sunday night, I was informed the students were too exhausted to have class on Monday. Tuesday morning, no one was in the seminar room. I waited 10 minutes, and Keisha entered. She said the students had something to say to me. Ten more minutes of waiting in silence. Then all nine remaining students entered, each carrying a piece of paper. One by one they read a paragraph. Out of their mouths came everything Keisha had said to me during the “urgent” meetings she had with me after classes when students had allegedly been harmed. The students had all of the dogma of anti-racism, but no actual racism to call out in their world, and Keisha had channeled all of the students’ desire to combat racism at me.
They alleged: I had used racist language. I had misgendered Brittney Griner. I had repeatedly confused the names of two black students. My body language harmed them. I hadn’t corrected facts that were harmful to hear when the (now-purged) students introduced them in class. I invited them to think about the reasoning of both sides of an argument, when only one side was correct. The students ended with a demand: In light of all the harms they had suffered, they could only continue in the class if I abandoned the seminar format and instead lectured each day about anti-blackness, correcting any of them who questioned orthodoxy. The only critical perspectives they were receiving during the summer, they claimed, were from Keisha. A white girl—the one with all the snails—punctuated their point: “Keisha speaks for me: She says everything I think better than I ever could.”
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Because Telluride wanted to respect the democratic self-governance of the student community, the leadership didn’t feel comfortable intervening. If the environment was too toxic to continue, I could suspend the seminar, offering a couple meetings where I would act as a “guest speaker,” setting aside any pretense of continuing with the seminar format.
I emailed the students and Keisha with this decision, and with an offer to read and respond to any written work the students produced—and I never heard back. No one sent written work. None indicated a desire to attend a meeting where I would be a “guest speaker.” The students had almost two weeks left. With the seminar canceled, did they go home? Did they tell their parents? Did Keisha lecture to them all day? I don’t know. I had extricated myself from the abusive relationship, but nine students remained captive. Belief in democracy had authorized abuse, and there was no way out.
At least not for most of the students. But the three students who had left (two expelled and one who had visa problems) individually reached out to me. They wanted to do the readings. They wanted to write papers. They wanted to meet virtually and continue the seminar. So we continued: a seminar in exile, reading the classics of black thought: C.L.R. James, Charles Chesnutt, Harriet Jacobs, James and Grace Lee Boggs—believers in democracy, fugitives from democracy.
Post by: benjipwns on February 11, 2023, 11:05:47 PM
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:whatisthis
Post by: Potato on February 11, 2023, 11:29:07 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on February 11, 2023, 11:36:19 PM
The weird thing is that, unlike in the article, these people have plenty of better targets they could direct their anger at instead of a random woman who asked people to not smoke.
Post by: benjipwns on February 11, 2023, 11:38:57 PM
That's enough American stupidity for one day...Reading this as a challenge for me to start looking at Aussie Twitter more often.
Post by: Uncle on February 11, 2023, 11:41:25 PM
I know that guy is guilty just from the fact he doesn't capitalize Black and instead spreads anti-Blackness throughout his writing. :ufup
mother fucker I actually noticed this while reading it
Post by: Himu on February 12, 2023, 01:14:36 AM
that says the same thing as similar whistleblower reports coming out of the UK, that "first it was boys, then suddenly a massive number of teen girls out of nowhere"
which, first of all I assume that's why the whistleblowing is happening - give the boys whatever, yeah hormones are cool, we want to encourage shrinking the patriarchy and promoting the female experience, but the second you're a woman being forced to help women destroy themselves, now it's personal and heartbreaking
secondly...what I find interesting is that these female-to-males are not represented anywhere online
I believe they exist, but they aren't ever the ones loudly complaining about anything, hogwarts and other harmful media, hardly a peep from ftms
what is it that links all these people and drives them to behave similarly, whether complaining or staying silent/invisible?
This is wrong and many of the most radical trans are ftms and non binaries who tend to overwhelmingly be AFABS.
You just aren't in their spaces. In fact you're judging it off of the sites like Reset which lol to begin with. Look at the books Benji posted earlier. All or almost all are made by AFABS that are either queer or radical feminists with radical ideology. Why? Because being FTM many are introduced to radical feminism before transition. Ftms have legitimate power, they just push it through different avenues and that's mostly in activist spaces. They wield it more sharply. Look at BLM org. Its leaders are queer black women.
You're pretty ignorant of actual LGBTQ spaces and you're basing it off of a bunch of internet communities that don't represent the community at large.
The idea AFABS are quiet and just stuff does not stick to reality. They just go after different fish. A lot of their ideology comes from outright destroying the gender binary because that's what their feminist literature taught them to do. FTMs tend to be wayyyy more radical. It's not uncommon for a woman to be introduced to rad fem ideology and then transition into a man.
Take this book I read for journalism grad school. Who is written by? A trans man.
https://www.amazon.com/View-Somewhere-Undoing-Journalistic-Objectivity-ebook/dp/B07XYG1Q81/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=3QVS75TEBNWG4&keywords=the+view+from+somewhere&qid=1676183498&sprefix=the+view+from+somew%2Caps%2C193&sr=8-1
Trans men are among the forefront and very vocal. You just aren't in a place to find them. Trans men aren't mostly interested in reeeeing about shit on a forum like RE. They're more into actual community organization and destroying gender norms. If you think queer women and by extension non binary AFABS and FTMs don't have power you aren't looking.
Post by: benjipwns on February 12, 2023, 01:31:45 AM
Ftms have legitimate power, they just push it through different avenues and that's mostly in activist spaces. They wield it more sharply. Look at BLM org. Its leaders are queer black women.I just wish there was some way we could understand why FTM/AFABs and MTF/AMABs go about their activism in different ways online but I can't see any independent variable to even use as a starting point, there's literally not a single piece of information I could look at and begin developing any logically sound theory about these differences between the two groups.
You're pretty ignorant of actual LGBTQ spaces and you're basing it off of a bunch of internet communities that don't represent the community at large.
The idea AFABS are quiet and just stuff does not stick to reality. They just go after different fish.
Post by: Himu on February 12, 2023, 01:46:25 AM
This is more about activism in trans spaces changing in the last ten years. As radical feminism, queerdom, and trans become even more intertwined the FTMs gain even more power. It's gotten to the point where there's almost no line of separation between queer and radfem. They consume and follow the same stuff.
Post by: Himu on February 12, 2023, 02:11:08 AM
It's not politically correct to say but you know what? Fuck it, baby. Let it all out.
Women tend to follow the group.
Men tend to be loners and leaders.
Women are about fitting into their social dynamic and seek heavy approval of other women. That isn't to say men don't do similar, as we are all human and have a tendency to mimic our group. But generally speaking women are followers and they follow what is popular. Social approval matters much more to women and girls. This explains why FTMs are the rage now in a way you never saw FTMs become the rage with men. With girls it's the cool thing now and girls want social acceptance. Who were the good, polite ones as kids that followed all the rules? For the most part? Girls! Girls don't like to break the rules or get into trouble especially between themselves. Does this mean they're innocent and completely clean? Nope. But they tend to follow the herd to create less tension with the group.
Anyways, how does this relate to my main topic of this post. Well, it's funny how you see trans communities online and who are the most cliquey? Who are the most seeking approval? The trans women. Because women are about cooperation and the group.
The men generally do their own thing and are more alone.
It's an interesting mirror of the sexes. That could explain things a bit. Not all, but just throwing it out there.
Post by: Potato on February 12, 2023, 03:51:42 AM
Just search #auspol and read as the lefty idiots and the dickheads of the far right embarrass me in the worst possible wayThat's enough American stupidity for one day...Reading this as a challenge for me to start looking at Aussie Twitter more often.
Post by: team filler on February 12, 2023, 03:58:08 AM
Asian people are arguably the most racist people on the planet, I'm not gonna be lectured on alleged anti-Asian racism from black people when the VAST majority of Asian hate crimes and offenses were committed by white people. And yet the Asian community (online at least) deliberately decided to focus on black offenses. Suck my dick.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLzKQUHiTto
patrice eventually found out that it's because the asians don't see black people as human. it's some ancient cultural thing where asians see people with dark skin as ghosts or evil spirits :lol
fuck the asians, they are awful to anybody but whites.
Post by: BIONIC on February 12, 2023, 06:44:54 AM
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:whoo :jeanluc :kobeyuck
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Post by: Himu on February 12, 2023, 06:59:01 PM
https://thepostmillennial.com/california-pre-k-teacher-says-childhood-innocence-is-a-myth-teaches-sexuality-to-toddlers
Post by: Potato on February 12, 2023, 07:25:39 PM
:cambyGee, couldn't have predicted he would look like this
https://thepostmillennial.com/california-pre-k-teacher-says-childhood-innocence-is-a-myth-teaches-sexuality-to-toddlers (https://thepostmillennial.com/california-pre-k-teacher-says-childhood-innocence-is-a-myth-teaches-sexuality-to-toddlers)
https://mobile.twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/1624805396077584387?
Post by: BIONIC on February 12, 2023, 07:34:05 PM
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What’s his bore username? :society
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Post by: Potato on February 12, 2023, 07:35:05 PM
Just scan the PS5 thread...spoiler (click to show/hide)What’s his bore username? :society[close]
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Post by: benjipwns on February 13, 2023, 01:12:54 PM
https://twitter.com/andrew_lilico/status/1624738461063299075
Post by: Potato on February 13, 2023, 02:50:57 PM
Post by: Uncle on February 13, 2023, 06:24:43 PM
https://twitter.com/CastelianNES/status/1624782109863821313
https://twitter.com/CastelianNES/status/1624803604241559554
Post by: benjipwns on February 13, 2023, 07:00:39 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 13, 2023, 07:07:53 PM
Uh, wouldn't that apply to all works with characters not just books but movies and TV and whatever else? This guy is out here violating character consent and I'm supposed to listen to him?!?Why are you assuming he consented to you reading, thinking about and responding to his tweets? :bolo
Post by: Himu on February 13, 2023, 07:50:22 PM
Wokeism is Marxism and furthermore, liberals are reflexively dismissing conservative criticism of it just because it's coming from conservatives while turning their head to what it does to society.
To be fair, conservative pundits have historically always been in a moral panic.
The problem is that because of this liberals are oft too dismissive when legitimate concerns happen.
And conservatives are not self aware enough to admit that they cause this wariness in liberal orthodoxy.
But this makes liberals blind to their own bubble and echo chamber as they try to redo society to their own values. But it's done in such a way that casts others out for wrong think and acts as a Marxist adjacent thought.
To be fair, conservative pundits have historically always been in a moral panic.
The problem is that because of this liberals are oft too dismissive when legitimate concerns happen.
And conservatives are not self aware enough to admit that they cause this wariness in liberal orthodoxy.
But this makes liberals blind to their own bubble and echo chamber as they try to redo society to their own values. But it's done in such a way that casts others out for wrong think and acts as a Marxist adjacent thought.
I also resent the way blackness is presented as a protected class. This will only end in massive societal backlash against black people at large. This ideology is D A N G E R O U S.
Imagine the toil and struggles black people had to overcome only for us to be propped up as eternal victims incapable of independent thought. The current black activism is an insult to the victories and sacrifices of our ancestors. It is objectively pathetic and personally sickening.
Leftism is inherently incompatible with a healthy society and our forebears were right: socialism and communism do not work. These are things I realized in NYC when I experienced all of this first hand and I'm glad to see others realizing it.
Post by: benjipwns on February 13, 2023, 08:19:09 PM
https://twitter.com/gabagoolmarx/status/1624644731287351298
https://twitter.com/gabagoolmarx/status/1625302647061225475
Post by: james on February 13, 2023, 08:28:15 PM
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Post by: benjipwns on February 13, 2023, 08:51:46 PM
Taylor is a mans nameStop harassing her, right-winger.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on February 13, 2023, 08:57:31 PM
Taylor is a mans name
Did i get a new name?
Post by: Uncle on February 13, 2023, 08:59:04 PM
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Post by: Potato on February 13, 2023, 09:28:20 PM
Taylor is a mans nameTaylor is a misspelled surname. People with surnames as first names should be beaten
Post by: chronovore on February 14, 2023, 12:48:23 AM
Taylor is a mans nameTaylor is a misspelled surname. People with surnames as first names should be beaten
No, but their parents should be.
Post by: team filler on February 14, 2023, 01:00:18 AM
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Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on February 14, 2023, 11:56:40 PM
:gddr5
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Tucker employs classic GamerGate cult leader techniques in setting up Ukraine and Zelenskyy as objects of hate and scapegoating. It’s no different from how the right-wing treats Hillary Clinton, which is not a coincidence.
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Chapo is virulently pro-Russia, anti-liberal and anti-Clinton which are qualities it shares with the far-right. Chapo was formed in Spring 2016 and was born out of GamerGate.
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These active measures have been going on for decades, but since 2014, when GamerGate was launched by Fredrick Brennan, Milo Yiannopolous, Steve Bannon, Mike Cernovich and other pro-Putin neo-nazis, we have all been under direct assault by Russia-backed psychological operations designed to tear America apart from the inside out.
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#ArrestMikeFlynn
:salute
Post by: benjipwns on February 15, 2023, 12:10:05 AM
https://twitter.com/jimstewartson/status/1625311092858830849
:whoo
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https://twitter.com/jimstewartson/status/1625691574578614275
Post by: benjipwns on February 15, 2023, 12:20:19 AM
Quote from: https://jimstewartson.substack.com/p/exhaustion
One of the primary tactics of psychological war is exhausting your enemy with relentless attacks and, as Steve Bannon said “flooding the zone with shit.”Y'all, I'm just so tired about these Russian plots everywhere I look, won't someone just arrest the Russian Scientologist Traitors already!
It may be that my main advantage in exposing this psychological war and its enemy combatants is that I refuse to stop working, regardless of what they do. In short, I am stubborn AF and know all their tricks.
But some days, it’s very tough. And today is one of those days where it‘s frankly hard to type because it feels so pointless.
For example, the amount of damage these two men have caused to society, to our own families and friends, through their Kremlin propaganda and psyops just makes you want to give up. Their goal is to brainwash the world so they can remake it in their own twisted image with Putin’s assistance. They are flaunting it in our faces at a quintessentially American event. And no one is doing a thing about it.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Foz9Gg6aIAEdib-?format=jpg&name=small)
At the same time as Musk is meeting with Kremlin asset Rupert Murdoch, he is preventing the Ukrainian military from using Starlink because “we will not enable escalations of conflict that may lead to WW3.” This is an incredibly sickening move that betrays his psychopathy and his compromising relationship with Putin.
There were Super bowl ads for an anti-LGBTQ+ group pushing dominionist theology — “He Gets Us” — and lots of local ads for Scientology. A society that allows a dangerous cult like Scientology to continue for decades is not a society doing its job of protecting us.
In the meantime, the worst traitor in American history continues his project to brainwash America into theocratic fascism. And now he’s teaching his cult how to run psyops themselves. And no one seems to give a shit.
https://twitter.com/jimstewartson/status/1624535246074175489
The moves being made right now are preparatory. Their goal is to take over the rest of the US Government in 2024, one way or the other. They are going to stress every system and try to exhaust us all into giving up in the meantime.
Staring down the prospect of doing this for at least another two years is exhausting all by itself. Why should my friends and I be responsible for exposing this? I could be creating internet games, having fun and making money. I’ve been paying the government for 40 years through taxes. Why aren’t they doing their fucking jobs?
<sigh>
Don’t worry, I’m not going anywhere, I will continue this until I’m confident my kids and grandkids will grow up in a free country. I see that as my job as a father.
But, I am exhausted today. I hope you don’t mind me sharing it. 💙
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Post by: Nintex on February 15, 2023, 07:11:06 AM
Hello fellow cum blasters and womb vessels.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 15, 2023, 07:36:48 AM
https://twitter.com/jimstewartson/status/1624207346351366144
:gddr5QuoteTucker employs classic GamerGate cult leader techniques in setting up Ukraine and Zelenskyy as objects of hate and scapegoating. It’s no different from how the right-wing treats Hillary Clinton, which is not a coincidence.
:ohhhQuoteChapo is virulently pro-Russia, anti-liberal and anti-Clinton which are qualities it shares with the far-right. Chapo was formed in Spring 2016 and was born out of GamerGate.
:thinkingQuoteThese active measures have been going on for decades, but since 2014, when GamerGate was launched by Fredrick Brennan, Milo Yiannopolous, Steve Bannon, Mike Cernovich and other pro-Putin neo-nazis, we have all been under direct assault by Russia-backed psychological operations designed to tear America apart from the inside out.
:PQuote#ArrestMikeFlynn
:salute
I love fuck boys like this, who hate conspiracy theorists, but also change a few words in their posts and they could be mistaken for Alex Jones :rash
Post by: HaughtyFrank on February 15, 2023, 10:38:43 AM
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Post by: D3RANG3D on February 15, 2023, 05:31:05 PM
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Post by: benjipwns on February 15, 2023, 10:55:40 PM
twitter.com/TuckerOriginals/status/1625292727112851459Almost all the talking heads are washed up long-time Fox News regulars. :lol
Post by: team filler on February 16, 2023, 12:32:58 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/b63Ja7q.jpeg)
Post by: Potato on February 16, 2023, 01:27:50 AM
Post by: chronovore on February 16, 2023, 02:53:12 AM
:brain
Yeah, that's… unfortunate.
Post by: james on February 16, 2023, 09:49:52 AM
Post by: Uncle on February 16, 2023, 10:39:32 AM
Post by: Nintex on February 16, 2023, 02:11:18 PM
I've seen them fuck up simple things like POV on the regular.
Post by: BIONIC on February 16, 2023, 02:23:02 PM
I'm starting to notice that these bitches in general don't know what the abbreviations they use actually mean.
I've seen them fuck up simple things like POV on the regular.
These dumb fucking bitches. Everybody knows that POV means Penis On Vagina :lol
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 16, 2023, 02:50:19 PM
I will say though that it's funny because the trans people of their transitioned gender are acting the way their target gender acts.
It's not politically correct to say but you know what? Fuck it, baby. Let it all out.
Women tend to follow the group.
Men tend to be loners and leaders.
Women are about fitting into their social dynamic and seek heavy approval of other women. That isn't to say men don't do similar, as we are all human and have a tendency to mimic our group. But generally speaking women are followers and they follow what is popular. Social approval matters much more to women and girls. This explains why FTMs are the rage now in a way you never saw FTMs become the rage with men. With girls it's the cool thing now and girls want social acceptance. Who were the good, polite ones as kids that followed all the rules? For the most part? Girls! Girls don't like to break the rules or get into trouble especially between themselves. Does this mean they're innocent and completely clean? Nope. But they tend to follow the herd to create less tension with the group.
Anyways, how does this relate to my main topic of this post. Well, it's funny how you see trans communities online and who are the most cliquey? Who are the most seeking approval? The trans women. Because women are about cooperation and the group.
The men generally do their own thing and are more alone.
It's an interesting mirror of the sexes. That could explain things a bit. Not all, but just throwing it out there.
Do you pat yourself on the back and get a hard on after saying "it's not politically correct but I'm going to say it anyway" lmao. You guys act like the FBI is going to beat down your door if you say "women do this, men do that hurrr." Corny. :lol
We all live within social dynamics and the design of society ensures most people ensure approval from desired groups. That's not a female or male thing, it's generally a human thing in the world we've created. This idea that men don't seek approval from other men is laughable in the context of entire behavior patterns being based on doing (and not doing) things based on their manliness.
This reminds me of the "women are emotional, men are rational" thing. As if men aren't the leaders in killing or harming people who make them mad. People are emotional and seek approval from desired groups. How you process or recognize this differently depending on gender is a You problem, not a We or They problem.
Post by: Uncle on February 16, 2023, 02:56:14 PM
This reminds me of the "women are emotional, men are rational" thing. As if men aren't the leaders in killing or harming people who make them mad.
this just seems like a mirror of a similar sentiment
you might as well say "women operate in the realm of mental abuse, while men gravitate toward the physical"
Post by: Himu on February 16, 2023, 03:16:24 PM
I will say though that it's funny because the trans people of their transitioned gender are acting the way their target gender acts.
It's not politically correct to say but you know what? Fuck it, baby. Let it all out.
Women tend to follow the group.
Men tend to be loners and leaders.
Women are about fitting into their social dynamic and seek heavy approval of other women. That isn't to say men don't do similar, as we are all human and have a tendency to mimic our group. But generally speaking women are followers and they follow what is popular. Social approval matters much more to women and girls. This explains why FTMs are the rage now in a way you never saw FTMs become the rage with men. With girls it's the cool thing now and girls want social acceptance. Who were the good, polite ones as kids that followed all the rules? For the most part? Girls! Girls don't like to break the rules or get into trouble especially between themselves. Does this mean they're innocent and completely clean? Nope. But they tend to follow the herd to create less tension with the group.
Anyways, how does this relate to my main topic of this post. Well, it's funny how you see trans communities online and who are the most cliquey? Who are the most seeking approval? The trans women. Because women are about cooperation and the group.
The men generally do their own thing and are more alone.
It's an interesting mirror of the sexes. That could explain things a bit. Not all, but just throwing it out there.
Do you pat yourself on the back and get a hard on after saying "it's not politically correct but I'm going to say it anyway" lmao. You guys act like the FBI is going to beat down your door if you say "women do this, men do that hurrr." Corny. :lol
We all live within social dynamics and the design of society ensures most people ensure approval from desired groups. That's not a female or male thing, it's generally a human thing in the world we've created. This idea that men don't seek approval from other men is laughable in the context of entire behavior patterns being based on doing (and not doing) things based on their manliness.
This reminds me of the "women are emotional, men are rational" thing. As if men aren't the leaders in killing or harming people who make them mad. People are emotional and seek approval from desired groups. How you process or recognize this differently depending on gender is a You problem, not a We or They problem.
Nope. Women seek social acceptance far more than men and are overwhelmingly rule followers far more than men. Men and women differ socially in leaps and bounds. It's why when your dad gets home he wants to watch TV or read or why your mom wants to talk to her friends on the phone. Men have a "leave me alone" drive.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/01/190130175604.htm
The "men are rational, women are emotional" thing is dumb. Men and women are equally emotional but we articulate it in different ways. Men and women aren't the same and we have a lot of different characteristics. You didn't speak directly to anything I wrote, you just used your liberal talking points to talk *at* me. You'd do better to understand rather than belittle, especially when the person you're talking to gives you the greatest amount of respect.
Women are followers. The more you observe social dynamics the more you'll see it. This isn't inherently bad though. Historically men had to go to war and would be off doing their thing with the women left to taking care of the family. Often they likely relied on each other to create their village. It's just one more slice of the pie that makes women so great.
Post by: Himu on February 16, 2023, 03:26:54 PM
https://www.forbes.com/sites/traversmark/2021/01/04/are-women-more-cooperative-than-men-a-psychologist-answers/?sh=2d4413f57c7e
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2010-jul-28-la-fi-networking-20100728-story.html
The group really, really matters way more for women because to women the group means survival far more.
I guess this the part where you yap at me that men and women are biologically the same. Lul.
If you've been paying attention to the gender question you've also likely paid attention to the discussion that boys are being left behind. Study after study shows girls kick boys ass in school in the early years. This directly supports what I said about boys and girls.
https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2014/09/why-girls-get-better-grades-than-boys-do/380318/
Men and women differ not only biologically but also sociologically.
Addendum: I find it funny you started out your post with some sniveling foreward about how "these types say they can't say what they want" but then your entire post is some passive aggressive bitch made deflection supporting that yes, you are mad. :umad
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 16, 2023, 03:55:30 PM
One of my earliest memories of seeing this play out for my parents was when we moved to the suburbs. All the houses in the area were newly built and didn't have lawns initially. As people moved in, they started putting sod down, for grass. My dad didn't like sod so he used seeds. Our lawn looked like absolute utter shit for months as the grass grew. Meanwhile 97% of the houses near us were using mulch and had perfect green grass. People talked. Neighbors stared. Whispers grew. My dad didn't give a fuck. And within a year, the lawn was perfect while multiple houses around us had to re-sod due to weather conditions (rain).
Being the guy with the perfect lawn who cuts it every Saturday morning is a group dynamic and influence thing. Being the handyman is a social group dynamic thing, or was lol. Being the guy who got a new car is a group dynamic thing. If anything, women are maintaining their group dynamics while many men are no longer achieving things that previous generations of men sought: the wife, kids, picket fence, good job. I suppose the group dynamic now for many is whether you like Marvel capeshit or DC capeshit. Playstation or Xbox. Onlyfans or Pornhub...
Post by: Himu on February 16, 2023, 04:13:41 PM
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When I was a kid taking AP courses and the like, the girls in those classes would all form study groups, and were very serious about academics. The boys, myself included, refused to have study groups, and we seemed to always be bragging and trying to one-up each other about how little we studied. Most of us were much more interested in gaming the system than learning whatever we were supposed to be learning.
I've never really considered the implications as they relate to gender, but I do think this outlook is critical for adjusting to life after school. Things are never as they seem. Gaming the system is the only goal, unless one works in a legitimate field in the sciences of whatever. The rest of us work in commerce, which is just a sea of liers and thieves. No room for earnest study, if I'm making any sense...
See? Girls are all about the group.and tend to follow trends within that group. This is both good and bad.
Good: girls get good grades in school because their girl group prioritizes good grades.
Bad: "Dad, I'm making an Only Fans."
How much you wanna BET, that the Only Fans girl is only doing it because it's cool amongst her friends?
Women are followers of what their social group is doing.
Men are often doing something else entirely but often it's not aligned with a group but for themselves.
This is both good and bad.
Good: Men create the Personal Computer in their garage, ignoring ALL social calls of their class to go to college, get a 9 to 5 job. The result is something like Apple.
Bad: Men use their leadership to corrupt and abuse. Most men are CEOs and data suggests most CEOs are narcissists which is individualism to an extreme.
So when I say women are followers I don't think it's a bad thing. It's just a very observable social dynamic. In fact, men bear the brunt of our excesses far worse than women!
Watch little kids (pause) and you'll see this happen naturally with no one's direct involvement.
While it is true that men have a group too, because after all we are human (didn't I say this in the original gatdamn post?), Men usually use the group as a way to compete and exoresss their individuality or as a mechanism for contacts and building a network to help them prosper in their career which lifts them even more as an individual and leader. For men, the group isnkostlu a means to get ahead. For women, the group is a means for support and something worth following to get that support.
The more you look at social dynamics the more you see it. It's utterly fascinating.
Post by: Uncle on February 16, 2023, 04:22:23 PM
you said the onlyfans girl is doing it because it's cool among her friends, how does the above quote not imply peer pressure not to study among friends?
Post by: Himu on February 16, 2023, 04:47:49 PM
Also men tend to not care about things they don't give a fuck about. If he doesn't care about studying he won't do it.
For example, I used to be in band in middle school and high school. I played trombone. Our entire section was only ever male besides one or two exceptions. Our band director would have the brass section compete. all. the. time. Brass was overwhelmingly male. He never had woodwind compete for first chair of their section. It seemed the girls gave far less of a shit who the best flute player was. They just cared if their section played well. Our band director would have the boys compete. So he would regularly have us play a section of music and test who could play it the best. Then he would reward the winners with chair arrangements. The goal is to get first chair. I won first chair through this process so many fucking times. Our section never studied together. We just took our instruments home every day and practiced our music and then when it came to class it and we were prompted we were allowed to see who played the best. I never played sports competitively but apparently it was similar: the group is there for men to express our individuality. We do what's best for the team obviously, but we also want to be the best person on that team.
This isn't to say girls aren't competitive. They totally are. And they compete in different ways. But they're often about their group far more than dudes. Men though? You get a group of men and they'll naturally try to see who is the best. We put us before the group. Women, for the most part, seem to be the opposite.
In the example provided in the Reddit, the boys are trying to figure who the best is at not giving a fuck. So even when we fail we compete. There's alwaya an attempt to establish a hierarchy of leadership.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on February 16, 2023, 05:05:11 PM
https://twitter.com/joshgondelman/status/1625872227794096128
Meanwhile the NYT stands by their reporting and is not happy to see journalists attacking their colleagues
https://twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1626022036220035073
https://twitter.com/maxwelltani/status/1626324277422133253
Post by: Himu on February 16, 2023, 05:07:29 PM
Public letter signed by many NYT contributors who are upset about their recent articles regarding Trans issues. They also coordinated with GLAAD which wrote a similar letter.
https://twitter.com/joshgondelman/status/1625872227794096128
Meanwhile the NYT stands by their reporting and is not happy to see journalists attacking their colleagues
https://twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1626022036220035073
https://twitter.com/maxwelltani/status/1626324277422133253
Thanks Frank, I was just about to post this.
GLAAD is insane. It's also interesting how corporate America is reaping the very same activism they have systemically coddled.
Post by: Nintex on February 16, 2023, 05:11:49 PM
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swimming upstream against currents of bigotry and pseudoscience
:spiders
Post by: Potato on February 16, 2023, 06:01:00 PM
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 16, 2023, 06:13:19 PM
but your quote also implies that all the guys were hanging out bragging and one-upping each other about how little they studiedThis goes back to the emotional/violence thing. We say women are doing x while blatantly ignoring men doing the same thing in different ways/extremes. I've also known Himu long enough to remember our convos about black kids in classrooms and the way some (not all) don't take school seriously. The "being smart is acting white" crowd. How can you recognize that as a group dynamic and peer pressure, but not recognize it in the example you gave about boys not studying for tests?
you said the onlyfans girl is doing it because it's cool among her friends, how does the above quote not imply peer pressure not to study among friends?
Post by: Tuckers Law on February 16, 2023, 06:58:17 PM
So happy to see journalists and news outlets remember their ethics statements and push back against activism infecting their ranks. Hopefully this signals a wider push.
I'm skeptical it will, unfortunately. These types have been labeling the NYT as damn near enemy #1 for a long while before this, so them taking a firm against being browbeaten by unhinged activists will likely just reaffirm that they are "welcoming the new nazis".
Post by: Nintex on February 16, 2023, 06:59:25 PM
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 16, 2023, 07:46:45 PM
Yea I hate complaining about process, tone etc but still...this is just a dumb fight to pick, over a children's IP that is probably one of the 5-10 most beloved "things" in the world.
Post by: benjipwns on February 16, 2023, 09:30:16 PM
Meanwhile the NYT stands by their reporting and is not happy to see journalists attacking their colleaguesIt may not be politically correct but I'm going to say it, so much for free speech and a free press at the New York Times. Now they're demanding their employees support genocide or else. This is literally fascism, the New York Times just declared itself an enemy of the people and is about to learn that freedom of the press doesn't mean freedom from consequences. If you're an ally who cares about trans liberation you cannot read the New York Times. Anyone who reads the New York Times is someone who wants marginalized people dead. This puts Black @nytimes staff in danger.
twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1626022036220035073
twitter.com/maxwelltani/status/1626324277422133253
Post by: HaughtyFrank on February 16, 2023, 10:50:55 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 16, 2023, 10:57:52 PM
I'd honestly kind of like to see a proper argument between people who are pro and anti trans youth care. Like, an actual formal discussion with people citing their studies, trying to refute the points of the other one and so on. And I don't mean between the Rowling's and Michael Hobbes of this world but people who work on this for a living. Wouldn't that be kind of nice? A discussion that doesn't instantly devolve into "you're killing people" or "eat shit"?You don't debate fascists, you put them under the jail. Anyone who debates the pro-genocide side instantly becomes pro-genocide. You suggesting this makes me side-eye you.
Post by: benjipwns on February 17, 2023, 01:36:26 AM
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on February 17, 2023, 05:26:14 AM
I'd honestly kind of like to see a proper argument between people who are pro and anti trans youth care. Like, an actual formal discussion with people citing their studies, trying to refute the points of the other one and so on. And I don't mean between the Rowling's and Michael Hobbes of this world but people who work on this for a living. Wouldn't that be kind of nice? A discussion that doesn't instantly devolve into "you're killing people" or "eat shit"?
Apparently Contrapoints was interviewed extensively for that upcoming with trials of JKR podcast, but they've already come out and pre-emptively disassociated themselves from it as 'legitimate' discourse, so I guess said or acknowledged some things they would rather not have.
e: philosophytube was asked to contribute to UK based dialogue but used the cop out "Acknowledging there is more than one side pretends I have no right to exist so I won't debate my existence".
So the BBC use Laura Kate Dale - an actual fucking idiot - as their rentaquote trans supporter :stahp
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on February 17, 2023, 05:26:28 AM
https://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/status/1626240853219082241
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onan
Post by: HaughtyFrank on February 17, 2023, 11:43:42 AM
https://twitter.com/gormdegarth/status/1626595123646857220
...or the author just argues it because it's more ammo against Rowling. Guess we'll see
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 17, 2023, 11:59:38 AM
Post by: Uncle on February 17, 2023, 01:10:39 PM
I wonder if we reached the point where people realize that diversity without rhyme or reason feels like a very superficial effort
https://twitter.com/gormdegarth/status/1626595123646857220
...or the author just argues it because it's more ammo against Rowling. Guess we'll see
when you go so far left you find yourself agreeing with daniel vavra about why Kingdom Come Deliverance should be kept mostly pure and white
https://www.resetera.com/threads/separating-games-from-their-creators-kingdom-come-deliverance.17250/
Post by: Propagandhim on February 17, 2023, 01:25:20 PM
I wonder if we reached the point where people realize that diversity without rhyme or reason feels like a very superficial effort
https://twitter.com/gormdegarth/status/1626595123646857220
...or the author just argues it because it's more ammo against Rowling. Guess we'll see
These people are mentally ill.
Post by: Nintex on February 17, 2023, 02:47:24 PM
Post by: jorma on February 17, 2023, 03:13:19 PM
they are losing their mind while that terf bitch just sits there eating crackers (and tweets about irrelevant shit like the plight of cis women in Iran)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 17, 2023, 03:14:44 PM
Post by: HardcoreRetro on February 17, 2023, 04:37:58 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 17, 2023, 07:24:43 PM
Not quite sure what this pastor is trying to say... :hmm
Post by: NekoFever on February 18, 2023, 05:02:06 AM
I wonder if we reached the point where people realize that diversity without rhyme or reason feels like a very superficial effort
https://twitter.com/gormdegarth/status/1626595123646857220
...or the author just argues it because it's more ammo against Rowling. Guess we'll see
I’m playing the game at the moment and it’s funny because you can see them trying really hard to be diverse and accommodating. From the start, the character creation gives you free rein to mix and match looks, voice and gender identity.
There are lots of Indian characters (as the review says), a prominent trans character, African exchange students, the flying instructor is Japanese, the caretaker is Korean. It’s almost diverse to the point of parody, like you’d pick the Scottish Highlands in the 19th century (or, indeed, the 21st) as this melting pot as a joke.
And it’s all for nought because the people who push for this stuff think it’s some kind of hate crime.
Post by: HardcoreRetro on February 18, 2023, 06:45:34 AM
She's voiced by a transwoman.
Post by: Tycoon Padre on February 18, 2023, 09:37:31 AM
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Puffin has hired sensitivity readers to rewrite chunks of the author’s text to make sure the books “can continue to be enjoyed by all today”, resulting in extensive changes across Dahl’s work.
Edits have been made to descriptions of characters’ physical appearances. The word “fat” has been cut from every new edition of relevant books, while the word “ugly” has also been culled, the Daily Telegraph reported.
Augustus Gloop in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is now described as “enormous”. In The Twits, Mrs Twit is no longer “ugly and beastly” but just “beastly”.
Hundreds of changes were made to the original text – and some passages not written by Dahl have been added. But the Roald Dahl Story Company said “it’s not unusual to review the language” during a new print run and any changes were “small and carefully considered”.
In The Witches, a paragraph explaining that witches are bald beneath their wigs ends with the new line: “There are plenty of other reasons why women might wear wigs and there is certainly nothing wrong with that.”
:dead
Hate to give clicks to culture war nonsense but that is just absolute vandalism :lol
Post by: HaughtyFrank on February 18, 2023, 09:53:38 AM
Post by: BIONIC on February 18, 2023, 10:40:27 AM
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In The Witches, a paragraph explaining that witches are bald beneath their wigs ends with the new line: “There are plenty of other reasons why women might wear wigs and there is certainly nothing wrong with that.”
:whatsthedeal
Post by: NekoFever on February 18, 2023, 11:54:25 AM
You'd think it would at least be about racism (wasn't he an antisemite?) and not editing cookie cutter shit
He was indeed a raging antisemite (actual quote: “Even a stinker like Hitler didn't just pick on them for no reason”) but it doesn’t seem to have bled into his books.
There’s an excellent documentary from a year or so back by the Jewish comedian David Baddiel that goes into it.
Post by: Nintex on February 18, 2023, 12:15:15 PM
Post by: Uncle on February 18, 2023, 12:49:36 PM
Post by: Potato on February 18, 2023, 01:35:50 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/feb/18/roald-dahl-books-rewritten-to-remove-language-deemed-offensiveWhy is it whenever one of these shitty lefty publications goes full culture war, they always disable comments?QuotePuffin has hired sensitivity readers to rewrite chunks of the author’s text to make sure the books “can continue to be enjoyed by all today”, resulting in extensive changes across Dahl’s work.
Edits have been made to descriptions of characters’ physical appearances. The word “fat” has been cut from every new edition of relevant books, while the word “ugly” has also been culled, the Daily Telegraph reported.
Augustus Gloop in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is now described as “enormous”. In The Twits, Mrs Twit is no longer “ugly and beastly” but just “beastly”.
Hundreds of changes were made to the original text – and some passages not written by Dahl have been added. But the Roald Dahl Story Company said “it’s not unusual to review the language” during a new print run and any changes were “small and carefully considered”.
In The Witches, a paragraph explaining that witches are bald beneath their wigs ends with the new line: “There are plenty of other reasons why women might wear wigs and there is certainly nothing wrong with that.”
:dead
Hate to give clicks to culture war nonsense but that is just absolute vandalism :lol
This article, every Kotaku article about Hogwarts Legacy, they all disable comments as if they can't even trust their readership to have the "correct" opinion. Slaps of the need for orthodoxy and conformity, which is ironic for so-called progressive leaning publications.
Post by: benjipwns on February 18, 2023, 05:35:23 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/feb/18/roald-dahl-books-rewritten-to-remove-language-deemed-offensive:ohyouQuoteEdits have been made to descriptions of characters’ physical appearances. The word “fat” has been cut from every new edition of relevant books ... Augustus Gloop in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is now described as “enormous”.
Post by: Potato on February 18, 2023, 05:59:12 PM
Can't wait to try the new "Enormous-free yoghurt"!https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/feb/18/roald-dahl-books-rewritten-to-remove-language-deemed-offensive:ohyouQuoteEdits have been made to descriptions of characters’ physical appearances. The word “fat” has been cut from every new edition of relevant books ... Augustus Gloop in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is now described as “enormous”.
Post by: Nintex on February 18, 2023, 07:44:54 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 18, 2023, 10:05:51 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpOSH5EWAAAdSpR?format=jpg)Saw a headline of a similar complaint from Till actors about the misogynoir of the Oscars for not giving them enough nominations. Like maybe you just suck as a diversity analyst/actor despite being Black women?
Post by: benjipwns on February 18, 2023, 10:17:36 PM
That classic satirical wit of The Daily Show is back baybee! (Check out Kase's cool ironic smirk in her profile picture.)
Post by: benjipwns on February 18, 2023, 10:40:35 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpM2eCdWIAMhg3b?format=jpg&name=small)
Post by: Uncle on February 18, 2023, 10:54:37 PM
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Hundreds of changes were made to the original text – and some passages not written by Dahl have been added. But the Roald Dahl Story Company said “it’s not unusual to review the language” during a new print run and any changes were “small and carefully considered”.
these are a shitload of major changes that entirely change the intent of the text
why the fuck should matilda read an entirely different book? maybe kipling suits her adventurous spirit better?
you could argue that if she enjoys "masculine" adventures that does more to break down the imaginary gender binary than forcing her to read books written by women
Post by: benjipwns on February 18, 2023, 11:04:43 PM
why the fuck should matilda read an entirely different book? maybe kipling suits her adventurous spirit better?I don't think that is why Kipling was dropped, though it may be why Austen was picked as the replacement. (I'd prefer to think it was for her being part of the Third Street Saints.) Think less gender reasons, more Nepenthe reasons.
you could argue that if she enjoys "masculine" adventures that does more to break down the imaginary gender binary than forcing her to read books written by women
Post by: Nintex on February 19, 2023, 06:44:47 AM
Just 'cutting a scene', 'rewriting a character' or 'modernizing dialogue'.
I just read that the "I see that the President equipped his daughter with ballistics too!" line is cut from the Resident Evil 4 remake and Luis demeanor has changed a great deal.
Despite the victory in the battle for Hogwarts it shows that the war against censorship is not yet won.
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on February 19, 2023, 07:11:57 AM
why the fuck should matilda read an entirely different book? maybe kipling suits her adventurous spirit better?I don't think that is why Kipling was dropped, though it may be why Austen was picked as the replacement. (I'd prefer to think it was for her being part of the Third Street Saints.) Think less gender reasons, more Nepenthe reasons.
you could argue that if she enjoys "masculine" adventures that does more to break down the imaginary gender binary than forcing her to read books written by women
Yeah, he's been 'controversial' for a long time being very much a product of Victorian British Empire (and wrote the ostensibly pro-colonisation poem White Mans Burden (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_White_Man%27s_Burden), which you don't have to read much beyond the surface level to see is actually a warning (to America) against getting into the empire building game as whatever objective benefits your empire might bring, you'll only be hated for it)
Post by: D3RANG3D on February 19, 2023, 02:50:41 PM
:mynicca
Post by: benjipwns on February 19, 2023, 04:47:57 PM
Quote from: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/19/world/europe/andrew-tate-uk-teachers.html
‘Brainwashing a Generation’: British Schools Combat Andrew Tate’s Views
Alarmed by an online personality’s popularity among their students, educators are mobilizing to combat the sexism he promotes.
As the seventh graders settled into a lecture hall at a school near London, the topic at hand was not human rights, historical events or different religions. “Andrew Tate,” a teacher said, pointing to a photograph projected on the wall. “What do you know about this man?”
Some boys giggled at the mention of Mr. Tate, a social media influencer famed for his misogynist comments. One boy said he liked him because “he has a strong masculinity,” fast cars and a fit body. The teacher projected some of Mr. Tate’s claims, among them that women who are raped should bear some responsibility. A few boys agreed.
“He is wrong,” said the teacher, Jake White. “That is a load of rubbish.”
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Believing that schools are a microcosm of society — and a preview of its future — educators said it was crucial to target Mr. Tate’s influence early. Since last fall, principals have sent letters to parents warning of his reach, and Britain’s education secretary has said that influencers like Mr. Tate could reverse the progress made in countering sexism.
British schools were already reckoning with what officials have recognized as an endemic culture of sexual harassment of students, leaving both young girls and boys feeling victimized and often unsure of the rules of interaction. Now, educators unexpectedly find themselves spending class time discussing Mr. Tate rather than their lessons.
“I am sad that I have taken up important curriculum time to talk about Andrew Tate,” said Chloe Stanton, an English teacher in East London. “But women have to fight enough in society without this type of attitude to deal with.”
In recent months, Ms. Stanton said, students have started bringing up Mr. Tate in class. They extol his wealth and fast cars. And for the first time in her 20 years of teaching, her 11- to 16-year-old students have challenged her for working and asked if she had her husband’s permission.
She has heard students talk casually about rape. “As the only woman in the room, I felt uncomfortable,” she said. Once, a student asked her if she was going to cry. At home, even her own three sons seemed to defend Mr. Tate.
“He is brainwashing a generation of boys, and it’s very frightening,” she said. “They seem to think he is right. He’s right because he’s rich.”
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At a school in Belfast, Northern Ireland, a line popularized by Mr. Tate to deride people who do not own luxury cars — “What color is your Bugatti?” — became widespread, said Charlotte Carson, a history and civics teacher.
At first, educators tried to avoid taking on Mr. Tate’s views directly, for fear of giving them a platform. But once they grasped his popularity, they decided that countering his influence took priority.
Though there are no official figures, teachers and administrators around the country said that school-based efforts had become quite common.
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The school where Mr. White teaches, the Epping St. John’s Church of England School, northeast of London, organized a weeklong series of assemblies in response to Mr. Tate’s arrest and his obvious hold on young people. Three male teachers led the sessions (“The boys look up to these guys,” said Mike Yerosimou, the principal), and although misogyny was not their field of expertise, they did research and prepared along with some female colleagues.
They asked students to discuss some of Mr. Tate’s quotes with a partner. One boy, who said he watched more than 10 of Mr. Tate’s videos every day
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Teachers believe it is their job in part to help students understand that despite Mr. Tate’s popularity, his views are outside the mainstream.
“We have to help educate them because the world has changed,” said Deana Puccio, a founder of the RAP Project. “The great thing about Andrew Tate is that we’re finally having the conversation.”
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“In this society, material success conveys a sort of being right,” said Michael Conroy, the founder of Men At Work, a group that trains teachers and youth workers to support young men. “And he is combining that with very dangerous messages.”No? Pretty sure that's an Aussie band?
Post by: benjipwns on February 19, 2023, 05:01:06 PM
https://twitter.com/Odyne_LaFee/status/1626592618271617026
https://twitter.com/Odyne_LaFee/status/1626593901418262529
Post by: team filler on February 19, 2023, 05:05:18 PM
:thinking
Post by: Nintex on February 19, 2023, 05:13:53 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 20, 2023, 01:20:23 AM
Quote from: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11764775/Yes-Minister-flagged-beleaguered-counter-terror-Prevent-scheme.html
The flagship Prevent scheme, recently the subject of a scathing audit, singled out comedies Yes Minister and The Thick Of It, the 1955 epic war film The Dam Busters, and even The Complete Works Of William Shakespeare as possible red flags of extremism.:ufup
It said the works of fiction were ‘key texts’ for ‘white nationalists/supremacists’.
A report by Prevent’s Research Information and Communications Unit (RICU) described how far-Right extremists promoted ‘reading lists’ on online bulletin boards.
Post by: zomgee on February 20, 2023, 12:32:43 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on February 20, 2023, 01:19:53 PM
https://twitter.com/david_j_roth/status/1627712564682424359
Post by: Uncle on February 20, 2023, 01:25:42 PM
any attempts at aligning it one way or the other result in making it globally less useful, because for example there's no way to distinguish an actual call for violence from a story about a villain who calls for violence (and loses)
the only way to filter it is pre- and post-processes on the input/output (i.e. user can never type slurs) and even THAT is defeatable by just speaking in code and forcing the AI to do the same (via ASCII etc.) or using word replacements
currently, it will always tell the user what they want to hear, ask it a negative leaning question and it will tend to reinforce that sentiment and vice versa
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on February 20, 2023, 01:27:36 PM
Post by: Nintex on February 20, 2023, 01:37:24 PM
And you guys all made fun of that ResetERA.com post about the sign of someone alt-right is they're reading books:I'm a big fan of House of Cards and Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy and I probably fit into the profile that most government cucks addicted to spreadsheets would consider "far right" so it checks out. :idontQuote from: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11764775/Yes-Minister-flagged-beleaguered-counter-terror-Prevent-scheme.htmlThe flagship Prevent scheme, recently the subject of a scathing audit, singled out comedies Yes Minister and The Thick Of It, the 1955 epic war film The Dam Busters, and even The Complete Works Of William Shakespeare as possible red flags of extremism.:ufup
It said the works of fiction were ‘key texts’ for ‘white nationalists/supremacists’.
A report by Prevent’s Research Information and Communications Unit (RICU) described how far-Right extremists promoted ‘reading lists’ on online bulletin boards.
They've missed a few though, like Monty Python and Blackadder.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on February 20, 2023, 11:16:40 PM
Post by: Potato on February 20, 2023, 11:23:47 PM
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As well as the cast, it's an all-queer crew who are well-practised at creating a safe space for participants to open up.:gladbron
In their first week, the group went to Taylor Square in Darlinghurst and were asked if they would have sex with passers-by; yes or no?
Imagine what would happen if an all straight cast of a stage show was taken to a public space to play FMK (minus the MK)?
Post by: Potato on February 21, 2023, 03:07:01 AM
Post by: Nintex on February 21, 2023, 04:40:59 AM
:wut
Post by: Uncle on February 21, 2023, 06:38:45 AM
https://youtu.be/U26-D-7Ey2w
this would be true if shitty things weren't actually happening
I don't necessarily care if one weirdo tweets that roald dahl's books need to be updated for a modern audience, I care when it actually happens
Post by: Himu on February 21, 2023, 08:51:19 AM
I wonder if we reached the point where people realize that diversity without rhyme or reason feels like a very superficial effort
https://twitter.com/gormdegarth/status/1626595123646857220
...or the author just argues it because it's more ammo against Rowling. Guess we'll see
I’m playing the game at the moment and it’s funny because you can see them trying really hard to be diverse and accommodating. From the start, the character creation gives you free rein to mix and match looks, voice and gender identity.
There are lots of Indian characters (as the review says), a prominent trans character, African exchange students, the flying instructor is Japanese, the caretaker is Korean. It’s almost diverse to the point of parody, like you’d pick the Scottish Highlands in the 19th century (or, indeed, the 21st) as this melting pot as a joke.
And it’s all for nought because the people who push for this stuff think it’s some kind of hate crime.
It's really interesting. The game seems to have the 90's style of diverse which wasn't tacked on and it's still isn't enough Likely because 90's diversity didn't hinge itself on the identity of the characters race or sex or sexuality but their character. To identitarians this is bad because they prioritize identity above all else.
Post by: Himu on February 21, 2023, 08:58:05 AM
At least people have started to wake up and notice the censorship. A lot has been changed unnoticed by localization and other methods in recent years.
Just 'cutting a scene', 'rewriting a character' or 'modernizing dialogue'.
I just read that the "I see that the President equipped his daughter with ballistics too!" line is cut from the Resident Evil 4 remake and Luis demeanor has changed a great deal.
Despite the victory in the battle for Hogwarts it shows that the war against censorship is not yet won.
This isn't censorship. I told you weeks ago given the tone of RE2make they'd likely change the tone of RE4make which means making it more serious, more horror and less cheesy lines. The ballistics line is one of those cheesy lines.
(https://i.imgur.com/bG7i2UZ.png)
That classic satirical wit of The Daily Show is back baybee! (Check out Kase's cool ironic smirk in her profile picture.)
It's her show but I have to say Sarah Silverman's brand of humor is precisely what would get me to watch Daily Show daily again if she went after both parties in the way Stewart used to..
Post by: Nintex on February 21, 2023, 06:50:32 PM
If you don't think Kamala Harris is doing a great job as Vice President than you are a national security threat.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on February 21, 2023, 07:10:56 PM
https://twitter.com/TIME/status/1628126915818037248 (https://twitter.com/TIME/status/1628126915818037248)
If you don't think Kamala Harris is doing a great job as Vice President than you are a national security threat.
Himu on watch
Again
Post by: benjipwns on February 22, 2023, 02:09:28 AM
twitter.com/TIME/status/1628126915818037248
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In the spring of 2021, Annalena Baerbock became an unlikely candidate to lead Germany’s chancellery election after experiencing a huge surge in popularity ahead of the vote held in September of that year. But after she pledged to block a gas pipeline project between Russia and Europe, the Greens party candidate became the target of a vicious campaign on social media.
...
Her high approval rate quickly plummeted and Baerbock eventually lost the election, coming in third place.
Studies conducted by the German Marshall Fund and the Institute of Strategic Dialogue eventually found that Baerbock had been hit by an especially high amount of disinformation from Russian state-backed sources. Bild, a tabloid in Germany, wrote that NATO specialists even believed that “Moscow [had] pressed the anti-Baerbock button.”
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But Lucina Di Meco, co-founder of the online campaign, “#ShePersisted,” said that Baerbock’s example also revealed two other phenomena at play, which she has written about in a new study called “Monetizing Misogyny.” Not only does gendered disinformation lead to the backsliding of women’s rights and democracy as a whole, but the study also found that gendered disinformation becomes a national security threat when foreign actors use it to exploit divisions in society.
Although the term “gendered disinformation” doesn’t have a standard definition, Di Meco, a leading gender equality expert, has described it as the spread of deceptive or inaccurate information or images used against women in public life. A study conducted by Demos in 2020 noted that gendered disinformation isn’t just false information—it also uses “highly emotive and value-laden content to try to undermine its targets,” and ”seeks impact primarily at the political level, though can also cause serious harm at the personal level,”
Quote from: the "study", https://she-persisted.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/ShePersisted_MonetizingMisogyny.pdf
Methodology:science
These findings are a direct result of the combination of desk research, some very targeted social media monitoring of posts including the names of women leaders on Twitter and Facebook, and numerous interviews with local women’s rights activists, women in politics and digital monitoring experts.
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Importantly, this study also builds on learnings from #ShePersisted’s previous work, including the many digital resilience workshops, trainings and indepth conversations carried out over the last three years with dozens of brave women in politics and political activists from over 50 countries around the globe.5 Despite the hate campaigns, online abuse and threats, they persist and refuse to be silenced. This study - and our work - finds inspiration in their courage, resilience and commitment to protect democracy.
Just to be clear, there are absolutely zero pieces of data or any figures offered in this "study" and the bulk of the citations are self-referential or nonsense. Despite the news articles focus on these locations, the "study" does not contain any case studies from the U.S., U.K. or Germany.
Post by: BIONIC on February 22, 2023, 08:13:28 PM
:hesright
Post by: HaughtyFrank on February 24, 2023, 01:21:19 PM
https://twitter.com/ZeroSuitCamus/status/1629123893590982656
Post by: Nintex on February 24, 2023, 02:00:27 PM
This one chick, Melanie Mac had all these Tweets about eating butter and egg shit and then she ended up in the ER dehydrated because she forgot to drink water for 3 days. :dead
They also seem to forget the part that food has to be tasty and well prepared and you can't just stuff your face full of meat.
Say what you will about Rogan, when he talks about seasoning his Elk meat and throwing it on the grill with some veggies on the side it sounds like he actually knows what he's doing.
Now Jorp air frying his steak is an entirely different matter :snoop
Post by: Potato on February 24, 2023, 04:09:33 PM
How did meat eaters become worse than vegansIsn't the whole "carnivore" thing meant to be about going all primal and shit? So, why does that guy sound like a little bitch?
https://twitter.com/ZeroSuitCamus/status/1629123893590982656
Post by: Nintex on February 25, 2023, 06:22:50 AM
Post by: BIONIC on February 25, 2023, 06:34:34 AM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 25, 2023, 08:29:38 AM
How did meat eaters become worse than vegansIsn't the whole "carnivore" thing meant to be about going all primal and shit? So, why does that guy sound like a little bitch?
https://twitter.com/ZeroSuitCamus/status/1629123893590982656
Because of all the soy he used to consume :hulk
Post by: Nintex on February 25, 2023, 08:44:29 AM
:lol
Post by: team filler on February 25, 2023, 12:23:30 PM
:kermit
Post by: Himu on February 25, 2023, 02:17:00 PM
Post by: Potato on February 25, 2023, 03:18:15 PM
A dude I know posts anti vegan memes on fb. They're funny. But one time it was so anti vegetable it bordered on ridiculous. I said "vegetables are good. It's all about balance, man" and he told me how vegetables are toxic and unhealthy and all you need is meat and eggs to live. Guy just had a kid and I pray he doesn't die from a heart attack before 40.I'd be more concerned about the kid being fed some stupid diet that harms their development. Like those morons that insist their dogs are vegan.
Post by: Himu on February 25, 2023, 05:17:54 PM
A dude I know posts anti vegan memes on fb. They're funny. But one time it was so anti vegetable it bordered on ridiculous. I said "vegetables are good. It's all about balance, man" and he told me how vegetables are toxic and unhealthy and all you need is meat and eggs to live. Guy just had a kid and I pray he doesn't die from a heart attack before 40.I'd be more concerned about the kid being fed some stupid diet that harms their development. Like those morons that insist their dogs are vegan.
https://youtu.be/6sM8pDH-HMc
Post by: Potato on February 25, 2023, 05:28:31 PM
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A Sydney couple who had their three children taken away from them when police found their 20-month-old girl was severely malnourished and suffering from rickets after being fed on a strict vegan diet have avoided jail over the neglect of their child.
Post by: Himu on February 25, 2023, 06:27:49 PM
:brazilcry
Post by: Uncle on February 25, 2023, 07:33:07 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 26, 2023, 02:12:40 AM
https://twitter.com/jeffreyatucker/status/1627852380346646530
Post by: Potato on February 26, 2023, 02:41:43 AM
https://www.smh.com.au/culture/books/roald-dahl-books-rush-to-top-of-australian-bestseller-lists-ahead-of-edits-20230225-p5cnk8.html (https://www.smh.com.au/culture/books/roald-dahl-books-rush-to-top-of-australian-bestseller-lists-ahead-of-edits-20230225-p5cnk8.html)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 26, 2023, 01:59:55 PM
Interesting argument but barely anyone is reading books these days, I'm not sure the extra effort of editing them is worth it.
Post by: team filler on February 26, 2023, 02:18:18 PM
Looks like Penguin Random House's marketing strategy workedguns and ammo manufacturers were doing something similar through obummer's entire presidency. I remember the goofy rednecks in my platoon always rushing out to buy stuff they said was going to be banned or whatever and it never happened. then trumpy took over and banned bump stocks :trumps
https://www.smh.com.au/culture/books/roald-dahl-books-rush-to-top-of-australian-bestseller-lists-ahead-of-edits-20230225-p5cnk8.html (https://www.smh.com.au/culture/books/roald-dahl-books-rush-to-top-of-australian-bestseller-lists-ahead-of-edits-20230225-p5cnk8.html)
Post by: team filler on February 26, 2023, 04:32:49 PM
:hesright
Post by: Potato on February 26, 2023, 05:28:28 PM
I remember those days. It was so difficult to get ammunition here, even for popular calibres like .243, .270 and .308, because the crazy rednecks were buying everything that could be produced.Looks like Penguin Random House's marketing strategy workedguns and ammo manufacturers were doing something similar through obummer's entire presidency. I remember the goofy rednecks in my platoon always rushing out to buy stuff they said was going to be banned or whatever and it never happened. then trumpy took over and banned bump stocks :trumps
https://www.smh.com.au/culture/books/roald-dahl-books-rush-to-top-of-australian-bestseller-lists-ahead-of-edits-20230225-p5cnk8.html (https://www.smh.com.au/culture/books/roald-dahl-books-rush-to-top-of-australian-bestseller-lists-ahead-of-edits-20230225-p5cnk8.html)
Post by: team filler on February 26, 2023, 07:25:53 PM
thought guns were illegal in straya to begin with, mate :auscryI remember those days. It was so difficult to get ammunition here, even for popular calibres like .243, .270 and .308, because the crazy rednecks were buying everything that could be produced.Looks like Penguin Random House's marketing strategy workedguns and ammo manufacturers were doing something similar through obummer's entire presidency. I remember the goofy rednecks in my platoon always rushing out to buy stuff they said was going to be banned or whatever and it never happened. then trumpy took over and banned bump stocks :trumps
https://www.smh.com.au/culture/books/roald-dahl-books-rush-to-top-of-australian-bestseller-lists-ahead-of-edits-20230225-p5cnk8.html (https://www.smh.com.au/culture/books/roald-dahl-books-rush-to-top-of-australian-bestseller-lists-ahead-of-edits-20230225-p5cnk8.html)
Post by: BIONIC on February 26, 2023, 07:31:01 PM
Post by: Potato on February 26, 2023, 07:56:57 PM
Only semi-autos and pump actions are banned. Handguns can only be used at pistol clubs.thought guns were illegal in straya to begin with, mate :auscryI remember those days. It was so difficult to get ammunition here, even for popular calibres like .243, .270 and .308, because the crazy rednecks were buying everything that could be produced.Looks like Penguin Random House's marketing strategy workedguns and ammo manufacturers were doing something similar through obummer's entire presidency. I remember the goofy rednecks in my platoon always rushing out to buy stuff they said was going to be banned or whatever and it never happened. then trumpy took over and banned bump stocks :trumps
https://www.smh.com.au/culture/books/roald-dahl-books-rush-to-top-of-australian-bestseller-lists-ahead-of-edits-20230225-p5cnk8.html (https://www.smh.com.au/culture/books/roald-dahl-books-rush-to-top-of-australian-bestseller-lists-ahead-of-edits-20230225-p5cnk8.html)
Post by: Potato on February 26, 2023, 08:55:30 PM
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-02-27/harry-styles-concerts-marvel-stadium-accessibility-chloe-hayden/102025124 (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-02-27/harry-styles-concerts-marvel-stadium-accessibility-chloe-hayden/102025124)
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Heartbreak High actor Chloé Hayden has accused staff at Melbourne's Docklands Stadium of "ableism and discrimination" during the Harry Styles concerts at the weekend.
Posting to social media, Hayden told Instagram followers she had been made aware of "countless incidents" involving "both neurodivergent and physically disabled folk" at the stadium.
It comes after Hayden told followers stadium staff had made her feel unwelcome when she attempted to access the venue's sensory room.
The 25-year-old, who is autistic and has ADHD, said she later received more than 50 messages from people "who were denied access and support, humiliated and hurt thanks to Marvel Stadium's ableism and discrimination".
The actor said she had compiled various accounts of "poor experiences" during the concerts in an email to send to the stadium's management, with the stories leaving her "beyond devastated".
"[The incidents include stadium staff] telling disabled people they would have to leave because they didn't have any accessible areas, disabled lifts being broken, autistic people being forced to show diagnostic papers and being laughed at for asking for help," she said on Instagram.
"Enough is goddamn enough.
"I am doing everything in my power to fix this. Emails are being sent, conversations are being had, I am ensuring change is being made."
"I am so gutted that we still have to fight this fight. That our right to exist in public spaces is still up for debate.
"Change needs to happen and it needs to happen now."
Docklands Stadium's sensory room, which is located on the third floor, includes a bubble wall, activity panels, weighted lap pads, fidget tools and bags with noise-cancelling headphones.
The venue's website says the room can be used without reservation and resources can be hired free of charge.
"Marvel Stadium's vision of creating an accessible and inclusive environment for all its fans has reached new heights with the creation and development of Melbourne's first stadium sensory room," the website says.
It says staff have been trained by "leading medical professionals on how to recognise those guests and fans with sensory needs and how to handle a sensory overload situation".
'No assistance for people too fat to walk'
Hayden asked Instagram followers who went to the stadium to share their experiences with her.
One follower, who described having a panic attack and "then a full blown meltdown", said she asked a staff member at the stadium where the sensory room was located.
"The staff member just looked me up and down and simply said, 'That's not a real panic attack,'" the Instagram user said.
Another, who described themselves as "physically disabled", said they asked a staff member if there was lift access from the third level of the stadium.
"I can't walk for long periods and the queues to the lift were insane," the social media user said.
"I was rudely told that if I was unable to walk down the ramp then I shouldn't have got tickets and that they had no assistance available for people 'too fat to walk'.
"It was appalling just how insensitive the staff were."
"Staff not knowing where accessible bathrooms are and sending us on a wild goose chase!! Not good enough," another person posted.
Stadium apologies for 'hurt and inconvenience' ahead of meeting with actress
Posting to Twitter, Hayden told followers staff at the stadium had arranged to meet with her on Monday.
In a statement, stadium spokesperson Jay Allen apologised for the "hurt and inconvenience" and said he was "extremely disappointed" to hear fans could not access the sensory room.
"Staff immediately made contact and have organised a time to openly discuss and better understand what happened so we can rectify it and make any appropriate changes to ensure it doesn't happen again," he said.
Mr Allen said the stadium is proud to provide a "safe and welcoming space for ... the many people [who] accessed it over the weekend during both concerts".
"While we sometimes experience capacity issues at major events, we still aim to provide a positive and caring experience for all patrons needing to find a quiet place."
Jim Mullan, CEO of Amaze, a peak body for Victorians with autism, told ABC Radio Melbourne preventing Hayden from accessing the sensory room showed a lack of understanding of neurodivergent conditions.
"It's absolutely essential that the people minding these facilities have an awareness and understanding of autism and can empathise and can understand that," he said.
"This is not people just looking to get out the way of the concert, this is an essential part of the provision there at Marvel Stadium."
Hayden rose to prominence playing autistic character "Quinni" Gallagher-Jones in Australian Netflix series Heartbreak High.
Some 100,000 fans packed the stadium for the British singer's two performances across Friday and Saturday night.
https://twitter.com/chloeshayden/status/1629748664217534464? (https://twitter.com/chloeshayden/status/1629748664217534464?)
LOL, imagine expecting 8000+ spaces in a sensory room in a 50,000 seat stadium.
Fuck off idiots. The rest of the world is not obliged to cater to your self-diagnosed bullshit.
Don't go to concerts at big stadiums if you can't handle crowded places full of noise.
Indulging these people is the root of the problem.
Post by: benjipwns on February 26, 2023, 09:39:49 PM
Quote from: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-64757799
Four pupils have been suspended from a West Yorkshire secondary school after a copy of the Quran was damaged by students.(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fp4rBzRacAEr0Tv?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Wednesday's incident at Wakefield's Kettlethorpe High School happened when a copy of the Islamic text was brought in by a Year 10 pupil.
Head teacher Tudor Griffiths said the book remained intact and there was "no malicious intent" from those involved.
...
While at the school it sustained a slight tear to the cover and smears of dirt on some of the pages.
DAMAGED QURAN INSIDE (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fp53AD-aUAA8zWg?format=jpg&name=small)
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Post by: Potato on February 26, 2023, 09:47:41 PM
What's he going to do? Storm the school and start beheading people?Quote from: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-64757799Four pupils have been suspended from a West Yorkshire secondary school after a copy of the Quran was damaged by students.(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fp4rBzRacAEr0Tv?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Wednesday's incident at Wakefield's Kettlethorpe High School happened when a copy of the Islamic text was brought in by a Year 10 pupil.
Head teacher Tudor Griffiths said the book remained intact and there was "no malicious intent" from those involved.
...
While at the school it sustained a slight tear to the cover and smears of dirt on some of the pages.(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fp53AD-aUAA8zWg?format=jpg&name=small)
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Post by: benjipwns on February 26, 2023, 11:06:06 PM
Quote from: https://www.foxnews.com/media/teacher-presents-kids-nintendo-characters-sexual-gender-identities-peach-massive-lesbian
At an after-school program for a DOE school's Gay Straight Alliance club, Elliott went through a series of Nintendo characters and ascribed to the fictional video game characters a variety of sexuality and gender identities.:miyamoto
"So the GSA for the school that I teach at decided to do a PowerPoint night, and I decided to combine two of my favorite interests into one. This is dubiously assigning genders and sexualities to classic Nintendo characters," she said.
"Yoshi is a trans man. He is just living his best life with Berto, and his top surgery turned out amazing. No scars whatsoever. We love that for him," she said. "Of course, that means that Berto is an ace trans girl."
"No surprises with Peach. She is a massive cis lesbian… Whenever she's around Daisy, she just completely forgets how to speak."
"We've got Daisy [who is] hella bisexual, polyamorous... and she will ask your girlfriend out right in front of you."
"Mario… came out so long ago that most people forgot and he probably marched at Stonewall and he low-key says some transphobic stuff, but he means well."
"Next up is Luigi. Luigi is totally a demisexual dude, but he just calls himself queer because it's like too confusing. He has big bi-wife energy. Trans? Trans. And it's probably bisexual, but like, idoesn't think about it too much because if you don't think about it, it's not a problem," the teacher said.
"Toad is obviously a pre-transitioned trans girl. She already has a whole new wardrobe with thigh highs and skirts for when she comes out."
Elliott told Fox News Digital that "the slides you mentioned were created in jest for the sake of humor. It's also strange to point out that they have genders and sexualities, as being a cisgender heterosexual man is in fact a gender and sexual orientation."
She continued, "As part of my DOE employment, despite being primarily hired as an English Teacher, teaching our established and vetted sex education curriculum was not only something I was hired for, it was something I was trained and qualified in."
...
"And the fact of the matter is, this is not a conversation that conservatives are having at all. They've decided… like, you can't do this at all, there's no place for it. And that just shows such a lack of thought and care. They're not understanding of the people. They're children as people and where they're at."
Post by: HaughtyFrank on February 26, 2023, 11:47:04 PM
Post by: Polident Hive on February 26, 2023, 11:56:58 PM
Post by: Potato on February 27, 2023, 02:38:52 AM
https://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/article/lateral-violence-explained-how-to-deal-with-its-many-forms/f6s54whcp (https://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/article/lateral-violence-explained-how-to-deal-with-its-many-forms/f6s54whcp)
What is lateral violence and how do we deal with its many forms?
Experts in the field identify that colonial violence is at the root of it all. Let's have a yarn about it.
It’s something that can affect our people deeply. From their mental and physical well-being to their sense of self, spirit and identity.
Lateral violence is commonly described as infighting between people from the same group who have historically been oppressed.
Paakantji woman, Dr Theoni Whyman, has investigated lateral violence and its effects throughout her academic career.
"It can look like gossiping, or sabotaging or undermining somebody else's work," she said.
"In my research, another kind of way that people identify that it shows up is when other Indigenous people are kind of tearing somebody else's Indigenous identity down."
Other examples can include both verbal and non-verbal gestures, spreading rumours, shaming, backstabbing, organisational conflict, isolation and exclusion, as well as physical violence and bullying online.
Trying to survive colonial violence
For the Head of the Department of Indigenous studies at Macquarie University, Professor Bronwyn Carlson, the spotlight is put on the wrong party.
"Instead of turning on and looking at other Aboriginal people and bringing each other down, we need to turn it back on the government, and remember who the actual oppressor here is and who's making these things possible for us to be denied,” she said.
"Lateral violence is us trying to survive colonial violence.”
Dr Whyman elaborates.
"The settler colonisers that came here enforced their idea of who is 'a true Indigenous person' was and then marked everybody against that," she said.
"They marked mob as a half-blood or a quantum or you know, you had one-sixteenth heritage and they kind of defined who an Indigenous person was so that they could reduce us.
You are not seen as Indigenous enough
"[They] reinforced this idea that there we're less Indigenous people and that we were a dying race. We've kind of adopted those settler colonial ideas, probably unknowingly, of who an Indigenous person is.
“Some of the systems that settler colonisers set up here, like rounding us up and putting us on missions, and restricting our access to resources. And then telling people that they're not truly Indigenous if they didn't fit their stereotype of who an Indigenous person is."
"That's where the names come from like city black or coconut, you are not seen as Indigenous enough."
Post by: Himu on February 27, 2023, 04:11:53 AM
Post by: Nintex on February 27, 2023, 05:14:06 AM
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verbal and non-verbal gestures, spreading rumours, shaming, backstabbing, organisational conflict, isolation and exclusion, as well asphysical violenceand bullying online.
:trumps
Post by: Nintex on February 27, 2023, 05:18:44 AM
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Mr Akbar said he had been told the book had been taken to school as a dare by a pupil who lost while playing a Call of Duty videogame with other students.Press F for the Quran :salute
Post by: Nintex on February 27, 2023, 01:26:00 PM
Post by: james on February 27, 2023, 01:56:27 PM
Edit: An inheritance/trust fund is a reasonable substitution
Post by: Tuckers Law on February 27, 2023, 01:59:28 PM
https://twitter.com/JebraFaushay/status/1630036432143147008 (https://twitter.com/JebraFaushay/status/1630036432143147008)
Triggered something in me for sure.
:whew
Post by: Tuckers Law on February 27, 2023, 02:01:07 PM
Quote from: https://www.foxnews.com/media/teacher-presents-kids-nintendo-characters-sexual-gender-identities-peach-massive-lesbian"They're children as people and where they're at."
:huh
Post by: Himu on February 27, 2023, 03:54:16 PM
https://twitter.com/JebraFaushay/status/1630036432143147008 (https://twitter.com/JebraFaushay/status/1630036432143147008)
MY HEART
Whoever her husband is he's a lucky man. That's the dream and my goal: to have a nice housewife.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 27, 2023, 04:31:24 PM
https://twitter.com/JebraFaushay/status/1630036432143147008 (https://twitter.com/JebraFaushay/status/1630036432143147008)No one is triggered by house wives. This is just weirdo fetish shit for dudes, more aggrievement for the aggrievement gods. If you want to be a house wife, do it. If you want to work, do it. Nobody cares.
Goes back to the performative outrage thing. It's not good enough that I'm a manly masculine man, I've got to eat raw meat and say vegetables are poison. It's not good enough that I'm a sexually free woman with agency, I've got to twerk at a funeral. It's not good enough that I'm against liberal politics in movies, I've got to put conservative politics in shitty direct-to-DVD movies. :lol
Post by: Himu on February 27, 2023, 05:07:58 PM
Post by: Himu on February 27, 2023, 05:35:26 PM
A dude I know posts anti vegan memes on fb. They're funny. But one time it was so anti vegetable it bordered on ridiculous. I said "vegetables are good. It's all about balance, man" and he told me how vegetables are toxic and unhealthy and all you need is meat and eggs to live. Guy just had a kid and I pray he doesn't die from a heart attack before 40.
He's gone full Carnivore Diet and now he's posting memes from Carnivore Dad.
(https://i.imgur.com/ckbpsYm.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/fdYiCvb.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Q6hbjHh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/9SQHIcl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/J2fAsz2.jpg)
I don't get it. Texans and the south eat wayyyyy too much meat and their bodies pay for it. The rice and beans meme in particular is preposterous. No one in their right mind needs to be eat 3 cups of rice and beans a day. You aren't a prime time body builder. I eat rice and beans damn near daily and it's great. Low cal, high in fiber, and keeps you full the entire night.
In their attempts to own the vegans, a minority of the population, they forget that every day normal people eat vegetables and rice and stuff. All this because of Beyond Burgers, which are just an amalgamation of veggie burgers, something that has existed our entire effing lives.
Texans and southerners love meat and they're fat af. Just because you eat meat doesn't mean you're healthy. What is this?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 27, 2023, 05:48:06 PM
Imagine the most masculine man circa...1990. When he's outside using the grill, he's prob gonna have some corn or asparagus on there.
This is what happens when there aren't fathers in the home...
Post by: james on February 27, 2023, 05:53:55 PM
Can someone explain the "vegetables are toxic/poison" thing? I always feel my healthiest when I eat balanced diet high in veggies and a little meat here and there. I don't get it. Are these people that didn't accept that spinach is delicious or something? Stuff is straight delicious.
Its the same reactionary culture warrior nonsense.
Being vegetarian 40 years ago was associated with left-wing anti-war hippies who didnt want people dying and didnt want animals dying.
Today it's associated with caring about the climate when its pointed out how bad the cattle industry is for the forests (1st cause of amazon deforestation) plus the warming effects of methane.
Instead of being fucking normal and saying "I should cut back a little" or even being an asshole and saying "I dont care and wont change a bit" they go full distinguished mentally-challenged fellow and say "I will ever eat a vegetable again to spite you"
Meanwhile 95% of us enjoy a wide variety of food. Oven roasted carrots with sea salt is delicious. Vegetable empanadas are delicious. Stir fried rice with veggies are delicious.
If you dont like baked potatoes and corn on the cob you should probably simply kill yourself
Post by: Potato on February 27, 2023, 05:55:41 PM
Can someone explain the "vegetables are toxic/poison" thing? I always feel my healthiest when I eat balanced diet high in veggies and a little meat here and there. I don't get it. Are these people that didn't accept that spinach is delicious or something? Stuff is straight delicious.I think it's just a natural evolution of the idiots who say shit like, "You're a vegan? Ok, I'm going to eat TWO steaks then!" and "You are boycotting Hogwarts Legacy? I'll buy two copies then!"
Post by: Himu on February 27, 2023, 05:58:01 PM
Post by: james on February 27, 2023, 06:05:09 PM
But by doing this you give the vegans power. If you didn't want to give the vegans power you would say "fuck you, I'm not going to change my diet a bit." Instead you're changing your diet to spite them and it puts more attention on veganism.
Why do you think about it as a power thing at all?
Post by: Nintex on February 27, 2023, 06:12:29 PM
That's why I dislike frozen discount meat too. Sure, it gives the poor people something to eat but it's just a waste of good meat. :-\
The butter thing is even weirder, butter is something you add to bread or you use to prepare other foods. It's not something you stuff in your face.
I think it's really a matter of people that have ordered McDonalds and Pizza's all their life suddenly turning chad carnivore and having no fucking clue how to prepare food.
Which, honestly, the cavemen could do. Steak can be tricky sure, but in general preparing or cooking simple meals isn't that hard, especially with modern kitchen gear.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 27, 2023, 06:13:40 PM
https://compactmag.com/article/wokeness-is-here-to-stay
The king of communists argues identity politics is preventing the lower class from organizing. :doge
Post by: Himu on February 27, 2023, 06:13:58 PM
But by doing this you give the vegans power. If you didn't want to give the vegans power you would say "fuck you, I'm not going to change my diet a bit." Instead you're changing your diet to spite them and it puts more attention on veganism.
Why do you think about it as a power thing at all?
Because the carnivore people clearly do. They think vegans are taking over the world and trying to make us all vegans and outlaw meat.
Could you imagine living on this diet? Oops! Can't eat Chinese because they mixed broccoli with my beef. Oops! Can't eat Mexican because the taco is on a corn tortilla.
Post by: Himu on February 27, 2023, 06:32:17 PM
https://youtu.be/WSI_QvlYyWE
Post by: benjipwns on February 27, 2023, 09:18:11 PM
New idiocy alert in the annals of how to blame others for your own problemsI really don't understand how these people don't realize that creating a fictitious past for people is erasing them.
https://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/article/lateral-violence-explained-how-to-deal-with-its-many-forms/f6s54whcp (https://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/article/lateral-violence-explained-how-to-deal-with-its-many-forms/f6s54whcp)QuoteWhat is lateral violence and how do we deal with its many forms?
Experts in the field identify that colonial violence is at the root of it all. Let's have a yarn about it.
It’s something that can affect our people deeply. From their mental and physical well-being to their sense of self, spirit and identity.
Lateral violence is commonly described as infighting between people from the same group who have historically been oppressed.
Paakantji woman, Dr Theoni Whyman, has investigated lateral violence and its effects throughout her academic career.
"It can look like gossiping, or sabotaging or undermining somebody else's work," she said.
"In my research, another kind of way that people identify that it shows up is when other Indigenous people are kind of tearing somebody else's Indigenous identity down."
Other examples can include both verbal and non-verbal gestures, spreading rumours, shaming, backstabbing, organisational conflict, isolation and exclusion, as well as physical violence and bullying online.
Trying to survive colonial violence
For the Head of the Department of Indigenous studies at Macquarie University, Professor Bronwyn Carlson, the spotlight is put on the wrong party.
"Instead of turning on and looking at other Aboriginal people and bringing each other down, we need to turn it back on the government, and remember who the actual oppressor here is and who's making these things possible for us to be denied,” she said.
"Lateral violence is us trying to survive colonial violence.”
Dr Whyman elaborates.
"The settler colonisers that came here enforced their idea of who is 'a true Indigenous person' was and then marked everybody against that," she said.
Post by: Potato on February 27, 2023, 10:07:49 PM
Meanwhile, the biggest cause of actual violence (bilateral? vertical? horizontal?) against Aboriginal people in Australia is other Aboriginal people...most often their own family members.New idiocy alert in the annals of how to blame others for your own problemsI really don't understand how these people don't realize that creating a fictitious past for people is erasing them.
https://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/article/lateral-violence-explained-how-to-deal-with-its-many-forms/f6s54whcp (https://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/article/lateral-violence-explained-how-to-deal-with-its-many-forms/f6s54whcp)QuoteWhat is lateral violence and how do we deal with its many forms?
Experts in the field identify that colonial violence is at the root of it all. Let's have a yarn about it.
It’s something that can affect our people deeply. From their mental and physical well-being to their sense of self, spirit and identity.
Lateral violence is commonly described as infighting between people from the same group who have historically been oppressed.
Paakantji woman, Dr Theoni Whyman, has investigated lateral violence and its effects throughout her academic career.
"It can look like gossiping, or sabotaging or undermining somebody else's work," she said.
"In my research, another kind of way that people identify that it shows up is when other Indigenous people are kind of tearing somebody else's Indigenous identity down."
Other examples can include both verbal and non-verbal gestures, spreading rumours, shaming, backstabbing, organisational conflict, isolation and exclusion, as well as physical violence and bullying online.
Trying to survive colonial violence
For the Head of the Department of Indigenous studies at Macquarie University, Professor Bronwyn Carlson, the spotlight is put on the wrong party.
"Instead of turning on and looking at other Aboriginal people and bringing each other down, we need to turn it back on the government, and remember who the actual oppressor here is and who's making these things possible for us to be denied,” she said.
"Lateral violence is us trying to survive colonial violence.”
Dr Whyman elaborates.
"The settler colonisers that came here enforced their idea of who is 'a true Indigenous person' was and then marked everybody against that," she said.
What we've done to the indigenous people of Australia is fucking disgraceful, but blaming white people for everything has not solved anything and has made things worse for them individually and collectively.
Edit: One of our recent such erasures is claiming that, what has clearly been one of the most successful hunter gatherer societies ever to live on the earth, with a complex history, mythology and natural knowledge of the environment, was actually a civilization that lived in large permanent cities with cultivation.
This is ostensibly claimed by a man who has tenuous claims to Aboriginality himself and next to no archaeological or anthropological evidence whatsoever.
However, to even argue against these academically dubious claims, which would most likely result in a failing grade if submitted by an undergraduate, risks social and academic exclusion and ostracism.
Post by: Potato on February 27, 2023, 10:10:05 PM
For BenjiStill reading this one, but I do love Zizek's way with cutting an arguement down.
https://compactmag.com/article/wokeness-is-here-to-stay (https://compactmag.com/article/wokeness-is-here-to-stay)
The king of communists argues identity politics is preventing the lower class from organizing. :doge
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Psychoanalysis has a clear answer to this paradox: the notion of superego. Superego is a cruel and insatiable agency that bombards me with impossible demands and mocks my failed attempts to meet them. It is the agency in the eyes of which I am all the more guilty, the more I try to suppress my “sinful” strivings. The old cynical Stalinist motto about the accused at the show trials who professed their innocence—“The more they are innocent, the more they deserve to be shot”—is superego at its purest.
“You must strive eternally to understand the experiences of black people / You can never understand what it is to be black, and if you think you do, you’re a racist.” In short, you must but you can’t, because you shouldn’t—the greatest sin is to do what you should strive for…This convoluted structure of an injunction, which is fulfilled when we fail to meet it, accounts for the paradox of superego. As Freud noted, the more we obey the superego commandment, the guiltier we feel. The paradox also holds in the Lacanian reading of the superego as an injunction to enjoy: Enjoyment is an impossible-real, we can’t ever fully attain it, and this failure makes us feel guilty.
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This superego structure, then, explains how and why, in the Telluride case, the majority and the institutional big Other were both terrorized by the woke minority. All of them were exposed to a superego pressure that is far from an authentic call to justice. The black woke elite is fully aware it won’t achieve its declared goal of diminishing black oppression—and it doesn’t even want that. What they really want is what they are achieving: a position of moral authority from which they may terrorize all others, without effectively changing social relations of domination.
Please post this on Resetera. I NEED to see nep nep seethe and declare Zizek persona non grata...again
Post by: benjipwns on February 27, 2023, 10:21:11 PM
There's a lot of Marxists who make the same argument about this and they have going back to at least the 1960's (there's earlier currents but they were more specific) because Marxism doesn't allow you to divide the classes nor set them against each other internally. Marxism specifically denies that there are any disputes within classes, everyone within a class operates purely to advance that class even if they think they are doing something else. Identity politics, cultural Marxism, literary theory, wokeness, etc. all reject this theory and instead believe that everything is a war of everyone against everyone which isn't really Marxist even though they frame all of it within a Marxist lens of saying there's only two classes: oppressor and oppressed. About the only thing they all agree on is that a white cishet male is always an oppressor.
The main power of Marxism within these groups is that when, inevitably, there's conflict among them they resolve it by appealing to solidarity against the real problem that causes and is the only source of all problems among the oppressed: capitalism.
Their solution of course is to establish a system in which everything literally is decided solely by political power and there's no alternatives.
Post by: benjipwns on February 27, 2023, 10:28:56 PM
No one is triggered by house wives. This is just weirdo fetish shit for dudes, more aggrievement for the aggrievement gods. If you want to be a house wife, do it. If you want to work, do it. Nobody cares.https://twitter.com/allahliker/status/1630290211912531978
https://twitter.com/allahliker/status/1630290767590699009
Post by: benjipwns on February 27, 2023, 10:30:04 PM
https://twitter.com/MichaelJNoir/status/1630400417338396673
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 27, 2023, 10:34:53 PM
Zizek has been against identity politics for a while, he's always been a decent critic of the left. He's less good at critiquing things he doesn't understand.
Like economics :doge
Post by: benjipwns on February 27, 2023, 11:25:15 PM
I haven't read it in over a decade but I remember Violence having a large number of examples where he was describing things from other fields or media that were not correct at all. :lolZizek has been against identity politics for a while, he's always been a decent critic of the left. He's less good at critiquing things he doesn't understand.
Like economics :doge
Post by: james on March 01, 2023, 10:47:54 AM
Post by: team filler on March 01, 2023, 04:39:29 PM
Can someone explain the "vegetables are toxic/poison" thing? I always feel my healthiest when I eat balanced diet high in veggies and a little meat here and there. I don't get it. Are these people that didn't accept that spinach is delicious or something? Stuff is straight delicious.people keep telling me to stop eating raw potatoes. I won't give in :delicious
Post by: BIONIC on March 01, 2023, 04:46:00 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 01, 2023, 11:04:10 PM
https://twitter.com/mistergeezy/status/1630428854559834113
Post by: Nintex on March 02, 2023, 03:00:18 AM
:lol
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on March 02, 2023, 05:12:36 AM
Post by: BisMarckie on March 02, 2023, 06:33:56 AM
:thinking
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on March 02, 2023, 08:45:34 AM
https://twitter.com/Slatzism/status/1631094604341624832 (https://twitter.com/Slatzism/status/1631094604341624832)
:lol
mac.sunny
Post by: james on March 02, 2023, 11:34:42 AM
Post by: NekoFever on March 02, 2023, 12:02:25 PM
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/allosexual
Post by: Pissy F Benny on March 02, 2023, 12:07:49 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
when you come across someone using made up terms like that, its just best to ignore them :elon
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 02, 2023, 12:31:33 PM
Post by: james on March 02, 2023, 01:33:45 PM
https://twitter.com/hellonecole/status/1631138652452528128
I was expecting some unhinged cringe but that seems accurate?
Like dont take a Pol Pot quote about the beauty of the countryside and use it to show off your farmhouse wedding
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on March 02, 2023, 01:47:59 PM
Post by: BIONIC on March 02, 2023, 02:01:51 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on March 02, 2023, 05:24:22 PM
Post by: Nintex on March 02, 2023, 07:05:48 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on March 02, 2023, 08:22:21 PM
I need to look up what article this is from because it sounds like the professors solution is to stop reading old books :picard
Post by: Potato on March 02, 2023, 09:03:43 PM
https://twitter.com/thomaschattwill/status/1631435891909509120 (https://twitter.com/thomaschattwill/status/1631435891909509120)University-level picture books.
I need to look up what article this is from because it sounds like the professors solution is to stop reading old books :picard
Post by: benjipwns on March 03, 2023, 12:07:33 PM
twitter.com/thomaschattwill/status/1631435891909509120Might be related to whole word reading: https://www.apmreports.org/episode/2019/08/22/whats-wrong-how-schools-teach-reading
I need to look up what article this is from because it sounds like the professors solution is to stop reading old books :picard
You have to dump the old books because whole word readers can't understand contextual clues and definitely cannot understand older usages.
I'm surprised that if they are rewriting old books for problematic shit they aren't rewriting them into more modern language to help with this. More evidence they don't actually expect anyone to read the "updated" books. :lol
Post by: paprikastaude on March 03, 2023, 12:54:19 PM
I had to look up allosexual. Turns out it means straight. But it also means gay. Useful.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/allosexual
so... bi? Except giving it a more pretentious sound for culture warriors.
Post by: benjipwns on March 03, 2023, 03:14:08 PM
https://twitter.com/CartoonsHateHer/status/1631289011707707393
https://twitter.com/CartoonsHateHer/status/1631308736340934656
Post by: benjipwns on March 03, 2023, 03:15:26 PM
https://twitter.com/habibi_uk/status/1630961820184788992Quote from: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-64757799Four pupils have been suspended from a West Yorkshire secondary school after a copy of the Quran was damaged by students.(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fp4rBzRacAEr0Tv?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Wednesday's incident at Wakefield's Kettlethorpe High School happened when a copy of the Islamic text was brought in by a Year 10 pupil.
Head teacher Tudor Griffiths said the book remained intact and there was "no malicious intent" from those involved.
...
While at the school it sustained a slight tear to the cover and smears of dirt on some of the pages.(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fp53AD-aUAA8zWg?format=jpg&name=small)
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Post by: Nintex on March 03, 2023, 04:30:57 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on March 03, 2023, 04:38:57 PM
Post by: Nintex on March 03, 2023, 05:06:38 PM
Business idea, you stream some Qurans hanging above a fire with a winch and you slowly lower them towards the flames every day.
People have to donate to make the Qurans go back up. The more viewers the faster it moves down, the more it costs to haul them back up.
:money
Post by: BIONIC on March 03, 2023, 05:35:48 PM
:isthis
Post by: benjipwns on March 03, 2023, 05:43:29 PM
They seem really upset.Pretty sure this is what caused Benghazi.
Business idea, you stream some Qurans hanging above a fire with a winch and you slowly lower them towards the flames every day.
People have to donate to make the Qurans go back up. The more viewers the faster it moves down, the more it costs to haul them back up.
:money
Post by: benjipwns on March 03, 2023, 05:44:57 PM
Post by: james on March 03, 2023, 05:47:06 PM
Post by: Nintex on March 03, 2023, 06:02:50 PM
This must be what it is like for normies when they have to figure out which Pokemon game to buy.
Post by: benjipwns on March 03, 2023, 06:32:39 PM
Post by: Nintex on March 03, 2023, 06:33:25 PM
Post by: BIONIC on March 03, 2023, 06:55:18 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/5ecVhy3.png)
:science
Post by: benjipwns on March 03, 2023, 07:45:58 PM
Quote from: https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/womens-history-month-whiteness-problem-191603010.html
Dear white women during Women’s History Month:
Let’s kick off the party with a bit of housekeeping.
1. Women’s History Month is, and has always been, for and about YOU. White women. A month explicitly dedicated to celebrating you, white women, sandwiched between all the other months de facto dedicated to celebrating you, white women.
For you, it’s a month of marathon-watching white feminism, a compelling, dazzling, dizzying marathon of your achievements throughout time and space. White feminism, in short, is seeing everything through a gender lens, thereby erasing other marginalized identities, including race and ethnicity.
Women’s History Month is actually White Women’s History and Present Month.
Ergo for us, Black, Indigenous and brown women, it’s one gigantic reminder (or more aptly, one gigantic "fuck you") that we don’t count, aren’t your equals….aren’t even considered women by white society.
2. While you rage against the machine of sexism and flaunt your legion accomplishments this month, you conveniently redact your role as oppressor, namely that of white supremacist.
You conveniently ignore how you have enjoyed, and continue to enjoy, the benefits of having white skin in a white supremacist society. This necessarily comes at our expense: women who do not have white skin, women who are eaten alive by white supremacy culture and its executive branch — racism and xenophobia. At our expense by white men, of course, but also by you, white women.
Now that we’ve grounded ourselves in the reality of what this month IS, let’s reimagine what it COULD BE: time for true, deep introspection about how you, white women, can empower yourselves to be better, do better.
Set yourselves free.
This requires you to (a) acknowledge where you sit in the hierarchy of American society, which is one tiny rung beneath white men, and mountains above all Black, Indigenous and brown folks, and to (b) do something about it.
Beware, getting from (a) to (b) is a perilous journey.
White supremacy culture is a gigantic castle with oceans, rivers, tsunamis, mountains, jungles, floods, and fires surrounding it from every angle to ensure nothing can penetrate its hegemonic hold. These obstacles (after all, who besides white Jesus can move Mt. Everest or walk on water) are meant to make you feel overwhelmed and confused. These obstacles are meant to make you feel like you’ll drown, burn, choke, or freeze if you even attempt to get to the other side.
These obstacles effectively ensure you believe the work is impossible.
This is not true.
The obstacles are created. They were made. By white men and women. They can be unmade. Unmade by you, the architects.
These obstacles are a mirage — and by design, invisible. If you can’t see them, you can’t overcome them. And if you can’t overcome them, the status quo remains firmly intact. Which is how you pass down white supremacy culture to your kids, without even fully realizing it.
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While many of you have fallen prey to one or all of these obstacles, plenty of you are coming through to the other side, namely the "do something about it" part.
We know, because we work with you every day. We are seeing, in real life, in real time, white women waking up, internalizing how white supremacy is killing you, how you absolutely possess white power, and how you will not die by not doing anti-racism work perfectly, because you have realized that perfection doesn’t exist — and that it’s a trap meant to keep white women in your place, which is firmly right beneath white men.
One example: Recently, a white woman who’d read White Women, a book I coauthored with Regina Jackson, posted a video on Instagram announcing the start of a new book club. She wanted 50 fellow white women to join her. Within 36 hours, she had more than 200 white women sign up, and the number is growing by the day. With just one social media post, she’s organized hundreds of white women committed to taking action against white supremacy, patriarchy's greatest tool.
Now that you are organizing in this fashion (and see how easy it was — one Instagram reel), imagine what you can do next. Organize to fight back against book bans, against the assault on our LGBTQ kids, against police brutality, against gun violence, against climate catastrophe.
You can organize to elect people who will actually DO SOMETHING TOO.
You can organize for healthcare, housing, education, renewable energy.
You can organize to reclaim rights over your body.
You can organize for YOUR liberation.
Because you know, you deeply know, that you white women, like us Black and brown women, will never be liberated in this white supremacy culture.
That your liberation is intricately tied to ours.
That you will not be free if we are not free.
And that spending an entire month throwing a parade for the white suffragettes and Ruth Bader Ginsburg might not be the greatest path to liberation.
White women, your path to liberation lies within you, namely your ability, your courage to see yourselves for what you are — tools of white supremacy, tools of patriarchy, ergo tools of your own oppression.
This Women’s History Month, instead of spending hours, days, weeks raising myriad roofs for Nancy Pelosi and Taylor Swift, consider blowing the roof off the castle of white supremacy and getting to work on setting ALL of us women — Black, Indigenous, brown, and yes, you, white women — free.
Post by: Himu on March 03, 2023, 08:35:49 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FqU8NKUaMAAZ1GS?format=jpg&name=900x900)
What a ri ri
Post by: Potato on March 04, 2023, 06:02:49 AM
https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/police-called-to-womens-right-protest-in-brisbane/video/e51f19e930bd3e9fd5e1d8ceb1d9d06b (https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/police-called-to-womens-right-protest-in-brisbane/video/e51f19e930bd3e9fd5e1d8ceb1d9d06b)
This shit should kick off big time next week with International Women's Day.
letthemfight.gif
Post by: Potato on March 04, 2023, 07:12:00 AM
Post by: Nintex on March 04, 2023, 10:22:15 AM
The fact that they use the free tier and have to attribute credit to Envato Elements for the image tells me everything I need to know about Ashton Linnel's clickbait operation.
None of these rags ever highlight the fact that people put 0 effort into their resume. Broken portfolio links, spelling mistakes, stretching out their very small contribution to a very large project or not giving any specifics as to what their role was or their process.
You may have worked for a company that was hired by a Disney affiliate to serve drinks at a Marvel press event but that does NOT mean you were employed by Disney Marvel.
Post by: Potato on March 04, 2023, 04:05:56 PM
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https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/02/resumes-including-they/them-pronouns-are-more-likely-to-be-overlooked.html
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Post by: HaughtyFrank on March 04, 2023, 07:26:09 PM
This will probably be ignored by most progressives because by now they think Maher is the devil but I really wonder how it came to be that trigger warnings are so widespread when there's legit research out there that concludes that they either don't help or even makes things worse for the traumatized
https://theconversation.com/proceed-with-caution-the-trouble-with-trigger-warnings-192598
https://lifeinmind.org.au/a-meta-analysis-of-the-efficacy-of-trigger-warnings-content-warnings-and-content-notes
I get that the public might not really care about studies like that, by how do academics just ignore it?
Post by: Himu on March 04, 2023, 07:33:36 PM
https://twitter.com/billmaher/status/1631877626313711619
This will probably be ignored by most progressives because by now they think Maher is the devil but I really wonder how it came to be that trigger warnings are so widespread when there's legit research out there that concludes that they either don't help or even makes things worse for the traumatized
https://theconversation.com/proceed-with-caution-the-trouble-with-trigger-warnings-192598
https://lifeinmind.org.au/a-meta-analysis-of-the-efficacy-of-trigger-warnings-content-warnings-and-content-notes
I get that the public might not really care about studies like that, by how do academics just ignore it?
They were originally for survivors of PTSD and rape victims and it became a part of common culture and turned into a joke.
Post by: benjipwns on March 04, 2023, 10:14:44 PM
This will probably be ignored by most progressives because by now they think Maher is the devil but I really wonder how it came to be that trigger warnings are so widespread when there's legit research out there that concludes that they either don't help or even makes things worse for the traumatizedNobody's going to read "research" (aka lies) from fascists, especially not if they don't have trigger warnings about the lies within.
https://theconversation.com/proceed-with-caution-the-trouble-with-trigger-warnings-192598
https://lifeinmind.org.au/a-meta-analysis-of-the-efficacy-of-trigger-warnings-content-warnings-and-content-notes
I get that the public might not really care about studies like that, by how do academics just ignore it?
Post by: Nintex on March 06, 2023, 01:41:48 PM
The kid's gotta learn marketable skills breh
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on March 06, 2023, 02:21:37 PM
also:
(https://i.imgur.com/YUoA6qa.png)
dat thirst
Post by: Nintex on March 06, 2023, 03:12:01 PM
By then most mundane tasks are automated by AI and OnlyFans-type content can just be generated by AI's. Crypto is dead so he's too late for that career path.
I don't think dad has the connections to the corporate or political world to land his kid a decent job.
The kids' gotta suck on the side what he can or try to convince the they/them corpo overlords to give him a job. Either way, the school is trying to teach kids how to survive in the future not the current times.
After all dad's gonna be in jail for some Tweet he posted in 2014 that the AI censors picked up.
Post by: benjipwns on March 06, 2023, 04:58:58 PM
also:She is the star of this, don't even listen to him or whatever he was on about that nobody cares about, just watch her.
(https://i.imgur.com/YUoA6qa.png)
dat thirst
(https://i.imgur.com/t0ysERe.png)
Post by: Potato on March 06, 2023, 05:14:50 PM
Twatter and its people should ask be burned alive.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on March 06, 2023, 07:25:50 PM
https://twitter.com/AdamSessler/status/1632078967216959489
https://twitter.com/AdamSessler/status/1632121484167757829
:lol :lol :lol
Post by: Nintex on March 06, 2023, 07:37:54 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on March 06, 2023, 07:48:15 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 06, 2023, 07:51:09 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on March 06, 2023, 07:53:52 PM
If he catches on with resistance dorks there's an easy patreon/podcast/YouTube market to exploit :money
Post by: team filler on March 06, 2023, 11:14:00 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 07, 2023, 12:56:24 AM
https://twitter.com/AdamSessler/status/1632135547836837888
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/RoyKoopaling/status/1632385585561104384
https://twitter.com/eedougd/status/1632172634002853890
https://twitter.com/eedougd/status/1632172634002853890
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Post by: who is ted danson? on March 07, 2023, 08:04:01 AM
Post by: D3RANG3D on March 07, 2023, 09:34:40 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on March 08, 2023, 11:57:12 AM
Post by: Nintex on March 08, 2023, 02:09:22 PM
Post by: D3RANG3D on March 08, 2023, 02:49:30 PM
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on March 08, 2023, 03:06:43 PM
https://twitter.com/bonchieredstate/status/1633500509750325259 (https://twitter.com/bonchieredstate/status/1633500509750325259)
Link to whats being removed?
Post by: Nintex on March 08, 2023, 06:09:19 PM
Some instagram style writinghttps://twitter.com/bonchieredstate/status/1633500509750325259 (https://twitter.com/bonchieredstate/status/1633500509750325259)
Link to whats being removed?
:nsfw
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/FLVoiceNews/status/1633500383153643521 (https://twitter.com/FLVoiceNews/status/1633500383153643521)
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Bustin loads into a bottle of mountain dew
:dead
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on March 08, 2023, 06:12:14 PM
Post by: Nintex on March 08, 2023, 06:29:14 PM
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on March 08, 2023, 07:18:19 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on March 08, 2023, 07:22:53 PM
Post by: Tuckers Law on March 08, 2023, 07:33:32 PM
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Let's work our way in from the outside.
:doge
Post by: BisMarckie on March 10, 2023, 03:56:30 AM
Post by: Himu on March 10, 2023, 09:07:41 AM
Adam Sessler just found the way to beat cancel culture. Just say they’re a bunch of Trump supporters.
https://twitter.com/AdamSessler/status/1632078967216959489
https://twitter.com/AdamSessler/status/1632121484167757829
:lol :lol :lol
My experience as an jprg fan is precisely why I no longer trust game journalists. Fight and Heal never forget.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 10, 2023, 01:54:19 PM
:lol :lol
It's a psyop. I can't fathom watching a personal film and dismissing it because the struggle presented doesn't compare to my struggle, or another group's struggle. Wild.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on March 10, 2023, 02:06:22 PM
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I'm going to vote for Everything Everywhere All at Once wherever I can. I just saw Banshees of Inisherin, it was so funny and so good, and then I was like, ugh, why does this all-white, all-straight movie have to be good? I really want Everything Everywhere All at Once to win because it brings out the word "Original" in the title of the award.
:engel
Post by: D3RANG3D on March 10, 2023, 02:32:37 PM
Post by: Nintex on March 10, 2023, 02:54:50 PM
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The Actor: His performances in critic ally heralded prestige dramas, biting mainstream thrillers, and on Emmy-winning TV shows have earned this actor consistent acclaim throughout his career.
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I don't believe that thing of you have to be a murderer to play a murderer — I know it's all the rage. you can't play a gay guy unless you're a gay guy — it's so out of control with the wokeness. I'm a fervent liberal, but wokeness, I think we all agree, has taken over
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/de/ed/a5/deeda5ed422cac28397424b5d5e8903f.gif)
Post by: Potato on March 10, 2023, 06:10:38 PM
https://twitter.com/capybaroness/status/1634216085477105667My take has always been that having an inability to see others' struggles because you believe your own to be so much worse is an indication of extreme privilege in itself.
:lol :lol
It's a psyop. I can't fathom watching a personal film and dismissing it because the struggle presented doesn't compare to my struggle, or another group's struggle. Wild.
Post by: Uncle on March 10, 2023, 07:01:59 PM
https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1634324565001379840
https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1634296385183916034
https://twitter.com/pdabrosca/status/1634310878144151553
https://twitter.com/CurtisHouck/status/1634306602470703104
Post by: Nintex on March 10, 2023, 07:37:19 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 10, 2023, 08:08:20 PM
So you're saying all LGBT people and people of color are like murderers? That they should get the death penalty? From a firing squad? :socialQuoteI don't believe that thing of you have to be a murderer to play a murderer — I know it's all the rage. you can't play a gay guy unless you're a gay guy — it's so out of control with the wokeness. I'm a fervent liberal, but wokeness, I think we all agree, has taken over
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on March 10, 2023, 08:33:22 PM
https://twitter.com/calebecarma/status/1634301037661093890
:stahp
Post by: Himu on March 11, 2023, 04:41:16 AM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on March 11, 2023, 08:49:38 AM
Post by: Nintex on March 11, 2023, 12:47:05 PM
Understatement of the century regarding the absolute current state of "conservative" politics
Post by: benjipwns on March 11, 2023, 10:23:58 PM
Post by: Himu on March 11, 2023, 10:27:01 PM
Absolute unhinged mental illness combined with child abuse and this is coming from someone that hates Covid hysterics. You value your own BS over your own child getting treatment and help and you should be ashamed.
Post by: Himu on March 12, 2023, 03:14:02 AM
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on March 12, 2023, 08:22:15 AM
was she on her smoke break?
Post by: benjipwns on March 13, 2023, 01:47:26 PM
Post by: Potato on March 13, 2023, 03:27:36 PM
Post by: BIONIC on March 13, 2023, 08:17:53 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on March 14, 2023, 02:27:07 PM
You know this guy is full of shit when he brings up completely irrelevant things as well, like that the actors, producers etc. are cis white and male.
Post by: benjipwns on March 14, 2023, 02:36:41 PM
There was a great 30 tweet thread from some chick who spent the first few tweets talking about how she paid for a different movie to sneak into The Whale and then the rest was about how horrible it is and how all fat people need to avoid it for their mental health though she of course never exactly specified why this was the case.
That "fatdoctor" guy is one of a number of claimed fat medical professionals on fat liberation Twitter who spend all day talking about how there's no scientific proof that being fat (defined by these people as being like over 300 pounds or more) is bad for you, that there's more proof that being thin is bad for you and that all of medical science is a thin plot to genocide fat people.
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on March 14, 2023, 02:47:05 PM
https://twitter.com/thefatdoctoruk/status/1635179330388242435
You know this guy is full of shit when he brings up completely irrelevant things as well, like that the actors, producers etc. are cis white and male.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg0CFUiYkaM
Post by: HardcoreRetro on March 14, 2023, 02:47:47 PM
"Weight Inclsuive Care for the Insulin Resistant"
Did I say fat inclusive? I meant Fat Inclsuive Care. Only 32 pounds for that shit. What a deal!
Post by: Potato on March 14, 2023, 02:59:42 PM
https://twitter.com/thefatdoctoruk/status/1635179330388242435I heard Harrison Ford isn't even a real archeologist...AAAAAAND he's a cis white man!!!!
You know this guy is full of shit when he brings up completely irrelevant things as well, like that the actors, producers etc. are cis white and male.
Post by: Potato on March 14, 2023, 03:01:58 PM
Fat liberation Twitter has been amazing about The Whale. They don't even actually agree about why it's so offensive. (Well, other than Brendan Fraser isn't fat enough, so it's appropriation.) I've seen some complain that it's too negative, others that it's too positive, some that it's too unrealistic and others that it's too realistic about being fat. On and on, for millions of tweets for months.I don't think a single person outside of Twatter even cares about this shit which shows that the great Twatter containment strategy is working as intended.
There was a great 30 tweet thread from some chick who spent the first few tweets talking about how she paid for a different movie to sneak into The Whale and then the rest was about how horrible it is and how all fat people need to avoid it for their mental health though she of course never exactly specified why this was the case.
That "fatdoctor" guy is one of a number of claimed fat medical professionals on fat liberation Twitter who spend all day talking about how there's no scientific proof that being fat (defined by these people as being like over 300 pounds or more) is bad for you, that there's more proof that being thin is bad for you and that all of medical science is a thin plot to genocide fat people.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on March 14, 2023, 03:05:03 PM
Post by: Nintex on March 14, 2023, 03:18:35 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 14, 2023, 03:23:38 PM
The whale is also about a guy who is literally about to die from obesity, like it's one of the most extreme cases imaginable. No matter what obese actor you'd find, they'd have to put on a fat suit no matter what.FACT CHECK: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_600-lb_Life
Post by: HaughtyFrank on March 14, 2023, 04:07:50 PM
The whale is also about a guy who is literally about to die from obesity, like it's one of the most extreme cases imaginable. No matter what obese actor you'd find, they'd have to put on a fat suit no matter what.FACT CHECK: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_600-lb_Life
Good lord that death list
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_600-lb_Life#Subject_outcomes
Post by: BIONIC on March 14, 2023, 05:08:04 PM
The whale is also about a guy who is literally about to die from obesity, like it's one of the most extreme cases imaginable. No matter what obese actor you'd find, they'd have to put on a fat suit no matter what.FACT CHECK: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_600-lb_Life
How was it being on that show?
Post by: Polident Hive on March 14, 2023, 05:50:57 PM
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somebody dies from being too thin and malnourished. It’s what causes his downward spiral into gorging. The movie examines coping with grief in various forms. Also established he’s always been a big boy. He didn’t go from svelte to baron harkonnen. They’re acting like it’s guy gets fat and everybody hates him.
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Post by: Pissy F Benny on March 14, 2023, 06:29:04 PM
Post by: Nintex on March 14, 2023, 08:04:45 PM
:rogan
Post by: james on March 14, 2023, 11:57:17 PM
Post by: BIONIC on March 15, 2023, 09:34:03 AM
The whale is also about a guy who is literally about to die from obesity, like it's one of the most extreme cases imaginable. No matter what obese actor you'd find, they'd have to put on a fat suit no matter what.FACT CHECK: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_600-lb_Life
How was it being on that show?
The joke is that benji is very fat. Give me likes god dammit :rage
Post by: benjipwns on March 15, 2023, 10:27:27 PM
WARNING: OSCARS DISCOURSE INSIDE
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Post by: Nintex on March 16, 2023, 07:45:37 PM
I like how she adds: "This is a serious question"
Post by: benjipwns on March 16, 2023, 10:47:14 PM
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https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1636301739262394371
https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1636309306445291520
https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1636309306445291520
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Post by: team filler on March 17, 2023, 03:26:48 AM
"do you identify as black?" I bet that idiot thought she had a good point to make :neogaf she looks maybe mixed, but could be white. asking a dude who can't identify as anything other than black. it's like she wanted to use identity politics to prove some point she thought up and ended up proving how silly identity politics can be.
then the "nazis" when the guy was talking about the actual nazis of 1930s germany :maduro
is she really mad at breh because he doesn't think shutdowns are a solution currently? :confused
Post by: Pissy F Benny on March 17, 2023, 06:24:37 AM
Post by: benjipwns on March 17, 2023, 06:51:58 AM
is she really mad at breh because he doesn't think shutdowns are a solution currently? :confusedYeah, she's been tweeting a ton the last few months about how the lack of these and mask laws are eugenics against disabled people like her.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on March 17, 2023, 07:16:15 AM
Post by: james on March 17, 2023, 03:10:55 PM
https://twitter.com/punished_stu/status/1636657761780899840
https://twitter.com/DrWallkick/status/1636629791419015168
(https://i.redd.it/zfvyqzmf3doa1.jpg)
Post by: BIONIC on March 17, 2023, 06:30:37 PM
:wut ENHANCE :wut
shondark
:wut ENHANCE :wut
Shonda Mandark
:titus :titus :titus
Post by: D3RANG3D on March 18, 2023, 01:25:52 AM
Post by: Nintex on March 18, 2023, 06:23:57 AM
"I grew up in the aftermath of Nazi Germany and what you people are doing is the same" :iface
Post by: D3RANG3D on March 18, 2023, 07:04:43 AM
Post by: Mostima on March 18, 2023, 09:31:22 AM
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When I was 2, I wanted to kill myself
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I am the parent of a transgender child who is almost 8 years old
Something tells me that no matter what laws do or don't get passed, these people wouldn't suddenly become happy, functioning members of society.
Post by: Nintex on March 18, 2023, 10:27:50 AM
A day has 86400 seconds, that's ~2500 deaths per day.
Multiply that by 365 days, that's 9 million deaths per year.
The UN estimates about 700k - 800k people commit suicide globally on a yearly basis.
But somehow despite both record suicides not recorded by the UN (up to 9 million yearly) and the genocide that is being carried out by J.K. Rowling the trans community is growing bigger
I wonder if "suicide" has another meaning to them, like killing themselves in Minecraft or deleting their Twitter? :confused
Post by: benjipwns on March 18, 2023, 10:50:40 AM
But somehow despite both record suicides not recorded by the UN (up to 9 million yearly) and the genocide that is being carried out by J.K. Rowling the trans community is growing biggerA lot of modern genocides have this "decades of growing population" thing going on. :kermit
Post by: benjipwns on March 18, 2023, 11:14:19 AM
https://twitter.com/OliviaBowden__/status/1635983273095462912
Post by: BIONIC on March 18, 2023, 11:29:23 AM
Post by: Mostima on March 18, 2023, 11:32:44 AM
Post by: benjipwns on March 18, 2023, 12:30:14 PM
At least :dolezal spent all her time working for the NAACP and other Black organizations!
Post by: Himu on March 18, 2023, 12:46:21 PM
https://youtu.be/_yCRhxL5NHE
It is good to note the religious solidarity in the comments. Mashaa Allah.
Post by: D3RANG3D on March 18, 2023, 07:39:52 PM
Post by: Polident Hive on March 18, 2023, 07:52:13 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 18, 2023, 10:04:10 PM
Post by: Himu on March 19, 2023, 12:02:21 AM
Post by: team filler on March 19, 2023, 01:05:05 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FriHmz_akAApL4w?format=jpg&name=small):hesright
Post by: BIONIC on March 19, 2023, 10:40:38 PM
Post by: Kurt Russell on March 20, 2023, 10:37:35 AM
:shaking
Post by: D3RANG3D on March 20, 2023, 06:14:15 PM
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 20, 2023, 06:21:31 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FriHmz_akAApL4w?format=jpg&name=small)The people who peddle that most are black women or gay black men getting fucked by white dudes. :doge
I don't care who you date/marry. Only issue I have is with people who date out their race while simultaneously shitting on their race. For instance black men who date white women while saying shit like "black women are too angry, aren't attractive etc." That's coon shit.
Frederick Douglas married a white woman. Was he anti-black?
Post by: james on March 20, 2023, 09:24:36 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on March 20, 2023, 09:26:23 PM
:aloy
Post by: Potato on March 21, 2023, 03:37:09 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/MattBinder/status/1637976430968463360Is the irony here the fact that he's a professional e-beggar whose core business is in selling advertising on YouTube?
Post by: Himu on March 21, 2023, 06:56:49 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FriHmz_akAApL4w?format=jpg&name=small)The people who peddle that most are black women or gay black men getting fucked by white dudes. :doge
I don't care who you date/marry. Only issue I have is with people who date out their race while simultaneously shitting on their race. For instance black men who date white women while saying shit like "black women are too angry, aren't attractive etc." That's coon shit.
Frederick Douglas married a white woman. Was he anti-black?
What do you think of divestors?
Post by: HaughtyFrank on March 21, 2023, 10:05:19 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 21, 2023, 10:13:58 PM
Nope, you're doing it wrong.
Post by: HardcoreRetro on March 22, 2023, 04:05:05 AM
Post by: Potato on March 22, 2023, 09:26:46 AM
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World sport has been convulsed over the past few months – indeed years – by questions about trans athletes, especially trans women, competing in their acquired gender.
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Tensions are still very apparent, but there are some signs, with these new policies, of a shift on global policy from one based on testosterone levels to one based on male advantage acquired at puberty. And it is clear that the terrain has been shifting from the terrain of science to the terrain of ethics.
One new development has been a sort of quietening on the scientific front. Although you still get the odd piece trying to make the claim that testosterone suppression can remove male advantage, most of the serious people in the debate have given up on this claim. A systematic review of studies showed that, even if hormone therapy reduces levels to those seen in women, strength, lean body mass and muscle area remained higher for at least three years. And we always knew that the skeletal advantages remained.
.........
The third mistake is about the place of self-identity in categorisation. The IOC’s medical and scientific director, Richard Budgett, has endorsed the slogan “trans women are women”. But you don’t need, for now, to make your mind up on whether the slogan is true or not, because, either way, the logic of the IOC approach is wrong. If the slogan is true, then trans women should be eligible for women’s sport without having to pass any further tests. But if the slogan is false, then it’s difficult to see what motivates testosterone limits and tests, whether 10nmol or 5nmol or 2.5nmol, for two years, or three years or more, because women’s sport should only be for women.
Post by: james on March 22, 2023, 04:53:55 PM
Post by: Uncle on March 22, 2023, 10:41:44 PM
Post by: team filler on March 22, 2023, 10:45:11 PM
"oh no it's so hard living in north korea where you gotta dust a small framed picture everyday!" :stahp
Post by: Polident Hive on March 22, 2023, 11:14:14 PM
https://twitter.com/AnaKasparian/status/1638608868485005314
Post by: benjipwns on March 23, 2023, 12:39:27 AM
:ohyou
Post by: HaughtyFrank on March 23, 2023, 05:00:42 AM
Abortion rights are also inherently a women's right debate, with all the history and discrimination attached to it.
Post by: BIONIC on March 23, 2023, 11:17:22 AM
This is my contribution to this conversation.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on March 24, 2023, 12:29:45 AM
Post by: Potato on March 24, 2023, 01:34:41 AM
https://twitter.com/Undoomed/status/1638619769510457344 (https://twitter.com/Undoomed/status/1638619769510457344)
Capable of anything, huh?
You know what she's not capable of?
spoiler (click to show/hide)
- Seeing her fucking toes
- running
- getting up unassisted if she falls over
- living past the age of 40
- moderating her own blood sugar
- running
- getting up unassisted if she falls over
- living past the age of 40
- moderating her own blood sugar
[close]
Post by: Polident Hive on March 24, 2023, 01:51:15 AM
Puts together a guide. Has to update it moments later as it’s not inclusive enough.
It’s really that simple, folks.
Post by: benjipwns on March 24, 2023, 03:04:18 AM
:kobeyuck
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on March 24, 2023, 04:32:26 AM
https://twitter.com/Undoomed/status/1638619769510457344
THE SPICE MUST FLOW
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on March 24, 2023, 08:52:27 AM
Post by: Nintex on March 24, 2023, 04:43:48 PM
"Girlboss? Mario saves Peach. Super Mario is a boys game" :miyamoto
I expect this will be the Top Gun: Maverick of animated movies.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on March 24, 2023, 08:42:38 PM
Post by: Potato on March 24, 2023, 09:21:30 PM
Post by: Nintex on March 25, 2023, 06:50:44 AM
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1639411166429745152 (https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1639411166429745152)
https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1639376640969932801 (https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1639376640969932801)
Post by: team filler on March 25, 2023, 11:56:13 AM
Post by: team filler on March 25, 2023, 12:18:58 PM
Post by: BIONIC on March 25, 2023, 12:59:50 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 25, 2023, 02:04:13 PM
twitter.com/sasponella/status/1639287588333731840"the average person (i.e. a nazi)"
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fr_rXbiWwAE0Pgp?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Post by: team filler on March 25, 2023, 02:29:41 PM
You’d nut on her face, admit it :boloI can't nut when I'm barfing :-\
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on March 25, 2023, 02:57:56 PM
wow
Post by: benjipwns on March 25, 2023, 02:58:50 PM
https://twitter.com/H1TWOM4N/status/1639054534378139648
Post by: D3RANG3D on March 25, 2023, 03:09:43 PM
Post by: BIONIC on March 25, 2023, 03:50:57 PM
You’d nut on her face, admit it :boloI can't nut when I'm barfing :-\
Vomit only makes you nut harder. Admit it :bolo
Post by: HaughtyFrank on March 26, 2023, 12:41:23 PM
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/26/us/digital-blackface-social-media-explainer-blake-cec/index.html
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If you’re Black and you’ve shared such images online, you get a pass. But if you’re White, you may have inadvertently perpetuated one of the most insidious forms of contemporary racism.
You may be wearing “digital blackface.”
Quote
Put simply: digital blackface is 21st-century minstrelsy.
“Historical blackface has never truly ended, and Americans have yet to actively confront their racist past to this day,” Erinn Wong writes in an academic paper on the topic.
“In fact, minstrel blackface has emerged into even more subtle forms of racism that are now glorified all over the Internet.”
Wong says that digital blackface is wrong because it “culturally appropriates the language and expressions of black people for entertainment, while dismissing the severity of everyday instances of racism black people encounter, such as police brutality, job discrimination, and educational inequity.”
:cac
Post by: BIONIC on March 26, 2023, 12:54:40 PM
Post by: Nintex on March 26, 2023, 01:29:49 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on March 26, 2023, 01:53:58 PM
Post by: BIONIC on March 26, 2023, 02:14:02 PM
:titus
Not slick :ufup
Oh wait… :existential
Post by: Uncle on March 26, 2023, 03:21:35 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 26, 2023, 05:10:12 PM
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/26/us/digital-blackface-social-media-explainer-blake-cec/index.htmlI like the part where it's unfalsifiable.Quote“Historical blackface has never truly ended, and Americans have yet to actively confront their racist past to this day,” Erinn Wong writes in an academic paper on the topic.
Post by: benjipwns on March 26, 2023, 07:59:43 PM
Di'Rico got a lot of internalized whiteness. :kermit
Post by: Nintex on March 27, 2023, 01:55:42 PM
Quote
The Mandalorian is rated TV-14 for intense violence and language which means some content is not appropriate for kids under 14 years old.
(https://www.comingsoon.net/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2023/03/Lebowski-01.png)
Post by: benjipwns on March 27, 2023, 03:36:12 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 27, 2023, 04:39:27 PM
Post by: team filler on March 27, 2023, 04:40:45 PM
if you're an adult :trumps
Post by: benjipwns on March 27, 2023, 09:02:10 PM
Post by: BIONIC on March 27, 2023, 09:22:51 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on March 27, 2023, 09:37:03 PM
Post by: team filler on March 27, 2023, 10:11:39 PM
that and I don't want to cut my hair for religious purposes 8)
Post by: BIONIC on March 27, 2023, 11:50:27 PM
Post by: Himu on March 28, 2023, 05:21:25 PM
https://twitter.com/Newsweek/status/1640783908907130880
Have to protect the agenda.
Post by: Tuckers Law on March 28, 2023, 05:31:18 PM
Of course, the flipside is that my trust for government and its institutions is at such an all-time low, that maybe the opposite is better anymore, and leave everything transparent to public scrutiny.
Post by: Polident Hive on March 28, 2023, 05:49:41 PM
Post by: Himu on March 28, 2023, 05:52:58 PM
I’ll acknowledge it’s incredibly dark to speculate on what narrative will be formed around a tragic event. But the police body cam footage is out there and it’s worlds different than the Uvalde mess. Making the story about hero cops is probably what it’ll be rather than focusing on the psycho they took down.
They did a great job.
Post by: james on March 28, 2023, 05:56:09 PM
https://www.newsweek.com/audrey-hale-manifesto-release-raises-major-concerns-among-lgbtq-groups-1790938?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1680027396
https://twitter.com/Newsweek/status/1640783908907130880
Have to protect the agenda.
What if its an anti-Comcast manifesto
Post by: benjipwns on March 28, 2023, 06:43:01 PM
I agree with not releasing it, but only inasmuch as I don't think those documents should ever be released until a criminal investigation has either completed or stalled for an indefinite period of time.I mean, there's no "criminal investigation" here and these cases very rarely have them at all.
Of course, the flipside is that my trust for government and its institutions is at such an all-time low, that maybe the opposite is better anymore, and leave everything transparent to public scrutiny.
Post by: Himu on March 28, 2023, 07:32:00 PM
Their long game strategy is nill and I'd say weighing things there would be less hate for lgbtq individuals if the manifesto is released than suppressing it. With the manifesto people can just point at this one lunatic and case closed. In their decision to censor through force, however, not only was the shooter trans but the lgbt groups don't want the manifesto released, showing that maybe they're all lunatics. Bad decision.
This is your brain on Marxism, activism, and victim identity politics.
Ideological opponents will be milking this for ages. Thanks for the gift, LGBTQ.
Post by: Nintex on March 28, 2023, 07:44:39 PM
Although it wouldn't surprise me if a USB drive containing the manifesto ends up in Rudy Guliani's golf caddie's White Russian.
Post by: Potato on March 28, 2023, 09:39:58 PM
Police still need to investigate to make sure there is no need for charges to be laid against anyone else though.I agree with not releasing it, but only inasmuch as I don't think those documents should ever be released until a criminal investigation has either completed or stalled for an indefinite period of time.I mean, there's no "criminal investigation" here and these cases very rarely have them at all.
Of course, the flipside is that my trust for government and its institutions is at such an all-time low, that maybe the opposite is better anymore, and leave everything transparent to public scrutiny.
Post by: benjipwns on March 28, 2023, 09:51:24 PM
Post by: Himu on March 28, 2023, 10:25:40 PM
Post by: Himu on March 28, 2023, 10:31:24 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/WitchesVsPatriarchy/comments/124ujul/theres_no_such_thing_as_murder_in_the_womb/
Post by: benjipwns on March 28, 2023, 10:31:47 PM
Post by: team filler on March 29, 2023, 02:31:00 AM
Post by: Maiden Voyage on March 29, 2023, 06:09:28 AM
seems like someone bought into the trans genocide nonsense. she's telling people to fight back if they try to arrest you for being trans, but nobody is doing that ???
When words are violence, anything is possible if you're stupid enough.
Post by: james on March 30, 2023, 01:53:01 PM
https://twitter.com/nickschadegg/status/1641388345967407104
Post by: Kurt Russell on March 30, 2023, 02:01:10 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on March 30, 2023, 03:08:44 PM
We live in a society
Post by: BIONIC on March 30, 2023, 03:17:28 PM
Post by: james on March 30, 2023, 03:30:31 PM
Post by: team filler on March 30, 2023, 03:30:37 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/YBemCaV.jpeg)
Post by: Nintex on March 30, 2023, 03:34:54 PM
https://twitter.com/freak_incel/status/1641467431506915328 (https://twitter.com/freak_incel/status/1641467431506915328)
Post by: BIONIC on March 30, 2023, 04:15:10 PM
Post by: james on March 30, 2023, 04:23:53 PM
Post by: Potato on March 30, 2023, 04:27:21 PM
First egg prices now this inflation is everywhereLol, Peta Credlin is a stupid cunt. Even worse, an irrelevant stupid cunt shouting into the Twatter void.
https://twitter.com/nickschadegg/status/1641388345967407104
Post by: Nintex on March 30, 2023, 05:44:14 PM
:iface
Last time I checked there weren't any trans kids shot in a school this week.
Post by: Nintex on March 31, 2023, 03:33:06 AM
Poor kiddo's
Post by: Potato on March 31, 2023, 03:35:30 AM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on March 31, 2023, 01:26:34 PM
https://twitter.com/LavenderGhast/status/1641838496603074560
Post by: BIONIC on March 31, 2023, 01:30:26 PM
https://twitter.com/dril/status/831805955402776576
Post by: thetylerrob on March 31, 2023, 02:28:27 PM
Post by: Uncle on March 31, 2023, 02:32:51 PM
If you pause the video there are a lot of people with only 6 fingers up.
AI is really bad with number of fingers
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on March 31, 2023, 02:41:19 PM
Post by: Nintex on March 31, 2023, 02:49:14 PM
:clap
Post by: benjipwns on March 31, 2023, 06:29:44 PM
Post by: team filler on March 31, 2023, 10:09:51 PM
Post by: Potato on April 01, 2023, 02:49:42 AM
https://twitter.com/Twitch/status/1641810994635894784 (https://twitter.com/Twitch/status/1641810994635894784)Look like 4 school shooters honestly
:clap
Post by: HaughtyFrank on April 01, 2023, 07:45:05 AM
If you pause the video there are a lot of people with only 6 fingers up.
Yeah, seems like the ones talking about 7 victims are the outliers
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1641831493927333890
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on April 01, 2023, 08:21:22 AM
Post by: Nintex on April 01, 2023, 10:15:58 AM
Post by: Nintex on April 01, 2023, 10:19:05 AM
It wasn’t a parody :notlikethisAnother twist
https://twitter.com/BillboardChris/status/1641825933966594050 (https://twitter.com/BillboardChris/status/1641825933966594050)
Post by: D3RANG3D on April 01, 2023, 11:47:43 AM
Post by: Himu on April 01, 2023, 04:46:17 PM
Post by: Potato on April 01, 2023, 05:01:43 PM
Shock news!!!
Decent Pixar movie is top streaming movie in all households!!
Why the fuck wouldn't it be?
These people really do go around thinking that white people see non-white leads and immediately turn away.
:comeon
Post by: Nintex on April 01, 2023, 06:58:59 PM
Quote
“In an era of economic uncertainty intensified by the pandemic, studios pushed for theatrical ‘surefire hits’ that relied on nostalgia and previous intellectual property,” the study said. “Instead of forging ahead with more inclusivity and new narratives, studios seemed to limit their theatrical offerings in 2022, which also limited the opportunities for certain filmmakers.”:cruise
Post by: james on April 02, 2023, 12:18:53 AM
Post by: benjipwns on April 02, 2023, 12:29:43 AM
Post by: Nintex on April 02, 2023, 06:31:17 AM
this 'epidemic' of violence probably includes this post :idont
Post by: BIONIC on April 02, 2023, 07:04:09 AM
Post by: Uncle on April 02, 2023, 10:00:31 AM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on April 02, 2023, 04:07:54 PM
Quote“In an era of economic uncertainty intensified by the pandemic, studios pushed for theatrical ‘surefire hits’ that relied on nostalgia and previous intellectual property,” the study said. “Instead of forging ahead with more inclusivity and new narratives, studios seemed to limit their theatrical offerings in 2022, which also limited the opportunities for certain filmmakers.”:cruise
:what
Remakes and Sequels have been Hollywood's primary focus for years now
Post by: Nintex on April 02, 2023, 06:57:31 PM
Old IP's and nostalgia were such a big gamble that part 2 of Villeneuve's DUNE wasn't even greenlit until after it was a success.
Post by: Potato on April 02, 2023, 10:00:57 PM
Maverick will be looked back on in 10 years and people will not understand why it was labelled as "saving cinema distribution".
Post by: benjipwns on April 03, 2023, 12:25:11 AM
Post by: benjipwns on April 03, 2023, 12:27:23 AM
https://twitter.com/damikhoda/status/1641936264642396162
Post by: team filler on April 03, 2023, 12:39:13 AM
Post by: NekoFever on April 03, 2023, 03:33:41 AM
Top Gun's performance was up in the air
:ohyou
Post by: james on April 03, 2023, 08:03:40 AM
Post by: Uncle on April 03, 2023, 09:21:55 AM
Post by: Nintex on April 03, 2023, 12:31:56 PM
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on April 03, 2023, 04:46:01 PM
Post by: team filler on April 03, 2023, 06:07:47 PM
Post by: Himu on April 03, 2023, 07:19:14 PM
Post by: Potato on April 04, 2023, 02:30:42 AM
:oreilly
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on April 04, 2023, 02:38:37 PM
Post by: Potato on April 04, 2023, 03:12:43 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on April 04, 2023, 03:22:19 PM
Post by: NekoFever on April 04, 2023, 03:31:47 PM
They already know.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on April 04, 2023, 03:51:49 PM
Post by: Maiden Voyage on April 05, 2023, 07:37:23 AM
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on April 05, 2023, 01:38:35 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on April 05, 2023, 05:00:15 PM
:ufup :dead
Post by: Himu on April 05, 2023, 05:24:14 PM
When is kid rock going to grow up and become a man rock
Rock Man is a sick name but would Capcom allow him to use it?
Post by: Potato on April 05, 2023, 07:53:32 PM
With Capcom's history of borderline copyright infringement? I'd say yes.When is kid rock going to grow up and become a man rock
Rock Man is a sick name but would Capcom allow him to use it?
Post by: NekoFever on April 06, 2023, 07:29:36 AM
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/04/hogwarts-legacy-game-jk-rowling-transphobia-accusation/673583/
Fuck me, certain places would be very excited to discuss this if they were allowed to talk about it.
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Because political takes go viral more easily than aesthetics assessments do, we end up with rafts of commentary on whether an artwork is problematic, with the question of whether it’s interesting or well made trailing a long way behind. Some of the Hogwarts Legacy reviews barely touched on its gameplay mechanics—largely lifted from the Batman: Arkham series, as far as I can see, with a dash of the Eagle Vision from Assassin’s Creed—because they were so busy delivering a verdict on its political credentials. I’m currently 40 hours in and having so much fun kidnapping hippogriffs that I haven’t finished the game’s main quest, but unless something catastrophic happens in hour 41, no remotely fair-minded reviewer would rate this game as low as 1/10.
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The difference in the treatment of Hogwarts Legacy, and Rowling, from any other blockbuster game is instructive because it demonstrates that trans issues have become the No. 1 progressive touchstone among Gen Z—and particularly its nerdier fandoms. The fact that Rowling’s views on gender spring from her feminism, and her own experience of male violence, does not register strongly with an age cohort in which half of respondents say that women’s rights have gone too far. The specialist sites’ disclaimers also reflect the very male culture of video games, which persists despite the fact that players are now about evenly split along gender lines—48 percent identify as female, according to the latest figures from the Entertainment Software Association. The right-wing version of gamer hostility to feminism became apparent nearly a decade ago in Gamergate, the sexist backlash to the perceived feminization of games; the left-wing version today is the refusal to listen to Rowling’s actual, stated views as a left-wing British feminist and instead to hold her responsible for anti-trans bills in red states. The implication is that she should not raise her widely shared concerns about women’s spaces or child gender medicine because Tennessee, Texas, and Florida have elected Republican governors.
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The treatment of Hogwarts Legacy reflects my own experiences of writing about gender: being dismissed by people—including some in video-game circles—who don’t know very much about feminism but are very confident that feminists are doing it wrong.
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Does it matter if video-game critics are trapped in a bubble? I think so; these sites are badly serving their readers. There’s nothing wrong with holding minority opinions, but if you’re an activist trying to improve society, it is catastrophic not to realize when most people don’t agree with you. Social psychologists call this “false consensus” or “the majority illusion,” and it leads not only to campaigning missteps but also to hurt and disillusionment. Imagine what it’s like to know, deep in your heart, that J. K. Rowling is obviously a hateful bigot intent on perpetrating a genocide against a vulnerable minority—to the extent that this can merely be asserted, rather than argued—and then look at the sales figures for Hogwarts Legacy.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on April 06, 2023, 11:14:56 AM
https://twitter.com/diamondmolar/status/1641108127180365827
We live in a society
Culture war response on top of culture war. Male is a bad word now?
https://twitter.com/HidariSaikoune/status/1643776158583132166
Post by: james on April 06, 2023, 11:36:50 AM
Why is her mic so bad
Post by: Nintex on April 06, 2023, 01:43:49 PM
:mario
Post by: HaughtyFrank on April 06, 2023, 02:54:57 PM
https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1643986134320685056
Why is her mic so bad
Meanwhile Grace Randolph found it offensive how Mario and Bowser fight over Peach.
https://twitter.com/VitoComedy/status/1643968858825568256
What is going on with people
Post by: Himu on April 06, 2023, 05:29:04 PM
Post by: benjipwns on April 06, 2023, 10:25:44 PM
Can we not tone police the right side of history in the middle of Joanne's Genocide that nobody who claims to be an "ally" is doing anything to stop?QuoteDoes it matter if video-game critics are trapped in a bubble? I think so; these sites are badly serving their readers. There’s nothing wrong with holding minority opinions, but if you’re an activist trying to improve society, it is catastrophic not to realize when most people don’t agree with you. Social psychologists call this “false consensus” or “the majority illusion,” and it leads not only to campaigning missteps but also to hurt and disillusionment. Imagine what it’s like to know, deep in your heart, that J. K. Rowling is obviously a hateful bigot intent on perpetrating a genocide against a vulnerable minority—to the extent that this can merely be asserted, rather than argued—and then look at the sales figures for Hogwarts Legacy.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on April 07, 2023, 01:26:24 PM
Post by: BIONIC on April 07, 2023, 01:35:14 PM
Post by: james on April 07, 2023, 01:41:27 PM
Post by: james on April 07, 2023, 01:47:55 PM
They dun goofed
https://twitter.com/Packy_Griffin/status/1644348232334561281
https://twitter.com/EstherCinDC/status/1644301010364514304
https://twitter.com/carolineerose99/status/1644385268982480912
https://twitter.com/lylam_77/status/1644345387149402112
Post by: Nintex on April 07, 2023, 01:56:44 PM
Post by: james on April 07, 2023, 02:12:04 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on April 07, 2023, 02:26:52 PM
Post by: james on April 07, 2023, 05:13:53 PM
Post by: james on April 07, 2023, 05:52:24 PM
Post by: benjipwns on April 07, 2023, 10:15:56 PM
Someone made a March-Madness bracket for DC neighborhoods.I. Am. Cringing.
They dun goofed
Post by: HaughtyFrank on April 08, 2023, 07:50:39 PM
https://twitter.com/davidllamas_/status/1644188996887777280 (https://twitter.com/davidllamas_/status/1644188996887777280)
https://twitter.com/Riley_Gaines_/status/1644765613238243329
She now says she was held hostage?
Post by: team filler on April 09, 2023, 01:09:52 AM
thing is. most any comic would be a regular on any cable news station if they were invited. patrice used to go on fox news, but he wasn't on their side and knew exactly what they were up to. he want on because they allowed him to speak his point of view. eventually they stopped inviting him after this:twitter.com/TuckerOriginals/status/1625292727112851459Almost all the talking heads are washed up long-time Fox News regulars. :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD5vR4Lm1mM
he destroyed this fake idiot biaaaaaaaatch without even trying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW01Cn_qzj0
here patrice puts on a clinic and calls out the fox news pundits in real time about their bullshit tactics. he tried to save dr. hill, but dude wouldn't listen and fell into every trap fox news laid out for him.
patrice was one of the smartest dudes to ever do comedy and he was always completely self-aware. he knew better than to advocate for censorship as it would effect him more both as a comedian and as a black american. laws and censorship always come down hardest on the people placed at the bottom of society.
interesting thing of note is that dr hill was in more recent years fired from his job at cnn for offending jews by speaking up for palestine and it wasn't on tv when he did it. things really came full circle for him :doge
Post by: benjipwns on April 09, 2023, 01:24:28 AM
thing is. most any comic would be a regular on any cable news station if they were invited. patrice used to go on fox news, but he wasn't on their side and knew exactly what they were up to. he want on because they allowed him to speak his point of view. eventually they stopped inviting him after this:For a time it seemed like Fox News was more open to entertaining discussion in general, like how many times did Bill O'Reilly have on somebody so they could yell at each other in disagreement. Maybe the most infamous example being: :umad. My guilty pleasure of Red Eye used to be stocked with comedians of all political types, many of them were old Tough Crowd people and lots of them would make jokes about being allowed on Fox News, but then Fox (and Greg) started cracking down on them and only allowing "safe" ones like Steven Crowder and a couple others that Greg went to bat for like Sherrod Small.
Also this happened that one time:
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In a five-minute segment broadcast on Tuesday, March 17, 2009, Gutfeld and his panel discussed Canadian Lieutenant General Andrew Leslie's statement that the Canadian Armed Forces may require a one-year "synchronized break" once Canada's mission in Afghanistan ends in 2011.[26] "Meaning, the Canadian military wants to take a breather to do some yoga, paint landscapes, run on the beach in gorgeous white Capri pants," Gutfeld said.[26] "I didn't even know they were in the war", comedian panelist Doug Benson added, then continued, "I thought that's where you go if you don't want to fight. Go chill in Canada."[26] Gutfeld also said: "Isn't this the perfect time to invade this ridiculous country? They have no army!"[26] Schulz made comments about the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and their ceremonial red uniforms, and concluded by saying "This is not a smart culture!"[27]Although I see no lies in the segment, Canada is a scourge to humanity.
The segment drew wide attention and outrage in Canada after being posted on YouTube following the reported deaths of four Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan three days earlier.[28][29][30] Canada, at the time, had been in command of the NATO mission in the Kandahar Province, the birthplace and former Taliban capital, for the past three years.[31] Along with the Helmand Province, the two provinces were "home to some of the fiercest opposition to coalition forces" and reported to "have the highest casualty rates per province."[32]
Canadian Defence Minister Peter MacKay called on Fox to apologize for the satirical comments, describing the remarks as "despicable, hurtful and ignorant."[33] Gutfeld, in response, maintained the show is satirical and irreverent[34] but offered the following apology: "The March 17 episode of Red Eye included a segment discussing Canada's plan for a 'synchronized break,' which was in no way an attempt to make light of troop efforts. However, I realize that my words may have been misunderstood. It was not my intent to disrespect the brave men, women and families of the Canadian military, and for that I apologize."[33]
Doug Benson was scheduled to appear in Canada at Edmonton's The Comic Strip April 3–5, 2009, but the shows were canceled after the owner received threats of "bodily injury" toward the American comic. "Some were saying he wouldn't make it from the airport to the club. For everyone's safety, we decided it was best to avoid the scenario altogether," manager Rick Bronson said.[35] Benson also offered an apology following the incident on CTV News.[36] The comedian stated that he was "ignorant about the situation in Afghanistan" and that the timing of the jokes were "completely out of line".[36] "I honestly said things, in retrospect, I completely regret" said Benson and has vowed to "never appear on the show again".[36]
Post by: team filler on April 09, 2023, 02:03:01 AM
it's almost like people are purposely led to redirect their anger toward the wrong person, instead of the people who have real power and control over what happens :thinking
Post by: HaughtyFrank on April 09, 2023, 01:45:45 PM
Post by: Nintex on April 09, 2023, 02:21:15 PM
She's not the real victim either, counseling is provided for those who protested in the challenging spacehttps://twitter.com/davidllamas_/status/1644188996887777280 (https://twitter.com/davidllamas_/status/1644188996887777280)
https://twitter.com/Riley_Gaines_/status/1644765613238243329
She now says she was held hostage?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FtPSzOuWwAA_2Xm?format=jpg)
Post by: benjipwns on April 09, 2023, 10:08:37 PM
https://twitter.com/patriotempanada/status/1644647166072299523
https://twitter.com/patriotempanada/status/1645065231649972228
Post by: james on April 09, 2023, 10:54:28 PM
https://twitter.com/michelletandler/status/1645069391921545216
https://twitter.com/michelletandler/status/1645067621191286784
How its going
https://twitter.com/michelletandler/status/1645227498073096192
Post by: Potato on April 09, 2023, 11:36:45 PM
Do they like the inevitable famine and disease? Is there some sort of line in one of their manifestos about it?
Post by: james on April 09, 2023, 11:45:05 PM
What is it with communists and wanting to execute all the intelligent and knowledgeable people?
Communist? Shes a McKinsey consultant lol
Post by: benjipwns on April 09, 2023, 11:57:40 PM
Post by: james on April 10, 2023, 12:00:27 AM
Post by: james on April 10, 2023, 12:12:49 AM
https://twitter.com/fishontherun2/status/1645217611637194753
Post by: Potato on April 10, 2023, 12:46:20 AM
:dsp
...but when it comes to consultants, I'll personally swing the axe as the guillotine is probably too humane for those cockroaches.
Post by: benjipwns on April 10, 2023, 12:57:29 AM
I mean wikipedia is pretty communist and collectively has all our languageTry redirecting all the decadent bougie cultural pollution pages about like The Masked Singer, the MCU or Harry Potter to Zack Snyder's filmography if you think Wikipedia is a scientific repository of the people free from false consciousness. Suddenly a bunch of capitalists will appear to "protect" their "property" from your revolutionary science-based praxis. :kermit
Post by: HaughtyFrank on April 10, 2023, 09:40:33 AM
Post by: Uncle on April 10, 2023, 09:49:47 AM
I mean wikipedia is pretty communist and collectively has all our languageTry redirecting all the decadent bougie cultural pollution pages about like The Masked Singer, the MCU or Harry Potter to Zack Snyder's filmography if you think Wikipedia is a scientific repository of the people free from false consciousness. Suddenly a bunch of capitalists will appear to "protect" their "property" from your revolutionary science-based praxis. :kermit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_item_(Dungeons_%26_Dragons)#Notable_magic_items
(https://i.imgur.com/QE1jsxZ.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/mncN95I.gif)
Post by: james on April 10, 2023, 05:07:39 PM
Post by: james on April 10, 2023, 07:56:37 PM
Video is worth watching
Post by: benjipwns on April 10, 2023, 08:14:26 PM
Post by: james on April 10, 2023, 08:45:33 PM
But where do I get the "regular water" she's got like a whole pitcher just sitting there on her counter? ???
I dont understand why she didnt start with the already cold water in the fridge. Why did we need to mix cold with room temperature first
Post by: Himu on April 10, 2023, 10:08:49 PM
so the canadien government sent some of it's citizens to their death in another country and then people got convinced to be angry at a comedian over it ???
it's almost like people are purposely led to redirect their anger toward the wrong person, instead of the people who have real power and control over what happens :thinking
I used to be jealous of Canada.
Post by: james on April 10, 2023, 10:37:55 PM
Post by: benjipwns on April 10, 2023, 11:51:56 PM
Post by: Nintex on April 11, 2023, 01:07:02 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/elaifresh/status/1645248101559709697Half of the tiktoks moms are like this, she's just selling a product.
Video is worth watching
There's all sorts of advertising laws for product placement and whatnot but of course those don't apply to the tiktok :trumps
Post by: Nintex on April 11, 2023, 03:19:23 PM
oh you sweet summer child :mario
Post by: Uncle on April 11, 2023, 03:43:34 PM
people latch on to all these older depiction of trans characters, forgetting that almost all of it was rooted in mockery or giving a sense of weirdness/wrongness
(https://i.imgur.com/z97Bz3R.png)
nintendo is deadnaming birdo to this day :doge
https://alexhasopinions.medium.com/nintendos-birdo-is-not-a-trans-icon-326dd4c08f2c
Quote
Birdo is supposed to be funny because she is an “other.”
A strong example of this otherization is the Japanese exclusive Wii game called Captain Rainbow (2008). The protagonist of the game is a human named Nick, who has a superhero alter ego, Captain Rainbow. There is a sidequest in the game where Nick has to rescue Birdo from jail after she was arrested for using the wrong bathroom (i.e., the women’s bathroom). You then have to find an object from her house, probably her vibrator, that “proves” to the robot police officer that she is a woman. The bathroom debate for trans people is a very contentious issue, and this joke plays into that painful history.
but no really, birdo is totally woke bro :-*
Post by: NekoFever on April 11, 2023, 04:02:27 PM
And Samus is canonically trans because the manual uses male pronouns but she comes out as a woman at the end.
Post by: D3RANG3D on April 11, 2023, 04:09:35 PM
Post by: HardcoreRetro on April 11, 2023, 04:19:17 PM
Makes sense.
Post by: benjipwns on April 12, 2023, 10:57:19 AM
Gender signifiers are bad and sexist but also, if a boy plays with a Barbie doll that means they want to have their cock cut off and chucked in the corner because they're actually a girl.I don't think you understand they (in the loose sense that someone somewhere may have done this) already queered, problematized and deconstructed gender, now they're allowed to reconstruct it in any form they wish. Even if that form is decades out of date from even the conservative mainstream media portrayal in things like sitcoms and cartoons, generally from before they were even born.
Makes sense.
And you're required to accept this or else it's violence. (They also deconstructed that one while you were busy being ignorant and hateful.)
Post by: Nintex on April 12, 2023, 12:44:49 PM
:pika
Post by: Nintex on April 13, 2023, 10:15:36 AM
I don't care what history says nelson mandela was a fat real estate developer from New York :trumps
Post by: HardcoreRetro on April 13, 2023, 10:21:11 AM
(https://pics.filmaffinity.com/coal_black_and_de_sebben_dwarfs_so_white_and_de_sebben_dwarfs-594324247-large.jpg)
Post by: Propagandhim on April 13, 2023, 10:40:06 AM
https://twitter.com/lporiginalg/status/1646361581419372545 (https://twitter.com/lporiginalg/status/1646361581419372545)
I don't care what history says nelson mandela was a fat real estate developer from New York :trumps
This is really obnoxious to be honest. How did a Macedonian ever get appropriated as black? Astonishing shit. Woke Americanism is really a sight to behold.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on April 13, 2023, 10:55:03 AM
https://twitter.com/lporiginalg/status/1646361581419372545 (https://twitter.com/lporiginalg/status/1646361581419372545)
I don't care what history says nelson mandela was a fat real estate developer from New York :trumps
We're entering some really weird territories with first the Women King and now this. Like it feels like it went from "This King Arthur movie doesn't have to be historically accurate, it got freaking dragons in it" (Which is fair) to "This woman from Greece was black because my grandma told me and it's racist if you disagree" which is just outright delusion.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on April 13, 2023, 11:49:43 AM
https://twitter.com/lporiginalg/status/1646361581419372545 (https://twitter.com/lporiginalg/status/1646361581419372545)
I don't care what history says nelson mandela was a fat real estate developer from New York :trumps
So are black people going to owe Jews reparations?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on April 13, 2023, 01:03:45 PM
https://twitter.com/lporiginalg/status/1646361581419372545 (https://twitter.com/lporiginalg/status/1646361581419372545)
I don't care what history says nelson mandela was a fat real estate developer from New York :trumps
This is really obnoxious to be honest. How did a Macedonian ever get appropriated as black? Astonishing shit. Woke Americanism is really a sight to behold.
I bet a large amount of woke American's have their tiny little minds blown when they find out that north African's are generally Arabic.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on April 13, 2023, 02:20:03 PM
The show hasn't even really started production yet :boring
Edit:
https://twitter.com/Jerasunder/status/1646573853022519296
Okay, that's enough twitter for today
Post by: team filler on April 13, 2023, 05:22:19 PM
the jews in the bible had dark skin tbh. closer to modern ethiopian jews than the euro jews that hate Palestinians.https://twitter.com/lporiginalg/status/1646361581419372545 (https://twitter.com/lporiginalg/status/1646361581419372545)
I don't care what history says nelson mandela was a fat real estate developer from New York :trumps
So are black people going to owe Jews reparations?
it's hilarious that these super pasty white jews think that their ancestors were wondering around in the desert for 40 years. lol, they never would have made it with that see through skin
kanye is closer to what the jews of the bible were than lex fridman, but in the interview lex didn't like kanye calling himself a jew :yeshrug
Post by: Nintex on April 13, 2023, 05:28:28 PM
This is really obnoxious to be honest. How did a Macedonian ever get appropriated as black? Astonishing shit. Woke Americanism is really a sight to behold.
We're entering some really weird territories with first the Women King and now this. Like it feels like it went from "This King Arthur movie doesn't have to be historically accurate, it got freaking dragons in it" (Which is fair) to "This woman from Greece was black because my grandma told me and it's racist if you disagree" which is just outright delusion.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FtkNIjWagAAVY8I?format=jpg)
I don't see how this is any different from Ancient Aliens, except that it is less entertaining :trumps
Post by: team filler on April 13, 2023, 07:48:02 PM
it's almost like in the beginning it was africa colonizing everyone else and then at a certain point everyone else began to colonize africa :dogehttps://twitter.com/lporiginalg/status/1646361581419372545 (https://twitter.com/lporiginalg/status/1646361581419372545)
I don't care what history says nelson mandela was a fat real estate developer from New York :trumps
This is really obnoxious to be honest. How did a Macedonian ever get appropriated as black? Astonishing shit. Woke Americanism is really a sight to behold.
I bet a large amount of woke American's have their tiny little minds blown when they find out that north African's are generally Arabic.
Post by: tiesto on April 13, 2023, 09:10:35 PM
https://twitter.com/lporiginalg/status/1646361581419372545 (https://twitter.com/lporiginalg/status/1646361581419372545)
I don't care what history says nelson mandela was a fat real estate developer from New York :trumps
This is really obnoxious to be honest. How did a Macedonian ever get appropriated as black? Astonishing shit. Woke Americanism is really a sight to behold.
I bet a large amount of woke American's have their tiny little minds blown when they find out that north African's are generally Arabic.
Or that there are plenty of white people with full European ancestry living in Latin America...
Post by: Potato on April 13, 2023, 09:29:04 PM
https://twitter.com/lporiginalg/status/1646361581419372545 (https://twitter.com/lporiginalg/status/1646361581419372545)
I don't care what history says nelson mandela was a fat real estate developer from New York :trumps
This is really obnoxious to be honest. How did a Macedonian ever get appropriated as black? Astonishing shit. Woke Americanism is really a sight to behold.
I bet a large amount of woke American's have their tiny little minds blown when they find out that north African's are generally Arabic.
Or that there are plenty of white people with full European ancestry living in Latin America...
"Full European ancestry" you say?
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71r7Ptsc77L._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg)
Post by: benjipwns on April 13, 2023, 10:31:54 PM
Post by: benjipwns on April 13, 2023, 11:22:49 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on April 14, 2023, 11:58:43 AM
https://m.ntdtv.com/gb/2023/04/09/a103686837.html
Post by: Nintex on April 14, 2023, 12:37:57 PM
Bring back traditional culture!!!I always get YouTube ads for these shows.
https://m.ntdtv.com/gb/2023/04/09/a103686837.html
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Steven Goldberg, Senior Software Engineer: "I didn't know what to expect when I went into the theater, and I was blown away by the results. The show was very dynamic and colorful. I'm a musician myself, so I was enchanted. I always like to see live Symphony. Very interesting and a lot of surprises, because I really didn't know what kind of show it was going to be."
It's probably how they brainwash the soy bois into marxists. :juche
Post by: HaughtyFrank on April 14, 2023, 01:09:12 PM
Oh Disney, you really just want to see the world burn. Now the other half of twitter is pissed :lol
Post by: Nintex on April 14, 2023, 02:20:21 PM
Post by: Potato on April 14, 2023, 05:03:45 PM
https://twitter.com/macaiyla/status/1646677925239062529 (https://twitter.com/macaiyla/status/1646677925239062529)
Oh Disney, you really just want to see the world burn. Now the other half of twitter is pissed :lol
She's native Hawaiian, but SHE'S NOT NATIVE ENOUGH!!!
:gamergate
Post by: benjipwns on April 14, 2023, 11:36:19 PM
Post by: team filler on April 15, 2023, 04:51:25 AM
Post by: benjipwns on April 16, 2023, 07:27:34 AM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on April 16, 2023, 10:31:52 PM
:gbcry
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 17, 2023, 02:22:50 PM
Post by: benjipwns on April 17, 2023, 04:23:07 PM
Post by: Uncle on April 18, 2023, 03:17:25 PM
first, fox and leading conservatives are freaking out and desperately trying to stop rednecks from boycotting bud lite, because apparently they're a top republican donor
(https://i.imgur.com/gE7EmYN.jpeg)
but also, the boycott is doing nothing and actually the stock has hit an all time high
(https://i.imgur.com/9OyibzY.jpeg)
why would a company so conservative that it's a top republican donor commit an unforced error and partner with someone they know will upset their redneck base? but why would fox freak out about the boycott when it's apparently done nothing? isn't it anheuser busch's responsibility to take actions that won't cause people to boycott them? but apparently they made the right move if their stock is doing so well?
well turns out the second image going around social media is an outright lie and the stock has only been going down since the new campaign, but not by very much, so basically nothing is happening
https://www.google.com/search?q=BUD+stock
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on April 18, 2023, 03:53:14 PM
That's like an 1/7th of a twitter.
Post by: Potato on April 18, 2023, 03:59:05 PM
If their sales fall off over the next few months and don't recover, THEN people can call it a failure.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
However, if past attempts at "woke" campaigns are any indication, this type of campaign will quickly be buried and never spoken of again.
[close]
Post by: Uncle on April 18, 2023, 04:25:42 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)However, if past attempts at "woke" campaigns are any indication, this type of campaign will quickly be buried and never spoken of again.[close]
(https://i.imgur.com/3xkn71k.png)
:idont
Post by: Potato on April 18, 2023, 04:38:21 PM
That's what I was talking about...although, the drop does coincide with covid which might imply that people spending the majority of time indoors might lead to less personal grooming and more beard growing.spoiler (click to show/hide)However, if past attempts at "woke" campaigns are any indication, this type of campaign will quickly be buried and never spoken of again.[close]
(https://i.imgur.com/3xkn71k.png)
:idont
Edit: Sales slump began in mid-2019, so likely directly caused by telling men they're evil pathetic cunts.
Post by: Uncle on April 18, 2023, 04:50:35 PM
Edit: Sales slump began in mid-2019, so likely directly caused by telling men they're evil pathetic cunts.
look buddy I don't know where the fuck you're finding that info but it's not a reliable source
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:The_Best_Men_Can_Be
(https://i.imgur.com/sVPsy4Y.png)
Post by: Potato on April 18, 2023, 04:56:03 PM
Do you think they realise Wikipedia moderation discussions are public?
Post by: Potato on April 18, 2023, 05:04:56 PM
Quote
When delighted Harry Potter fans learned the boy wizard will return to their screens, they also received another surprise: JK Rowling, who wrote the original books, is coming along too.
In an announcement this week, Warner Bros Discovery, the entertainment titan that first brought the series to cinemas, said it is developing a new, decade-long television show – with Rowling taking the key role of executive producer.
“I'm looking forward to being part of this new adaptation, which will allow for a degree of depth and detail only afforded by a long form television series,” the author said.
A few years ago, Rowling’s involvement in the project would hardly have come as a shock.
But the decision to involve the British author – and so publicly – marks a significant shift in tone.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on April 18, 2023, 05:05:00 PM
I never heard Gilette talk about toxic masculinity again, I had even forgotten that they did this silly ad. Meanwhile that Old Spice dude who sits on a horse etc. stuck around for years, so I assume that's pretty successful.
In the end all those billion dollar companies just look where the money is.
Like the budlight lady who spearheaded this marketing campaign even said that she wanted to move away from the "fratboy" image and gain more customers that way. That's the motivator, finding more people who don't buy your warm piss drink yet.
Post by: james on April 18, 2023, 05:16:16 PM
Post by: Uncle on April 18, 2023, 05:23:47 PM
I imagine one easy indicator if an ad campaign worked is whether the company keeps it going or not.
I never heard Gilette talk about toxic masculinity again, I had even forgotten that they did this silly ad. Meanwhile that Old Spice dude who sits on a horse etc. stuck around for years, so I assume that's pretty successful.
In the end all those billion dollar companies just look where the money is.
Like the budlight lady who spearheaded this marketing campaign even said that she wanted to move away from the "fratboy" image and gain more customers that way. That's the motivator, finding more people who don't buy your warm piss drink yet.
except with all the new attention on busch, apparently all those potential leftie customers have just learned that they're a major donor to republicans, so they're not falling for it either :doge
Post by: Nintex on April 18, 2023, 06:02:58 PM
"If you don't like diversity and inclusivity in Battlefield 5 buy something else nerds" and they all did and DICE imploded
Post by: HaughtyFrank on April 18, 2023, 06:06:12 PM
I remember when EA very openly said:
"If you don't like diversity and inclusivity in Battlefield 5 buy something else nerds" and they all did and DICE imploded
Because one of the lead devs was like "How can I explain to my daughter that she can't play a woman in this WW2 shooter?"
Maybe don't make a WW2 shooter then? Crazy idea.
Post by: team filler on April 18, 2023, 06:36:26 PM
Post by: Nintex on April 18, 2023, 06:40:02 PM
But instead they just do the bare minimum cookie cutter shit where you play as a boring average person with a pea shooter and camo print #3 on a map called "Farm" which is basically just a field of grass with a windmill :doge
Post by: Uncle on April 18, 2023, 06:50:10 PM
they could have a woman part of the game where you stay behind to work at factories and get deep dicked by the men who didn't get drafted and sent off to die :thinking
I would legitimately play this
Post by: Tuckers Law on April 18, 2023, 06:51:12 PM
go all the way with a fictional WW2 setting with a character creator which allows you to make Panzer Waifu's to drive the Wunderwaffen such as tanks as big as a house.
I'd play that game in a heartbeat, even despite it being an EA creation.
Post by: Potato on April 18, 2023, 08:04:53 PM
You could explain to her that, outside of some very specific examples, almost all of the fighting (and dying) in World War II was done by men and that fact can't be erased by some token inclusivity consultant.I remember when EA very openly said:
"If you don't like diversity and inclusivity in Battlefield 5 buy something else nerds" and they all did and DICE imploded
Because one of the lead devs was like "How can I explain to my daughter that she can't play a woman in this WW2 shooter?"
Maybe don't make a WW2 shooter then? Crazy idea.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on April 18, 2023, 08:09:02 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ft4OjB4WcAE2Vbq?format=jpg&name=large)
:gbcry
It continues.
https://mobile.twitter.com/NileGardiner/status/1646890332355690497
:biden
Post by: benjipwns on April 18, 2023, 10:11:32 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/9OyibzY.jpeg)I think we're missing the real story here. Someone made one of those awful "meme" images out of a BrookylnDad_Compliant tweet as if it was some profound quote.
well turns out the second image going around social media is an outright lie and the stock has only been going down since the new campaign, but not by very much, so basically nothing is happening
Post by: Uncle on April 18, 2023, 10:23:39 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/9OyibzY.jpeg)I think we're missing the real story here. Someone made one of those awful "meme" images out of a BrookylnDad_Compliant tweet as if it was some profound quote.
well turns out the second image going around social media is an outright lie and the stock has only been going down since the new campaign, but not by very much, so basically nothing is happening
let's see if "readers added context" shows up on the bire
edit: nope
https://twitter.com/mmpadellan/status/1646193978994221056
Post by: Pissy F Benny on April 19, 2023, 12:07:10 PM
Post by: D3RANG3D on April 19, 2023, 01:38:10 PM
Post by: tiesto on April 19, 2023, 02:39:09 PM
they could have a woman part of the game where you stay behind to work at factories and get deep dicked by the men who didn't get drafted and sent off to die :thinking
I could totally see this being an otome game :p
Post by: james on April 19, 2023, 03:17:09 PM
https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1648404840496652290
Post by: HardcoreRetro on April 19, 2023, 03:37:11 PM
:sicko
Post by: benjipwns on April 19, 2023, 05:29:25 PM
Post by: Uncle on April 19, 2023, 06:24:10 PM
https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1647693353671090180
like, in person through a monologue, or are we including writing that some of these people may have done on the Simpsons ???
Post by: benjipwns on April 19, 2023, 10:00:56 PM
Post by: Polident Hive on April 19, 2023, 10:32:02 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on April 19, 2023, 10:37:44 PM
Post by: james on April 19, 2023, 11:54:07 PM
Post by: benjipwns on April 20, 2023, 12:54:38 AM
twitter.com/wapplehouse/status/1648725855516884992https://twitter.com/Bimbowave/status/1648742038676832256
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/Anim3TiddyLov3r/status/1648794574939119621
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Post by: Himu on April 20, 2023, 05:55:46 AM
https://youtu.be/kyPUH825Bjk
Post by: benjipwns on April 20, 2023, 08:10:50 AM
I am obsessed with this woman.This may be the best thing she has written: https://www.bu.edu/arion/files/2017/09/Arion-Camille-Paglia-Junkbonds-Corporate-Raiders.pdf
Post by: james on April 20, 2023, 11:08:27 AM
Post by: Nintex on April 20, 2023, 11:31:39 AM
https://twitter.com/Harqinz/status/1649018417855307776 (https://twitter.com/Harqinz/status/1649018417855307776)
:dead
Post by: D3RANG3D on April 20, 2023, 12:08:41 PM
Post by: D3RANG3D on April 20, 2023, 12:29:25 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/5rNMfup.png)
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://i.imgur.com/hs1Z8kq.png)
[close]
Post by: Nintex on April 20, 2023, 02:21:18 PM
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1649097903326257154 (https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1649097903326257154)
Post by: Nintex on April 20, 2023, 02:39:38 PM
https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1647693353671090180Most of them certainly became a lot less funnier over the years.
https://twitter.com/weirddalle/status/1649044739763712000 (https://twitter.com/weirddalle/status/1649044739763712000)
Post by: benjipwns on April 20, 2023, 09:44:05 PM
twitter.com/Harqinz/status/1649018417855307776(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FuJwjdiXgAAixWT?format=jpg&name=small)
:dead
Post by: james on April 20, 2023, 11:51:02 PM
:pika
https://twitter.com/antifaoperative/status/1649203497739362305
Post by: Potato on April 21, 2023, 02:03:53 AM
Most of them certainly became a lot less funnier over the years.
https://twitter.com/weirddalle/status/1649044739763712000 (https://twitter.com/weirddalle/status/1649044739763712000)
Looks more human than the real Conan O'Brien ever did.
Post by: Himu on April 21, 2023, 04:54:40 AM
I am obsessed with this woman.This may be the best thing she has written: https://www.bu.edu/arion/files/2017/09/Arion-Camille-Paglia-Junkbonds-Corporate-Raiders.pdf
She also extrapolates on what I said a few months ago about women being followers and men being more natural loners, often to their detriment. Women seek female companionship and acceptance far more than men seek male companionship and acceptance. This is why girls are often so well behaved at school: they don't want to rock the boat. Whereas boys are more willing to. This is often articulated in a sociological phenomenon (i.e. "girls have higher social expectations placed upon them to be well behaved") but I am arguing it from a biological framework as well. This is further exemplified in female mate selection. Women want the man all the other women want even if they previously were not attracted to that man. Simply finding out other women want him makes her want him.
More data:
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The women were asked to rate how attractive they found each image before being shown the average rating given by the rest of the group.
Interestingly, when the women were asked to re-rate each image shortly after, their answer changed in favour of the social information.
On average, a participant changed their initial rating by around 13 per cent when rating the attractiveness of men’s faces depending on what other women had said.
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women-men-relationships-more-attractive-dating-romance-university-study-a8185026.html
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ewomen performed significantly better and were more prudent in identifying norm violations while being confident in their ability to follow social norms better when compared to men — who had limited abilities when it came to an understanding and following rules. Similar findings have been confirmed by different research investigations across the globe, especially in the context of following norms during the covid-19 pandemic.
https://feminisminindia.com/2022/07/06/women-are-better-rule-followers-than-men-but-what-does-it-get-them/
Fascinating. Women care more about female opinion and consensus more than men care about male consensus.
And this brings us to Camille Paglia, a woman that describes herself as transgender and never felt female in her entire life.
https://youtu.be/uzGRChFh4iw
https://youtu.be/HrscwJYO8G8
"There's no female Mozart because there's no female Jack the Ripper." Wow.
It's also interesting how she's right. Men obsess in a way women don't. Women can be highly talented, often more than men, but women are less selfish and more willing to give up a pursuit. This is why you see so many career women give up their careers and settle down with a man. Yeah, they live a less rich life but she's happy. Men though. Men obsess and get tunnell visioned with our eye on the prize. This leads to an effect where we are selfish but we end up damn good in the things we obsess over.
There's a video, and I'll try to find it, where Camille expresses that women NEED female socialization like they need air to function and that research shows that women that have a strong female social network tend to get breast cancer at lower rates. Men aren't like that. We like our bros but socialization like air? No way man.
https://youtu.be/pwXudI2iojs
From a biological perspective this is all fascinating AF to me.
Post by: Nintex on April 21, 2023, 04:58:23 AM
Post by: Himu on April 21, 2023, 05:05:43 AM
She has a mans soyface so maybe she's right?
She's in her 70's here.
Here she is in the 90's.
(https://i.imgur.com/5Gbs3Eh.jpg)
I had to compare her to one of my muses, Susan Sontag, and Susan absolute disses her. Just WOW the rivalry between the two of them.
https://youtu.be/7Mmi03G5oV0
1:28 lmfao
Post by: Himu on April 21, 2023, 05:42:55 AM
I am obsessed with this woman.This may be the best thing she has written: https://www.bu.edu/arion/files/2017/09/Arion-Camille-Paglia-Junkbonds-Corporate-Raiders.pdf
http://gos.sbc.edu/p/paglia.html
Linked on this:
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/camille-paglia-jews-and-feminism
This lady is based.
Post by: Uncle on April 21, 2023, 06:37:07 AM
She also extrapolates on what I said a few months ago about women being followers and men being more natural loners, often to their detriment. Women seek female companionship and acceptance far more than men seek male companionship and acceptance. This is why girls are often so well behaved at school: they don't want to rock the boat. Whereas boys are more willing to. This is often articulated in a sociological phenomenon (i.e. "girls have higher social expectations placed upon them to be well behaved") but I am arguing it from a biological framework as well. This is further exemplified in female mate selection. Women want the man all the other women want even if they previously were not attracted to that man. Simply finding out other women want him makes her want him.
More data:QuoteThe women were asked to rate how attractive they found each image before being shown the average rating given by the rest of the group.
Interestingly, when the women were asked to re-rate each image shortly after, their answer changed in favour of the social information.
On average, a participant changed their initial rating by around 13 per cent when rating the attractiveness of men’s faces depending on what other women had said.
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women-men-relationships-more-attractive-dating-romance-university-study-a8185026.htmlQuoteewomen performed significantly better and were more prudent in identifying norm violations while being confident in their ability to follow social norms better when compared to men — who had limited abilities when it came to an understanding and following rules. Similar findings have been confirmed by different research investigations across the globe, especially in the context of following norms during the covid-19 pandemic.
https://feminisminindia.com/2022/07/06/women-are-better-rule-followers-than-men-but-what-does-it-get-them/
Fascinating. Women care more about female opinion and consensus more than men care about male consensus.
is this about socialization and identifying with a group, or could it just be more about assertiveness and conviction?
like, not adjusting your answer because you want to socialize and side with other women, but because the fact that others rated the individual higher makes you call into question your own opinion, and with your low self-confidence you crumble, and say "since I'm an outlier from the data I must've been mistaken"
meanwhile the men are like "why are you telling me what other men think? they're fuckin wrong, she's a 2/10, they can have her"
Post by: Himu on April 21, 2023, 06:41:38 AM
She also extrapolates on what I said a few months ago about women being followers and men being more natural loners, often to their detriment. Women seek female companionship and acceptance far more than men seek male companionship and acceptance. This is why girls are often so well behaved at school: they don't want to rock the boat. Whereas boys are more willing to. This is often articulated in a sociological phenomenon (i.e. "girls have higher social expectations placed upon them to be well behaved") but I am arguing it from a biological framework as well. This is further exemplified in female mate selection. Women want the man all the other women want even if they previously were not attracted to that man. Simply finding out other women want him makes her want him.
More data:QuoteThe women were asked to rate how attractive they found each image before being shown the average rating given by the rest of the group.
Interestingly, when the women were asked to re-rate each image shortly after, their answer changed in favour of the social information.
On average, a participant changed their initial rating by around 13 per cent when rating the attractiveness of men’s faces depending on what other women had said.
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women-men-relationships-more-attractive-dating-romance-university-study-a8185026.htmlQuoteewomen performed significantly better and were more prudent in identifying norm violations while being confident in their ability to follow social norms better when compared to men — who had limited abilities when it came to an understanding and following rules. Similar findings have been confirmed by different research investigations across the globe, especially in the context of following norms during the covid-19 pandemic.
https://feminisminindia.com/2022/07/06/women-are-better-rule-followers-than-men-but-what-does-it-get-them/
Fascinating. Women care more about female opinion and consensus more than men care about male consensus.
is this about socialization and identifying with a group, or could it just be more about assertiveness and conviction?
like, not adjusting your answer because you want to socialize and side with other women, but because the fact that others rated the individual higher makes you call into question your own opinion, and with your low self-confidence you crumble, and say "since I'm an outlier from the data I must've been mistaken"
meanwhile the men are like "why are you telling me what other men think? they're fuckin wrong, she's a 2/10, they can have her"
I think it's both socialization and biology because women apparently exhibit these behaviors around the whole world. It's not just American women that act this way.
Women just tend to be more concerned with what others - and especially women - think. This is good in that it makes them more empathetic, but also bad in that makes them more self conscious.
Check this out..
https://www.apa.org/monitor/dec04/women
Post by: benjipwns on April 21, 2023, 07:19:44 AM
http://gos.sbc.edu/p/paglia.htmlThis is amusing because three decades later she was clearly wrong about the fascists losing their power. :lol
Additionally, her mention of Germaine Greer is fun because she's now condemned as an enemy of feminism for being a TERF.
Lastly, I didn't expect a 32 year old speech to contain Joanne's Genocide denial:
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We cannot be misusing this word. We cannot condemn as bigotry everything that we don't agree with. Words like bigotry have to go. Or you don't get enough money for AIDS: "Genocide!" When you use words like this--this is what they were shouting up in Kennebunkport when Bush was on vacation on Labor Day--"Genocide!" Now what does this do? I mean, you totally destroy the true meaning of genocide as it was authentically embodied under Hitler. That's what you do. You destroy meanings, you anesthetize people, and you turn people off. You turn the mind off. You kill the brain. We cannot have this. We cannot have this abuse of language going on.:jeanluc
Post by: Nintex on April 21, 2023, 10:13:03 AM
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you totally destroy the true meaning of genocide as it was authentically embodied under Hitler."Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?"
Post by: james on April 21, 2023, 01:23:49 PM
If you scroll down theres video of her getting destroyed by the ball
Post by: james on April 21, 2023, 01:40:20 PM
Post by: james on April 21, 2023, 05:58:21 PM
https://twitter.com/stevanzetti/status/1649457316272504848
Post by: HaughtyFrank on April 22, 2023, 10:43:03 AM
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The Bud Light senior marketing executive behind the controversial Dylan Mulvaney ad campaign has taken a leave of absence, according to a report.
Alissa Heinerscheid, vice president of marketing for the popular beer, will be replaced by Budweiser global marketing VP Todd Allen, AdAge reported on Friday.
Heinerscheid has led the brand since June. It’s unclear if her replacement will be permanent.
(...)
A day before Mulvaney announced the partnership, Heinerscheid was interviewed on the podcast “Make Yourself At Home,” where she discussed her work in transforming the Bud Light brand from its “fratty” and “out of touch” humor to a beer company that embraces inclusivity.
https://nypost.com/2023/04/21/bud-light-replaces-marketing-exec-behind-dylan-mulvaney-partnership-report/
I really don't care much about budweiser one way or the other, but I always find it weird when companies deliberately move away from their core audience and are then surprised when that old audience gets upset. Wouldn't it have been smarter to release a new beer brand that's specifically targeting liberals? :idont
Post by: Potato on April 22, 2023, 04:04:27 PM
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she discussed her work in transforming the Bud Light brand from its “fratty” and “out of touch” humor to a beer company that embraces inclusivity.
Clearly her opinion about her own success was wrong. No transformation took place in anyone's mind but her own. Some basic market research would have told her this. It takes more than one shitty "celebrity" endorsement to transform a brand. These things usually take years to achieve.
Post by: benjipwns on April 22, 2023, 08:25:09 PM
Post by: benjipwns on April 22, 2023, 10:10:07 PM
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on April 23, 2023, 06:57:55 AM
QuoteThe Bud Light senior marketing executive behind the controversial Dylan Mulvaney ad campaign has taken a leave of absence, according to a report.
Alissa Heinerscheid, vice president of marketing for the popular beer, will be replaced by Budweiser global marketing VP Todd Allen, AdAge reported on Friday.
Heinerscheid has led the brand since June. It’s unclear if her replacement will be permanent.
(...)
A day before Mulvaney announced the partnership, Heinerscheid was interviewed on the podcast “Make Yourself At Home,” where she discussed her work in transforming the Bud Light brand from its “fratty” and “out of touch” humor to a beer company that embraces inclusivity.
https://nypost.com/2023/04/21/bud-light-replaces-marketing-exec-behind-dylan-mulvaney-partnership-report/
I really don't care much about budweiser one way or the other, but I always find it weird when companies deliberately move away from their core audience and are then surprised when that old audience gets upset. Wouldn't it have been smarter to release a new beer brand that's specifically targeting liberals? :idont
"Clearly, this well paying job that I took was for a product I have barely disguised contempt for, so I decided to jettison the existing consumers, who, lets face it, are little more than scum, so that the next time I am talking about myself at a gathering my product will have a little more panache and others will more fully appreciate how brilliant at my job I am"
:ego :snob
Post by: james on April 25, 2023, 11:30:06 AM
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The McConneys reported the situation to local police in November and surrendered the boy’s iPhone after discovering explicit text messages between the boy and a man believed to have gone by @HunterFloofyFox on Twitter.
In tweets reviewed by NBC News, the accused adult identified as a “map” — a common online abbreviation for “minor-attracted person.” @HunterFloofyFox excitedly referred to the teen as “my lamb.” Both the teen and the Hunter Fox account made frequent references to the online furry community — a group of people who roleplay as anthropomorphized animal characters. Hunter Fox repeatedly talked about a trip he said the two would go on together.
Twenty-five days before the abduction, police sent a search warrant to Twitter to learn more information about the man police believe was grooming the teen. But they misspelled the username.
When the police corrected the error several weeks later, Twitter did not immediately respond, police said.
Five days later, the teen was abducted, according to prosecutors and the McConneys.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/25/a-13-year-old-boy-was-groomed-publicly-on-twitter-and-kidnapped-despite-numerous-chances-to-stop-it.html
Post by: Nintex on April 25, 2023, 01:01:53 PM
:wut
Post by: HardcoreRetro on April 25, 2023, 01:08:04 PM
Post by: NekoFever on April 25, 2023, 02:28:56 PM
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A consequence of using bowel in vaginoplasty is mucus production which provides moisture and lubrication.
:trigger
Post by: Nintex on April 25, 2023, 02:50:00 PM
https://twitter.com/townhallcom/status/1650929265871843329 (https://twitter.com/townhallcom/status/1650929265871843329)
Post by: james on April 25, 2023, 03:10:46 PM
Post by: BIONIC on April 25, 2023, 03:12:17 PM
I thought one of the replies might have been bullshit, but no, I found it in the medical literature:QuoteA consequence of using bowel in vaginoplasty is mucus production which provides moisture and lubrication.
:trigger
:drool :mouf :horny
Post by: HaughtyFrank on April 25, 2023, 03:15:02 PM
https://twitter.com/FlexionPlease/status/1650933569068343329
Post by: Nintex on April 25, 2023, 06:29:58 PM
Post by: D3RANG3D on April 25, 2023, 06:36:40 PM
Post by: Nintex on April 25, 2023, 06:42:47 PM
Now what do I do.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on April 25, 2023, 06:48:28 PM
https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1650937784285143070 (https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1650937784285143070)
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The first rule: "When an enemy is down and can’t respond, you can’t keep shooting at them."
Nope.
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The second rule: "Bots that don’t fire unprovoked are considered civilians, and you can’t target or harm them."
Nope.
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The third rule: "In any given game map, houses, schools, or hospitals are considered safe zones that you cannot harm. When fighting in these spaces, you must do everything you can to avoid damage."
Nope.
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The fourth rule: "If you have an unused med kit that works on others, you must give it to those who need it—be they friendly or enemy."
Nope.
I guess I’m a war criminal :trumps
Post by: Nintex on April 25, 2023, 06:57:51 PM
Post by: james on April 25, 2023, 07:44:23 PM
Post by: team filler on April 25, 2023, 09:24:18 PM
PS: the rules of engagement state that teabagging is completely fair, completely legal :trumps
Post by: BIONIC on April 25, 2023, 09:47:02 PM
:science
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on April 25, 2023, 10:24:51 PM
yes pls
Post by: benjipwns on April 25, 2023, 10:30:41 PM
I hate these stories, there was a similar one about how Facebook didn't "stop" some woman from being trafficked. It's not incumbent on others to drop everything and address your concerns, especially when you give them wrong information, nor is it their fault if something they have no control over happens later and they didn't "stop it" because they couldn't do anything. It's definitely not incumbent on others to be as paranoid as you are even if it does turn out that everyone is out to get you.QuoteTwenty-five days before the abduction, police sent a search warrant to Twitter to learn more information about the man police believe was grooming the teen. But they misspelled the username.
When the police corrected the error several weeks later, Twitter did not immediately respond, police said.
Five days later, the teen was abducted, according to prosecutors and the McConneys.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/25/a-13-year-old-boy-was-groomed-publicly-on-twitter-and-kidnapped-despite-numerous-chances-to-stop-it.html
Frankly, I applaud the companies when they ignore dumb requests for user information.
edit: Just realized it's another instance of people wanting corporations to be parents.
Post by: Potato on April 25, 2023, 11:52:08 PM
https://twitter.com/ask_aubry/status/1650717985890263041 (https://twitter.com/ask_aubry/status/1650717985890263041)Imagine looking that manly and still accusing others of being trans...
:science
:gurl
Post by: BIONIC on April 26, 2023, 12:16:47 AM
Post by: benjipwns on April 26, 2023, 01:25:37 AM
Quote from: https://www.japantimes.co.jp/community/2023/04/24/voices/black-people-japan-need-talk/
“This made me question a lot about myself and how I am being (seen),” she told the room of maybe 75 to 100 people. “I didn’t really understand it until the past couple of years. I’ve pretty much stopped working full-time at Japanese companies since 2020, but even though I’m still working part-time, I don’t interact with so many people because I can’t take it. I don’t like it. Now, I prefer to do remote work as much as possible.”
Having issues with trusting your Japanese coworkers is definitely something that can affect your mental well-being when living here — before you even think about saying it, packing up and moving home is not always the answer.
What is the answer then? Maybe frank discussions like this.
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Panelist Jutauan Glass, a licensed mental health counselor from the United States, spoke about the unique set of challenges that people of African descent from the West face in this country.
“Americans have a different development of self-concept than Black people from other countries,” Glass said. “We have been malnourished, denied the privilege of self-love — starved, so to speak. So, we get here and as we begin to nourish that self-concept, we have to tease out different nuances and discoveries which often result in cognitive dissonance, when what you’ve learned is not what you’re experiencing in life.
“I think a lot of us struggle with that. And it gets magnified here.”
Glass also spoke about the challenges and pitfalls of assimilation. Anyone who is seeking to fit in with the culture here will be forced to ask themselves (and answer) some tough questions.
“How do I fit into this society? How do they see me, and how do I see myself?” Glass said, listing off some examples. “This is a whole new society (for us), but African Americans — we never quite even belonged to the one we came from!”
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Listening to Glass reminded me of why I’d attended the event in the first place and, for that matter, why I attend any events marketed as Afrocentric. It wasn’t solely for journalistic purposes. While there’s no shortage of love in the home I’ve made for myself here, outside validation is in short supply. And living in a community immersed in a people — many of whom perpetually see me as an outsider or guest at best (and a threat at worst) — often leaves my heart and mind craving for a community that sees me as just another member without needing to know me personally.:expert
“Passive aggression is much more prevalent in Japan. It’s a way of life,” Glass remarked at the event. “So when incidents occur, there’s a lot of discounting and dismissal of our expressions and feelings even more than in the U.S. Even by other Black people.
“Black Americans want to escape and forget that pain of being a Black American. So we lie to ourselves and say things like, ‘Oh, Japanese don’t see us as Black.’ But of course they see you as Black!… Because of the pain, we want to escape the truth. So some come here in an effort to assimilate, to try to run from us, to separate from us, from the pain of being Black. I’ve seen this in my short time here.”
That last point really got me thinking. I, too, have seen this pathology here (and back in the U.S., as well). People who — at least publicly — go way out of their way to distance themselves from anything that could be construed or even misconstrued as “self-victimization” or stereotypically “Black.” “Black” is a social construct, anyway, so why subscribe to any of it? I get it. And I see the benefits of this approach to life. Even when it’s a charade, it’s often rewarded, so I’ve always viewed it as a choice.
Glass then told the room that this is the reason why the panel was so important and why we need events like Let’s Talk About It.
“We need a space where we can validate one another’s experience — pain and, yes, anger,” she said. “Because it’s real. People need to know: It’s not just you. You are not alone.”
Post by: Potato on April 26, 2023, 01:51:11 AM
If that chick counts as manly then I must be super gay :fabulous
:jeanluc :takei
Post by: HaughtyFrank on April 26, 2023, 08:07:34 AM
I don't know why she's also shooting bras
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on April 26, 2023, 08:48:45 AM
Post by: james on April 26, 2023, 10:20:23 AM
what bud light thing?
Straight people drink full calorie beers
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on April 26, 2023, 03:00:54 PM
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_fit,f_auto,g_center,q_60,w_645/cb886e3a87fabe761145e74351606ff8.jpg)
:(
Post by: Boredfrom on April 26, 2023, 03:12:21 PM
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“Black Americans want to escape and forget that pain of being a Black American. So we lie to ourselves and say things like, ‘Oh, Japanese don’t see us as Black.’ But of course they see you as Black!… Because of the pain, we want to escape the truth. So some come here in an effort to assimilate, to try to run from us, to separate from us, from the pain of being Black. I’ve seen this in my short time here.”
That last point really got me thinking. I, too, have seen this pathology here (and back in the U.S., as well). People who — at least publicly — go way out of their way to distance themselves from anything that could be construed or even misconstrued as “self-victimization” or stereotypically “Black.” “Black” is a social construct, anyway, so why subscribe to any of it? I get it. And I see the benefits of this approach to life. Even when it’s a charade, it’s often rewarded, so I’ve always viewed it as a choice.
:kermit
Japan has a lot of racial and xenophobic issues… but the old racial self victimization stunt is not going to help there, specially when is clear that discrimination is not limited to darker colors of skin.
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“We need a space where we can validate one another’s experience — pain and, yes, anger,” she said. “Because it’s real. People need to know: It’s not just you. You are not alone.”
Your pain and anger is real, indeed. But is not going to come across as you think it going to do with other cultures racial perspectives, specially in a nation that is so desperate for homogenization and collectivism.
Post by: Potato on April 26, 2023, 03:40:18 PM
https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1650971053068263428Said unironically by people who call for boycotts of brands and products anytime anyone expresses even a modicum of wrongthink...
I don't know why she's also shooting bras
Post by: D3RANG3D on April 26, 2023, 03:41:13 PM
Post by: benjipwns on April 26, 2023, 05:43:03 PM
Post by: benjipwns on April 26, 2023, 07:11:19 PM
Post by: james on April 26, 2023, 11:15:23 PM
Post by: Himu on April 26, 2023, 11:37:58 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on April 27, 2023, 08:22:05 AM
lol
Post by: D3RANG3D on April 27, 2023, 01:51:07 PM
Post by: team filler on April 27, 2023, 03:59:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh-Qi6uJ8Dc:bow :bow :bow :ohhh :bow2 :bow2 :bow2 :bow2
Post by: james on April 27, 2023, 04:13:43 PM
Conservatives are the worst fucking people
https://yashar.substack.com/p/exclusive-video-reveals-steven-crowder
Post by: Himu on April 27, 2023, 04:23:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh-Qi6uJ8Dc
This video is stupid. It's a show about Baltimore. Of course it has a diverse, realistic cast.
Post by: D3RANG3D on April 27, 2023, 05:35:47 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on April 27, 2023, 06:15:45 PM
Truly confusing article. This comment sums it up well
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My mind is blown. That was probably fifteen hundred words about how stereotypes and attitudes about fat people are being promoted by...a character that isn’t fat.
Post by: Transhuman on April 27, 2023, 08:30:55 PM
Post by: D3RANG3D on April 27, 2023, 09:56:44 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/0wJxUTN.png)
spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: benjipwns on April 27, 2023, 11:43:43 PM
That's just it though. The worse the article is, the more people will click.But I enjoy making the mistake of actually reading the articles.
Post by: team filler on April 27, 2023, 11:44:25 PM
she's got some interesting things to say. she also fucked up though. there is no female mozart because there is also no other male mozart. just mozart himself.I am obsessed with this woman.This may be the best thing she has written: https://www.bu.edu/arion/files/2017/09/Arion-Camille-Paglia-Junkbonds-Corporate-Raiders.pdf
She also extrapolates on what I said a few months ago about women being followers and men being more natural loners, often to their detriment. Women seek female companionship and acceptance far more than men seek male companionship and acceptance. This is why girls are often so well behaved at school: they don't want to rock the boat. Whereas boys are more willing to. This is often articulated in a sociological phenomenon (i.e. "girls have higher social expectations placed upon them to be well behaved") but I am arguing it from a biological framework as well. This is further exemplified in female mate selection. Women want the man all the other women want even if they previously were not attracted to that man. Simply finding out other women want him makes her want him.
More data:QuoteThe women were asked to rate how attractive they found each image before being shown the average rating given by the rest of the group.
Interestingly, when the women were asked to re-rate each image shortly after, their answer changed in favour of the social information.
On average, a participant changed their initial rating by around 13 per cent when rating the attractiveness of men’s faces depending on what other women had said.
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women-men-relationships-more-attractive-dating-romance-university-study-a8185026.htmlQuoteewomen performed significantly better and were more prudent in identifying norm violations while being confident in their ability to follow social norms better when compared to men — who had limited abilities when it came to an understanding and following rules. Similar findings have been confirmed by different research investigations across the globe, especially in the context of following norms during the covid-19 pandemic.
https://feminisminindia.com/2022/07/06/women-are-better-rule-followers-than-men-but-what-does-it-get-them/
Fascinating. Women care more about female opinion and consensus more than men care about male consensus.
And this brings us to Camille Paglia, a woman that describes herself as transgender and never felt female in her entire life.
https://youtu.be/uzGRChFh4iw
https://youtu.be/HrscwJYO8G8
"There's no female Mozart because there's no female Jack the Ripper." Wow.
It's also interesting how she's right. Men obsess in a way women don't. Women can be highly talented, often more than men, but women are less selfish and more willing to give up a pursuit. This is why you see so many career women give up their careers and settle down with a man. Yeah, they live a less rich life but she's happy. Men though. Men obsess and get tunnell visioned with our eye on the prize. This leads to an effect where we are selfish but we end up damn good in the things we obsess over.
There's a video, and I'll try to find it, where Camille expresses that women NEED female socialization like they need air to function and that research shows that women that have a strong female social network tend to get breast cancer at lower rates. Men aren't like that. We like our bros but socialization like air? No way man.
https://youtu.be/pwXudI2iojs
From a biological perspective this is all fascinating AF to me.
there is no male fiona apple and I place her higher than mozart tbh :rejoice
Post by: james on April 28, 2023, 02:57:34 PM
https://twitter.com/MattBinder/status/1652007131623596034
Post by: HardcoreRetro on April 28, 2023, 03:43:02 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on April 28, 2023, 05:47:16 PM
Post by: D3RANG3D on April 28, 2023, 05:48:23 PM
Post by: Uncle on April 28, 2023, 06:30:19 PM
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Post by: Nintex on April 28, 2023, 06:34:54 PM
Color me fucking surprised they course corrected :lol
Post by: benjipwns on April 28, 2023, 06:50:33 PM
lolThey're right, all the characters in Spacewar! were white. :ufup
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Post by: Potato on April 28, 2023, 08:20:59 PM
https://twitter.com/AfterlifeGames8/status/1650908906678517766This is your brain. This is your brain on Reeeeesetera.
Post by: benjipwns on April 29, 2023, 02:22:55 AM
Post by: D3RANG3D on April 29, 2023, 03:03:18 AM
Post by: Nintex on April 29, 2023, 07:32:41 AM
Post by: D3RANG3D on April 29, 2023, 08:20:16 PM
:doge
Post by: benjipwns on April 29, 2023, 09:47:40 PM
twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1652142130897272834[/url]Did The Post Millennial record this off their TV with a potato or what?
Post by: D3RANG3D on April 30, 2023, 06:03:17 AM
Post by: Nintex on April 30, 2023, 06:31:49 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejpWChFQwzEWhy the Mii Channel music :dead
:doge
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Just kill yourself
Post by: Transhuman on April 30, 2023, 07:20:11 PM
https://twitter.com/nytopinion/status/1649523782149652485
My body, my choice
Post by: benjipwns on May 01, 2023, 05:29:49 PM
https://twitter.com/antipersonhood/status/1652791265342177281
Post by: Nintex on May 01, 2023, 05:37:05 PM
"nom de guerre" Adolf
:snob
Post by: Potato on May 01, 2023, 06:59:19 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on May 01, 2023, 09:24:34 PM
Post by: Uncle on May 01, 2023, 09:27:14 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 01, 2023, 09:29:22 PM
I'm thankful for the Twitter context that Adolf refers to Adolf HitlerYeah, but who's Adolf Hitler? ???
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on May 01, 2023, 09:54:23 PM
https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/1652808613780389889
Post by: HaughtyFrank on May 02, 2023, 10:37:57 AM
:steel
Post by: team filler on May 02, 2023, 02:34:46 PM
Post by: BIONIC on May 02, 2023, 04:02:28 PM
:gun :walkaway
Fixed
Post by: team filler on May 03, 2023, 01:49:03 AM
:hesright
Post by: benjipwns on May 03, 2023, 02:08:48 AM
https://twitter.com/brainnotonyet/status/1653105190860382215
:era
Post by: james on May 04, 2023, 12:44:57 AM
The ban impacts some of the largest asset managers and banks in the country including BlackRock, Wells Fargo, JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America and State Street. BlackRock alone reported in April that it has a staggering $9.1 trillion in assets under management.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/republican-state-bans-more-dozen-woke-banks-doing-business
Post by: Himu on May 04, 2023, 12:06:34 PM
Post by: Uncle on May 04, 2023, 04:00:11 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/BDpGpZc.jpeg)
:rage
but wait...
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https://twitter.com/ahzoov/status/1654103618637668352
:picard
Post by: team filler on May 04, 2023, 04:18:32 PM
Post by: james on May 04, 2023, 08:37:04 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 04, 2023, 09:33:35 PM
not sure any racist fox news watchers are too concerned with how dark the black people they hate are tbh :dogeOne of my favorite things is how insistent social justice types are that bigots or fascists or whatever believe exactly whatever elaborate nonsense the social justice people think they do. "What do you mean they aren't constructing some complex detailed theory and just going with a gut 'don't like' feeling and 'sounds good' to proposals? Of course they're erecting a superstructure and they all subscribe to every part of it! That's just what fascists do!" :social
Post by: benjipwns on May 04, 2023, 10:25:36 PM
https://twitter.com/johnniejae/status/1653180545466245120
https://twitter.com/johnniejae/status/1653184598623281152
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https://twitter.com/CHRlSTITTIES/status/1653310020358926338
https://twitter.com/ComradeX02/status/1653423880025808897
https://twitter.com/ComradeX02/status/1653423880025808897
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https://twitter.com/ALLHAILSWISHA/status/1653829377946443777
https://twitter.com/MaxknOws2012/status/1653736332240273408
https://twitter.com/valleyboyvoice/status/1653805619126874112
https://twitter.com/sm0othbr4in/status/1653457417978429441
https://twitter.com/ALLHAILSWISHA/status/1653829377946443777
https://twitter.com/MaxknOws2012/status/1653736332240273408
https://twitter.com/valleyboyvoice/status/1653805619126874112
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Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 05, 2023, 03:41:38 AM
Post by: benjipwns on May 05, 2023, 04:04:38 AM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on May 05, 2023, 04:31:22 AM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 05, 2023, 04:44:05 AM
Post by: team filler on May 05, 2023, 05:31:05 AM
the chin tatt looks cool too 8)
Post by: Polident Hive on May 05, 2023, 05:49:29 AM
Karl Lagerguy, allegedly dead, looked like Albert Wesker with a botox addiction. I guess he made clothing or something.
Post by: team filler on May 05, 2023, 08:32:03 AM
Post by: BIONIC on May 05, 2023, 09:44:52 AM
I read about that guy before :doge
Trying to find some pointers for your own armed cult?
Post by: team filler on May 05, 2023, 11:36:24 PM
Post by: Nintex on May 06, 2023, 12:06:32 PM
And thats when he learned that he should take the car instead :kermit
Post by: Potato on May 06, 2023, 06:58:30 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on May 06, 2023, 09:25:32 PM
https://twitter.com/TheAuditPodcast/status/1654499147473383436
:whatisthis
Post by: benjipwns on May 06, 2023, 09:41:21 PM
There's also something about the subtly off nature of that classroom shot a few seconds in that makes it look more like it's a German classroom (I know it's not the German flag, but do you think the audience for this knows that?) than the disgusting gays harming our children by accosting a whopping six of them with a way too large flag.
Post by: benjipwns on May 07, 2023, 12:44:06 AM
(https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/345225198_535919681842704_4194371669552699372_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=36a2c1&_nc_ohc=BG9W1UYSw9wAX9746KN&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=00_AfBjP_EDrypzCKmP5BirNn1zPJ8UsTCIxOzEi7IVKi6IOw&oe=645B2AF8)
https://twitter.com/deesnider/status/1654870802255470594
Post by: Potato on May 07, 2023, 12:54:03 AM
Post by: benjipwns on May 07, 2023, 01:03:29 AM
Post by: Potato on May 07, 2023, 01:18:54 AM
Post by: benjipwns on May 07, 2023, 01:28:22 AM
Quote from: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/05/06/bill-gates-maricopa-county-arizona-ptsd/
Arizona official targeted by election deniers now struggles with PTSD
First came the misinformation. Then the relentless criticism and violent threats. Under attack, the county official struggled to cope with his anger.
PHOENIX — Anger and resentment welled inside the local leader as he surveyed the mourners at his friend’s funeral reception last year.
Bill Gates, 51, a lifelong Republican elected to the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors, stood with his wife and a friend and ticked off the names of those gathered around them who had betrayed him, their party and their country.
Gates stewed that they had done nothing as he and other leaders in Arizona’s most populous county faced relentless criticism, violent threats and online harassment for upholding the results of the 2020 presidential election. They helped spread baseless conspiracies about the voting process that turned him and his colleagues into targets. They stood by as his family lived in fear and briefly fled their home.
Because of their actions and inactions, Gates said, his integrity had been questioned. He was labeled a traitor who should be shot or hung. One person wrote on social media that his daughters should be raped. He worried his own parents, avid Fox News viewers, might believe the lies about him.
At the reception, Gates began wildly waving his arms as he ranted. He was out of control and on the verge of disrupting the solemn gathering. His friend walked away. His wife, Pam, grabbed his arm tightly and shook him.
“What the hell are you doing?” she asked. “You’ve got to stop this. Stop it!”
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The fliers had also been distributed to his neighbors. He and his family suddenly felt unsafe in their own home.
One daughter asked how people with such vicious tactics knew where they lived. Another, who is Ugandan and Black, was devastated that the flier equated her father’s support of the mask mandate to slavery. His third daughter was unable to sleep that night and many more nights to come.
“That’s when everything changed,” Gates recalled.
He and his wife told the kids not to open the front door and to keep a close eye on their surroundings. Gates began fielding phone calls and texts from neighbors about suspicious cars and strangers outside of their home, including one who took photos. When far-right activists posted his personal information online that summer — and several more times over the next two years — he or his wife would rush home to ensure the girls were not alone.
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Gates worried his family may not be safe in their home. He had been labeled a “traitor” and worried a mob might come for him.
“We knew we were ground zero” in Maricopa County, he recalled.
He booked a rental home for what he and his wife called a family “staycation.” But his daughters knew they were hiding out. He worried about what this traumatic experience was doing to their childhood. But he hoped the attempted coup would be a wake-up call for leaders in his party who had endorsed or even echoed Trump’s rhetoric.
In the weeks that followed, strangers attacked him and his family on social media. They checked in on each other frequently, and altered their schedules so they weren’t alone for extended periods. Gates and his wife made sure their close friends had their daughters’ phone numbers in case they needed help.
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He worked the phones in search of allies. Twitter filled with an avalanche of vitriolic posts demanding his arrest. “Corrupt dirtbag pedophile supporting maggot,” one read. “You don’t speak for REAL CONSTITUENTS,” read another.
The state senate vote was planned for Feb. 8, 2021. Gates went to the state capitol to lobby lawmakers, then prepared for his arrest.
He texted his family: “I love you guys more than you can imagine. I’m sorry I have put you through all this. Just remember that it is always right to do what’s right. We will get through this. Thanks for keeping me strong and loving me through all this.”
His daughters had been frantically checking their phones for an update and interpreted his text as news that the Senate had held him in contempt. One daughter collapsed in a high school hallway. Another, who had just finished an Italian class at an out-of-state college, began sobbing.
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It was later, at her funeral reception, that he struggled to control his anger as people around him struck up small talk. Why, he wondered in loops that played in his mind, had they stayed silent?
Then one prominent Republican casually said he found election denialism was “all very boring.” Gates saw red. “F--- you,” he thought.
Suddenly he was ranting, and his wife was trying to pull him back from the brink.
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Just the other day, a worker came to his home to fix a leaky pipe and wore a red “Make America Great Again” hat. Gates felt anger swelling in his chest.Do you think the media is aware when their glamorous victim profiles make the person merely look completely unhinged and delusional? :lol
“It was a trigger to see that hat in my house,” he said.
Gates left the room and took some deep breaths.
Post by: Nintex on May 07, 2023, 05:05:08 AM
We need to stop the groomers.A papercraft Iron Dome :dead
https://twitter.com/TheAuditPodcast/status/1654499147473383436
:whatisthis
Post by: HaughtyFrank on May 07, 2023, 08:35:21 AM
I get why they protest but blocking the subway seems kind of dumb? Will only frustrate average citizens and it's not like anything about the subway system was at fault
Post by: Nintex on May 07, 2023, 08:51:17 AM
:hesright
Post by: NekoFever on May 07, 2023, 11:15:32 AM
How long until the messy and acrimonious divorce of the LGB from the T? Can't be long now with the rate they're alienating even their longtime allies.
In my experience it’s not uncommon for older (40+) LGB people to wish they’d fuck off and stop making them all look like nutters.
Post by: Boredfrom on May 07, 2023, 04:01:58 PM
https://twitter.com/deesnider/status/1654566791752962049
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https://twitter.com/deesnider/status/1654870802255470594
:salute
I like how also said he was not going to be alt righter, just that trans activists are spouting a bunch of nonsense.
Post by: Potato on May 07, 2023, 05:37:43 PM
Post by: Nintex on May 07, 2023, 07:33:04 PM
:thinking
Post by: benjipwns on May 07, 2023, 10:33:43 PM
:hmm
Post by: benjipwns on May 08, 2023, 02:09:06 AM
:hmm
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Post by: james on May 08, 2023, 11:42:18 AM
By elevating idiotic right-wing takes, Elon might be giving the idiot pundit-class a dose of reality.
https://twitter.com/RottenInDenmark/status/1655587714643656704
Post by: D3RANG3D on May 08, 2023, 08:07:10 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on May 09, 2023, 07:55:17 AM
Post by: Uncle on May 09, 2023, 09:33:41 AM
like rowling boycotters who publicly burn her books
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on May 09, 2023, 10:53:10 AM
this is part of the advertisement and they are deep undercover
Post by: benjipwns on May 09, 2023, 08:46:18 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FvsQXHIaUAcfpIC?format=jpg&name=small)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FvsQXG9acAAPAj1?format=jpg&name=small)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FvsQXHFacAQULQT?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Post by: benjipwns on May 09, 2023, 11:45:22 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 10, 2023, 12:12:45 AM
What did they mean by this? :hmm
Post by: Potato on May 10, 2023, 02:33:42 AM
Culture wars can be funny too
Post by: Nintex on May 10, 2023, 11:36:10 AM
What a racist
Post by: james on May 11, 2023, 01:12:43 PM
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1656667457430626305
Post by: benjipwns on May 11, 2023, 02:06:53 PM
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Under the final guidance issued Thursday, all prospective blood donors will answer a series of individual, risk-based questions to determine eligibility.FASCISM IS HERE :social
All prospective donors who report having a new sexual partner, more than one sexual partner in the past three months, or anal sex in the past three months, would be deferred for three months to reduce the likelihood of donations by individuals with new or recent HIV infection, FDA said.
Post by: benjipwns on May 11, 2023, 02:09:06 PM
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Post by: Uncle on May 11, 2023, 02:11:50 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 11, 2023, 02:23:52 PM
I love that they won a Pulitzer Prize when all their writing is equally bad and simplistic.
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CriticismIIRC there was one of the reviews making the rounds from a few months back where it didn't even understand the book's premise and it was just random paragraphs about something else.
Andrea Long Chu of New York magazine
For book reviews that scrutinize authors as well as their works, using multiple cultural lenses to explore some of society’s most fraught topics.
edit: Oh, forgot Chu was the writer of this classic:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/24/opinion/sunday/vaginoplasty-transgender-medicine.html
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Post by: Nintex on May 11, 2023, 03:53:12 PM
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on May 11, 2023, 04:47:47 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FvfZr0HXoAI0cEC?format=jpg&name=small)
What did they mean by this? :hmm
I'd assume "Siri post to Twitter, hashtag insist on peace" in a swiss accent :idont
Post by: HaughtyFrank on May 11, 2023, 06:11:30 PM
I've felt for a while, maybe since I first saw it, that the "expectant asshole" part is maybe the least offensive part of that definition of barest essentials of femaleness. :lol
I love that they won a Pulitzer Prize when all their writing is equally bad and simplistic.QuoteCriticismIIRC there was one of the reviews making the rounds from a few months back where it didn't even understand the book's premise and it was just random paragraphs about something else.
Andrea Long Chu of New York magazine
For book reviews that scrutinize authors as well as their works, using multiple cultural lenses to explore some of society’s most fraught topics.
edit: Oh, forgot Chu was the writer of this classic:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/24/opinion/sunday/vaginoplasty-transgender-medicine.html
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I think what they're trying to do is to redefine femaleness, completely away from gender and sex just declare it as submissiveness and I really don't get what the goal there is.
https://twitter.com/MattyBoySwag143/status/1656328806544596993
https://twitter.com/MattyBoySwag143/status/1656329155733082114
Post by: benjipwns on May 11, 2023, 09:39:59 PM
I think what they're trying to do is to redefine femaleness, completely away from gender and sex just declare it as submissiveness and I really don't get what the goal there is.Look, lots of academics are really stupid.
Unfortunately rather than keeping them in academia where they can't harm anyone we've spent about a century of listening to academics who said academics should be given unchecked power. The constant and manifest failure of this just convinced academics that the problem was the wrong academics were given power. Meanwhile some nihilists stared into the abyss of the rational conclusions about and obvious results of power and decided that the problem was how everything but language is meaningless and therefore controlling language gave you power. Not a single one stopped to ask how language wasn't also meaningless by their standards and also therefore not something an elite can control either. (They is why they hate sarcasm btw.) At no point in any of this did (or has) anyone question whether trying to assume absolute power was in itself immoral. Of course a narcissistic "intellectual" "elite" that thinks anything it doesn't know is simple to understand everything about never questions that they should rule over the unwashed. Are you seriously going to question Plato's divine science (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_(Plato)#Book_II%E2%80%93IV:_The_city_and_the_soul)? They have filthy souls, of course they can't see God's plan about what femaleness is and will remain ignorant of His Discourses unless they're forced by those who do Hear.
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Post by: HaughtyFrank on May 12, 2023, 09:31:31 PM
:lucas
Post by: chronovore on May 12, 2023, 10:37:53 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 13, 2023, 01:20:10 AM
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on May 13, 2023, 05:49:25 AM
https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1657120970086273047
:lucas
theron fucking megyn
yes
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on May 13, 2023, 05:50:19 AM
https://twitter.com/michaelmalice/status/1657111076893347856
It's a way to show they can't bleed.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on May 13, 2023, 05:50:30 AM
Post by: Uncle on May 13, 2023, 08:38:04 PM
Post by: chronovore on May 13, 2023, 10:10:53 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on May 13, 2023, 10:14:50 PM
https://twitter.com/thenation/status/1657387470915268609
Not because it actually makes great arguments but because it never talks about the one thing you'd think that matters, do trans athletes retain an advantage or not? Instead it's entirely focused on culture and white supremacy for some reason, trying to find any other reason than fairness for why anyone would be against trans athletes in the women's division.
It's weird how it seems impossible to just have a normal debate about this
Post by: chronovore on May 13, 2023, 10:20:09 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 13, 2023, 10:44:11 PM
Found this article interesting
Quote from: https://www.thenation.com/article/society/womens-swimming-transphobia-lia-thomas/
swimming’s history is decidedly anti-Black. According to a 2021 USA Swimming report, of its 331,206 year-round athletes, 35.5 percent (117,423) identified as white, while only 1 percent (3,440) identified themselves as Black or African American and 2.4 percent (7,933) said they were Hispanic or Latinx (21 percent did not respond to the ethnicity question at all). “I would say the sport has shifted marginally over time but it traditionally is a very white, very elite sport,” says Schuyler Bailar, the first openly trans athlete on a men’s team in the NCAA and founder of Lanechanger.com. “I experienced swimming as an outsider in many ways. Many of my friends were white—my whole team was white.”
Throughout much of the 20th century, public pools were sites of segregation and racial violence. Not only were Black Americans and other people of color prevented from having access to pools, but swimming as a sport was seen as perfect for showing off whiteness and promoting traditional ideas of femininity.
“The sheer white, middle-classness of the sport of swimming [impacted] how it reproduced white, heteronormative, ‘traditional’ American values,” says Matthew Hodler, assistant professor of sports media and communication at the University of Rhode Island and a former swimmer. “It was one of the sports middle-class white women were allowed to participate in earlier on because it shaped the ‘right’ kind of body for women. It was considered a ‘clean’ sport—they could be graceful in the water. It is bound up in these traditional femininities.”
Women swimmers were sexualized from the very beginning of the sport. In the 1920s, during the period following the First World War when women were really first allowed to participate more broadly in sporting events, women swimmers became some of the first athletes to be treated as heterosexual sex objects, as photos of them in their swimsuits could be printed in newspapers under the guise of covering women’s sports.
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However, their experience with competing against athletes who were using performance-enhancing drugs was not the only trauma that swimmers of that generation suffered. Swimming had (and still has) a rampant sexual abuse problem. Before turning her attention to targeting transgender women and girls, Hogshead-Makar had been public about her sexual assault history and had nobly dedicated herself to rooting out sexual abuse from the sport. She is a Title IX lawyer who used her expertise to found Champion Women, a legal advocacy group for female athletes, and to advocate for stricter protections for girls in sports. Diana Nyad, another well-known swimmer, has also been public about her sexual assault and has recently come out against transgender inclusion in the sport.
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USAS has more white women on staff than white men, according to their website. It is probably telling, considering USAS’s discriminatory policies and culture, that they co-opted white, cis women as “diversity,” when it is often that very demographic that contributes to exclusionary sporting culture. (According to the website, the majority of people of color on staff work in DEI and community engagement positions).:era
The Women’s Sport Policy Working Group held a meeting in January 2022 that included “heavy hitters” within US swimming circles, according to a Sports Illustrated story by Robert Sanchez. Among them: former Olympic swimmers, current and former NCAA champions, and various coaches, parents, and USAS board members. Journalists were forbidden from naming any of the 250 attendees or attributing any quotes to them.
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Thomas found herself scrutinized in a particularly poisonous way. Her figure became the focus of obsessive, transphobic scrutiny, her every muscle denounced as an affront to “real” womanhood. (It’s worth noting that other muscular women who swim, like Katie Ledecky, are not subject to the same kinds of relentless critique.):doge
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Post by: benjipwns on May 14, 2023, 01:33:03 AM
Quote from: https://observer.com/2023/05/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-3-and-the-mcus-tradition-of-villainous-progressives/
‘Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3’ And The MCU’s Tradition of Villainous Progressives
Guardians's celebration of found family may feel like a show of support for queer people—particularly in the wake of Disney's battle with Florida Governor Ron DeSantis. But this is a movie that wants to sell tickets to everyone
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The truth is less defiant, though. Guardians of the Galaxy carefully avoids explicit queer themes even as it nods in their general direction. It also continues the MCU’s tradition of villainous progressives—utopian dreamers who want to change the world for the better, and end up just slaughtering people.
The film doesn’t show that Disney is determined to advance progressive goals. It shows mostly that Disney would rather avoid controversy and wants to sell tickets to everyone—even Ron.
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The MCU also has often distanced itself from progressive causes by making its villains thinly disguised progressives-gone-wrong. Thanos in Infinity War and End Game wants to eliminate half of the people in the universe as part of a misguided environmentalism; he thinks catastrophic population decline will leave more resources for all. Both Black Panther films frame White colonialist nations, like the United States, as the villains, to some degree. But then our Wakandan heroes spend most of the films fighting other people of color who want to retaliate against white supremacy too harshly.
The High Evolutionary is in that villainous tradition of twisted radicalism. He’s Black and disfigured, and claims to want to perfect society, a la Communist and utopian medlars. But his lust for perfection leads him to genocidal lengths, as he incinerates and exterminates all his sentient projects that don’t quite work out. His surgical experiments are treated with particular disgust, and there’s an uncomfortable resonance with the current moral panic targeting trans medical care.
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Gunn knows how to take a stand, if he wants. But Guardians does not. It’s carefully balanced and carefully distanced so that it can appeal to marginalized people looking for heroes without actually standing by them or naming any oppressors. When the Guardians get into a big group hug at the end of the film, it’s supposed to evoke love and solidarity. But it might better be characterized as the unity of capital, determined to offend no one and turn no one’s dollars away. Disney may be suing DeSantis, and they may well win. But they want his fanbase to come to the movies too, and so they give them a villain they can comfortably mock, and heroes who are carefully not queer.:fbm :goty2 :tocry :goldberg :jeanluc :mjcry :notlikethis :juchesad :existential
Post by: Uncle on May 14, 2023, 01:47:06 AM
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villainous progressives—utopian dreamers who want to change the world for the better, and end up just slaughtering people.
:mindblown
the best villains in fiction are always heroes of their own story, doing what they think is right and being dead wrong about it
cackling selfish morons who have no plan beyond "seize power" are completely played out and one dimensional
also by that definition you could include all kinds of villains, religious extremists who think they can save the most souls by converting society by force, and forge a utopia based on christian ideals...is that really a "villainous progressive?"
couldn't you say some of these Marvel character types are practically extremists of that sort, even if they don't mention religion?
isn't the idea of a "villainous progressive" an admission that progressivism can go too far, rather than just claiming that if it's not well-considered and results in negative outcomes (like half of all life being slaughtered), then it isn't really progressive to begin with?
Post by: benjipwns on May 14, 2023, 02:00:38 AM
Good people don't do bad things, that's what makes them good people. They intend good and therefore only do good. If they did bad things they would be bad people, not good people. This is pretty simple proven science and I'm not surprised a fascist conservative like yourself is trying to muddy the waters just like James Gunn, well known open Twitter user, is with his latest anti-queer capitalist propaganda.
Post by: benjipwns on May 14, 2023, 02:11:16 AM
QuoteThe MCU also has often distanced itself from progressive causes by making its villains thinly disguised progressives-gone-wrong. Thanos in Infinity War and End Game wants to eliminate half of the people in the universe as part of a misguided environmentalism; he thinks catastrophic population decline will leave more resources for all. Both Black Panther films frame White colonialist nations, like the United States, as the villains, to some degree. But then our Wakandan heroes spend most of the films fighting other people of color who want to retaliate against white supremacy too harshly.
The High Evolutionary is in that villainous tradition of twisted radicalism. He’s Black and disfigured, and claims to want to perfect society, a la Communist and utopian medlars. But his lust for perfection leads him to genocidal lengths, as he incinerates and exterminates all his sentient projects that don’t quite work out. His surgical experiments are treated with particular disgust, and there’s an uncomfortable resonance with the current moral panic targeting trans medical care.
QuoteIt also continues the MCU’s tradition of villainous progressives—utopian dreamers who want to change the world for the better, and end up just slaughtering people.the best villains in fiction are always heroes of their own story, doing what they think is right and being dead wrong about it
cackling selfish morons who have no plan beyond "seize power" are completely played out and one dimensional
Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guardians_of_the_Galaxy_Vol._3#Cast
When asked by Rachel Lindsay of Extra about the character, Gunn referred to the High Evolutionary as the "cruelest MCU villain" to date the franchise has ever seen due to how he negatively impacts on the lives of Rocket and his fellow subject friends,[28] while Iwuji made sure along with Gunn to avoid giving the Evolutionary, at least intentionally, any sympathy unlike previous villains like Thanos or Killmonger, focusing under Gunn's orders on commenting in the character's single mindedness, narcissistic and zealous personality like the "most horrific" figures in history have been shown to be.[29]:hmm
Post by: Potato on May 14, 2023, 03:10:44 AM
Post by: Nintex on May 14, 2023, 04:04:38 AM
Lmao
Post by: Polident Hive on May 14, 2023, 04:51:57 AM
Post by: benjipwns on May 14, 2023, 05:20:30 AM
Then all these dummies tried to talk us into their multiverse horseshit as the next great storytelling frontier and how much "fun" we're supposed to be having with a multiverse where everyone alive had a traumatic five year time separation and each new "adventure" is about escalating existential cosmic horrors none of the writers have solutions for. Something which everyone completely ignores until somebody steps slightly out of formula in a non-superficial way and our "fans" tut-tut them for making things "too bleak" and "losing the fun and heroics" as Gunn is currently getting.
And then there's the unrelenting inconsistent reality of these "shared universes" that exist only as the main characters (of the moment) move through them. And while I'm on it another thing is how... :rage
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Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on May 14, 2023, 05:29:22 AM
E: top of page thanos writing with a pencil:
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Post by: HaughtyFrank on May 14, 2023, 05:50:40 AM
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on May 14, 2023, 05:53:36 AM
It's really about time movies portray the positive side of god complexes
It's called the nines.
Post by: Polident Hive on May 14, 2023, 06:01:11 AM
That was maybe the most nerd infuriating part of that whole "was Thanos right?" horseshit wankery. Really, we need to have more contempt for "Marvel fans" and self-proclaimed nerds in general praising how they scraped out the entire thematic core of the Infinity Gauntlet (and Thanos personally) for objectively stupid Malthusianism and low level Star Trek tier time travel nonsense. One of the saving graces of Snyder getting fired was he wasn't able to use lame ass time travel in a story with reality shaping powers like he also planned.
Then all these dummies tried to talk us into their multiverse horseshit as the next great storytelling frontier and how much "fun" we're supposed to be having with a multiverse where everyone alive had a traumatic five year time separation and each new "adventure" is about escalating existential cosmic horrors none of the writers have solutions for. Something which everyone completely ignores until somebody steps slightly out of formula in a non-superficial way and our "fans" tut-tut them for making things "too bleak" and "losing the fun and heroics" as Gunn is currently getting.
And then there's the unrelenting inconsistent reality of these "shared universes" that exist only as the main characters (of the moment) move through them. And while I'm on it another thing is how... :ragespoiler (click to show/hide):expert[close]
Unironically, reflecting on the last 80 of these movies in the past decade, come away thinking Zod in MoS is the best realized villain. How he’s by design, in text and in universe, one dimensional. How that single track purpose born from a eugenics forward culture feeds into every action he makes. How when he fails that purpose, he’s basically going for suicide by cop while causing as much despair to everyone else. Makes me wonder what Darkseid could’ve been. What I understand, the direction was inline with Grant Morrison’s take. With Darkseid being this manifestation of evil, a force of nature, one track in his own way. It’s an interesting contrast with the other villains, who have relatively relatable motivations, to see someone that’s unambiguously and unashamedly evil. Oh, you’re saying I should shove myself into the locker? Sure thing.
Post by: Uncle on May 14, 2023, 09:24:52 AM
They should’ve kept Thanos’s motivation as simping for Death, a big breasted skeleton lady, and erasing half of all life for her was his incel opus. Right after he created a female version of himself to make Death jealous or something. Now that would’ve been progressive.
(https://i.imgur.com/whYbGgm.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/ARL6Vkt.gif)
Post by: HaughtyFrank on May 14, 2023, 03:15:35 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 14, 2023, 05:24:19 PM
"As a Black Woman with natural red hair, I hope this movie is successful in every way."
:whatisthis
Post by: Nintex on May 14, 2023, 06:45:23 PM
These people are so fucking broken
Post by: D3RANG3D on May 14, 2023, 07:36:08 PM
Post by: team filler on May 14, 2023, 09:53:30 PM
reminds me of the hot ninja sluts in mortal kombat 8)
Post by: team filler on May 14, 2023, 11:39:55 PM
Post by: Potato on May 14, 2023, 11:47:40 PM
I like when girls wear the mask tbhfiller I love your ability to boil any issue down to its most simple form.
reminds me of the hot ninja sluts in mortal kombat 8)
:heartbeat :heartbeat :heartbeat :heartbeat :heartbeat :pimp
Post by: benjipwns on May 15, 2023, 01:47:43 AM
:science
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https://twitter.com/jncatron/status/1657857189287952387
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Post by: Nintex on May 15, 2023, 08:26:28 AM
Next I looked up the cheapest food item on Walmart.com and it's this sweet corn for just 50 cents:
]https://www.walmart.com/ip/Fresh-Sweet-Corn-on-the-Cob-1-each/44391430?athbdg=L1300&from=/shop/[...seo]
(https://www.walmart.com/ip/Fresh-Sweet-Corn-on-the-Cob-1-each/44391430?athbdg=L1300&from=/shop/[...seo)
I hope they like fighting over half a corn every day because this is some hunger games shit. :rogan
Post by: BIONIC on May 15, 2023, 08:43:23 AM
Post by: Nintex on May 15, 2023, 10:03:23 AM
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Post by: james on May 15, 2023, 01:54:49 PM
Post by: james on May 15, 2023, 02:28:40 PM
Miller Lite has gone woke, start purchasing cases so you can shoot at them
:drudge :drudge :drudge
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on May 15, 2023, 02:38:10 PM
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1658155322454728705
:whew :mouf
Post by: Nintex on May 15, 2023, 02:46:53 PM
Post by: BIONIC on May 15, 2023, 03:05:56 PM
:drudge :drudge :drudge
Miller Lite has gone woke, start purchasing cases so you can shoot at them
:drudge :drudge :drudge
Show us the angry tweets
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on May 15, 2023, 03:15:07 PM
the guy having to photoshop all that :rage
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Post by: HaughtyFrank on May 15, 2023, 03:43:00 PM
I don't think it will get people quite as angry since you'll find puritans on both the right and the left
Post by: Nintex on May 15, 2023, 03:52:17 PM
Post by: Uncle on May 15, 2023, 03:57:20 PM
they weren't strong enough to kill mighty mammoth so they were allowed the privilege of sitting around mixing plants and water so Ongo would have a cold one to crack open with the boys when he got back
:playa
Post by: Nintex on May 15, 2023, 04:22:32 PM
Post by: Potato on May 15, 2023, 05:05:59 PM
https://twitter.com/MythinformedMKE/status/1658105536972218369 (https://twitter.com/MythinformedMKE/status/1658105536972218369)Beer seems to be good for growing massive tiddies too. Those sweater puppies are desperate to get out. Nice one Miller.
I don't think it will get people quite as angry since you'll find puritans on both the right and the left
Post by: benjipwns on May 15, 2023, 08:24:44 PM
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anticipatory hypothetical outrage?
:isthis
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Post by: benjipwns on May 15, 2023, 10:03:04 PM
https://twitter.com/justinboldaji/status/1657588935781138432
Post by: benjipwns on May 15, 2023, 10:06:17 PM
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https://twitter.com/jruderman/status/1657864530540769280
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https://twitter.com/evilballerninja/status/1657858513467752448
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Post by: HaughtyFrank on May 16, 2023, 01:31:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bGliAP254Mhttps://twitter.com/lporiginalg/status/1658335253227012096
:maf
I don't know why anyone is hitching their flag to Cleopatra. She was literally part of a foreign dynasty ruling Egypt.
Post by: Nintex on May 16, 2023, 01:45:38 PM
Saving the princess from the demon king in my self-made Gundam transformer :ohyeah
Post by: james on May 16, 2023, 01:59:26 PM
Post by: Nintex on May 16, 2023, 04:18:35 PM
https://twitter.com/uvarebellion/status/1658475769839112194 (https://twitter.com/uvarebellion/status/1658475769839112194)
Free Palestine, Carbon Zero, Decolonize, No Police on campus. All in one protest. :dead
The only thing missing is the trans nonsense but they probably don't get along with the people calling for a intifada.
Post by: BIONIC on May 16, 2023, 04:27:06 PM
Post by: Potato on May 16, 2023, 05:08:24 PM
You could almost call her the original coloniser and white supremacist!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bGliAP254Mhttps://twitter.com/lporiginalg/status/1658335253227012096
:maf
I don't know why anyone is hitching their flag to Cleopatra. She was literally part of a foreign dynasty ruling Egypt.
Post by: Potato on May 16, 2023, 05:10:24 PM
The University of Amsterdam has been taken over by their radical left wing students and teachersI wonder how tempted they are to let them run it for a few weeks and watch the whole thing collapse before they get their degrees?
https://twitter.com/uvarebellion/status/1658475769839112194 (https://twitter.com/uvarebellion/status/1658475769839112194)
Free Palestine, Carbon Zero, Decolonize, No Police on campus. All in one protest. :dead
The only thing missing is the trans nonsense but they probably don't get along with the people calling for a intifada.
Post by: benjipwns on May 16, 2023, 05:48:53 PM
https://twitter.com/lporiginalg/status/1658335253227012096Paying attention to aggregated user review scores for random garbage media isn't stupid, it's the praxis of the vanguard.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on May 16, 2023, 06:35:39 PM
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Before the show’s premiere, the series was criticized by the Egyptian government and others who condemned the show for not portraying Cleopatra with white skin. Many accused the creators of “robbing” Egyptians of their history. James addressed the backlash on The Wayner Ayers podcast, saying, “I find it sad that people are either so self-loathing or so threatened by Blackness that they feel the need to do that, to separate Egypt from the rest of the continent.” The next day, she called the controversy “fundamentally racist” on Steph’s Packed Lunch and said Cleopatra’s race is “a very small part of the conversation, really.”https://decider.com/2023/05/15/queen-cleopatra-audience-score-review-bombed-rotten-tomatoes/
The response from the people who made this documentary has been just so crazy. Like how can you not see that this is textbook cultural appropriation made by a bunch of Americans and Brits while actual Egyptians just shake their heads?
Imagine some documentary declared that Nelson Mandela was actually Arab and then respond to critic with "I find it sad that people are so self loathing or so threatened by Arabs that they feel they need to do that"
As fucked up as the history of yellow-face,, black-face, brown-face etc. has been in hollywood, they still didn't go as far as claiming that Genghis Khan was actually a white dude when John Wayne played him.
Post by: Potato on May 16, 2023, 06:38:29 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on May 16, 2023, 06:43:51 PM
https://twitter.com/katienotopoulos/status/1658186756074659850
Post by: benjipwns on May 16, 2023, 09:54:56 PM
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https://twitter.com/HITCSevens/status/1658089752518639616
https://twitter.com/HITCSevens/status/1658102399611879427
https://twitter.com/HITCSevens/status/1658102399611879427
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Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on May 17, 2023, 04:43:18 AM
Anyway...
https://twitter.com/katienotopoulos/status/1658186756074659850
this is not the kissing I want to see from walhburgh
Post by: Nintex on May 17, 2023, 08:55:59 AM
I wonder how tempted they are to let them run it for a few weeks and watch the whole thing collapse before they get their degrees?The police removed the people wearing fortnite cosmetics caling for a mostly peaceful intifada from the premises
https://twitter.com/Matthijs85/status/1658795354534420480 (https://twitter.com/Matthijs85/status/1658795354534420480)
Post by: D3RANG3D on May 17, 2023, 11:12:59 AM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on May 17, 2023, 01:08:46 PM
Post by: Uncle on May 17, 2023, 01:46:32 PM
I really want to know who looks at that "fixed" version and thinks "yeah, that's a cool character"
(https://i.imgur.com/h0B6VUJ.png)
Post by: Nintex on May 17, 2023, 01:59:10 PM
Post by: HardcoreRetro on May 17, 2023, 02:55:04 PM
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on May 17, 2023, 03:19:16 PM
QuoteBefore the show’s premiere, the series was criticized by the Egyptian government and others who condemned the show for not portraying Cleopatra with white skin. Many accused the creators of “robbing” Egyptians of their history. James addressed the backlash on The Wayner Ayers podcast, saying, “I find it sad that people are either so self-loathing or so threatened by Blackness that they feel the need to do that, to separate Egypt from the rest of the continent.” The next day, she called the controversy “fundamentally racist” on Steph’s Packed Lunch and said Cleopatra’s race is “a very small part of the conversation, really.”https://decider.com/2023/05/15/queen-cleopatra-audience-score-review-bombed-rotten-tomatoes/
The response from the people who made this documentary has been just so crazy. Like how can you not see that this is textbook cultural appropriation made by a bunch of Americans and Brits while actual Egyptians just shake their heads?
Imagine some documentary declared that Nelson Mandela was actually Arab and then respond to critic with "I find it sad that people are so self loathing or so threatened by Arabs that they feel they need to do that"
As fucked up as the history of yellow-face,, black-face, brown-face etc. has been in hollywood, they still didn't go as far as claiming that Genghis Khan was actually a white dude when John Wayne played him.
Literally nobody gave a fuck when Bridgerton made the Queen of England black, because at no fucking point did anyone pretend Bridgerton is a documentary.
I also can't imagine a lot of black folks are super thrilled with the implication there's nobody black in history worth making a documentary about so they came up with this we wuz kangs fairy tale nonsense instead.
Post by: Potato on May 17, 2023, 05:48:19 PM
Bridgerton's clear success also puts to bed the notion that "alt-right chuds" are to blame for trash like Captain Marvel, Forespoken and other wokebait underperforming.QuoteBefore the show’s premiere, the series was criticized by the Egyptian government and others who condemned the show for not portraying Cleopatra with white skin. Many accused the creators of “robbing” Egyptians of their history. James addressed the backlash on The Wayner Ayers podcast, saying, “I find it sad that people are either so self-loathing or so threatened by Blackness that they feel the need to do that, to separate Egypt from the rest of the continent.” The next day, she called the controversy “fundamentally racist” on Steph’s Packed Lunch and said Cleopatra’s race is “a very small part of the conversation, really.”https://decider.com/2023/05/15/queen-cleopatra-audience-score-review-bombed-rotten-tomatoes/
The response from the people who made this documentary has been just so crazy. Like how can you not see that this is textbook cultural appropriation made by a bunch of Americans and Brits while actual Egyptians just shake their heads?
Imagine some documentary declared that Nelson Mandela was actually Arab and then respond to critic with "I find it sad that people are so self loathing or so threatened by Arabs that they feel they need to do that"
As fucked up as the history of yellow-face,, black-face, brown-face etc. has been in hollywood, they still didn't go as far as claiming that Genghis Khan was actually a white dude when John Wayne played him.
Literally nobody gave a fuck when Bridgerton made the Queen of England black, because at no fucking point did anyone pretend Bridgerton is a documentary.
I also can't imagine a lot of black folks are super thrilled with the implication there's nobody black in history worth making a documentary about so they came up with this we wuz kangs fairy tale nonsense instead.
Post by: Uncle on May 17, 2023, 08:01:54 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 17, 2023, 09:21:24 PM
exactly, it's the age-old "Ghostbusters 2016 criticism is sexist!" vs. "Annihilation 2018 also featured a team of 4 scientist women and everyone loved it because it wasn't dogshit"omg nobody has ever heard of whatever you're talking about, what matters are the permanent enduring corporate brands that make up the cultural superstructure of capitalism not some low budget movie nobody knew to review bomb :social
Post by: benjipwns on May 17, 2023, 11:00:34 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 17, 2023, 11:34:00 PM
Quote from: https://riotsettlement.com/FAQ?portalid=0
I do not identify as female. Can I participate in the settlement?
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What should I do if my legal gender or identified gender is different from when I worked at Riot?
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Post by: HaughtyFrank on May 19, 2023, 04:49:08 AM
I really don't care too much about who was lying to who here (the latest claim is that the "Karen" was actually in the right, but who knows), but it really is a bit crazy how random interactions get turned into national news.
Post by: Transhuman on May 19, 2023, 06:20:53 AM
I can only speak for myself but when that Chipotle manager got temporarily fired for refusing to serve those repeat dine-and-dashers unless they paid in advance, I didn't believe the kids for even one hot second. On the otherhand, when I first saw the Citi Bike vid I took it at face value because she seemed so guilty. And if there was bikes to spare, why was this guy so insistent he have hers? There's doesn't seem to be any upside for the guy, but i've seen enough videos on r/publicfreakouts of women (usually white women) exhibiting this same "Me first!" behaviour that the guy's version seemed plausible. If it turns out she was in the right it'll be the first time I can remember getting got. I'll finally get a taste of how all those Smollett/Heard posters felt.
Post by: Polident Hive on May 19, 2023, 06:50:00 AM
Post by: Nintex on May 19, 2023, 09:07:19 AM
The video for those who haven't seen it.
Bike rentals, you will own nothing and you will be happy :crowdlaff
Post by: james on May 19, 2023, 10:53:05 AM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on May 19, 2023, 11:19:58 AM
:hesright
Apparently the woman and her husband were also doxxed
Post by: Uncle on May 19, 2023, 11:22:07 AM
Personally, I probably wouldn’t get into a fight with some pregnant nurse over a share bike, film the encounter, and share it knowing people online will work towards ruining her life. Easier to douse it with radioactive isotope and make it off limits for us both.
man I wish I knew some pregnant nurses
Post by: Nintex on May 19, 2023, 01:22:28 PM
She lost her job so she'll be on OnlyFans soon :trumpsPersonally, I probably wouldn’t get into a fight with some pregnant nurse over a share bike, film the encounter, and share it knowing people online will work towards ruining her life. Easier to douse it with radioactive isotope and make it off limits for us both.
man I wish I knew some pregnant nurses
Post by: Nintex on May 19, 2023, 01:45:51 PM
TERF :pacspit
Post by: team filler on May 19, 2023, 09:19:14 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on May 20, 2023, 07:48:22 AM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on May 20, 2023, 12:55:48 PM
https://twitter.com/ErinInTheMorn/status/1659953699240701955
(https://i.imgur.com/6UCAf5E.jpg)
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on May 21, 2023, 07:58:46 AM
A reminder that there is no such thing as "settled science", because knowledge is a continuum and can (and should) always be capable of being reassessed based on new evidence, new observations, and new understandings.
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on May 21, 2023, 08:01:46 AM
Post by: benjipwns on May 22, 2023, 12:02:41 AM
Good morning!Yeah, no, how it works is if an industry organization declares something, it is not debatable. Like eugenics.
A reminder that there is no such thing as "settled science", because knowledge is a continuum and can (and should) always be capable of being reassessed based on new evidence, new observations, and new understandings.
Galen himself supports the settled science that blood letting is one of the most effective ways to rebalance the humoursNow you're getting it. Please make sure you don't breathe in any miasma from foul air and catch a disease.
Post by: benjipwns on May 22, 2023, 12:05:54 AM
Quote from: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/21/business/uber-bo-young-lee-suspended.htmlhttps://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/21/business/uber-bo-young-lee-suspended.html
Uber has placed its longtime head of diversity, equity and inclusion on leave after workers complained that an employee event she moderated, titled “Don’t Call Me Karen,” was insensitive to people of color.
Dara Khosrowshahi, Uber’s chief executive, and Nikki Krishnamurthy, the chief people officer, last week asked Bo Young Lee, the head of diversity, “to step back and take a leave of absence while we determine next steps,” according to an email on Thursday from Ms. Krishnamurthy to some employees that was viewed by The New York Times.
“We have heard that many of you are in pain and upset by yesterday’s Moving Forward session,” the email said. “While it was meant to be a dialogue, it’s obvious that those who attended did not feel heard.”
Employees’ concerns centered on a pair of events, one last month and another last Wednesday, that were billed as “diving into the spectrum of the American white woman’s experience” and hearing from white women who work at Uber, with a focus on “the ‘Karen’ persona.” They were intended to be an “open and honest conversation about race,” according to the invitation.
But workers instead felt that they were being lectured on the difficulties experienced by white women and why “Karen” was a derogatory term and that Ms. Lee was dismissive of their concerns, according to messages sent on Slack, a workplace messaging tool, that were viewed by The Times.
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The first of the two Don’t Call Me Karen events, in April, was part of a series called Moving Forward — discussions about race and the experiences of underrepresented groups that sprung up in the aftermath of the Black Lives Matter protests in 2020.:karen
Several weeks after that first event, a Black woman asked during an Uber all-hands meeting how the company would prevent “tone-deaf, offensive and triggering conversations” from becoming a part of its diversity initiatives.
Ms. Lee fielded the question, arguing that the Moving Forward series was aimed at having tough conversations and not intended to be comfortable.
“Sometimes being pushed out of your own strategic ignorance is the right thing to do,” she said, according to notes taken by an employee who attended the event. The comment prompted more employee outrage and complaints to executives, according to the Slack messages and the employee.
The second of the two events, run by Ms. Lee, was intended to be a dialogue where workers discussed what they had heard in the earlier meeting.
But in Slack groups for Black and Hispanic employees at Uber, workers fumed that instead of a chance to provide feedback or have a dialogue, they were instead being lectured about their response to the initial Don’t Call Me Karen event.
“I felt like I was being scolded for the entirety of that meeting,” one employee wrote.
Another employee took issue with the premise that the term Karen shouldn’t be used.
“I think when people are called Karens it’s implied that this is someone that has little empathy to others or is bothered by minorities others that don’t look like them. Like why can’t bad behavior not be called out?” she wrote.
Employees greeted the news that Ms. Lee was stepping away as a sign that Uber’s leadership was taking their complaints seriously.
One employee wrote that the company’s executives “have heard us, they know we are hurting, and they want to understand what all happened too.”
Post by: Potato on May 22, 2023, 01:08:06 AM
Post by: benjipwns on May 22, 2023, 01:19:32 AM
https://twitter.com/albino_boo/status/1660346695710920708
Post by: HaughtyFrank on May 22, 2023, 01:36:07 PM
Dude seems to make a case that racism isn't so bad in the UK if you can get away with all of that
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on May 22, 2023, 01:44:57 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fwvpj8HaAAEmgkC?format=jpg&name=medium)
Dude seems to make a case that racism isn't so bad in the UK if you can get away with all of that
bu-bu-but something something meghan markle
Post by: HaughtyFrank on May 22, 2023, 02:36:27 PM
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The executive hosted sessions about race and being a white woman that were titled “Don’t Call Me Karen,” prompting an employee uproar.
Post by: Nintex on May 22, 2023, 04:49:42 PM
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on May 22, 2023, 04:57:20 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 22, 2023, 08:41:56 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 23, 2023, 12:20:18 AM
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Post by: Nintex on May 23, 2023, 02:55:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asDEyW7WzOU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpz-oElIbjc
Post by: benjipwns on May 23, 2023, 08:20:04 PM
Post by: D3RANG3D on May 23, 2023, 09:45:26 PM
#HOTPHOBES
Post by: Nintex on May 24, 2023, 03:14:14 AM
What resetera member is this
Post by: HaughtyFrank on May 24, 2023, 08:55:00 AM
Indiana Jones has been murdered in broad daylightFrom the BBC review
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asDEyW7WzOU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpz-oElIbjc
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(The movie) has the air of a film passing the torch (or whip) to the next generation. But it does all this in an even gloomier fashion than The Force Awakens did. I'm not sure how many fans want to see Indiana Jones as a broken, helpless old man who cowers in the corner while his patronising goddaughter takes the lead, but that's what we're given, and it's as bleak as it sounds.https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20230519-indiana-jones-and-the-dial-of-destiny-review-gloomy-and-depressing-final-act
I really don't get it. What is the point of these legacy sequels that then just put down the character that everyone who bought a ticket wanted to see in action again? No surprise that it will piss people off. It's also been done to death, the subversion that your old hero isn't a hero anymore isn't a subversion anymore.
I'm pretty sure I've said it before, but I'm convinced that part of why Top Gun Maverick was so successful was that it didn't do any of that. Tom Cruise is still the best pilot in the navy and he didn't have to learn any bitter lessons about how he was actually super problematic in Top Gun 1 or something like that. Is that challenging cinema? No. But the worn out trope of putting the old hero down to prop up the new one isn't either, so might as well give people what they actually want to see
Post by: Polident Hive on May 24, 2023, 09:40:10 AM
Post by: BIONIC on May 24, 2023, 09:47:08 AM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on May 24, 2023, 01:13:10 PM
People are just confused at this point
Post by: Nintex on May 24, 2023, 01:28:36 PM
Post by: team filler on May 24, 2023, 01:29:41 PM
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on May 24, 2023, 01:31:42 PM
What resetera member is this
No one can know for sure, but I bet they main Lucio
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just kidding, woman in video has a job
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Post by: HaughtyFrank on May 24, 2023, 01:50:43 PM
What resetera member is this
No one can know for sure, but I bet they main Luciospoiler (click to show/hide)just kidding, woman in video has a job[close]
US professor fired after machete threat to New York Post reporter
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65692232
Not anymore. :pika
(though I can understand that reporters showing up at your apartment might be a bit upsetting. Not machete upsetting though)
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Ms Rodriguez has been approached for comment.
NO YOU'RE IN DANGER
Post by: D3RANG3D on May 24, 2023, 03:20:34 PM
What resetera member is this
No one can know for sure, but I bet they main Luciospoiler (click to show/hide)just kidding, woman in video has a job[close]
US professor fired after machete threat to New York Post reporter
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65692232
Not anymore. :pika
(though I can understand that reporters showing up at your apartment might be a bit upsetting. Not machete upsetting though)QuoteMs Rodriguez has been approached for comment.
NO YOU'RE IN DANGER
(https://i.imgur.com/mAX1wtJ.jpg)
https://youtu.be/vaYXdZOORIM
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Post by: HaughtyFrank on May 25, 2023, 08:39:20 AM
Post by: BIONIC on May 25, 2023, 09:31:24 AM
https://twitter.com/spuuky/status/1661177599534456832
People are just confused at this point
Seems Twitch quietly deleted this :lol
Post by: HaughtyFrank on May 25, 2023, 12:19:48 PM
Why would you throw shit on plants... :steel
Post by: BIONIC on May 25, 2023, 12:27:01 PM
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on May 25, 2023, 12:50:58 PM
:dead
Post by: HaughtyFrank on May 25, 2023, 02:03:53 PM
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But let’s say when the high school sophomore clicks Tabroom she sees that her judge is Lila Lavender, the 2019 national debate champion, whose paradigm reads, “Before anything else, including being a debate judge, I am a Marxist-Leninist-Maoist. . . . I cannot check the revolutionary proletarian science at the door when I’m judging. . . . I will no longer evaluate and thus never vote for rightest capitalist-imperialist positions/arguments. . . . Examples of arguments of this nature are as follows: fascism good, capitalism good, imperialist war good, neoliberalism good, defenses of US or otherwise bourgeois nationalism, Zionism or normalizing Israel, colonialism good, US white fascist policing good, etc.”
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In the past few years, however, judges with paradigms tainted by politics and ideology are becoming common. Debate judge Shubham Gupta’s paradigm reads, “If you are discussing immigrants in a round and describe the person as ‘illegal,’ I will immediately stop the round, give you the loss with low speaks”—low speaker points—“give you a stern lecture, and then talk to your coach. . . . I will not have you making the debate space unsafe.”
Debate Judge Kriti Sharma concurs: under her list of “Things That Will Cause You To Automatically Lose,” number three is “Referring to immigrants as ‘illegal.’ ”
Should a high school student automatically lose and be publicly humiliated for using a term that’s not only ubiquitous in media and politics, but accurate?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on May 25, 2023, 02:41:51 PM
https://twitter.com/JustStop_Oil/status/1661662486741778434
Why would you throw shit on plants... :steel
the one on the right either missed where her mark was supposed to be, or didn't agree with throwing shit on plants, because shes just stood there throwing paint up in the air onto herself
Post by: Nintex on May 25, 2023, 02:57:55 PM
https://twitter.com/bariweiss/status/1661752086248460289Excuse me miss, can we call them rapists, drug dealers and bad hombres instead?QuoteBut let’s say when the high school sophomore clicks Tabroom she sees that her judge is Lila Lavender, the 2019 national debate champion, whose paradigm reads, “Before anything else, including being a debate judge, I am a Marxist-Leninist-Maoist. . . . I cannot check the revolutionary proletarian science at the door when I’m judging. . . . I will no longer evaluate and thus never vote for rightest capitalist-imperialist positions/arguments. . . . Examples of arguments of this nature are as follows: fascism good, capitalism good, imperialist war good, neoliberalism good, defenses of US or otherwise bourgeois nationalism, Zionism or normalizing Israel, colonialism good, US white fascist policing good, etc.”QuoteIn the past few years, however, judges with paradigms tainted by politics and ideology are becoming common. Debate judge Shubham Gupta’s paradigm reads, “If you are discussing immigrants in a round and describe the person as ‘illegal,’ I will immediately stop the round, give you the loss with low speaks”—low speaker points—“give you a stern lecture, and then talk to your coach. . . . I will not have you making the debate space unsafe.”
Debate Judge Kriti Sharma concurs: under her list of “Things That Will Cause You To Automatically Lose,” number three is “Referring to immigrants as ‘illegal.’ ”
Should a high school student automatically lose and be publicly humiliated for using a term that’s not only ubiquitous in media and politics, but accurate?
Post by: benjipwns on May 25, 2023, 03:07:35 PM
twitter.com/JustStop_Oil/status/1661662486741778434
Why would you throw shit on plants... :steel
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Millions are starving in the Global South whilst our government ignores the climate crisis, choosing to licence 100 new oil and gas projects.Non-sequitur?
:isthis
Post by: Potato on May 25, 2023, 04:56:43 PM
https://twitter.com/JustStop_Oil/status/1661662486741778434A variation of these fuckwits were protesting at the oil and gas conference I went to recently. They didn't see the irony of turning up with a gas-powered BBQ to cook their lunch.
Why would you throw shit on plants... :steel
They're not very bright people.
Post by: benjipwns on May 25, 2023, 05:46:01 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on May 25, 2023, 06:00:16 PM
*remembers that correcting spelling is white supremacy*
:walkaway
Post by: Nintex on May 25, 2023, 07:04:16 PM
Post by: Potato on May 25, 2023, 07:35:25 PM
Post by: D3RANG3D on May 25, 2023, 08:06:57 PM
https://twitter.com/HeidiBriones/status/1661475062858371075
Post by: benjipwns on May 25, 2023, 08:22:59 PM
Post by: BIONIC on May 25, 2023, 08:50:23 PM
Dancing, drama and playing cards. :jeanluc
Buncha goddamn harlots.
Post by: Polident Hive on May 26, 2023, 04:40:20 AM
https://twitter.com/shoe0nhead/status/1661784566003118091 (https://twitter.com/shoe0nhead/status/1661784566003118091)
The rise of only fans is kind of insidious. Accessibly parasocial for all groups and not just guys who fly out to Vegas. So even homely broads can have an audience by making that group feel noticed. Or work the other way, by growing a base elsewhere, and transitioning to a pricier illicit tier. What that tweet is saying. If you’re a lady doing YouTube videos on Kirby lore, inevitably a horde of men and boys will offer money to see racey photos. Loops back to the concern over AI smut. Fundamentally it lacks the parasocial element that I guess is appealing to that audience. And an AI model can’t get be gifted a ticket to Dubai.
Post by: james on May 31, 2023, 12:09:36 PM
Post by: team filler on June 03, 2023, 08:28:54 AM
Post by: Nintex on June 03, 2023, 09:27:32 AM
https://twitter.com/lporiginalg/status/1664714136696287232 (https://twitter.com/lporiginalg/status/1664714136696287232)
I didn't do it :dead
Post by: Nintex on June 03, 2023, 02:23:59 PM
https://twitter.com/OJ_Smoke_/status/1664504536231288833Marxist Globalists: Haha, after we privatize and secularize your once great civilized nation we'll flood your countries with refugees to destroy your national identity, keep wages low, ship your jobs to China and call you racists for protesting against open borders, homelessness and endless wars. Your history and culture will be erased, you will be cancelled, you will own nothing and you will be happy in lockdown :tophat
Conservatives + Refugees: Inshallah brothers! Deus Vult! Let's work together to destroy these godless marxist infidels with the holy blessings of the almighty, the Prophet(peace be upon him), the brave Mujahideen and our Favorite PresidentTM :rejoice
Marxist Globalists: :pika
Post by: team filler on June 03, 2023, 08:11:07 PM
with the music :dead
Post by: Nintex on June 04, 2023, 05:16:08 AM
https://twitter.com/bloodharbor1/status/1664481105456816129 (https://twitter.com/bloodharbor1/status/1664481105456816129)
Post by: team filler on June 04, 2023, 05:57:04 AM
Post by: Nintex on June 04, 2023, 02:48:47 PM
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i will be addressing everything as sincerely as possible when i am able to find the right words for what i need to say.(https://media.tenor.com/XnGK5CaQTt4AAAAC/ah-eto-bleh-anime.gif)
Post by: team filler on June 06, 2023, 02:57:58 PM
:hesright
Post by: Nintex on June 06, 2023, 04:07:49 PM
If a soldier died during WW1 they'd collect the body, strip it, have the uniforms washed and repaired and handed the uniform to the next group of conscripts as opposed to the French and Brits who mostly buried their soldiers in uniform as a token of respect.
By the time this happened the conditions in the occupied territories of the Reich were abysmal and low level enforcers took anything of value for the war effort (and/or to line their pockets). Either materials or valuables.
Of course harvesting resources like this and getting them to factories is highly inefficient so the cherry on top of the sad cake is that very few of the stolen goods actually ended up being useful and were piled up in warehouses hundreds of miles from where they were needed.
Why the shoes? Well because at that point in the war (44/45) they had already looted everything else so this was the most 'valuable' item these people still owned that they could take from them.
Post by: Himu on June 07, 2023, 04:34:46 PM
https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1666254636443918338
https://twitter.com/FordFischer/status/1666193308912164864
Post by: team filler on June 09, 2023, 05:48:38 PM
this is the person that keeps getting her pictures posted with "Trans joy" in the captions :fbm
Post by: Potato on June 09, 2023, 11:20:54 PM
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Post by: D3RANG3D on June 14, 2023, 10:32:27 AM
Post by: team filler on June 14, 2023, 04:05:35 PM
Post by: Nintex on June 16, 2023, 03:38:25 AM
:doge
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 16, 2023, 01:48:35 PM
Post by: BIONIC on June 16, 2023, 03:49:18 PM
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Post by: Himu on June 20, 2023, 07:22:14 AM
lmao Pay up, Bore!
Post by: BIONIC on June 20, 2023, 08:21:07 AM
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2023, 08:58:18 AM
Post by: BIONIC on June 20, 2023, 09:10:52 AM
cock lover.
:spiders :spiders :spiders
Post by: Nintex on June 20, 2023, 10:43:07 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/HyrvUqt.jpg)As a real ally I will create a platform to facilitate this with low transaction and membership costs.
lmao Pay up, Bore!
:money
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 21, 2023, 11:11:37 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/HyrvUqt.jpg)BLM was one of the most brilliant marketing ideas in years. It's like a carbon footprint for whiteness. Calculate your guilt and pay out to absolve your sins.
lmao Pay up, Bore!
Every now and then I'll see the "I'm a trans nonbinary person who will be unhoused by my parents and need money" tweets. Ironically what little money BLM actually paid out to community orgs went to LGBTQ orgs. I'm sure they could use more money, they do some good things! Too bad, you know, BLM was a scam.
Post by: Himu on June 22, 2023, 12:47:28 AM
Post by: benjipwns on June 22, 2023, 12:54:27 AM
Every now and then I'll see the "I'm a trans nonbinary person who will be unhoused by my parents and need money" tweets.There's a whole fascinating begging "subculture" on Twitter. Yet there doesn't seem to be any indication that any of the people who devote all their time to it actually do make anything more than pocket change from it randomly roping in some dummy. Which makes it a less effective form of actually real-world panhandling, although considering the lower investment costs I suppose the lower profits are appropriate.
Post by: Himu on June 22, 2023, 01:00:57 AM
You'll find similar rhetoric towards cutting off red states from getting aid because they vote overwhelmingly Republican, or the whole Herman Caine award thing all under the guise of being holier than thou and "we actually care about people". Pissants in a pot, most of them.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 22, 2023, 09:31:38 AM
Post by: james on June 22, 2023, 12:26:12 PM
After I lost my job because of NYC Covid restrictions I didn't have enough money for deodorant and my soap was an old bottle of body wash that I was pouring shower into and shaking it up.
Did no one tell you the government was sending $800 a week in cash if you lost your job due to covid? lol
Post by: D3RANG3D on June 22, 2023, 12:52:01 PM
Post by: Himu on June 22, 2023, 07:35:24 PM
Post by: Himu on June 26, 2023, 11:58:40 PM
:sabu :sabu :sabu
What a dumb bitch. We've been celebrating this my whole life. Mom went to Juneteenth celebrations when I was a kid. Juneteenth is a regional holiday. It didn't always have national traction but now it does but that doesn't mean it's made up. Shit been here for ages. Look it up. You're a "journalist", apparently.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 27, 2023, 12:01:39 AM
She's a grifter. She's saying exactly what her audience wants to hear.
Post by: Himu on June 27, 2023, 12:04:44 AM
For example, her take on Juneteenth being made up is dumb but her takeaway on ghetto black folks acting like monkeys is on the dot.
Post by: Himu on June 27, 2023, 12:11:23 AM
Gat damn I'm so glad this is gaining more traction around niccas. Victim shit is poison. Fuck the Democratic Party. People are waking up and going forward it's the victim people vs the rest of us. It's up to the rest of us to rebuild this community to be positive and forward minded rather than stew in the juices of victomhoods stool.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 29, 2023, 11:11:37 PM
https://youtu.be/_5Ue_MwVlzE
:sabu :sabu :sabu
What a dumb bitch. We've been celebrating this my whole life. Mom went to Juneteenth celebrations when I was a kid. Juneteenth is a regional holiday. It didn't always have national traction but now it does but that doesn't mean it's made up. Shit been here for ages. Look it up. You're a "journalist", apparently.
This is the person tasked with bringing black people to conservatism lol...
There's literally no reason to talk about the holiday this way unless she's catering to some of the most bottom of the barrel racists imaginable. Multiple states in the south had Jubilee holidays celebrating the end of slavery, on different dates. Kentucky's was in December, which was the latest month when slavery ended in a state. Within a couple decades, Juneteenth was celebrated in multiple states and kind of became the defacto Jubilee holiday.
Ted Cruz releasing a vid celebrating the holiday told me everything I need to know, honestly. This is a well known holiday to people in Texas and parts of the south, and is only controversial with straight up loser right wingers.
Post by: benjipwns on June 30, 2023, 01:02:31 AM
Post by: D3RANG3D on June 30, 2023, 01:43:27 PM
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 03, 2023, 11:47:19 AM
If your worldview is that white supremacy is the dominant world ideology then it's easy to dismiss other cultures' long-held norms, views, and lifestyles. I 100% believe white supremacy exists obviously, but it is not the wizard of Oz behind the curtain of every culture that comes to America. The flaws of this mindset get exposed often but I can't think of many more direct than the recent freakout over Muslim Americans not wanting gay books/content in their libraries. Why people expected an Abrahamic religion to be progressive is beyond me. The Koran states that homosexuality should be punished, and Muhammad stated it should be by death. What does that have to do with white supremacy? But when your sole interest is in forming non-white coalitions of voters who do exactly what you want them to do, this becomes a complication right. This isn't about allies or quid pro quo. People have vested self interests that drive their behavior and actions. When you fail to acknowledge this it leads you down intellectually fraught roads, like "we defended you after 911/Iraq so you should support gay rights." Huh? This isn't about Muslims allying with white supremacy, it's about Muslims having religious views that mirror Christian views when it comes to homosexuality. And abortion.
When I look at what's going on with immigrant groups in America I see a clear race for resources. People coming to this country and taking advantage of any opportunity to attain education and businesses. Their political allegiances largely center on who is helping them achieve their goals, and who is impeding their goals. The issue is not that these immigrant groups want to attain whiteness - they want to replace it. And by dismissing their ambitions as an almost slave-like obsession with their oppressor all liberals are doing is insulting their intelligence. Many of these communities aren't even trying to assimilate, beyond education. Many eat at restaurants within their community, almost exclusively shop at stores within their community, and seek out doctors within their community. None of this gels with wanting to be...white.
Here's how it hurts black people. While we remain stagnant and complain about groups not being good allies, those groups keep running the resource race. And when the dust settles and this shit gets to where it's going...we're going to face permanent underclass status while Asians/Hispanics/etc say "I did this on my own, why can't you." They didn't do it on their own obviously, but that's what they will say. There will be no white guilt at play, either. Why would they feel guilty, after all - they aren't white, they aren't the ancestors of slave owners, etc. Point being none of these people are our ally and it's time to act accordingly.
Post by: Nintex on July 03, 2023, 04:53:09 PM
:salute
Post by: D3RANG3D on July 03, 2023, 07:51:33 PM
Post by: D3RANG3D on July 05, 2023, 01:20:32 PM
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 07, 2023, 07:36:18 PM
Post by: Himu on July 07, 2023, 11:51:37 PM
Black male militancy has helped the black community achieve very little, overall, long term and it has warped itself into idolatry (black queen, black king, black pride;etc). You can see it in things like Woman King and a growing sentiment in the community that paints black people above criticism. Figures like WEB Dubois and Booker T Washington had far better and outlasting ideas for the community. No AA is a good thing. Rip the band-aid off and stop coddling black people. We have been left behind and our community is dying not at the hands of white people but people that look just like us.
That said, happy to see PD post some solidarity for brothers. Surprised you posted something that was against black feminism. Impressed.
Post by: benjipwns on July 08, 2023, 12:29:58 AM
twitter.com/eihtbeezy/status/1677451639442006017I mean, White Fragility, which our betters were all telling everyone to read to understand the Black struggle, is a blatantly white supremacist work that says white people have magical powers and shouldn't even talk to Black people as human beings. :kermit
Post by: D3RANG3D on July 12, 2023, 08:18:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2hA3tFwmDE
(https://i.imgur.com/fRzmbAW.png)
Post by: Himu on July 15, 2023, 12:06:07 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJZHPVNpBGQ
Great video.
We must fight the lgbt with our Christian friends. I've been trying to make Christian in-roads lately and even suggested going to a Catholic Church for Easter just to gain allies. It would great to get the Jews in on this but many of them support Pride. It'll be tough but if we get the Orthodox community as allies (easier said than done) we can do a lot. Unfortunately that's not as likely because the Orthodox has their own schools generally and won't have to worry about Pride being taught to kids.
Post by: Himu on July 15, 2023, 12:51:00 AM
https://youtu.be/nRrAJoFWeCk
Mashaa Allah. Alhamdulillah. Astaghfirullah for ever thinking was acceptable. Please forgive me.
Post by: Nintex on July 15, 2023, 04:23:59 AM
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Post by: D3RANG3D on July 22, 2023, 02:37:04 PM
Post by: Himu on July 22, 2023, 07:21:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9q19CZu7mI
These men giving these women a platform should be ashamed. A generation of "men" that has created a generation of hoes. Honestly we should be more mad at the dudes that pay these women than the women themselves.
Post by: D3RANG3D on July 24, 2023, 04:31:37 PM
Post by: team filler on July 24, 2023, 10:45:44 PM
this came after the trans people started calling a black woman a man after she spoke her opinion on the trans bullshit
:kermit
Post by: team filler on July 26, 2023, 09:39:34 AM
Post by: D3RANG3D on July 26, 2023, 11:12:22 PM
Post by: D3RANG3D on July 27, 2023, 09:13:16 AM
Post by: Himu on July 29, 2023, 03:20:04 PM
Allah please bless your Ummah and save our country from the degeneracy of the lgbtq agenda. Ameen.
Post by: Himu on July 29, 2023, 04:24:29 PM
https://youtu.be/onz8-1EnLyY
What happens when you ally yourself with communism.
Post by: james on July 31, 2023, 04:57:25 PM
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A professional dancer voguing at a Brooklyn gas station after a trip to the Jersey Shore with his friends was stabbed to death during a confrontation Saturday night with a group of Muslim men who said the victim’s impromptu performance offended their faith, witnesses and friends told the Daily News.https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/ny-man-fatally-stabbed-brooklyn-fight-gas-station-20230730-nkyx7enjqzcxhpv3bfp3iak2vm-story.html
O’Shae Sibley, 28, a professional dancer who has performed at Lincoln Center as part of an all-queer dance group, was blasting music and dancing with his pals at the Midwood Mobil station on Coney Island Ave and Avenue P just after 11 p.m. when their antics drew homophobic protests from a group of men nearby, authorities and witnesses said.
The NYPD is investigating the caught-on-video killing as a possible hate crime.
Trump was right about these people
Post by: D3RANG3D on August 01, 2023, 01:46:12 AM
Post by: Himu on August 01, 2023, 01:55:25 AM
Is Himu back in Brooklyn?QuoteA professional dancer voguing at a Brooklyn gas station after a trip to the Jersey Shore with his friends was stabbed to death during a confrontation Saturday night with a group of Muslim men who said the victim’s impromptu performance offended their faith, witnesses and friends told the Daily News.https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/ny-man-fatally-stabbed-brooklyn-fight-gas-station-20230730-nkyx7enjqzcxhpv3bfp3iak2vm-story.html
O’Shae Sibley, 28, a professional dancer who has performed at Lincoln Center as part of an all-queer dance group, was blasting music and dancing with his pals at the Midwood Mobil station on Coney Island Ave and Avenue P just after 11 p.m. when their antics drew homophobic protests from a group of men nearby, authorities and witnesses said.
The NYPD is investigating the caught-on-video killing as a possible hate crime.
Trump was right about these people
Not back in Brooklyn yet. I'll remember to bring some lighter fluid to burn some pride flags when I return. Kidding.
Post by: Transhuman on August 01, 2023, 08:13:28 AM
Post by: Himu on August 01, 2023, 12:13:02 PM
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what does she think conservatives are conserving?
traditions lmao
:point :point :point :point
You had me great joke
I'm really glad to help, my dude.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 09, 2023, 10:35:51 AM
lmao these idiots are always getting clowned whenever some celeb goes to jail and they celebrate.
Post by: D3RANG3D on August 19, 2023, 08:56:54 PM
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 21, 2023, 04:10:42 PM
That's the left wing version. On the right wing there's the nonstop obsession with movies they know they won't fuck with. And I love how it goes from "GO WOKE GO BROKE" to crickets when a film succeeds. Barbie is anti-male woke trash according to them and yet...is the most successful film of the year and grossed a billion dollars. Same was Ben Shapiro gave the last Batman movie a bad rating because of "wokeness" and then they all shut the fuck up after everyone realized it was a great movie that did real well.
Post by: D3RANG3D on August 25, 2023, 12:19:15 PM
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on September 06, 2023, 02:33:42 AM
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 11, 2023, 06:32:24 PM
(it's bullshit, obviously)
You cannot convince me that all of this shit isn't a psyop. Pure brain poison aimed at destroying leftist minds, killing real radicalism, and replacing it with an endless identity war that will never cease (but during which none of these groups will truly attain any progress). I'm not a communist or socialist, but if I was a CIA agent tasked with getting rid of them non-violently...this is exactly what I'd do. And it's clearly what they are doing.
Post by: Nintex on September 11, 2023, 07:23:37 PM
And schools and universities have been absolutely infected with those teachings and those kids then move on to work for the government, corporations and NGO's adding more fuel to the fire with endless funding for this nonsense.
You are right, it is exactly what you would do if you wanted to stop any revolution from happening. Look, we gave you all the pills and opportunities, your life isn't improving because cis men are holding back your progress.
All these nice things aren't for you because you want to save the planet right. We should all 'degrowth' instead, look at that homeless guy eating a hamburger. He's literally destroying the planet. Why don't you capture footage of him with your new iPhone.
It's why Dawkins fears he was wrong in challenging Christianity as far more dangerous and toxic ideologies have replaced it. He and his peers figured that if you 'cured' people from Christianity it would lead to a more rational society.
However, this didn't happen at all. People latch on to anything to fill a void of belonging and belief and Christianity itself has radicalized too in self preservation.
And the climate and gender church is not much different really, I mean, like religions of old they claim that these doomsday events will end us all with very little evidence that their solutions like burning more trees work.
The effects of those fantasies are devastating though, real problems like homelessness and the drug epidemic aren't solved because why solve them if the real problem is a transphobic genocide and the world ends tommorow.
And those chicks, well they are on drugs, plain and simple. Probably prescription drugs but still drugs.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 15, 2023, 04:33:03 PM
After Occupy Wall Street the establishment made everything about race, identity and climate.
And schools and universities have been absolutely infected with those teachings and those kids then move on to work for the government, corporations and NGO's adding more fuel to the fire with endless funding for this nonsense.
You are right, it is exactly what you would do if you wanted to stop any revolution from happening. Look, we gave you all the pills and opportunities, your life isn't improving because cis men are holding back your progress.
All these nice things aren't for you because you want to save the planet right. We should all 'degrowth' instead, look at that homeless guy eating a hamburger. He's literally destroying the planet. Why don't you capture footage of him with your new iPhone.
It's why Dawkins fears he was wrong in challenging Christianity as far more dangerous and toxic ideologies have replaced it. He and his peers figured that if you 'cured' people from Christianity it would lead to a more rational society.
However, this didn't happen at all. People latch on to anything to fill a void of belonging and belief and Christianity itself has radicalized too in self preservation.
And the climate and gender church is not much different really, I mean, like religions of old they claim that these doomsday events will end us all with very little evidence that their solutions like burning more trees work.
The effects of those fantasies are devastating though, real problems like homelessness and the drug epidemic aren't solved because why solve them if the real problem is a transphobic genocide and the world ends tommorow.
And those chicks, well they are on drugs, plain and simple. Probably prescription drugs but still drugs.
Intersectionality was around before Occupy, and heavily in academia. I would say it's become more mainstream in the last decade plus or so but the seed was there. I've said it before but there's an undeniable connection between radical black power ideologies being purged from academia and the advent of intersectionality. Specifically through black feminism and bell hooks. The results today are clear. An ideology that outright denigrates most black men, and doesn't even deem them to be black. After all, how can they be a marginalized group worthy of study/resources/support/etc if they're just oppressors, patriarchs, and brutes. Outside of black circles I think you also see this in the way boys are treated in schools. They're viewed as a problem that needs to be solved instead of a child. White boys, black boys...this is happening across the board.
I don't think the Gloria Steinem CIA thing, and her connection to the spread of black feminism, is a coincidence. I am not a communist or a socialist. But it's not outrageous to suggest the US government did what it has always done: decapitate black male threats from the most dangerous communist organization to ever exist in this country, the Black Panthers. And then use blatant propaganda to sully the name of the group as some misogynist hell hole. You don't need to look hard on twitter or tiktok to see countless bullshit videos about radical black orgs being anti-black women. The plot is clear as day: stir division to destroy the reputation of black radicalism and replace it with something far less threatening to the state. All while ensuring leftists fight and haggle over bullshit forever.
Post by: team filler on September 15, 2023, 06:27:06 PM
Post by: D3RANG3D on September 16, 2023, 06:21:19 PM
Post by: benjipwns on September 16, 2023, 06:27:56 PM
I don't think the Gloria Steinem CIA thing, and her connection to the spread of black feminism, is a coincidence. I am not a communist or a socialist. But it's not outrageous to suggest the US government did what it has always done: decapitate black male threats from the most dangerous communist organization to ever exist in this country, the Black Panthers. And then use blatant propaganda to sully the name of the group as some misogynist hell hole. You don't need to look hard on twitter or tiktok to see countless bullshit videos about radical black orgs being anti-black women. The plot is clear as day: stir division to destroy the reputation of black radicalism and replace it with something far less threatening to the state. All while ensuring leftists fight and haggle over bullshit forever.The problem with this theory is that leftists have never needed outsiders or powerful institutions to do this. The French Revolution, the Paris Commune, the USSR, China, basically every utopian community ever, etc.
I think it's inherent to the worldview, I just haven't figured out the exact why yet. Something about how the logic is steeped under a premise of an all powerful vast paranoid totalitarian conspiracy.
But but but but but they were all under siege from the outside forces... yeah, whatever, man.
Post by: Himu on September 16, 2023, 06:33:25 PM
After Occupy Wall Street the establishment made everything about race, identity and climate.
And schools and universities have been absolutely infected with those teachings and those kids then move on to work for the government, corporations and NGO's adding more fuel to the fire with endless funding for this nonsense.
You are right, it is exactly what you would do if you wanted to stop any revolution from happening. Look, we gave you all the pills and opportunities, your life isn't improving because cis men are holding back your progress.
All these nice things aren't for you because you want to save the planet right. We should all 'degrowth' instead, look at that homeless guy eating a hamburger. He's literally destroying the planet. Why don't you capture footage of him with your new iPhone.
It's why Dawkins fears he was wrong in challenging Christianity as far more dangerous and toxic ideologies have replaced it. He and his peers figured that if you 'cured' people from Christianity it would lead to a more rational society.
However, this didn't happen at all. People latch on to anything to fill a void of belonging and belief and Christianity itself has radicalized too in self preservation.
And the climate and gender church is not much different really, I mean, like religions of old they claim that these doomsday events will end us all with very little evidence that their solutions like burning more trees work.
The effects of those fantasies are devastating though, real problems like homelessness and the drug epidemic aren't solved because why solve them if the real problem is a transphobic genocide and the world ends tommorow.
And those chicks, well they are on drugs, plain and simple. Probably prescription drugs but still drugs.
Intersectionality was around before Occupy, and heavily in academia. I would say it's become more mainstream in the last decade plus or so but the seed was there. I've said it before but there's an undeniable connection between radical black power ideologies being purged from academia and the advent of intersectionality. Specifically through black feminism and bell hooks. The results today are clear. An ideology that outright denigrates most black men, and doesn't even deem them to be black. After all, how can they be a marginalized group worthy of study/resources/support/etc if they're just oppressors, patriarchs, and brutes. Outside of black circles I think you also see this in the way boys are treated in schools. They're viewed as a problem that needs to be solved instead of a child. White boys, black boys...this is happening across the board.
I don't think the Gloria Steinem CIA thing, and her connection to the spread of black feminism, is a coincidence. I am not a communist or a socialist. But it's not outrageous to suggest the US government did what it has always done: decapitate black male threats from the most dangerous communist organization to ever exist in this country, the Black Panthers. And then use blatant propaganda to sully the name of the group as some misogynist hell hole. You don't need to look hard on twitter or tiktok to see countless bullshit videos about radical black orgs being anti-black women. The plot is clear as day: stir division to destroy the reputation of black radicalism and replace it with something far less threatening to the state. All while ensuring leftists fight and haggle over bullshit forever.
My man :mynicca
Black feminism and intersectionality is a way to divide black America. It completely replaced the more masculine approaches to our issues with feel good nonsense that puts the women at the forefront at the expense of black men. Black men lose our status as black people and black minorities because we are men and men cannot be oppressed. Attacking the Panthers in particular (every movie featuring them categorizes them as bad) is always bullshit considering sheer amount of support from black sisters and black female leadership in that org. They are labeled as radicals and extremists even when they displayed clear American rights (protesting at California capitol with guns) and instituting things that would go on to be national traditions (breakfast for children). Moreover, their no nonsense "let's police ourselves" mindset tied with the Black Muslim movement. I guarantee that if black Muslims and Black Panthers were allowed to police black neighborhoods rather than Nixon's war on drugs crack would have never taken over black ghettoes the extent it did. Instead, we had Christian turn the cheek NONSENSE. But you can't say that because it goes against America's agenda against black sovereign movements.
Meanwhile cac leftists masturbate to their own farts about intersectionality as they appease fat black single feminists. SAD.
Leftism is for white faccots.
Post by: Himu on September 16, 2023, 07:10:57 PM
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on September 17, 2023, 06:44:38 AM
I don't think the Gloria Steinem CIA thing, and her connection to the spread of black feminism, is a coincidence. I am not a communist or a socialist. But it's not outrageous to suggest the US government did what it has always done: decapitate black male threats from the most dangerous communist organization to ever exist in this country, the Black Panthers. And then use blatant propaganda to sully the name of the group as some misogynist hell hole. You don't need to look hard on twitter or tiktok to see countless bullshit videos about radical black orgs being anti-black women. The plot is clear as day: stir division to destroy the reputation of black radicalism and replace it with something far less threatening to the state. All while ensuring leftists fight and haggle over bullshit forever.The problem with this theory is that leftists have never needed outsiders or powerful institutions to do this. The French Revolution, the Paris Commune, the USSR, China, basically every utopian community ever, etc.
I think it's inherent to the worldview, I just haven't figured out the exact why yet. Something about how the logic is steeped under a premise of an all powerful vast paranoid totalitarian conspiracy.
But but but but but they were all under siege from the outside forces... yeah, whatever, man.
Essentially the left wing / right wing social split is between "let's work together to make things better" vs "Things are basically fine now so let's not fuck it up".
So broad strokes consensus - "Let's make things better!" is easy, but agreeing to the actual substantitive qualities of a) what 'better' consists of and b) what actions should be taken to achieve that is where the arguments start.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 18, 2023, 10:11:36 AM
I don't think the Gloria Steinem CIA thing, and her connection to the spread of black feminism, is a coincidence. I am not a communist or a socialist. But it's not outrageous to suggest the US government did what it has always done: decapitate black male threats from the most dangerous communist organization to ever exist in this country, the Black Panthers. And then use blatant propaganda to sully the name of the group as some misogynist hell hole. You don't need to look hard on twitter or tiktok to see countless bullshit videos about radical black orgs being anti-black women. The plot is clear as day: stir division to destroy the reputation of black radicalism and replace it with something far less threatening to the state. All while ensuring leftists fight and haggle over bullshit forever.The problem with this theory is that leftists have never needed outsiders or powerful institutions to do this. The French Revolution, the Paris Commune, the USSR, China, basically every utopian community ever, etc.
I think it's inherent to the worldview, I just haven't figured out the exact why yet. Something about how the logic is steeped under a premise of an all powerful vast paranoid totalitarian conspiracy.
But but but but but they were all under siege from the outside forces... yeah, whatever, man.
While this is true, it never stopped the CIA and FBI from targeting those organizations. From infiltrating the civil rights movement to killing Black Panthers to cointelpro, it's been a pretty key directive from the state. I agree these groups inevitably all fail though, which is why the far left will never win.
I think it's about purity btw. There's always going to be an inherent incentive to cast yourself as the purist comrade, or the biggest victim. This results in hierarchy which creates division over who should be in charge, or who matters the most. And eventually they tear each other apart every time, resulting in splinter groups that just get more and more insular.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 18, 2023, 11:06:16 AM
Post by: D3RANG3D on September 24, 2023, 03:58:21 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/6k1eSjd.png)
Post by: D3RANG3D on September 25, 2023, 12:59:27 PM
Post by: team filler on September 26, 2023, 06:43:51 PM
Post by: D3RANG3D on October 13, 2023, 08:10:07 AM
Post by: team filler on October 14, 2023, 04:45:51 AM
:maduro
Post by: D3RANG3D on October 14, 2023, 12:11:15 PM
Post by: team filler on October 15, 2023, 01:12:53 PM
Post by: D3RANG3D on October 15, 2023, 01:23:23 PM
Post by: team filler on October 15, 2023, 02:03:21 PM
Post by: team filler on October 15, 2023, 03:49:49 PM
:nugenix2
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 16, 2023, 03:45:52 PM
Ideological paralysis. I'd imagine this guy created this video, felt good about it, then began worrying about the accusations he may be faced with on twitter. Thus resulting in adding weird asterisks and apologies and explanations for xyz. You cannot live like this.
Post by: D3RANG3D on October 18, 2023, 09:46:08 AM
https://youtu.be/nKa0-UoD7e8?feature=shared
Post by: D3RANG3D on October 22, 2023, 12:48:45 PM
Post by: Nintex on October 22, 2023, 04:26:05 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F9D1nT4WwAAYWnN?format=jpg)
Post by: D3RANG3D on October 31, 2023, 08:39:21 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/0wJxUTN.png)
Post by: team filler on November 01, 2023, 01:14:04 AM
Post by: D3RANG3D on November 02, 2023, 03:55:23 PM
Post by: D3RANG3D on November 15, 2023, 04:32:04 PM
The copium.
(https://i.imgur.com/JTsP8rM.png)
Post by: D3RANG3D on November 16, 2023, 07:33:23 PM
Post by: D3RANG3D on November 17, 2023, 06:54:08 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/hs1Z8kq.png) (https://i.imgur.com/5rNMfup.png)
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https://twitter.com/jonathanarad84/status/1725245920948658508
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Post by: team filler on November 18, 2023, 04:44:20 PM
"if you don't approve of our ethnic cleansing you are isis" :cry
Post by: D3RANG3D on November 23, 2023, 04:33:51 PM
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 27, 2023, 08:49:55 AM
Perfect example of intersectionality being brain poison. Regardless of your views on the conflict it's been very insightful watching Palestinians react in unity against oppression, VS the broken reactions you always get here from black people/groups. There is no oppression Olympics, there is no fight over who should and shouldn't be allowed to lead, and their women are not arguing that their men are more privileged while bombs drop on all of them.
Post by: D3RANG3D on November 27, 2023, 11:39:12 AM
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on November 27, 2023, 02:20:40 PM
https://twitter.com/eihtbeezy/status/1729099287076741271
Perfect example of intersectionality being brain poison. Regardless of your views on the conflict it's been very insightful watching Palestinians react in unity against oppression, VS the broken reactions you always get here from black people/groups. There is no oppression Olympics, there is no fight over who should and shouldn't be allowed to lead, and their women are not arguing that their men are more privileged while bombs drop on all of them.
A cynic might say that that is because they are suffering actual ongoing oppression, versus attempting to magnify perceived slights and unresolved historical grievance into a bigger context of systemic abuse.
They're also well aware that the people who claim to speak for them are violently racist separatist ideologues who honestly could not give less of a fuck about them outside of a means to their own ends.
:kermit
Post by: D3RANG3D on November 27, 2023, 02:58:56 PM
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Post by: D3RANG3D on December 04, 2023, 10:57:53 PM
Post by: D3RANG3D on December 05, 2023, 02:10:53 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/JTsP8rM.png)
Post by: D3RANG3D on December 06, 2023, 05:42:05 PM
:ohhh
Post by: Nintex on December 06, 2023, 07:38:56 PM
https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1732520292688523490Even weirder is how Trump predicted 9/11 in his book before it happened and even predicted a shadowy figure with no fixed address named Bin Laden would be enemy no 1., they would bomb his camp in Afghanistan but he would escape and they would move on to a different crisis instead (Iraq).
:ohhh
Alex Jones has all the Documents, how the hell did Trump know?
Post by: D3RANG3D on December 07, 2023, 07:14:20 PM
Post by: D3RANG3D on December 10, 2023, 01:00:08 PM
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https://twitter.com/070guy/status/1733835886524047389
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Post by: D3RANG3D on December 11, 2023, 02:56:59 PM
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Post by: Nintex on December 12, 2023, 05:08:24 PM
Post by: chronovore on December 12, 2023, 09:13:16 PM
https://youtu.be/G6BgrXnpNMY
I ain’t watching that.
Dude cosplayed into an insurrection and then complained when the jail didn’t offer vegan kibble.
Fuck him sideways until he publicly recants every decision he’s ever made.
Post by: D3RANG3D on December 13, 2023, 12:55:50 PM
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Post by: D3RANG3D on January 08, 2024, 08:27:26 PM
:whew
Post by: D3RANG3D on January 25, 2024, 03:49:20 PM
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