It glows.
Sony has no shame. Are they really going to try to sell screens on controllers having seen Nintendo innovate that approach with the WiiU? Ripping off rumble from the N64 controller, motion controls with the Sixaxis, and now SCREENS with this unnamed PS4 controller, I have never been more disappointed. Can they not come up with an innovative idea for once in their companies lives? At least with the Vita they at least tried to innovate with rear touch panel capabilities, but this is just getting ridiculous. Sony I sincerely hope you change your plans while you have the time. Maybe then will I consider dropping money on this travesty.
It begins. Still no concave triggers, eh?
(http://www.destructoid.com//ul/244985-ibb.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/cyC6kfL.gif)
What's so innovative about a touchpad? That's been around for at least 20 years.
still no picks of the fucking triggers. fucking fucks
Be sure to visit our YouTube page in the coming days as we present the evolution of PlayStation and recap our greatest moments. Then, be the first to know on February 20th, 2013 at 6:00pm Eastern Time.
Looks like a 3rd party controller
http://www.jp.playstation.com/cp/2013spring_psvita/
Starts in 8hrs
Kawano (SCEJ head) will be the presenter
Live Streaming on UStream: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/psvita2013
Evolution of PS3
I'm going to when I get my college grant money. I'm probably not ever going to buy a PS4, but it's more exciting to GET HYPE over
2 more days and Wii U is shit-binned in the market for good.
2 more days and Wii U is shit-binned in the market for good.
I was talking to some ex sony peeps this weekend but the one that still works there didnt show up so I couldnt ask anything :(
Eel: i think that game streaming will be a lot better next gen somehow, im not technical that much but in theory you could put much of the game in the increased ram and play when its buffered
You can already see games like diablo and wow being playable when youve only downloaded a small bit.
I was talking to some ex sony peeps this weekend but the one that still works there didnt show up so I couldnt ask anything :(
Eel: i think that game streaming will be a lot better next gen somehow, im not technical that much but in theory you could put much of the game in the increased ram and play when its buffered
You can already see games like diablo and wow being playable when youve only downloaded a small bit.
When Sony unveils its new PlayStation device this week, it will be far cheaper than many experts had expected — a price tag that, it is hoped, will lure millions of customers into buying its latest video games console.
Industry sources and leaked internal documents suggest that Sony is considering pricing the new device at about £300, more than £100 cheaper than the starting cost of its predecessor, the PlayStation 3.
I was talking to some ex sony peeps this weekend but the one that still works there didnt show up so I couldnt ask anything :(
Eel: i think that game streaming will be a lot better next gen somehow, im not technical that much but in theory you could put much of the game in the increased ram and play when its buffered
You can already see games like diablo and wow being playable when youve only downloaded a small bit.
Games are not videos,buffering will do shit(make every game like 10x Killzone 2).If server could see the future(accurately predict your moves) that would be another story.
Higher compression ratios---more power needed to decompress,but less bandwidth used and quicker server response are the key.
Anyone else looking forward to LAIR 2? You hold your arms out like wings and flap them because you are the dragon. Open your mouth and forcibly exhale to shoot fire. :omg :hyper
that'd be impressive as shit...$300-$350 right?
I don't think anyone at The Times has seen anything about British pricing.
I think what they might have seen is things that others have seen - like the Japanese press reporting a price tag 'over 40,000 yen'.
That would be somewhere around £300.
It would more likely cost more than that in the UK if it winds up being >=40,000 yen, but they've just done a straight conversion in this report.
I was talking to some ex sony peeps this weekend but the one that still works there didnt show up so I couldnt ask anything :(
Eel: i think that game streaming will be a lot better next gen somehow, im not technical that much but in theory you could put much of the game in the increased ram and play when its buffered
You can already see games like diablo and wow being playable when youve only downloaded a small bit.
Games are not videos,buffering will do shit(make every game like 10x Killzone 2).If server could see the future(accurately predict your moves) that would be another story.
Higher compression ratios---more power needed to decompress,but less bandwidth used and quicker server response are the key.
Maxy it does make a difference but it depends how a game is built and how it accesses the resources.
Damn Maxy you are right, i was thinking under the notion that the ps4 would emulate the game then, but obviously thats impossible next gen :(I was just talking about Gaikai.
300 pounds local UK price is an entirely different animal to 399 usdno way it can ship that cheap at launch
399 usd? seems pretty doable, and they might even have cheaper or more expensive skus. given that we have no idea about power of the hardware it seems like as good a number as any
$399 tard pack
$449 premium pack
The ps3 is still $299. This bitch is going to be expensive.
The ps3 is still $299. This bitch is going to be expensive.
countries such as Canada
Yoshihisa Hashimoto (Agni's Philosophy guy) posted this on facebook.
行ってきまーす。
sonytards are actually tracking the flight kaz is taking
You'll see this game very soon.
What I know has been confirmed with the appropriate mods. All is well.
Versus lives.
I guess what I'm asking is: Versus is now a next-gen title, is that what Zeal means?QuoteThis week's Famitsu has some interesting comments from Versus XIII director Tetsuya Nomura regarding the game's progress.I'll leave you with that. Peace.
According to him, he has some news on the project and is almost ready to reveal a lot of info for us (finally) - but some "totally unrelated" reasons, he can't. He's also not allowed to talk about the situation stopping him, and all he can do is "continue discussions" - with who, it isn't said.
2014 is when you'll find out the release date is 2017
It should be right at midnight here in Poland so I am good :pimp
2300 in the Uk sounds doable :-*2300 is just the start,the real fun will begin after the conference so be prepared to stay awake as long as you can. Gaf will probably be down though.I expect Sony to really hit this hard,they have to.
This *insert month* in US,*insert price*...preorder now
This *insert month* in US,*insert price*...preorder now
I'm not expecting a price. They might, but I think they'd have good reasons to hold back on one. Show some general stuff to have the sonyspacks juicing their pants, let them stew in it for a few months, then announce a price at E3 -- by then they'll pay anything. Microsoft may announce stuff before E3 too, so it would give them a chance to react / adjust their price accordingly.
If this shit has 2 cameras packed in then how it can retail for $400?Those cameras are dirt cheap.If leaks are correct we are talking about two 720p cameras,not exactly high end these days.We are talking about not even 2 megapixels combined.
If this shit has 2 cameras packed in then how it can retail for $400?
NEXT GEN IS AMONG US BREHTHREN. (http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/rejoice.png)(http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/stylin.gif)(http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/stylin.gif)(http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/stylin.gif)(http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/stylin.gif)(http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/stylin.gif)(http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/stylin.gif)(http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/stylin.gif)(http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/stylin.gif)(http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/stylin.gif)(http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/stylin.gif)(http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/stylin.gif)(http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/stylin.gif)(http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/stylin.gif)(http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/stylin.gif)(http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/stylin.gif)
Many L's will be had! From all three companies! (http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/whoo.png)
Tomorrow we will all (http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/eating%20good.gif) our just reward for enduring the longest, tiresome generation of interactive entertainment.
Then we'll all forget about it all on Thursday cuz hey...it's Sony. (http://www.the-coli.com/mysmiliesvb/mysmilie_2853.gif)
Hopefully we finally get those 2 HDMI and 3 gigabit network ports.
...I can't be the only person who found the GT series as boring as dogshit, right?Have you ever played them with a racing wheel? It's the best casual racing simulator series I've tried.
feel em ups
feel em ups
omg yes
this is in reference to emotional art games, right?
(http://i.imgur.com/3Ls3z.gif)
I thought you meant this type of feel 'em ups.
feel em ups
omg yes
this is in reference to emotional art games, right?
I want to say Joe used it in a steam recommendation of dear esther.
feel em ups
omg yes
this is in reference to emotional art games, right?
I want to say Joe used it in a steam recommendation of dear esther.
He said sad em up, totally different subgenre.
Orbis is also following the path first set by Xbox Live: our source says "most" of the PS4's online features will require a premium subscription to use. Sony's new online service will be called PlayStation World, our source says, replacing PlayStation Plus
A reliable Kotaku source has informed us that the PlayStation 4, codenamed Orbis, will be out this November in the United States.
Our source—the same reliable source who back in early 2012 told us the codename for Sony's next console and the codename for Microsoft's next console—tells us that there are two models planned for the new machine, and that pricing won't be announced until later this year, possibly around E3. The current plan, our source says, is to release them at $429 and $529, but that could change.
Orbis is also following the path first set by Xbox Live: our source says "most" of the PS4's online features will require a premium subscription to use. Sony's new online service will be called PlayStation World, our source says, replacing PlayStation Plus.
thekevindent @TheKevinDent
Source: PS4 will retail for around $350-$430 depending on SKU
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@SteveStreza everything that I have heard is that pricing will be announced tomorrow.
thekevindent @TheKevinDent
.@evildeadron yep, but expect to pay a LOT more for services like MP and voice.
hekevindent @TheKevinDent
The new console war won't be a war for dollars, but for penny's. The jam is in mapping services over games and hardware. Penny's mean more!
thekevindent @TheKevinDent
Expect Sony's announcement tomorrow to center around tiered services.
just realized why im not as tired of current gen as everyone else: i just joined like four years ago :-\
judging by these prices its gonna be another loooong wait
QuoteOrbis is also following the path first set by Xbox Live: our source says "most" of the PS4's online features will require a premium subscription to use. Sony's new online service will be called PlayStation World, our source says, replacing PlayStation Plus.
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Quotethekevindent @TheKevinDent
Source: PS4 will retail for around $350-$430 depending on SKUQuotethekevindent @TheKevinDent
@SteveStreza everything that I have heard is that pricing will be announced tomorrow.Quotethekevindent @TheKevinDent
.@evildeadron yep, but expect to pay a LOT more for services like MP and voice.Quotehekevindent @TheKevinDent
The new console war won't be a war for dollars, but for penny's. The jam is in mapping services over games and hardware. Penny's mean more!Quotethekevindent @TheKevinDent
Expect Sony's announcement tomorrow to center around tiered services.
QuoteOrbis is also following the path first set by Xbox Live: our source says "most" of the PS4's online features will require a premium subscription to use. Sony's new online service will be called PlayStation World, our source says, replacing PlayStation Plus.
My free years of Plus better carry over or I'm gonna raise hell about getting cheated out of my free thing I cheated IGN out of. :maf
Scared?
See history(Vita vs 3DS)
Well the Wii U does have about the same amount of killer apps: 0
I really wanted to get a Virtual Boy at one point. :-\
just a gut-reaction - there is no fucking WAY i am subscribing to TWO of these services even if i end up buying both consoles
Amazing
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Anybody who can drop an Airplane! reference is good in my book. :roflAmazing
(http://i.minus.com/iIxzk8NrwpWc5.gif)
shitbox confirmed, Orbis pre-order placed
What time is this stupid thing going down? 8 p.m. est?thats 2am GMT :o
Meet the Future of PlayStation With Us
battlefield 4 moneyhats
Gustav Halling (lead gameplay designer at DICE) just tweeted this:https://twitter.com/gustavhalling/st...28241898246144
"@gustavhalling: Good morning! So tonight we can finally officially kick off the gen4 console year with Sony's press conference, going to be a fun year!"
Bah, going to be at work
13.5 hours from now. 6 PM EST, midnight CET.
:lol
Gotta say there is some unhealthy and unrealistic hype going on about this unveiling. I don't know if Sony can upheld it... they are not Apple. But then it's been 8 years since the last Playstation home console. People are fucking STARVED of next-gen.
While we’re all anxiously awaiting the conference later today, Sony is rewarding “loyal” PSN members with a voucher for $10 dollars. You can find a picture of the message above, which strongly implies we will see something huge at the conference later today. This will most likely come in the form of the PlayStation 4, but it could also be something else I suppose.
In any case, you might want to check your messages to see if you’ve been “loyal” enough to earn the voucher. Going off what I’ve heard from others, it seems to have nothing to do with when your account was created or trophy total, so it might just be for playing on the PlayStation 3 an absurd amount of time. Whatever the case might be, it’s nice to see Sony rewarding their “loyal” fans with a small bonus.
His worship is nowhere more obvious than on the gaming forum NeoGAF and its PlayStation Meeting thread, which currently carries over 13,000 posts. Initially filled with the habitual declarations of enthusiasm and animated 'hype' GIFs of people in various states of intense excitement, over time the thread has slowly become something of a Hirai shrine.
"Unlike some other public faces of gaming companies that are either clumsy or insincere, Kaz feels like he's completely genuine," said Tusken77, another of the thread's regulars who created a series of movie images with Hirai superimposed.
"Of course, being there from the early days and every step of the way with the PlayStation brand only strengthens his credibility. A man in a very powerful position, but also 'one of us'. He's grown alongside PlayStation. He's passionate and understands the hardcore gamer."
Juancho9, another NeoGAF member, added: "We really know nothing about the guy, but I think he's been smart in being vocal and active in at the very least looking like he's interested in what gamers actually want in their video game systems."
"He stood his ground during the infamous PSN hacking, when I think a lesser man would have quit," NeoGAF member Farrow told CVG.
Fellow forumite Tusken77 added: "His journey with PlayStation, the connection to the core gamer, his fun personality, and the respect shown with the deep bow during the PSN hack apology press conference are some of the reasons why his popularity continues to grow".
"Unlike some other public faces of gaming companies that are either clumsy or insincere, Kaz feels like he's completely genuine," said Tusken77, another of the thread's regulars who created a series of movie images with Hirai superimposed."Of course, being there from the early days and every step of the way with the PlayStation brand only strengthens his credibility. A man in a very powerful position, but also 'one of us'. He's grown alongside PlayStation. He's passionate and understands the hardcore gamer."
(http://www.justpushstart.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Screen-Shot-2013-02-20-at-1.44.28-AM-480x300.png)QuoteWhile we’re all anxiously awaiting the conference later today, Sony is rewarding “loyal” PSN members with a voucher for $10 dollars. You can find a picture of the message above, which strongly implies we will see something huge at the conference later today. This will most likely come in the form of the PlayStation 4, but it could also be something else I suppose.
In any case, you might want to check your messages to see if you’ve been “loyal” enough to earn the voucher. Going off what I’ve heard from others, it seems to have nothing to do with when your account was created or trophy total, so it might just be for playing on the PlayStation 3 an absurd amount of time. Whatever the case might be, it’s nice to see Sony rewarding their “loyal” fans with a small bonus.
Developers from Ubisoft Montreal, Sony Santa Monica Studios, Bungie and Quantic Dream are amassing in New York City in time for today's PlayStation 2013 Meeting, scheduled to begin at 6 p.m. EST.
It is unknown whether they will simply be in the audience or make a formal announcement; however, taking to Twitter, numerous designers including the developers behind God of War have hinted they will be attending today's Sony event.
"What does our future hold for tomorrow? We heard they may open Pandoras Box (again) live on stage, that would be AWESOME #playstation2013," wrote Sony Santa Monica.
Watch dogs lead designer Jonathan Morin revealed he is also in New York as of Feb. 19, stating: "I just cross Moen, Markov and Pacioretty in my hotel in NY :). Awesome!," while Quantic Dream CEO Guillaume de Fondaumiere also teased he is in town, tweeting: "New York, -6 Celcius and clear sky :-)..."
Dave Lang of Iron Galaxy Studios revealed he would be in the audience for tonight's show, writing: "If you are watching the Sony stream tomorrow: I'm the one in the crowd with the "When's Marvel" sign." In addition, Capabara Games president Nathan Vella will also be in attendance, writing: "Flight boarded... On my way to NYC. See tons of you there :)"
While rumors of a Battlefield 4 announcement have been circling, DICE's Gustav Halling remained mum, saying only: "I honestly have no clue what Sony is showing tonight, as much speculation as everyone else but I can make realistic guesses."
Polygon hears that Epic Games vice president Mark Rein will be in town, while we spotted Bungie composer Marty O'Donnell coming out of the event venue last night.
Polygon will be attending today's show. Stay tuned for full coverage and live blogging throughout, starting at 6 p.m. EST.
Developers from Ubisoft Montreal, Sony Santa Monica Studios, Bungie and Quantic Dream are amassing in New York City in time for today's PlayStation 2013 Meeting, scheduled to begin at 6 p.m. EST.
It is unknown whether they will simply be in the audience or make a formal announcement; however, taking to Twitter, numerous designers including the developers behind God of War have hinted they will be attending today's Sony event.
"What does our future hold for tomorrow? We heard they may open Pandoras Box (again) live on stage, that would be AWESOME #playstation2013," wrote Sony Santa Monica.
Watch dogs lead designer Jonathan Morin revealed he is also in New York as of Feb. 19, stating: "I just cross Moen, Markov and Pacioretty in my hotel in NY :). Awesome!," while Quantic Dream CEO Guillaume de Fondaumiere also teased he is in town, tweeting: "New York, -6 Celcius and clear sky :-)..."
Dave Lang of Iron Galaxy Studios revealed he would be in the audience for tonight's show, writing: "If you are watching the Sony stream tomorrow: I'm the one in the crowd with the "When's Marvel" sign." In addition, Capabara Games president Nathan Vella will also be in attendance, writing: "Flight boarded... On my way to NYC. See tons of you there :)"
While rumors of a Battlefield 4 announcement have been circling, DICE's Gustav Halling remained mum, saying only: "I honestly have no clue what Sony is showing tonight, as much speculation as everyone else but I can make realistic guesses."
Polygon hears that Epic Games vice president Mark Rein will be in town, while we spotted Bungie composer Marty O'Donnell coming out of the event venue last night.
http://www.polygon.com/2013/2/20/4008362/watch-dogs-god-of-war-halo-and-beyond-developers-amassing-in-nyc-inQuoteDevelopers from Ubisoft Montreal, Sony Santa Monica Studios, Bungie and Quantic Dream are amassing in New York City in time for today's PlayStation 2013 Meeting, scheduled to begin at 6 p.m. EST.
It is unknown whether they will simply be in the audience or make a formal announcement; however, taking to Twitter, numerous designers including the developers behind God of War have hinted they will be attending today's Sony event.
"What does our future hold for tomorrow? We heard they may open Pandoras Box (again) live on stage, that would be AWESOME #playstation2013," wrote Sony Santa Monica.
Watch dogs lead designer Jonathan Morin revealed he is also in New York as of Feb. 19, stating: "I just cross Moen, Markov and Pacioretty in my hotel in NY :). Awesome!," while Quantic Dream CEO Guillaume de Fondaumiere also teased he is in town, tweeting: "New York, -6 Celcius and clear sky :-)..."
Dave Lang of Iron Galaxy Studios revealed he would be in the audience for tonight's show, writing: "If you are watching the Sony stream tomorrow: I'm the one in the crowd with the "When's Marvel" sign." In addition, Capabara Games president Nathan Vella will also be in attendance, writing: "Flight boarded... On my way to NYC. See tons of you there :)"
While rumors of a Battlefield 4 announcement have been circling, DICE's Gustav Halling remained mum, saying only: "I honestly have no clue what Sony is showing tonight, as much speculation as everyone else but I can make realistic guesses."
Polygon hears that Epic Games vice president Mark Rein will be in town, while we spotted Bungie composer Marty O'Donnell coming out of the event venue last night.
Polygon will be attending today's show. Stay tuned for full coverage and live blogging throughout, starting at 6 p.m. EST.
Are you ready,Borys?
Can you possibly update time left in thread title?
Yeah but I cannot update the title in Real-Time...
Twitch.tv will probably crash from a million+ trying to view it. Any alternate streams?
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/3ee7751705b9f6d9abfdccfec2077288/tumblr_mhsjg7WVlc1s5o3aso1_400.gif)Okay, that gif is now old.
Just had a revelation: what if FF: Versus 13 is shown again this time on PS4? And it looks awesome :hyper
Many a tears will be shed tonight by butthurt Ninfags after seeing real-time PS4 demos and studios on board......... I hope they stocked up on Luigi-branded handkerchiefs!
Here's a genuine prediction Borys, from me to you, because I love you :
Underwhelming sections caused by Sony having to PR manage the last 6 years, give the PSVita some attention, and to explain the add-ons to the new controller.
Initial widespread praise and excitement for good looking titles.
Sony's drones - who have experienced 6 years of brutal market adjustment and abuse at the hands of Microsoft and Nintendo fans - will try and claim some kind of pyrrhic victory. It will probably make forums around the Internet quite obnoxious; the equivalent to talking with children who have their fingers in their ears.
At this conference, or at E3 -- we will learn that Backwards compatibility comes at a cost. More Sony online services will come at a cost than ever before.
At this conference, or at E3 -- the price will be announced. It is unlikely to be mass-market low.
Following this conference, and at E3 -- the competition will roll out their real guns.
As the days and months roll on, the passage of time will begin to erode knee-jerk excitement. The implications of cost and the competition will be more closely considered by all sane gamers.
By November, sites will be doing Digital-Foundry-esque comparison pieces (for hits) that point out where PS4 games fall short against PC games, or against Durango games. Services will be compared bang-for-buck too.
At some point, a niggle or problem, or an unsatisfactory experience will be encountered that causes all these months of hype to backfire. Gakai stuff might be a key area here.
In the long-term, Sony will continue to be a bit-part player, not an innovator. They will continue to have a reasonable, rather than exceptional, piece of the pie. Their fans will be as nothing, directionless, with nothing special to gloat about, until - as in 2010/11 - Nintendo and Microsoft start diverting resources to successor systems.
Search your feelings. You know this is how it plays out.
The days of PlayStation being a giant in gaming are over. [/troll]
If this shit doesn't get me excited for some "next gen" stuff then I might be done with gaming. I just don't care that much anymore about it.
WHY AM I NOT SICK!!!!?
WHY AM I NOT SICK!!!!?Eat raw potato.
UE4 helmet demo screen:
Resurrecting this thread for tonight's news.
You can all kiss my feet after mocking me.
Not for Vita, but home consoles :)
Resurrecting this thread for tonight's news.
You can all kiss my feet after mocking me.
Not for Vita, but home consoles :) (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=47976333&postcount=106)
The Dutch website Gamer.nl has looked through the filed trademarks from Sony studios and they found out that Evolution Studios (of Motorstorm fame) have registered the trademark 'Drive Club'.
Source
They filed the trademark on February 13th 2012 through the website of United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO). Earlier there were already rumors of a new racegame from Evolution Studios so this fits in nicely.
The source is in Dutch so I've extracted all information I could extract from the news item.
Hopefully we'll hear more about this game at the Sony conference today!
Apologies if old or not thread-worthy.
UPDATE: Trademark taken offline. That was fast!
It begins!QuoteThe Dutch website Gamer.nl has looked through the filed trademarks from Sony studios and they found out that Evolution Studios (of Motorstorm fame) have registered the trademark 'Drive Club'.
Source
They filed the trademark on February 13th 2012 through the website of United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO). Earlier there were already rumors of a new racegame from Evolution Studios so this fits in nicely.
The source is in Dutch so I've extracted all information I could extract from the news item.
Hopefully we'll hear more about this game at the Sony conference today!
Apologies if old or not thread-worthy.
UPDATE: Trademark taken offline. That was fast!
MCDONALDS! :cookiem
IRC says there's too many connections from my IP :lol
I'll get in somehow.
IRC says there's too many connections from my IP :lol
I'll get in somehow.
Yeah, I thought OMG someone else at my workplace is a borian.... But no, chat is just a budget POS
maxy get on the chattrying >:(
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:bow
Goddamn chat is stuck at the loading screen!!! :'(
Goddamn chat is stuck at the loading screen!!! :'(
don't use mibbit, it won't connect. if you've got irc use that. if you have a phone, and have android, use qirc lite. server is irc.wiicafe.com, default port, channel #evilbore.I'm on it.
GAF is down :lol
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BDk35jJCYAAGTZB.jpg)
:usacry
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A thousand roads lead men forever to NeoGAF:lol
QuoteA thousand roads lead men forever to NeoGAF:lol
:lolGuess I'll hang with you guys.
GAF is up again, go back there.
:[Guess I'll hang with you guys.
GAF is up again, go back there.
I know but I hate fuckers that come here only when banned over there or where there is not working.I haven't come here in years, lick the nuts.
Fuck him :punch
Is there any place I can watch this stream on my Vita?
17:14 [N] irc.wiicafe.com *** You are banned from DorksNet (Session limit exceeded)Just happened to me...
17:14 AV wut
17:14 ** connection lost. Trying to re-connect... **
17:15 ** Reconnected! **
17:15 [N] irc.wiicafe.com *** Looking up your hostname...
17:15 [N] irc.wiicafe.com *** Found your hostname (cached)
17:15 [N] irc.wiicafe.com *** You are banned from DorksNet (Session limit exceeded)
Evilore is like Nintendo. He never learns and sucks with online
Guys try the second web client linked in OP. It should work better than mibbit.
Is there any place I can watch this stream on my Vita?
I think it's twitch or ustream that work on iphone (w/o flash), so try
http://www.twitch.tv/playstation/
http://www.ustream.tv/PlayStation
Is there any place I can watch this stream on my Vita?
I think it's twitch or ustream that work on iphone (w/o flash), so try
http://www.twitch.tv/playstation/
http://www.ustream.tv/PlayStation
both dont work
nothing left?
Is there any place I can watch this stream on my Vita?
I think it's twitch or ustream that work on iphone (w/o flash), so try
http://www.twitch.tv/playstation/
http://www.ustream.tv/PlayStation
both dont work
nothing left?
you can try the gametrailers link, but I don't think it'll work, and I'm not aware of any others. sort of an oversight considering it's streaming in Playstation Home.
http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/ogkw5w/playstation-4---live-stream
Yo get ChatZilla for FireFox
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/chatzilla/
server irc.gamecubecafe.com (leave channel blank)
then type /join #evilbore
meh I connect to IRC, it tells me I'm not registered and boots me.
Yo get ChatZilla for FireFox
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/chatzilla/
server irc.gamecubecafe.com (leave channel blank)
then type /join #evilbore
no one else here knows if there's a way to watch this on Vita?
Alright then, are any of you aware if there's gonna be a youtube stream for this then as my last option?http://www.youtube.com/user/PlayStation
banned
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No xbots allowed.
Yo get ChatZilla for FireFox
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/chatzilla/
server irc.gamecubecafe.com (leave channel blank)
then type /join #evilbore
yo this has worked for me, requoting for anyone
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Add this
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I still cant get on chat. Now im banned from dorksnet.
booted from the stream.
<PhoenixDark> It's Pedo Tiesto
:rofl
where is this chat?
enhanced GPU -- a paintbrush
enhanced GPU -- a paintbrushdrawing your own graphics is interactive fun, whether you are playing by yourself or have fun with the the whole family.
still using HDDs? i would've thought solid state would rear its head this gen
it was also a cinematic trailer, I doubt it would look that good
it was also a cinematic trailer, I doubt it would look that good
Prole are you ok
:rofl
MS can pack its bags. They are done for.
BLIZZARD OWNS THE IP FOR STREAMING AND DOWNLOADING; WE WILL SEE TITAN TONIGHTBALLS ALL OVER MY FACE
this nicca made alladin? fuuuuuuu
one of my favorite games
Shiny guy?
I don't think they did aladdin though...unless shiny was born out of capcom
I don't think they did aladdin though...unless shiny was born out of capcom
fffuuuuu
the snes version was better :maf
yuck
(http://i.imgur.com/KvbocTm.jpg)
wait now i'm really confused. they weren't the same game at all, but there was a port of the snes verson to the genesis?
I are confused
Anything of note, or just marketing stuff so far?
Free Vita with every PS4.
Please fucking buy one. :lol
this guy has a peculiar accent.
staggered release...could that mean PS3 BC later on?
staggered release...could that mean PS3 BC later on?
So people with shit internet can go spin. :lolPoor America :usacry
So basically pray your PS3 never craps the bed.
So basically pray your PS3 never craps the bed.
can someone do me a solid and post a working stream
can someone do me a solid and post a working stream
I can guarantee right now that I will never use the Share button to make a video.
Here we go... Drive Club, don't let me down.I don't think that trademark was for a game :X
Where the hell is this guy from?
does ANYONE care about Calzone?
does ANYONE care about Calzone?A couple of Sony fanboys who refuse to buy non-Sony games?
Did they seriously announce another Killzone game ???
Fuck me. :lol
Without Online. You're basically only using a smidgen of the consoles potential.
This guy is getting a boner talking about this game.
A RACING GAME NOT ABOUT CARS OR RACING OR WINNING
BUT ABOUT PEOPLE
:zzz
POLITICS
KEANU REEVES IS IN INFAMOUS
SONY FRANCHISE: SUBTITLE
SONY FRANCHISE: SUBTITLE
So Gaf will be dick riding Jonathon Blow from here on out.
So Gaf will be dick riding Jonathon Blow from here on out.
I thought they already did with Braid
So Gaf will be dick riding Jonathon Blow from here on out.
I thought they already did with Braid
Jonathon Blow is Peter Molyneux level toxic on Gaf.
where the fuck are japanese gamesNot many Japanese developers left with the budget or expertise for next gen production I'd guess. We know they struggled with the PS3/360 tech.
why is this happening
Old tech demo :lol
Square has nothing prepared.
50 Cent Blood on the Sand 2!!!
Watch_Dogs
I notice one word is missing from all these guys.
'Exclusive'
So what if it's FF15 for PS4 and Versus will actually get released on PS3?
Always on DRM confirmed for PS4? :teehee
I really hope Sony hasn't moneyhatted this :lolIf its Sony-exclusive, of course they have.
FUCK. How could they do it? Blizzard does not need Sony money. What have they done.
Diablo 3 on consoles will be worth it for the rage tears alone. It'll make Nintendo fans look like paradigms of stoicism.
Diablo 3 on consoles will be worth it for the rage tears alone. It'll make Nintendo fans look like paradigms of stoicism.
Really? Blizzard fans?Diablo 3 on consoles will be worth it for the rage tears alone. It'll make Nintendo fans look like paradigms of stoicism.
I'm not sure anyone will care enough to get mad tbh
Diablo 3 on consoles will be worth it for the rage tears alone. It'll make Nintendo fans look like paradigms of stoicism.
oh it's already happening
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7922984490
(http://i.imgur.com/L6dwYAk.png)Is this an album cover?
:rofl
Beginning was good when going over the connection features. Japan's new game looks alright. The rest was pretty underwhelming until D3 and bungi
(http://i.imgur.com/L6dwYAk.png)Is this an album cover?
:rofl
Is Geoff in the old TRL Studio?
No EA? No BF4? No hardware design?
so what exactly are people finding disappointing?Well it was a console reveal that didn't reveal the console for one ;)
so what exactly are people finding disappointing?
so what exactly are people finding disappointing?
God, Borys couldn't have been trolled harder (well I guess there could have been more black presenters). Good job Sony.
Truth... they stabbed me straight through my heart. Worst I have felt since MS took Halo 1 to the Xbox and that was like 12 years ago.
FUCK YOU BLIZZARD
so what exactly are people finding disappointing?Well it was a console reveal that didn't reveal the console for one ;)
no first party, no careSucker Punch and Evolution were both there
so what exactly are people finding disappointing?
missed everything before watch dogs. anyone wanna through out some highlights?-Racing game not about cars or racing but people / speaker poppin boners
Predictions pulled hot and fresh straight out of my ass:
- A LBP demo which uses the camera thing they have (say, perhaps seeing your actual hands reaching inside the LBP world and moving shit around to do the creation), maybe full 3D platforming/creation this time
- a really pretty Killzone animated film, because apparently Sony still labors under the delusion that people give a shit about the Killzone world or universe or whatever
- Infamous-type game with real-time world destruction, will look really cool and not be able to pull off half the shit they show when the final version releases
- Uncharted: Spinoff announced but not shown, maybe featuring a younger Sully or that chick from the Vita game
- lots of pinching and swiping on that new controller, but don't let your anuses clench up too tight, it's all bullet-point feature BS and will disappear from most games a year after launch
- lots of social feature sharing stuff, and while screenshots and game videos are neat 95% of people will neverever use them (but I will watch them!)
- BIG PS+ push, that's where the money is now, and that's where the BC will be. Gamestreaming all over the place, neat idea 10 years from now but will run like stuttering shit here in the present
- mentions of stuff like BF4 being on par with PC version, 64 players, full Frostbite engine, etc.
God, Borys couldn't have been trolled harder (well I guess there could have been more black presenters). Good job Sony.
Truth... they stabbed me straight through my heart. Worst I have felt since MS took Halo 1 to the Xbox and that was like 12 years ago.
FUCK YOU BLIZZARD
Yeah, cause you're such a pc gamer in general and Diablo gamer in particular
stfu you fucking fraud
Principles, man. Principles.
stfu, you SE loving wart on the ass of humanity
#banborys
so what exactly are people finding disappointing?Well it was a console reveal that didn't reveal the console for one ;)
stfu, you SE loving wart on the ass of humanity
#banborys
Was your pizza at least good?
I hope the cruncheons poops on this on the next cast.
I'm mostly teasing the silliness of it all.so what exactly are people finding disappointing?Well it was a console reveal that didn't reveal the console for one ;)
i don't really see how that ruins the entire presentation. i mean the actual console itself is not really relevant.
Whatever. Eel didn't call Diablo 3 like that guy on GAF did.
Still cannot believe Watch Dogs had tearing.
didn't really give any good reason to run out and buy a PS4 besides "hey remember our PS3 franchises? Its those but with new subtitles!"
The best part of the conference for me? My wife coming home near the end and casually asking "So which one are you gonna buy: Microsoft or Sony?"
Family finances conversation avoided. Score.
/shrug.Well I never called it shitty or dog shit. And the rest is just the bore being thebore. You should know how things work
I found the presentation to be exactly what it needed to be. It tells us the key features and ideas behind the console. It shows up there will be developer support. It shows us there will be some known games and some unknown games.
Calling it shitty or dog shit seems like extreme hyperbole.
The "community" is taking this about as well as you would expect from such a collection of mature people
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/3354739/
Borys would fit right in, most of those people haven't played much/any D3 either :teehee
Finally Quitting Diablo 3 - After PS4 Announcemt
/shrug.
I found the presentation to be exactly what it needed to be. It tells us the key features and ideas behind the console. It shows up there will be developer support. It shows us there will be some known games and some unknown games.
Calling it shitty or dog shit seems like extreme hyperbole.
The best part of the conference for me? My wife coming home near the end and casually asking "So which one are you gonna buy: Microsoft or Sony?"
Family finances conversation avoided. Score.
Nintendo isn't in the mix?
My favorite part was Blow taking a snarky shot at the other games, bet he was reeeeal popular backstage after that
Overall it felt like a meeting that was quickly mashed together in order to get the word out before MS.
system itself sounds cool
games were zzzzzzzzzzzzz
will buy in a few years when there's a bunch of cheap stuff i want to play
The best part of the conference for me? My wife coming home near the end and casually asking "So which one are you gonna buy: Microsoft or Sony?"
Family finances conversation avoided. Score.
At least we can finally put to rest the notion that the weeeeeooooooooooooo is in any way going to be competitive with these actual next gen machines, that's one benefit of today.
/shrug.
I found the presentation to be exactly what it needed to be. It tells us the key features and ideas behind the console. It shows up there will be developer support. It shows us there will be some known games and some unknown games.
Calling it shitty or dog shit seems like extreme hyperbole.
At least we can finally put to rest the notion that the weeeeeooooooooooooo is in any way going to be competitive with these actual next gen machines, that's one benefit of today.Nintendo's waiting to show the dongle last.
At least we can finally put to rest the notion that the weeeeeooooooooooooo is in any way going to be competitive with these actual next gen machines, that's one benefit of today.
your cock isn't out of your pants yet but you are toying with your zipper
8 US GIGABYTES OF GRAPHIC DOUBLE DATA RATE FIVE MEMORY
/shrug.
I found the presentation to be exactly what it needed to be. It tells us the key features and ideas behind the console. It shows up there will be developer support. It shows us there will be some known games and some unknown games.
Calling it shitty or dog shit seems like extreme hyperbole.
yeah, it's not that bad, but it is underwhelming.
Everything remotely exciting was about the OS. The streaming stuff is very cool, and the share stuff is the best part of onlive. But the hardware power wasn't conveyed well.
Microsoft can easily smoke this reveal. As long as they don't go too Kinect 2.0 heavy.
yeah, it's not that bad, but it is underwhelming.
Everything remotely exciting was about the OS. The streaming stuff is very cool, and the share stuff is the best part of onlive. But the hardware power wasn't conveyed well. No explanation about how the new controller matters for games (touchpad, camera tracking. No real mention of the camera. No shot of the consoles.
And it was just lacking on the software side. As much as I like Infamous, it's all samey games, like PS3+. I kept expecting Killzone 4 to pan out and you could fly around the city in one of those planes. Nope. It's straight up a prettier killzone shoter.
Is it as bad as that Xbox 360 MTV thing? no, but that wasn't 2 hours long.
seriously, though, streaming stuff to the Vita is really neat if it really minimizes the lag.
My favorite part was Blow taking a snarky shot at the other games, bet he was reeeeal popular backstage after thatIf I wanted to watch pointless explosions, I'd go see "A Good Day to Die Hard."
i haven't really been keeping up with this, but didn't the leak specs state it'd have 4gb ddr5 ram?
of course a blown up picture will look like shit
Watch Dogs and Deep Down both looked pretty cool, don't care about PS4 though.
Its a resized screen cap of a streamed videoof course a blown up picture will look like shit
it's a screen cap of the only footage they've released - or have you seen some other footage you could link me to? i want to feel what everyone else is feeling.
http://kotaku.com/5985781/killzone-shadowfall-announced-for-ps4of course a blown up picture will look like shit
it's a screen cap of the only footage they've released - or have you seen some other footage you could link me to? i want to feel what everyone else is feeling.
Yeah well... things are looking good, no?
like i said, everything looked great except the games. it's always hilarious to me when companies push this "WE CAN DO ANYTHIIIIIIING NOW, LIMITATIONS ARE GONE" and then show the same ol' shit.
don't get me wrong, i know there's going to be some cool/interesting stuff on the system, but they certainly didn't show any of it.
Yeah well... things are looking good, no?
like i said, everything looked great except the games. it's always hilarious to me when companies push this "WE CAN DO ANYTHIIIIIIING NOW, LIMITATIONS ARE GONE" and then show the same ol' shit.
don't get me wrong, i know there's going to be some cool/interesting stuff on the system, but they certainly didn't show any of it.
- Select+Start merged into Options button, ala the Edge report
Obviously obvious that it was gonna be a waste of time, morans
Didn't the last 7 years teach you anything?
Mark Rein firing shots at Nintendo.
Watch Dogs and Deep Down both looked pretty cool, don't care about PS4 though.
Naughty Dogs game needs to be baller, because the games they showed really weren't
Deep Down looked beautiful, a bit Dark Souls or Skyrim-esque, but what is it? How does it play? What was exciting about it?
Watch_Dogs looked good again, but more moments of current gen convention are leaking through. I felt like I could see some Assassins Creed team code-sharing on the screen when he was chasing the guy down alleys and stuff. When it went into slowmo after scaling the railings, it looked exactly like the moment of hesitation before a kill in AC.
We'd already seen Destiny, Agni's Philosophy, and other stuff. I really could have done without all the developer waffling, especially from the likes of David Cage - showing us silent movies to show us that once upon a time people learned to act, and then later showing us a near lifeless old man with some eye animation. David Cage is gaming cancer. Somehow, the guy from Sucker Punch managed to deliver an even more terrible soliloquy. Abominable.
Honestly? The only impressive things they showed were the Gakai aspects of the UI and that Media Molecule sculpting thing, which quickly devolved into a horrible, scripted and not at all player-designed version of Wii Music. Horrendous.
No images of the console, no price, no Naughty Dog, no big Santa Monica game, no Studio Liverpool ( :( ), no EA, no Activision - no insane gulf on the screen that will justify $500. 8GB of GDDR5 is only nice if we see something that justifies it. Microsoft and Nintendo will be happy tonight.
link?Was on Keighley's after show thing, he was like "[Samaritan and Unreal 4] are love letters, and somebody finally wrote back." Keighley goes: "just one?" And he says something like "the first one anyway."
because share needs a fucking physical button
I'm intrigued by the material of the back. I guess no more sweaty, slipper palms? Everything looks matte as well, where I thought it the d-pad and button areas were glossy here...
because share needs a fucking physical button
I'm intrigued by the material of the back. I guess no more sweaty, slipper palms? Everything looks matte as well, where I thought it the d-pad and button areas were glossy here...
I'm intrigued that you're intrigued
because share needs a fucking physical button
because share needs a fucking physical button
how is anyone gonna use the fucking thing otherwise?
people of this generation hate shit that causes them to use a lot of motor functions :lol
the controller is busy busy busy
look at all those different blacks and textures and holes and dodads and holes and pads and light bars
because share needs a fucking physical button
how is anyone gonna use the fucking thing otherwise?
people of this generation hate shit that causes them to use a lot of motor functions :lol
50 bucks it just takes you to a menu also found one click after hitting the options button.
(http://gchart.yahoo.co.jp/w?s=6758.T&t=1y&q=c&l=off&z=m&p=m65,m130,s&a=v&c=)
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Please remove this. It makes the above image less funny.
I'm turning on my Wii U for the first time in a week hoping to catch some ninfungi reactions on Miiverse.
I...I want more Infamous.
But I already played this new one, I think. By Capcom.[img]http://gchart.yahoo.co.jp/w?s=6758.T&t=1y&q=c&l=off&z=m&p=m65,m130,s&a=v&c=[img]
RUINED THE TROLL.
Immediate Gameplay
PS4 radically reduces the lag time between players and their content. PS4 features “suspend mode” which keeps the system in a low power state while preserving the game session. The time it takes today to boot a console and load a saved game will be a thing of the past. With PS4, gamers just hit the power button again and are promptly back playing the game at the exact point where they left off.
PS4 also enables games to be downloaded or updated in the background, or even in stand-by mode. The system takes it one step further by making digital titles playable as they are being downloaded. When a player purchases a game, PS4 downloads just a fraction of the data so gamers can start playing immediately, and the rest is downloaded in the background during actual gameplay.
PS4 Second Screens
PS4 integrates second screens, including PlayStation®Vita (PS Vita), smartphones and tablets, to wrap gamers in their favorite content wherever they are. A key feature enabled by second screens is “Remote Play” and PS4 fully unlocks its potential by making PS Vita the ultimate companion device. With PS Vita, gamers will be able to seamlessly pull PS4 titles from their living room TVs and play them on PS Vita’s beautiful 5-inch display and intuitive dual analog sticks over Wi-Fi networks*1. It is SCEI’s long-term vision is to make most PS4 titles playable on PS Vita*2.
A new application from SCE called “PlayStation®App” will enable iPhone, iPad, and AndroidTM based smartphones and tablets*3 to become second screens. Once installed on these devices, users can, for example, see maps on their second screens when playing an adventure game, purchase PS4 games while away from home and download it directly to the console at home, or remotely watch other gamers playing on their devices.
I'm turning on my Wii U for the first time in a week hoping to catch some ninfungi reactions on Miiverse.
download F-Zero SNES for 30 cents!
(http://i.imgur.com/XJlNqu8.png)
<JAPAN>
45 companies in total
ACQUIRE Corp.
ARC SYSTEM WORKS CO.,LTD.
ARTDINK CORPORATION
ASCII MEDIA WORKS Inc.
Bethesda Softworks, LLC
CAPCOM
Chara-Ani Corporation
CRAFTS & MEISTER CO.,LTD.
CyberConnect2 Co.,Ltd.
D3 PUBLISHER Inc.
Dimps Corporation
Electronic Arts Inc.
FromSoftware, Inc.
GANBARION Co., Ltd.
Genki Co., Ltd.
Granzella Inc.
GRASSHOPPER MANUFACTURE INC.
GungHo Online Entertainment, Inc.
GUST CO.,LTD.
IDEA FACTORY Co., Ltd.
IMAGEEPOCH INC.
Index Corp.（ATLUS)
KADOKAWA GAMES,LTD.
KADOKAWA SHOTEN CO., LTD.
Konami Digital Entertainment Co., Ltd.
LEVEL-5 Inc.
MAGES. Inc.
MarvelousAQL Inc.
NAMCO BANDAI Games Inc.
NAMCO BANDAI Studios Inc.
NIHON FALCOM CORPORATION
Nippon Ichi Software, Inc.
O-TWO inc. (peakvox)
PlatinumGames Inc.
SEGA Corporation
SPIKE CHUNSOFT Co.,Ltd.
SQUARE ENIX Co., Ltd.
SystemSoft Alpha Corp.
TECMO KOEI GAMES Co.,Ltd.
TOSE CO., LTD.
tri-Ace Inc.
Ubisoft Entertainment
WILL CO., LTD
XING Inc.
YUKE'S Co.,Ltd.
<ASIA>
4 companies in total
BLUESIDE Inc.
Ratloop Asia Pte Ltd
Red Hare Studios
XPEC Entertainment Inc.
<NORTH AMERICA>
47 companies in total
17-Bit
5th Cell Media LLC
Activision Publishing, Inc.
Armature Studios
Behaviour Interactive
Bethesda Softworks, LLC
Blind Squirrel Games®
Certain Affinity, Inc.
Darkside Game Studios, Inc.
Devolver Digital
©Disney
Double Fine Productions, Inc.
Double Helix Games
DrinkBox Studios Inc.
Edge of Reality, Inc.
Electronic Arts Inc.
FarSight Studios
Gaijin Games, Inc.
Gearbox Software
HB Studios Multimedia
Heavy Iron Studios, Inc.
High Voltage Software, Inc.
inXile Entertainment Inc.
Iron Galaxy Studios, LLC
JETPACK Interactive Entertainment Ltd.
Klei Entertainment Inc.
Lab Zero, Inc
LucasArts, a Lucasfilm Ltd. company
Metanet Software Inc
Minority Media Iinc.
Nicalis, Inc
Panic Button, LLC
Psyonix Studios, Inc.
Slant Six Games
Sony Online Entertainment LLC
Spark Unlimited
Spry Fox LLC
SuperVillain Studios
Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc.
Telltale, Inc.
Tribute Games Inc.
Turtle Rock Studios, Inc.
Ubisoft Entertainment
vBlank Entertainment Inc.
Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment, Inc.
WayForward Technologies, Inc.
Zombie Studios, LLC
<EUROPE / PAL>
53 companies in total
4A Games
505 Games
Abstraction
Beatshapers
Big Ant
Big Bit
BitComposer
Bloober Team S.A.
Boss Alien
Bugbear
Cauldron
City Interactive
Criterion Games
Croteam
Curve Studios
Dakko Dakko Ltd
Deck 13
Double Eleven
Eko Software
FatShark
Flying Wildhog
Four Door Lemon
Frozenbyte
FuturLab
Gaijin
GHOST GAMES - AN EA STUDIO
Green Hill Studios
Kalyspo Media
Laughing Jackal
Ludosity
Mediatonic
Milestone
Mojang
Onmi Systems
Prodigy Design
Ripstone
Roll7
Ronimo
Rovio
Shortround
Sperasoft
Sproing
Stormbasic
Straight Right
Targem
Tate
Techland
Tonika
Torus Games
Vector Cell
Virtual Toys
Vlambeer
Wizarbox
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Please remove this. It makes the above image less funny.
given a 6+ year chart would probably be the funniest
HEY GUYS REMEMBER WHEN ATLUS WAS ON THE PS3 GAME LIST AND NEVER RELEASED A PS3 EXCLUSIVO GAME?!
Why would anyone be excited about that list? Those lists rarely pan out.
8gigs of ram on a console :drool
HEY GUYS REMEMBER WHEN ATLUS WAS ON THE PS3 GAME LIST AND NEVER RELEASED A PS3 EXCLUSIVO GAME?!
Why would anyone be excited about that list? Those lists rarely pan out.
I don't think anyone said anything about exclusives.
I still want to know what the fuck is up with Persona 5, though.
8gigs of ram on a console :drool
I fear lots of it will be tied up into system shit like saving the last few minutes of gameplay etc.
There's been a severe decrease in Kaz Gifs since the conference.
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=514552&page=5
Apparently you're jaded if you weren't wowed by Sony's games today and you don't appreciate effort
God forbid you expected a new generation of gaming to seem new.
i mean cmon this is a launch title (http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/whew.png). I'm not gonna be able to handle next gen games looking this good
http://www.abload.de/img/7czr3n.jpg
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=514552&page=5
Apparently you're jaded if you weren't wowed by Sony's games today and you don't appreciate effort
God forbid you expected a new generation of gaming to seem new.
...said the fucking nintendo fan
get outta here with that shit brospehus
This is a feature I thought Microsoft would go with, and they probably still will:
(http://i.imgur.com/lJhtBFp.jpg)
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=514552&page=5
Apparently you're jaded if you weren't wowed by Sony's games today and you don't appreciate effort
God forbid you expected a new generation of gaming to seem new.
...said the fucking nintendo fan
get outta here with that shit brospehus
Hey I've been enjoying share buttons and suspended games since November, granted, not as nice as that video stuff, and I've been playing on and off TV with lower latency than HDMI - which is probably faster than gakai remote play will be. The sharing stuff was the only new, next gen game changing stuff Sony showed.
Everything else is shit we've seen before but maybe with more AA, particles, post effects and nicer LOD. The reactions everywhere are mixed and that tells you all you need to know.
Delsin Rowe is the star of Second Son, and you probably know someone like him: A 24 year-old who is absolutely convinced he’s destined for greatness; though so far that greatness has managed to elude him. He grew up just outside Seattle, where his great – if accidental – calling comes crashing into his life. After rescuing occupants from a fiery bus wreck, he discovers that he suddenly has the ability to direct, manipulate and even transform into… Smoke. Could he have absorbed this power from one of the passengers he pulled from the wreckage?
Setting the scene: It’s been seven years since the Cole McGrath episodes and the world has clearly changed. Anyone showing signs of being a so-called “bio-terrorist” is immediately handed over to the Department of Unified Protection (DUP) — a government agency created to ensure there is never a repeat of the catastrophic events of Empire City and New Marais. So Delsin, who has never been particularly respectful of authority, finds himself caught in the DUP dragnet – And decides he’s not going to go quietly.
As you play Second Son, you’ll explore lots of Seattle’s familiar landmarks. As with all games in this series, the path the gameplay and story take will depend on the decisions you make along the way. Of course, we are creating all these characters and locations at a remarkable level of detail – made possible by PS4. In fact, this trailer was produced in-house using our game engine – can you tell we’re having fun with the new GPU, tools, and our new VFX system?
So what were the highlights?
drink some bleach
just imagine the mad fake gamer girls you will be able to shame with this sharingcan you imagine the simping that will happen with this system
:shaq: ay girl lemme help you with that game
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=514552&page=5
Apparently you're jaded if you weren't wowed by Sony's games today and you don't appreciate effort
God forbid you expected a new generation of gaming to seem new.
...said the fucking nintendo fan
get outta here with that shit brospehus
Hey I've been enjoying share buttons and suspended games since November, granted, not as nice as that video stuff, and I've been playing on and off TV with lower latency than HDMI - which is probably faster than gakai remote play will be. The sharing stuff was the only new, next gen game changing stuff Sony showed.
Everything else is shit we've seen before but maybe with more AA, particles, post effects and nicer LOD. The reactions everywhere are mixed and that tells you all you need to know.
The fact that you find all that extraneous bullshit "next gen" and want to shit on actual tech advances just proves where your priorities lie. Kindly drink some bleach or something and put yourself out of our misery.
SHARING WITH YOUR FRIENDS IS NEXT GEN
GRAPHICAL AND TECH ADVANCES? WHO CARES
The mind of a ninthing, ladies and gentlemen.
So what were the highlights?
Killzone is a pretty movie
lots of smart tech advances
sharing is caring!
look, here are some shitty indie non-games, because art
new infamous
watch dogs, which is going to be out on every console imaginable
watch this year old square tech demo
hay guyz, we money hatted blizzard and bungie
notably absent: actual console, any drm/anti-used games talk, price, kaz
conclusion: #banborys
Infamous 3: Second Son details:QuoteDelsin Rowe is the star of Second Son, and you probably know someone like him: A 24 year-old who is absolutely convinced he’s destined for greatness; though so far that greatness has managed to elude him. He grew up just outside Seattle, where his great – if accidental – calling comes crashing into his life. After rescuing occupants from a fiery bus wreck, he discovers that he suddenly has the ability to direct, manipulate and even transform into… Smoke. Could he have absorbed this power from one of the passengers he pulled from the wreckage?
Setting the scene: It’s been seven years since the Cole McGrath episodes and the world has clearly changed. Anyone showing signs of being a so-called “bio-terrorist” is immediately handed over to the Department of Unified Protection (DUP) — a government agency created to ensure there is never a repeat of the catastrophic events of Empire City and New Marais. So Delsin, who has never been particularly respectful of authority, finds himself caught in the DUP dragnet – And decides he’s not going to go quietly.
As you play Second Son, you’ll explore lots of Seattle’s familiar landmarks. As with all games in this series, the path the gameplay and story take will depend on the decisions you make along the way. Of course, we are creating all these characters and locations at a remarkable level of detail – made possible by PS4. In fact, this trailer was produced in-house using our game engine – can you tell we’re having fun with the new GPU, tools, and our new VFX system?
tl;dr: You have smoke powers. It's set in Seattle; not fake cities like the first two. Story is Xmen Days of Future's Past-like. Supposed to be 'real' footage.
No shit, but the assets themselves look pretty good, and with 8gb of RAM the image quality should be fine anyway.i mean cmon this is a launch title (http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/whew.png). I'm not gonna be able to handle next gen games looking this good
http://www.abload.de/img/7czr3n.jpg
That's some high quality bullshot
Even $3000 worth of Nvidia's greatest GPUs can't render that kinda image quality
I finally realized who Mark Cerney reminds me of: Shawn's mom from Shawn of the dead.
Fixed
i mean cmon this is a launch title (http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/whew.png). I'm not gonna be able to handle next gen games looking this good
http://www.abload.de/img/7czr3n.jpg
That is one big ass lens flare. It's next-gen alright.
Anyone know how Sony managed to get 8 GB GDDR5 memory in the PS4? Isn't that really expensive? I was thinking about regular DDR3 system for PCs all this time, but it's the more expensive GDDR5 memory. 8 GB of it. How the fuck is that possible?
Here's the thing: not a single one of the presenters at the PlayStation 4 event were women, and people noticed.Sony destroyed, better than 55k next NPD confirmed:
Elizabeth DeLoria @elizabethdanger
Literally going to buy a Wii U out of spite for Playstation next payday. I'm going to fight sexism by buying from competitors now.
Kate Falanga @MightySquid
No women at the two hour Sony Playstation 4 announcement. Sad state of gaming.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that it's because there's an endemic system of sexism within the industry that has nothing to do with Sony in particular; there's sadly few if any women in positions to BE presenters at these things.
For the person who said she's going out to buy a wii u... how many women presenters were there at the comparable Nintendo event?
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that it's because there's an endemic system of sexism within the industry that has nothing to do with Sony in particular; there's sadly few if any women in positions to BE presenters at these things.
For the person who said she's going out to buy a wii u... how many women presenters were there at the comparable Nintendo event?
None because gaming fanthings chased away Cammie whats her face.
there was no women because no women work as marketers for the companies involved ??? this isnt fucking sexism
that is a result of sexism, though
not sony's fault by any means, however.
buying a Wii U because of sexism is a two wrongs don't make a right situation of course but Sony should have the fucking wit to look at the presenters they have assembled to represent them globally and think 'Gee, what about the other half of the population? Maybe we should attempt to make a product with some appeal to them as well'
you know, quite apart from basic human concerns of equality and fairness and dignity etc
Everything else is shit we've seen before but maybe with more AA, particles, post effects and nicer LOD.
...said the fucking nintendo fan
get outta here with that shit brospehus
aesthetics remind me of a steering wheel. personally not a fan but you can already tell it's more comfortable than the old design.
And analog buttons are gone from the DS2/3, so you can't play Metal Gear Solid 2 or 3 with it. Well, you couldn't anyway.
so what did sony fuck up?
Yea, that Blow guy..."oh boy, all this testosterone in the room, hope you guys won't mind some actual games amirite!" I didn't even like most of what was shown beforehand, but that comment made me want to slap the pattern baldness off his head.
also, his game looked like an iOS app - no way that needs to be next-gen. And it will sell nothing and won't be an exclusiveI assume it means console exclusive because it was originally announced for Windows and iOS.
Everything else is shit we've seen before but maybe with more AA, particles, post effects and nicer LOD
I thought you'd be more familiar with the Ninfantile rhetoric by now, DC: Every and each one of them owns a high-end PC that can produce visual fidelity beyond the scope of anything Sony and MS can produce, rendering all their efforts irrelevant. Thank god for Nintendo's whimsical and unmatched output!
Killzone Shadow Fall will be 30 FPS at 1080p resolution according to an interview after the presentation. German gaming site 4players.de reports:
Summary:
- Developers can choose which resources they want to use
- GG chose to have 30FPS at 1080p
- They still like 3D, wont confirm if Killzone Shadow Fall will support it
Sony Worldwide Studios boss Shuhei Yoshida has told Eurogamer that PlayStation 4 will not block the use of second-hand games, contrary to various reports, speculation and even a Sony patent unearthed last month.
I sat down with Yoshida a few hours after the PS4 reveal tonight and one of the first things I asked was whether used games would be blocked.
"Do you want us to do that?" he asked.
No, I said. I think, if you buy something on a disc, that you have a kind of moral contract with the person you've bought it from that you retain some of that value and you can pass it on.
Do you agree, I asked?
"Yes. That's the general expectation by consumers," said Yoshida. "They purchase physical form, they want to use it everywhere, right? So that's my expectation."
So if someone buys a PlayStation 4 game, I asked, you're not going to stop them reselling it?
"Aaaah," was Yoshida's initial answer, but seemingly only because he'd forgotten his line. "So what was our official answer to our internal question?" he asked his Japanese PR advisor. The advisor stepped in but didn't seem to answer clearly, at least to my ears. Yoshida then took control again firmly:
"So, used games can play on PS4. How is that?"
I said I thought that was fine.
Interestingly, I also spoke to a Sony source elsewhere at the event this evening who told me that the anti used-game patent discovered last month was actually nothing to do with PlayStation 4 at all.
The patent suggested that discs would come branded with a contactless tag that could be recognised and read by your console, which would then bind it to you and prevent you from selling it on.
But whatever reason Sony did have for patenting it, it sounds like it wasn't for its next-generation console. Hopefully Microsoft will also avoid this ludicrous technology with its next-generation Xbox as well.
If Diablo 3 taught us anything, it's that not everyone loves the idea of games that demand an internet connection.
In fact, it was hard to find anyone who loved games that demand an internet connection, which was sort of the problem: if you can't outweigh the pain of potential inconvenience to whatever proportion of your audience, then you simply aren't going to win that battle. Click click click loot loot loot.
Good news, then, because Sony Computer Entertainment seems to have reached the same conclusion at a system level for PlayStation 4, and as the result the new console will do pretty much whatever you customise it to do when it comes to the internet.
Sony's super-slick PS4 conference talked about a lot of functionality that will clearly benefit from an internet connection more than ever before - a processing module that handles downloads in the console's suspend state, for one thing - but when I talked to Sony Worldwide Studios boss Shuhei Yoshida after the PS4 conference he was adamant it was all customisable.
Does the PlayStation 4 always need to be connected to the internet, I asked?
"You can play offline, but you may want to keep it connected," he suggested. "The system has the low-power mode - I don't know the official term - that the main system is shut down but the subsystem is awake. Downloading or updating or you can wake it up using either the tablet, smartphone or PS Vita."
Are all of those things optional, though? For people who have broadband data limits, for example? They can customise everything?
"Oh yes, yes, you can go offline totally. Social is big for us, but we understand there are some people who are anti-social! So if you don't want to connect to anyone else, you can do that."
Sony clearly isn't afraid of technical nuance. This is a company that announced its next-generation console by declaring it has an x86 architecture, advanced PC GPU, 8GB of GDDR5 memory and a massive hard disk. You may like some of its networking ideas. You may not like some of them. I got the impression speaking to Yoshida that Sony has other priorities.
Speaking from experience, it's always been good at allowing people to change what they want up to a logical point - far beyond any of its competitors - and I see no reason to suspect any change this generation.
Everything else is shit we've seen before but maybe with more AA, particles, post effects and nicer LOD. The reactions everywhere are mixed and that tells you all you need to know.
8 gigs GDDR5 is huge
Can't shill for Durango anymore, gonna stick with shilling Surface for 8 years shit isn't even funny anymore
I wonder how MS will respond to 8GB DDR5.
I wonder how MS will respond to 8GB DDR5.
Probably with games that look good. You massive faggot.
I wonder how MS will respond to 8GB DDR5.
Probably with games that look good. You massive faggot.
so what did sony fuck up?
People are really forgetting the Gaikai stuff and how they are implementing it into the system. Nearly all the download/instant try features are using that tech and I really doubt MS will have a similar alternative to it. Buy a digital game and start playing in very little time while the game downloads in the background? Awesome. Want to test a game out? Stream the game over the cloud without having to download it all. Awesome.
People are really forgetting the Gaikai stuff and how they are implementing it into the system. Nearly all the download/instant try features are using that tech and I really doubt MS will have a similar alternative to it. Buy a digital game and start playing in very little time while the game downloads in the background? Awesome. Want to test a game out? Stream the game over the cloud without having to download it all. Awesome.Apparently it "works" but picture quality is shit until the game starts running on PS4.
Spin it, maxy.
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Spin it while you still can.
People are really forgetting the Gaikai stuff and how they are implementing it into the system. Nearly all the download/instant try features are using that tech and I really doubt MS will have a similar alternative to it. Buy a digital game and start playing in very little time while the game downloads in the background? Awesome. Want to test a game out? Stream the game over the cloud without having to download it all. Awesome.
I mean streaming games is inherently going to look inferior to a local game but the point of the service is to try the game out instantly. The benefit outweighs the draw back. At least for me. I would LOVE that to become a STEAM feature.Honestly,I think that is the best thing Sony has shown.
I've tested the Gaikai service on Green Man Gaming and it works pretty well.
People are really forgetting the Gaikai stuff and how they are implementing it into the system. Nearly all the download/instant try features are using that tech and I really doubt MS will have a similar alternative to it. Buy a digital game and start playing in very little time while the game downloads in the background? Awesome. Want to test a game out? Stream the game over the cloud without having to download it all. Awesome.
MS will make their own stream tech or someone will do a deal with OnLive, you can book it, it's gonna happen. And you'll note, Sony didn't say any of that stuff was free.
That Killzone GIF is basically a foreground that looks like a next gen Mass Effect or Halo Reach, with a nice waterfall, and some cleverly designed cityscape that is rendering no-doubt low LOD buildings in the distance. The large building focal point has a fucking glass shield-thing around it purely because some distinguished mentally-challenged fellows are delighted by reflection mapping / refraction shaders. As soon as the ships land and it goes FPS, it looks like the same shit killzone games we played this generation.
Microsoft will leave this reveal as nothing but a whimpering memory. Hopefully.
Spin it, maxy.
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Spin it while you still can.
Spin it, maxy.
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Spin it while you still can.
Zero interest in Killzone with Destiny on the same system. Bad idea for Bungie to talk about their FPS at the same conference with Killshit.
They're very different games. Isn't Destiny going to be an MMO? Killzone compares very favorable to their launch FPS for the PS3.
Kind of dumb to launch Killzone Vita and Killzone PS4 a few months a part. No one is going to care about the Vita version now (not that anyone was hyped for the vita version anyway...)Yeah, it's a bit late for that. They should have tried to get the Vita version out earlier.
PSN purchases will not carry over to PS4:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/21/sony-psn-games-wont-transfer-to-ps4/
by the way, this means people who bought digital content from Nintendo ended up better off than those who bought from Sony, haha
by the way, this means people who bought digital content from Nintendo ended up better off than those who bought from Sony, hahaOnly to some extent. It's still locked to a single system. PSN content can be played on 2+2 systems. Neither solution is particularly good.
I do hope that any PS3 stuff that finds its way onto PS4 (like Pinball Arcade) won't ask you to pay again, at the very least.I think they'll find a way to transfer tables. For instance the original tables from Zen Pinball were transferred for free when they released Zen Pinball 2. It shouldn't be that difficult to fix.
http://www.4players.de/4players.php/spielinfonews/PlayStation4/34422/2129017/Killzone_Shadow_Fall|Infos_zur_Bildrate_und_3D-Unterstuetzung.htmlQuoteKillzone Shadow Fall will be 30 FPS at 1080p resolution according to an interview after the presentation. German gaming site 4players.de reports:
Summary:
- Developers can choose which resources they want to use
- GG chose to have 30FPS at 1080p
- They still like 3D, wont confirm if Killzone Shadow Fall will support it
RIP 60fps console games :gloomy
QuoteIt's the morning after the night before, and we're here at Sony's follow-up meeting to answer questions concerning the PlayStation 4. Shuhei Yoshida, President of Sony's Worldwide Studios for Sony Computer Entertainment Inc has just confirmed that, like for PS3 games, PSN titles won't be transferrable to the PlayStation 4.
Developing...
http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/21/sony-psn-games-wont-transfer-to-ps4/
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HD COLLECTIONS FOR EVERYONE! AGAIN!
It's worrisome that they're starting with "NO BC" instead of "we're coming up with a solution so you can play your hundreds of dollars in content on PS4"
"No native BC, but we're working on a solution"It's never going to happen...
done
"No native BC, but we're working on a solution"It's never going to happen...
done
i'm surprised we havent heard anything about blu ray support or what the games come on.??
whose to say they wont use the vita type carts with flash memory ???They wouldn't include a Blu-ray drive without using it for games. Come on.
whose to say they wont use the vita type carts with flash memory ???
Seems like something they should be able to do through Gaikai, too. Oh well.
"No native BC, but we're working on a solution"It's never going to happen...
done
I think you’re doing the consumers and the gamers a huge disservice, when you come out with a new console only to say, it only plays PlayStation 3 games
Can I steal that, maxy-kun?Steal,somebody posted it on gaf anyway.
I'm excited about the RAM bump just as much as the next guy (assuming he's not a ninthing) but the way all the kids are running around and bringing it at every turn is pretty laughable. It's like when everyone used to answer with
"CELL" to every question.
whose to say they wont use the vita type carts with flash memory ???
Can't wait to see Xfags assume the position of Nfags, arguing power/graphics don't mean anything. I can see it now. Maybe they'll buy WiiUs too to complete the gender transition.Yeah, this is probably the most disappointing thing about the upcoming console warz. The usually quiet xbox fanboys (quiet because their team was "winning") are about to go off the deep end. :-\
If MS really would have to change the mobo for faster ram then oops.
Then again maybe a stronger GPU/CPU could alleviate some of this?
Sony really impressed me with the simple PC design of things.
Another reporter asked again: Used games will work on PS4, correct?
“We have to really name our system and services for that, to be able to explain more about it,” Yoshida told the room.
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http://www.penny-arcade.com/report/editorial-article/think-the-ps4-wil-be-best-friends-with-used-games-not-so-fastQuoteAnother reporter asked again: Used games will work on PS4, correct?
“We have to really name our system and services for that, to be able to explain more about it,” Yoshida told the room.
Translation: Want to play a used game you bought at Gamestop? Sign up for PS Plus or buy a "used game pass".
It's truly amazing that Sony is actually gonna deliver a product that people wished for.
I have a pretty good idea what will happen regarding used games,won't share it though...If i'm right I will just pat myself on the back :D
Will just say this,
Consumer gets fucked in the long run.
NDA :DI have a pretty good idea what will happen regarding used games,won't share it though...If i'm right I will just pat myself on the back :D
Will just say this,
Consumer gets fucked in the long run.
why would you not share your idea?
I have a pretty good idea what will happen regarding used games,won't share it though...If i'm right I will just pat myself on the back :D
Will just say this,
Consumer gets fucked in the long run.
I have a pretty good idea what will happen regarding used games,won't share it though...If i'm right I will just pat myself on the back :D
Will just say this,
Consumer gets fucked in the long run.
Specs aside, watch Durango's reveals involving more entertainment and social features (that I might actually care about), reveal of nextgen COD and AssCreed, and announcement of GTA5 next-gen exclusivity... Gamers and journos jizz everywhere.
But will it match PS4 hardware. Probably most relevant question since this will determine who has better 3rd party games.
Assassin's Creed had a bad ass assassin with hidden blades killing people.
Watch Dog has a guy with a trench coat and a cellphone.
You know who enjoys 3rd party relations? Those that sell more games on their hardware. Every gen that's up for grabs.
MS cant get a foothold in Japan never, it won't gain anything in Europe either if it focusses on media.
You know who enjoys 3rd party relations? Those that sell more games on their hardware. Every gen that's up for grabs.
MS cant get a foothold in Japan never, it won't gain anything in Europe either if it focusses on media.
What's with the interstitial text being all modern looking? The thing at the end with Blanka and the helicopter sound?
We are talking about the 720, not the 360.
We are talking about the 720, not the 360.
They tried hard with the 360. I felt like we were constantly seeing "look how hard we're trying with Japan" shit all up to the launch.
Sony head of Worldwide Studios Shuhei Yoshida is a gregarious, smart, talkative interviewee. And that's exactly why it was so weird that he fully waffled when we asked him to address whether or not the newly unveiled PlayStation 4 will play used games. "That's my expectation, that PS4 games will work on [the] hardware. That's my expectation," he told us in an interview this morning. When we pushed to clarify what he meant, Yoshida stuttered. "Ummm ... yeah. We have to really name our system services to explain more about it," he added.
We are talking about the 720, not the 360.
They tried hard with the 360. I felt like we were constantly seeing "look how hard we're trying with Japan" shit all up to the launch.
Yes, and they went about it the wrong way too.
We are talking about the 720, not the 360.
They tried hard with the 360. I felt like we were constantly seeing "look how hard we're trying with Japan" shit all up to the launch.
Yes, and they went about it the wrong way too.
*10 minutes of crickets*
OK SO WHATS THE RIGHT WAY HIMUMU
they have to go back in time and be a Japanese company. Or accidentally hit on some dumb gimmick that Japan goes fucksticks over.
This is how they targeted Japan with the 360:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuw5bHKFc7Y
:-\
anyone know if gaikai can stream at 1080p?
if Sony is selling the dream of playing games instantly, that means initially streaming, then switching to local play, right? I know Onlive is 720p 30fps with bad compression and lag. Wii U has bad compressing artifacts on the gamepad and that's locally streamed. I sort of understand the appeal of instantly playing, but I'd rather just wait than play a gimped version of the game.
and here is Killzone 4 gameplay that's supposedly played differently than last night; proves it's not all smoke and mirrors or something. It's too boring to sit through twice to confirm it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUjQ4DJXLzw
Himu how can MS sell in Japan if they even struggle in Europe?
We are talking about the 720, not the 360.
They tried hard with the 360. I felt like we were constantly seeing "look how hard we're trying with Japan" shit all up to the launch.
Yes, and they went about it the wrong way too.
*10 minutes of crickets*
OK SO WHATS THE RIGHT WAY HIMUMU
they have to go back in time and be a Japanese company. Or accidentally hit on some dumb gimmick that Japan goes fucksticks over.
look at the ad yourself.
This is how they targeted Japan with the 360:
:-\
360 started with JRPGS from the Final Fantasy man. PS3 had nothing.
Yet still 360 didn't do shit.
Maybe someone like Oscar has more insight, but from this perspective, it seems like there wasn't much objective reason for the 360 to fail there
Are people expecting the PS4 to blow past current Wii U numbers?
Maybe someone like Oscar has more insight, but from this perspective, it seems like there wasn't much objective reason for the 360 to fail there
this is a good read
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-12-13-why-xbox-failed-in-japan
Are people expecting the PS4 to blow past current Wii U numbers?It depends on the price, but I expect it to do have better third-party support and a stronger first-party line-up although the latter is entirely subjective.
Lick our star spangled taint, bitches.
Are people expecting the PS4 to blow past current Wii U numbers?
they did mention 360 in that article
What's really gotta hurt for lager and all the other twee yuropeen fegburts is that MS proved this gen it doesn't have to win Europe or Japan. It just has to come in first in the US in the non-gimmick division. Lick our star spangled taint, bitches.
What's really gotta hurt for lager and all the other twee yuropeen fegburts is that MS proved this gen it doesn't have to win Europe or Japan. It just has to come in first in the US in the non-gimmick division. Lick our star spangled taint, bitches.
How did it prove that?
Lick our star spangled taint, bitches.
What's really gotta hurt for lager and all the other twee yuropeen fegburts is that MS proved this gen it doesn't have to win Europe or Japan. It just has to come in first in the US in the non-gimmick division. Lick our star spangled taint, bitches.
How did it prove that? Still came in last.
I thought the largest market is the world, its last there ???
I thought the largest market is the world, its last there ???
I thought the largest market is the world, its last there ???
This generation doesn't have a solid winner in terms of global market in which every country is playing the top system and you know it. You're using ps2 gen rules in a generation where Nintendo is top in Japan, Sony is top in Europe, and MS is top in North America.
In short: DualShock 3 won’t work with PlayStation 4, but PlayStation Move will. “No, [PS4] doesn’t support DualShock 3,” noted Yoshida, “but it does support PS Move
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/21/playstation-4-supports-move-but-not-dualshock-3QuoteIn short: DualShock 3 won’t work with PlayStation 4, but PlayStation Move will. “No, [PS4] doesn’t support DualShock 3,” noted Yoshida, “but it does support PS Move
Despite showing a variety of games running on the newly announced PlayStation 4, Sony PlayStation's US head Jack Tretton says the console's "still in development in terms of final specs and design." He told All Things D as much in an interview this morning; the PlayStation 4's specs were detailed in a press release by Sony last evening, which detail the internals as an 8-core 64-bit x86 "Jaguar" CPU built by AMD, a Radeon GPU comprised of 18 "compute units" which push out 1.84 TFLOPS, and 8GB of GDDR5 RAM.
Tretton also said he "hopes" that the PlayStation 4 won't cost $599 at launch (the PlayStation 3 launched in two models, at $499 and $599). "When I think about the console, you open it up, you look at it, you certainly look at it when you insert a disc, but for most people, it's behind a cabinet or on a shelf somewhere and you spend all your time looking at the screen," Tretton said.
Motor storm Pacific Rift :bow
Better than wipeout HD :bow
I agree but they will still look and run better then durango then. 1st party will be the big dif.
But if that the difference in 3rd party quality will be bigger then that between the 360 and ps3 then it will be a problem for ms.
For me that counts.
I agree but they will still look and run better then durango then. I dont expect any dev to go out of their way though. 1st party will be the big dif, and it kind of was this gen already with sony exclusives looking better then 360 ones.
But if that the difference in 3rd party quality will be bigger then that between the 360 and ps3 then it will be a problem for ms.
For me that counts.
I agree but they will still look and run better then durango then. I dont expect any dev to go out of their way though. 1st party will be the big dif, and it kind of was this gen already with sony exclusives looking better then 360 ones.
But if that the difference in 3rd party quality will be bigger then that between the 360 and ps3 then it will be a problem for ms.
For me that counts.
Yea and this gen it took 7 years for Sony to barely scrape to a tie in hardware sales and they are still distantly behind in software sales.
The more powerful PS4 is relative to 720, the more expensive it will be relative to 720, especially when you consider that MS already has a subsidized contract pricing model in place on the 360. The less Sony sells than MS in the early going, the less difference there will be in third party graphics.
Unless 720 is a Wii U+ I can't see this being a big deal outside of the message board types like us.
On a serious note I did not enjoy HD as much as past Wipeout's and I have no clue why. Maybe because I played the shit out of both PSP Wipeout's before I played HD. I enjoyed Hydro Thunder 360 more than Wipeout HD. It is a fantastic game though! And I have no legit problems with it. Just wasn't feeling it.
Motor storm Pacific Rift :bow
Better than wipeout HD :bow
If the 720 is weaker then it will mean that 3rd party PS3 games won't look as good as 1st party PS3 games unless Sony chips in on development. Even if PS3 comes out stronger than 720, which may not be so, unless it's outselling it 4:1 there is no reason for developers to target PS3 spec and leave the 720 in the cold. Especially when developers were making bank on 360 and not on PS3 for the most part.
And I say this as someone who really enjoyed yesterday's conference.
:lol
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If MS really would have to change the mobo for faster ram then oops.
Then again maybe a stronger GPU/CPU could alleviate some of this?
Sony really impressed me with the simple PC design of things.
I'm excited about the RAM bump just as much as the next guy (assuming he's not a ninthing) but the way all the kids are running around and bringing it up at every turn is pretty laughable. It's like when everyone used to answer with
"CELL" to every question. It's officially a meme.
The first Motorstorm is balls and I never touched Apocalypse but imo Pacific Rift is right up there with PGR4 as one of the best racing games of this generation.
I haven't liked a Wipeout game since.....god, I don't think I've ever liked a Wipeout game.
QuoteEverything else is shit we've seen before but maybe with more AA, particles, post effects and nicer LOD
"We've" seen before? Define "We've" , Dirty NBandit
you've never seen killzone, infamous, wii music, gran turismo clones, jonathan blow fellating himself, dragon's dogma, and a pile of pure square enix bullshit before?
a wiiU fan/defender shouldn't be the one to say it, but he's not wrong. the games lineup they showed was pure limp-dick buzzkill.
What's really gotta hurt for lager and all the other twee yuropeen fegburts is that MS proved this gen it doesn't have to win Europe or Japan. It just has to come in first in the US in the non-gimmick division. Lick our star spangled taint, bitches.
what kind of budget are you thinking for Crackdown 3 :lol
Crackdown was not that great unless you were doing co-op.speak for yourself hombre. Single player is fantastic
Surprisingly good assessment on ps4 reveal from Totilo
http://kotaku.com/5986059/the-ps4-one-day-later
I'm subscribing to your video channel if you do get one, HSMP. I still occasionally watch those SR2 videos you made.
not really sure why these nthings can't just say / be allowed to say 'I like Mario, fuck off Killzone bros' and be done with it rlyThey have to go on forums and argue why their gaming choice is superior and why Killzone should die in a fire, duh :-\
Surprisingly good assessment on ps4 reveal from Totilo
http://kotaku.com/5986059/the-ps4-one-day-later
The stards on gaf defending no psn BC make me want to cuss them out but I'm treading lightly because it is my alt.
Jvm in particular pisses me off.
Fucking hate modern day sfags.
Q: You showed us how you could use the Vita as a second screen in your living room. Is that local only, or is there any ambition with Gaikai to use that as a server and get further away in the living room?
A: Technically speaking, it works from anywhere, as far as you have a wi-fi connection from your Vita to the PlayStation 4. It needs to be wi-fi. However, for some games, when you play or connect from far away, it accumulates latency. Some games may not be playable, like fighting games or shooting games. But some other slower paced games will be playable. As long as you have home routers anywhere in your home, you can play every PlayStation 4 game. We ask developers when they finish the PlayStation 4 product and submit a master to make sure that they have the appropriate controller mapping to work on PS Vita. All games will work – unless it is a dance game [laughs]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGlu3e9kdks
You get radio messages through the controller speakers. We're Wii gaming circa 2006 here, folks!
I don't think it was a substantial gap outside of those few exclusives and Max Payne or something.
https://twitter.com/ReijiAsakura/sta...99622717267968
ソニー・コンピュータ・エンターテンイメントのアンドリュー・ハウス氏、インタビュー終わり。まずプレイステーション4ではSACD、CDはサポー トしません。
Andrew House said PS4 does not support CD and SACD in interview.
Wasn't Splinter Cell a timed exclusive?I guess the concept with lights and shadows was designed around the xbox's strengths but the next still looked miles better than the ps2 versions.
if so, that explains the big difference
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/187080/Which_indies_are_working_on_PS4_games_and_why.php#.USdDElomnVQ
Fun bit of fact-checking on that list of devs supposedly supporting PS4
But with so many studios listed, the real question is: how many are actually working on PS4 games, and which have simply expressed an interest, yet been added to bump the numbers up and make the reveal seem that little bit more impressive?
Many indie studios that we got in contact with told us that they weren't able to talk about their current PS4 development status, although we were able to squeeze details out of them here and there.
Who's in, who's out?
We didn't get off to a great start in our hunt for PS4 indies, as Mojang's Daniel Kaplan told us that he wasn't even aware that the Minecraft and Scrolls studio had been included in the release.
"That is more than I knew!" he laughed. "I mean we are talking with different people with Scrolls, but we havent decided anything yet."
Could it perhaps be the case that Sony has simply included a list of indies who are working on Sony platforms? "Maybe everyone will just be bumped up to PS4... I don't have a clue to be honest," he answered.
Skulls of the Shogun studio 17-Bit, on the other hand, does not have a PS4 dev kit as of yet, although that's not for lack of trying.
"I'm surprised we were on any sort of list!" says the studio's Jake Kazdai. "We've actually been licensed Nintendo and Sony developers for years, and are working on a new project but we haven't decided anything yet about where it will land, or if it will even hit a console. I am anxious to see a PS4 dev kit and have been chatting with them about that but nothing official at all yet."
I don't think it was a substantial gap outside of those few exclusives and Max Payne or something.
Difference between games like Splinter Cell on xbox and ps2 was huge.
Playing on xbox was a kaw dropping experience, even looking at ps2 screens made me chuckle.
If that no CD thing is real...no PS1(disc) BC,no PS2(CD disc) BC ever
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If that no CD thing is real...no PS1(disc) BC,no PS2(CD disc) BC ever
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PS1 games were on CD, PS2 games were on DVD.
The PS4 won't play music CDs because the major labels (of which Sony is one) are planning to phase out audio CDs within the next year or so.
http://www.smarthouse.com.au/Real_Sound/Industry/N6R5K9D5
Skulls of the Shogun studio 17-Bit, on the other hand, does not have a PS4 dev kit as of yet, although that's not for lack of trying.
"I'm surprised we were on any sort of list!" says the studio's Jake Kazdai. "We've actually been licensed Nintendo and Sony developers for years, and are working on a new project but we haven't decided anything yet about where it will land, or if it will even hit a console. I am anxious to see a PS4 dev kit and have been chatting with them about that but nothing official at all yet."
some ps2 games were on CD, especially in the early running, Manabyte. C'mon, if you're gonna comic book guy, at least get the easy stuff right.:bow Gradius V :bow2
some ps2 games were on CD, especially in the early running, Manabyte. C'mon, if you're gonna comic book guy, at least get the easy stuff right.
Speaking of Drive Club, did I mishear the developer or did he actually say the first person, dashboard view is the default and only view due to the game's emphasis on "realistic experience"? Because that would a total deal-breaker. Otherwise I might give it some attention.
I appreciate cockpits too, but only when it's optional. But with Drive Club, since they gave too much attention to aspects such as "getting into the car" for the benefit of build-up and overall experience, I fear players will be locked into it. In the video they showed the view was so limited I could barely judge the visuals outside the car.
You drive while sitting outside the car, motherfucker?
#banborys
What an ugly ass motherfucker.
Sony should have at least shown a mock up of the console :rofl
(http://i.imgur.com/gjtZQibl.jpg)
Nice foot.
I appreciate cockpits too, but only when it's optional. But with Drive Club, since they gave too much attention to aspects such as "getting into the car" for the benefit of build-up and overall experience, I fear players will be locked into it. In the video they showed the view was so limited I could barely judge the visuals outside the car.
"Fundamentally the core, innovative part of Watch Dogs is the same on every platform. But on PS4 we're able to push every lever a lot further."
http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/qcv4np/playstation-4-playstation-meeting-takeaways
:D
--- ハードウェア仕様やOS分部などに関しても、WWSが関与した成果はありますか?
吉田：8GBというかなり大きなメモリ搭載は、我々のリクエストでした。テクスチャバッファを使いたいという欲求ももちろんありますが、一番大きな理由はシステ ムの常駐領域を多く持たせたかったからです。
これからのゲーム機は、単にゲーム機として高性能なだけでなく、システムが基本部分で提供するサービスが優れていなければ競争力を持ちません。ですから、あらか じめシステム側で使うハードウェアリソースを大きめに予約できる余裕を作ったのです。
http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/qcv4np/playstation-4-playstation-meeting-takeaways
:D
Watching the Jimmy Fallon live demo I realised that the guy on the left kept pressing the R1 button to shoot and at one point Jimmy even says "tap R1, tap R1!"
This video has brought my hype to a screeching halt. I can't stand shooting with shoulder buttons, it's one of the things I hated most about the PS3 and made MAG unejoyable for me. After the first pictures of the DS4 were released I was hyped as shit, because the triggers looked really good and I thought Sony has had a change of mind and we can finally shoot with triggers. Why else would they give us such beautiful triggers? Jimmy even says in the beginning of the video that the triggers are good for first person shooters aaarrrgh!
It's not a minor thing for me, I play a lot of shooters and I want to be able to shoot with the given triggers. Why make it so painfully complicated?
So while at first I was like oh shit, Sony has done everything right (focus on games, 8 GB DDR5 etc.), this is the console to jump on, I am now reconsidering even ordering a PS4 GIVEN nothing changes. I mean who knows, they might allow us to map the controllers according to our gameplay style. But I doubt it.
So, while my hype has died for the time being, how is yours doing? Encountered any deal breakers so far?
http://av.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/series/avt/20130222_589023.htmlQuote--- ハードウェア仕様やOS分部などに関しても、WWSが関与した成果はありますか?
吉田：8GBというかなり大きなメモリ搭載は、我々のリクエストでした。テクスチャバッファを使いたいという欲求ももちろんありますが、一番大きな理由はシステ ムの常駐領域を多く持たせたかったからです。
これからのゲーム機は、単にゲーム機として高性能なだけでなく、システムが基本部分で提供するサービスが優れていなければ競争力を持ちません。ですから、あらか じめシステム側で使うハードウェアリソースを大きめに予約できる余裕を作ったのです。
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QuoteWatching the Jimmy Fallon live demo I realised that the guy on the left kept pressing the R1 button to shoot and at one point Jimmy even says "tap R1, tap R1!"
This video has brought my hype to a screeching halt. I can't stand shooting with shoulder buttons, it's one of the things I hated most about the PS3 and made MAG unejoyable for me. After the first pictures of the DS4 were released I was hyped as shit, because the triggers looked really good and I thought Sony has had a change of mind and we can finally shoot with triggers. Why else would they give us such beautiful triggers? Jimmy even says in the beginning of the video that the triggers are good for first person shooters aaarrrgh!
It's not a minor thing for me, I play a lot of shooters and I want to be able to shoot with the given triggers. Why make it so painfully complicated?
So while at first I was like oh shit, Sony has done everything right (focus on games, 8 GB DDR5 etc.), this is the console to jump on, I am now reconsidering even ordering a PS4 GIVEN nothing changes. I mean who knows, they might allow us to map the controllers according to our gameplay style. But I doubt it.
So, while my hype has died for the time being, how is yours doing? Encountered any deal breakers so far?
:derp
now that I've heard the term "coded to the metal" I'm going to demand that all my games are coded to the metal. If it's not coded to the metal, I don't want it cause it's bullshit, coded to some other, lesser material.
WOOD SOMEBODY JUS EXPLANE WAT GDDR5 IS
U GUYS ARE SUCH DIX
WOOD SOMEBODY JUS EXPLANE WAT GDDR5 IS
U GUYS ARE SUCH DIX
http://images.eurogamer.net/2013/articles//a/1/5/5/8/5/1/6/Killzone_001.pnghttp://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=48162536#post48162536
sgaffots have lost their collective minds over the 8gb gddr5 announcement......they are insufferable.
All the better reason for me to stay here where it's safe and wait things out while playing Atlus gamesGungnir, right? That's the best Atlus published game I've played recently.. next to Devil Survivor 2 and DS Overclocked.
man, Silent Hill is getting weird.
sgaffots have lost their collective minds over the 8gb gddr5 announcement......they are insufferable.
its gonna get worse either way when Durango reveals their shit :lol :lol :lol
All the better reason for me to stay here where it's safe and wait things out while playing Atlus gamesGungnir, right? That's the best Atlus published game I've played recently.. next to Devil Survivor 2 and DS Overclocked.
I'm switching between Metal Gear Rising and some Super Robot Wars.
I think the Uncharted series would be the closest game to defining the platform but yeah there's nothing like Metal Gear Solid 2, Final Fantasy X or even how Gran Turismo 3 was for the PS2.
for me Infamous is the PS3 game of the generation.
for me Infamous is the PS3 game of the generation.
not really my question. What is the PS3 game of the generation for EVERYBODY, regardless of quality?
Defining game pre-launch is a different thing from looking back. PS3 pre-launch was a lot of MGS4, GT5, Assassin's Creed, LittleBigPlanet, and HOME.
Looking back, by sales, it was inferior CoD ports, GT5, and God of War 3.
I'm sure what they mean about PS4 is that there's no game there that is exciting the core, which is important pre-launch. It's all unproven/mildly interesting or a sequel to a mid-tier PS3 franchise.
Haha, that's probably the dumbest thing you've ever posted.
Lucky for Sony, they put Blu-ray in the PS3
That was a huge factor for every PS3 owner I knew
Without Blu-ray, the 360 probably would have slaughtered the PS3 so bad that there would't have been a PS4
Lucky for Sony, they put Blu-ray in the PS3
That was a huge factor for every PS3 owner I knew
Without Blu-ray, the 360 probably would have slaughtered the PS3 so bad that there would't have been a PS4
only reason i bought it, grudgingly
don't even really watch a lot of Blu-Rays...huge pain in the ass vs just watching a high-res rip even for stuff i own
Haha, that's probably the dumbest thing you've ever posted.
the other day he asked if red wine was the same as alcohol
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Non-parents don't know the pain of the Disney blu-ray unskippable previews
Non-parents don't know the pain of the Disney blu-ray unskippable previews
Our deal with Sony is a limited-time exclusivity that applies only to competing console platforms. Basically it is that you will see the game on the PlayStation 4 before you will see it on the Wii U or the next Microsoft console, if the game ever appears on either of those (whether it appears on those consoles eventually is purely up to whatever future arrangements might happen between us and Nintendo/Microsoft/Random Publishers/Whoever).http://kotaku.com/5986093/how-the-witness-became-a-ps4-game-and-why-pcios-owners-can-remain-happy
"The Wii U still has pretty low system specs, so it came down to a choice between the next Microsoft console or the next Sony console. There were people at Sony who really liked the game and were keeping in touch with us about it, and so we naturally started going to their PS4 developer events, got a dev kit, and started playing with it. I don't have good communication with anyone at Microsoft right now, and haven't been disclosed on their next console, but all our technical people like the PS4 specs a lot more than the leaked Durango specs, and we like the positioning of the PS4 (it's about games) a lot more than what we perceive Microsoft's positioning is going to be."8GB GDDR5 wins again.
"So we just found ourselves doing a PS4 port. And once we are doing that, it is not practical for us also to think about another console port. We were going to be a de facto console exclusive for Sony no matter what. As I mentioned, there are people at Sony who are very interested in The Witness, so they somehow percolated up through the ranks the idea of showing the game in the launch show. "
"Of course, Sony wants that show to point out things that are going to be exclusive or special to their console. So to be in the show we signed a timed exclusivity for competing consoles. But this was just a formalization of something that was already de facto. We like the PS4 and we like the people at Sony we are working with, so it was an easy choice to make the agreement."
So this is like a reverse Braid?What would that be, an actual good game that deserves the praise it gets?
Quote"The Wii U still has pretty low system specs, so it came down to a choice between the next Microsoft console or the next Sony console. There were people at Sony who really liked the game and were keeping in touch with us about it, and so we naturally started going to their PS4 developer events, got a dev kit, and started playing with it. I don't have good communication with anyone at Microsoft right now, and haven't been disclosed on their next console, but all our technical people like the PS4 specs a lot more than the leaked Durango specs, and we like the positioning of the PS4 (it's about games) a lot more than what we perceive Microsoft's positioning is going to be."
"So we just found ourselves doing a PS4 port. And once we are doing that, it is not practical for us also to think about another console port. We were going to be a de facto console exclusive for Sony no matter what. As I mentioned, there are people at Sony who are very interested in The Witness, so they somehow percolated up through the ranks the idea of showing the game in the launch show. "
"Of course, Sony wants that show to point out things that are going to be exclusive or special to their console. So to be in the show we signed a timed exclusivity for competing consoles. But this was just a formalization of something that was already de facto. We like the PS4 and we like the people at Sony we are working with, so it was an easy choice to make the agreement."
for me Infamous is the PS3 game of the generation.
not really my question. What is the PS3 game of the generation for EVERYBODY, regardless of quality?
man, Silent Hill is getting weird.
don't know the context of what you said is about but have you played Silent Hill Book of Memories for PSV? That game is so not Silent Hill.
Eurogamer makes the point that there is as yet no 'defining' game for the PS4 but I'm not sure the PS3 had one either. MGS4? Uncharted 2? Did either of those set the world on fire like GTA III or Halo? I don't think so. What game do you think of when you think 'PS3'?
Metal Gear Solid 4 is the definite PS3 game.
The big issue for RAMbros is if MS just go 16Gb (unlikely) and then they'd have to crawl back to "our exclusives/Home/Move... Tears"
COD is the defining game of the 360, arguably. I realize it has been successful on PS3 but I really doubt the majority of people would say 'PS3' when you say 'COD'.
So yeah, it looks like PS3's signature game is Uncharted 2. Which I loved, to reiterate. But that's still pretty weaksauce in terms of the end result of this massive investment of time and money. And it has already been diluted as a franchise by Uncharted 3, at least in my mind.
Eurogamer makes the point that there is as yet no 'defining' game for the PS4 but I'm not sure the PS3 had one either. MGS4? Uncharted 2? Did either of those set the world on fire like GTA III or Halo? I don't think so. What game do you think of when you think 'PS3'?
The update game is the defining experience of my PS3 experience
They pretty much fixed that shit best they could with PS Plus, but the fact that you have to -pay- for it... *snort*
The update game is the defining experience of my PS3 experience
They pretty much fixed that shit best they could with PS Plus, but the fact that you have to -pay- for it... *snort*
Two of the major rumours going round prior to the announcement of next-gen consoles – obviously we’re still waiting to see what Microsoft does – is that always online connections are required and second-hand games would be blocked. Now the PS4 announcement shows neither of those to be true, were either of those avenues ever explored?
Well first of all, we haven’t stated that second-hand games… we haven’t made a statement on the second-hand games question. There was a lot of reaction to a patent that was filed, which is a matter of course for a technology business like us, to file various patents at various times, many of which many never see any application but they are good to have depending on ideas that might be building.
So what we’re here to do is offer the best value and the best gaming experience for gamers. The answer to the pre-owned question isn’t clarified just yet and we’re working through that and we’ll announce our position in more detail as and when we can.
man, Silent Hill is getting weird.
don't know the context of what you said is about but have you played Silent Hill Book of Memories for PSV? That game is so not Silent Hill.
Context: Killzone seems to have a fair amount of fog to fill in the space
and nah, i'm not too into SH. But after looking at screens I gotta ask what the hell is that game-- a top down shooter?
If a mod wants to make this into a smiley (PLZPLZPLZ)
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If a mod wants to make this into a smiley (PLZPLZPLZ)
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If a mod wants to make this into a smiley (PLZPLZPLZ)
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Random question,All of them, of course. :lol
Is any announced PS4 game running at 60fps?
Can someone post DDR5-tan in the right thread on GAF please?
Don Flamenco has killed my alt account somehow :'(
Can someone post DDR5-tan in the right thread on GAF please?
Don Flamenco has killed my alt account somehow :'(
I can, but I think Prole would do a far superior job. PROLE WHERE U AT
I have no idea why you guys have such a lackluster judgement in what would be a good emoticon and what not :/
there are already too many smilies that get added and only get used for a week at most but whatever, do whatever you want :P
I have no idea why you guys have such a lackluster judgement in what would be a good emoticon and what not :/
I have no idea why you guys have such a lackluster judgement in what would be a good emoticon and what not :/
the weird emoticons are great. you open up the emoticon box and have to wonder why the hell we have a Number Munchers emote :munch
or any of the cryptic ones
:tbslol :hehe :kylielaff :santocry :gerstmann :avatar :uguu :usavich :geoff
bad emoticons
What is that green frog thing anyway
We should totally do culling of emoticons by popular vote
If a mod wants to make this into a smiley (PLZPLZPLZ)
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Eurogamer makes the point that there is as yet no 'defining' game for the PS4 but I'm not sure the PS3 had one either. MGS4? Uncharted 2? Did either of those set the world on fire like GTA III or Halo? I don't think so. What game do you think of when you think 'PS3'?
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I spent more time playing the update game than anything else on PS3
Eurogamer makes the point that there is as yet no 'defining' game for the PS4 but I'm not sure the PS3 had one either. MGS4? Uncharted 2? Did either of those set the world on fire like GTA III or Halo? I don't think so. What game do you think of when you think 'PS3'?
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I spent more time playing the update game than anything else on PS3
nailed it, /thread, ban Himu
:tbslol :hehe :kylielaff :santocry :gerstmann :avatar :uguu :usavich :geoffJP bandana guy, uguu, and geoff are all awesome, you stfu man :maf
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GDDR5-TAAAAAAAAN :uguu
GDDR5-TAAAAAAAAN :uguu
Bork pls (http://i.minus.com/ibm7B73hgMV588.gif)
Bork pls (http://i.minus.com/ibm7B73hgMV588.gif)
GDDR5-TAAAAAAAAN :uguu
Bork pls (http://i.minus.com/ibm7B73hgMV588.gif)
GDDR5-TAAAAAAAAN :uguu
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GDDR5-TAAAAAAAAN :uguu
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GDDR5-TAAAAAAAAN :uguu
Bork pls (http://i.minus.com/ibxU6p2JSsMBR7.gif)
Omfg
What have we wrought
So is there anything MS can do at this point to Durango to make it as capable as the PS4?
So is there anything MS can do at this point to Durango to make it as capable as the PS4?
I can understand being frustrated at the previous design methods/teams but this, just like the Rayman stuff is hairbrained stuffhttp://www.joystiq.com/2013/02/27/devs-helped-shape-ps4-console-wasnt-designed-in-an-ivory-towe/
"We've been very closely involved in the development of the machine," said Hermen Hulst, co-founder of Killzone developer Guerrilla Games, to The Guardian. "It's no longer designed in an ivory tower somewhere in Tokyo, it's shared with us, with [Uncharted developer] Naughty Dog, with Sony San Diego – and together we've built the machine."
Ouch.
haha, straight-up lobbing shots at the guys that sign his cheques
lager was right about his people
What is ken k doing these days anyways?In those moments of fanboydom I still have I daydream about him going to SEGA and starting up a new SEGA console hw project :gloomy
What is ken k doing these days anyways?In those moments of fanboydom I still have I daydream about him going to SEGA and starting up a new SEGA console hw project :gloomy
POLYGONS ARE FOR LOSERS BEND OVER AND TAKE MY HOT VOXELhttp://advsys.net/ken/voxlap.htm
My previous boss was a Japanese guy and he ran into Ken at a Sony party. The PSX (DVR thing) had just come out.
My boss: Hey, I just wanted to tell you that I love the XMB interface.
Kutaragi: I KNOW.
My previous boss was a Japanese guy and he ran into Ken at a Sony party. The PSX (DVR thing) had just come out.
My boss: Hey, I just wanted to tell you that I love the XMB interface.
Kutaragi: I KNOW.
I want to see a modern game engine that only uses software rendered voxelsDoes cube world not count?
I think Minecraft's core actually uses voxels for data storage? Not sure
But they are UGLY voxels
as opposed to
What is ken k doing these days anyways?
What in the hell are voxels?Check the cube world video i posted on the bottom of the previous page
What in the hell are voxels?A volumetric pixel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voxels). There are a handful of games, like 3D Dot Game Heroes, that uses the art style.
Browsing through one of the thousand PS4 threads on gaf, I'm getting the impression that the PS4 has an awesome GPU, awesome RAM (did I mention it's GDDR5?), and a middling CPU. Is that about right?It depends what you compare it to. CPU, GPU and memory are all great compared to other gaming devices (consoles, handhelds, tablets, smarthphones). Of course they won't compare favorably with a modern high-end gaming PC.
as opposed to
What in the hell are voxels?
What in the hell are voxels?
http://bit.ly/xUTVNd
Following the announcement of the PlayStation 4 last month, Famitsu conducted a survey in which its readers were asked to vote for their most anticipated game unveiled for Sony’s new hardware.
With 89 votes it should come as no surprise that the next Final Fantasy is the top choice for Famitsu readers, even though nothing was shown for the game as opposed to other titles at the February 20th event.
Watch Dogs followed with 35, Deep Down had 34 votes, Killzone: Shadow Fall had 29 votes and inFAMOUS: Second Son came in last with 23.
Additionally, readers were also impressed by the PS4′s graphical capabilities ( 97 votes ) while even more ( 106 votes ) hotly anticipate the final price for the system over seeing its actual design ( 57 votes ).
In total, 1580 votes were submitted in the survey. Multiple choices were allowed.
Guess what Famitsu readers care about(if the translation is good)
http://hokanko-alt.ldblog.jp/archives/67819793.htmlQuoteFollowing the announcement of the PlayStation 4 last month, Famitsu conducted a survey in which its readers were asked to vote for their most anticipated game unveiled for Sony’s new hardware.
With 89 votes it should come as no surprise that the next Final Fantasy is the top choice for Famitsu readers, even though nothing was shown for the game as opposed to other titles at the February 20th event.
Watch Dogs followed with 35, Deep Down had 34 votes, Killzone: Shadow Fall had 29 votes and inFAMOUS: Second Son came in last with 23.
Additionally, readers were also impressed by the PS4′s graphical capabilities ( 97 votes ) while even more ( 106 votes ) hotly anticipate the final price for the system over seeing its actual design ( 57 votes ).
In total, 1580 votes were submitted in the survey. Multiple choices were allowed.
Japanese gaming magazine, Weekly Famitsu conducted a questionnaire between February 22nd and February 26th, where they asked Japanese game fans for their thoughts and opinions on Sony's upcoming console. The questionnaire consisted of 4 questions.
1. What were your initial impressions of the PS4?(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18gqdmtlu8uc5jpg/original.jpg)
"Developers are saying it's easy to program for so it looks like there'll be a lot of games." Responded a 36 year-old office worker. Of those who responded, roughly half said they were anticipating or highly anticipating the PS4 right out the gate. Some remained reserved, however, voicing concern at the overt focus on the overseas market or the fact that the console would not be compatible with PS3 game discs. A good portion also remained on the fence due to lack of intricate details.
2. What functions or services are you interested in?(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18gqdlq5dpnjtjpg/original.jpg)
Graphics were definitely the biggest point of interest for gamers, and the PS4 does not look to disappoint. Interestingly, however, more than the other additional features, people seemed to be looking forward to the decreased load time thanks to the Suspend Mode that maintains game progress in a low-power mode. This seems to indicate an overall present dissatisfaction having to go through the startup process to load a game in progress each time you power up a machine.
3. What upcoming game titles are you interested in?(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18gqdls4ayhisjpg/original.jpg)
4. What upcoming announcements are you looking forward to?
The pricetag. Or, more accurately, "how hard our wallets are going to be hit" was on the minds of most responders. And with good reason. The original 60GB PS3 shook Japanese buyers down for a hefty ¥59,980 (US$638.49) when it first came out. Sony has remained tight-lipped about the price of the PS4, but hopefully it won't be as costly.
Among people who responded with "other" were the following opinions:
"It looks like there will be a lot more network services, but I'd like to know just how much of them will be available for free. I'd like things that were free for the PS3, like online play, to remain that way." (28 year-old office worker)
"Won't cloud services suffer from network congestion depending on the game genre? I don't understand why they don't just make the PS4 backwards compatible with the PS3." (39 year-old office worker)
I understand what you mean about the touchpad, but is the DualShock3 easy to use with PCs, since it is also a normal BlueTooth device?
as opposed to
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As opposed to SICK ass voxels like the ones seen above
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Q: You showed us how you could use the Vita as a second screen in your living room. Is that local only, or is there any ambition with Gaikai to use that as a server and get further away in the living room?
A: Technically speaking, it works from anywhere, as far as you have a wi-fi connection from your Vita to the PlayStation 4. It needs to be wi-fi. However, for some games, when you play or connect from far away, it accumulates latency. Some games may not be playable, like fighting games or shooting games. But some other slower paced games will be playable. As long as you have home routers anywhere in your home, you can play every PlayStation 4 game. We ask developers when they finish the PlayStation 4 product and submit a master to make sure that they have the appropriate controller mapping to work on PS Vita. All games will work – unless it is a dance game [laughs].
Sony revealed the PS4 at an event in New York last month and it managed to impress a lot of industry people. Linus Blomberg, CTO and Co-founder of Avalanche Studios, is one of them.
I’m glad Sony decided to go with 8gb RAM because it means that the PS4 will out-power most PC’s for years to come.
No, the driver support for the DualShock3 isn't good at all. It will be the same with the DS4 unless Sony decides to provide the drivers themselves.
I was just thinking...
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/49/DualShock_4.png)
Assuming that it will be a standard bluetooth device, the DS4 could serve as a pretty good PC controller with that touch pad.
Suda51 is best known for his innovative and often surreal games like Killer 7, No More Heroes and Shadows Of The Damned.
"As has been announced, Grasshopper Manufacture will make games for PS4, as will (parent company) GungHo Online Entertainment and (sister company) Acquire. I can't go into detail at this stage, but for sure the new challenge is exciting," he added.
"During PlayStation Meeting 2013, Sony showed such a strong vision. Now we have to decide how to find our own victories within that and present games that express the Grasshopper world. And that makes me horny again."
I understand what you mean about the touchpad, but is the DualShock3 easy to use with PCs, since it is also a normal BlueTooth device?
it does work though, and with Macs too. You just need to pair it up using a cable /Settings panel on your Mac
On GPUs GDDR5 latency is slow, but throughput is really fast. On PS4 we don't know if they've addressed latency. - Linus Blomberg
Last week, Japanese gaming magazine Weekly Famitsu asked their readers what they thought about the PS4. In this week's issue, the question was lobbed in the direction of many of Japan's biggest game makers, to get the developer point of view on Sony's as-of-yet faceless console. Take a look at what some of them had to say:
The following 3 questions were posed to developers:
1. What are your impressions of the PlayStation 4?
2. Of the PlayStation 4's specs and functions, what stands out to you?
3. What sort of game would you like to develop utilizing the PlayStation 4's specs and functions?
• Acquire CEO, Takuma Endou
1. — "My impression of the hardware was, simply put, "chock-full." It has power, memory, a camera – it's the ultimate form of a game machine that can do anything. If I were to say anything negative, it would be that it was very hard to tell what made it unique."
2. — "How few limitations there were. As a developer, the fewer limitations a console, the easier it is to develop for, so that helps a lot. On the other hand, without limitations, it may be harder to create a 'selling point.'"
3. — "Since I don't think we can win in a battle of high quality graphics, I'd like a game that creatively uses the network functions and isn't too heavy or long. My desire to make a game that can sell on its ideas and entertainment was reinvigorated."
• Platinum Games Producer, Atsushi Inaba
1. — "I got the impression that the competitive field for consoles is moving from basic performance specs to peripheral services."
2. — "I'm not that interested in hardware specs like graphic processing. Of course, I thought [the PS4's specs] were quite impressive, but you can't win in a competition against PC gaming specs that are constantly evolving. I felt a great deal of potential in the peripheral stage that has been set to make use of new content. I'm also very interested in seeing what sort of reference content SCE will be bringing out so that the vision they have for the hardware is not diluted."
3. — "If we can fully exploit the peripheral services, we may be able to deliver a different 'virtual world' from the previous consoles. I'd like to try that approach."
• Capcom Producer, Hiroyuki Kobayashi
1. — "I was actually at the PlayStation Meeting 2013 where they announced it. When the PS4 logo appeared, I had the standard 'Yes! At last it's officially been announced!' sort of response, as well as wondering what sort of games would come out. As a user, I was very excited."
2. — "The high quality graphics and the processing power are obviously very promising, but I was also interested in how the PS4 would integrate social aspects and link with mobile platforms. The announced titles seem to take good advantage of the PS4's functions and specs and show a lot of different potential directions to take. I think we'll see a wider variety of titles than we did with the PS3."
3. — "The PS4's social connectivity functions will allow for many users to share their gameplay. The question is how to integrate this showing and viewing of gameplay within the game. How will users play with this function? Like a video arcade? Like YouTube? There are a lot of potential ideas. I think this will change the game experience a great deal. It's going to make figuring out what sort of services creators should offer users more challenging. I'd like to create something that will offer a new gaming experience."
• Level 5 Game Director, Jiro Ishii
1. — "I was surprised that the PlayStation, which has always maintained a sharp image, was taking a cost-performance-focused strategy. This made me both happy and sad."
2. — "I have high expectations for their strong appeal as 'hardware that's easy to develop for.' I'd like to know how the Share button is going to change game promotion and gameplay. I'm very interested."
3. — "Could the Share button change the way adventure games are played? It's easy to imagine its use for games with strong contingent game design like action games and stealth games, but with adventure games, that focus on showing a story, it feels like it would lead to story spoilers or making players feel like they've played the game just by watching. Still, there must be stories that can be expanded because they can be shared. Like a group piece where different protagonists are connected with the Share button and change the fate of the world… I'd like to try to make such a game scenario."
• Tecmo Koei Games Producer, Hisashi Koinuma
1. — "My initial impressions of the PS4 were that it is a 'true network game machine.'
2. — "The focus on sharing experiences. I was also intrigued by the ability to use the PS Vita, smart phones, or tablets as a second screen."
3. — "Normally, in order to talk about games with friends or family, you need them nearby. I believe users will be able to have meaningful communication with other users through the network, even from their own homes. I'd like to make a game that would make user participation in multi-player more fun, even if it's not in realtime."
• Sony Computer Entertainment Japan Director, Keiichirou Toyama
1. — "I felt the same thing with the PS Vita, but it's a piece of hardware that goes well with the adjective, 'Spartan.' The fat has been trimmed off as much as possible, and what's truly important has been compressed with no excess or deficiency."
2. — "Many users feel that FPS or RTS games should be played with a mouse. I felt the high universality of the DualShock 4 will be able to improve such standards of game control. I'm also interested in the increased network compatibility, especially the application of cloud technology and the coordination with mobile platforms, as well as the evolution of game and visual experiences of course."
3. — "It's a staple, but I'd like to make an adventure epic in a vast imaginary world. User communication is becoming a standard feature, but I'd like to have people having fun sharing their experiences of what they felt or saw rather than just items or parameters. That, or something you can clear in a few hours, like a first person supernatural nightmare experience."
• Konami Digital Entertainment Kojima Production Creative Producer, Yuji Korekado
1. — "The architecture was simpler than I thought it'd be. It seemed like the hardware specs are evolving as expected, with expansion beyond the hardware itself in mind."
2. — "The PlayStation App and the Share button. With the increased processing power, more realtime processing is possible and character AI can be more complex. Games will be about individual players enjoying different experiences each time they play. The ability to easily share each experience through video or gameplay anywhere was incredibly innovative."
3. — "Looking at the specs alone, where we used to show particle movements and flow for things like smoke, dust, and water currents by arranging patterns, we'll be able to have them processed in realtime. This will obviously help with visual effects, but can also be used to create new gameplay elements, like how we used the free slicing in Metal Gear Rising as a core gameplay element. I'd also like to focus on services that would emerge from the ability to connect from different platforms, anytime and anywhere."
Gearbox Software FX artist Nick Peterson
"As for the social aspect, I don't really care about it personally. I'm sure some will, but I also wonder if it is really as big as people claim it is or will be on consoles.
"It seems to me most peoples' social sphere sticks to Facebook and not much else at all. PlayStation Home was a flop, the social tools for the Vita don't seem to be used often, and honestly, I get tired of seeing and hearing 14 year old kids mouthing off at everyone when I play online."
Many people thought that PS4 constantly changed its architecture, but this is not true at all. In this article we will see 2 “pictures” of Playstation 4 and how it has evolved over the time. We are going to see that not all the components and speeds in the system are better than before.
There are 2 main differences:
- The 4 cores have been “upgraded” to 8 cores (this time as we know they are Jaguar cores instead Steamroller)
- RAM amount is still the same (4 GB, this change is very recent)
- Almost all the speeds are “downgraded”.
So now we have:
- “Garlic” bus between GPU and Memory (176 GB/s)
- “Onion” buses between GPU and Memory through CPU (10 GB/s shared)
- CPU bus between CPU and Memory (less than 20 GB/s). The only one apparently untouched.
As you can see, not all the changes in PS4 are made to improve the system performance. Major changes are the type of CPU and mostly the RAM amount in the system.
A correction was made to the article saying that the drive can read CD's--the system just won't support playback of music CD's.
As excited as I am about the PS4 I couldn't give a shit about the whole 'sharing' experience. Its like, who gives a fuck? for meHow ungrateful.
The fact that he spent so much of his personal time working on the question of just what hardware should go into the box made Cerny realize something important: "I probably have more passion about the next generation than anybody inside the Sony Computer Entertainment world."http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/189368/Inside_the_PlayStation_4_with_Mark_Cerny.php
With that in mind, he pitched his bosses on letting him lead the PlayStation 4 development efforts. To his surprise, he earned himself the role of lead system architect.
Unless MS comes out with some kind of miracle system, hardcore gamers are going to flock to PS4. Hopefully that is enough to keep Sony afloat.
As excited as I am about the PS4 I couldn't give a shit about the whole 'sharing' experience. Its like, who gives a fuck? for me
-Controller colors are the Player Numbers: 1-Blue, 2-Red, 3-Green, 4-Pink (Like the buttons)
-1920x900 resolution on the analog touchpad.
-buttons are going back to digital over analog because no one used it on PS3.
-Start/Select buttons are now “Options.” New System button is “Share.”
-Speaker, headset jack and “extension port” on the PS4 controller.
-Dedicated port for the PS4 camera, exclusive SCE Connector. Means it won't use a USB port on the console, but won't plug into your PCmeans Sony can sell you an extension cord
Adam Simmons @princeofcode/maxy
At PS4 dev talk. Platform is 64-bit x86. Dev environment is Win7 64-bit VS2010, LLVM/Clang with C++11 support. Wow, yes please.
As excited as I am about the PS4 I couldn't give a shit about the whole 'sharing' experience. Its like, who gives a fuck? for me
I think this is stupid talk.
I've wanted to share me playing a game on console for a long time, but before you had to have a video recorder. I love sharing my game screeshots and stuff too. And you can't even do that on modern consoles.
I'm pretty sure you posted shit ton of pics of your Skyrim character in the Skyrim thread, but you don't care about social features that allow console players to finally do that crap? :wtf
I think it's cool.
Yeah, the sharing features are some of the most innovative stuff on the console so far. The fact you can stream a video and send it to youtube is A+++ for me. The fact you don't need a video card or those expensive gadgets is godsend. How in the world can anyone hate on that? That's cool as shit.
-Remote play for #PS4 games is BOTH via local network and/or Internet.
-No more needing of launching a remote play more on #PS4, like you had to do on PS3. Software can help map buttons that don't exist in Vita.
-1920x900 resolution on the analog touchpad.
Dedicated port for the #PS4 camera, exclusive SCE Connector. Means it won't use a USB port on the console, but won't plug into your PC.
QuoteAdam Simmons @princeofcode/maxy
At PS4 dev talk. Platform is 64-bit x86. Dev environment is Win7 64-bit VS2010, LLVM/Clang with C++11 support. Wow, yes please.
It is just a touchpad. The resolution (in relation to its size) just tells you how sensitive it is.Quote-1920x900 resolution on the analog touchpad.I'm confused. is it just a touchpad or is it a screen? this controller confuses the shit out of me
Quote-1920x900 resolution on the analog touchpad.
wait what
I'm confused. is it just a touchpad or is it a screen? this controller confuses the shit out of me
Money is money.QuoteAdam Simmons @princeofcode/maxy
At PS4 dev talk. Platform is 64-bit x86. Dev environment is Win7 64-bit VS2010, LLVM/Clang with C++11 support. Wow, yes please.
Windows 8 :gloomy :violin
QuoteAdam Simmons @princeofcode
At PS4 dev talk. Platform is 64-bit x86. Dev environment is Win7 64-bit VS2010, LLVM/Clang with C++11 support. Wow, yes please.
IGN’s Greg Miller is on-hand for the event and has been live-tweeting tidbits from the presentation. We’ve gathered up what’s been shared below.
- Targeted to be the “central device in the living room”
- “Core gamers are our primary audience
- PS4 build around them, salable to the outsiders
- 5 core PS4 principles: Simple, Immediate, Social, Integrated, Personalized
- PS4 CPU: 64-bit x86 arch, low power consumption, low heat, 8 cores, 8 HW threads, 2MiB L2 cache per 4 core group, 32kib l1 I/D-cache
- PlayStation Shader Language, very similar to HLSL, allows featured BEYOND Direct X 11 and OpenGL 4.0
- “GPU – Tessellation – adding geometric detail to smooth edges or create more organic shapes”
- PS4 RAM – 8GB 256 bit GDDR5 (GDDR5 is very high end graphics memory only found on PC graphics cards)
- Will come with “very large hard drive in every console”
- PS4 Dev Environment – Windows 7-bit, tools are fully integrated into Visual Studio 2010 and 2012
- “Debug your PS4 code as you would your PC code”
- PS4 Controller: Start/Select buttons are now “Options.” New System button is “Share.”
- Speaker, headset hack and “extension port” on the PS4 controller
- PS4 controller buttons are going back to digital over analog because no one used it on PS3
- PS4 controller L2/R2 – Curved design to get rid of the accidental netflix fast forwarding
- PS4 controller: 1920×900 resolution on the analog touchpad
- PS4 controller colors are the Player Numbers: 1-Blue, 2-Red, 3-Green, 4-Pink (Like the buttons)
- PS4 will charge controllers when it’s off. Unlike the PS3.
- PS4 controller light bar can be used for muzzle flashes, health bars, etc
- “The #PS4 Eye will enhance the PS4 user experience.” High sensitivity dual color cameras – 1280×800, 12 bits/pixel, 60Hz
- Dedicated port for the #PS4 camera, exclusive SCE Connector. Means it won’t use a USB port on the console, but won’t plug into your PC.
- Cam suggested uses: walkthrough vids, taunting in killcam, login, speech recognition, etc; possible PS4 Camera Magic – Sees the controller, you guys move, splitscreen moves to be on the right side
- The above is what devs could do (not mandatory)
- Video example shown of PS4 combining the camera and the controller. “AR Menu”
- Zoom into the controller, tilt to shake little dudes inside, push into our world like EyePet
- 2004: XMB, 2011: LiveArea, 2013: New #PS4 one based on the five principles from earlier
- UI is meant to give you at a glance info without loading the game. See what new DLC is out and whatnot. What friends are saying.
- Have to enable people seeing your real name on the #PS4. Auto-enabled if you import from another social network. (Can be turned off)
- PSN friend limit raised
- PS4 Mock-up: Heavy Rain choice with the number of your friends that chose each option.
- All the PS4 streaming and sharing: that’s on the hardware. Devs don’t have to do anything special to their game.
- PS4 Remote Play: Screens are mirrored on PS4/Vita (Both on at same time). Hardware does it/not on devs. Start at any time; no special mode.
- Talking about the PlayStation App. Login, buy game, PS4 starts downloading at home, you get home and start playing the part that’s DWLD
Force feedback has two (1 small, 1 big) analog motors, as opposed to the digital ones in PS3. Allows for "more precise, cool effects."
Removing "analog" face buttons and going with digital will "cut latency way down" for the new controller.
The system will stream 32Khz sound up to 2 controllers, and 16Khz for 3 or more players.
- Targeted to be the “central device in the basement”
- “Core gamers are our primary audience
- “Core gamers are our primary audienceThat sound you hear is investors bailing out in droves.
Part 1:
Focusing on the “positive aspects” and Moving to the x86 Architecture
Cerney states that he started thinking about a “next generation console” in Fall 2007. SCE should have gone into basic R&D regarding next gen technologies soon after PS3’s release and this falls in-line with when Cerney started investigating.
Cerney: I had started discussions regarding the next generation following PS3 in 2007. At that time, I was investigating what should be done for next generation [technologies]. It was at that time, I wondered if we couldn’t use the x86 architecture for the next generation. I used then entirety of Thanksgiving weekend looking into this (lol). For Americans, this holiday is extremely important. But, that’s how I sacrificed (lol) the holidays to think about the future and what possibilities this might bring for our organization.
After that, I went to Phil Harrison since he was at the top of the game development division. I was also introduced to Masayuki Chatani who was SCE’s CTO at that time and was directing the next-gen project. What was surprising was that he said “yes” to me being involved with the next generation console.
By moving to the x86 architecture, this also means losing backwards compatibility with PS3. The basis of Cerney’s vision was to use this x86 architecture. This is a huge tradeoff, but SCE accepted this vision.
Cerney: We struggled with this point. As a matter of fact, this was the major point I thought about during Thanksgiving. What to do with the current CPU and x86…
We decided to focus on the “positive aspects” rising from switching to x86. X86 has instruction sets which are of significant importance for games. Multimedia instruction sets, specifically the existence of SSE 4.1 and 4.2. And of course, the existence of an APU gives us the ability to come close to the results obtained from the SPU.
The decision to move to x86 had an extremely complex set of requirements. Of course there’s issues of backwards compatibility and issues from the vendor’s side as well. But that said, I believe the biggest topic for us was how much affinity the developers would have for this change. In the past 3 years, there have been a large number of refined tools and technologies released for the x86 architecture. If another architecture had been selected, it probably would have been even more problematic. The x86 architecture is well known and development is relatively easy.
Ito: Backwards compatibility, particularly in Japan, is something that is strongly brought frequently, so we thought long and hard about this. Realistically, to support backwards compatibility with PS3, the CELL Broadband Engine would have needed to been part of the new console. Currently, it’s not possible to simulate this via software. If CELL were the only requirement, that wouldn’t have been much of an issue. We would also need to support the supporting hardware indefinitely. We can freely manufacture CELL if the decision is made that it is needed. However, that’s not the case with supporting hardware. There are parts which will become difficult to obtain since 7 years is already considered to be long in the IT industry…
Using this opportunity, we decided to stop going down this path, and as Mark said, to focus our efforts on simplifying developer efforts.
Essentially, SCE’s thinking was that when considering focusing on sustaining and maintaining PS3 (and prior) hardware long-term, they also saw the need to transition to a “more ordinary” platform. It can be interpreted that x86 offered easier development opportunities and also provided for a way to get away from a “proprietary” track, leading to this decision.
Now, SCE hasn’t come to a conclusion regarding the BC problem. It’s said that use of Cloud long-term is part of their vision, but more accurately, SCE is evaluating various content in various forms including sustaining BC.
GPU Customization with use of GPGPU in Mind. Difference in Launch Title Numbers
Use of the x86 architecture also means externally, it becomes difficult to see the difference between PC development. How does Cerney think about how to showcase the difference and value of PS4?
Cerney: Our primary target is to provide a powerful system that developers are familiar with. It goes without saying an x86 CPU has high familiarity. From a power perspective, and providing new possibilities, it will become more important to realize technologies benefiting from a GPU. GPUs increase graphics performance and have been used in that manner traditionally. But, the computing capabilities of GPU will be harnessed in various areas in manners we can’t even begin to think of now.
This essentially means, [PS4] will be a console that not only focuses on CPU performance, but also on GPU performance…essentially a realization of a console using a GPGPU. In fact, at the PS4 press conference, a physics demo using the GPGPU was shown, and PS4 has an added value proposition of having a high performance GPGPU as a core feature set of the platform. For that purpose, the PS3 CPU and GPU has a few proprietary tricks up its sleeve.
Cerney: The GPGPU for us is a feature that is of utmost importance. For that purpose, we’ve customized the existing technologies in many ways.
Just as an example…when the CPU and GPU exchange information in a generic PC, the CPU inputs information, and the GPU needs to read the information and clear the cache, initially. When returning the results, the GPU needs to clear the cache, then return the result to the CPU. We’ve created a cache bypass. The GPU can return the result using this bypass directly. By using this design, we can send data directly from the main memory to the GPU shader core. Essentially, we can bypass the GPU L1 and L2 cache. Of course, this isn’t just for data read, but also for write. Because of this, we have an extremely high bandwidth of 10GB/sec.
Also, we’ve also added a little tag to the L2 cache. We call this the VOLATILE tag. We are able to control data in the cache based on whether the data is marked with VOLATILE or not. If this tag is used, this data can be written directly to the memory. As a result, the entirety of the cache can be used efficiently for graphics processing.
This function allows for harmonization of graphics processing and computing, and allows for efficient function of both. Essentially “Harmony” in Japanese. We’re trying to replicate the SPU Runtime System (SPURS) of the PS3 by heavily customizing the cache and bus. SPURS is designed to virtualize and independently manage SPU resources. For the PS4 hardware, the GPU can also be used in an analogous manner as x86-64 to use resources at various levels. This idea has 8 pipes and each pipe(?) has 8 computation queues. Each queue can execute things such as physics computation middle ware, and other prioprietarily designed workflows. This, while simultaneously handling graphics processing.
This type of functionality isn’t used widely in the launch titles. However, I expect this to be used widely in many games throughout the life of the console and see this becoming an extremely important feature.
Note: I took out most of the commentary....
Part 2
GPU Customization with use of GPGPU in Mind. Difference in Launch Title Numbers (cont’d)
Cerney: In the next few years, we’ll also be supporting a different approach
We have our own shader APIs, but in the future, we’ll provide functions which will allow deeper access to the hardware level and it will be possible to directly control hardware using the shader APIs. As a mid-term target, in addition to common PC APIs such as OpenGL and DirectX, we’ll provide full access to our hardware.
Regarding the CPU, we can use well known hardware, and regarding the GPU, as developers devote time to it, new possibilities which weren’t possible before will open up.
The properties of CPU and GPU are quite difference, so in the current stage, if you were to use an unified architecture such as HSA, it will be difficult to efficiently use the CPU and GPU. However, once the CPU and GPU are able to use the same APIs, development efficiency should increase exponentially. This will be rather huge. Thus, we expect to see this as somewhat of a long-term goal.
Regarding easier development, talking about the action game KNACK
Cerney: I’ve spoken with a lot of developers, but most of the developers are saying that creating a game is considerably easier.
Working on a game myself, I feel that is true. KNACK is still in development, but the PS4, compared to the PS3, really makes game development easy.
This will also lead to the main difference with the PS3 era. The main difference is, we will have many titles for launch. Because game development is easier, there shouldn’t be a barrier as there had been previously. PS3 had the image that it was difficult to develop for. Even the PS2 wasn’t that easy. PS4 has a PC CPU and a GPU that’s been enhanced from a PC so the game lineup should become very rich.
The most important difference is, it won’t take as much technical training, so developers can focus more on the game-play aspects. That’s ideal isn’t it? As a result, [gamers] should a world with a richer gaming experience.
Regarding 4KTV, he is a little passive
Cerney: hm…(lol). Personally, I’m very interested in 4K
We’re still in the initial stages of supporting 4Kx2K in games. Our focus is to provide for a solid FullHD experience. We can secure the display buffer for Game and OS separately, and can provide for independent scaling of both as well. (Regarding 4K) We can provide an extremely smooth user interface.
If we consider purely memory bandwidth, with 4K, securing 2 displays worth of display buffer requires 10GB/sec. That just for simply displaying.
This is our simple answer for why we’re focusing on just the FullHD experience.
PS4 will read CDs, but will not play back audio CD music.
Realizing Energy Efficiency and Smoothness using a Second Custom Chip with Embedded CPU
Cerny: The second custom chip is essentially the Southbridge. However, this also has an embedded CPU. This will always be powered, and even when the PS4 is powered off, it is monitoring all IO systems. The embedded CPU and Southbridge manages download processes and all HDD access. Of course, even with the power off.
Ito: The second custom chip also takes into consideration environmental problems. For background downloading, if the main CPU needs to be started every time, energy consumption increases significantly, so we run this with the second chip. Particularly in Europe, there are strict energy consumption regulations, so handling consumption in this manner is also one of our goals.
Cerney: There’s also network bandwidth considerations. Background downloading allows for smooth downloading of large files even when bandwidth is limited.
More importantly, this helps reduce the time required until a game can be played. Simultaneously, this also allows for decreased initial downloads. Only the first few GB are downloaded during the initial play session and while the game is being played, the remaining portions will be downloaded. Of course, even with the power off, the remaining download will continue. So, the primary goal is to decrease the amount of download time before initial play.
Cerney: The data is logically divided into a few chunks, and uploaded [to the server by the dev?] with a specially annotated script. Further, based on how the script is written, additional customization is possible. For example, downloading of single player portion or multiplayer portion first…Related to this…system memory has increased by 16x since PS3, but the BD drive transfer speed has only increased a few fold. Because of this, using a similar technique, it’s possible to copy just the important parts from the BD to the HDD and start the game. By doing this, it’s possible to load directly more smoothly from the faster HDD. Of course, it’s possible to stream the data from a ginormous BD and play a game as well.
Note:Commentary removed again...getting late so sorry for typos
Part 3 (last one)
Built-In Video Encoder for Video Sharing and Vita Remote-Play
Cerney: The PS4 has a dedicated encoder for video sharing and such. There are a few dedicated encoder and decoder functions which are available and use the APU minimally. This is also used for playback of compressed in-game audio in MP3 and audio chat.
When the system is fully on, the x86 CPU core controls the video sharing system. However the Southbridge has features to assist with network traffic control.
Cerny: While investigating the initial hardware design, we had been thinking about what aspects will become important in the future. All hardware components have been prepared with enveloping the gamer with a realizing a wonderful user experience.
Our team thought deeply of the concept of “computer entertainment”. People from other Sony groups participated and we investigated this from many different angles. Since we are the “game” people, we have UI specialists, and Richard Marcks(sp?) (father of SCE’s Natural UI design)was involved as well. This multi-facetted team spent a few weeks discussing how amazing of a user-experience we could realize.
So, how does this affect games?
Ito: For example, even without a PS4, this time, we can use the PlayStation App to see game details (content?). Even without a PS4, you would be able to experience “man, this game looks fun” or “this game might be pretty good”. And with this, it is our hopes that the allure of the PS4 will be evident.
Of course, if a gamer shares images on Facebook, you can see this from Facebook without the PlayStation App.
Regarding Vita Remote-Play
Cerney: Vita Remote Play is special.
Smartphones and Tablets are used to see game information regarding the PS4 in various places, experienced in various places. In addition to this, this type of content can be seen on the PC as well using a web platform.
PS4 has video encoding hardware, and this is used with Video [Miracast?-type] feature. Vita’s control inputs are sent to the PS3, and using these functionalities, with minimal overhead and no pain, it becomes possible to remotely play PS4 games. Atleast, this is what we’re aiming for, and compared to the PS3 era, we’re aiming for a significantly wider support of remote play. Of course, this function applies to games using Dualshock. Games that use the camera (such as PS Move and PS4 location recognition) cannot utilize remoteplay.
Leaving that aside, Vita’s remote play was developed to provide as close to perfect PS4 gameplay within a household as possible. This requires connection to a Wifi network and should be used in a low latency environment. The thinking here is also that even if someone else is using the TV, you can continue playing PS4 games.
Use of Real Names for Gaming without Walls, Use of a BSD base for a Rich OS Layer
Cerney: We’re investigating using the network to switch control between players. Just keep in mind, this doesn’t mean these types of features will all be present on Day 1. Please understand that we’re preparing and investigating these as features supportable on the platform.
Either which way, use of social interactions to stimulate gameplay should become a huge weapon in our arsenal.
Just my image of things but…think of it like being in a living room. When you’re playing a game with your friends, there’s no physical wall to prevent interaction. It’s kind of like having hundreds of friends gaming with you nearby, but this feeling while you’re sitting at the end of a network. We want to act as the facilitators to enable this; to enable the feeling of actually meeting and enjoying gaming with your real world friends around the world. Over the course of a few years, we’ll support all the features required to support and achieve this goal.
For this purpose, PS4’s OS layer is very rich compared to PS3 or Vita
Cerney: The OS is based on BSD. I believe this is the first game console using this architecture.
From the OS side, the PS4 will allow use of many multiple features simultaneously. Our goal is something like the following:
Send a video of the game you’re playing, and return to the game immediately to continue playing. Then, watch a game play video from your friend, then switch to video chat with that friend right away. If you see interesting DLC that your friend has, move to the store, then be able to ask your friend if it’s the right one.
In this manner, we envision it to be possible to come-and-go between and use many features. Even for multi-player games, you would be able to move the game to the background without quitting, and go through a similar routine.
The facilitation by the OS will allow for a rich set of actions.
Regarding the “real name” policy
Cerney: The concept of aliases for online games is the current paradigm. For example, in a multiplayer deathmatch, it’s better to have an alias, right? However, when coop aspects or communications leveraging social interactions are brought into the game, it’s better not to have an alias. For example, let’s say you gift an item you earn in a game to a friend. That type of interaction should evoke a completely different feeling than when you’re playing the game.
Of course, we respect the desire to use an alias for game play as well. We support that type of gaming too. Having a deathmatch using aliases is possible on the PS4 as well. But at the same time, we want to support aspects which increase the fun of gaming with real world friends. For example, wouldn’t it be wonderful to meet a college friend you haven’t seen in ages?
Use of Real Names for Gaming without Walls, Use of a BSD base for a Rich OS Layer
Cerney: We’re investigating using the network to switch control between players. Just keep in mind, this doesn’t mean these types of features will all be present on Day 1. Please understand that we’re preparing and investigating these as features supportable on the platform.
Please understand
pictures
http://www.engadget.com/gallery/playstation-4-dualshock-4-and-ps4-eye-gdc-2013/5771583/
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Features listQuoteIGN’s Greg Miller is on-hand for the event and has been live-tweeting tidbits from the presentation. We’ve gathered up what’s been shared below.
- Targeted to be the “central device in the living room”
- “Core gamers are our primary audience
- PS4 build around them, salable to the outsiders
- 5 core PS4 principles: Simple, Immediate, Social, Integrated, Personalized
- PS4 CPU: 64-bit x86 arch, low power consumption, low heat, 8 cores, 8 HW threads, 2MiB L2 cache per 4 core group, 32kib l1 I/D-cache
- PlayStation Shader Language, very similar to HLSL, allows featured BEYOND Direct X 11 and OpenGL 4.0
- “GPU – Tessellation – adding geometric detail to smooth edges or create more organic shapes”
- PS4 RAM – 8GB 256 bit GDDR5 (GDDR5 is very high end graphics memory only found on PC graphics cards)
- Will come with “very large hard drive in every console”
- PS4 Dev Environment – Windows 7-bit, tools are fully integrated into Visual Studio 2010 and 2012
- “Debug your PS4 code as you would your PC code”
- PS4 Controller: Start/Select buttons are now “Options.” New System button is “Share.”
- Speaker, headset hack and “extension port” on the PS4 controller
- PS4 controller buttons are going back to digital over analog because no one used it on PS3
- PS4 controller L2/R2 – Curved design to get rid of the accidental netflix fast forwarding
- PS4 controller: 1920×900 resolution on the analog touchpad
- PS4 controller colors are the Player Numbers: 1-Blue, 2-Red, 3-Green, 4-Pink (Like the buttons)
- PS4 will charge controllers when it’s off. Unlike the PS3.
- PS4 controller light bar can be used for muzzle flashes, health bars, etc
- “The #PS4 Eye will enhance the PS4 user experience.” High sensitivity dual color cameras – 1280×800, 12 bits/pixel, 60Hz
- Dedicated port for the #PS4 camera, exclusive SCE Connector. Means it won’t use a USB port on the console, but won’t plug into your PC.
- Cam suggested uses: walkthrough vids, taunting in killcam, login, speech recognition, etc; possible PS4 Camera Magic – Sees the controller, you guys move, splitscreen moves to be on the right side
- The above is what devs could do (not mandatory)
- Video example shown of PS4 combining the camera and the controller. “AR Menu”
- Zoom into the controller, tilt to shake little dudes inside, push into our world like EyePet
- 2004: XMB, 2011: LiveArea, 2013: New #PS4 one based on the five principles from earlier
- UI is meant to give you at a glance info without loading the game. See what new DLC is out and whatnot. What friends are saying.
- Have to enable people seeing your real name on the #PS4. Auto-enabled if you import from another social network. (Can be turned off)
- PSN friend limit raised
- PS4 Mock-up: Heavy Rain choice with the number of your friends that chose each option.
- All the PS4 streaming and sharing: that’s on the hardware. Devs don’t have to do anything special to their game.
- PS4 Remote Play: Screens are mirrored on PS4/Vita (Both on at same time). Hardware does it/not on devs. Start at any time; no special mode.
- Talking about the PlayStation App. Login, buy game, PS4 starts downloading at home, you get home and start playing the part that’s DWLDQuoteForce feedback has two (1 small, 1 big) analog motors, as opposed to the digital ones in PS3. Allows for "more precise, cool effects."
Removing "analog" face buttons and going with digital will "cut latency way down" for the new controller.
The system will stream 32Khz sound up to 2 controllers, and 16Khz for 3 or more players.
Both those tech demos look pretty good to me. I'd hope nobody is seriously hung up on the differences.
What's said and shown initially is never how things actually turn out. :-*
Both those tech demos look pretty good to me. I'd hope nobody is seriously hung up on the differences.
I dunno sometimes the difference is large Like the sparks coming otu of his back when he gets up and the shadows from the sky. I am hoping that it is just an early video which is probably what it is.
Both those tech demos look pretty good to me. I'd hope nobody is seriously hung up on the differences.
I dunno sometimes the difference is large Like the sparks coming otu of his back when he gets up and the shadows from the sky. I am hoping that it is just an early video which is probably what it is.
Not really its missing global illumination, DOF and Tessellation, and a shit ton of particles pretty damning if you ask me.spoiler (click to show/hide)Epic gutted global illumitation out of UE4 because the consoles can't handle it, another gen of prebaked lighting. :fbm[close]
"Biggest differences are SVOGI has been replaced with a more efficient GI solution, a slight scale down in the number of particles for some FX, and tessellation is broken on ps4 in the current build which the lava used for displacement. We will fix the tessellation in the future."
Both those tech demos look pretty good to me. I'd hope nobody is seriously hung up on the differences.
I dunno sometimes the difference is large Like the sparks coming otu of his back when he gets up and the shadows from the sky. I am hoping that it is just an early video which is probably what it is.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-unreal-engine-4-ps4-vs-pc
Not really its missing global illumination, DOF and Tessellation, and a shit ton of particles pretty damning if you ask me.spoiler (click to show/hide)Epic gutted global illumitation out of UE4 because the consoles can't handle it, another gen of prebaked lighting. :fbm[close]
It has GI
From EpicQuote"Biggest differences are SVOGI has been replaced with a more efficient GI solution, a slight scale down in the number of particles for some FX, and tessellation is broken on ps4 in the current build which the lava used for displacement. We will fix the tessellation in the future."
This has been done on "crippled" UE4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iW8GcI_SEU
Best looking next gen tech demo by far.
Article was updated with comments from Epic.
First video's not even available to watch in the US. :yuckWhat's said and shown initially is never how things actually turn out. :-*youtube
First video's not even available to watch in the US. :yuckWhat's said and shown initially is never how things actually turn out. :-*youtube
Third-party developers were not aware that PlayStation 4 would include 8GB of GDDR5 RAM until Sony's reveal event in February - despite having received development kits long before the console's announcement.
Speaking with VideoGamer.com, Just Add Water's CEO Stewart Gilray - who is developing a mystery title for PlayStation 4 - revealed that third-parties were initially told that the console would feature only 4GB of RAM, and were left happily surprised when the system's lead architect Mark Cerny discussed the console's specs on stage.
"We were told [PS4] was 4GB originally," Gilray told us, "and we first knew it had 8GBs when Mark said at the event's stage, 'And it has 8GB of memory.' We'd had kits at that point for a good while."
The PlayStation 4 has been so carefully designed that developers won't find a performance bottleneck, Michiel Van Der Leeuw, technical director at Guerrilla Games, has told Edge.
"The fact that the best pieces of hardware are also devised from, or optimized versions of, the stuff we find in PCs doesn't make it any less a console," Van Der Leeuw explained. "A PC is a number of parts that also [have] bridges in-between, where there are inefficiencies that may [come in if they're not] exactly the right match."
But with the PS4, Sony has - allegedly - been able to ensure these inefficiencies don't exist.
Van Der Leeuw continued: "We've got the right amount of memory, video card; everything's balanced out. It was a very conscious effort to make sure that – with the speed of the memory, the amount of compute units, the speed of the hard drive – there would not be any bottlenecks.
"I think it was for more than a year that we knew the main ingredients and there was just discussion after discussion trying to find a bottleneck. Take a look at this design; try to find the bottleneck."
Is it true, is maxy really an MS fanboy? :'(
Its a double page interview with the game and technical directors from Evolution studios, but it mostly focuses on the Dualshock 4 and how they helped with its design.
Because they obviously know it'll go down well they specifically talk about how they had input on the parts for the gyro control and how they had to compromise with the Killzone team on how much subtlety of control the triggers have. They also have a Motorstorm RC prototype with the DS4 which apparently takes advantage of 'reduced deadzone size and more accurate sticks'.
There's also some talk about how there were mockups for the game that look like dating websites. Oh and how its not a simulation or arcade game but something new.
Is it true, is maxy really an MS fanboy? :'(
Is it true, is maxy really an MS fanboy? :'(
lol people are now realizing this?
maxy better ask for a nick change soonThe Bore's own Adam Orth
That's their 4K media player. Basically a super expensive Ultra HD Sony version of a Roku/Apple TV.
The PlayStation 4 will ship with a massive 8 GB of GDDR5 memory, which is a huge upgrade compared to the current generation consoles. However, according to a PlayStation 4 developer PS4Daily spoke to, they have access to “only” 7 GB of RAM. The remaining 1 GB is reserved for the operating system and background tasks.
Sony originally shipped dev kits to third party developers with only 4 GB RAM, and kept the true RAM amount secret from third party developers in order to keep it secret from Microsoft as well. Developers learned about the 8 GB of memory when the rest of the world did — during the February unveiling.
7GB for games is a pretty big thing.
Your underwears have lots of room for growth
Doesn't mean that anything will be growing
:umad
Your underwears have lots of room for growth
Doesn't mean that anything will be growing
:umad
Your underwears have lots of room for growth:lol :lol :lol
Doesn't mean that anything will be growing
:umad
Remember the last time that 2/3 years into a gen you went like "oh man they really shouldnt have added this good component I wish they would have stuck something worse in"?
Never ever
I expect Sony's First Party to smoke the competition with ridiculous ease.
Why?
These are the same developers who learned endlessly complex hardware with the PS3 and STILL had their games look ages better than third parties AND MS.
And now you're giving them a console that's literally a PC and having 7 GB of extremely efficient RAM to work with, when they've been USED to working their asses off with extremely complex hardware?
lol it's going to be an absolute slaughter.
CVG understands that Sony is weeks away from revealing its next Gran Turismo title.http://www.computerandvideogames.com/401434/retailer-lists-gran-turismo-6-for-ps3/
And why did you post this in the PS4 thread? :/
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much better than the lame gddr-5 tan we have here on bore :smug
"One thing we could have done is drop it down to 128-bit bus, which would drop the bandwidth to 88 gigabytes per second, and then have eDRAM on chip to bring the performance back up again," said Cerny. While that solution initially looked appealing to the team due to its ease of manufacturability, it was abandoned thanks to the complexity it would add for developers.I wonder if they'll end up regretting this decision. Isn't Durango rumored to use a similar eSRAM solution?
He said that the Share button will have its limitations, however, and that users will not quite have free reign to upload whatever in-game footage they like.
He said that the Share button will have its limitations, however, and that users will not quite have free reign to upload whatever in-game footage they like.
He said that the Share button will have its limitations, however, and that users will not quite have free reign to upload whatever in-game footage they like.
Sony is pathetic. Two months have gone by since their reveal and...nothing. :mindblown
Steal the Xbox's thunder, capitalize on the rumors...whatever! They have seriously nothing else to show us until E3?
http://www.edge-online.com/features/something-about-japan-shuhei-yoshida-on-the-war-for-the-living-room/QuoteHe said that the Share button will have its limitations, however, and that users will not quite have free reign to upload whatever in-game footage they like.QuoteHe said that the Share button will have its limitations, however, and that users will not quite have free reign to upload whatever in-game footage they like.QuoteHe said that the Share button will have its limitations, however, and that users will not quite have free reign to upload whatever in-game footage they like.
hehe
Game Informer published a new preview about DriveClub in its June 2013 issue. We’ve posted a few details rounded up from the article below.
- Play offline in single-player
- Also has a big online focus
- User-created race challenges encouraged
- Everything you do is tracked by a single profile in single-plaer
- With teams, accomplishments are funneled together into the larger success of the group
- Three-on-three team challenges included
- Create events based on different parameters: car type, track, time of day, weather, etc.
- Can make lengthy multi-stage events that take place over a number of days
- Participants can span in the thousands with hundreds of different teams
- Win smaller accolades to add team’s XP
- These include clocking the fastest lap, drifting 1,000 meters, going 0 to 60 the fastest
- Use apps outside of DriveClub to make challenges as well
- Spread accomplishments and media through social media chanels
- Evolution will be making its own season of league racing through weekly online race events
- Visuals and gameplay are equally important
- DualShock 4′s touchpad is used for menu navigation, for the most part
- Touchpad also being considered for cameras
- Not a simulation-based racer
- Damage cars take won’t determine how they handle
- Koenigsegg, Maserati, Pagani, Hennessey are represented
- Start off with slightly less glamorous cars
- Race and increase fame/funds to gain access to better cars
- More people will watch you race as well
- More cars will be added through DLC; will be “one of the biggest titles for Sony from a DLC perspective”
Does anyone else think Japanese devs will support the PS4 pretty heavily compared to Nextbox? MS probably isn't as willing to moneyhat JP games this time around.
Does anyone else think Japanese devs will support the PS4 pretty heavily compared to Nextbox? MS probably isn't as willing to moneyhat JP games this time around.
Does Wii U support cd's? That would be funny
A recent Edge article claimed that the console would be released in 2014 across the UK and other European countries. But an insider involved with PlayStation's business strategy now expects Microsoft will make more aggressive advances into Europe as it fights for market dominance.
The source told CVG that Sony, having learned hard lessons from the 360's first-mover advantage, will renew efforts to maintain its success in the region.
With Sony expecting Microsoft to tackle Europe more aggressively, CVG has heard from a company insider that PlayStation is "prepared to do whatever it takes" to ensure there is no PS4 delay across Europe.
It remains unclear whether there will be a PS4 supply shortage that would affect its output across any of the main three markets, but CVG understands that, if the launch stock is tight, the US and Europe will be the priority over the perceivably "safe" region of Japan.
MS were aggressive in Europe last time, too. It doesn't matter. They have no idea how to appeal to anyone other than Americans or those whose culture is very, very similar to Americans.
http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=57680600&postcount=2
http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=57680600&postcount=2
Our approach on PS4 is similar to what we did to PS3.
We’re using our own job scheduler to distribute the load over 6 CPU’s.
A lot of the old SPU jobs easily fell into place, but it was mostly the rendering code.
We spent most of the time porting gamecode and AI to jobs and then a lot of time fixing crashes.
As of now all of our code now runs in parallel using jobs.
Sony is going to give PlayStation 4 a big marketing push and the keywords behind it are "Greatness Awaits." Siliconera obtained a leak from a company working on the campaign. The commercial starts off by showing an empty road in a small town. A lone guy walks down the road towards the camera and says, "Who are you not to be great? You, with the imagination of a brilliant child and the powers of an ancient god."
"Who are you to be ordinary? You, who could get away with murder, or raise the dead…" As the guy says this the buildings start to look damaged.
"Who are you to be anonymous? You, whose name should be spoken in reverent tones or in terrified whispers." We hear a distant screech – and in the far background some windows blow out from the sound. Suddenly, two people sprint the opposite way covered in yellow paint.
"Who are you to be afraid? You, who can serve as judge and jury while hoarding infinite lives." The nearby buildings appear increasingly damaged as he walks. We begin to notice a few people are starting to come out and follow behind him – three friends fall in behind while a kid on a BMX bike rolls in from an alley off the
main street, his friend is standing on the back foot pegs carrying a hockey stick and wearing a homemade cape. He passes by some abandoned cars in the middle of the road. But more brave souls have joined our hero’s cause.They walk behind him – following him wherever it is he is headed.
"Who are you to be a slave to the past? You who can travel time like the oceans and rewrite history with a single word." Without wavering and with growing focus our hero continues to head straight towards camera, passing some rubble spattered in yellow paint. With the wind blowing against him and the sounds of chaos in front, he begins to raise his voice to be heard. In the background, we see a home-made lag painted with the icon from Destiny unfurl out a broken window.
"Who are you to deny greatness? If you would deny it to yourself, you deny it to the entire world."
Those are next gen graphics? :shaq2
Those are next gen graphics? :shaq2
The problem is that they need to convince the average customer that this is some kind of step up from what they already have. Early PS3 games don't look as good as today's PS3 games, but they sure as hell looked obviously and significantly better than late PS2 games in similar genres.Sure, diminishing returns will be an issue for next-gen consoles especially for people who play on low-end TVs without a dedicated audio system. For Driveclub I think they'll try to push other features like seamless online team multiplayer instead of the graphics.
1080p 30fps will be the next gen standardYep, and that's fine for genres like RPG, strategy and adventure. I hope more developers aim for 60 FPS when it comes to faster games.
1080p 30fps will be the next gen standard
Would be nice if they included a 720p option w/ higher framerates, but I doubt most devs will bother.
30 fps, too.
this shot looks good:
Driveclub looks and seems like an amazing game. I have started to anticipate it.:piss Continental Yurop :piss2
I don't know if this has been mentioned or done in other places, but Sony paid an sponsored Trending Topic #PS4 in Twitter today, at least in Spain. They're truly in panic...
Guys I don't know if this has been posted here but Microsoft is planning a big event to unveil durango. They must be panicking.
This is pointless though, I don't know why they're doing it. Let the Xbox have its moment.
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:heh
ugh, so dishonorable.
Let the xbox have its moment.
ugh, so dishonorable.
Let the xbox have its moment.
These people will be voting citizens soon Don.
Maybe now we can get to talk about the only next gen console that will matter worldwide.
Microsoft does have those "15 exclusives," and with expectations are nonexistent at this point, it'll be the spark needed to reinvigorate the defeated fans.
Let's not kid ourselves. The anti-used game thing is going to be industry standard next gen. Sony saying it's up to the publisher is basically the same as some fucked up Hostel-style rapehouse owner saying they have no control over what happens to that girl tied up downstairs after dropping off a bunch of recently paroled rapists.
Let me try to ask you a different question... do you think this (getting a slice of the used game pie) is something that publishers DON'T WANT? Do you think that if, when presented with an option to do it as part of the start of a next gen, they're really gonna be able to restrain themselves?
Like I said. Let's not kid ourselves. This is coming, and it's coming industry wide.
What does "15 exclusives" even mean?I hope it means they will have 15 games that cannot be found on any other system. Any other use of the word is misleading.
*for six monthsThat was one of the reasons I got Windows 8. The new Kinect has already been announced for PC and I hope some of the XB1 exclusives will make it over too.
I think the same dude who said it'd be $300 w/sub, $500 w/o was incorrect about other rumors. Higher than $500 would be crazy, though.
PS4 gives the potential that some publishers won't bother with activation checks/DRM servers. The big ones (EA, Activision, Ubi) will probably do it, but smaller or friendlier devs won't.
That's far better than X1 where apparently your system is a brick after 24 hours offline.
It's nice to have dreams.(http://avatars.alphacoders.com/images/113/11377.jpg)
It's nice to have dreams.
I think the Xbone is gonna be hella expensive, just look at the size of the fucking thing
What does "15 exclusives" even mean?I hope it means they will have 15 games that cannot be found on any other system. Any other use of the word is misleading.
That was probably filmed for something else that was cancelled.
"Yeah, but we thought we'd just have him read a shitty and confusing bedtime story or something."
I have no idea why there are these random games like Destiny that 'gamers' keep getting hyped for.WTF are you talking about? Destiny is no random game. It's the next new ip from a well respected developer and they talk about all these big ideas they have with it. If you have no idea why people would be hyped for it then....
It looks generic. My dislike towards anything 'space wars' related plays part of it I must add.
It looks generic. My dislike towards anything 'space wars' related plays part of it I must add.
It's a pretty decent concept. Essentially a Diablo style game set in a sci-fi setting and an FPS. Dungeons, loot, raids, etc etc.
Im just tired of space games sci-fi games space shooters etc
I dont like seeing games like that being one of the most anticipated sort of games. I want to see a shift from FPS and TPS to more adventure and exploration. A shift from shooters and violence and constant combat toward clever and original games. Destiny sounds like a boring as fuck game.
It looks generic. My dislike towards anything 'space wars' related plays part of it I must add.
It's a pretty decent concept. Essentially a Diablo style game set in a sci-fi setting and an FPS. Dungeons, loot, raids, etc etc.
Hellgate: London was poised to capitalize on this concept several years ago. There are people who STILL feel burned on that.
It looks generic. My dislike towards anything 'space wars' related plays part of it I must add.
It's a pretty decent concept. Essentially a Diablo style game set in a sci-fi setting and an FPS. Dungeons, loot, raids, etc etc.
Hellgate: London was poised to capitalize on this concept several years ago. There are people who STILL feel burned on that.
There were two types of multiplayer accounts: free and subscription accounts. Subscribers had access to ongoing content updates.
The US subscription plan cost $9.95 (USD) a month and an offer to pay a one-time fee of $149.99 for a lifetime subscription was available for up to 100,000 people who pre-ordered the game and ended on January 31, 2008.[12] The UK subscription is £6.99 and EU subscription is €9.99.[13]
Additionally, subscribers would have access to a Hardcore mode, special PvP arenas and a PvP ladder, the ability to bypass server queues, a shared storage space with room for 40 items instead of 20, the ability to create guilds, the ability to achieve officer status in guilds, and 24-hour customer support.[14] Subscribers and non-subscribers were able to interact in all ways in the game. Non-subscribers could join guilds, but not create them.[15] The level cap is set to 50 and up to 24 character slots are available for all players.[16]
They've really embraced Mark Cerny's ideas, hope it works out for them.
Gamers react pretty positively to Steam's perceived generosity, very permissive offline mode, and community involvement. (and Gabe swimming in pools of cash)
Man psn is gonna get all those steam indie games.
Oscar, I think someone said you never have to plug the PS4 into the internet once.
I also don't know what YOPO means :(
You Only Poo Onceanother quality post brought to you by Andrex likes this™
Please give us a white one! Please!
Power slave that is a gfaqs Photoshop. It isn't real.
It felt almost too good, like I was holding something illicit. I was afraid it would be taken away. It felt like the first time I touched a girl’s breast in the backseat of a car with fogged up windows, scared that her parents were going to fling the door open and start yelling at me. I wanted to grab the controller and run. I wanted to nuzzle it against my face and ask it who is a good controller? Who is a good controller?
http://penny-arcade.com/report/article/the-playstation-4-conroller-is-just-slightly-better-than-the-best-thing-eveQuoteIt felt almost too good, like I was holding something illicit. I was afraid it would be taken away. It felt like the first time I touched a girl’s breast in the backseat of a car with fogged up windows, scared that her parents were going to fling the door open and start yelling at me. I wanted to grab the controller and run. I wanted to nuzzle it against my face and ask it who is a good controller? Who is a good controller?
:kobeyuck
So, what have you all preordered in terms of the PS4?I'm waiting for Sony to announce a premium bundle with the camera packed in. With it I'll get Killzone, the free PS+ editon of Driveclub and the Super Stardust sequel.
nothing, only a fool buys hardware at launchToys are most fun when they're new and missing out on great games just to save a few bucks doesn't seem like a great idea to me. The graphics won't be as impressive a few years down the line and the multiplayer modes of the launch games will already be dead. Sure, if the launch line-up doesn't fit your taste then it makes sense to wait. Waiting for years to save $50-100 when the interesting games are already out makes less sense.
nothing, only a fool buys hardware at launch
It's been one week since PS4/Xbox One preorders have gone up, so I checked out the Best Sellers top 25 list for video games on Amazon, Gamestop and Best Buy.
And, uh, whoa.
Amazon.com
Here's the top 25 as of 6/17/2013, with PS4 in bold and XB1 in red:
1. PS4 Standard Edition
\2. Xbox One Day One Edition
3. The Last of Us (PS3)
4. PS4 Battlefield Launch Day Edition Bundle
5. PS4 Watch Dogs Launch Day Edition Bundle
6. PSN Card- $20
7. PS4 Launch Day Edition (guaranteed to ship at launch- unavailable since 6/12)
8. PS4 Killzone Launch Day Edition Bundle
9. Dualshock 4 PS4 Controller
10. Animal Crossing (3DS)
11. PSN Card- $50
12. Watch Dogs (PS4)
13. Xbox Live Gold (1 yr)
14. Xbox 1600 Points Card
15. Battlefield 4 (PS4)
16. The Maw (PC)
17. Xbox Live Gold (3 Mo)
18. Destiny (PS4)
19. Call of Duty Black Ops 2 (360)
20. Minecraft (360)
21. Killzone Shadow Fall (PS4)
22. Playstation Camera (PS4)
23. The Curse of Nordic Cove (PC)
24. Xbox One Controller
25. Forza 5 (XB1)
PS4: 9 in top 25 (7 in the top 10), XB1: 3 in top 25 (1 in top 10). Note that the XB1 does not have any bundles available via Amazon. All PS4 game bundles are "launch day" bundles however.
Current top 25: http://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames/ref=vg_homepage_quicklinks_bestsellers?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-leftnav&pf_rd_r=A5DD2BDC93B14B419E45&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1567748922&pf_rd_i=468642 (http://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames/ref=vg_homepage_quicklinks_bestsellers?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-leftnav&pf_rd_r=A5DD2BDC93B14B419E45&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1567748922&pf_rd_i=468642)
Gamestop.com
Here's the top 25 best sellers (note that Gamestop.com does not sell the XB1 or PS4 console without a bundle):
1. PS4 Call of Duty Ghosts Bundle
2. PS4 Battlefield 4 Bundle
3. PS4 Watch Dogs Bundle
4. PS4 Killzone Bundle
5. PS4 Assassins Creed IV Bundle
6. Dualshock 4 PS4 Controller
7. Xbox One Battlefield 4 Bundle
8. Call of Duty Ghosts (360)
9. Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 Remix (PS3)
10. PS4 Madden Bundle
11. Call of Duty Ghosts (PS3)
12. Call of Duty Ghosts (XB1)
13. Xbox One Ryse Bundle
14. Final Fantasy XIV (PS3)
15. Call of Duty Ghosts (PS4)
16. Xbox One Dead Rising 3 Bundle
17. Xbox One Controller
18. Disney Infinity Power Disc Pack
19. PS4 EA Sports Mega Bundle (FIFA, Madden, NBA)
20. Playstation Camera (PS4)
21. Xbox One Forza 5 Bundle
22. Batman Arkham Origins (360)
23. Watch Dogs (PS4)
24. Batman Arkham Origins (PS3)
25. Battlefield 4 (PS4)
PS4: 11 in top 25 (7 of which are in the top 10), XB1: 6 in top 25 (1 in the top 10).
Current top 25: http://www.gamestop.com/browse?nav=28-xu0,135 (http://www.gamestop.com/browse?nav=28-xu0,135)
Bestbuy.com
It doesn't seem like Best Buy is a hot place to preorder items based on the top 25 being nearly empty of PS4/XB1 content. Looks like just the consoles made it:
1. The Last of Us (PS3)
2. Animal Crossing (3DS)
3. PS4 Console
4. PSN Card ($20)
5. Xbox 360 Controller
6. Turtle Beach Headset (360)
7. Nintendo 3DS XL
8. XBL 1600 Points Card
9. PS3 Bundle w/Uncharted 3
10. Xbox One Day One Edition Console
The next fifteen (as of this post) are not PS4/XB1 items. Current list: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olstemplatemapper.jsp?id=pcat17080&type=page&st=Fast3sku18&sc=gameToySP&nrp=15&sp=-bestsellingsort+skuid&qp=cabcat0700000%23%230%23%237dw~~q4661737433736b753138~~nf1137||4265737420427579204974656d73&usc=abcat0700000&fs=&gf=y&cp=2 (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olstemplatemapper.jsp?id=pcat17080&type=page&st=Fast3sku18&sc=gameToySP&nrp=15&sp=-bestsellingsort+skuid&qp=cabcat0700000%23%230%23%237dw~~q4661737433736b753138~~nf1137||4265737420427579204974656d73&usc=abcat0700000&fs=&gf=y&cp=2)
So yeah, there's the preorder tally so far for the top three major videogame retailers here in NA. It doesn't necessarily provide hard data, but I don't think anyone could have predicted how one sided these charts seem to be so far. Should be interesting to see how they shift as we head to the launch.
edit: new additions-
Shopto (Top 10) (http://"http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=64258256&postcount=71")
Finnish Retailers (http://"http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=64289061&postcount=184")
Amazon UK
1. The Last of Us (PS3)
2. PS4 Console
3. Animal Crossing
4. Xbox One Day One Edition
5. Watch Dogs (PS4)
6. The Sims 3: Island Paradise (PC)
7. 3DS Adapter
8. Minecraft (360)
9. Xbox Live (1 yr)
10. Super Mario Bros 2 (3DS)
11. Dualshock 4 (PS4)
12. Killzone Shadow Fall (PS4)
13. Luigis Mansion (3DS)
14. Battlefield 4 (PS4)
15. Pikmin 3 (Wii U)
16. Call of Duty Ghosts (PS4)
17. Xbox One Standard Console
18. Tomb Raider (PS3)
19. Xbox Live 2100 Points
20. FIFA (PS4)
21. Total Rome II (PC)
22. Destiny (PS4)
23. GTA V (PS3)
24. GTA V (360)
25. Company of Heroes 2 (PC)
PS4: 8 in top 25, XB1: 2 in top 25.
Current list: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=sv_vg_h__7#2 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=sv_vg_h__7#2)
13. Xbox One Ryse Bundle
I'm not sure which is less newsworthy, Amazon rankings or GDEX
I'm mostly pre-ordering because I need one for FFXV anyways, and if that's in 2014, better to get one asap than wait during back order season. I know my ps4 won't be much use for about a year and I'm accepting that fact. But I know it'll have games I want to get so I don't mind as much.
wow, amazon pre-order sales rankings
let me just open my ol' spreadsheet and add these in
What ps4 bundle does Van Cruncheon have pre-ordered ???
My want for a new console is fueled by my lack of any console purchase this gen plus its fucking playstation 4. I expect greatness. Really want to be able to say I bought it day 1.
Yeah, definitely something to tell the grandkids about. Should also help fill out your obit.
wow, amazon pre-order sales rankings
let me just open my ol' spreadsheet and add these in
You're getting so much mileage out of that excel sheet saying
When it comes to the tricky issue of control and response, Killzone: Shadow Fall currently delivers a largely 25-30FPS experience with v-sync engaged, where a long overview of the forest tests the hardware most. A strong trace of input lag is felt when turning the analogue sticks - a quirk that hangs over from the Killzone 2 days. It's a delay in response that is impossible to ignore after playing snappier low-latency shooters, and at the default 50 per cent sensitivity for the X and Y axis proved tricky to adapt to. Migrating to the new and more shooter-friendly Dual Shock 4 controller isn't the cause here, as this is the only game we test with such problems. Rather, the issue is likely to be the result of latency being built up over the course of a long and complex rendering pipeline.
So PS4 launch exclusives.
Knack - Looks like a Crash Bandicoot sort of game
PS4 Won't Support Analog-AV Output, HDMI Only (http://www.denofgeek.us/games/playstation-4/137817/sony-says-ps4-wont-support-analog-av-output-hdmi-only)
PS4 Won't Support Analog-AV Output, HDMI Only (http://www.denofgeek.us/games/playstation-4/137817/sony-says-ps4-wont-support-analog-av-output-hdmi-only)
If you want to record video output on ps4 or x1 you need to get an HDMI to analog downconverter or find an HDCP stripper box.
Now instead of worrying about those people complaining, they can just not make a sale to them at all. PHEW.
Gamestop now taking "unlimited" pre-orders:Hah no guarantees of having your machine at launch or anytime soon after I'd wager.
http://www.gametrailers.com/side-mission/55039/sony-to-gamestop-the-flood-gates-are-open-for-ps4-system-reserves
Let me get one thing out of the way: I played this game at E3 and had a couple of great chats with Rushy and some of his developer colleagues on location. They explained many features and talked about Evolution Studios' vision on racing development. No Doritos or Mountain Dew were involved :))
It sure does look, feel and play a lot like PGR, while maintaining its own identity. The set-up is great: not just the way you can join clubs (max. 12 people each), but also how events work. Aside from racing for positions, you can score a lot of points at certain points on the track, like achieving a high average speed, taking the best line through a set of corners perfectly or achieving a high drift score. The system for this can be compared somewhat to PGR's Kudos, except it constantly gives you a target in the form of a friends'/rival's score to beat. The best thing about this is that you can contribute to your (team) score even when in last position, but simply driving with style! Sounds familiar?
The demo track was a circular route consisting of actual roads in Scotland, connected in a triangle shape, forming an all-round track with long straights, a hairpin, some fast combinations, a chicane and two devilishly hard to judge final corners. The selection of cars ranged from an Audi R8 and a Pagani Huayra to a McLaren MP4-12C and a Hennessey Venom GT. It's not really hard to get a feeling for the handling, though you do need to focus to really get it right. Estimate braking for the next corner, turn in and the right time and time the throttle input to either stick the tail out or dash off cleanly. There's great force and visual feedback (noticeable by the lack of sound in the noisy demo room) to get a feel for your car, such as the way the camera gets a bit closer to the action when braking (like your head would in a real car) :D
It's an arcade racer in the same way PGR is - easy to pick up, but to get the best out lap times you'll have to respect the realistic core of the driving physics and each car. For instance the McLaren allowed for much higher cornering speeds than the Hennessey, which was in turn a lot faster in a straight line. One point of criticism, though: the crashes appeared to be a bit samey - whether I came at a wall with 80 or 150 mph, full frontal or from a three-quarter angle, all seemed to result in the same spin.
Still, the demo I played gave me a taste of something I would buy a next-gen console for: an accessible yet challenging arcade racer with an emphasis on stylish driving and multiplayer, while showing off killer looks - high-polygon cars, truly realistic lighting. I went over to a GT6 pod later that day and it just didn't feel as convincing in terms of looks. Sure there's the difference of generations, but it just goes to show what a strong sensation Driveclub delivers.
I want this game in my life, now.
He continued: "The overall feel - that filmic experience... the one thing we brought to this is something people are accustomed too but usually can't tell. When you watch a movie you don't question what lens is being used. You don't question why there is grain on the film or why there's a certain lighting. Those are things we've been accustomed to seeing for 30 years. So when it's missing we usually go 'Wait, something is wrong with this image'.http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-06-25-ps4-exclusive-the-order-1886-is-a-linear-third-person-action-adventure-with-shooting-mechanics
"With this game we replicated a lot of physical attributes. We have true lens distortion. We built physical lenses into our engine so we could get something where people will look it and not be totally disconnected. Games have a tendency sometimes to be too clean and crisp. We thrive in the dirt. We just love the fact that it feels dirty. It's filmed in a very realistic way."
Apparently one of the reasons Ready at Dawn chose London as the setting for the game is because the city can be pretty filthy.
that shit is so fucking stupid :dead
It would definitely explain why the game's graphics are so distinguished mentally-challenged good
it's been GoKiburi for fucking years on 2ch. And Ashcraft isn't quite right, either -- the name has more of a heritage to the fact that Sony fanboys on 2ch come out of nowhere, wreck shit up on random threads, then leave the instant it hit 0AM (when 2ch IDs reset). "They come out of nowhere, just like roaches!"
The best part about this naming is that the supposedly impartial gaming blogs (esuteru/hachima, jin115, etc) have been notorious for renaming all mentions of "gokiburi" with "GK" when they pulled 2ch posts w/o permission. Use of gokiburi got much more prevalent as this came to light, as clearly someone didn't like the term.
Xbox users were called "chikan" (rapists) because one of the tv shows ran a clip asking a guy what they were in line for the day of release, and they were getting "Saishyu Chikan Densha" which was coming out the same day. If I remember the story correctly they weren't even getting a Xbox. Nintendo folks are frequently referred to as Ninshin (pregnant) because they're NINtendo SHINja (nintendo zealots).
A couple years ago, out of nowhere folks started to group the two together, calling them "Chikanishi." It's frequently thought that it's the gaming blog owners themselves that spread this, because while 2ch users were like "???" the game blogs IMMEDIATELY picked it up. There were doubts of those blogs posting inflammatory threads for cultivation before, this pretty much cemented it (and this was before the big expose they got as a result of pissing off too many 2ch'ers). The term got pretty commonplace over the course of a year or so.
Around Jan 2012, Esuteru/Hachima barked up the wrong tree one day, and several subforums did a full-on internet investigation of his identity out of spite. His real name was dug up, yearbook photos from former classmates, and it was revealed that the site was run under an internet marketing firm whose CEO was his father. The characters of his dad's name could be read as "nishi," (it's actually said a little differently) and the character for "parent" can be read as "chika." Following that, anytime the usual inflammatory thread popped up making fun of "chikanishi," threads immediately filled with responses to the likeness of "oh, you mean Hachima's dad?" The term quickly disappeared off the face of 2ch, and even more quickly off the "Japanese gaming blogs."
Originally Posted by muuQuoteit's been GoKiburi for fucking years on 2ch. And Ashcraft isn't quite right, either -- the name has more of a heritage to the fact that Sony fanboys on 2ch come out of nowhere, wreck shit up on random threads, then leave the instant it hit 0AM (when 2ch IDs reset). "They come out of nowhere, just like roaches!"
The best part about this naming is that the supposedly impartial gaming blogs (esuteru/hachima, jin115, etc) have been notorious for renaming all mentions of "gokiburi" with "GK" when they pulled 2ch posts w/o permission. Use of gokiburi got much more prevalent as this came to light, as clearly someone didn't like the term.QuoteXbox users were called "chikan" (rapists) because one of the tv shows ran a clip asking a guy what they were in line for the day of release, and they were getting "Saishyu Chikan Densha" which was coming out the same day. If I remember the story correctly they weren't even getting a Xbox. Nintendo folks are frequently referred to as Ninshin (pregnant) because they're NINtendo SHINja (nintendo zealots).
A couple years ago, out of nowhere folks started to group the two together, calling them "Chikanishi." It's frequently thought that it's the gaming blog owners themselves that spread this, because while 2ch users were like "???" the game blogs IMMEDIATELY picked it up. There were doubts of those blogs posting inflammatory threads for cultivation before, this pretty much cemented it (and this was before the big expose they got as a result of pissing off too many 2ch'ers). The term got pretty commonplace over the course of a year or so.
Around Jan 2012, Esuteru/Hachima barked up the wrong tree one day, and several subforums did a full-on internet investigation of his identity out of spite. His real name was dug up, yearbook photos from former classmates, and it was revealed that the site was run under an internet marketing firm whose CEO was his father. The characters of his dad's name could be read as "nishi," (it's actually said a little differently) and the character for "parent" can be read as "chika." Following that, anytime the usual inflammatory thread popped up making fun of "chikanishi," threads immediately filled with responses to the likeness of "oh, you mean Hachima's dad?" The term quickly disappeared off the face of 2ch, and even more quickly off the "Japanese gaming blogs."
My PS4 hype is dying down. Will prob. cancel the preorder. :(
It's the PS3 all over againMy PS4 hype is dying down. Will prob. cancel the preorder. :(
wait for gamescom and tgs.
What has changed since you pre-ordered it?Mostly time passing from the E3 hype train. And none of the launch games look worth it to me right now, although that might change.
What has changed since you pre-ordered it?
PlayStation 4 reserves 3.5GB of its 8GB GDDR5 memory for the operating system, leaving 4.5GB of space for game code, according to current PlayStation 4 documentation shown to Digital Foundry by a well-placed development source. However, further sources suggest that an additional 1GB of "flexible memory" may be reclaimed from the OS reservation, based on availability.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-ps3-system-software-memory
Reserving ram for OS is smart. They can trim it later.Sure, but there is no reason to go overboard. It's primarily a game console and other features like Netflix streaming will manage with a small amount of reserved memory.
Reserving ram for OS is smart. They can trim it later.Please tweet Yoshida.
Because XMB is a genius system and design. What they are preparing for PS4 is tiled dog shit.XMB was nice back in 2007. Now it's a bloated mess. The new OS design will be fine as long as it's fast and responsive.
You mean Jonathan Blow.Reserving ram for OS is smart. They can trim it later.Please tweet Yoshida.
Reserving ram for OS is smart. They can trim it later.Sure, but there is no reason to go overboard. It's primarily a game console and other features like Netflix streaming will manage with a small amount of reserved memory.
Seems like they're hedging their bets in case Xbox One's HDMI input overlay/multitasking features take off. A few years later they'll probably relax the RAM limits when it turns out to be unnecessary.(http://images.vg247.com/current//2013/06/The-Witness-tweets.png)
Either way do devs need more than 3.5-4GB RAM total to run PS4 games at 1080p?
Either way do devs need more than 3.5-4GB RAM total to run PS4 games at 1080p?The launch games will do fine, but as the next generation drags on every resource is going to get tapped out. The PS2 could do 1080i graphics with 32+4 MB of memory.
Should they even call it PS4 anymore?
But theres is no need for spin since its still eons ahead of the xbonehttp://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=73020151&postcount=2708
Seeing Sony fans backpedal is pretty funny.
Should they even call it PS4 anymore?Playstation 3.5 :-[
I wouldn't want to be maxy's underroos todayMy standpoint is the same,xbone :yuck :yuck
Should they even call it PS4 anymore?Playstation 3.5 :-[
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=73060686&postcount=4337
Welp
As for the Apocalypse-GAF: continue ignoring Verrendus, famourmortimer, I, and Bruceleeroy. I'm out ya'll :).
That's really weird considering that the original design only had 4 GB of memory in total. Why would they need 3.5 GB for the OS? The XMB is using less than 100 MB on the PS3.
Because XMB is a genius system and design. What they are preparing for PS4 is tiled dog shit.
(http://media.tumblr.com/d4a4c6c45126a4fced4ec8c4288aa1a9/tumblr_inline_mk8t67T3z91r4jjpw.png)http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=73088346&postcount=4898
Because XMB is a genius system and design. What they are preparing for PS4 is tiled dog shit.XMB was nice back in 2007. Now it's a bloated mess. The new OS design will be fine as long as it's fast and responsive.
Isn't XMB bloated compared to 360 OS?The download size of the OS doesn't matter to me at all. What's annoying is when they add too many items on the menu so it becomes difficult to navigate. On the 360 you have ads and MS's second-rate services which also makes it bloated.
360's firmware updates are like 20x times smaller
UPDATE: A new source familiar with the matter has provided additional information to Digital Foundry that confirms only 4.5GB of the PS4's 8GB GDDR5 memory pool is guaranteed to game developers right now, while also clarifying how the PS4's "flexible memory" works in practice.
In real terms, an additional 512MB of physical RAM may be available in addition to the 4.5GB mentioned in the SDK. Flexible memory consists of physical and virtual spaces, and the latter introduces paging issues which impact performance. In our original story we combined them together.
For practical game applications, the correct figures for this story, as we understand it now, are a guaranteed 4.5GB for development and a further 512MB from the flexible pool. We have updated the headline accordingly.
Isn't it a little misleading to refer to the OS partition as "reserved by the OS", as if the entire space is taken up by the kernel or something, when the space is really usable by the OS + all apps that are running in that partition?Yes,but explaining that to internet is impossible.
Modern PC games can use that much memory if you turn up the anti-aliasing effects or render the game at a very high resolution. The Vita allows for six applications (including one game) to be open at once and I'm expecting the PS4 to have similar functionality.
Edit: I'm currently using 4.2 GB of memory by just browsing the internet.
Reserving ram for OS is smart. They can trim it later.Sure, but there is no reason to go overboard. It's primarily a game console and other features like Netflix streaming will manage with a small amount of reserved memory.
Chromecast™ supports 1080p Netflix on 256 MB RAM. :rejoice
Reserving ram for OS is smart. They can trim it later.Sure, but there is no reason to go overboard. It's primarily a game console and other features like Netflix streaming will manage with a small amount of reserved memory.
Chromecast™ supports 1080p Netflix on 256 MB RAM. :rejoice
And apparently it runs like crap unless your router is bulletproof.
So will YouTube in your PC browser, no difference.Are you on a wired high-speed connection? I can run YouTube without any stuttering in Windows, OSX, and Ubuntu. Maybe it's a general infrastructure issue in the US.
it's totally a sleazy move. hopefully no one buys into the dumb sony music service and they add mp3 support in. even the Vita has custom mp3 soundtracks for all games. and admittedly I don't know what DLNA is and if it's a software or hardware thing, but these problems, and some of xbox one's, can be fixed through firmware updates. it's easy to forget how busted the PS3 and 360 were at launch.
not supporting remotes is also pretty dumb when there isn't a PS4 replacement. although, supposedly the smartphone app works as a remote and I'm fine with that option.
No DLNA is pretty shitty but the rest seems like small potatoes. The MP3 shit is more mind boggling than anything. Stupid decision.
are they referring to custom soundtracks? if so it was kinda cool for a minute or two on the 360 when it launched and a source of never ending stat thumping for xfegs.....thats about it.I use it all the time when I'm playing certain games. Especially when you're doing something like grinding in an rpg. Sucks that it's gone from both consoles.
are they referring to custom soundtracks? if so it was kinda cool for a minute or two on the 360 when it launched and a source of never ending stat thumping for xfegs.....thats about it.I use it all the time when I'm playing certain games. Especially when you're doing something like grinding in an rpg. Sucks that it's gone from both consoles.
No DLNA is pretty shitty but the rest seems like small potatoes. The MP3 shit is more mind boggling than anything. Stupid decision.
The Digital Living Network Alliance (DLNA) is a non-profit collaborative trade organization established by Sony in June 2003, that is responsible for defining interoperability guidelines to enable sharing of digital media between multimedia devices.
It looks like micro USB cables should work. I just think it's stupid they don't give you one.It is stupid that a charging cable is not supplied with a device which must be charged for use, yes.
You know, Best Buy price matches online stores now.
Have they figured out how this works? Like if I buy more PS4 games will I get more free game coupons?
http://youtu.be/FVzdPh3utcg
Could end up being something else, but signs seem to be pointing towards Capcom announcing Ultra Street Fighter IV "exclusively" for Playstation 4 next week. Exclusive as in not on Xbone. Apparently Sony paid to have Injustice Ultimate Edition ported only to PS4 for next-gen and SF4 may be next.
http://youtu.be/FVzdPh3utcg
:lol I have the exact same table that he knocked over
Could end up being something else, but signs seem to be pointing towards Capcom announcing Ultra Street Fighter IV "exclusively" for Playstation 4 next week. Exclusive as in not on Xbone. Apparently Sony paid to have Injustice Ultimate Edition ported only to PS4 for next-gen and SF4 may be next.
yeah, and I recently learned that Guilty Gear Xrd is for PS3, PS4, and Arcade. Strange since P4A and Blazblue were both on Xbox.
This is way too hilarious
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Borys lives in dirtpoland so he's probably getting his game news by moose telegram. Given that the ps4 is launching in a few days, I expect an update by December.Lyte-san please change thread title to ps4 thread. Borys thread titles make no sense or are outdated.
:snoop
I'm not online 24/7 like you no life losers.
Borys lives in dirtpoland so he's probably getting his game news by moose telegram. Given that the ps4 is launching in a few days, I expect an update by December.Lyte-san please change thread title to ps4 thread. Borys thread titles make no sense or are outdated.
:snoop
I'm not online 24/7 like you no life losers.
This is way too hilarious
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Is that a fucking mic? wtf is that?It's a headset. Mono sound AND mono hardware.
Provided they work.Is that a fucking mic? wtf is that?It's a headset. Mono sound AND mono hardware.
Good bye manuals.
Manuals are a waste of paper.
Manuals are a waste of paper.
And discs/casings are a waste of plastic. What's your point?
Manuals are a waste of paper.
And discs/casings are a waste of plastic. What's your point?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuSW2rOQGw4Man, the way the console sits uneven when you lay it flat :kobeyuck it's like a table with a broken leg :lol
Battlefield 4 sold out on the B2G1 from Amazon. It was gonna be my free game (getting NFS & NBA for sure) since I don't play Battlefield and I'm sure Killzone will be good enough for my FPS SP & MP needs. Was just gonna get it as a graphical showpiece.
So I had to pick something else and it was between Injustice or Lego Marvel and I went with Lego Marvel because I remember some people on here talking about how fun it is. I've never played a Lego game before, what's it like? I know it's free but still feeling some buyer's regret over free game for some reason lol
Man, the way the console sits uneven when you lay it flat :kobeyuck it's like a table with a broken leg :lol
I watched that part again to see what you were talking about, and what are you talking about?if you go to about 15 minutes in, you'll see what I'm talking about. When he pushes on the back corner, the opposite corner raises like a quarter-inch. Not a big deal, it's just amusing is all.
just curious: who here is actually buying a PS4 on friday?
I watched that part again to see what you were talking about, and what are you talking about?if you go to about 15 minutes in, you'll see what I'm talking about. When he pushes on the back corner, the opposite corner raises like a quarter-inch. Not a big deal, it's just amusing is all.
just curious: who here is actually buying a PS4 on friday?
The studio is getting one on Friday, and I think my boss is buying one. I can't justify $400 though, I'm poor and shit (and need to finish reading a really cool book on the KLF)
The studio is getting one on Friday, and I think my boss is buying one. I can't justify $400 though, I'm poor and shit (and need to finish reading a really cool book on the KLF)
The studio is getting one on Friday, and I think my boss is buying one. I can't justify $400 though, I'm poor and shit (and need to finish reading a really cool book on the KLF)
Sony isnt licking your balls because of Galak Z?
The studio is getting one on Friday, and I think my boss is buying one. I can't justify $400 though, I'm poor and shit (and need to finish reading a really cool book on the KLF)
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The studio is getting one on Friday, and I think my boss is buying one. I can't justify $400 though, I'm poor and shit (and need to finish reading a really cool book on the KLF)
Free Unity Pro with ID@Xbox and every Xbox One is a dev kit.
Please contact Chris Charla on Twitter: https://twitter.com/iocat
yes, it is. now what's your problem?
Get this talk out of the superior PS4 thread
Here, make a few hundred posts on this gif instead
(http://i.minus.com/iYj0EJfDdruQy.gif)
Get this talk out of the superior PS4 thread
Here, make a few hundred posts on this gif instead
(http://i.minus.com/iYj0EJfDdruQy.gif)
Might be smart to upgrade the drive.
(http://i.imgur.com/awraa1U.jpg)
I know people were saying they really like the dual shock 4 but seeing Jeff Gerstmann causally drop "I'd rather play the game on a Dual Shock 4" (http://www.giantbomb.com/articles/a-few-last-minute-bits-of-playstation-4-info/1100-4785/) over other controllers in an article is just weird. Such a change from last gen
Personally I've always been bicontroller :-*
Included Double Fine game? :rofl :rofl :rofl
The only way they'll sell a game.
Link?
Every PS4 comes with Playroom; its the double fine developed tech demo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvpCdtjTrAo
Included Double Fine game? :rofl :rofl :rofl
The only way they'll sell a game.
Link?
Hopefully you can delete it to make room for a real game
What is the funny kagari quote, gaf is down
People complaining about the wobble, all she can do is reply with.
"Are you an engineer?"
edit.
Originally Posted by shinobi602
Nope, but I expect quality from expensive electronics I buy. What happened to quality control? Poof?
Are you an engineer?
(http://i.imgur.com/Aj5CfiH.jpg)
You still have to SYNC TROPHIES?
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
You still have to SYNC TROPHIES?
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
if its like Vita then its a massive improvement
i don't think i ever synced trophies on the ps3, maybe if they made you do it the first timethe reason I can actually sit down and beat games on my ps3 is because I don't give a fuck about trophies
fuck trophies, i want the option to remove them entirely
You still have to SYNC TROPHIES?
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
if its like Vita then its a massive improvement
How does vita sync trophies?
You still have to SYNC TROPHIES?
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
if its like Vita then its a massive improvement
How does vita sync trophies?
The reason I got rid of my PS3 was for shit like this. Forcing me to make several updates to a game when I want to play it, which could take an hour at times, a weird UI (wanna play a movie off a thumb drive? MAKE SURE YOU PRESS TRIANGLE INSTEAD OF X). Individually, its not a big deal, but XMB just had so many fucking annoying traits to it. Playing a game was just so much easier on 360.
I really hope that doesn't happen again.
it's always annoying when I launch a game and get booted from xbl for a new update.
Dualshock 4 issues already cropping up have me kinda concerned.what issues?
Interesting. Killzone and AC4 have "Remote Play" as a thing on the back of the box. Knack does not.
Dualshock 4 issues already cropping up have me kinda concerned.
Boyes: I think a lot—we get a ton of requests for Yakuza, a ton of requests for Shenmue. We see the lists. Like everything that people have tweeted Gio, literally we have a person that compiles those lists and prioritizes based on how many requests we've gotten. And I think to date there's well over 10,000 mentions across like forum threads and stuff like that. So those are the ones we're focused on.
I saw that photo of the worn thumb sticks a few days ago. IIRC the great detectives of Reddit concluded that he had used sand paper to wear them down like that. I'm inclined to believe it since there are scratch marks all over the sticks and all of the particles on the rest of the controller.Hopefully it's not a problem... this dude's got some rubber weirdness cropping up too: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=89584486&postcount=889
So you guys don't hook up the controller to the USB cable after you finish playing?Word. Shit reminds me of people complaining about their battery being dead when they never charge their phones.
Charge your fucking phones, dumbasses.
I changed my mind about the UI with those new videos, looks pretty slick.
Holy shit, they closed the 720p PS4 threadDid they take Mark Rubin's tweet and use that as a "well we're done here" way to close the thread?
:rofl
Downloading a game from the PlayStation Store was also an interesting experience. We opted for Battlefield 4 - a massive 35GB. The PS4 would allow us to install and play the game with just 6288MB piped down from the internet, the net result being that this was the complete single-player campaign. To get online and play multiplayer, you need for the rest of the game to wind its way down the pipe. This isn't quite the seamless PlayGo experience we were hoping for, but it's better than nothing.
Moving onto the disc side of things, Call of Duty: Ghosts can be inserted and played just like any normal game - and you can play immediately while the code spools off 32GB of data onto the hardware as you play. We didn't have time to conduct an in-depth like-for-like performance analysis here, but gameplay seemed unaffected, with the only noticeable difference being longer level loading times before the game had fully cached - the first level, for example, loads 16 seconds faster than playing the game from scratch.
Key features could be investigated briefly though. The PlayStation Store, visually, has much in common with the latest PS3 design, but while it still feels rather clunky and slow to respond in many ways, it is a marked improvement over the current-gen version. :-\
On start-up, the hardware is exceptionally quiet, but as you progress into gameplay, volume and heat does start to increase. PS4 also draws a fair amount of juice too - 80W at idle on the front-end menus (the "PlayStation Dynamic Menu" to give it its proper name), 95W based on in-game video playback, and around 110-120W during gameplay - that's about 10-20W more than the first release of the "Slim" PlayStation 3. Curiously though, bringing up the menu system while in-game sees another leap in power draw - up to the maximum of 140W.
Digital titles are just in an horizontal list
:goty
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=715057 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=715057)
:drudge :drudge :drudge :drudge :drudge :drudge :drudge
http://www.twitch.tv/jed05
Guy is currently streaming from the PS4
EDIT2: Sony is refusing support since console hasn't launched.
If DJ Coolio made his return I wonder what console he'd shill for
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-11-13-day-one-patch-makes-call-of-duty-ghosts-single-player-1080p-on-ps4 (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-11-13-day-one-patch-makes-call-of-duty-ghosts-single-player-1080p-on-ps4)
:rofl
The idea that Ghosts really wasn't running at 1080p on PS4 is something I just find hilarious, and I don't even know who is most deserving of being laughed at.
Why do people give a shit about COD: Ghosts resolution, a game that is touted as the worst CoD? Whether it's 720 or 1080, it's still Ghosts.
Why do people give a shit about COD: Ghosts resolution, a game that is touted as the worst CoD? Whether it's 720 or 1080, it's still Ghosts.
Why do people give a shit about COD: Ghosts resolution, a game that is touted as the worst CoD? Whether it's 720 or 1080, it's still Ghosts.
Why do people give a shit about COD: Ghosts resolution, a game that is touted as the worst CoD? Whether it's 720 or 1080, it's still Ghosts.
you're bringing pragmatics into a console war?
Why do people give a shit about COD: Ghosts resolution, a game that is touted as the worst CoD? Whether it's 720 or 1080, it's still Ghosts.
People who give a shit about CoD shouldn't be taken seriously. Can't wait till a new shitty game becomes the big series.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmmhRZTRo8cspoiler (click to show/hide)Picture frame on desk. :lol[close]
Please tell me nobody really has a framed photo of Don Mattrick on their work desk.I do. Dude did a lot for the industry. Pay your respect.
Please tell me nobody really has a framed photo of Don Mattrick on their work desk.
Shenmue 3 will never happen.
Agreed. :mynicca
Then again I'd still like an ending.
Is everyone hyped for the shocking PS4 announcement tomorrow on SpikeTV?
SHENMUE III
SHENMUE III
iOS exclusive
"Yeah, it's disappointing to see some of the low scores," Yoshida told GamesIndustry.biz. "I haven't spent enough time reading reviews, but I would characterize them as mixed."
"And with this launch there are lots of games coming out, so the media must be very busy going through the games quickly," he continued, "and especially since the online functionality wasn't ready until in the last couple days. So we have to look at how much time they spend on what aspect of the games and how that may be contributing to some of the lower scores. It's disappointing but I don't think it's worrisome for the launch of the system.
"I've played through all of our games, Killzone, Knack and Resogun, and I totally enjoyed playing through these games. I'm now on my second run of Knack and Resogun at a higher difficulty - these games really grow on you when you play more. I'm very confident that once you purchase these games and play, you'll be happy that you've done so."
(http://puu.sh/5i7Yi/3361c831a6.png)
@yosp @ign It is only small compared to shipped because it is before launch day. However it is large compared to pre-launch users #PS4fail
@HolaKyle @IGN no, compared to shipped pre-launch units
I can't comment on failure rates, because it's just not something - it's a moving target. What this consumer should worry about is the way that we've treated him. Y'know, things break, and if we've treated him well and fixed his problem, that's something that we're focused on right now. I'm not going to comment on individual failure rates because I'm shipping in 36 countries and it's a complex business.
Methodis looks like the dude from Infamous.soby till I die
Even dresses like him.
Methodis looks like the dude from Infamous.soby till I die
Even dresses like him.
And now we get a whole bunch of people pretending to care about Tales.
Bamco really has this nailed down.
And now we get a whole bunch of people pretending to care about Tales.
Bamco really has this nailed down.
And now we get a whole bunch of people pretending to care about Tales.
Bamco really has this nailed down.
Pfftt... people only becoming interested in a franchise when it comes exclusively to a platform they care about. It's the fucking worst, isn't it Andy?
Yeah, I don't understand his post since Tales has a long history of being on Sony platforms already. Its fanbase is already based on the ps3. So I don't know why he thought it was clever.
And now we get a whole bunch of people pretending to care about Tales.
Bamco really has this nailed down.
Pfftt... people only becoming interested in a franchise when it comes exclusively to a platform they care about. It's the fucking worst, isn't it Andy?
:comeon
:sabu
I was more getting at those that champion it on message boards but never actually end up buying it. How much did Graces F sell in the west?
We have our PS4 at work....woooo and stuff
We have our PS4 at work....woooo and stuff
Sell it and buy multiple copies of your game, bro
and here i thought Tales would never be relevant because its a JRPG for animu loving dustheads
:neogafand here i thought Tales would never be relevant because its a JRPG for animu loving dustheads
Says the person hyped for Killzone...
Methodis looks like the dude from Infamous.soby till I die
Even dresses like him.
I'll make this
(http://i.imgur.com/KcXyMpi.png)
Have Man U's colors and logo on it. It'll be an avatar for you if you want. :heart
I wonder how accurate Seattle is in Infamous. What happens if you walk by some dumpsters?
I wonder how accurate Seattle is in Infamous. What happens if you walk by some dumpsters?
Destiny looks like a PS3 game...
Destiny looks like a PS3 game...
WOW
WOW
All that Banderas hype
FOR THAT
Sooo.... what exactly was that thing for MGSV?
Sooo.... what exactly was that thing for MGSV?
JOEY SCARES ME
So, the take away from this is "Hope you like Western games, cause Japan is still working on the PS3!"More like Japan is on mobile.
JOEY DID BANDERAS.
HE'S A GAFFER
There will be a thread later.
Anything worth my time happen?
Anything worth my time happen?
Anything worth my time happen?
There will be a thread later.
Too busy playing actual games on my last gen system to give a fuck.
There will be a thread later.
Too busy playing actual games on my last gen system to give a fuck.
I'm going to play GTAV and some Guacamelee. What are you going to play on YOUR actual system with ACTUAL software?
What's this about U4 for PS4? Was there a trailer?
What's this about U4 for PS4? Was there a trailer?
GTAV > next gen
wait
wait
it's no longer "next gen", guys. It's current gen. :tocry
We need to say farewell to the current gen by PLAYING GAMES.
So, the take away from this is "Hope you like Western games, cause Japan is still working on the PS3!"
Anything worth my time happen?
We witnessed Banderas.gif jump the shark.
GTAV > next gen
wait
wait
it's no longer "next gen", guys. It's current gen. :tocry
We need to say farewell to the current gen by PLAYING GAMES.
the best looking PS4 launch day release:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ehk2eSli_8
Anything worth my time happen?
Shenmue 3 was announced and canceled in the span of an hour
Fucking hell, you guys need to change avatars. I keep mistaking Momo for Himu and Himu for Momo.:jawalrus
Lol, that due is gonna get beaten and raped when he leaves.AND he gets a PS4? Lucky guy.
http://www.p4rgaming.com/exclusive-interview-first-playstation-4-owner-joey-says-life-still-unfulfilled/EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH RANDOM PLAYSTATION OWNER
Lol, that due is gonna get beaten and raped when he leaves.edit: x rebirth is on the ps4? fuck. fuckity fuck.
I'm excited about 32 bits Snake! haters can get an air ticket and come suck on this dick! :pacspit
It said ps4 release! :-\Lol, that due is gonna get beaten and raped when he leaves.edit: x rebirth is on the ps4? fuck. fuckity fuck.
read that sentence again.
is there a video of the banderas .gif jumping the shark?
(http://i.imgur.com/uujScOM.gif)
:kobeyuck
(http://avatars.alphacoders.com/images/113/11377.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/uujScOM.gif)(http://i.minus.com/i67pE7YW7egog.gif)
:kobeyuck
Well, the PS4 firmware update was super fast, but I just get ''please wait'' when trying to sign into PSN. Been like 20 minutes now.
It said ps4 release! :-\Lol, that due is gonna get beaten and raped when he leaves.edit: x rebirth is on the ps4? fuck. fuckity fuck.
read that sentence again.
edit: well I can go back to not caring too much again.is there a video of the banderas .gif jumping the shark?
...(http://i.imgur.com/uujScOM.gif)
:kobeyuck
kill me now please. embarrassment by proxy.
HealthcarePSN.gov
There is nothing great about this.Both bricks are definition of mediocrity.(http://avatars.alphacoders.com/images/113/11377.jpg)
this must be the single greatest day of the last year for you.
one day a company will release an online centric product that will work at launch
There is nothing great about this.Both bricks are definition of mediocrity.(http://avatars.alphacoders.com/images/113/11377.jpg)
this must be the single greatest day of the last year for you.
Bunch of prettier old rags running at higher framerates,cod with mechs,endless sequels... :yuck
Hype level -1
And here I was thinking "I'll pick it up at midnight and download all the patches and stuff before the servers really get fucked during the day on Friday..."
:lol
omfg it finally connected!
Let's see if Lyte is on psn, shall we? :shaq
I bet Sony made it so that people on ps3 can't see people on ps4.
PSN is now showing as undergoing maintenance. Was able to get Constrast to start downloading.
Messing with remote play right now. Tried Injustice and I'm pretty impressed- it appears as if frames are being skipped (or if a lower framerate is being outputted), but the game is extremely responsive. The remote play screen quality is not as sharp as say, native res, but it looks good overall. I'm more interested in seeing what this is like when playing games online, but that is gonna have to wait until tomorrow, it seems.
Let's see if Lyte is on psn, shall we? :shaq
I bet Sony made it so that people on ps3 can't see people on ps4.
You should be able to see me online. I can see PS3 users.
Let's see if Lyte is on psn, shall we? :shaq
I bet Sony made it so that people on ps3 can't see people on ps4.
You should be able to see me online. I can see PS3 users.
says you were last online 6 days ago?
GTAV > next gen
wait
wait
it's no longer "next gen", guys. It's current gen. :tocry
We need to say farewell to the current gen by PLAYING GAMES.
So, the take away from this is "Hope you like Western games, cause Japan is still working on the PS3!"
Where do I put this.
(http://i.minus.com/iHSh7mHETcUDK.gif)
so has twitch crumbled yet?
Can you arrange your downloaded games into folders or does the main icon row just kieep getting longer?
This is why I don't want a new system. :'(
(http://www.explosm.net/db/files/Comics/Rob/dcw_game.png)
How is the noise level in game?Can you arrange your downloaded games into folders or does the main icon row just kieep getting longer?
I don't think you can, will check. If anyone else has any questions or anything they want me to check out, let me know.
the joke was that he tricked a kid by pretending to be the ps4/xbone delivery man but in reality kidnapped and enslaved him
god himu don't you get EDGY humor
the joke was that he tricked a kid by pretending to be the ps4/xbone delivery man but in reality kidnapped and enslaved him
god himu don't you get EDGY humor
Who asks someone if they're going to give them their game console? Was he waiting for it to arrive from amazon? Why didn't he just go to a store. Now I'm just more confused (ie. Who would find this funny?)
Oh one other thing: is the game installed data the same as the digital version? Like, can I install a disc and buy it digitally without downloading it all over again?
DID YOU TRY TO WOBBLE?
Oh one other thing: is the game installed data the same as the digital version? Like, can I install a disc and buy it digitally without downloading it all over again?
"Sony has released a firmware update for the PlayStation 4 that is required for many features on the console. However, this update also results in stability issues while playing games on the system.
This affects all games on the PS4, including EA titles, causing crashing/freezing and non-responsive connections between the player's console and their TV Screen.
Unfortunately since it's an issue with Sony's firmware, it requires a new update to fix it. Sony is working to resolve the issue as quickly as they can. They will update their System Update page as new versions are made available, and we will keep this page updated as we find out more."
How is the noise level in game?Can you arrange your downloaded games into folders or does the main icon row just kieep getting longer?
I don't think you can, will check. If anyone else has any questions or anything they want me to check out, let me know.
EA helpdesk
https://help.ea.com/article/sony-playstation-4-update-1-5-instabilityQuote"Sony has released a firmware update for the PlayStation 4 that is required for many features on the console. However, this update also results in stability issues while playing games on the system.
This affects all games on the PS4, including EA titles, causing crashing/freezing and non-responsive connections between the player's console and their TV Screen.
Unfortunately since it's an issue with Sony's firmware, it requires a new update to fix it. Sony is working to resolve the issue as quickly as they can. They will update their System Update page as new versions are made available, and we will keep this page updated as we find out more."
Can you arrange your downloaded games into folders or does the main icon row just kieep getting longer?
I'd be surprised if it doesn't allow folders. I have my ps3 set up so that it has folders via system. Nice and clean ui is what I expect, much like xmb.
I'd be surprised if it doesn't allow folders. I have my ps3 set up so that it has folders via system. Nice and clean ui is what I expect, much like xmb.
Great.How is the noise level in game?Can you arrange your downloaded games into folders or does the main icon row just kieep getting longer?
I don't think you can, will check. If anyone else has any questions or anything they want me to check out, let me know.
Not too bad, around the noise level of the slim 360s and PS3s
Can't update and activate Asscreed 4 without PSN, can't get on PSN
gg, Sony
BF4 is definitely running in 900p
also it has crashed once on me
gg, EAEA helpdesk
https://help.ea.com/article/sony-playstation-4-update-1-5-instabilityQuote"Sony has released a firmware update for the PlayStation 4 that is required for many features on the console. However, this update also results in stability issues while playing games on the system.
This affects all games on the PS4, including EA titles, causing crashing/freezing and non-responsive connections between the player's console and their TV Screen.
Unfortunately since it's an issue with Sony's firmware, it requires a new update to fix it. Sony is working to resolve the issue as quickly as they can. They will update their System Update page as new versions are made available, and we will keep this page updated as we find out more."
gg,EASony
For the "Please Wait" PSN issue. I found this at the PS Community forums (Credits to Kikoshi)
1. Hold the Home button and turn off the PS4.
2.Turn it back on and you can skip this part.
3. Go to Settings and factory restore the settings, don't confuse this with Formating. Just restore its settings.
4. Enter everything again and things should work perfectly for you know
Can't update and activate Asscreed 4 without PSN, can't get on PSN
gg, Sony
might wanna wait for the patch for that one anyway if the BF4 resolution is bumming you out.
either downloads are very fast or this is that playgo thing. Warframe is ~4 gigs and downloaded in about 7 minutes.
iirc it doesn't support folders at launch. 3DS and Vita also didn't have folders at launch. Wii U still hasn't been updated with folders. I don't get it.
either downloads are very fast or this is that playgo thing. Warframe is ~4 gigs and downloaded in about 7 minutes.
edit: nope, playgo? says it's ready to install with 3 hours left on the download :wtf
at least it can download several items at once now
edit 2: ok, still faster than PS3. downloaded ~500 meg resogun in 5 minutes with three or four other downloads going.
Also, I don't know why I can't use the touchpad for the onscreen keyboard, would make things so much faster than scrolling with the analog sticks
ok, thanks
My review of The Playroom™:
why can't i
delete The Playroom™
Eel, sorry for being so frank, but weren't you short on cash a little time ago? And you bought a PS4 on day 1?:umad
And yes, I'm jelly.
Eel, sorry for being so frank, but weren't you short on cash a little time ago? And you bought a PS4 on day 1?
And yes, I'm jelly.
I'm gonna go buy a cheapish stereo headset later on today (can't use the USB one I already have :-\ ), so I'll try the twitch thing out then
My favorite thing so far is being able to plug stereo headsets into the game controller for game audio - the sound is really decent, and when you unplug it automatically reverts back to TV/receiver sound
Although I don't understand why they just didn't enable bluetooth stereo so I could use the same $50 pair I've had for 3 years and can use on everything else I own :wtf
I guess if I had to give it a number rating, I'd go with 9/10 hardware, 7.5/10 software - there are some nagging software bugs, but nothing that can't eventually be fixed through updates. Hardware is great, though. They really nailed the controller. Although I prefer the stick placement on the 360, this feels a lot better in my hands.
Eel, sorry for being so frank, but weren't you short on cash a little time ago? And you bought a PS4 on day 1?
And yes, I'm jelly.
Yep, I was. My household monthly bills have been halved since the start of Summer, though. It is nice to have some free cash and not live like a scrounger, although I spent very little actual money on this PS4 stuff. Sold a bunch of bullshit on eBay, and used a Time Warner Cable "better rewards" $100 prepaid visa card. And traded in some bullshit to Gamestop towards the games. Including the games, out of pocket I paid somewhere around...$60-70 total, I want to say?
Eel, sorry for being so frank, but weren't you short on cash a little time ago? And you bought a PS4 on day 1?
And yes, I'm jelly.
Yep, I was. My household monthly bills have been halved since the start of Summer, though. It is nice to have some free cash and not live like a scrounger, although I spent very little actual money on this PS4 stuff. Sold a bunch of bullshit on eBay, and used a Time Warner Cable "better rewards" $100 prepaid visa card. And traded in some bullshit to Gamestop towards the games. Including the games, out of pocket I paid somewhere around...$60-70 total, I want to say?
(http://i.imgur.com/uujScOM.gif)
Anybody thinks that this meme is funny when you're in normal person mode?
I was gonna show the Banderas gifs to people at lunch but thought better of it.
Probably would have done more damage to my rep than telling them I'm a fan of BBC.
:neogaf
Yep, I was. My household monthly bills have been halved since the start of Summer, though. It is nice to have some free cash and not live like a scrounger, although I spent very little actual money on this PS4 stuff. Sold a bunch of bullshit on eBay, and used a Time Warner Cable "better rewards" $100 prepaid visa card. And traded in some bullshit to Gamestop towards the games. Including the games, out of pocket I paid somewhere around...$60-70 total, I want to say?
I'm gonna go buy a cheapish stereo headset later on today (can't use the USB one I already have :-\ ), so I'll try the twitch thing out then
My favorite thing so far is being able to plug stereo headsets into the game controller for game audio - the sound is really decent, and when you unplug it automatically reverts back to TV/receiver sound
Although I don't understand why they just didn't enable bluetooth stereo so I could use the same $50 pair I've had for 3 years and can use on everything else I own :wtf
I guess if I had to give it a number rating, I'd go with 9/10 hardware, 7.5/10 software - there are some nagging software bugs, but nothing that can't eventually be fixed through updates. Hardware is great, though. They really nailed the controller. Although I prefer the stick placement on the 360, this feels a lot better in my hands.
Any 3d sound with headphones?
Yep, I was. My household monthly bills have been halved since the start of Summer, though. It is nice to have some free cash and not live like a scrounger, although I spent very little actual money on this PS4 stuff. Sold a bunch of bullshit on eBay, and used a Time Warner Cable "better rewards" $100 prepaid visa card. And traded in some bullshit to Gamestop towards the games. Including the games, out of pocket I paid somewhere around...$60-70 total, I want to say?
I wish there was a "What did you sell?" thread, I'd own it pretty hard.
I was playing Killzone and got the "Please Wait" it interrupted my game and everything. WTF is up with that?
UI is really slick. Nice for a console to have enough memory to actually function like a PC for once.
I'm on "PLEASE WAIT" to lol Was creating my PSN user account and it's stuck on that. Guess PSN went down again while I was doing it!
if anyone else is stuck at please wait, try this:QuoteFor the "Please Wait" PSN issue. I found this at the PS Community forums (Credits to Kikoshi)
1. Hold the Home button and turn off the PS4.
2.Turn it back on and you can skip this part.
3. Go to Settings and factory restore the settings, don't confuse this with Formating. Just restore its settings.
4. Enter everything again and things should work perfectly for you know
I haven't been paying much attention lately but how did the Banderas gif become a PS4 thing?
Mario, you have access to food, shelter, clothing, and internet. You are not poor, friend.
badly? It's no Crysis/Metro.
just saw a clip on the GB stream that made sharing kinda worth it :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
I'm gonna go buy a cheapish stereo headset later on today (can't use the USB one I already have :-\ ), so I'll try the twitch thing out then
My favorite thing so far is being able to plug stereo headsets into the game controller for game audio - the sound is really decent, and when you unplug it automatically reverts back to TV/receiver sound
Although I don't understand why they just didn't enable bluetooth stereo so I could use the same $50 pair I've had for 3 years and can use on everything else I own :wtf
I guess if I had to give it a number rating, I'd go with 9/10 hardware, 7.5/10 software - there are some nagging software bugs, but nothing that can't eventually be fixed through updates. Hardware is great, though. They really nailed the controller. Although I prefer the stick placement on the 360, this feels a lot better in my hands.
Really liking the PS4, DS4, UI and all that, but I wish I had another game to play besides Resogun. I have to see what's worth getting. And lots of what I like is probably going to be on the xbone as well; some will be better, some will be worse. Reasonably happy with the features they're pushing. Anyway, random thoughts on various games and apps:
-Resogun is fucking awesome.
-Trine 2 looks close enough to my memory of the PC version. You can draw shapes with the touchpad, which might be the only use the touchpad I've seen.
-Warframe has an FOV slider, no autoaim by default, options to turn off bloom, DOF, and motion blur, and one time text popped up asking me to hit the tilde key.
-If you beat Sound Shapes on Vita/PS3 and sync to Sound Shapes PS4, there's a minute of trophy notifications and you get a third set.
-Playroom is practically a trailer for the camera if you don't own the camera. Can't delete it.just saw a clip on the GB stream that made sharing kinda worth it :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCkiOEmOdNM
Knack is pretty solid so far. At least it makes a better impression than Killzone. It's nice to play a challenging action game where you have to learn the enemy patterns and dodge them. Basically it feels like Devil May Cry cute little kid edition with the right stick dashing and enemies that with unique attack patterns that kill you in 3 hits.No, it's more like God of War simplified to 3 buttons, almost no combos, no QTEs, and no special weapons/abilities. At least not until you unlock those gadgets, which I have no clue how they're used. Yes it's very simple and repetitive. Even if you're good enough at action games that it poses little challenge, it's still kinda boring. The 5-6/10 scores seem appropriate. It seems more like a $20-30 indie game than an AAA game.
I found myself still preferring r1 and l1 for aim and shoot in Killzone.I'm gonna go buy a cheapish stereo headset later on today (can't use the USB one I already have :-\ ), so I'll try the twitch thing out then
My favorite thing so far is being able to plug stereo headsets into the game controller for game audio - the sound is really decent, and when you unplug it automatically reverts back to TV/receiver sound
Although I don't understand why they just didn't enable bluetooth stereo so I could use the same $50 pair I've had for 3 years and can use on everything else I own :wtf
I guess if I had to give it a number rating, I'd go with 9/10 hardware, 7.5/10 software - there are some nagging software bugs, but nothing that can't eventually be fixed through updates. Hardware is great, though. They really nailed the controller. Although I prefer the stick placement on the 360, this feels a lot better in my hands.
Wtf, I tried using a pair of crappy Motorola headphones and got no game audio. Sould I try iphone ones? What are the restrictions?
Got my first system freeze, was downloading updates for Warframe and the shit just hard locked, had to pull the plug to reboot
then it chastised me for unplugging, like i had a fucking choice
looks like this is probably gonna be a thing now for the new consoles
welcome to PC gaming, console owners
Got my first system freeze, was downloading updates for Warframe and the shit just hard locked, had to pull the plug to reboot
then it chastised me for unplugging, like i had a fucking choice
looks like this is probably gonna be a thing now for the new consoles
welcome to PC gaming, console owners
Oh, and the touchpad doesn't seem integrated into the UI at all. Unless I'm mistaken, you can't even use the touchpad on the web browser.
My review of Blacklight: Retribution:
"Timed out while connecting to servers. Please wait and try again later."
Why do you think it's rushed? Seems like a very polished game that was just incredibly badly designed and written.so like every other killzone game?
Why do you think it's rushed? Seems like a very polished game that was just incredibly badly designed and written.
http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Launch-Edition/product-reviews/B00BGA9WK2/ref=cm_cr_dp_qt_hist_one?ie=UTF8&filterBy=addOneStar&showViewpoints=0Most of the one stars look like they're written by people with defective units.
Look at the ratings
black&white
hahaha
This is so typical for gaming population,black or white only.
Yeah, the UI is starting to pale in comparison to the xbone's (going by videos), so they weren't kidding when they said their highest priority was to get games on it up and running. I don't see anything that can't fixed if they react fast enough, but it's pretty clear that Microsoft gave the OS a higher priority, and I fully expect their UI to be more mature when it's released— in terms of design, because performance-wise it'll run like dogshitte for the remainder of the year.
Where the fuck is Kosma at?
It's time for him to take his whippings. The PS4 launch is a disaster, I'm glad I opted out of this stupid and shitty console generation.
Streaming is the most important feature added to these consoles. Streaming has always been held back because it required a sometimes complicated setup due to either software conflicts or needing additional hardware. Being built right into the boxes is going to do a lot to bring it even MORE into the mainstream.
Where the fuck is Kosma at?
It's time for him to take his whippings. The PS4 launch is a disaster, I'm glad I opted out of this stupid and shitty console generation.
lol, what.
This is probably the best launch in ages. System is fantastic and runs great. Lots of good games. Everyone is having an great time outside of the few defective units. Probably gonna sell boatloads too as they shipped a ton and sold out.
Streaming is the most important feature added to these consoles. Streaming has always been held back because it required a sometimes complicated setup due to either software conflicts or needing additional hardware. Being built right into the boxes is going to do a lot to bring it even MORE into the mainstream.
and does Nvidia's shadowplay work with streaming?
Video game fans have been highly anticipating the launch of the PlayStation 4, which was finally released to the public on Friday. However, because of the high demand, access to the new video gaming system was largely limited to those customers who pre-ordered their $400 PS4 months in advance.
But that didn’t stop a number of criminals from robbing PlayStation owners just minutes after they left the store with their merchandise in hand.
In Bakersfield, California, 19-year-old Marcus Jenkins and 20-year-old Maurice Boyd, were arrested after allegedly robbing a customer who was leaving the story shortly after midnight on Friday with his PlayStation 4 .
"For the thieves, that's going to be a hot item for them, as well," Bakersfield Police Sgt. Joe Grubbs told Bakersfield News. "Either for selling, or then 'gifting' it."
The Bakersfield News says a similar attempted robbery occurred as another customer was walking out of a Best Buy. Two armed men wearing ski masks approached the customer. But somehow, the customer was able to foil the attempted robbery and call police.
Thousands of customers lined up on Thursday in advance of the PlayStation 4 release and industry experts say they expect demand for the new system will exceed availability for several months. The Xbox One is set to release next week and has also already sold out pre-sale orders through online retailers like Amazon and Best Buy.
Meanwhile, in Kansas, 22-year-old Jordan S. Vincent made it home with his new video game system. However, at around 1:30am, he says that a number of unknown assailants forced their way into his home and stole his new PlayStation 4 .
Police say the shopping thefts aren’t limited to the new PlayStation launch. Business Insider reported that more than 100 million shoppers are vulnerable to identify theft on Black Friday and police say the risk remains high throughout the holiday season.
Streaming is the most important feature added to these consoles. Streaming has always been held back because it required a sometimes complicated setup due to either software conflicts or needing additional hardware. Being built right into the boxes is going to do a lot to bring it even MORE into the mainstream.
(http://i.imgur.com/gs1ejM9.png) :lol
Never realised Mana is such an sfag.
I never understood the shit Manabyte got on this forum until now. When he likes something he's a loud obnoxious shill. Jesus.
I guess not.I never understood the shit Manabyte got on this forum until now. When he likes something he's a loud obnoxious shill. Jesus.
You never saw his MoS posts?
So has anyone actually tried Contrast yet?
What about Warframe? Is that a legitimate game?
A friend brought over his PS4 yesterday and all he had to play was Warframe.:what
So has anyone actually tried Contrast yet?
What about Warframe? Is that a legitimate game?
A friend brought over his PS4 yesterday and all he had to play was Warframe.
So how's everyone analog sticks doing? People are having problems with them wearing really bad.
They definitely feel a bit too grippy and textures which can lead to quicker wear.
The rubber on my 360 controller's left stick is almost completely worn off to the plastic but then again that controller is 7+ years old.
This launch lineup would be pretty great for anyone who doesn't have a good gaming PC hooked up to their TV (which I do).
The streaming thing is impressing more then I expected. A super cool feature that will probably seem essential from now on.
KNACK has pretty good image quality overall. It's just a bland looking game with terrible art. Also it's so fucking frustrating.
I feel differently about Knack, Bebpo. Maybe the environments look much better at times but the demo level I played at Gamestop felt a little underwhelming in the visual department. I guess I may be a little spoiled with PC gaming even though my system is a couple of years old. Or Knacks simplistic aesthetic doesn't really do anything for me. In comparison Super Mario 3D World has an oomph that just isn't there with Knack, visually.
Fairly unforgiving difficulty and some bad checkpoints, judging by the Giantbomb QL. But Jeff wasn't exactly playing very patiently, so that might be a contributing factor.
sitting here playing Knack on my vita via remote play.
its weirdly a better experience because the framerate isnt all stuttery
Nah, it's more like a super simplified version of God of War. It's kind of boring even if you're good enough to breeze through the game on hard mode. The superpowers amount to little more than an i-win button to skip any of the tougher encounters. Checkpoints are very frequent and forgiving, like once every 2-3 encounters.
I like "old-school game design and challenge" and agree with the 6/10 average score. It's just too shallow and repetitive.
I completed it on Hard, moved on to Very Hard. From what I can tell so far, most enemies one shot you, enemy attack and projectile speed is increased by about 50%, and hazards on the map (moving platforms, harmful objects, etc.) move much faster.
Haven't tried the time trial or arena.
Where the fuck is Kosma at?
It's time for him to take his whippings. The PS4 launch is a disaster, I'm glad I opted out of this stupid and shitty console generation.
lol, what.
This is probably the best launch in ages. System is fantastic and runs great. Lots of good games. Everyone is having an great time outside of the few defective units. Probably gonna sell boatloads too as they shipped a ton and sold out.
It caps all games at 30fps. Knack has an unlocked/variable framerate hovering between 30-40, which causes annoying judder.
Where the fuck is Kosma at?
It's time for him to take his whippings. The PS4 launch is a disaster, I'm glad I opted out of this stupid and shitty console generation.
lol, what.
This is probably the best launch in ages. System is fantastic and runs great. Lots of good games. Everyone is having an great time outside of the few defective units. Probably gonna sell boatloads too as they shipped a ton and sold out.
:mindblown
But your impressions made it sound like a pretty underwhelming experience for anyone with a decent PC
Not really, been having pretty positive impressions. You're just taking them negatively because it's like "does Killzone have better graphics than the best PC games that require $500 gpus? Nope. Ok, then underwhelming"; I've got a good PC rig and have been playing 1080p/60fps PC gaming for years and I'm still pretty darn impressed with the PC. Hell, by all accounts from the leaked version of ACIV that just hit PC, PS4's keeping performance with the good modern gpus, and that's just a launch title. The system is gonna be great and will improve the quality of PC games since they won't be held back by 7 year old tech.
Knack isn't a game i'd pay for, but i watched the last half in a twitch stream (some of these dudes make decent money with subs) and it didn't look nearly as bad as people were saying. and it did look pretty hard but maybe the dude playing just wasn't that good
It caps all games at 30fps. Knack has an unlocked/variable framerate hovering between 30-40, which causes annoying judder.
Ok, dark10x
Not really, been having pretty positive impressions. You're just taking them negatively because it's like "does Killzone have better graphics than the best PC games that require $500 gpus? Nope. Ok, then underwhelming"; I've got a good PC rig and have been playing 1080p/60fps PC gaming for years and I'm still pretty darn impressed with the PC. Hell, by all accounts from the leaked version of ACIV that just hit PC, PS4's keeping performance with the good modern gpus, and that's just a launch title. The system is gonna be great and will improve the quality of PC games since they won't be held back by 7 year old tech.
ha, that is underwhelming by my standards
However, I do have higher hopes for the PS4 since people are saying that the PS4 version of BF4 looks and runs great. BF4 is impressive technically, even on the 2nd highest settings.
How does Killzone compare to BF4 on the PS4? I might pick it up cheap as a tech demo when I get a PS4 for MGS5.
Knack isn't a game i'd pay for, but i watched the last half in a twitch stream (some of these dudes make decent money with subs) and it didn't look nearly as bad as people were saying. and it did look pretty hard but maybe the dude playing just wasn't that good
Sounds like pacing and repetition are its biggest problems. That simple combat for 10+ hours sounds maddening, and reviewers played it a day or two. The complaints remind me of my experience with that castlevania reboot.
In a year when they get used to the system, it bold well they'll be pushing great looking games with nice graphical effects at a locked 1080p/30fps which I am a ok with (although for racers/fighters they should drop the effects and go 60fps. Would rather have uglier 1080p/60fps than prettier 720p/60fps).
Thanks for no-bull feedback, Bebpo!
Your info help me know what to expect from the PS4. You might be a disgrace to sfags but you got my respeck.
:obamaIn a year when they get used to the system, it bold well they'll be pushing great looking games with nice graphical effects at a locked 1080p/30fps which I am a ok with (although for racers/fighters they should drop the effects and go 60fps. Would rather have uglier 1080p/60fps than prettier 720p/60fps).
Yeah, for fast paced action games, I would always take a stable 60fps over fancy graphics. If they really want to push the graphical envelope, then I would rather they skimp on anti-aliasing and texture filtering. Image quality issues are annoying but not nearly as much as framerate. PGR was the only 30fps racer that I was willing to play last gen and even then the slow framerate always made the experience feel lacking.
texture filtering is essentially free for any modern GPU, but still, they skimp on it anyway.
texture filtering is essentially free for any modern GPU, but still, they skimp on it anyway.
Supposedly true but why are there Xbone/PS4 games with little or no anisotropic flitering?
Maybe it does make a difference when you're pushing a GPU to the limit.
I sit maybe 4-5 feet from my 46 inch tv
lack of AA is like fucking knives into my brain.
(http://i.imgur.com/kQab3yy.jpg)
This morning, gaming site Polygon is doing a twelve-hour live stream showing off the Xbox One. Right before the comical demo of Dead Rising 3, where most of the voice commands didn’t seem to work and they couldn’t even snap Internet Explorer correctly, a panel of editors discussed the system that the site seems to be carrying so much water for.
During this panel, site Editor-in-Chief Chris Grant stated a couple times that one advantage the Xbox One has over the PS4 is that the Xbox One supports remote controls and the PS4 does not. He even used the example that grandma would want to use the Xbox One over the PS4 because she wouldn’t want to use the Dual Shock 4 to watch a movie. Later, he used the example of Netflix on how the Xbox One is a superior choice over the PS4 for Netflix because of remote support.
The problem with these statements is that they are lies.
The PlayStation 4, like the Slim PS3 before it, fully supports HDMI-CEC controls. While every TV manufacturer calls it something different, virtually every major television that is relatively recent supports it. Samsung, Sony, Sharp, Panasonic, LG, Hitachi, Toshiba, Philips, and component manufacturers like Onkyo all support this Consumer Electronics Control feature of HDMI. Due to HDMI-CEC, you can use your normal television remote control to operate the PS4.
While the Xbox One does support an IR-Blaster, most devices have moved away from that because HDMI-CEC is simply more convenient due to being able to use your normal TV remote for control.
I even made a video to demonstrate this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcCbL63l50M
(http://i.imgur.com/8HU0Ru8.jpg)\
Here he is playing WoW while monitoring Major Nelson's twitter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4zwhhgQyy0
That's dedication
Most of the bore are PC gamers?
Cuz most of us here are PC gamers who weren't gonna play AC4 or BF4 on a console anyways. Might as well go for the system with the more interesting exclusives, which is at least for now the Xbone.
Cuz most of us here are PC gamers who weren't gonna play AC4 or BF4 on a console anyways. Might as well go for the system with the more interesting exclusives, which is at least for now the Xbone.
Depends on taste tho. I like my Japan games (Yakuza) and quirky platformers like Knack and Sony 1st party franchises like Infamous, so PS4 exclusives are my cup of tea. Even if I got a Xbone for free, the only game I'd get would be DR3 since I dig the DR franchise. I mean the next "BIG" game for each system is Infamous & Titanfall and one's console exclusive and the other will play/run/look better on your PC.
People are having twitter wars over remote control standards?
Could only be a new console launch. :P
Manabyte is the worst thing that's happened to the PS4.
It was only a while ago that our boy ManaByte was down on his luck, close to leaving this mortal coil. Now he is balling as fuck with his fancy HDTVs and PS4s.
We're all gonna make it, brahs :tocry
i just can't fathom why anyone would willingly drop more money for a subpar experience whe ncompared to the ps4. do you REALLY want to play that zombie game that bad? it's like WiiU fans mark 2/. atleast with sony oyu get brand new gameplay experiences and innovations for cheaper pricesBecause Knack doesn't interest me, Killzone doesn't interest me and no other current exclusive for the PS4 interests me. I'm getting both anyways so why not start with the one that has the games that I want now? For the xbone launch I want Forza, Dead Rising 3, Ryse, Crimson Dragon and Zoo Tycoon (don't you dare f'ing judge me). So for launch the choice is clear for me. It's not necessarily one or the other. I'll get the PS4 when Infamous drops.
You're getting Zoo Tycoon?!bring sexy back
WHAT SHOULD I BRING ON SUNDAY
:whoo
Oh shit, Jeremy Conrad (former IGN editor) just exposed Polygon on his blog.
Why did he want to kill himself?
Anyone recall?
Why did he want to kill himself?
Anyone recall?
He didn't post a link because it's a shitty article: http://furiousfanboys.com/2013/11/polygon-exposed/
He didn't post a link because it's a shitty article: http://furiousfanboys.com/2013/11/polygon-exposed/
"Youtube" (lower case T) :ufupNot to defend Manabyte, but... :beli
Manabyte worries me. :(
"Youtube" (lower case T) :ufupNot to defend Manabyte, but... :beli
You need [diety(s)], seriously. As fucked as organized religion is, it's better than championing a corporation. Have some dignity.
Why did he want to kill himself?
Anyone recall?
Did I say you need one? I'm not explaining this to you, Himurella.
Sony is giving away WARHAWK, DESTRUCTION DERBY and TWISTED METAL PS1 in H :-\ M EDestruction Derby was so fuckin' good. Sad that that series died. Other two are no slouches either.
Gonna stomach it so I can put them on my Vitor
(http://i.minus.com/jQDGKPxgJArW4.png) were these companies this immature last time around?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZoY-rsCEAEHxgV.png:large)
SHOTS FIRED, HERE WE GO
Why did he want to kill himself?
Anyone recall?
Which time?
There was the time he wanted to kill himself because his wife was moving out because he was playing too many MMOs and he lost his job at SOE (Sony Online Entertainment). He blamed losing his job on his Christian fundamentalist parents-in-law but never expounded as to why, since his explanations made no sense.
There was also the time he became a truck driver. He fucked up repeatedly and then they fired him mid-delivery so he had to find a way to get back home, which was thousands of miles away. Apparently he made it home ok because a week or two later, he was talking about MMOs again.
There were other times but these were the two most recent events that came to mind. There was another time he about killed himself because some people were trying to cyberstalk his girlfriend, trying to find where she works.
Why do you know this.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZoY-rsCEAEHxgV.png:large)
SHOTS FIRED, HERE WE GO
(http://i.minus.com/jQDGKPxgJArW4.png) were these companies this immature last time around?We didn't have twitter last time around.
Why did he want to kill himself?
Anyone recall?
Which time?
There was the time he wanted to kill himself because his wife was moving out because he was playing too many MMOs and he lost his job at SOE (Sony Online Entertainment). He blamed losing his job on his Christian fundamentalist parents-in-law but never expounded as to why, since his explanations made no sense.
There was also the time he became a truck driver. He fucked up repeatedly and then they fired him mid-delivery so he had to find a way to get back home, which was thousands of miles away. Apparently he made it home ok because a week or two later, he was talking about MMOs again.
There were other times but these were the two most recent events that came to mind. There was another time he about killed himself because some people were trying to cyberstalk his girlfriend, trying to find where she works.
Why do you know this.
Please do a Cruncheons version of this, PLEASE. TAKE CALLS.
http://imgur.com/gallery/X3m4uW0
Cross post,Console wars know no boundaries, bro.
reported to mod.
http://imgur.com/gallery/X3m4uW0
Please do a Cruncheons version of this, PLEASE. TAKE CALLS.
Not sure how we'd do it, I'm the only one with a PS4 :lol
http://www.twitch.tv/spartanm
(http://i.imgur.com/972yRDK.png)
Next gen begins :dead
I'll look into it
Media Molecule working on new Parappa The Rapper?
:whoo
Don't know how to feel. On one hand, PARAPPA THE RAPPER my old love; on the other, MEDIA MOLECULE. I hope only one half of this rumor is true.
Media Molecule working on new Parappa The Rapper?
:whoo
Don't know how to feel. On one hand, PARAPPA THE RAPPER my old love; on the other, MEDIA MOLECULE. I hope only one half of this rumor is true.
Media Molecule working on new Parappa The Rapper?
:whoo
Don't know how to feel. On one hand, PARAPPA THE RAPPER my old love; on the other, MEDIA MOLECULE. I hope only one half of this rumor is true.
has that rumor changed? last week people were saying it's an indie studio handling it, possibly queasy games (everyday shooter, sound shapes) which would be an awesome fit.
kick punch it's all in the mind if you wanna test me I'm sure you'll find the things I teach ya are sure to beat ya
Parappa would be so hard today with input lag :(
I like media molecule :yeshrug
I never bought lbp2 but I had fun w/ the first.
To show its appreciation for players' "patience," DICE is offering double experience for every multiplayer match played between Nov. 28 and Dec. 5. DICE will also give any player that logs in on Dec. 5 a M1911 pistol scope, which was previously reserved for DICE developers.
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=720881
This thread... The expressive, broken English. I haven't done reading and I don't even know what it's about yet but it's already hilarious.
PS4 launch is so exciting that sfags are talking about PS1 games
:sabu
And then there's Darckobra. He and his wife sat on a couch drinking, and drinking, and drinking. Eventually, the wife passed out. So the man did what any man deserving of divorce papers would do: he showed the internet some breast — and not his own. Yes, live on Twitch TV, via The Playroom on PS4, a man lifted up his unconscious wife's shirt and exposed her breast. After 15 or 16 post-boob minutes, the channel went dark briefly; upon its return, the wife was completely naked, presumably stripped by the husband.
http://www.gamerevolution.com/news/man-exposes-wifes-breast-on-ps4-twitch-stream-then-strips-her-completely-22779QuoteAnd then there's Darckobra. He and his wife sat on a couch drinking, and drinking, and drinking. Eventually, the wife passed out. So the man did what any man deserving of divorce papers would do: he showed the internet some breast — and not his own. Yes, live on Twitch TV, via The Playroom on PS4, a man lifted up his unconscious wife's shirt and exposed her breast. After 15 or 16 post-boob minutes, the channel went dark briefly; upon its return, the wife was completely naked, presumably stripped by the husband.
:drool
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=90975608&postcount=136:lol
:umad :heh
http://www.gamerevolution.com/news/man-exposes-wifes-breast-on-ps4-twitch-stream-then-strips-her-completely-22779QuoteAnd then there's Darckobra. He and his wife sat on a couch drinking, and drinking, and drinking. Eventually, the wife passed out. So the man did what any man deserving of divorce papers would do: he showed the internet some breast — and not his own. Yes, live on Twitch TV, via The Playroom on PS4, a man lifted up his unconscious wife's shirt and exposed her breast. After 15 or 16 post-boob minutes, the channel went dark briefly; upon its return, the wife was completely naked, presumably stripped by the husband.
:drool
Was there any footage of this? Love me some housewife.
Brazzers Live for Gaffots
Naked bitchwow
http://i.imgur.com/EhCWZ4f.jpg
distinguished mentally-challenged fellow live
http://www.twitch.tv/netguy503
Welp, say goodbye to streaming from the camera
Okay so uh now that both consoles are out with garbage launch lineups when does the good stuff come out
Okay so uh now that both consoles are out with garbage launch lineups when does the good stuff come out
Okay so uh now that both consoles are out with garbage launch lineups when does the good stuff come out
Okay so uh now that both consoles are out with garbage launch lineups when does the good stuff come out
Ishin is out in February.
'Cept it's also on the PS3.
And only in Japanese.
:lol
Okay so uh now that both consoles are out with garbage launch lineups when does the good stuff come out
Not shocked after some dude was getting a suck off some girl last night and then put his dick in a dogs mouth. Sick fuck.
(http://i.imgur.com/ObMfyKb.png)
the escalation of playroom streaming
day 1: man starts a talk show
day 2: man strips his unconscious wife
day 3: man puts dick in dog's mouth
day 4: ???
:kobeyuck
Infamous looks like Infamous with better graphics, more powers, more destruction. If you liked Infamous 2 (like a lot of people did), this will be fun. If you are an Infamous hater, you will hate this.
Game will score mainly 8s like Infamous 1 & 2 did. It's the same damn game. Not expecting it to change anyone's minds.
What latest game play video?
:kobeyuck
Infamous looks like Infamous with better graphics, more powers, more destruction. If you liked Infamous 2 (like a lot of people did), this will be fun. If you are an Infamous hater, you will hate this.
Game will score mainly 8s like Infamous 1 & 2 did. It's the same damn game. Not expecting it to change anyone's minds.
I've never played an Infamous game before and I am just measuring this up against past superhero games. Spiderman 2, Ultimate Spiderman, Hulk Ultimate Destruction, etc. You could watch gameplay videos of those games and instantly know what was fun about them. When playing them you felt like a superhero and their worlds felt like a playground for you to mess around in.
As opposed to every single video of Second Son I've seen so far, which makes the game look like an ultra realistic third person shooter where you just happen to shoot little bits of flame out of your arm. Every time I look at pictures of the game I have to remind myself that it is a "superhero" game and not just a virtual Seattle simulator. Obviously I have no idea if the game is actually any good, but I'm just saying.. they are doing a pretty terrible job of getting me to care about their game.What latest game play video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLPkVAafWXA
Why can't there be a game where you play the cops beating up the douchey superheroes
As opposed to every single video of Second Son I've seen so far, which makes the game look like an ultra realistic third person shooter where you just happen to shoot little bits of flame out of your arm. Every time I look at pictures of the game I have to remind myself that it is a "superhero" game and not just a virtual Seattle simulator. Obviously I have no idea if the game is actually any good, but I'm just saying.. they are doing a pretty terrible job of getting me to care about their game.
Controller is perfect. PERFECT. Aside from one thing:
:lol
infamous is better than uncharted 2
metal gear solid 4 is a great game
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InFamous is awesome, bunch a shit taste fuckers in this joint.
LTTP is almost as overrated as FF6, almost.
LTTP is almost as overrated as FF6, almost.
both infamous games are pretty great. infamous is better than uncharted 2(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/Rahxephon91/103948_zps953c1f82.gif) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Rahxephon91/media/103948_zps953c1f82.gif.html)
Infamous seems like a B Tier game, which is fine by me. I liked both Prototype games, and I don't see it being worse than any of those two.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LS9Mcw0_4w
"Do you think Nintendo products are designed for gay people?"
:lol
What's that?
Speaking of bad taste. I agree with the guy about the industry but did he have to try and make out that Knack was Cerny's gift to gaming?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0mmwNqPTzg
That could be an example of over excitement,see GTA 4.I can't really hate them for that,sometimes the same thing happens to me.In the end reviews are just people opinions,often delivered under time constraints.
PSN down because of the Euro launch and thousands of hoarders trying to redeem the 25 PS+ codes they bought all at once. This is the one time of the year I can really sit back and play online games all day, so of course it's busted all to shit. This is all turning into too much time-wasting hassle.
InFamous is awesome, bunch a shit taste fuckers in this joint.LTTP is almost as overrated as FF6, almost.
:goty
I'm sorry that I'm not a nostalgia feg. I'd rather play InFamous again than a B-tier Zelda and repugnant for weeaboos who cry at pixelated opera scenes crap.
Sure it is. Playing a game is always better than stewing in your living room waiting for your console to be fixed.
I know you guys are gonna make fun of me and I don't care, but honestly this thread kind of made me take a break from this board. I'm still here but using it less and sticking to not PS4 threads.
This whole thread is a bunch of non-PS4 owners taking every bit of bad news they can find and trolling as hard as possible on the PS4 trying to convince themselves and the people who bought the system that somehow the system sucks right now (even though, like the PS3, 4 years down the line they'll all own it).
Wasn't really talking about you Himuro. More of the tone of the board, which is always pretty harsh on stuff (Nintendo fans like Andrex get this all the time), is just bringing out a really negative tone in this thread on the PS4, which just feels pretty counter to my actual experience with the system and since I'm not going to change any minds it just seems kind of pointless to post in this thread.
Wasn't really talking about you Himuro. More of the tone of the board, which is always pretty harsh on stuff (Nintendo fans like Andrex get this all the time), is just bringing out a really negative tone in this thread on the PS4, which just feels pretty counter to my actual experience with the system and since I'm not going to change any minds it just seems kind of pointless to post in this thread.
I can play offline games. I'm mainly pissed that BF4 is sorta-kinda working and now I can't play for a different reason :lol
My crit is legit, these companies want you to lock into their online stores and services, yet their shit is down all the time because they won't properly prepare and invest in the foundation.+1
Bebpo this board is TeamXbox2.com, its literally full of xbots you just have to smack them in their faces because theyre so ego
All those games would run much better on your PC if you had bought a $400 videocard except NBA2k14 since it's a different game with more advanced tech
I don't see the point of buying a PS4 now if you have zero interest in the exclusives
This whole thread is a bunch of non-PS4 owners taking every bit of bad news they can find and trolling as hard as possible on the PS4 trying to convince themselves and the people who bought the system that somehow the system sucks right now (even though, like the PS3, 4 years down the line they'll all own it).This thread and the xbox thread is mostly trolling, joking around, and poking fun at console warriors. I don't see any "serious business" console warriors here like you'd find at gaf. Once the launch hype passes it'll calm down.
Plus I don't like PC gaming, I hate never having something running 100% to its maximum capacity its weird
The Bore keeps it real and yeah, take it or leave it.
A quick update on the state of PlayStation 4 sales, since everyone’s watching this closely, and the numbers keep rising at record rates: After I broke down a questionable demographic report on Black Friday console sales in the U.S. yesterday morning, Sony released updated sales figures for the PS4 worldwide. The new figure: 2.1 million units sold.
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re: people leaving
It has always been like this. Some people seem to carry on the act as if it's still funny or relevant. I'm pretty sure EVERYONE here knows they are being a fucking idiot, on the slight hope that they will stop and think, "gee, i'm really acting like a fucking nimrod. maybe i should stop."
But they silence that voice and type away, anyway.
Nothing on this board has been worth leaving for - aside from any personal issues you have at the time. People are welcome to come and go, as they please.
Quote from: http://techland.time.com/2013/12/03/sonys-playstation-4-now-serving-2-1-million-users-worldwide/A quick update on the state of PlayStation 4 sales, since everyone’s watching this closely, and the numbers keep rising at record rates: After I broke down a questionable demographic report on Black Friday console sales in the U.S. yesterday morning, Sony released updated sales figures for the PS4 worldwide. The new figure: 2.1 million units sold.
You were saying, Oscar? :smug
At this point last generation (aka the generation where most companies lost tons of money on the console business and a record number of console developers went under) the total number of consoles sold was over 12 million. So far, this gen is just over 7 million. We won't even bring up software sales.
Basically, I'm cool with my prediction. Console sales will be down significantly gen-over-gen and software sales will be flat at the upper end and lower at every other level, all at a higher budget to boot.
:miyamoto
Only get Killzone if you want a straight forward Quake-esque MP deathmatch shooter to kick around. The SP is trash.
If we don't count Nintendo (aka, not counting Wii sales and not counting Wii U sales), I'd disagree. I feel there's going to be an uptick in hardware sales this gen worldwide and PS4 will finish much higher than PS3 did, though Xbone will drop from X360 numbers. Software will probably stay about the same imo. PS4 really feels like what people who actually play games want out of a system. Affordable, nice graphics, nice controller, good interface, nice and sleek and compact system design, good & straightforward online. Only thing it's missing is BC and then it'd sell even more.
PS3 and Xbox360 sold 9 million combined in their first week or two?
no, i'm going chronologically, which means the xbox 360 has been out for a year and a month at this point. that's how we compare generations.
If we don't count Nintendo (aka, not counting Wii sales and not counting Wii U sales), I'd disagree. I feel there's going to be an uptick in hardware sales this gen worldwide and PS4 will finish much higher than PS3 did, though Xbone will drop from X360 numbers. Software will probably stay about the same imo. PS4 really feels like what people who actually play games want out of a system. Affordable, nice graphics, nice controller, good interface, nice and sleek and compact system design, good & straightforward online. Only thing it's missing is BC and then it'd sell even more.
I think that would be a pointless argument. It is like disqualifying the ps1 and ps2 generations because most of the casuals bought that system(ps1 and ps2) and doesnt show the complete picture. Most of the casuals went with the wii last gen, it would be unfair if we disqualify it just for being weaker hardware.
Now if we wanted to to show that hardcore gamers are on the rise it would be better to show that on CONSOLES how many hours a year overall people play which should dwarf the casual hours a bit.
there will always be games, so no worries.
PS4 might mark the return of Japanese console games due to Japan finally getting the hang of shaders and advanced architecture and the PS4 being very easy to work with and thus lowering costs
PS4 might mark the return of Japanese console games due to Japan finally getting the hang of shaders and advanced architecture and the PS4 being very easy to work with and thus lowering costs
Is tech really Japan's main problem though? For example, Resident Evil had some of the best looking games last gen but still gamers weren't happy with where the series was heading.
I think a bigger problem is Japan devs trying to understand the modern needs and wants of Western gamers. Either they overcompensate and add unnecessary shooter elements or they make something that is just a PS2 game running in higher resolution.
has anyone else try that F2P ww2 plane game? blanking on the name, but it's only on the euro store. it's straight up a PC game running on a console. the menus are all pointer based and you navigate with the touchpad. in-game you can aim and fly using the touchpad. and there's a menu where you can adjust video options (notably, disabling FXAA if you'd like). makes me wonder if sony has a certification process or if they're lenient. really weird to see a game in this state on a console.
High end Japanese gaming is dead, man.
Yall just gotta deal with it
As I've mentioned here a couple times, third party software sales on the Wii were really good, and for certain companies, EA, Ubisoft, and Activision in particular, not having those sales this generation is going to make a big difference on their bottom line.
It could be so; sadly, I haven't played all that many Japanese exclusives. Many of my friends at the Japanese company where I worked were still buying all the new stuff, and I got a lot of reports on what they were experiencing, but my impressions are second-hand because I couldn't be bothered. So take my opinion with the appropriate pinch of salt. Or salt shaker.
I can't even say that I blame the Japanese developers; taking chances, sticking one's neck out is not really what the culture is based on. Technology is historically, largely a matter of fine-tuning improvements into proven systems. I'm sure that watching some of the GLORIOUS FACEPLANTS many western devs performed when attempting something brilliant and ambitious but ultimately ineffective in terms of sales was a huge encouragement to stay safe.
Then again, there are a few titles which did that; I'm suddenly remembering Bayonetta and Catherine, which had interesting and fresh mechanics, impressive production value, strong marketing, and also still managed to flop.
Actually, wait. It outsold Persona 3 as well if you're just counting the base P3 and not the expansions/ports. And it outsold every Etrian Odyssey game. So, yeah, it's pretty much the 2nd highest selling game from the company after P4 (not sure if SMTIV outsold it, maybe).
Sounds pretty successful for a small/moderate budget PS3 engine test.
It did over 200k first two weeks in Japan. That puts it behind P3/P4, but up there with SMT.
Atlus games don't sell much in general. Anything over 200k is good sales for the company.
It sold 206k ltd on PS3 in Japan, which is good, yes. Almost exactly the same as Bayonetta PS3. But in NA, its first month was under 80k across both platforms, and it had awful legs. Counting the 25k from Xbox Japanese sales, Catherine is under 350k across NA/JP. That puts it up with recent SMT games but well below Persona.
Bayonetta, which you're saying is a huge bomb, sold 320k across both platforms in Japan and 450k across both platforms in NA.
Actually, wait. It outsold Persona 3 as well if you're just counting the base P3 and not the expansions/ports. And it outsold every Etrian Odyssey game. So, yeah, it's pretty much the 2nd highest selling game from the company after P4 (not sure if SMTIV outsold it, maybe).
Sounds pretty successful for a small/moderate budget PS3 engine test.
who told you Catherine was small budget?
just because it looks and plays like a small budget puzzler doesn't mean it cost the same as one
it would be great if more expensive games had more complex gameplay, but... :goty
Real talk
Dark Souls is like a Euro janky RPG,but with no story.Not hard at all,you just have to level up/get better weapons and endure pathetic framerate.Can't believe I spend $40 on it,never fooling me again sfags.
I feel better now.
Well the fact there is no one clear example kind of proves the point.
On the other hand we have games like MW1, Gears, Uncharted.
I don't think the latter two are transformative to any great extent, especially Uncharted. MW, I'll grant, on the basis of the perk system.
Generally, though, on either side of the ocean, game devs tended to either roll something safe with a high budget or experimental with a lower one. Very few games were released that could tick off both the "high budget" and "experimental" boxes this last gen.
Real talk
Dark Souls is like a Euro janky RPG,but with no story.Not hard at all,you just have to level up/get better weapons and endure pathetic framerate.Can't believe I spend $40 on it,never fooling me again sfags.
I feel better now.
Yeah I downloaded all of my cross platform games from my ps3/Vita. Man, Flower looks a hell of a lot better on the PS4 than I remember but I haven't really compared the two to see what the difference actually is.
Man, I was just thinking I'll probably also lose Resogun since it'll probably not be free still by the time I get my new system.....You can "buy" PS freebies from https://store.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/
:beli
Not a PS+ subscriber? I believe cloud saves sync automatically in the background.
I keep seeing ps4's at my local target off and on and fuck I have been tempted. Goddamn new gadget fever
I keep seeing ps4's at my local target off and on and fuck I have been tempted. Goddamn new gadget fever
Oh my god Killzone is so boring. It's like they looked at Far Cry 3 and Halo 4 and said "that" and then totally missed what made those games special in the first place. Makes for a nice vision of what real developers will be able to do (it's pretty and runs real well), but these fuckers really can't craft an exciting scenario for the lives of them. I think maybe they just need a new producer. Oh well, it's less bad than PDZ at least.
Oh my god Killzone is so boring. It's like they looked at Far Cry 3 and Halo 4 and said "that" and then totally missed what made those games special in the first place. Makes for a nice vision of what real developers will be able to do (it's pretty and runs real well), but these fuckers really can't craft an exciting scenario for the lives of them. I think maybe they just need a new producer. Oh well, it's less bad than PDZ at least.
Maybe the problem is halo 4 and kz3 are shit too?
So this headphone out port on the controller is a fucking brilliant thing. :lawd:bow 3DO :bow2
So this headphone out port on the controller is a fucking brilliant thing. :lawd
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You guys need to pick up Tomb Raider DE. Shit is beautiful and makes people like me who only bought BF4 that their investment was worth it.
You guys need to pick up Tomb Raider DE. Shit is beautiful and makes people like me who only bought BF4 that their investment was worth it.
I finally saw a PS4 at a store today. Still no interest in buying one, though.
I finally saw a PS4 at a store today. Still no interest in buying one, though.
I hate that the PS4 isn't backwards compatible. Yeah, yeah, PS Now, I know, I know.
I'd be playing the shit out of my PS4 if it played PS3 games and streamed them to the Vita.
:-\
I finally saw a PS4 at a store today. Still no interest in buying one, though.
I finally saw a PS4 at a store today. Still no interest in buying one, though.
I finally saw a PS4 at a store today. Still no interest in buying one, though.
That's what you say until the first Gundam game is released on it a few months after Jpn launch :P
I finally saw a PS4 at a store today. Still no interest in buying one, though.
Same here, although Tomb Raider is the first game I'd have even the slightest interest in picking up (never played the other versions).
Anyone else playing the ff IV beta? I'm downloading it now. So kawaii
Yeah I hear a lot if great things about 14 from FF buddies. Looking forward to getting a ps4 and aging with you Mups :heartbeat what games you gotFIFA, bf4, ghosts and ass crud
You should get a PS+ subscription and download Resogun for free. I'm finding that it is the only PS4 game I'm playing. The game is fun but can be really frustrating at times.well my friend had bought a whole year of ps+ so instead of it going to waste I'm using his account. I don't have any real ties to my old psn account. So resogun is on there. I was telling me I need to play it too. He also bought digital Lego marvels so I have that too. Woot woot
For as crud as KZSF (SP) is, it's actually better than the remarkably shitty shit that is COD Ghosts. :/ People complain that it's the same old, but it's not. The old was good, this... it's just shit.yeah I played like 45 minutes of ghosts last night and fuck me thats some boring shit. I haven't cared for a COD since MW2 though
Is it even worth game flying it?
someone was doing this on battlefield. And he was singing. I fucking hate peopleIs it even worth game flying it?
KZ has turned out better than I initially gave it credit for. SP feels like a tech demo so it's worth a few minutes to ooh aah (unfortunately, the most visually striking mission is nowhere near the beginning of the game) but multiplayer is actually pretty good. I had a hard time figuring out the abilities and stuff (like air drones and shit) but that's all on me.
Speaking of which, what's this new trend of twits playing shitty music into their mics?
FIFA, bf4, ghosts and ass crud
You shouldn't be playing thisI regret not playing more ff xi. :yeshrug
Nobody on their deathbed ever says "MAN I WISH I'D PLAYED MORE FF14"
You shouldn't be playing this
Nobody on their deathbed ever says "MAN I WISH I'D PLAYED MORE FF14"
It is only really fun in dungeons and boss battles which are quite involved and almost a bit puzzly. Those are group activities. The sole stuff is low rent mmo fair, offering nothing cool. If you just want to solo, I'm not sure why you'd want to play this game. The story? You're a hero who does things....There's not much else to it.
It's just a real run of the mill mmo that's pretty.
and you can solo most of the game like FFXII/Xenoblade.
and you can solo most of the game like FFXII/Xenoblade.
I don't get this. Why do people want to solo massively multiplayer online RPGs?
Um yeah......too bad the mmo stuff is sandwiched and outnumbered by that "standard" stuff. Hell standard is being nice for what is some of the most unimaginative quests in modern MMOs.
well, um , yeah - the stuff you do on your own is pretty standard stuff - the duty stuff/online/um.. actual MMO stuff is pretty good.
Because it takes out all the repetitive and tedious things an MMO like 14 has and gives you a single player jrpg with a decent story and systems.and you can solo most of the game like FFXII/Xenoblade.
I don't get this. Why do people want to solo massively multiplayer online RPGs?
Why do people like FFXII?
and you can solo most of the game like FFXII/Xenoblade.
I don't get this. Why do people want to solo massively multiplayer online RPGs?
Why do people like FFXII?
Being able to solo is nice for when you can't find a party. Ever try jumping into an mmo thats not WoW AFTER the initial release rush? Its usually empty as fuck. I originally jumped on XI at launch and loved it. I had to stop for a year or so and when I went back everyone had moved on to higher level areas but I couldn't even level up because it was impossible to solo past a certain point. So at around level 20 I just hit a wall and couldn't play anymore.It's really easy to solo XI now, they added all these exp bonuses. I would jump back in but I'm completely broke atm :'(
motherfuckers. The last time I tried was 2011 and I got to level 22 but when I got to the dunes it was so dead I gave upBeing able to solo is nice for when you can't find a party. Ever try jumping into an mmo thats not WoW AFTER the initial release rush? Its usually empty as fuck. I originally jumped on XI at launch and loved it. I had to stop for a year or so and when I went back everyone had moved on to higher level areas but I couldn't even level up because it was impossible to solo past a certain point. So at around level 20 I just hit a wall and couldn't play anymore.It's really easy to solo XI now, they added all these exp bonuses. I would jump back in but I'm completely broke atm :'(
Yeah playing an mmo by yourself is distinguished mentally-challenged. Lets play a fighting game without fighting other humans brehs. Story/arcade mode only.
So if they took Skyrim, added multiplayer to the sequel, all those 10 million+ players who enjoy going out and exploring a realm on their own will be playing it wrong?Would that Skyrim sequel make healing yourself and other things not easy and thus you can't be completely self-sufficient? Would it make one trash enemies challenging enough that it can easily kill you? Would it make those dungeons require many different party roles that you being say an archer can not hope to fill yet you still need a healer or a tank?
As for MMOs, with FFXI, I of course started playing thinking I'd enjoy playing with other people. After all, playing with other people can add unpredictability and social stuff that can make things interesting. Before too long, I noticed that the unpredictability was an illusion. There's a "proper" way to play, and if you aren't following the script exactly, people freak out.This is eaxctly what I'm talking about. 14 is nothing but this, except even more limited.
As a result, the game ended up offering considerably less variety and experimentation than even FF1 if you wanted to play with others. But the world and story were pretty interesting and I wanted to see more, so I ended up hanging up my PLD/WAR and doing the solo DRG/WHM thing. It was hard, but a lot more fun than the hamster wheel most of the other players were on. And I could still chat with my linkshell of course, which was like having IRC.
MMO players have a tendency to get overly serious and focus on efficiency at all costs. I can see that being enjoyable for some, but it's not what I'm looking for. But I still wanted to see the world and play the story, so I did.
QuoteAs for MMOs, with FFXI, I of course started playing thinking I'd enjoy playing with other people. After all, playing with other people can add unpredictability and social stuff that can make things interesting. Before too long, I noticed that the unpredictability was an illusion. There's a "proper" way to play, and if you aren't following the script exactly, people freak out.This is eaxctly what I'm talking about. 14 is nothing but this, except even more limited.
As a result, the game ended up offering considerably less variety and experimentation than even FF1 if you wanted to play with others. But the world and story were pretty interesting and I wanted to see more, so I ended up hanging up my PLD/WAR and doing the solo DRG/WHM thing. It was hard, but a lot more fun than the hamster wheel most of the other players were on. And I could still chat with my linkshell of course, which was like having IRC.
MMO players have a tendency to get overly serious and focus on efficiency at all costs. I can see that being enjoyable for some, but it's not what I'm looking for. But I still wanted to see the world and play the story, so I did.
Classess go in one direction development wise.
Gear(so far) goes in one direction.
There is no real experimentation which is a shame since this game has jobs and sub jobs where you think you could master a few jobs and mix and match skills. Yet, you can't because only a few skills do mix with other jobs. Skills that are already in line with the mixed class, skills that that the mix class may already have a skill that fills the spot.
Well. My free time is over. I'm having a lot of fucking fun on this ff xiv beta
What server are you on? We should party up broWell. My free time is over. I'm having a lot of fucking fun on this ff xiv beta
Hell yes! Me too!
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Hail FFXIV BETA!
You may not have a hard time getting a party in XIV for the dungeons(which plenty are story required) since people will use them for leveling up other jobs. The only problem may be the actual main story bossess(Ifirt, Garuda, the one Judge dude)who as far as I remember have no actual rewards so once people are finished they won't want to do them again.
You tell me. I haven't played the game since November after I finished Graudua Hard Mode. Was that added in a recent patch?QuoteYou may not have a hard time getting a party in XIV for the dungeons(which plenty are story required) since people will use them for leveling up other jobs. The only problem may be the actual main story bossess(Ifirt, Garuda, the one Judge dude)who as far as I remember have no actual rewards so once people are finished they won't want to do them again.
.... isn't this exactly what Duty Roulette was introduced to solve?
what server?
My ps4 keeps shutting down completely from standby mode. And then in order to turn it back on I have to unplug it and plug it back in. It does this after about 3 days in standby mode. I assume this isn't normal?
Does the system get hot or the exhaust air?Nope. Very cool and quiet the whole time. How long is the warranty on the ps4?
How long is the warranty on the ps4?It depends where you live. I'm guessing you have a year.
Both, but it's mainly the exhaust air.Yeah, that should be enough space. Maybe you should wait for the next batch of systems before you get it replaced again.
I do have it in an entertainment system shelf but there's at least 6 inches of space on both sides of the system and it has 4 inches above it. I mean I guess being in a cabinet could be the problem but none of my other systems have that problem and the ONE has even less room but it's always whisper quiet.
Yeah, that should be enough space. Maybe you should wait for the next batch of systems before you get it replaced again.
I'm seriously impressed with how quiet this thing is. :mynicca
I'm seriously impressed with how quiet this thing is. :mynicca
How old is he? Apparently there are three Lego games for the system.
guy streaming gtav with a ipad stuck on his tv showing four guys talking about basketballXbone may have sports OR gaming but PS4 has sports AND gaming. :bow
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I checked the streaming stuff after some time. found:
I checked the streaming stuff after some time. found:
guy nonstop treaming this dancing girl game
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guy drawing the girl bunny from space jam
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guy with the camera pointed at his tv playing kingdom hearts on another system
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guy streaming gtav with a ipad stuck on his tv showing four guys talking about basketball
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http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2014/05/27/the-order-1886-delayed-into-2015.aspx
So, unless they bust out some surprise stuff at E3, they pretty much have nothing for Fall 2014. :lol
What is there to say, next gen is getting worse by the day.
There is still no killer app.
Might as well buy TLOU and replay that.
What is there to say, next gen is getting worse by the day.
There is still no killer app.
Might as well buy TLOU and replay that.
What "killer app" would there be? That slot is taken up by the dudebro FPS games that hit every platform now- Battlefield, Call Of Duty, and Destiny are going to be the big games this fall.