Reggie "Absolutely" Fils-Aime has promised the Wii U device will offer "fantastic" value for money.
The Nintendo of America boss was speaking in an interview with GameTrailers. When asked whether Wii U will be priced competitively with PS3 and Xbox 360 he replied, predictably, "Absolutely."
He added, "What I want to focus on is, is it going to offer the consumer a competitive value when it comes out? And the answer is," wait for it, "absolutely."
Pressed for further info on a price, Fils-Aime was having none of it. "You're talking price and I'm talking value," he said.
"What I'm saying is that it's going to have a fantastic value - value defined as what you get, all of these great new experiences for what you pay, is going to be absolutely competitive."
Shigeru Miyamoto has blamed the perception of Nintendo as a casual game maker on the decision not to support HD gaming with the original Wii.
At the same time his boss, Satoru Iwata, acknowledged that the 86 million-selling console was not "able to cater to every gamer's needs" – with Wii U the company's attempt to "resolve" this.
The comments came in the latest massive Iwata Asks chinwag between the pair.
Miyamoto said: "One of the key reasons that such things as the core and the casual exist today is that we decided not to adopt HD on the Wii console."
"I'm sure everyone would agree that we tried really hard to go wider," Iwata added. "But even though we worked aggressively to go deeper in certain areas, the general public's impression that Nintendo was casual grew as time went by."
Nintendo has a problem.
They got shat upon for not being HD with the Wii so they added HD to Wii U. They noticed iPad is their biggest competitor now so they created tablet-like controler. Wii U seems like a patchwork... no clear vision. Wiimote defined the Wii and it was a GREAT SUCCESS, we have to admit it.
Wii U is... not even like Wii. It's Wii minus the originality, minus the creativity.
Wii created history and was copied by MS and Sony. Wii U copies from MS, Sony and Apple.
Why does every Nintendo console reveal feel like an apology for the last one?
Nintendo has a problem.
They got shat upon for not being HD with the Wii so they added HD to Wii U. They noticed iPad is their biggest competitor now so they created tablet-like controler. Wii U seems like a patchwork... no clear vision. Wiimote defined the Wii and it was a GREAT SUCCESS, we have to admit it.
Wii U is... not even like Wii. It's Wii minus the originality, minus the creativity.
Wii created history and was copied by MS and Sony. Wii U copies from MS, Sony and Apple.
He added, "What I want to focus on is, is it going to offer the consumer a competitive value when it comes out? And the answer is," wait for it, "absolutely."
Pressed for further info on a price, Fils-Aime was having none of it. "You're talking price and I'm talking value," he said.
It's interesting that while MS is 'taking away the controller', Nintenho is putting the player back on the couch with a bigger controller.:teehee
It won't surprise me if Vita will have some of the same integration with the PS3.
Speaking to Develop, president of Sony Computer Entertainment’s Worldwide Studios Shuhei Yoshida has revealed he is interested by Nintendo's recently announced Wii U, and said it will likely inspire Vita developers to carry out experiments with the newly named Sony handheld.
"It is very interesting the ways that Nintendo went with Wii U, and I was surprised it wasn't exactly as it had been rumoured," Yoshida told Develop at E3.
"Already people are starting to ask about linking Vita and PS3 to do something similar, in terms of using two screens, and having controls on the screen.
"That's very interesting, and we will have to experiment," he added, before suggesting that such work was already, to a certain extent, underway.
"Lots of the things that developers of Vita games are doing, as you may have seen, is experimenting with connectivities between Vita and PS3.
"The Wipeout [2048] team came up with their cross play ideas, and the other Vita teams have come up with ways of playing with two systems. It's just a matter of time, as we provide the SDKs to developers so they can make use of both PS3 and Vita, and they might come up with something interesting."
Price will be "competitive". Probably higher than Wii because it offers more "value".
Nintendo doesn't want to lose a single dime on it, like Sony on Vita.
Don't expect any new information on Smash Bros. 3DS or Wii U soon - series director Masahiro Sakurai has admitted that development hasn't started yet.
Satoru Iwata announced the project last night during Nintendo's E3 press conference. But Sakurai has suggested Iwata jumped the gun.
"We really shouldn't have announced it for the general public at this timing," Sakurai tweeted (translated by Andriasang). "But since we have to assemble staff, we made the notice. The future will change depending on the strength of the gathered developers."
Development won't start until the completion of Kid Icarus Uprising at the end of this year, Sakurai said.
Nintendo has a problem.
They got shat upon for not being HD with the Wii so they added HD to Wii U. They noticed iPad is their biggest competitor now so they created tablet-like controler. Wii U seems like a patchwork... no clear vision. Wiimote defined the Wii and it was a GREAT SUCCESS, we have to admit it.
Wii U is... not even like Wii. It's Wii minus the originality, minus the creativity.
Wii created history and was copied by MS and Sony. Wii U copies from MS, Sony and Apple.
fix their problems in Japan (small living rooms with maybe only 1 TV
Y'all are sounding exactly as you did when that huge bomba the "wii" was revealed. Just sayin'.
Y'all are sounding exactly as you did when that huge bomba the "wii" was revealed. Just sayin'.
While I do agree that hardcore forum types (myself included) always tend to miss the mark on things aimed at mainstream audiences, I do think this one isn't quite as easy of a slamdunk as the original Wii was. There was a real buzz on the Wii. Kind of a right place at the right time with the right message. I bought one first day.
Of course this could all be a bit of this.
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rmUZQrvF5o[/youtube]
Y'all are sounding exactly as you did about the wii's market prospects when it was revealed. Just sayin'.
WiiU really just needs a wii sports kinda game/phenomenon
Y'all are sounding exactly as you did about the wii's market prospects when it was revealed. Just sayin'.
Not me.
As soon it was announced I knew that it would sell truckloads,same goes for Kinect.
Wii U is confusing me,target audience is not clearly defined...need more data
I still don't understand the choice to use analog sliders instead of analog sticks
I still don't understand the choice to use analog sliders instead of analog sticks
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylyXEMPaVHQ[/youtube]
:teehee
Gundam we are talking about a fanbase that has said repeatedly for the past 5 years,"fuck hd" and now that they have hd they're spooging out of their noses.
Nintendo shares have fallen after the reveal.
Now is the time to BUY BUY BUY because Wiiu is going to sell GANGBUSTERS.
I really don't get anything that went on at Nintendo coming up with this.
This seems desperate.
If the WiiU was a handheld that can stream wirelesly to your tv then it could have been something the ipad crowd would like...but now....I don't get it at all.Nintendo shares have fallen after the reveal.
Now is the time to BUY BUY BUY because Wiiu is going to sell GANGBUSTERS.
Think its time to sell sell sell before they plummet after 3DS bombs further and WiiU does the same.
hopefully their experience with 3ds will teach them a thing or two about priceYou know it won't, N are greedy fucking pricks.
Am I the only one who didn't think the Zelda HD stuff looked all that impressive? I mean, it was nice and all, but nothing all that different from anything else this current generation.
http://wiiuwiiu.ytmnd.com/
flawless victory
It's interesting that while MS is 'taking away the controller', Nintenho is putting the player back on the couch with a bigger controller.
Their last system was basically called Piss and sold like mad, who's to say Siren Noise won't be a global phenomenon? :teeheehttp://wiiuwiiu.ytmnd.com/
flawless victory
quoting for page 3
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Uh oh. First screen of an actual Wii U game in action. Early or not, this aint looking good at all.
1st party games aside, all these next gen console games are going to look pretty much like whatever the Weeoo is capable of.
Some of the other shots look better:
1st party games aside, all these next gen console games are going to look pretty much like whatever the Weeoo is capable of.
er, no. :teehee
Some of the other shots look better:
Not by much.
And lol at GAF going into defense mode. I'm sure this isn't anywhere near what the Wii U is capable of but lets call a fucking spade a spade. This looks like shit right now, end of story. All these ntards going on about "sounds interesting!" would be singing a different tune if this was some XBLA game...which it resembles right now.
WiiU's Haze
If this was announced as a 360/PS3 game no one would care (and rightly so).
oh, and no Gamecube backwards compatibility. Odd omission, but maybe they have an online store or something.
They probably just don't want to keep the ports in and are too lazy to code the way GC playback works any differently. That said, Nintendo usually ditches the BC for the system before with a new system, and I can't rule out that part of why they do that might be to start building demand for eventual re-releases.
Updated 2011 version featuring ICP
Nintendo employees get mad when you call it Weeooooooooo
How will FPSes be played on this? Where's the "better than KB&M" remote tracking?
This reveal is full of questions.
IBM's embedded dynamic random access memory (test chip shown here) will help deliver a thrilling new game experience to Nintendo fans. The new memory technology, a key element of the new Power microprocessor that IBM is building for the Nintendo Wii U console, can triple the amount of memory contained on a single chip, making for extreme game play.
How will FPSes be played on this? Where's the "better than KB&M" remote tracking?
This reveal is full of questions.
If it's not in the box,then they can forget about dev support.
Uh borys. The Wii U still supports the Wiimote. If that's your kind of thing.
It's Borys. And the Wiimote is not included in the system. That's the mistake part.
It looks like Fisher Price's My First iPad.
"That's really driven by the hardware, and the original Wii games were built for a specific type of hardware. There's no mechanism to quote-unquote 'up-res' that unless we launch a brand-new game." - Reggie Fils-Aime
It looks like Fisher Price's My First iPad.
Yeah, considering that other folks have shown that it's possible via pc Nintendo is full of fucking bullshit on this. :mafQuote"That's really driven by the hardware, and the original Wii games were built for a specific type of hardware. There's no mechanism to quote-unquote 'up-res' that unless we launch a brand-new game." - Reggie Fils-Aime
guess you guys will have to keep sticking to the dolphin :teehee
Lol silly Reggie
We have been running Nintendo games at obscenely high resolutions since UltraHLE
“The multi-core architecture of the console is a natural fit for our in-house HD engines, such as the Anvil engine used for Assassin’s Creed,” explained Marc Parenteau, Technical Architect at Ubisoft’s Quebec studio.
He continued, “In addition, the large memory capacity of the console will be used to bring performance enhancements, such as pre-calculating data or increasing our cache sizes.”
really if information hadn't leaked before the press conference, the Wii U would just seem like a controller accessory to the Wii. They were showing off Wii Sports, called it a new controller, and didn't mention the console at all. It wasn't until the tech demos and 360 games that it seemed to be a different console.
fwiw, the Wii U as a console looks alright. The original Wii is just a really dense and angular rectangle.
Not really.
- France24.com reported that Nintendo showed a new handheld system that can be connected to your TV
- one of my colleagues (who is a 360/ Kinect) gamer thought this was a new peripherial (like the Ballance Board)
Nintendo really dropped the ball in communicating what Wii U clearly is.
Yeah, official word, just as promised. And I'm none the wiser: http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2011-wii-u/716198 (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2011-wii-u/716198)
There won't be a "centralized, one size fits all online gaming approach". Instead, they'll leave it to 3rd parties and will try to support their visions. Whatever that's supposed to mean. I know publishers love their weird little systems like Cerberus, Social Club, UPlay, CoD Elite and what not, but what about the stuff that has to be system level, like cross game chat and invites and stuff like that? And what about small developers and publishers who don't have their own system in place?
The Zelda demo, or "HD Experience" as Nintendo calls it, is almost certainly running at a native resolution of 720p, with no anti-aliasing and seems to be locked at 30 frames per second with v-sync engaged (subsequently verified with a good look at a 60Hz feed taken from G4's broadcast coverage of the event). It's a good demo, but as Oli says, it's very difficult to see this as anything other than affirmation that Nintendo's technical vision of the next generation is to effectively match the rendering performance of what's in the marketplace already. Once again, the platform holder is relying on ingenious controller-based concepts rather than cutting-edge tech.http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-e3-nintendo
Video and screenshot assets that have been released to date all show the same 720p resolution with no anti-aliasing. Bearing in mind the limited nature of the demos, the lack of any kind of edge-smoothing is a bit of a puzzle, especially bearing in mind the simplicity of the software. Multi-sampling anti-aliasing is hardware based, Nintendo should be able to just turn it on. Quite why they haven't is a bit of a mystery, especially bearing in mind how many of their titles emphasise good, clean 3D visuals that would benefit significantly by being jaggie-free.
In terms of other stuff we gleaned from checking out the E3 showing, there were displays showing both the main feed running on an HDTV, and then a secondary monitor depicting the content being beamed to the controller. What is interesting here is that the demo included a simulation of gameplay switching over from one display to the other. In this case, the game appeared to be switching resolution, rather than downscaling from HD as PS3 and 360 titles tend to when the consoles are set to 576p or 480p. This opens up the very real possibility that games with performance issues when running on an HDTV could actually run more smoothly when played on the tablet.
In terms of how powerful Wii U actually is, aside from the occasional 1080p claim, Nintendo has made no effort to put any kind of distance between it and the current generation HD consoles, and it's fair to say that the demos back this up. There is still discussion amongst fans of an enthusiast-level gaming GPU in the machine, but the fact that the Wii U itself is quite small would present some serious heat dissipation issues - the pre-production units photographed at E3 certainly possess a lot more vents than the original Wii. Curiously, the diminutive form factor of the console itself tells us far more about the potential power of the machine than Nintendo's own spec sheet.
As it is, we now have direct confirmation that Wii U features a 45nm, power efficient, IBM multi-core processor based on POWER architecture, but almost nothing about the make-up of the Radeon GPU. Factoring in the lack of differentiation between Wii U and the current generation consoles, it's likely that Nintendo has put a great deal of investment into the controller and will be looking to make the base unit as cheap to produce as possible.
At this point we're speculating, but our guess is that Wii U's RAM is based on GDDR3 or DDR3 - far more cost efficient than the top-end GDDR5 and the hitherto non-existent DDR4. In terms of the make-up of AMD's custom Radeon GPU, we reckon it probably has more in common with the Radeon HD 4650/4670 as opposed to anything more exotic. The 320 stream processors on those chips would have more than enough power to support 360 and PS3 level visuals, especially in a closed-box system. Fabricated on AMD's current 40nm process, it would be cool enough and cheap enough, but the 2012 launch may well mean that Nintendo could move directly to 28nm, making for a more cost-efficient, cooler box.
There won't be a "centralized, one size fits all online gaming approach". Instead, they'll leave it to 3rd parties and will try to support their visions. Whatever that's supposed to mean. I know publishers love their weird little systems like Cerberus, Social Club, UPlay, CoD Elite and what not, but what about the stuff that has to be system level, like cross game chat and invites and stuff like that? And what about small developers and publishers who don't have their own system in place?
QuoteThere won't be a "centralized, one size fits all online gaming approach". Instead, they'll leave it to 3rd parties and will try to support their visions.
Nintendo living in 2002 ? that's refreshing!
The nintendo fanboys on gaf are out of control. It's better to just ignore. As someone who has been posting on forums for many, many years, this is probably the worst show of blind company shilling I have ever seen. I'm honestly confused about what these people are.
Are they posting to convince others to support the company?
Are they posting to convince themselves to keep supporting the company?
Or worse, do they actually believe what they're posting, like, down to their core?
The fascinating thing is that, you talk about sports with others, and they're not coy about their favorite sports team. Even republicans and creationists take a stance. But with video game companies, there is a false air of objectivity backed by illogical data that are supposed to validate an opinion.
It's not just Nintendo fans. This morning I opened gaf, saw a post about how the Vita should win because it has the most inputs, and my brain kinda went "oh fuck you for trying to make me process this"
So..what do y'all homo erecti think of the Japanese garden demo? Anything in there that shows any significant jump from a high level 360/PS3 game?
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Reggie: 1
EB: 0
:bow
hunh, the main character of dark souls looks like a gay elf
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Reggie: 1
EB: 0
:bow
It looks like power supply will be external.
Wuu will be annihilated next year
Sony--PS3(4) PS Vita combo,Vita can be easily used as game menu,map,etc and it won't stop working if you leave the room
MS-Xbox Live integrated into Windows 8(tablets,phones) and if they release some cradle with proper analogs,buttons,etc=boom
call it weeeoooo or i'll rip your lungs out!
'wu' sounds too cool
also that last bit sounds like a gaming feature, MS doesn't do games anymore.
I really really hate to say this but
I think Nintendo needs to lose Miyamoto
at least as anything other than a game director/producer
i guarantee a huge chunk of the "wtf" decisions they make (which is to say the ones not necessarily motivated by cost) are a result of his royal weirdness's quirks
Wii U will be HD, supporting up to 1080p resolution just like Xbox 360 and PS3, but beyond that it's unclear how powerful the hardware will ultimately be when it ships sometime next year. Nintendo never provides a full breakdown, although the company did say that the form factor is "near final." While many assumed Wii U would be on par with the current HD consoles, word is coming in from developers that it's quite a bit more powerful.Ok,no more Wuu
Sterne Agee analyst Arvind Bhatia commented today, "Some of the developers we spoke to indicated to us that the console will have 50% more processing power compared to the PlayStation 3 or Xbox 360. This is yet to be confirmed by Nintendo."
At E3 last week, Nintendo did little to prove this point. During the press conference, footage of Xbox 360 and PS3 titles was used, although the company did show off an impressive tech demo of a bird flying around some trees, and Nintendo also created a very pretty tech demo to represent what a new Zelda might look like.
The following response comes from Michel Ancel when he was asked whether or not he views Wii U as a next-gen machine...
"Not really. I think Wii U is next-gen in terms of interface. I think people are going to copy it, because you've got this mix between tablet, touch screen and big screen – big screen and little screen - there are a lot of possibilities. I don't know if Sony will do it, or Microsoft – but yes, I think it's a possibility. But I think the main thing is to have this – offering new ways to play is very interesting."
All of his decisions are usually integral to their hardware/software/product's success. So I don't see how this would be a good idea. For reference sake, one of his earlier ideas was to split pokemon up into differing versions, which certainly contributed to the game's social aspect. I can't remember all the little things he has inputted over the years, but many of you seem to forget how stupidly popular the wii/ds were this past gen. Apparently SOMEONE out there liked the hardware decisions.
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Although the 'blow air' mechanic in DKCR was fucking stupid. I'm over it though.
I remember Nintendo's success quite well, thanks. But as much as Miyamoto is responsible for some of this stuff, he's also responsible for things like Nintendo's online system being pathetically out of date, Nintendo's production values being ten years behind, Nintendo's digital shop being a fucking disaster, Nintendo not getting on the ball with proven systems like achievements/trophies, etc.
The people at Nintendo aren't stupid. Every time Nintendo fails to meet the bar on something, it's not because they lack the ability. It's either because of cost (which is a separate problem for Nintendo; while I generally think fiscal conservatism is a wiser course of action than what Sony or MS do, Nintendo pushes it too far and it kind of bit them in the ass with the way the Wii fell out so fast), or because that quirky fellow Miyamoto veto'd the idea. I'm not against him being in charge of software where he can continue to make decisions like splitting up Pokeymans, but the guy really should have almost no input on Nintendo's hardware and associated features. The road he is sending Nintendo down is going to really fuck the company in the long run.
here's the thing...
if you can use multiple screen controllers on the Weeeoooo then i can see there's a good few good local multiplayer games you can bring in. D+D, Warhammer, etc - those sort of games would rule. Hell, pokemon as well.
if it ends up you can only use 1 controller? You can use it to show a map, or inventory.... it's a nicety, it's not a game changer. Oh and novelty games... for one player #sadface. Also if they are going to have you need a waggle stick and the WeeeoooPad then that's moving away from what sold the Wii to millions of non gamers. "It's Tennis!" "How do i play?!" <swishes controller like bat> "Ooooooo! neato!"
At the moment this machine just looks like one massive f*ck up. 3DS scrapped next year. GameBoy Nexus for winter 2012.
here's the thing...
if you can use multiple screen controllers on the Weeeoooo then i can see there's a good few good local multiplayer games you can bring in. D+D, Warhammer, etc - those sort of games would rule. Hell, pokemon as well.
if it ends up you can only use 1 controller? You can use it to show a map, or inventory.... it's a nicety, it's not a game changer. Oh and novelty games... for one player #sadface. Also if they are going to have you need a waggle stick and the WeeeoooPad then that's moving away from what sold the Wii to millions of non gamers. "It's Tennis!" "How do i play?!" <swishes controller like bat> "Ooooooo! neato!"
At the moment this machine just looks like one massive f*ck up. 3DS scrapped next year. GameBoy Nexus for winter 2012.
Sony is totally going to rip this design off too, but make it more functional in the process. Playstation ME will have 4 controller support and a HD multi touch screen alongside graphics capability that will crush what Nintendo has to offer. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeoooooooooo will be shamed in no time.
As for the production values thing, no, it's a lot more than just not being HD. They are way behind even middle-ground developers on things like voice acting, motion capture, CG, and sound production. For some of their franchises, it doesn't matter, but then you get something like Metroid: Other M, where those kinds of skills would have been a boon to the type of product they were shooting for, and it's just fucking embarrassing.
Oh, I wouldn't call it hubris in the traditional sense. But he has lived a very lucky and very sheltered life. Almost immediately from graduating University, he became a "superstar" and that status has never been lifted. He's never had to look outside of himself to find success. I think the end result is that there's a sort of naivety or ignorance about him with regards to things outside his immediate circle.
"So it's like iPad then? But I can't go to bed/ toilet with it? What bullshit... pass."
Sucks to be Nintendo in the following years.
PS3 games locationfree within your house should work , maps etc and multi control? Definitely. Hell, i expect games to support the PSV as a controller, there's no reason for it not to.
Mario HD
Zelda HD
Metroid HD (fps, none of that Other Shit crap)
Yup, I'm interested.
Microsoft is gearing up to announce the successor to the Xbox 360 at E3 2012, and Crytek is already developing a new TimeSplitters game for the next generation of consoles, VideoGamer.com can reveal.
Specifications for the new machine have not been finalised, but Crytek is using Microsoft's DirectX 11 as the current basis for next-generation development. Tessellation, multithreaded rendering, and compute shaders are the three headlining features for DirectX 11.
The Crysis 2 developer says that Microsoft will announce the existence of a new Xbox within the next 12 months, hinting that an E3 2012 reveal is likely. Crytek believes that Microsoft will announce and launch its new machine ahead of rival Sony, though the developer is also investing resources into next-generation PlayStation development.
The information was detailed to VideoGamer.com by a high-ranking industry source at Crytek, who stated that TimeSplitters 4 is currently being demonstrated internally, is being built with CryEngine 3, and was being shown privately in video form at E3 2011.
Crytek UK, who produced the other three games in the series as Free Radical, is still handling the development.
Both Microsoft and Crytek declined to comment.
The source reports that the graphics on TimeSplitters 4 are noticeably improved over current generation technology, with the DX11 tessellation effects allegedly having a huge impact on the visuals. Crytek believes that the game - and CryEngine 3 itself - will be seen as the cornerstone of next-generation development.
Crytek has invested heavily in DirectX 11 development primarily to focus on the new consoles, with the upcoming DX11 patch for the PC version of Crysis 2 being used internally as a benchmark of anticipated hardware trends.
As for the game itself, the new TimeSplitters is reported to focus on the series' branching paths and exploratory nature, with sandbox-style gameplay elements a big priority. The current goal is for levels to feature multiple routes that lead to the same overall conclusion.
PS3 games locationfree within your house should work , maps etc and multi control? Definitely. Hell, i expect games to support the PSV as a controller, there's no reason for it not to.
Nintendo has a problem.
They got shat upon for not being HD with the Wii so they added HD to Wii U. They noticed iPad is their biggest competitor now so they created tablet-like controler. Wii U seems like a patchwork... no clear vision. Wiimote defined the Wii and it was a GREAT SUCCESS, we have to admit it.
Wii U is... not even like Wii. It's Wii minus the originality, minus the creativity.
Wii created history and was copied by MS and Sony. Wii U copies from MS, Sony and Apple.
There is one thing that makes me curious,at Ubisoft vid it was "please turn off Wifi,etc"--maybe Nintendo Weeoo tech is based on common solutions and not something like Wireless HD.
There is one thing that makes me curious,at Ubisoft vid it was "please turn off Wifi,etc"--maybe Nintendo Weeoo tech is based on common solutions and not something like Wireless HD.
You mean they are trying to cheap out on hardware? Well I for one am shocked
PS3's bluetooth 2.0 + EDR should, in theory be able to stream a 960x544 image at low latency. And there's no need for wii eww to stream HD to the controller right since its screen isn't HD?
I thought the Wii U tablet was wired?
The Wii U cannot play DVDs or Blu-rays, Nintendo has confirmed.
Why? Because you've already got machines that play them.
"Wii U does not have DVD or Blu-ray playback capabilities," president Satoru Iwata told investors.
"The reason for that is that we feel that enough people already have devices that are capable of playing DVDs and Blu-ray, such that it didn't warrant the cost involved to build that functionality into the Wii U console because of the patents related to those technologies."
Instead, the Wii U, out next year, features a single self-loading media bay that plays 12-centimetre proprietary high-density optical discs, as well as 12-centimetre Wii optical discs.
At an extensive analyst Q&A during last week's E3 event, Nintendo president Satoru Iwata addressed concerns ranging from attracting core gamers to the Wii U to the system's online capabilities.
Iwata used the question and answer session to reiterate and strengthen many points from the Wii U's unveiling last Tuesday, including the company's desire for more support from third-party developers on the Wii U.
While the wide-ranging briefing focused on Nintendo's newly announced system, it also touched on the slow sales of the recently launched 3DS and slowing sales for current Wii hardware.
Here are some key takeaways from a transcript of Iwata's remarks provided by Nintendo.
On Wii U's Online Capabilities
"What I have come to feel lately is that the idea of saying, 'we are going to create this style of online structure and that we would like you, the developers, to fit into the online structure that we are creating' is perhaps already out-of-date. I think that Nintendo's past console business has often included this idea of a set and fixed online structure. So, I think that, going forward, the question is really to what degree Nintendo can create a more flexible system for its consoles."
"And, what we found at this point is that, as we discuss the online structure with different publishers, the things that the different publishers want to do are in fact seemingly rather different. Our current direction is how we can take the desires of the third parties and create a system that's flexible enough to enable them to do the types of things that they might want to do."
On Attracting Both Casual And Core Players To The Wii U
"We believe novice players, who started playing games as casual players (since there is no one who is inherently a core gamer), come to have a budding interest in games and spend a greater amount of time with gameplay so that they mature into core gamers. What we have tried to do with the Wii U console is to create an environment where we can break down the barrier that exists between those two groups and provide, on a single console, an experience that will satisfy both types of users. Through that process we continue to expand the gaming population."
On Transitioning The Market From Wii To Wii U
"Because the majority of the people who will purchase the Wii U system initially already own the Wii system, I don't think that the information about the Wii U system launch taking place next year will affect the sales of the Wii system. Of course, the ideal scenario for Nintendo would be that if people are considering purchasing another HD video game console, then knowing that they will have opportunity to purchase Wii U when it is released next year, they perhaps might delay their purchase of a console."
On Attracting Third Party Titles To The System
"Within the current environment, there are a number of the companies that are spending a significant amount to create these first-person shooters but, with the graphics capabilities of the Wii hardware, we have not been able to get them to create Wii versions of key franchises, and they have developed few games of that genre with Wii as the primary gaming console."
"So, some of the hardware limitations that have been a hurdle for those developers to create their games on our console, are going to melt away when we move to Wii U because it is an HD system."
On How Nintendo Will Cooperate With Third Party Developers
"There are some [situations] where we can offer [third-party developers] support or where we can divide up some responsibilities and cooperate in that sense. There is also the ability to cooperate from the marketing standpoint."
On Relative Sales Expectations For Wii U
"Of course, I understand that it will not be easy for the new console to surpass Wii in sales. But we do believe that this is a challenge that we can take head-on, and if we didn't believe that, then we wouldn't be proposing this style of new system."
On Deciding Not To Include DVD Playback Capabilities In The Wii U
"Wii U does not have DVD or Blu-ray playback capabilities. The reason for that is that we feel that enough people already have devices that are capable of playing DVDs and Blu-ray, such that it didn't warrant the cost involved to build that functionality into the Wii U console because of the patents related to those technologies."
On Connecting To Outside Social Networks
"After examining the penetration and adoption rate of social networking services like Facebook, etc., we've come to the conclusion that we are no longer in a period where we cannot have any connection at all with social networking services."
"Rather, I think we've come to an era where it's important to consider how the social graph of the social networking services can work in conjunction with something like a video game platform."
On Turning Around The Slow Initial Sales For The 3DS
"What we have analyzed up to this point is that the initial move by the early adopters has not translated into broader movement by the broader market in the ways that we had expected."
"The current situation resulted from the fact that the delay of developing Nintendo 3DS software and launching online services, like Nintendo eShop, 3D video services and so forth, occurred simultaneously, so we could not meet people's high expectations that they had before its launch, and we did not see momentum after the launch."
"I think that we'll be able to show you that as Nintendo eShop and 3D video services come online, and a number of key software titles become available, we'll be able to regain momentum for this hardware."
On Competition From Mobile And Social Games
"Personally, I don't feel that there is competition or threat from mobile games for our video game business from the sense that, even before mobile games appeared, it's always been the nature of our job to continue to offer new experiences that players can't have on other devices, and that, as long as we can continue to do that, the consumer will want to play our games, but what we are sensitive to is the notion of the sense of value and what consumers are willing to pay for games."
On The Possibility Of Using Two Touchscreen Wii U Controllers At Once
"Regardless of the technical question as to whether or not we could do that (use two of the new controllers), for the time being, we will focus on what we can do with a single new controller with the system."
"In the future, we may look at what other opportunities there are for gameplay and, how having two of those controllers might create fun or interesting new styles of play, but of course in doing that, it would require a consumer to purchase an additional controller. Therefore, we would need to carefully consider how we could create such an experience and, potentially, how we could ensure that there would be enough value within that experience for the consumer to accept that cost and make that purchase."
"Regardless of the technical question as to whether or not we could do that (use two of the new controllers), for the time being, we will focus on what we can do with a single new controller with the system."
(http://www.abload.de/img/yuwiiulolgk9u.jpg):lol :lol :lol
"What I have come to feel lately is that the idea of saying, 'we are going to create this style of online structure and that we would like you, the developers, to fit into the online structure that we are creating' is perhaps already out-of-date. I think that Nintendo's past console business has often included this idea of a set and fixed online structure. So, I think that, going forward, the question is really to what degree Nintendo can create a more flexible system for its consoles."
"And, what we found at this point is that, as we discuss the online structure with different publishers, the things that the different publishers want to do are in fact seemingly rather different. Our current direction is how we can take the desires of the third parties and create a system that's flexible enough to enable them to do the types of things that they might want to do."
"So, some of the hardware limitations that have been a hurdle for those developers to create their games on our console, are going to melt away when we move to Wii U because it is an HD system."
"There are some [situations] where we can offer [third-party developers] support or where we can divide up some responsibilities and cooperate in that sense. There is also the ability to cooperate from the marketing standpoint."
"Wii U does not have DVD or Blu-ray playback capabilities. The reason for that is that we feel that enough people already have devices that are capable of playing DVDs and Blu-ray, such that it didn't warrant the cost involved to build that functionality into the Wii U console because of the patents related to those technologies."
Be honest experiment, how many things in your abode play dvds?
Be honest Emcee how many devices do you own that already play Darksiders 2?
Be honest experiment, how many things in your abode play dvds?
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Don't lie Magus. You know you want another generation of Nintendo's whimsy
It would add $50 to the price. I dont need bluray for movies.
It would add $50 to the price. I dont need bluray for movies.
Bullshit. If Nintendo announced that they'd be putting in Bluray movie capability in Wii U, you'd be shitting your Pampers in excitement. Don't lie to us.
It would add $50 to the price. I dont need bluray for movies.
Bullshit. If Nintendo announced that they'd be putting in Bluray movie capability in Wii U, you'd be shitting your Pampers in excitement. Don't lie to us.
I am getting a really weird apologetic vibe from Nintendo on all of their comments. This may not turn out well
According to a Wii U white paper published by Hit Detection, the consulting company founded by former Newsweek journalist N'Gai Croal, the kits in developers' hands are just not up to current-gen snuff, but they are working.
Developers have underclocked development kits, and worked hard to deliver titles running on that hardware to demonstrate live at E3. However, due to titles not looking much better than what is currently available on Xbox 360 and the PS3, Nintendo decided late in the game to not show those titles and focus instead on tech demos. In particular, THQ stated that Darksiders II was running on development hardware and could have been shown. Also, Epic vice president Mark Rein tweeted during E3 that Gearbox's Aliens: Colonial Marines was being made for Wii U with Unreal Engine 3, showing that Epic is bringing its tech to Wii U.
The 41 Nintendo 64 games that have sold or shipped at least one million copies.
Super Mario 64 (11.62 million)[1][2]
Mario Kart 64 (9 million)[3]
GoldenEye 007 (8 million)[4][5]
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (7.6 million)[6]
Super Smash Bros. (5 million)[7]
Diddy Kong Racing (4.434 million approximately: 3.78 million in US and PAL,[8] 653,928 in Japan)[9]
Pokémon Stadium (3.971 million approximately: 3.16 million in US,[10] 710,765 in Japan,[9] 100,000 in UK)[11]
Donkey Kong 64 (3.77 million approximately: 2.67 million in US,[10] 1.1 million in Japan)[12]
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (3.36 million)[6]
Star Fox 64 (3.325 million approximately: 2.76 million in US,[10] 565,222 in Japan)[9]
Banjo-Tooie (3 million)[13]
Pokémon Snap (2.718 million approximately: 2.22 million in US,[10] 498,155 in Japan)[9]
Perfect Dark (2.5 million)[5]
Mario Party 2 (2.33 million approximately: 1.26 million in US,[10] 1.07 million in Japan)[12]
Banjo-Kazooie (2.256 million approximately: 1.85 million in US,[10] 405,944 in Japan)[9]
Pokémon Stadium 2 (2.15 million approximately: 1.14 million in Japan,[12] 1.01 million in US)[10]
Wave Race 64 (2.105 million approximately: 1.95 million in US,[10] 154,682 in Japan)[9]
Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire (2.008 million approximately: 1.98 million in US,[10] 28,038 in Japan)[9]
Yoshi's Story (1.953 million approximately: 1.1 million in US,[10] 852,846 in Japan)[9]
Mario Party (1.944 million approximately: 1.23 million in US,[10] 714,358 in Japan)[9]
WCW/nWo Revenge (1.88 million in US)[10]
Star Wars: Episode I Racer (1.798 million approximately: 1.71 million in US,[10] 87,826 in Japan)[9]
Mario Tennis (1.76 million approximately, 1.1 million in Japan, [12] 669,958 in US)[14]
Cruis'n USA (1.68 million in US)[10]
Mario Party 3 (1.64 million approximately, 1.02 million in Japan, [12] 624,468 in US)[14]
Star Wars: Rogue Squadron (1.634 million approximately: 1.59 million in US,[10] 44,337 in Japan)[9]
Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards (1.611 million approximately: 1.07 million in Japan,[12]541,600 in US)[14]
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater (1.61 million in US)[10]
Hey You, Pikachu! (1.46 million approximately, 744,870 in Japan, 721,720 in US)[14]
Pokémon Stadium (Japan) (1.37 million in Japan)[8][12]
WCW vs. nWo: World Tour (1.3 million in US)[10]
1080° Snowboarding (1.254 million approximately: 1.23 million in US,[10] 23,908 in Japan)[9]
WWF No Mercy (1.19 million in US)[10]
Turok 2: Seeds of Evil (1.154 million approximately: 1.14 million in US,[10] 13,683 in Japan;[9] 1.4 million shipped)[15]
WWF WrestleMania 2000 (1.14 million in US)[10]
The World Is Not Enough (1.08 million in US)[10]
Namco Museum 64 (1.04 million in US)[10]
Mario Golf (1.005 million approximately: 534,283 in US, 470,779 in Japan)[14]
Kobe Bryant in NBA Courtside (1 million)[16][17]
Pilotwings 64 (1 million)[18]
Turok: Dinosaur Hunter (1 million)[17
Nintendo GameCube games that have sold or shipped at least one million copies.
Super Smash Bros. Melee (7.21 million)[1]
Mario Kart: Double Dash (7 million approximately)[2]
Super Mario Sunshine (5.9 million)[2]
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (4.6 million)[2]
Luigi's Mansion (2.639 million approximately: 2.19 million in US,[3] 348,918 in Japan,[4] 100,000 in UK)[5]
Animal Crossing (2.321 million approximately: 1.68 million in US,[3] 641,300 in Japan)[4]
Mario Party 4 (2.003 million approximately: 1.1 million in US,[3] 902,827 in Japan)[4]
Metroid Prime (2 million)[6]
Pokémon Colosseum (1.806 million approximately: 1.15 million in US,[3] 656,270 in Japan)[4]
Sonic Adventure 2: Battle (1.732 million approximately: 1.44 million in US,[3] 192,186 in Japan,[4]100,000 in UK)[5]
Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (1.64 million approximately: 1.23 million in US,[3] 409,600 in Japan)[4]
Resident Evil 4 (1.6 million)[7]
Mario Party 5 (1.505 million approximately: 807,331 in US,[8] 697,462 in Japan)[4]
Sonic Mega Collection (1.453 million approximately: 1.38 million in US,[3] 72,967 in Japan)[4]
Resident Evil (1.35 million)[7]
Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness (1.25 million)[9]
Resident Evil Zero (1.25 million)[7]
Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour (1.223 million approximately: 1.03 million in US,[3] 192,802 in Japan)[4]
Super Mario Strikers (1.2 million)[9]
Pikmin (1.18 million approximately: 680,000 in US,[10] 507,011 in Japan)[4]
Kirby Air Ride (1.172 million approximately: 750,000 in US,[11] 422,311 in Japan)[4]
Soulcalibur II (1.099 approximately: 1 million in US,[3] 99,256 in Japan)[4]
Star Fox Adventures (1.08 million approximately: 800,000 in US,[12] 259,069 in Japan)[4]
Mario Party 6 (1 million)[13][14
This is a list of Wii video games that have sold or shipped at least one million copies, sorted in order of copies sold. As of March 2011, there are 103 Wii video games that have sold over 1 million units
Wii Sports (76.76 million)[2]*
Wii Sports Resort (27.68 million)[2]*
Wii Play (27.38 million)[3]*
Mario Kart Wii (27.00 million)[2]*
Wii Fit (22.61 million)[3]*
New Super Mario Bros. Wii (21.94 million)[2]
Wii Fit Plus (18.49 million)[2]
Super Smash Bros. Brawl (9.48 million)[3]
Super Mario Galaxy (8.84 million)[4]
Mario Party 8 (7.6 million)[5]
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games (7.09 million)[6]
Super Mario Galaxy 2 (6.36 million)[2]
Wii Party (5.77 million)[2]
Just Dance 2 (5 million)[7]
Donkey Kong Country Returns (4.98 million)[2]
Link's Crossbow Training (4.80 million)[3]*
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (4.52 million)[8]
Just Dance (4.3 million)[9]
Animal Crossing: City Folk (3.38 million)[4]*
Wii Music (2.65 million)[4]
Super Paper Mario (2.28 million)[8]
Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree (2.26 million)[8]
Super Mario All-Stars 25th Anniversary Edition (2.24 million)[2]
Michael Jackson: The Experience (2 million)[7]
Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock (2 million)[10]*
Deca Sports (2 million shipped)[11]
Game Party (2 million shipped)[12]
Monster Hunter Tri (1.9 million)[13]
Punch-Out!! (1.86 million)[14]
WarioWare: Smooth Moves (1.82 million)[15]
EA Sports Active (1.8 million)[16]
Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition (1.8 million)[13]
Mario Strikers Charged (1.77 million)[8]
Kirby's Epic Yarn (1.59 million)[2]
Mario Sports Mix (1.54 million)[2]
Carnival Games (1.5 million)[17]
Guitar Hero World Tour (1.334 million)[18]*
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption (1.31 million)[8]
Epic Mickey (1.3 million)[19]
Mario Super Sluggers (1.26 million)[4]
Pokémon Battle Revolution (1.202 million approximately; 850,000 in North America and Western Europe,[20] 352,123 in Japan)[21]
Rayman Raving Rabbids (1.2 million)[22]
Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles (1.2 million)[13]
Sonic and the Secret Rings (1.2 million)[22]
We Ski (1.2 million)[23]
Big Beach Sports (1.2 million shipped)[24]
Active Life: Outdoor Challenge (1.03 million)[25]
Call of Duty: World at War (over 1 million)[26]
Red Steel (1 million)[22]
Rock Band (1 million)[27]
Game Party 2 (1 million shipped)[12
kotakuQuoteAccording to a Wii U white paper published by Hit Detection, the consulting company founded by former Newsweek journalist N'Gai Croal, the kits in developers' hands are just not up to current-gen snuff, but they are working.QuoteDevelopers have underclocked development kits, and worked hard to deliver titles running on that hardware to demonstrate live at E3. However, due to titles not looking much better than what is currently available on Xbox 360 and the PS3, Nintendo decided late in the game to not show those titles and focus instead on tech demos. In particular, THQ stated that Darksiders II was running on development hardware and could have been shown. Also, Epic vice president Mark Rein tweeted during E3 that Gearbox's Aliens: Colonial Marines was being made for Wii U with Unreal Engine 3, showing that Epic is bringing its tech to Wii U.
please understand
Xbox 330
microsoft's balls are tiny and shriveled, i have literally never heard of someone being described as "having balls" just because they throw money around out of their fat wallet to solve problems... in fact, that's kind of the opposite of balls
The original gcn controller had less buttons and no dpad for instance.
The original gcn controller had less buttons and no dpad for instance.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a9/Nintendo_Gamecube_Black_Controller.JPG)
i think you're making that up
'original' means the one that it launched with. that's the controller they launched with. prototypes dont count.
i think you're making that up
'original' means the one that it launched with. that's the controller they launched with. prototypes dont count.
Semantics ain't worth crying over. I can't copy and paste right now, but I did a google image search and it was literally the first result. It changed to the controller as we knew it due to developer input. Same deal with the nunchuck if I remember correctly.
kotakuQuoteAccording to a Wii U white paper published by Hit Detection, the consulting company founded by former Newsweek journalist N'Gai Croal, the kits in developers' hands are just not up to current-gen snuff, but they are working.QuoteDevelopers have underclocked development kits, and worked hard to deliver titles running on that hardware to demonstrate live at E3. However, due to titles not looking much better than what is currently available on Xbox 360 and the PS3, Nintendo decided late in the game to not show those titles and focus instead on tech demos. In particular, THQ stated that Darksiders II was running on development hardware and could have been shown. Also, Epic vice president Mark Rein tweeted during E3 that Gearbox's Aliens: Colonial Marines was being made for Wii U with Unreal Engine 3, showing that Epic is bringing its tech to Wii U.
please understand
Xbox 330
Pretty amusing to see people sucking the dick of previous Nintendo consoles when, in their heydays, those consoles were getting regularly shiited on by the same sort of circle-jerking whoresons that post here. I have no doubt that in 8 years, these same mongrels will come together and exchange memories of the Wii in wistful, reverent tones.
Pretty amusing to see people sucking the dick of previous Nintendo consoles when, in their heydays, those consoles were getting regularly shiited on by the same sort of circle-jerking whoresons that post here. I have no doubt that in 8 years, these same mongrels will come together and exchange memories of the Wii in wistful, reverent tones.:lol
Pretty amusing to see people sucking the dick of previous Nintendo consoles when, in their heydays, those consoles were getting regularly shiited on by the same sort of circle-jerking whoresons that post here. I have no doubt that in 8 years, these same mongrels will come together and exchange memories of the Wii in wistful, reverent tones.
"what was the name of that great game on the Wii?"
Pretty amusing to see people sucking the dick of previous Nintendo consoles when, in their heydays, those consoles were getting regularly shiited on by the same sort of circle-jerking whoresons that post here. I have no doubt that in 8 years, these same mongrels will come together and exchange memories of the Wii in wistful, reverent tones.
You mean like how I loved the N64 and the Gamecube during their respective eras? Cause I know I did, yet I don't think you know me so learn how to not be a little fuckshit, k?
LOL - the NES/FC and the SNES/SFC - THIS is when Nintendo rocked, see also Gameboy Advance.
The N64? jesus tittyfucking christ.
Pretty amusing to see people sucking the dick of previous Nintendo consoles when, in their heydays, those consoles were getting regularly shiited on by the same sort of circle-jerking whoresons that post here. I have no doubt that in 8 years, these same mongrels will come together and exchange memories of the Wii in wistful, reverent tones.
You mean like how I loved the N64 and the Gamecube during their respective eras? Cause I know I did, yet I don't think you know me so learn how to not be a little fuckshit, k?
Sure you did, big fella. I've had a Nintendo-based username since the N64 days, back when I was first cracking my knuckles on the IGN message boards. That, ole chum, is LOVE. Anyone who loved Nintendo games then, should love Nintendo games now. What, are you mad that Nintendo didn't continuously administer you the same handjob further into the deficient course of your awkward manhood?
You are not a TRUE Nintendo fan Great Rumbler. Even when they stop catering to you, you must continue to show your loyalty by buying everything they release.
Pretty amusing to see people sucking the dick of previous Nintendo consoles when, in their heydays, those consoles were getting regularly shiited on by the same sort of circle-jerking whoresons that post here. I have no doubt that in 8 years, these same mongrels will come together and exchange memories of the Wii in wistful, reverent tones.
You mean like how I loved the N64 and the Gamecube during their respective eras? Cause I know I did, yet I don't think you know me so learn how to not be a little fuckshit, k?
Sure you did, big fella. I've had a Nintendo-based username since the N64 days, back when I was first cracking my knuckles on the IGN message boards. That, ole chum, is LOVE. Anyone who loved Nintendo games then, should love Nintendo games now. What, are you mad that Nintendo didn't continuously administer you the same handjob further into the deficient course of your awkward manhood?
The last time Nintendo tried to do anything remotely interesting with their hardware was the N64, and they would have nailed it had they not cheaped out on the silicon. 4K texture buffer :derp
Nintendosbooger thinks he has achieved high intelligence when he still falls into the pitfalls of fanboyism, no one should take him seriously.
Good to see I'm not the only one that thinks the n64 was a piece of shit.Always was and always will be. :gun
Good to see I'm not the only one that thinks the n64 was a piece of shit.Always was and always will be. :gun
:bow N64
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/9313/hpim1437.jpgspoiler (click to show/hide)I dont own Mario 64 :lol[close]
Any N64 list without Mischief Makers is just flat wrong.
wait, what year is this?
is Quest 64 out yet?
Damnit booger, I want to like you cus all we got is each other and I'll be fucked sideways before I ever buddy up with someone like Brandnew. Cool it.
The worst thing age has done to FF7 is making the pre-rendered backgrounds look bad as resolutions have bumped up and you can't do anything with them even through emulation.
Let me lay some manners on that list of yours, Booger :
1.) Legend of Zelda: Orcarina of Time
2.) Super Mario 643.) Super Smash Brothers (best one)
4.) Wave Race 64
5.) Perfect Dark
6.) Golden Eye7.) Wrestlemania 2000 (or No Mercy)
8.) Rayman 2
9.) Banjo-Kazooie
10.) Jet Force Gemeni
11.) Starfox 6412.) Sin & Punishment
13.) Blast Corps
14.) The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask
15.) Mario Party
16.) Mario Kart 64
Was the N64 a piece of shit? Not if you throw in a load of old shit into your "above 10 'classics'"
Before anyone starts, i like some of the games i've slashed out - some i think are garbage (Mario Kart 64 is an abomination for one and Jet Force Gemeni has NO BIZNIZ being anywhere within a number of lightyears of this list. Even Star Fox is probably a bit debatable as i think the first one carries more weight. Mario Party was and always will be shit, S+P is good but massively over rated.
Hmmm - i wonder how putrid my N64 collection actually is?
I don't know which I'd say aged better. The N64 has better filtering and stuff, but the textures are soooooooo low-res and everything is so fucking blurry. The PSX is sharp and has nice textures, but everything is really, really jaggy. What I will say is games that looked great on each system still look great today with minor touch-ups (Mario 64, Zelda, Wipeout XL, Gran Turismo, Final Fantasy 9), but there's no saving games that didn't look very good.
Majoras Mask might be a bit harsh, but SSB is seriously one of the worst series of games i've ever had the misfortune to play. Great, it tries something new - it's still shit.
I am stagnating the industry with clones of shitty games? come now. I bought a 64DD, was it my fault that sucked donkey dicks as well??
XFE, crossing the AKI wrestling games off the list is a crime punishable by death. They might be the only thing on that list yet to be made redundant by superior sequels. They are to this day the most fun non-sexual time four people can spend together.that's because N64 were limited by small carts while PSX had CDs.
Hunh, never noticed. Always just thought the Nintendo was using some kind of Polish CDs or something.
STAR collection, coin collection was secondary (red coins) - unless my memory is going. One of hte stars was based on coins wasn't it?
XFE, crossing the AKI wrestling games off the list is a crime punishable by death. They might be the only thing on that list yet to be made redundant by superior sequels. They are to this day the most fun non-sexual time four people can spend together.that's because N64 were limited by small carts while PSX had CDs.
Hunh, never noticed. Always just thought the Nintendo was using some kind of Polish CDs or something.
didn't Resident Evil 64 look decent because it used 512megabit or something?
What's wrong with collecting coins/stars? It's just as arbitrary an end-point as jumping on a flag pole or running past a sonic board. I honestly don't get your complaint. If the task is getting from point A to point B to get the coin (flag pole, star, whatever), then every Mario game ever is built on 'task-based' gameplay.
XFE, crossing the AKI wrestling games off the list is a crime punishable by death. They might be the only thing on that list yet to be made redundant by superior sequels. They are to this day the most fun non-sexual time four people can spend together.that's because N64 were limited by small carts while PSX had CDs.
Hunh, never noticed. Always just thought the Nintendo was using some kind of Polish CDs or something.
didn't Resident Evil 64 look decent because it used 512megabit or something?
N64 had common carts at 4 megabytes but had special, more expensive carts at 64 megabytes if needed, RE 64 used that among a few others. Still that's only 10% of the 640 mb PSX CDs and cartridges cost a lot more too
I'm not a particular fan of fighting games, i like the art and that's about it. SSB just bored me to tears. It's nothing to do with fighting game elitism and everything to do with a lack of entertainment.
Of all the games in the list, i at least LIKE all the others - but SSB just isn't for me.
smash brothers is mascot spazzery for the adhd set, it SHOULD revolt anyone with a mental age above 11
SSB - i didn't find the combat fun, it's just not for me - half the characters i couldn't give a flying toss about doesn't help. It just felt pointless and boring to me. I could go on about AI but that would be a lie, i never got to the point where i saw anything glitchy or annoying, i was simply bored by the action and the combat.QuoteConvince me why SSB was a shitty game?
I don't need to convince anyone of anything and you don't need to convince me of anything - with the exception of why i'm the root of all the bad game evil! ;)
what constitutes as great pussy?
Hey booger you should post another riveting pic of your vast game collection :teehee
Hey booger you should post another riveting pic of your vast game collection :teehee
Wish I could, but I loaned my system and games out.
so keep an eye out for my upcoming PS3 thread.
you can get an official MS-refurbished 20GB 360 for $99 if you want to get into the current gen on the cheap:
http://www.gamestop.com/gs/landing/huge-xbox-savings/default.aspx
QuoteI have no interest in electronic relics.
How do you balance this with being a nintendo fan? They go hand in hand.
I'd take that shit off your hands dcharlie if I can check the list of games and details first.
nintendo fans will crawl between the spam-textured legs of any old and worn out street corner ragamuffin, pump twice and "nnnnnnngggggggghhh," then declare it the best pussy they ever had
nintendo fans will crawl between the spam-textured legs of any old and worn out street corner ragamuffin, pump twice and "nnnnnnngggggggghhh," then declare it the best pussy they ever had
what constitutes as great pussy?
nintendo fans will crawl between the spam-textured legs of any old and worn out street corner ragamuffin, pump twice and "nnnnnnngggggggghhh," then declare it the best pussy they ever had
(http://i51.tinypic.com/2lbhxrk.jpg)
"It's hard to say right now. I do not think we'll have a console with a lot better graphics than the PS3 currently offered. I believe the future will be to offer consumers better and more accessible experience. The aim will be to make more people enter the world of video games and try to design titles for women."
"It's hard to say right now. I do not think we'll have a console with a lot better graphics than the PS3 currently offered. I believe the future will be to offer consumers better and more accessible experience. The aim will be to make more people enter the world of video games and try to design titles for women."
Why would you think Sony would go in a completely different direction then that (i.e great graphics)?Sfags are pretty happy with PS3 graphics,they still dream about potential,Cell,blu-ray...
Why would you think Sony would go in a completely different direction then that (i.e great graphics)?
Wouldn't following Nintendo be stupid? 'hardcore' games seem to sell with greater consistency on the systems. A company like Microsoft isn't going to ignore that eighty billion people that play Call of Duty annually, pay for Xbox Live, buy DLC, etc. right?
Do you see 2K and Take-Two producing more titles for Nintendo’s Wii U console? Are Rockstar games going to come out for that?
We’ll see. We are looking at it seriously and at the relationship with Nintendo. We have supported the Wii and it has worked for us. We have done Carnival Games for the Wii. They support the platform and they were pretty excited about what they have seen. It will not be driven by me pounding the table saying do it, it will be driven by economic opportunity and creative opportunity.
Is there any particular hardware you’ve seen where you said, “This is exciting, we have got to start building for this?”
We’ve certainly said we’ve got to do something for iPad and iPhone. We’ve got to try to do something for Android. We’ve got to support Wii. We’ve definitely made declarative statements and encouraged our teams. What we have stopped well short of is having a discussion with the creative team, saying “Even though you think this is a stupid idea, do it anyway.” We try not to have conversations like that.
We’ve tried a bunch a things. We tried China Town Wars for the iPhone, and we’re thrilled that we did it, and it was creatively successful. At the price point for which we can sell on the iPhone, it is not going to be economically meaningful. At the end of the day, we are interested in creating economic value, and what we intend to do is make something and sell it to millions and millions of people, and sell it at a high price. You don’t want to spend lots and lots of money to make something you are going to sell to a small amount of people at a low price.
Can you charge $20, $30 or $40 for a tablet game?
I don’t see why not. Tablets are ubiquitous. And tablets are a great game platform. And it’s the right sized screen. And you use the tablet to have an engaging experience. So if all of that’s true, I don’t see why we wouldn’t be able to sell a robust product for the same price point. The reason the price point is currently lower for an iPhone app is it is used for five minutes, and not for a hundred hours.
My take is that small screens will be used for a quick but interactive entertainment experience. Mid and large screes can be a robust and engaging entertainment experience. That’s how my kids play games. When they’re at home, they don’t really play games on their desktops or tablets. They play games on the projection TV.
We tried China Town Wars for the iPhone, and we’re thrilled that we did it, and it was creatively successful. At the price point for which we can sell on the iPhone, it is not going to be economically meaningful. At the end of the day, we are interested in creating economic value, and what we intend to do is make something and sell it to millions and millions of people, and sell it at a high price. You don’t want to spend lots and lots of money to make something you are going to sell to a small amount of people at a low price.
Given the staggering out-of-the-gate success Nintendo saw with the Wii, you might have expected the company to push back its next generation planning for a year or two to focus on ensuring third-party partners understood how best to succeed on the Wii, ultimately extending its appeal in the market.
But while consumers camped out for the then-white-hot gaming system and partners struggled to find a way to capitalize on it, Nintendo was already at work on the Wii U.
In fact, it was as early as 2007 that the company knew it wanted to add a second screen to its next system, says global president and CEO Satoru Iwata. The biggest debate, actually, was where that screen should go.
Initially, the Wii U's second screen was a separate device that was to be placed on a table, not attached to the controller. Also, the screen was much smaller, due to the higher costs of LCDs at the time.
"Considering how expensive screens were then, it did not make sense to have this big-sized LCD," he says. "We would not have been able to come up with a reasonable price point. … We had not decided when we were going to launch the new console [at that point], but we knew we needed to be flexible."
Just as contentious internally was whether the new system would, in fact, be a portable gaming system or a home console device – or both.
"During the roundtable discussions there were such arguments about should we make it capable of being a standalone system or should we make it work only with the [base console] system," says Iwata. "We came to the conclusion that this controller is only going to show the images generated and processed by this hardware unit – and sent from the hardware unit wirelessly. That means sharper graphics. A battery couldn't do that."
you can get an official MS-refurbished 20GB 360 for $99 if you want to get into the current gen on the cheap:
http://www.gamestop.com/gs/landing/huge-xbox-savings/default.aspx
Where are those new Nintendo characters Booger promised?
Where are those new Nintendo characters Booger promised?
I'm polishing my essay, soldier.
I had some pretty off-the-wall ideas back in the day. I'm adding more and taking out some that a sound human brain should have never birthed in the first place. The hardest part is the design of these characters - I wish I could draw, but as it stands now, I can only going through the painstaking task of describing their physical characteristics.
"We've got no plans whatsoever," he said. "We've got two new games out in the open when there's no extra time to work with them at all. It makes me cringe, and I'm not sure it's the smartest thing to make gamers wait for several years, but the early announcement was made chiefly in order to attract new team members."
http://www.next-gen.biz/news/sakurai-has-no-plans-whatsoever-new-smash-bros (http://www.next-gen.biz/news/sakurai-has-no-plans-whatsoever-new-smash-bros)
Weeoooo launch probably gonna be as dysmal as the 3DS' at this rateQuote from: Masahiro Sakurai"We've got no plans whatsoever," he said. "We've got two new games out in the open when there's no extra time to work with them at all. It makes me cringe, and I'm not sure it's the smartest thing to make gamers wait for several years, but the early announcement was made chiefly in order to attract new team members."
I was all set to set fire to my Japanese Saturn and then i remembered i have 10 pads , the two expanders, and Saturn BombermanMake more kids, then just wait a bit.
IF only the wife and I had a combined total of 8 friends....
That sucks ass!No, d00d! Backbone's got your back, bone! You can count on them to deliver a faithful experience.
I'm reading about and this really pisses me off. Hudson soft made some awesome games, I even loved the Bloody Roar series(and according to wikipedia a new Bloody Roar was in the works but got cancelled due to this :maf). Does this mean no more Bomberman ever again? :(
Poor guy, jdevs are crazy. I remember reading an interview with one of the head devs at Cave I think Iconoclast posted it here, who worked 7 day weeks on shmups and hadn't had a holiday for years. Ahhhhhhhh.... 8) my cushy western lifestyle
Sakurais reaction to the E3 announcement
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUjh9Id6Id8[/youtube]
you have my axe
Yeah, working on a plan. Unfortunately my business contract status precludes me from receiving unemployment benefits, so I will have to keep any sabbatical to a minimum.
http://www.next-gen.biz/news/sakurai-has-no-plans-whatsoever-new-smash-bros (http://www.next-gen.biz/news/sakurai-has-no-plans-whatsoever-new-smash-bros)
Weeoooo launch probably gonna be as dysmal as the 3DS' at this rateQuote from: Masahiro Sakurai"We've got no plans whatsoever," he said. "We've got two new games out in the open when there's no extra time to work with them at all. It makes me cringe, and I'm not sure it's the smartest thing to make gamers wait for several years, but the early announcement was made chiefly in order to attract new team members."
It’s not a big step up from consoles as x360 or PS3, it is better hardware wise but when the new xbox and ps4 comes it will be runned down again, wanted to see something much stronger.
- All the Zelda stuff was RENDERED, we havent seen anything play on the console in their show, all “good looking” stuff was rendered. BF3 was from our movies. I dont think the end game results will be significantly better than x360 and PS3. But the extra RAM will help with player limits that are stopping x360/ps3 today in for example BF3.
Didn't I say that I don't think games would look much better then on x360Nintendo third party plans :fbm
and ps3? But that it was more powerful.
I think the next gen consoles will be much stronger so we will be
downgrading towards the WiiU like with the Wii today.
That is what I meant anyway :)
I won't be exited about the console until I see a good game running on it.
Using SD card and "usb" devices, disabling internal permanent storage is
also weak in my mind, wouldn't be suprised if it is for ppl to buy Nintendo
licensed H.D.Ds later to have the illusion of a cheaper console.
We devs need storage to run and patch our games properly, something
Microsoft is being a showstopper on current gen with their x360 without
harddrive and 4mb title update limits.
Meaning we can't patch what we want if needed.
The future will tell what WiiU will give us :)
Didn't say it wouldn't compete with current gen.
But I know how much RAM the WiiU has and I have an idea of how much "we" developers would like to see in the next Xbox and PS4, and they differ a lot.
Still, the WiiU will be the most powerful console out there when it's released, BY FAR!
But I wonder for how long...
Nintendo cant go and compete with MS and Sony i think because they want to keep their console cheaper as with the Wii.
BUT, I might also be wrong and this is Nintendos real hunt after the hardcore MS and Sony players.
The thing id that they(sony) should focus on general known tech as Xbox did,PS3 :piss2
just a good CPU and lots of RAM so we can keep more players and vehicles in
memory. The forced PS3 RAM usage is a big showstopper on multi platform
games today.
Then lose money because Ntards aren't interested in CoD5 and beyond
I will seriously LOL if multiplat PS360 games have NO advantages on the WiiU because devs are lazy.Oh, that old chestnut: "The devs are lazy."
I will seriously LOL if multiplat PS360 games have NO advantages on the WiiU because devs are lazy.Oh, that old chestnut: "The devs are lazy."
Borys, when you go to work each day, do you just do whatever you want? Or does someone have some say over what you do with your time? Even if you are self-employed, you probably have customers, right? They have some say over what they expect from you, right?
Developers are the same way. Bosses outside of the development department tell us what to do, and frequently licensors tell them what they want the devs to do. It's rarely negotiable in the former case, and almost never negotiable in the second, particularly if the license is a well known brand or property. And the bottom line is, it all comes down to an ROI report, which frames the entire scope of any development effort.
Aren't all Smash Bros. games exactly the same ??? Like Animu Crossing?
Aren't all Smash Bros. games exactly the same ??? Like Animu Crossing?
Yeah, working on a plan. Unfortunately my business contract status precludes me from receiving unemployment benefits, so I will have to keep any sabbatical to a minimum.
Aren't all Street Fighter games exactly the same ??? Like Finaru Fantasy?
^ A similarly distinguished mentally-challenged question
Nintendo kept even the most senior internal developers in the dark about the capabilities of Wii U leading up to the console's E3 2011 announcement.
Yoshiaki Koizumi - veteran developer, director and producer of games spanning The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (the original) to Super Mario Galaxy - admitted that even he didn't have the full Wii U picture beforehand. (um....WAT?)
"As a developer at Nintendo, I had some information about the new system, but I didn't really have all of the information prior to the announcement at our presentation," Koizumi told Wired's GameLife blog.
The sad thing is that that chart is actually cumulative sales.
QuoteNintendo kept even the most senior internal developers in the dark about the capabilities of Wii U leading up to the console's E3 2011 announcement.
Yoshiaki Koizumi - veteran developer, director and producer of games spanning The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (the original) to Super Mario Galaxy - admitted that even he didn't have the full Wii U picture beforehand. (um....WAT?)
"As a developer at Nintendo, I had some information about the new system, but I didn't really have all of the information prior to the announcement at our presentation," Koizumi told Wired's GameLife blog.
The Galaxy games had a story?
The Galaxy games had a story?
apparently when you are a ninthing that [optional] 5 minute little story about the stars and princesswhatshername (rosalinda?) count as AN HORRIBLE GAMEPLAY INTERRUPTION
:lolYeah, working on a plan. Unfortunately my business contract status precludes me from receiving unemployment benefits, so I will have to keep any sabbatical to a minimum.
Come work in Europe man.
:punch
We'll give ya benefits!
AMD: Xbox 720 graphics will look like Avatar:bow2
Technology company AMD, who supplied the graphics hardware for the Xbox 360, claims that the next Xbox will be capable of the level of graphical detail seen in James Cameron's movie Avatar. Even on PC, that kind of technology just isn't here yet, but AMD claims the Xbox 720 will launch with it.
While AMD would not confirm they were actually working on the 360's successor, director of ISV relationships at AMD, Neal Robison, stated that gamers have a lot to excited about.
Robison also mentioned that the A.I. and physics capabilities of the next-gen hardware will allow for every pedestrian in a game such as Grand Theft Auto or Saints Row to have a totally individual mentality, meaning when you shoot a gun or run someone over they don't all just do the same thing. There will be no more mob mentality, where everyone just screams and runs away; every NPC will actually be an individual character.
Whoa.
Source: August issue of OXM (U.S.)
QuoteAMD: Xbox 720 graphics will look like Avatar
last gens graphics are good enough for me
I dont actually doubt it. Still Xbox 720 is a ways off. When that gets released so will Wiiuhu a few years later.
And the n64 could render Jurrasic Park!
WiiU will be substantially weaker than the next xbox. I kinda don't give a shit. Until third parties abandon the WiiU three years after launch, then I'll give half a shit. :fbm
I'm far more interested in Nintendo's dd and online implementation, because graphics were never a concern for me on the wii. Plenty of games looked great in spite of the hardware. It was the friendcodes and other ancillary shit that bothered me the most.
And the n64 could render Jurrasic Park!
WiiU will be substantially weaker than the next xbox. I kinda don't give a shit. Until third parties abandon the WiiU three years after launch, then I'll give half a shit. :fbm
I'm far more interested in Nintendo's dd and online implementation, because graphics were never a concern for me on the wii. Plenty of games looked great in spite of the hardware. It was the friendcodes and other ancillary shit that bothered me the most.
Super Nintendo ROMs and separate online accounts for each major publisher.
.... only just? They have been turning a profit on the 360 for years now, and it's currently the hottest console on the market. And yeah, we'll see a 720 by 2014
Weeooooooooo
I can't wait for great Weeoo games from publishers like Culture Brain and Vic Tokai
Weeoooooooooooooooooo
.... only just? They have been turning a profit on the 360 for years now, and it's currently the hottest console on the market. And yeah, we'll see a 720 by 2014
(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd387/sparks98765/360Profits.png)
They are only just getting to overall profits. They are just recouping their initial investment.
3ds seems to be normalising ahead of the psp atm (in japan). I'm guessing after mariokart and animal crossing it might be the "leader" until the vita drops.
annnnd... on what are you basing this conclusion? the 3ds had a couple of high weeks during and immediately post ocarina, but it fell sharply in last week's sales data, well below the psp again.
i expect mario kart will do quite well but i think animal crossing is "over", like Nintendo Dogs. seeing tables full of 1000 yen wii animal crossing for months gives a person that impression.
I thought I was current on the numbers. Psp and 3ds were 30kish for awhile. I'll go skim a media create thread. I think Animal Crossing Wii was just heavily overshipped. It was one of the highest selling games the year it came out.
As Media Create and Famitsu track only what is sold to retailers (unlike North America, retailers *cannot* return stock to publishers), a game could simultaneously be one of the highest selling games the year it came out, and a disastrously poor sell-through product. The only way to know for sure is to see how retailers order on the next installment. Animal Crossing is going to be taking a big hit on retail orders next time, especially since Nintendo is bafflingly making it the same old shit once again.
As Media Create and Famitsu track only what is sold to retailers
actually that's totally wrong
forgive me, i gave blood about an hour ago.
actually that's totally wrong
forgive me, i gave blood about an hour ago.
hey man, they bled me like they were a leech and i was a juicy fat kid :(
stupid rare blood type
Nintendo has registered trademarks for a range of Wii U video games and peripherals, continuing some of the original Wii's biggest brands.
While none of the trademarks may come as a surprise, it does suggest that Nintendo will offer a similar line-up to that of its current console. It is also important to note that none of these trademarks confirm that these products are in development, but we'd be very surprised if Wii Sports U wasn't on shelves at launch.
The trademarks were found by Siliconera, and surprisingly include variations of Wii U Music, suggesting a successor to the disappointing Wii Music. The addition of WiiWare U lends itself to more downloadable games on the console.
It also mentions new versions of the Wii Zapper, Wii Balance Board and Wii Wheel. As Nintendo has announced before, all Wii peripherals will be compatible with Wii U.
The full list of trademarks is as follows:
Wii U + logo
Mii U
Wii Fit U
Wii Sports U
Wii Music U
Wii Party U
Wii Play U
WiiWare U
Wii Balance Board U
Balance Wii Board U
Wii Wheel U
Wii Zapper U
Wii U Fit
Wii U Music
Wii U Party
Wii U Sports
Wii U Play
Wii U Ware
Wii U Balance Board
Balance Wii U Board
Wii U Wheel
Wii U Zapper
Wii Speak U
Wii U Speak
Shield Pose
To be serious, this seems like mere trademark securement. They're stressing full backwards compatibility with all wii peripherals. I see no reason to redesign the board and wheel for instance.
no, they gave me an octopus and a school girl
i think that's the japanese version of cookies and orange juice though
Shield Pose
"I think that we're still going to see a big leap in graphics," Merceron told VideoGamer.com at Develop this week. "In terms of technology I think we'll see developers taking advantage of physically-based rendering, physically-based lighting. I think people will take advantage of global illumination, or at least some form approximation of global illumination, so that could have a significant impact on graphics quality.
Physically-based rendering and global illumination are techniques that allow coders to create photo-realistic effects. Both processes are already used in CGI film-making - and this in turn could benefit game developers. [Note: Due to punctuation, it's unclear if this paragraph is part of the quote, but I don't think it is.]
"It's going to enable new forms of art direction, but it's also going to enable deeper convergence between multiple media - being able to share more assets horizontally between movies, TV series and games," said Merceron.
"This means that when you're doing a cartoon, or when you're doing an animated movie, you could think about an art direction for the game that could be far closer [than current tie-ins]. Obviously it won't be the same, because the processing power won't be there, but you can think about art directions being way closer. And you can think about assets being re-used."
"There's a lot of room for improvement, and consumers will be able to see that in future graphics innovation techniques," he said. "Now, if you take most of the Pixar movies from the last five to six years… do you see a big difference between one that was released five years ago, and one that was released last year? I'm actually not sure we see a huge difference.
"But if you take a film like Avatar, there's a huge leap in the graphics techniques that are being used and the level of realism. The conclusion I would draw from that is we might end up seeing the difference way more in realistic-looking games, rather than those trying to achieve a cartoony look. At some point, with all these games [that are] going for a cartoony look, consumers might get the feeling that it's plateauing. But for games striving for a very realistic look, it's going to be easy to see all the improvements, all the time."
"Right now you see a wide range of games out there," said Merceron, speaking to VideoGamer.com at Develop. "There's Call of Duty, that is selling millions, and all these millions of consumers can't be wrong - this is part of the games that we're going to see tomorrow [in the future]. But at the same time, you have millions of people playing Farmville on Facebook, and again, this type of game is not wrong. These consumers can't be wrong.
"I think both are important. Both of these games are right, both of these games are doing things right. It's about [asking], what can you learn from this? And when you learn from that, what type of products are you then trying to design?"
But Merceron added that the growing popularity of Farmville and similar games won't come at the expense of more traditional, triple-A projects.
"There's room for both," he continued. "There's probably room for a combination of some of these experiences. The high-end experience - the kind of Hollywood, high adrenaline, extremely intense experience - that's still going to be there. And it's going to get more intense, it's going to get way more intense than it is today. And for a wide range of consumers, that's going to be the type of experience they want. But we see at the same time, the social components are super important."
"The thing that is interesting is, sometimes it can take four or five years to make a product, four or five years between conception to actually shipping your game. If you're targeting an audience of 18-year-old people, when you're starting, these guys are 14. That's one mistake a lot of developers are making: they're thinking about 18 years olds today - but those guys will be 22! [The question is] what are the 14-year-old guys doing today? What's important to them?
"The products we're moving towards are going to be evolving experiences, with social aspects, user-generated contact, downloadable content."
"We're already making a lot of effort on this generation of platforms," said Merceron. "You see how things develop: it went from multiplayer, to multiplayer and co-op, to multiplayer and co-op with social community features. And now these experiences are trying to enable a deeper style of community management.
"[It's about] not only creating a game, but creating a whole experience that is social, that is entertaining, that is immersive and involving. That's the goal."
Why are you pretending Wii U doesn't exist!? It's next-gen!
“We haven't made an official announcement about that platform. And while we loved the Wii, it just wasn't a fit to make a game that would go across Xbox 360, PS3 and the Wii. It just wasn't possible. So going forward, we're working with those folks and we're very interested in the Wii U," Capps told us.
"At the launch event at E3, some of the products that you saw running on Wii U were based on Unreal Engine technology. So that kind of gives you an idea of where we are in that space. You can certainly use our engine on that platform – it's a natural fit from a technology perspective," Capps added. "It opens up some doors that weren't open before on current generation consoles because it is going to be a powerful box. I'm sure [Epic VP] Mark Rein would love anyone who's interested to know how official our support is to get in touch with him!”
nothing at all
nothing at all
real talk: Gears Trilogy on Wii U's launch with exclusive Bowser skin for Cole
"It's still moving, but I think we'll be able to do anything that we can do on PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 on the Wii U."
Andrew Wilson, vice president, EA Sports
:lolIt's pretty well established at this point that that is not fucking happening. :lol
Meanwhile nindreamers dream sweet dreams about PS4/ 720 ports...
real talk: Gears Trilogy on Wii U's launch with exclusive Bowser skin for Cole
real talk: Gears Trilogy on Wii U's launch with exclusive Bowser skin for Cole
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Is Nintendo Reconsidering The Wii U?
Kurt Bakke in Business on August 03
We are wondering: Is Nintendo is still certain about the appeal of its Wii U console? The company has just pulled the device from the display of Europe’s most significant video game trade show later this month.Nintendo confirmed that it has decided not to show the Wii U at GamesCom 2011 in Cologne, Germany (August 17 – 21). The company also canceled all press events surrounding the Wii U and simply said that “security concerns” are the reason why it can’t show and discuss the Wii U.
Security concerns? Seriously?
Pitching a Wii U that changes the Wii’s model of success may be an overly risky move for Nintendo at this time. We have heard before that Nintendo may be reconsidering the tablet-style controller and possibly make it optional. Nintendo’s unexpected decision to pull the Wii U from GamesCom 2011 will fuel more speculation that the console could be changing.
Security concerns? We don’t buy it.
they better leave the pad controller in there, it is quite literally the only thing distinguishing it from their console competition
they better leave the pad controller in there, it is quite literally the only thing distinguishing it from their console competition
My anectdotal experience (coworkers) suggests the CoD crowd think the system "looks stupid". I wouldn't be surprised if they are shrinking the controller down. Maybe shuffle a few of the technical innards (more ram, flash storage, etc.)
(http://www.espacomac.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/nintendo-iwata-ipad1.jpg):lol :lol :lol
"Fuck it"
Yep, that and make the system much more powerful than the 360/PS3 with much better online services. Too bad that won't happen.
I still think Nintendo just wanted in on the all the dirty HD twin money, so they threw something together in the hopes that could attract some new people to buy it. Then they realized that tablets are so hot right now, so they made it the focal point.
Stopgap system and gimmick? Check and double check.
Best part is how they spent last 5 years pimping waggle and pushing it down our throats now comes Wii U and waggle goes out of the window :lol
Hey I'm fine with Nintendo copying iPad and selling 100M of it on one condition: they copy iPad games pricing as well.hah, not happening. They are notoriously greedy fucking pricks.
IMPROVE THE FUCKING MOTION CONTROL YOU DIM-WIT IDIOTS :maf
It is mating season for the singing moles of Redmond, fresh off their migration back from Mountain View, and they are singing about the XBox Next chip. What’s more, they have a name and a date.
The moles are cooing the name softly while they think up new ways to transition Microsoft’s business model from monopoly abuse to patent trolling. The name they are singing in their tunnels sounds like “Obed”, but the spelling might be a bit off due to echoing in the tunnels.
Obed it seems is SoC, CPU + GPU, and of course eDRAM, it sounds an awful lot like an evolutionary version of the current XBox 360 chip. Some say it is an x86/Bulldozer part, but everything we have been hearing for a long time says that the chip is going to be a PPC variant. In any case, the GPU is definitely made by AMD/ATI, and IBM has a big hand in the SoC design.
The moles all say that production is set for late 2012, possibly the early days of 2013. basically once the moles get settled in to Mountain View for the winter. They will give the thumps up or down on silicon based on parts they get back in Q1 of 2012. If all goes well that is. That puts production of the XBox Next in the late spring or early summer of 2013, just in time for singing mole mating season. Nothing gets a sow’s attention like a new SoC.S|A
Confessions from a Nintendo insider
Wii U : when hardware goes into development hell
As we know, the Wii U is the result of a long engineering and refining process by its secretive R&D labs. But, according to our source, it seems that the final architecture has been rushed through the door, with undesirable consequences. Nintendo’s low cost policy, which has so far allowed the company to surf the tech wave in a distinctively offbeat way, all the while maintaining incredibly high margins, could be about to backfire.
Tethered so far
So far, the Wii U controller’s main chipset - that manages the device’s essential functions, including streaming and wireless – seems inadequate. This chip, described by our source as maybe a tad too cheap, has been the sources of many headaches in recent weeks. So far, the wireless functions simply do not work – at all. There have been so far three different prototypes, and a fourth iteration is expected by select developers at the end of the month.
Developers on the brink
So far, developers are working with a tethered controller: each one is fitted with a small black box with a tethered connection to the main unit. And even then, it still doesn’t work properly. Many developers are feeling lost, their progress impeded by a distinct lack of visibility, their working days paced by the quasi-daily software updates. In those conditions, many feel unable to properly exploit the system’s most innovative and promising features, those very features they haven’t been able to test properly so far.
What about the schedule ?
Ten months before the tentative release date – developers are still expecting a June 2012 release – the fact that Nintendo engineers are still struggling to make this supposedly final architecture function properly is worrisome at best. Could Nintendo have to make radical last-minute changes, and if so, what would be the cost? This unexpected development runs contrary to Nintendo’s reputation for carefully weighing all tech options long before any announcement. Inside the company, there have been talks of a delayed release, with September as a new tentative date. Being three months off-schedule doesn’t seem such a big issue, when compared to a home console’s life cycle. But this is not 2006 anymore. The industry is undergoing a radical mutation, and there is a growing amount of rumors positioning Microsoft’s next system to be unveiled during the 2012 E3 conference, and a relase in short order. If that was to happen, the Wii U would only enjoy a few months of “optimal run” alongside the Xbox 360, which would essentially moot the much-touted ease with which developers can port 360 code for the Wii U. To succeed in its incredibly audacious endeavour, Nintendo will have to walk a very tight rope.
At least NoE went out on high-note: Xenoblade.
Jesus Christ Nintendo pack it into an ambulance and send it to the ER. Stillborn.
Weeeeeeeeeeeeee ooooooooooooooooooooo weeeeeeeeeeeeee oooooooooooooooo.
Even though the Crysis developer hasn’t yet announced any plans for projects involving the new machine, company founder Avni Yerli gushed about what it was capable of, in a recent interview with GamesIndustry.
"Our guys in Nottingham they are very happy with their tests on the dev kits and they’re excited about it," he says, also explaining that the new hardware provides a "challenge" for designers. "Once thought through it can add value, and that’s what ultimately important."
time to bump this
GTA 5 on Weeooooo?
very likely
Wii Play 13.04
Mario Kart Wii 10.64
Super Mario Bros. Wii 8.36
Wii Fit w/ Balance Board 8.15
Wii Sports Resort 6.05
Wii Fit Plus w/ Balance Board 5.35
Super Smash Bros.: Brawl 5.28
Just Dance 2 5.09
Super Mario Galaxy 4.38
Link's Crossbow Training 3.47
Mario Party 8 3.47
Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess 2.82
Guitar Hero III 2.76
Just Dance 2.71
LEGO Star Wars: Complete Saga 2.48
Super Mario Galaxy 2 2.4
Donkey Kong Country Returns 2.35
Mario & Sonic at Olympic Games 2.12
Carnival Games 1.88
Michael Jackson: Experience 1.88
Game Party 1.78
Wii Fit Plus (Standalone) 1.71
EA Sports Active 1.56
Disney Epic Mickey 1.52
Zumba Fitness: Join the Party 1.42
Deca Sports 1.35
Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 1.34
Rayman Raving Rabbids 1.28
Super Paper Mario 1.27
LEGO Batman 1.17
Wii Music 1.16
Mario Super Sluggers 1.13
Cooking Mama: Cook Off 1.08
LEGO Indiana Jones: Original Adventures 1.08
Animal Crossing: City Folk 1.06
Wipeout: The Game 1.06
Star Wars: Force Unleashed 1.06
Resident Evil 4 1.05
Guitar Hero World Tour 1.02
uDraw 1.02
Rock Band Special Edition 1.01
Call of Duty: World at War 1.01
where are they?
Dragon Age II PS3
Bayonetta 360, PS3 (not combined though)
We are also planning to launch the Wii U, which is the successor to the Wii, during the next fiscal year. We would like to show the final format of the Wii U at the E3 show next year. As we learned a bitter lesson with the launch of the Nintendo 3DS, we are trying to take every possible measure so that the Wii U will have a successful launch.
With all of these efforts and plans I have mentioned so far, we are trying to get back to our previous profit level.
a few things to add there for fun
- 360 has 48 million sellers, Wii has 42, PS3 has 19, PSP has 6, DS has 40.
- 360 has 39 third party million sellers, Wii has 23, PS3 has 16, PSP has 5, DS has 12.
- Wii's top four sellers are all higher than the 360's highest. 360's top 3 are higher than PS3's highest. DS's top eleven are all higher than the PSP's highest.
- Generally speaking, the Wii's software has sold better than the 360's, but not significantly so. They both embarrass the PS3. The DS vs the PSP is hilarity, of course.
- Comparing all together it looks like Wii>DS=360>>>PS3>>PSP. Sorting out for just third parties, it would be 360>>Wii>PS3>DS>>PSP.
- Nintendo's toilets are made of solid gold. Nintendo have 44 million-sellers, Activision have 20, EA have 18, Ubisoft have 12, Take 2 have 14.
- Weep for Japan: Outside Nintendo, there are only 14 million sellers from the rest of the Japanese publishers, and that is graciously counting everything Sony as a publisher releases as being from a Japanese publisher. Taking origins into account, there are only 11 million sellers of non-Nintendo Japanese origin, and 5 of them are SEGA, and all five of those are Sonic the Hedgehog games.
ALERT SEGA FANTARD ALERT ALERT
To put salt into some wounds, here are some notable titles that have sold worse than NiGHTS: Journey of Dreams for the Wii:
Dragon Age II PS3
Rock Band 3 PS3
Tomb Raider Underworld PS3
Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2
Brutal Legend PS3
Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 360
Enslaved PS3+360 combined
Vanquish PS3+360 combined
Bayonetta 360, PS3 (not combined though)
Prince of Persia 360
Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions 360, PS3, Wii
Chronicles of Riddick Dark Athena, PS3+360 combined
Wolfenstein PS3 + 360 combined
Two Worlds 2 360+PS3 combined
Alice: Madness Returns PS3+360 combined
All four Yakuza games put together
Silent Hill Origins
Rock Band Unplugged
Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker
God of War: Ghost of Sparta
2011 YTD HARDWARE SALES
TOTAL US EU JP
PS3 6.3 2.42 2.79 1.11
NDS 5.5 2.67 2.26 0.60
360 5.5 3.45 1.98 0.09
3DS 5.0 1.42 1.48 2.15
WII 4.9 2.36 2.01 0.55
PSP 3.9 0.85 1.40 1.60
- US: NPD, Jan to Sep.
- JP: Media Create, Week 1 to Week 42.
- EU: Nintendo, Week 1 to Week 41.
Does nintendo even know enough about geometry and shaders to make HD games?
They have a little catching up to do, but I'm confident they'd do so speedily. Nintendo actually has exceptionally talented people working for them. Not their fault the captain of the ship has kind of lost his marbles.
Order Up! alone justifies the existence of the Wii.
I will fight you all to the death over this.
i agree - i think it's going to be EVEN SHITTER than what people are thinking. Fork for your words, Oscar?
i owned only a wii up to somewhat a year ago
i owned only a wii up to somewhat a year ago
What was that like? I can't even imagine.
Did you steal the 360 from a shop btw?
ALERT SEGA FANTARD ALERT ALERT
To put salt into some wounds, here are some notable titles that have sold worse than NiGHTS: Journey of Dreams for the Wii:
Dragon Age II PS3
Rock Band 3 PS3
Tomb Raider Underworld PS3
Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2
Brutal Legend PS3
Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 360
Enslaved PS3+360 combined
Vanquish PS3+360 combined
Bayonetta 360, PS3 (not combined though)
Prince of Persia 360
Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions 360, PS3, Wii
Chronicles of Riddick Dark Athena, PS3+360 combined
Wolfenstein PS3 + 360 combined
Two Worlds 2 360+PS3 combined
Alice: Madness Returns PS3+360 combined
All four Yakuza games put together
Silent Hill Origins
Rock Band Unplugged
Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker
God of War: Ghost of Sparta
I know you like jrpg's and the 360 has some really big ones like Blue Dragon and Lost Oddysey and FF13.
Wouldnt you feel like you missed out on the big games?
ALERT SEGA FANTARD ALERT ALERT
To put salt into some wounds, here are some notable titles that have sold worse than NiGHTS: Journey of Dreams for the Wii:
Dragon Age II PS3
Rock Band 3 PS3
Tomb Raider Underworld PS3
Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2
Brutal Legend PS3
Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 360
Enslaved PS3+360 combined
Vanquish PS3+360 combined
Bayonetta 360, PS3 (not combined though)
Prince of Persia 360
Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions 360, PS3, Wii
Chronicles of Riddick Dark Athena, PS3+360 combined
Wolfenstein PS3 + 360 combined
Two Worlds 2 360+PS3 combined
Alice: Madness Returns PS3+360 combined
All four Yakuza games put together
Silent Hill Origins
Rock Band Unplugged
Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker
God of War: Ghost of Sparta
Does nintendo even know enough about geometry and shaders to make HD games?
(how else is Smash 4 gonna work?)
Consumers will never want this as their primary online platform Emcee wake up. It wont have the same games as the next gen PS and Xbox.
Jesus your dumb sometimes.
Console specs still in flux, but sources say Nintendo now has ambitions for touch-screen multiplayer
Nintendo engineers are working hard to upgrade Wii U so that it can simultaneously support two tablet controllers, Develop understands.
A trusted game development executive has said there are numerous indications within the Wii U codebase that the console is, at the very least, being prepared to operate with two touch-screen pads.
Nintendo and development partners had previously indicated that only one tablet controller could work with the system, due to technical limitations.
But Develop’s source, speaking on the condition of anonymity, explained that multi-tablet support is one of three remaining variables for the next-gen console. The other two are RAM capacity and processor speed.The person said Nintendo appears to be on the cusp of solving the technical conundrum of a single Wii U device supporting two tablet controllers. The source added that there was no indication, and very little chance, that four tablet controllers would ever be supported.
The Wii U, which was demonstrated for the first time this year at E3, features a tablet device at the centre of the experience. The iPad-like controller boasts a 6.2-inch single-touch screen, a camera, accelerometer, gyroscope, a motion control sensor strip, stereo speakers, stylus, microphone and a classic dual-analogue button layout.The console will stream a game’s video and audio onto the pad itself and, in theory, allow people to play without the need for a TV. The pad’s screen and TV can also work in conjunction to deliver unique dual-screen experiences.
Yet the sophistication of the Wii U tablet has led to technical hurdles in supporting more than one on each console. The platform allows for up to four classic Wii controllers to be used alongside a tablet controller.
Earlier in the year, Nintendo president Satoru Iwata suggested that two tablets playing on each system would also introduce cost barriers to the casual audience.
Develop’s source, however, believes that feedback from E3 has been welcomed by the company.“Nintendo now know they absolutely need to support two tablets,” the source said.“At E3 they didn’t commit to this, but they know how important it is to make it technically feasible to support two screens. Even if that affects framerate, as a developer and player, I don’t care. It needs to work. Developers will design appropriate games for this. If you’re building a quiz game you’re not going to give a shit about the framerate.”
Nintendo has told investors that the final edition of the Wii U will be demonstrated in June 2012 at E3. Launch is expected several months later. The company is expecting to post its first loss in 30 years.
It is customary for new console hardware to undergo several revisions before final release; something which has made it challenging to determine final specifications for the device.
So Carrefour put the "placeholder" price up: 450 fucking EUROS.So mario galaxy 3 and mario kart 8 incoming really fucking fast then is what you're saying.
EB Games Australia did as well: 600 fucking Austria USD (606 real American DOLLARS).
This console is DEADER THAN DEAD on arrival. Deader than 3DS was.
So Carrefour put the "placeholder" price up: 450 fucking EUROS.So mario galaxy 3 and mario kart 8 incoming really fucking fast then is what you're saying.
EB Games Australia did as well: 600 fucking Austria USD (606 real American DOLLARS).
This console is DEADER THAN DEAD on arrival. Deader than 3DS was.
silly pilon
they don't have to do anything new, they just have to make it look like they have to the masses
silly pilon
they don't have to do anything new, they just have to make it look like they have to the masses
Nintendo
major third parties.
The Wii U will launch in the US, Europe, Australia and Japan by the end of 2012, Nintendo has promised.
Following the release of its third quarter 2012 financial results, Nintendo boss Satoru Iwata told reporters in Japan today the Wii successor will hit key markets for the year end.
Global brand director Karl Stewart said development on the hotly-anticipated reboot began long before the announcement of the Wii U - and it wouldn't be right to simply port the game to Nintendo's tablet-fuelled Wii successor.
"When we started developing the game we made a conscious decision that it was all about building the game for a platform and making sure the game was specific to that platform," Stewart told the Crystal Habit Podcast (via the Eidos forum.
"Given that we've been working on the game quite a while before Wii U was announced I think it would not be right to try and port it across. If we started building a game for the Wii U we would build it very differently and we would build it with unique functionality."
CVG understands that following a disappointing E3 reveal - and public confusion over 3DS - serious discussions are ongoing at the highest level in the US and Japan as to whether the firm should cut its losses and give the console a different name.
Wii Nur
Just call it Wii-2, how hard is that?
Apparently some stuff got announced today.
NFC is baked into the controller and the system will have an account-based structure for downloads. Also, they "have the infrastructure in place" for downloads of retail software (also for 3DS) but are trying to decide the best timing for it.
All this news makes me pretty happy. :) But they specifically mention "multiple accounts per system," which is cool, but I want to know if it'll allow "multiple systems per account." Then I'd never have to worry about the system being fried and buying a new one and having none of my stuff transfer over, you know, like my first Wii.
Unfortunately the whole tablet situation is a little different but the fact still remains Nintendo is bringing this tech to consoles, and it will probably be very well supported (well, compared to the App Store) by major third parties.
Unfortunately the whole tablet situation is a little different but the fact still remains Nintendo is bringing this tech to consoles, and it will probably be very well supported (well, compared to the App Store) by major third parties.
Just like motion controls were well supported by the major third parties? Oh yeah...
Unfortunately the whole tablet situation is a little different but the fact still remains Nintendo is bringing this tech to consoles, and it will probably be very well supported (well, compared to the App Store) by major third parties.
Just like motion controls were well supported by the major third parties? Oh yeah...
They were. 100% of Wii games use the Wiimote or have it as an option. How many 360 games are Kinect-compatible?
User accounts: Wii U will have individual user accounts, rather than one system-wide account.
no,this is NiN
http://images.eurogamer.net/2012/articles//a/1/4/4/0/7/8/2/Nintendo_Network_1.jpg.jpg/EG11/resize/664x-1
Rest assured that whatever name the American Nintendo branch pushes for will be shot down by their Japanese overlords
How about Wii Aboo
I dunno. There's a weird perception of what a fan is.
How do I know that The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword is a great game? It has so many polarizing opinions around it. Some thing it changed way too much. Others say it didn't change nearly enough. Not since Majora's Mask have we had a game with so many dissenting opinions. Hell, it should be no surprise that Majora's Mask was my other big-time favorite!
I dunno. There's a weird perception of what a fan is.QuoteHow do I know that The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword is a great game? It has so many polarizing opinions around it. Some thing it changed way too much. Others say it didn't change nearly enough. Not since Majora's Mask have we had a game with so many dissenting opinions. Hell, it should be no surprise that Majora's Mask was my other big-time favorite!
don't be like that andrex :(
spoiler (click to show/hide)I've barely played Majora's Mask. :teehee[close]
how appropriate, given nintendo's proclivity for fucking their customers like animals
yes but there's no well-known Nine Inch Nails song that fits that scenario
you people are killing me here
how appropriate, given nintendo's proclivity for fucking their customers like animals
yes but there's no well-known Nine Inch Nails song that fits that scenario
you people are killing me here
:lol Nintendo can't win with you people.
Digital Foundry: PlayStation Vita and Nintendo Wii U are the big console launches of this year - what are your thoughts on these systems? Bearing in mind the recent release of GTA3, could you ever conceive of bringing Oddworld titles onto suitably powerful iOS devices?
Stewart Gilray: Well, we've already announced versions of Stranger and Munch for the Vita, but with regards to Nintendo, currently I'm not interested in working with them, or on their platform. Having developed a number of titles over the years for their various platforms, it's become increasingly apparent that unless you are published by Nintendo you don't tend to do very well.
They also have this crazy regard to IP and refuse to sign NDAs with indie-developer/publishers, leaving us small guys open to having our ideas stolen with no recourse. We have already looked at doing some stuff on iOS and all I can say is watch this space.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-the-making-of-oddworld-strangers-wrath-hd (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-the-making-of-oddworld-strangers-wrath-hd)
Interesting article about porting process,MS refusal and some small bit about NintendoQuoteDigital Foundry: PlayStation Vita and Nintendo Wii U are the big console launches of this year - what are your thoughts on these systems? Bearing in mind the recent release of GTA3, could you ever conceive of bringing Oddworld titles onto suitably powerful iOS devices?
Stewart Gilray: Well, we've already announced versions of Stranger and Munch for the Vita, but with regards to Nintendo, currently I'm not interested in working with them, or on their platform. Having developed a number of titles over the years for their various platforms, it's become increasingly apparent that unless you are published by Nintendo you don't tend to do very well.
They also have this crazy regard to IP and refuse to sign NDAs with indie-developer/publishers, leaving us small guys open to having our ideas stolen with no recourse. We have already looked at doing some stuff on iOS and all I can say is watch this space.
I genuinely didn't know what you were referencing.
Sorry, angry canadian guy.
well, it was a pretty obscure reference
if you're 12 years old or a loser shut-in
EmCee listens to Evanescense like a true cigarillo. :wag
EmCee listens to Evanescense like a true bro. :rock
I'm frightened by what I see
But somehow I know
That there's much more to come
This is so fucking awful that I may actually hate you for reals now Andrex.
the rumour is $200 base unit, $120 controller and a $299 "pack"
I don't see how they can not let it support 4, considering some of their franchises main liveblood is off of multiplayer.
I know this is just me, though. Many other people seem to care a lot more about visuals.
I don't see how they can not let it support 4, considering some of their franchises main liveblood is off of multiplayer.
As far as sales I still see nothing to believe this will be a Wii like hit so far.
Or Pokemon games.
Lemme share a little story about graphics and immersion.
This one time I lost myself in Advance Wars: DS, with the animations off. At that point, the whole game is just these blocky little sprites shuffling around on a big ugly grid. I was so into it that I literally had no idea what was going on around me. I'm lucky I didn't miss my train stop. Obviously, the graphics were terrible; it was the game itself that was so engrossing.
I know this is just me, though. Many other people seem to care a lot more about visuals.
The Wii U will be a fucking trainwreck if they can't get four Wii U tablet-controllers to work with the thing.
I can imagine as a little kid getting pissed that Billy and Susie get to use a Wii U controller but Charlie and I have to use the Wiimote.
Sounds like a winning concept to me! :hurr
Lemme share a little story about graphics and immersion.
This one time I lost myself in Advance Wars: DS, with the animations off. At that point, the whole game is just these blocky little sprites shuffling around on a big ugly grid. I was so into it that I literally had no idea what was going on around me. I'm lucky I didn't miss my train stop. Obviously, the graphics were terrible; it was the game itself that was so engrossing.
I know this is just me, though. Many other people seem to care a lot more about visuals.
The tech and graphics never determine a winner. That's for message board debates and forum warriors. Which is not to say if given the choice with better graphics in a certain instance I wouldn't take the better graphics in some cases. (Although I'll take frame rate over textures and pure polygon pushing any day of the week).
I personally never knock the Wii U for its tech although I understand some people being frustrated at times at Nintendo's unwillingness to push the tech side at all. Especially when the Wii looked like shit on most hdtv's.
The Wii U will be a fucking trainwreck :hurr
I just want to make it clear that I don't own a DS nor have I played AD on the DS nor have I taken public transit in a long time!
I have heard they are going batshit crazy.
They asked publishers and developers what they need in a next-gen system
EA, Activision, DICE, and Epic all insisted on raising the ceiling by what we would traditionally consider a generational leap.
Microsoft listened because they were told this would increase game sales and hardware adoption.
The Wii U will be a fucking trainwreck if they can't get four Wii U tablet-controllers to work with the thing.
I can imagine as a little kid getting pissed that Billy and Susie get to use a Wii U controller but Charlie and I have to use the Wiimote.
Sounds like a winning concept to me! :hurr
Seems like a problem with society as a whole than the Wii U. Children should really learn to share.
:lol excellent spin
This years E3 will be grand.
This years E3 will be grand.
a grand train wreck! last year e3 was fucking terrible,OH LOOK MORE SHOOTERS,MORE WAGGLES,MORE MARIO
my only hope? fucking smash bros 4 that's what,tough i really can't imagine what they can do to give it a shiny new polish considering they ran out of decent nintendo characters to put in it
i wish nintendo would stop making good games so i could just write off their home consoles for good.
If we want to get picky it was Sony that pushed the ceiling on portable console pricing to that level with the PSP. :teehee Can't blame Nintendo there.
If Microsoft is going insane with the specs and the rumors of the tablet/kinect inclusion hardware is true, I have to question how much they can expect to get away with regarding price. Will it be a repeat of 2005's premium and tard packs?
Microsoft says the use of entertainment apps has doubled year over year and, for the first time ever, more Xbox 360 users were firing up their consoles for entertainment purposes than multiplayer gaming.
"We've really seen this amazing explosion at Xbox the last four months that's honestly even surprised our own hopes and aspirations," Mehdi says.
NMA nails it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YBrIrXHg-A
One thing that I can say without getting in any trouble is that the launch line-up for the Wii U is going to surprise people. It's going to be pretty damn good.
Shane Shatterfield, Editor in Chief of Gametrailers.comQuoteOne thing that I can say without getting in any trouble is that the launch line-up for the Wii U is going to surprise people. It's going to be pretty damn good.
Andrex
:drool
NMA nails it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YBrIrXHg-A
i know this post is old but holy shit :rofl
:lol Holy fuck what is it and is there more of it?
Sunshine was a good game, god dammit
Shane Shatterfield, Editor in Chief of Gametrailers.comQuoteOne thing that I can say without getting in any trouble is that the launch line-up for the Wii U is going to surprise people. It's going to be pretty damn good.
Andrex
:drool
I keep forgetting this is an actual system that is coming out.
Shane Shatterfield, Editor in Chief of Gametrailers.comQuoteOne thing that I can say without getting in any trouble is that the launch line-up for the Wii U is going to surprise people. It's going to be pretty damn good.
Andrex
:drool
Every launch line up is declared great. Non-news.
Still, Pachter thinks the rumored consoles from Microsoft and Sony will be significantly more powerful, and that may spell long-term trouble. "If that is right, the Wii U will have limited appeal, and 'Xbots' and Sony fanboys will just wait for the upgrades to their favorite systems," Pachter said. "I really think the key is third party support, and from what I'm hearing, it is very light so far. Nintendo will be all right, they have a ton of cash, but I don't think they will get to the sales levels they are accustomed to with this device. I'm most interested in third-party support, and we should get an idea of that at E3."http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-04-16-wii-u-what-analysts-think-now (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-04-16-wii-u-what-analysts-think-now)
Shane Shatterfield, Editor in Chief of Gametrailers.comQuoteOne thing that I can say without getting in any trouble is that the launch line-up for the Wii U is going to surprise people. It's going to be pretty damn good.
Andrex
:drool
expectation:Oh God don't even joke about a HD 2D Metroid. Smash is a few years away since it's development didn't even start until Kid Icky was finished and even if they fast track the shit out of it no way it's a launch title. All aboard the F-Zero hype train?
2D metroid with hd sprites
a super smash game that feature like every game character ever
reality:
super lame touch screen minigame collection called WII TOUCH U
So many memories of Johnny Nightfraud and people like Nightfraud hyping the Wii up in 2006 are being conjured up here. But who will be the person this time to photograph themselves in baby's clothing when their predictions are dead wrong?
Haha Nighttrain. WTH happened to him anyway? What's his neogaf/Bore alt nowadays?
You'll get Nintendo Dogs HD and you'll like it!Bahahaha, great filter or greatest filter? I can write Nintendogs cause I'm special. :-*
Edit: Why can't I write "Nintendo Dogs"?
Edit 2: Gahhh!!!
I can write "Nintendogs" as well but I had to pony up $10 to demi's PayPal account.Pfft, pleb.
Edit: I'm sure you know how that went down Borys but that story was mostly for the kiddies like Andrex who can't fathom why people are scoffing at the "just you wait!" bullshit that we all heard six years ago.
So a bunch of games you could play already makes it a great launch?
So a bunch of games you could play already makes it a great launch?
But it's not the Batman Arkham City Whimsy Edition!
So a bunch of games you could play already makes it a great launch?
But it's not the Batman Arkham City Whimsy Edition!
(http://i.imgur.com/mEhG7l.jpg)
So they will change batman to this?
So many memories of Johnny Nightfraud and people like Nightfraud hyping the Wii up in 2006 are being conjured up here. But who will be the person this time to photograph themselves in baby's clothing when their predictions are dead wrong?
Haha Nighttrain. WTH happened to him anyway? What's his neogaf/Bore alt nowadays?
He presented himself as this huge insider to the Revolution (Wii). He said that his mind was blown at all of the awesome games soon to come out for it (which apparently would have had to have been Wii Sports or Wii Play; another example of his shameful lies) and that all haters would soon be silenced. The graphics were as good, if not better than the 360 and PS3.
I remember Nintards hanging off of this loser's every word and not one person questioned his bullshit. Once the specs and games came out, it was all over for this loser. He banked on the hopes that the Wii wasn't the piece of shit it really was, that it was going to be a shade or two worse than the 360/PS3, not Xbox 0.8. Nintards were crying foul, I created the name "Johnny Nightfraud", which was my only lasting accomplishment on NeoGAF, and people were wondering where this loser was. A few days later, he took these creepy ass pictures of him in baby clothing. Since he was a hairy motherfucker, it looked even more grotesque. Nintards, desperate to move on and already playing up the "Nintendo = innovation" card to compensate for weak software and hardware specs, laughed at this, called this an acceptable apology, and moved on.
After he lost his industry insidah status at GAF, he pretty much turned into an obnoxious cunt who made an ass out of himself to Jane Pinckard and other 1up employees. This dumbfuckery continued until he was banned sometime in the fall of 2007 for shitting on American troops. I think bishoptl was the one to pull the trigger.
I'm not sure what happened to him but he seems to have abandoned his Johnny Nighttrain name. Not sure what he goes by now if he goes by anything these days. Given that he was fucking desperate to make a name for himself in the video game journalism business, I'm assuming he is still hanging around somewhere. Maybe he has a NeoGAF alt and is keeping his head down.
Edit: I'm sure you know how that went down Borys but that story was mostly for the kiddies like Andrex who can't fathom why people are scoffing at the "just you wait!" bullshit that we all heard six years ago.
After he lost his industry insidah status at GAF, he pretty much turned into an obnoxious cunt who made an ass out of himself to Jane Pinckard and other 1up employees. This dumbfuckery continued until he was banned sometime in the fall of 2007 for shitting on American troops. I think bishoptl was the one to pull the trigger.
wait - people are buying into Ideaman? i assumed he was one of us taking the piss?
I nearly lost it at the "camera tracks your eyes and alters the rendering priority of the Wii U depending on where you are looking" so i assumed he was a joke character.... ?
He is supposedly some french journalist or something like that.Started posting because he wants to defend Nintendo from misinformation and other vile attacks made by anti-Nintendo forces.
If Nintendo fans were a member of the Young Ones, they'd totally be Rick.
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lepuh2FPeh1qfkun9o1_500.jpg)
After he lost his industry insidah status at GAF, he pretty much turned into an obnoxious cunt who made an ass out of himself to Jane Pinckard and other 1up employees. This dumbfuckery continued until he was banned sometime in the fall of 2007 for shitting on American troops. I think bishoptl was the one to pull the trigger.
This is incorrect
I don't know, I could see the WiiU lineup being pretty good in the spectrum of launch software. I'm expecting Arkham City, some sort of Call of Duty, Madden, etc. Arkham City with DLC content already packed-in might entice me.
Is Hyoushi even a mod at GAF anymore? ???
We should have a Hyoushi one. Just so we can find out more about him.We already do, it's the ***** about another forum thread.
This is a Wii U thread not Hyoushi one :maf
Nintendo plans on pushing Wii U into bold new digital territory for a console. In an investor's conference today, global president Satoru Iwata revealed his company plans to allow consumers the ability to purchase Wii U software either in a traditional, packaged form or as a digital download. The publisher plans on having this service in place with the system's launch.
The Nintendo 3DS will feature the digital/package option first, starting this August with New Super Mario Bros. 2. 3DS owners will be able to download the game to their SD card, either by signing on to the eShop or by purchasing a download code in a retail location.
No further details were given. Iwata did not indicate if Wii U would see any hardware modifications to accomodate this new strategy. Previous iterations of the system did not feature a hard drive.
does it even have a harddrive?
Oh man, after ripping all my Wii games last week (finally) andplanning to sell the physical copies offchucking those suckers in the trash I started to worry I'd build up another big collection with Wii U, now that everything will be digital from day one I don't have to. :hyper :hyper
:bow Panic mode Nintendo :bow2does it even have a harddrive?
Last we heard it was flash memory, likely 16-32 GB. Who knows if that's true anymore, guess we'll find out at E3.
In any case, USB drives are compatible from day one.
Oh man, after ripping all my Wii games last week (finally) andplanning to sell the physical copies offchucking those suckers in the trash I started to worry I'd build up another big collection with Wii U, now that everything will be digital from day one I don't have to. :hyper :hyper
:bow Panic mode Nintendo :bow2does it even have a harddrive?
Last we heard it was flash memory, likely 16-32 GB. Who knows if that's true anymore, guess we'll find out at E3.
In any case, USB drives are compatible from day one.
so download full retail games, so long as they are only 500mb or what ever small limit nintendo decides to set.
so download full retail games, so long as they are only 500mb or what ever small limit nintendo decides to set.
How long until HXC Nintendo Fans start cussing out Crytek and call them a shitty second tier studio? (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=471551)
Two weeks, but of course that could change at the eleventh hour as I've heard happens sometimes (most noticeably with Momo, which is only noticeable because he keeps bringing it up every other week.)???
I soared on wings of digitalness, only for the harsh sun of GAF to burn my wings. :'( Well whatever, I won't be selling those games now. Chucking those suckers in the trash. I just really don't want a physical collection anymore.
Why don't you just give the games away or something? Really, legally speaking -- if you care to get anal about it (and I honestly don't) -- throwing them in the trash isn't really the correct move. The reason selling them isn't kosher is that you're reaping the benefits of giving up your claim to ownership of a title (i.e. making money), while still retaining the right to play the game as though you own it.
However, in the 0% likelihood that the police catch wind of your massive digital Wii collection and decide to inquire as to the legitimacy of your right to play these titles, assuring them that you legally purchased the games but threw them away doesn't prove your claim to ownership. As such, just give them to somebody.
And no, I'm not fishing for them myself. I don't want your Wii games.
Racing Sims sure have been successful on Nintendo consoles.
(http://www.gonintendo.com/content/uploads/images/2012_4/walmart-wii-u.jpg)
Apparently Wallmart had Wii at $250 before anyone else
that's because they are chicken *cluck cluck cluuuuuuuuuuuck* ;)
I'm sure they'll let $349 rumours run - similar to the Wii/3DS situation - let people comment on the price and adjust accordingly.
The exact price where a Wii U becomes interesting to me is 258.87 U.S. dollars.You're probably not going to be getting a WiiU anytime soon then.
There will always be specialsThe exact price where a Wii U becomes interesting to me is 258.87 U.S. dollars.You're probably not going to be getting a WiiU anytime soon then.
I wouldn't be surprised if Wii U was $349. After all, the 3DS launched at $249.Yeah and that was such an unmitigated disaster they they dropped it almost immediately. I'd like to think they'll be less stupid this time. The fact that they continue to announce 3DS stuff like NSMB2 (nevermind that it's really the third one) makes me think they may have wised up a little bit and that there'll be at least a few classic IPs present on WiiU at E3.
poor andrex,he can't afford a 3DS,how's he going to buy a 350$ machine?
i weep for the little guy :'(
And besides... you don't own a 3DS. IF you can't afford Fish and Chips, don't dare dream about eating caviar. Just saying.
Quote8-4 did the (great) translation localization for Tri.
just to avoid any unwelcome suggestions that any "INDURTY SERSEES" i may suggest are 8-4 related i don't get anything from John TV, Sprks, MArk etc. Not a single thing. Infact, i might have mentioned this before, i've actively told John/Mark that i -don't want to know- any insider details.
Just saying - as "yeah... right" as it sounds, the 8-4 guys are -EXTREMELY- professional and keep things water tight.
QuoteDCHARLIE OF THE BORE CONFIRMS MH FOR WII U LAUNCH, PISSES OFF SOURCES
please go ahead, it's incorrect lol then i'll just get accussed of trolling MH, Capcom, Nintendo again! ;)
(it'd only sell 800k copies anyways....)
the titles are so blatantly obvious that when they are announced people will kick themselves that they didn't see them coming.
As said before - this is the reason why the specs largely don't matter and why Nintendo are NDA'ing the b-jesus out of people regarding the hardware. I've heard the NDA described as "utterly terrifying" and even the loosest lip sources are saying nothing at all, even ex-employee types. So ... yeah... Nintendo know what they are doing.
Lol- go on - i want to hear the definitive theory on why i wouldn't be hyped over a Nintendo game. Go on... i'm all ears.
I already told you there is no MH 3DS for US at this point in time. I can't be any clearer than that.
That might change - but it... depends... and i don't see it changing.
QuoteAs hyped. Your tease clearly indicated something more enticing than another Nintendo game.
Am I wrong?
yes
look at who you're arguing with, charlie
someone who wants to own as many obscure hardware platforms as he can (I so want a Visteon GBA) I don't even want that.
Speaking in an investor Q&A following its financial report last week, Iwata explained that the platform holder has learned from mistakes made with the Wii.
While that console succeeded in attracting new customers with more casual titles such as Wii Sports, he admitted Nintendo had then struggled to convince core gamers to take the platform seriously, which negatively impacted the system's long term success.
"The Wii was able to reach a large number of new consumers who had never played games before by bringing hands-on experiences with its Wii Sports and Wii Fit," he explained.
"However, we could not adequately create the situation that such new consumers played games frequently or for long, consistent periods. As a result, we could not sustain a good level of profit.
"Moreover, regrettably, what we prioritised in order to reach out to the new audience was a bit too far from what we prioritised for those who play games as their hobby. Consequently, we presume some people felt that the Wii was not a game system for them or they were not willing to play with the Wii even though some compelling games had been released."
Accordingly, Iwata explained, it decided not to flood the 3DS's early release slate with casual games, instead prioritising core titles such as Super Mario 3D Land, Kid Icarus: Uprising, Ocarina of Time 3D and Mario Kart 7. It intends to take a similar approach with the Wii U when it launches later this year.
"Once consumers have a notion that 'this system is not for us', we have learned that it is extremely difficult to change their perceptions later," said Iwata.
"Therefore, in promoting the Nintendo 3DS and the Wii U, we have announced that we would like 'width' and 'depth' to coexist.
"With the Nintendo DS and the Wii, the approach of 'width' was well accepted by many people; however, what we did in terms of 'depth' was not satisfactory for some consumers. This time, we would like consumers to be satisfied in both aspects.
"In order to do so, we started to work on the 'depth' aspect first, and the current and existing software you can see for the Nintendo 3DS is based on that idea. In the future, the approach will evolve," he continued.
"Our approach for the Wii U is basically the same. By doing so continuously, we are expecting that the number of game users per household will increase and as the gaming population increases, we believe we can create a sustainable video game market."
Consequently, we presume some people felt that the Wii was not a game system for them or they were not willing to play with the Wii even though some compelling games had been released.
Reggie though.... whilst okay on stage and a nice guy, he's little more than a character in a suit. Having a Reggie Avatar is up there with having a Sonic avatar.
I would argue that many releases NoA is skipping over aren't exactly lucrative products in the first place. I really don't think stuff like Captain Rainbow or Soma Bringer would have made a blip in this hemishphere. My issue with NoA is that they have been repeatedly not marketing stuff like Excitebots and Sin and Punishment 2, which goes on to bomba as expected. That said, I don't much care for Reggie, but his job is to be a disingenuine asshat anyway, so I guess I can't hate him. Honestly I'm hard pressed to think of games that had no reason not to come over in the past. Right now that would be the new Fire Emblem, but we still got E3 to see if they'll deliver.
Captain Rainbow was not a viable product for North America. Soma Bringer may have been. The other DS Fire Emblem would have sold 300k, guaranteed. Here's some stuff they skipped over that I feel would have been reasonably good sellers (if released in a timely manner) and would have filled holes in the schedule well: (on DS) Card Hero, Fire Emblem, Band Brothers/Jam with the Band, Soma Bringer, Chibi Robo, Project Hacker, Jet Impulse, Last Window, Archaic Sealed Heat, (on Wii) Fatal Frame, Disaster Report, and Another Code R.
No, they're not all huge sellers, but they'd all earn their keep, particularly given half of them got localized into English by the UK branch anyway. I could see if Nintendo passing on most of them if they were overloaded with games, but they weren't. They chose to starve rather than eat anything but caviar. I'm not even going to touch on the ridiculous *farce* that is the American Virtual Console.
Reggie sucks. He's got to go.
I wish he were just a character in a suit. When you look at how NoA is run compared to NoE and NoJ, it's pathetic. Guy's got a real "if it doesn't sell a million, we're not interested" attitude and NoA (in terms of software releases) has greatly suffered under his tenure.
I'm really curious to see what launch titles Wii U will have. 3DS was a wasteland for a long time. By the time it was worth considering it dropped nearly $100 with deals. The same old safe 2D Mario, Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, etc. blend will be a shame. I mean, I'll be down for some same old Zelda. But that NSMB2 announcement was as unexciting as GoWA and Halo 4.
I bet WiiU ends up launching with only four games.
I bet WiiU ends up launching with only four games.
I bet WiiU ends up launching with only four games.
Four games and 20 6-12 month old ports.
I bet WiiU ends up launching with only four games.
Four games and 20 6-12 month old ports.
Sounds like the Vita's "best launch evar."
I bet WiiU ends up launching with only four games.
Four games and 20 6-12 month old ports.
Sounds like the Vita's "best launch evar."
"the <wii U level of performance> is perfect anything else is over kill"
Still, it's all good - Nthings must secretly be thrilled about X720 and PS4 - it's like a window into the future.
Then why even upgrade from GameCube tech? 480p: good enough for me!
andrex and dcharlie need to just fuck already
Point is there's always going to be a more powerful machine out there than whatever console you get, kind of pointless to throw stones.
i have heard dcharlie described as "power bottom", but people can change.
Whoa talk about hivemind...
Anyway, I really fear for the future of the WiiU... It might be the last home console from Nintendo.
Turned off by the power?i have heard dcharlie described as "power bottom", but people can change.
Not if we're gonna do it he isn't.
Monster Hunter 3 would have been an HD game if not for it taking off on the PSP - but people blamed the Wii of course, because people are dumb.Kindly explain the reasoning behind this circus talk
It went to Wii so they could port the game to PSP or Nintendo's upcoming handheld (turns out they ended up doing both - a bunch of assets went to the next PSP version, whole enchilada went to 3DS). It was so obvious what the plan was before this stuff played out, how can you be confused about it afterwards?Let's look at this
It went to Wii so they could port the game to PSP or Nintendo's upcoming handheld (turns out they ended up doing both - a bunch of assets went to the next PSP version, whole enchilada went to 3DS). It was so obvious what the plan was before this stuff played out, how can you be confused about it afterwards?Let's look at this
It was planned for Playstation 3.
Playstation 3 was floundering
Game gets moved to Wii
Nintendo sells very attractive bundles of the game + console
All while Capcom puts out a fuck load of software for the HD twins with far less sales potential than a MH game. (Which should tell you cost was not the biggest issue here)
It's pretty clear to me it's a combination of the PS3 bombing and Nintendo offering aggressive bundling and visibility that made them jump over.
There was zero point in putting it on PS3, but they also didn't expect the monster sales of the PSP versions on the Wii. They put it on Wii so they could comfortably port it like they did the PS2 versions. Your line of reasoning simply piles on additional factors that almost go without saying - the success of the portable versions is very obviously the dominant and overriding one. Come on.I'm saying the overriding factor here was Nintendo offering a better deal than Sony(In effect, they offered fuck all). Comfortable porting was just a very convenient and helpful bonus. Look at the case of Sengoku Basara: Samurai Heroes does this have more sales potential than Monster Hunter? I would say no. Why would they decide to port that to PS3 and not Monster Hunter Tri then? Nintendo must have offered a sweet ass deal to keep Tri on the Wii only, and we saw that by way of bundling and ads.
Then why even upgrade from GameCube tech? 480p: good enough for me!
haha, let me take it one further
<zipping sound>
<lob>
Andrex : hold on .... this is never going to fit in my mouth.... can you come back in , say, 6 years?
<6 years pass>
Andrex : my mouth is wide and flappy from years of spouting rubbish - now i can take your cock on with no wo... wait what? It's gotten bigger? :( Do you have a dildo toy roughly the same as it was ? you do!!! oh that's excellent! This rubber toy substitute is more than enough "cock" for me.
as per Iwata: Capcom approached Nintendo about Monster Hunter + 3DS, not the other way round.This changes nothing I said :lol
That actually makes the whole situation a bit more interesting - especially given they apparently went to Nintendo right after MH3rdP shipped.
DAMAGED CONSOLES :hyper :hyper :hyper
WEEEEOOOO ZOMBIE FUCK YES
So...uh, did we get any new spec details yet?
So a developer in Santa Monica has been showing off the Wii U version of their game to certain journalists in the area this week.
omg, the GAF WiiU thread. They're currently discussing - with much excitement - the possibility of playing Skyrim. In 2013
omg, the GAF WiiU thread. They're currently discussing - with much excitement - the possibility of playing Skyrim. In 2013
:lol
There are no tards like nintards.
... i really should do something with Everyonehatesnintendo.comHave you shopped Reggie's head onto Ray Romano yet? Because that is the first thing I would do if I owned such a domain. 8)
reading that Wii U thread i have one concern : is it possible to die of deja vu?
Gamasutra: I know it's under wraps, but you guys are probably feeling pretty okay about Unreal Engine 4.
Tim Sweeney: Yeah, we're starting a behind-closed-doors showing of the engine to developers; this is part of our very early ramp-up cycle. We went through this cycle with Unreal Engine 3 starting in 2003 and 2004. At some point we'll make public announcements and ramp up to the point where developers are shipping games, but it's very early right now. We're aiming very high, and the intended platforms this is aimed at haven't even been announced.
BLUE STEEL: THE DER-ICK ZOO-LAN-DER SHOOTER.
QuoteGamasutra: I know it's under wraps, but you guys are probably feeling pretty okay about Unreal Engine 4.
Tim Sweeney: Yeah, we're starting a behind-closed-doors showing of the engine to developers; this is part of our very early ramp-up cycle. We went through this cycle with Unreal Engine 3 starting in 2003 and 2004. At some point we'll make public announcements and ramp up to the point where developers are shipping games, but it's very early right now. We're aiming very high, and the intended platforms this is aimed at haven't even been announced.
ShockingAlberto's basically said although Wii U is "easily" better than the two current HD twins ("by a country mile" were his exact words), the "generational leap doesn't apply to it." Likened the gap between Wii U and PS4/720 to "Witcher 2 on low settings" versus on high settings, and likened the gap between Wii U and PS3/360 to Xbox versus PS2.Why are you doing this?
AWIIENS : COLON MARINES -
ALL IN GAME TEXTURES REPLACED WITH YOUR WII FACE, USE THE WII U PAD TO LOOK UP YOUR OWN ARSE FOR A CLUE.
Doing what?Pinning your hopes/expectations on the word of ShockingAlberto.
Doing what?Pinning your hopes/expectations on the word of ShockingAlberto.
Doing what?Pinning your hopes/expectations on the word of ShockingAlberto.
Latest GAF-originated rumor is that Nintendo's replaced the sliders with clicky sticks, however that sounds like fanboy wishing to me so I don't really buy it. I guess it's possible, though.
ShockingAlberto's basically said although Wii U is "easily" better than the two current HD twins ("by a country mile" were his exact words), the "generational leap doesn't apply to it." Likened the gap between Wii U and PS4/720 to "Witcher 2 on low settings" versus on high settings, and likened the gap between Wii U and PS3/360 to Xbox versus PS2.
"realtime GI" is a PR/ marketing term being thrown around even this gen. I will belive realtime global illumination when I see it on PS4/ Xbox 720 with Kinect 2.0.
Currently even super high-end PCs running tech demos with REAL realtime GI show only some balls bouncing around in empty room @ 20 fps.
Nowhere near real outdoor game (think Quake 1 vs Just Cause 2).
ShockingAlberto's basically said although Wii U is "easily" better than the two current HD twins ("by a country mile" were his exact words), the "generational leap doesn't apply to it." Likened the gap between Wii U and PS4/720 to "Witcher 2 on low settings" versus on high settings, and likened the gap between Wii U and PS3/360 to Xbox versus PS2.
So basically Nintendo is going to have to hope Sony doesn't debut some stupid tablet controller at E3 for release this year.
Can you imagine the shitstorm when Darksiders 2 and all the other 3rd party games come out on the Wii U and have aliasing problems, framerate problems and sub-HD issues?
nfans, so far, think every PS360 port on the Wii U will be void of those issues :lol
Dont they already have that theoretical setup with Vita as a makeshift Tablet though?
It would be absolutely hilarious if Sony did that at E3/TGS just to counter WiiU."Oh look,we have the same thing as competition,we will not be left behind"
I'm pretty sure the next Xbox is going to have a tablet. Pretty, pretty sure.
It's a Google grudge.
Can you imagine the shitstorm when Darksiders 2 and all the other 3rd party games come out on the Wii U and have aliasing problems, framerate problems and sub-HD issues?
nfans, so far, think every PS360 port on the Wii U will be void of those issues :lol
not to sounds like an ntard but i don't know why people worry so much about the graphix,i'm much more worried about what the heck all those japanese developer are going to do,they had budget problem with hd titles and sucky result on the wii,so what happens when now there is a console that combine the two and the alternative gives them even bigger budget problem?Learn better workflow techniques and standards so they don't end up spending 6 years on a game that takes the west 2 years?
Learn better workflow techniques and standards so they don't end up spending 6 years on a game that takes the west 2 years?
ShockingAlberto's basically said although Wii U is "easily" better than the two current HD twins ("by a country mile" were his exact words), the "generational leap doesn't apply to it." Likened the gap between Wii U and PS4/720 to "Witcher 2 on low settings" versus on high settings, and likened the gap between Wii U and PS3/360 to Xbox versus PS2.
It's a Google grudge.
On the Google side Sony's actually pretty cool. Make pretty looking phones with good cameras, and their Google TV... TVs were a pretty great deal when they came out. Shame Sony may axe that division altogether... Would rather they get out of gaming.
ShockingAlberto's basically said although Wii U is "easily" better than the two current HD twins ("by a country mile" were his exact words), the "generational leap doesn't apply to it." Likened the gap between Wii U and PS4/720 to "Witcher 2 on low settings" versus on high settings, and likened the gap between Wii U and PS3/360 to Xbox versus PS2.
We really need a :smh emoticon badly. This post is disgraceful.
Johnny Nightfraud never forget.
Gaming actually resembles something akin to profit for Sony. They also have the most versatile display of first party might.
Gaming actually resembles something akin to profit for Sony. They also have the most versatile display of first party might.
As in "might release a game every 6 years or so" ;)
I am really glad Sony got rid of the resistance team.
(http://nintendoeverything.com/wp-content/gallery/wii-u-survey/wii_u_survey-4.jpg)
So it's a lower res iPad with 1/100th the functionality?
That you cannot buy without a white PS3.
Wii U is white and has PS3-level tech inside :|
I literally cannot wait for next month when it's confirmed without a shadow of a doubt that the WiiU is barely stronger than a PS3. Just to see the collective Ntard hivemind move the goal posts from "it's going to be twice as powerful as current systems, and competitive with next gen ones!" to "well regardless of whether it's as strong as a PS3 or a PS4, at least I get to play Mario in HD"
Well, their EA partners console game will fail. But their facebook games will save them!
how would you, Link Zelda Gannon, design NEXT-GEN Mario? does Mario really need next-gen, bumpmapped, HDRed, motion blurred, DOF'd, stencil shadowed, bokeh filtered graphics?
Real talk:
how would you, Link Zelda Gannon, design NEXT-GEN Mario? does Mario really need next-gen, bumpmapped, HDRed, motion blurred, DOF'd, stencil shadowed, bokeh filtered graphics?
I do not want this kind of Mario (nor Zelda):
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/arebs.jpg[/img
Cell shading seems like the only good idea, no?
As for Mario himself, I dunno, just use his Galaxy or Brawl model. It's pretty much how Mario should look. Maybe add more polys so his nose is a perfect sphere or something.
CPU--little faster or about the same,but backed with some Nintendo shit
I wonder what I'd find on a top posters list for the Pokemon thread...
I remember when I used to spend a lot of time on HylianTom's zelda website, Nintendo Dojo, GC Cafe, etc. Oh man
E3 is going to be utterly amazing ;) :lol :lol
Oh E3
Dear god please don't let me have to go
PLEEEEEEEEEEASE DON'T LET ME HAVE TO GO
E3 is going to be utterly amazing ;) :lol :lol
oh god, the wii u hardware :lol
oh god, the wii u hardware :lolIt's sub-current HD gen twins, isn't it?
Oh E3:lol
Dear god please don't let me have to go
PLEEEEEEEEEEASE DON'T LET ME HAVE TO GO
It would only be cool if that MS/Sony tablet was super powerful and actually WAS the console.
I hope MS's conference is as bad as it sounds. It'll help with the depression that'll be inflicted on me after Sony's...
And I'll have a far better time sitting at home watching it unfold on my screen as I swig beer
(http://nintendoeverything.com/wp-content/gallery/wii-u-survey/wii_u_survey-4.jpg)
So it's a lower res iPad with 1/100th the functionality?
Apparently they renigged or something
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=35468866&postcount=10922
Quotewhile little kids ask for ipads now, by next christmas...
:teehee
It means he knows for sure another console manufacturer is releasing something by next christmas, probably with a tablet controller. He's been really itchy about the hinty lately.
Analog circle pads are better for a thing with a flat back, sticks are better for something with grips, latter is superior.
EDIT: Oh god I have a psychic link with Andrex: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=38025887&postcount=643
Question: why would MS go the tablet route if they have Kinect tech? Wandless motion controls seem nextgen compared to touchscreens.
(IMO tablets are a step back from motion tech).
No one can be murdered for my saying so, and I already did say so, so I'm going to say it again:
Microsoft is testing/planning a tablet for the next Xbox. Right now.
I understand this perfectly. Question was why take a step back (IMO tablets are a step back from motion tech).For me motion tech was and is the antithesis of what I want out of gaming, so any move away from that is positive. After a day working the last thing I want is to be saddled with shit like motion calibration, wrist flicks, dodgy movement detection and anything that possibly needs further interaction than sitting down and playing.
I thought the staggered release would be the case with the Wii, but it turned out to be around a month difference. Moving back to that would be an interesting decision.
I might be going crazy but i seem to think i got my US machine before my japanese machine ... ?
Mr. Pachter has changed its tune
WiiU=will do fine
3DS=dead
hmm
QuoteAliens: CM delayed to Feb 2013.
Clue of the launch date of WiiU or just the death of interest in this game by Nfans?
8)
you'll be seeing a lot of "how can the machine be delayed when they never announced a launch date!?"
speculating that it'll be a timed exclusive for Wii U.
Time for the ol' ninfag dream Wii U rumour mill:QuoteNintendo is set to detail its plans for the next-gen Wii U console at E3 in a couple of weeks, but a developer may have beaten the platform-holder to it, with an Italian forum poster claiming to be a developer at Ubisoft Milan alleging a huge number of details about the upcoming console.
Chief among the list - which should be considered rumour at this point - are Ubisoft's plans for Wii U games, Unreal Engine 4/DX11 compatability, release date and hardware specs - check out the translated bullet points below:
- Wii U supports DirectX 11 and is already running Unreal Engine 4
- Wii U will support to touch-screen controllers
- The console has 2GB of RAM, 560MB dedicated to the OS
- The launch date will be 23 November
- Launch price hasn't been decided but will be between $350 - $450 (£220 - £285)
- Rayman Legends, The Avengers, Assassin's Creed 3, Just Dance 4 are all on Ubisoft's Wii U schedule, with Killer Freaks from Outer Space set to arrive weeks after launch.
- There are currently multiple versions of the console with developers
- Graphics are powered by the Radeon HD 6770 chipset
- Assassin's Creed 3 will run at 60fps at 1080p, compared to 720p on PS3 and Xbox 360
- Wii U will come with pre-installed software
- Crytek, EA and Valve are all working on Wii U
- Valve are working on a digital distribution platform and Portal ports
- Wii U will support achievements
- Wii U's UI will be customisable
- The new button has some link to the Wii Vitality Sensor
- The trigger buttons won't be analogue
Bear in mind, all of the above is pure speculation - some of which we've heard before - and details could have been lost in translation.
Italian forum poster :lol
MAGUS? :rofl
- Wii U supports DirectX 11 and is already running Unreal Engine 4
How the fuck does a videogame console OS take up 1/4 of the available RAM?
Quote- Wii U supports DirectX 11 and is already running Unreal Engine 4
DX11 on 2006 tech ???
- Assassin's Creed 3 will run at 60fps at 1080p, compared to 720p on PS3 and Xbox 360
it's not a 6770, i can tell you that :loloh boy
Yeah, that stuff doesn't match up with what I've heard. At all.
Watch it be closer to my 5770
Same dude posted Ass Creed 3 for Vita and apparently there is something burning under that rock.
what does it mean ???
One developer working on Wii U, who wished to remain anonymous, told Eurogamer Wii U ports will at best look as good as PS3 and Xbox 360 games. However, he indicated gamers will only see its true graphics capabilities with games built from the ground up for Wii U later in its life cycle.
I can't wait to pay top dollar for something slightly better than 5-year-old technology
Oh wait
Nah, it'll have at least 16 GB of flash memory, if not 32. They're going to put full retail games on the eShop, and relative to the Vita the 3DS had a good amount of storage (2GB built in, 2 GB SD card bundled with every system.) This is the one area I doubt they'll be extremely skimpy with; the Wii's storage bit them in the ass, hard, and the 3DS shows they learned from that.
Nintendo really learned the importance of an online marketplace
Nintendo really learned the importance of an online marketplace
Did I say this, douchenozzle?
Nah, it'll have at least 16 GB of flash memory, if not 32. They're going to put full retail games on the eShop, and relative to the Vita the 3DS had a good amount of storage (2GB built in, 2 GB SD card bundled with every system.) This is the one area I doubt they'll be extremely skimpy with; the Wii's storage bit them in the ass, hard, and the 3DS shows they learned from that.
Go back to paying $70 for a 4 GBSDcard.
I didn't say they were cultivating a "decent online store" at all. Just stating a fact. Iwata has said retail games will be available digitally for Wii U on day one.
QuoteIwata has said retail games will be available digitally for Wii U on day one.
Nintendo's Gambit : break a promise or delay the console to 2041 when they finally get it working in an acceptable manner?
I would have been cheapest for them to not stuff 4 GB into 3DS boxes but they did it anyways. If anything, Sony's been cutting corners lately in their blind pursuit of POWAH.
That's what I meant. 2+2=4 in the box.
Also I didn't say it was cheap, that's the point. ???
Andrex vs Takao::diarrhea vs vomit
Andrex vs Takao::diarrhea vs vomit
Goku can kick Pikachu's ass, duder.
QuoteSupposedly it's gonna be ready for NSMB2 in August.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwrkVB7JYIA
Andrex vs Takao::diarrhea vs vomit
Goku can kick Pikachu's ass, duder.
Barry can kick Ikki's whuss ass though.
Especially XERDNA!Barry.
Andrex vs Takao::diarrhea vs vomit
Goku can kick Pikachu's ass, duder.
Barry can kick Ikki's whuss ass though.
Especially XERDNA!Barry.
I have no idea what you're talking about/
:dizzy
Yeah, that stuff doesn't match up with what I've heard. At all.
Can I take a wild guess and you tell me how far off I am? Hot-warm-cold would be enough.
- 1.5 GB RAM
- 16 GB flash memory
- 3-4 GHz clocked CPU
- USB 3.0 support :hyper
- Shaders? ??? Instead of the <insert any previous Nintendo system since 2000 here> way of having it all fixed function.
- No firm price yet, but likely around $300
- No firm date yet
- Clicky sticks
- Two UPads max during gameplay
I'm kinda clueless when it comes to vid cards but I think it's likely the Radeon HD 6770 comparisons are apt, if not somewhat misleading since comparing raw consoles to PC's is FUBAR.
This is the picture I have based on wild GAF rumors tempered with my own awesome wisdom and insight.
Gaming PC it is!
QuoteSupposedly it's gonna be ready for NSMB2 in August.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwrkVB7JYIA
that it can.
Yeah, that stuff doesn't match up with what I've heard. At all.
that it can.
Well what more could you want?
something a little more 2012 maybe? We're not all stuck in the past Andy.
Isn't F-Zero and Star Fox already connected? not sure about specifics.
After E3, the entirety of the GAF Nintenthing army will be in defense and damage control mode till about January next year. Might as well route neogaf.com to null on your router for a few monthsSomething is seriously wrong when I'm the lone voice of reason in keeping expectations of E3 in check in the Wii U Speculation thread on GAF.
Distance yourself from them - they've got "madhypeitis"
No matter what Nintendo show at E3 that crowd is going to go "wooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooowwww!!!!!"
nah,that will be the fun partFor me and you? Yes
Isn't F-Zero and Star Fox already connected? not sure about specifics.
No real doubts. But when has a video game system ever been named and people loved it? They always suck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JElywbkSbY
No real doubts. But when has a video game system ever been named and people loved it? They always suck
the forthcoming "Xbox BBC"
It's not surprising (re: UE4). Honestly, even if it did it wouldn't matter to me.
I figure if people here buy the Wii U it's going to be for Nintendo games. Whether it's 360/PS3 level or higher, it's still huge leap from the PS2-era Nintendo had trapped themselves in. I was playing Smash Bros Brawl recently and it's an incredible looking game; same with the other big Nintendo games like Galaxy, Skyward Sword, and DKCR. I mean, the Zelda tech demo last year did nothing for me because it wasn't a video game or anything, but I'm eager to see what Nintendo will show. tl;dr: low standard getting less low.
THQ's market value is like 40 million right now. I don't think they can afford to release anything these days.
radioheadrule83 is good people. He's a 3DS bud whom I've exchanged doodle cocks with.
I was just thinking that Warioware on Wii U could be pretty cool
well if magoose can't think of anything, i'm sure the guys who make wario ware couldn't think of anything
after all, he's so very clever
The next generation of consoles starts in 2013, if all goes according to developers’ plans. In an anonymous questionnaire, multiple industry professionals told IGN that they plan to release games for the next Microsoft and Sony consoles before January 1, 2014.
Multiple developers also intend to launch software for an unannounced platform next year.
The end is nigh.
To further signal the winding down of the current console generation, approximately 60% of respondents have no plans to release games for the Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, or Nintendo Wii after 2013. Of course, this means some 40% intend to keep at current-gen releases after next year. To that point, an anonymous developer told IGN, “I would not be surprised if something atypical cannibalizes the market, maybe even the Xbox 360 itself.”
From a hardware perspective, nearly 80% of respondents said Microsoft’s next console is the easiest to work with, and the overwhelming majority suspect it will be the sales leader over the next five years.
The ease of use compared to other consoles is assuredly attractive, too. By comparison, 63% of developers who spoke to IGN said the Wii U would be the most challenging platform to develop for. One creator went as far as saying, “we won’t be working on Wii U due to these complexities,” while another lamented the difficulty of moving innovative games unique to Wii U to other platforms. This poses the question: Will Nintendo once again need to rely primarily on first-party games to propel platform success? At any rate, the Wii U’s 2012 release window gives it a distinct advantage: time.
This information is based on survey responses from 35 video game developers IGN trusts. Look for more information on next generation consoles at IGN soon.
So is it true that Nintendo isn't letting anyone air their press conference?
I can't imagine this will have any ground breaking news.
Is Rayman this year?
So they got rid of the crappy looking 3d on this huh?
Is Rayman this year?
(http://i.imgur.com/qqlEw.jpg)
This and NSMBU will give some great multiplayer platform goodness right at the start of Wii U's life. Should be good.
Is Rayman this year?
(http://i.imgur.com/qqlEw.jpg)
This and NSMBU will give some great multiplayer platform goodness right at the start of Wii U's life. Should be good.
Andrex, let's be real here. You don't even own a 3DS yet, you ain't gonna own one of these until 2015.
Where are you PC gamers?
Where are you indie Steam games?
lol at people hyping Ubisoft bullshots
:lol
I don't doubt that this game will look great but,
Ubisoft always posts ubersampled bullshots,always.Not so successful here,I see jaggies :D
I don't doubt that this game will look great but,
Ubisoft always posts ubersampled bullshots,always.Not so successful here,I see jaggies :D
Watch da trailer. :wag
I don't doubt that this game will look great but,
Ubisoft always posts ubersampled bullshots,always.Not so successful here,I see jaggies :D
Watch da trailer. :wag
It looks worse in the trailer, is this just ninthing overreaction over finally being "HD"?
I don't doubt that this game will look great but,
Ubisoft always posts ubersampled bullshots,always.Not so successful here,I see jaggies :D
Watch da trailer. :wag
It looks worse in the trailer, is this just ninthing overreaction over finally being "HD"?
I don't doubt that this game will look great but,
Ubisoft always posts ubersampled bullshots,always.Not so successful here,I see jaggies :D
Watch da trailer. :wag
It looks worse in the trailer, is this just ninthing overreaction over finally being "HD"?
Is this the anti-Nintendo brigade downplaying how good this game looks? ::)
Is this a real or timed exclusive?
I can't believe there is still debates about the power of this thing, it's a fucking 360 ntards :patel
Got invited to the WiiU Experience in Seattle on September 6th. Who wants to come with me and kill some whimsy?
Got invited to the WiiU Experience in Seattle on September 6th. Who wants to come with me and kill some whimsy?
Not talking about legends( I didn't even knew it was a different Rayman game until yesterday) just the Weeoooooo in general, one of it's launch killer apps looks worse than any other shooter coming out this winter and all the nintendo published titles look like fucking wii games smh.
Got invited to the WiiU Experience in Seattle on September 6th. Who wants to come with me and kill some whimsy?
Take Prole with you :lol
Not talking about legends( I didn't even knew it was a different Rayman game until yesterday) just the Weeoooooo in general, one of it's launch killer apps looks worse than any other shooter coming out this winter and all the nintendo published titles look like fucking wii games smh.
You mean Zombie U? I thought it looks great. Not BF3 great but great nonetheless.
Not talking about legends( I didn't even knew it was a different Rayman game until yesterday) just the Weeoooooo in general, one of it's launch killer apps looks worse than any other shooter coming out this winter and all the nintendo published titles look like fucking wii games smh.
You mean Zombie U? I thought it looks great. Not BF3 great but great nonetheless.
It looks great for a 2007 game.
Looks much better than COD games.
Got invited to the WiiU Experience in Seattle on September 6th. Who wants to come with me and kill some whimsy?
Take Prole with you :lol
Got invited to the WiiU Experience in Seattle on September 6th. Who wants to come with me and kill some whimsy?
Got invited to the WiiU Experience in Seattle on September 6th. Who wants to come with me and kill some whimsy?
Take Prole with you :lol
Cruncheons on the road pls
Got invited to the WiiU Experience in Seattle on September 6th. Who wants to come with me and kill some whimsy?
i'll roll with you, nukka. though i may have already seen the wii u in action :teeheespoiler (click to show/hide)back in 2007 when we overclocked a 360 :teehee[close]
:roflGot invited to the WiiU Experience in Seattle on September 6th. Who wants to come with me and kill some whimsy?
i'll roll with you, nukka. though i may have already seen the wii u in action :teeheespoiler (click to show/hide)back in 2007 when we overclocked a 360 :teehee[close]
ninprom :lol
Now you guys have to do it, you can't tease us this much and then leave us hanging.
That's a CG trailer, fyi. Real game looks fine but by no means great. If this footage traveled through time and leaked in 2007, people would've assumed it's Condemned 2.
Zombiu sounds cool but forum people will oversell because it's a system exclusive. Or knock, for similar reasons. It and P100 are the only interesting Wii U games thus far. Sounds like a dumbified single player DayZ with less abstract gamey parts. It it was on a system I own, I'd check it out after it dropped to $15.
Got invited to the WiiU Experience in Seattle on September 6th. Who wants to come with me and kill some whimsy?
i'll roll with you, nukka. though i may have already seen the wiiu in action :teeheespoiler (click to show/hide)back in 2007 when we overclocked a 360 :teehee[close]
Gundam, just curious, but how did you get the invite/tickets?
That isnt the cg trailer. They changed to look to a bit grittier i believe. But it does look like that
Got invited to the WiiU Experience in Seattle on September 6th. Who wants to come with me and kill some whimsy?
i'll roll with you, nukka. though i may have already seen the wiiu in action :teeheespoiler (click to show/hide)back in 2007 when we overclocked a 360 :teehee[close]
I have three extra invite reservation codes, if you really want to go and hate on some whimsy with me. It's some event space on Capitol Hill. We can roll on in, fuck some shit up and then drink manly beers at Quinn's down the street.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqHFatLt-yw
X360 launch title from 2006 - hopefully Ubi can eek enough out of actual hardware to at least look approaching this level.
No one really cares if it looks slightly better or not, it's just embarrasing for Nintendo to have that discussion in the first place.
I see no proected shaows in Condemned.
At this rate Ntards will be bragging about a Wii3.0 game looking better than Uncharted 3 in 15 years
At this rate Ntards will be bragging about a Wii3.0 game looking better than Uncharted 3 in 15 years
This comment is soooo original. ::)
At this rate Ntards will be bragging about a Wii3.0 game looking better than Uncharted 3 in 15 years
This comment is soooo original. ::)
I like taking things from other people and adding my own personal spice. Sort of like Nintendo
QuoteI see no proected shaows in Condemned.
Condemned has projected shadows.
Got invited to the WiiU Experience in Seattle on September 6th. Who wants to come with me and kill some whimsy?
i'll roll with you, nukka. though i may have already seen the wiiu in action :teeheespoiler (click to show/hide)back in 2007 when we overclocked a 360 :teehee[close]
I have three extra invite reservation codes, if you really want to go and hate on some whimsy with me. It's some event space on Capitol Hill. We can roll on in, fuck some shit up and then drink manly beers at Quinn's down the street.
Signed up for 8 to 9:30 PM. Let's get NINFAGGED.
Got invited to the WiiU Experience in Seattle on September 6th. Who wants to come with me and kill some whimsy?
i'll roll with you, nukka. though i may have already seen the wiiu in action :teeheespoiler (click to show/hide)back in 2007 when we overclocked a 360 :teehee[close]
I have three extra invite reservation codes, if you really want to go and hate on some whimsy with me. It's some event space on Capitol Hill. We can roll on in, fuck some shit up and then drink manly beers at Quinn's down the street.
Signed up for 8 to 9:30 PM. Let's get NINFAGGED.
Same here. Em and Addie are flying to Omaha that morning, so it's Man Night on Capitol Hill.
Got invited to the WiiU Experience in Seattle on September 6th. Who wants to come with me and kill some whimsy?
i'll roll with you, nukka. though i may have already seen the wiiu in action :teeheespoiler (click to show/hide)back in 2007 when we overclocked a 360 :teehee[close]
I have three extra invite reservation codes, if you really want to go and hate on some whimsy with me. It's some event space on Capitol Hill. We can roll on in, fuck some shit up and then drink manly beers at Quinn's down the street.
Signed up for 8 to 9:30 PM. Let's get NINFAGGED.
Same here. Em and Addie are flying to Omaha that morning, so it's Man Night on Capitol Hill.
THUMBS UP. meet at your digs, if that's cool?
Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner. It looks like that is exactly what they did. They made a tri core "Enhanced" Broadway.I understand it for the "wii compatibility mode" but good lord is it a terrible idea for anything else.
Now I'm shady? Its not my fault I am not an engineer and call them like the docs say. About the cpu I am sure of this. The term "enhanced broadway" is straight from nintendo.
We've known for a bit the CPU would probably be the main bottleneck, but I don't see the real issue here. If they can get the Broadway architecture to sufficient performance levels, then why should they throw it out and start from scratch? It's not like they're just tweaking and overclocking it, like what they did with Gekko.
PowerPC is probably getting long in the tooth but that's more because no one's using it anymore.
What is sufficient here? Cutting edge 2007? Keep fucking that chicken, Andy.
Cutting edge 2007 is sufficient for PS360 ports, yeah. I don't think I've argued otherwise.
hahahaha, 3 core upclocked broadway + 4670m -- no wonder devs have to resort to "well, at least it has a gig of ram!"
But look at all that RAM DCharlie, holy crap. WiiU is a RAM powerhouse!
QuoteCutting edge 2007 is sufficient for PS360 ports, yeah. I don't think I've argued otherwise.
I for one am thrilled for Nintendo fans to be entering 2007. Whitney Houston is still alive in their shitty alternate reality and no one has even heard of One Direction. Bliss.
I'm sorry - i'm just losing it today - i'm seeing people who i actually like rolling out the excuses and being happy with the base requirement of "Nintendo in HD" - okay, i've peddled this out myself but that's a "best of worst case scenario" - Nthings are peddling it out like it's something to be proud of.
Where did all the "THOSE PROFITS!" "SCROOGE IN A PIT OF MONEY" "IT PRINTS MONEY" atttitudes go? the top and bottom of it is Nintendo made mad bank and they decided , even though they are going seemingly for the Nintendo hardcore fan, that they'll cheap everyone out and charge a premium. Grow a fucking pair, Nintendo fans - it's fucking disgusting how your company of choice is treating you. 2007 tech as we race into 2013? And to the sound of clapping? you fucking muppets.
are you talking to me
So if I understand the specs correctly Wii U = still sub-HD PS3/360 ports @ 20fps but with HD textures?
Quoteare you talking to me
not particularly it's more aimed at actual industry vets who -should- know better but who , whilst happy to call others out, predictably rally to the Nintendo cause - debasing themselves in the process.
I give you a mild pass because you are still a bit wet behind the ears and it's borderline cute that you don't know what you are talking about half the time ;)
Japan's mongbert wanker army of workshy fops will be right behind the Wii U
then don't quote me you tosser
Ports will be fine if devs do an OK job with the port, which has always been the case for every platform ever. Those that actually put effort in will be rewarded, but that won't be the case usually unfortunately.
Quotethen don't quote me you tosser
your statement about 2007 performance seemed as good as a place as any to start.
I just don't understand why Nthings - who are keen to point out the amazing profitability and IT PRINTS MONEY-ness of their favourite company
are happy that a machine that's coming out in ... 2012? 2013?... is -maybe- going to be around the 2007 sort of level.
But hey - dividends for investbros before performance for gamehoes.
Quotethen don't quote me you tosser
your statement about 2007 performance seemed as good as a place as any to start.
I just don't understand why Nthings - who are keen to point out the amazing profitability and IT PRINTS MONEY-ness of their favourite company
I think you're the one stuck in 2007. It's been a while since I've seen that meme even used non-ironically.
Then again I don't travel in many Nintard circles on GAF, which brings up the question, why do you?are happy that a machine that's coming out in ... 2012? 2013?... is -maybe- going to be around the 2007 sort of level.
But hey - dividends for investbros before performance for gamehoes.
If you want cutting edge, you get a PC. That's always been the case and will always be the case. Seems a bit disingenuous to me to rail against Nintards being OK with 2007 performance when PS4/720 will likely only be a few years newer performance wise, and which the PC will rightly trounce out of the gate same as Wii U.
looll - so the big defense is .... PCs are more powerful than PS4/720 so it's okay for Nintendo to shit all over us?
jesus fucking christ.
the problem with ps360 ports is that there won't be any new ps360 games being made for them to port after a couple of years, and it isn't going to be worth it to publishers to port games much older than 1-2 years
If you want cutting edge, you get a PC. That's always been the case and will always be the case. Seems a bit disingenuous to me to rail against Nintards being OK with 2007 performance when PS4/720 will likely only be a few years newer performance wise, and which the PC will rightly trounce out of the gate same as Wii U.
jesus fucking christ.
I think it'll be fine for the first couple of years, with the software overlap of new/old consoles, but there's a real possibility that things will dry up faster than Wii did after that.
QuoteIf you want cutting edge, you get a PC. That's always been the case and will always be the case. Seems a bit disingenuous to me to rail against Nintards being OK with 2007 performance when PS4/720 will likely only be a few years newer performance wise, and which the PC will rightly trounce out of the gate same as Wii U.
Wii was only few years behind PS360 too.
I will just quote DCQuotejesus fucking christ.
QuotePorts will be fine if devs do an OK job with the port, which has always been the case for every platform ever. Those that actually put effort in will be rewarded, but that won't be the case usually unfortunately.
/lazy devs
Wii was an order of magnitude behind. The resolution gap, and the power not there to support it, were the true killers of the Wii's performance. Resolution wise, all three should be roughly on equal footing, which shifts the bottleneck to other, less noticeable areas.
Wii was an order of magnitude behind. The resolution gap, and the power not there to support it, were the true killers of the Wii's performance. Resolution wise, all three should be roughly on equal footing, which shifts the bottleneck to other, less noticeable areas.
.... you're a coder by trade right? You can NOT be fucking serious here. Tell me this is a joke post ... please?
So the resolution difference wasn't the most noticeable drawback of the Wii's graphical performance? Take that away and some Wii games look really damn good, as Dolphin has shown.
QuoteIf you want cutting edge, you get a PC. That's always been the case and will always be the case. Seems a bit disingenuous to me to rail against Nintards being OK with 2007 performance when PS4/720 will likely only be a few years newer performance wise, and which the PC will rightly trounce out of the gate same as Wii U.
Wii was only few years behind PS360 too.
I will just quote DCQuotejesus fucking christ.
Wii was an order of magnitude behind. The resolution gap, and the power not there to support it, were the true killers of the Wii's performance. Resolution wise, all three should be roughly on equal footing, which shifts the bottleneck to other, less noticeable areas.
WiiU will also be a whole generation behind, maybe even more this time. It won't get any ports from PS4/720/PC.
Also: SHADERS + Post processing = super noticeable.
Yeah Andrex is prettty fucking smart outside of the Nintendo bubble he is living inside.
Come on dude, shake it off. Nintendo is not worth that kind of dedication.
I see nothing on that list that makes me want to back off from my overly bold prediction.
I can't believe Warner is seriously going to try getting $60 for that Arkham city port.
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=488702
Quoteare you talking to me
not particularly it's more aimed at actual industry vets who -should- know better but who , whilst happy to call others out, predictably rally to the Nintendo cause - debasing themselves in the process.
I give you a mild pass because you are still a bit wet behind the ears and it's borderline cute that you don't know what you are talking about half the time ;)
So the resolution difference wasn't the most noticeable drawback of the Wii's graphics? Take that away and some Wii games look really damn good, as Dolphin has shown.
Quoteare you talking to me
not particularly it's more aimed at actual industry vets who -should- know better but who , whilst happy to call others out, predictably rally to the Nintendo cause - debasing themselves in the process.
I give you a mild pass because you are still a bit wet behind the ears and it's borderline cute that you don't know what you are talking about half the time ;)
Who should industry vets be rallying behind? Nintendo is your bad guy, so who is your good guy? As an industry veteran.
Quoteare you talking to me
not particularly it's more aimed at actual industry vets who -should- know better but who , whilst happy to call others out, predictably rally to the Nintendo cause - debasing themselves in the process.
I give you a mild pass because you are still a bit wet behind the ears and it's borderline cute that you don't know what you are talking about half the time ;)
Who should industry vets be rallying behind? Nintendo is your bad guy, so who is your good guy? As an industry veteran.
STEAM and OUR GOD, BASED GABEN
I knew Dcharlie couldn't handle logic! Ha ha! Score one for the Ninhivemind.WiiU will also be a whole generation behind, maybe even more this time. It won't get any ports from PS4/720/PC.
I think that's pretty obvious, although "any" might be going a little far.Also: SHADERS + Post processing = super noticeable.
Not as noticeable as resolution.
I didn't say nothing else about the Wii's limitations mattered, fwiw. Just resolution was the biggest issue that I could see.
Maybe I'm wrong and those Dolphin shots were faked. *shrug*
I didn't say nothing else about the Wii's limitations mattered, fwiw. Just resolution was the biggest issue that I could see.
Maybe I'm wrong and those Dolphin shots were faked. *shrug*
Dolphin is a terrible defense and you know it.
Giving you a machine that has 2007 tech in 2012 means you can maintain amazing profitability, and IT PRINTS MONEY-ness because as we all know the average Nintendo fan owns large quantities of stock in the company.
If you want cutting edge, you get a PC. That's always been the case and will always be the case. Seems a bit disingenuous to me to rail against Nintards being OK with 2007 performance when PS4/720 will likely only be a few years newer performance wise, and which the PC will rightly trounce out of the gate same as Wii U.
I didn't say nothing else about the Wii's limitations mattered, fwiw. Just resolution was the biggest issue that I could see.
Maybe I'm wrong and those Dolphin shots were faked. *shrug*
Dolphin is a terrible defense and you know it.
How is it terrible? It's not doing anything to the graphics except increasing the resolutions. And the games look great. That's my point.
If you have a counterpoint to make, then make it. Otherwise this "LOL at Andrex" stuff got old two pages ago.
Playing Wii games on a PC via an emulator is not something the average person who owns a Wii will ever do. Games should be judged on how they look on the hardware they were designed for.
nintendo lives in a fucking bubble. sometimes, it pays out. i'm pretty skeptical this time around, though. well, maybe there will be a ouya/vita/wii u tier for tools...
All that emu does is make it less jaggy so my eyes won't get burned.
It can never fix the horrible, horrible Xenoblade character models.
also, that reminds me of final fantasy xii
I cant believe people on gaf are getting excited about Rayman and Trine 2 being launchgames :lol
I cant believe people on gaf are getting excited about Rayman and Trine 2 being launchgames :lol
I cant believe people on gaf are getting excited about Rayman and Trine 2 being launchgames :lol
there are two reasons to buy nintendo product right now:
1) you love nintendo's games. (gaftards, when they aren't trying to draw some weird moral imperative around videogame purchases)
2) you are stupid and have money to burn and new hardware gives you a weird endorphin rush. (me and dcharlie)
Ahh P100. Not the best screenshot of that game, I'd wager.
Ahh P100. Not the best screenshot of that game, I'd wager.
I'm just quoting GAF. This is the screenshot offered up as proof that the graphics were "truly something else."
Ahh P100. Not the best screenshot of that game, I'd wager.
I'm just quoting GAF. This is the screenshot offered up as proof that the graphics were "truly something else."
I agree, when compared to actual next-generation hardware, those graphics are...truly something else.
November 18th
I bought my gamecube in 2003 cus Viewtiful Joe. So eat me.
they only claim to want it, don't really support it when it happens
If Vita owners are allowed to get excited for a port of a four year old PS2 JRPG, I'll let the Nintards get excited over Trine. Not that it'll stop there, but what can ya do?
The truth about third parties and Nintendo platforms is this: the average console owner (ie not us) probably isn't going to buy more than ten or so games over the course of a console's life. Any console. Nintendo's first party games tend to suck the air out of the room on that. They get their Wii Sports with the system, and they're good for a while. Then they need another controller, so they buy Wii Play, and they're good for a while. What next? Hmm, a whole bunch of games I don't know, or Super Mario Galaxy/Mario Kart/Zelda/Mario Party/New Super Mario Bros/Smash Bros/Donkey Kong/Wii Sports Resort and oh my we're getting close to ten here, aren't we? This is why the third party (major) successes on Nintendo consoles by and large tend to be extremely well-known brands (Call of Duty, Sonic, Star Wars, Mickey Mouse, Guitar Hero).
Nintendo by themselves largely satisfy the needs of the mass audience on their console. No other hardware manufacturer has that kind of power. Maybe no other publisher, even. And this scenario makes Nintendo the most money, to boot. This is why, even though for appearances' sake Nintendo and their friendly third parties will pretend to be working on "the problem", it will never actually be solved.
The truth about third parties and Nintendo platforms is this: the average console owner (ie not us) probably isn't going to buy more than ten or so games over the course of a console's life. Any console. Nintendo's first party games tend to suck the air out of the room on that. They get their Wii Sports with the system, and they're good for a while. Then they need another controller, so they buy Wii Play, and they're good for a while. What next? Hmm, a whole bunch of games I don't know, or Super Mario Galaxy/Mario Kart/Zelda/Mario Party/New Super Mario Bros/Smash Bros/Donkey Kong/Wii Sports Resort and oh my we're getting close to ten here, aren't we? This is why the third party (major) successes on Nintendo consoles by and large tend to be extremely well-known brands (Call of Duty, Sonic, Star Wars, Mickey Mouse, Guitar Hero).
Nintendo by themselves largely satisfy the needs of the mass audience on their console. No other hardware manufacturer has that kind of power. Maybe no other publisher, even. And this scenario makes Nintendo the most money, to boot. This is why, even though for appearances' sake Nintendo and their friendly third parties will pretend to be working on "the problem", it will never actually be solved.
Yeah. Sure would be nice if it was, though.
The only way it might is if one of the others bow out. Suddenly in a two-party system, everything's fair game. If it was just the 360 and Wii this gen, would Wii have gotten more support? I think so. Being able to justify HD development as hitting "three" platforms (although usually just two, PS3 and 360) allowed pubs to sidestep the Wii and justify it.
The other factors at play of course were the Wii being weak and Nintendo's history with third parties.
But would any of that matter if there was only one other kid on the block? It didn't seem to during the SNES/Genesis days, where Nintendo arguably treated third parties the worst in their history (maybe N64 takes that crown.)
Or for a more recent example, look at the recent handheld wars. Two systems. Both the PSP and DS got some pretty great third party games despite the large power gap.
I don't know, I'm thinking out loud. There probably would have been other problems.
I highly doubt it would have gotten more support even if one bowed out.
They would just do it for 360 and that would truly become the PS2 software wise.
I doubt a home console will sell PS2 levels ever again. I mean, it isn't a home console but DS still hasn't done it. Wii probably got as close as anyone ever will again.I don't know about that. The total number of sold home consoles went up this generation and people aren't going to be able to play Madden or Call of Duty on their smartphones anytime soon. If one of the next-gen consoles bombs, I think it's possible that one of the other two might make it to 150 million LTD. The total market should still be growing.
Yeah, I think you can discount a lot of those wii sales too, as they were made to people who aren't really video game enthusiasts even to the degree of being a casual gamer. I'd subtract 35 million; Nintendo finishes in last place again. :(
Most example Dolphin games look better than early 360 titles IMO.
Powerful system specs are important for more than just visual fidelity, nfaggots. Jesus fucking christ.
maxy, i'd bet it's because they're just recycling the talking points feggits like you made at the beginning of this generation
borys, that's a pretty wild prediction, are you sure you want to go out on such a limb?
QuoteMost example Dolphin games look better than early 360 titles IMO.
and how do early 360 games look running on super high end PC GPUs with 16xFSAA , post processing, and overscanning to 4K resolutions?
This is just such a cul de sac of an argument - i just don't see what Nthings get out of it. "If the Wii was actually a super powerful PC with a massive GPU just LOOK at how good the games would look! They'd be like first gen X360 games!!" - err.... okay!
Only thing Nintendo (SEGA :bow) makes I care about is FZero really.
F-Zero is dead baby. F-Zero is dead.
Along WipeOut, Fatal Inertia, RollCage etc.
Jesus, what do we have left, Extreme G? :'(
Eh I wouldn't say a Nintendo franchise is dead just because a game hasn't come out in a while. Sleeping, maybe. All those games could come back at any time, as opposed to say WipeOut, where Sony would have a hard time reformatting an existing studio to make it.Long sleeping IP needs new dev teams, it's the same as the case for WipeOut.
You better spill
I think they must be pretty one-eyed about that stuff though - Kid Icarus and Skyward Sword can be bad-bad, not just nintendo-bad.
They greenlit WII MUSIC.
What i've basically learned over the last few months: Iwata and Miyamoto are pretty hardcore about gameplay mechanics. Not in that "oh cute" twee way - as in angry/shouty/sort this shit out/this is garbage quality "nazi" levels.
That Shiggy story is pretty badass but it makes me wonder how Twilight Princess got released.
If I may, you have to be a fucking moron not to know that. I know that people who dislike Nintendo's current direction like to say that history's view of Miyamoto is inflated, but this was a dude who programmed the fucking NES. I don't care what anyone says, that makes anyone hardcore as shit.
Same for Iwata. He flashed some of his programming chops in one of the Iwata asks and my jaw gaped a bit.
Their public characters may be flanderized since being in the public spotlight so much and for so long, but they'll always be fricking smart game designers and programmers.
"Upending the tea table" was always a candy coated euphemism for what I assumed truly happened. You don't throw out months of someone's work without anger and shouting involved, no matter what the case.
Don't worry Triumph, NoA will find a way to screw it up somehow.
And Andy, sorry, I don't hand out that AAA status very easily. I give Black/White points for putting some actual effort in for once, but it's still far too derivative to be considered God-tier. Same reason I denied NSMB Wii that status, even though I think it's an incredibly well-made game.
Also, Twilight Princess was awesome.Agh wait, I meant Skyward Sword. TP was good. :-[ Aside from the god awful 10 hour intro tutorial that makes replaying the game impossible since no one can suffer it multiple times.
Dem dungeons. :drool
Miyamoto dropped the hammer pretty hard on Retro in the early days of Prime, from what I remember. Too bad the details of that particular set of meetings isn't public information.
What i've basically learned over the last few months: Iwata and Miyamoto are pretty hardcore about gameplay mechanics. Not in that "oh cute" twee way - as in angry/shouty/sort this shit out/this is garbage quality "nazi" levels.Why do they have such low standards when it comes to how games teach players game play mechanincs? Endless, unskippable, and boring tutorials should be unacceptable and Iwata and Miyamoto should know better.
Which , as loathed as i am to give Nintendo any credit (OBVIOUSLY!!!), i find increadibly uplifting. If they are prepared to can long term investments into -franchises of note- because they don't feel perfect? That makes me pop a boner.
What i've basically learned over the last few months: Iwata and Miyamoto are pretty hardcore about gameplay mechanics. Not in that "oh cute" twee way - as in angry/shouty/sort this shit out/this is garbage quality "nazi" levels.Why do they have such low standards when it comes to how games teach players game play mechanincs? Endless, unskippable, and boring tutorials should be unacceptable and Iwata and Miyamoto should know better.
Which , as loathed as i am to give Nintendo any credit (OBVIOUSLY!!!), i find increadibly uplifting. If they are prepared to can long term investments into -franchises of note- because they don't feel perfect? That makes me pop a boner.
Dunno about the Wii version, but Mario Kart 7 is excellent. Wii Music obviously fell into a blindspot because it was Shigeru's own baby, something he had wanted to make for a while, and no one is going to tell him otherwise. Skyward Sword, though, I don't know what to say.
QuoteMost example Dolphin games look better than early 360 titles IMO.
and how do early 360 games look running on super high end PC GPUs with 16xFSAA , post processing, and overscanning to 4K resolutions?
This is just such a cul de sac of an argument - i just don't see what Nthings get out of it. "If the Wii was actually a super powerful PC with a massive GPU just LOOK at how good the games would look! They'd be like first gen X360 games!!" - err.... okay!
That wasn't the point you dope, and you sort of just proved it. Resolution is the most noticeable aspect of a system's graphics. Open book, close book.
The last 3 posters in this thread haven't played skyward sword.
The last 3 posters in this thread haven't played skyward sword.
S'true, I have it but have had very little time for single player home games this year. Still, you have to admit, the reception to it has been considerably chillier than usual for the main series. Even Aeana and Dragona, who are both nuts for Zelda, said the game nosedives after a promising start. And no offence, but I trust their word infinitely further than yours.
However, I haven't played it. Which is why I said I didn't know what to tell him. Don't worry, someday I will play it, and then I'll be sure to tell you exactly what I think of it.
What buggers most Zelda dissidents its that the game hasn't changed since OOT, there is no innovation, just refinement (and even thats questionable) and being trapped in dogmas and tropes.
The last 3 posters in this thread haven't played skyward sword.
S'true, I have it but have had very little time for single player home games this year. Still, you have to admit, the reception to it has been considerably chillier than usual for the main series. Even Aeana and Dragona, who are both nuts for Zelda, said the game nosedives after a promising start. And no offence, but I trust their word infinitely further than yours.
However, I haven't played it. Which is why I said I didn't know what to tell him. Don't worry, someday I will play it, and then I'll be sure to tell you exactly what I think of it.
I really don't know what the reception to it is, as I've pretty much learned not to listen to internet dwellers about nearly everything. Ie, one would think Phantom Hourglass was terribad when I find it very charming and fun. IRL zelda people i know haven't existed since.... junior high? Didn't help that skyrim had total mindshare that holiday season and i couldn't get the few people who had wiis to tell me what they think. Has the game not had the typical legs zelda games do?
I'm not sure what buggers people about the game to be perfectly honest. As opposed to wind waker and twilight princess and even ocarina that are flawed games with far more egregious 'padding' and larger bouts of tedium that offend far more than SS. In the end it wasn't what I wanted (that would be New! Legend of Zelda) but its the best 3d zelda along with majora's mask.
The next Zelda should be designed after Dark Souls. Drop you in a world and let you figure it out.No objections, which is what i think something like a New! Legend of Zelda would play out. 2d overhead, old school but without the nes jank.
Nintendo is creatively bankrupt, you would never see a game like Dark Souls with a Nintendo logo slapped on the box.
Nintendo is creatively bankrupt, you would never see a game like Dark Souls with a Nintendo logo slapped on the box.
The next Zelda will probably be some ubertwee and hand-holdy experience.
Nintendo is creatively bankrupt, you would never see a game like Dark Souls with a Nintendo logo slapped on the box.
The next Zelda will probably be some ubertwee and hand-holdy experience.
It is because Nintendo mainly makes games for kids now. Also i dont think you know what creatively bankrupt means.
I agree completely Oscar. I think the problem comes from 3d really adding nothing new to gameplay.
We asked Blitz Games Studios' design director John Nash the impossible to answer question: is the Wii U more powerful than the current generation? "It's comparable to the current generation and a bit more powerful than that," he replied. Pretty unscientific, eh?
First, the positives. Where the Wii U outdoes the current generation is in RAM and GPU. The Wii U has, effectively, twice the RAM available to games that the Xbox 360 and the PS3 each have. And we hear much praise of the GPU.
"The Wii U is a nice console to work with because it's got so much RAM in comparison [to the PS3 and Xbox 360]," another Wii U developer, who wished to remain anonymous, told us. "For E3 we simply dumped the whole game into memory and never once used the disc after the content was loaded from it."
It is the RAM in combination with the GPU that means Wii U games have the potential to outshine Xbox 360 and PS3 games. Indeed, according to one source, the Wii U version of his company's game will be "the smoothest console version".
"We're a GPU-heavy game," the source continued. "Wii U has a powerful GPU with more oomph than the rivals - and is more modern in architecture and shader support, which may come in handy later on.
"The CPU on the other hand is a different question. We are not limited by it but some other games might suffer from it. Still, because of the GPU, I expect most multi-platform games to look the best on Wii U, even if the difference might not be huge sometimes."
The mention of the Wii U's CPU raised our eyebrow - as it has done for many developers we've spoken to. While its clock speed remains private, most developers agree it is lower than the clock speed offered by the PS3 and Xbox 360's CPUs - disappointing for many.
So they couldn't even get their new triple-core Broadway up to 3.2ghz? Sad. :(
Clock speeds. ::)No need to roll eyes.
I really hope the nintards thump their chests as hard as they can for having the best looking versions of games for the year or so that statement can remain true.
Still no EA support for this thing though? Lack of Madden, etc is not going to make a successful console. Ask the Dreamcast how that worked out. :teehee
So they couldn't even get their new triple-core Broadway up to 3.2ghz? Sad. :(
That Shiggy story is pretty badass but it makes me wonder how Twilight Princess got released.
So they couldn't even get their new triple-core Broadway up to 3.2ghz? Sad. :(
Isn't this like arguing over how many bits a console is back in the day? I've been told cpu whatevers don't mean much out of context.
i think it's not actually broadway, but has support for broadway instructions -- or at least a mapping for broadway instructions routed to one of the three cores (on-die emulation)? that would put the clock at (a step max of) 1.8 ghz, not the 2.0 i heard
anyway, loltendo
My take on Nintendo:
more rhythm tengoku for portables, please. Also, put the original gba RT on 3ds virtual console, translate it in English, have it up for when I pick up a 3ds for STM4.
My take on Nintendo:
more rhythm tengoku for portables, please. Also, put the original gba RT on 3ds virtual console, translate it in English, have it up for when I pick up a 3ds for STM4.
Edit- :derp
Budget Dirtperson CPUs :gloomy
I asked what RT was. :lol
All I really want out of Nintendo is quality Fire Emblem releases, good Marios of the Galaxy variety, and to not fuck up Zelda.
All I really want out of Nintendo is quality Fire Emblem releases, good Marios of the Galaxy variety, and to not fuck up Zelda.
As long as Aunoma tries to imitate Shiggy it is always gona stay fucked. All his work after MM has been garbage.
I'll be surprised if much from Skyward Sword survives into the next installments. After its weak performance, it'll probably be swept under the rug.
Styling it after MonHun is stupid. As people said they should style it after Dark Souls.
As probably the only person in the universe that just plainly dislikes Monster Hunter games, this news saddens me. Zelda games should be more like... Zelda games. The wheel is not broken. You don't need to reinvent it, no matter what tards like damian say. Just put out the best damn wheel you possibly can every 2-3 years or so.
As probably the only person in the universe that just plainly dislikes Monster Hunter games, this news saddens me. Zelda games should be more like... Zelda games. The wheel is not broken. You don't need to reinvent it, no matter what tards like damian say. Just put out the best damn wheel you possibly can every 2-3 years or so.
Twilight Princess, after the 'tarded first 8-10 hours or so, is possibly the best in series. Why? DEM DUNGEONS.
I don't want Nintendo trying to innovate, because they suck at it.
Got your pinch of salt ready? Video Product Distributors have posted up some information relating to the possible SKUs for Nintendo's Wii U console.
In case you didn't know already, VPD is a distribution company which counts Amazon, Blockbuster and Overstock as some of its customers.
The launch date given is the 11th November in North America. The SKUs are as follows:
WIIU SYSTEM - GM - 11/11/12 $249.99
WIIU SYSTEM W/ - GM - 11/11/12 $299.99
WIIU SYSTEM 349 W/ - GM - 11/11/12 $349.99
We can only assume that the $299.99 and $349.99 bundles include additional games or peripherals - an extra GamePad, perhaps?
$250 isn't that the old Vita pricing?
If so then WOW.
You will say "WOW"!
how much for the whimsy edition?
Last gen is last gen,things change.
Listing is legit.
the higher priced ones are most likely shitty retailer bundles like we see at every launch, where they saddle you with lee carvallo's putting challenge and a madqortz e-z-break controller if you want a launch system.
:lol 2.2
Shiggy will love you as long as you keep giving him money, fear not.
"The time to launch an IP is at the front-end of the hardware cycle, and if you look historically the majority of new IPs are introduced within the first 24 months of each cycle of hardware platforms," Gibeau began. "Right now, we're working on three to five new IPs for the next gen, and in this cycle we've been directing our innovation into existing franchises.
"As much as there's a desire for new IP, the market doesn't reward new IP this late in the cycle," he added. "They end up doing okay, but not really breaking through."
Like all the big dogs, EA is frequently accused of knocking out incremental updates to established properties, but Gibeau feels forthcoming titles show the publisher at its most experimental. "If you look at what we're putting into Need For Speed: Most Wanted we're taking a lot of risks there, the same thing with Battlefield - you have to admit that, from Bad Company 2 to Battlefield 3, there's a huge amount of change there.
"But, if you look at the market dynamics, as much as there's a desire for new IP, the market doesn't reward new IP this late in the cycle; they end up doing okay, but not really breaking through. We have to shepherd the time that our developers spend, as well as the money that we spend on development in a positive way, so we're focused on bringing out a bunch of new IPs around the next generation of hardware."
"When you launch a new IP it needs to do something really, really remarkable, and that's easier to do when you have a new set of technology that gives you novel capabilities," Gibeau explained.
"This is the longest cycle that any of us have ever seen, and we're at the point where a little bit of fatigue has set in, and people are wondering what they can possibly do next. I've seen the machines that we're building games for, and they're spectacular.
Let's predict what other kinds of shitty new attachments third-party junk peddlers come up with for that tablet controller!
I predict:
1. Stylus Gloves - These comfortable, silken-style gloves have built-in plastic fingertip styli for the ultimate in tablet precision!
2. Polarized Screen Protector - Protects your precious tablet controller screen from scratches AND helps prevent eye fatigue!
3. Wii U Tablet Controller Vault - This anodized aluminum case is lined with egg crate foam, providing a military-grade level of protection from drops that could damage the high-tech electronics inside your tablet controller!
4. Skillshotz™ Targetting Reticule Overlay - When using your tablet controller's gyroscope and screen for FPS games, this pre-printed screen protector's realistic scope crosshair gives you the edge you need for pinpoint headshots!
that all depends on the number of funsistors on the die, as well as the gigglebits per second throughput
:lol 2.2
More advanced than anything Nintendo will put out this decade!
OH GOD WHAT AM I SAYING
$249 - Console
$299 - Console + Controller
$349 - Console + Controller + Power Cable
Let's predict what other kinds of shitty new attachments third-party junk peddlers come up with for that tablet controller!
I predict:
1. Stylus Gloves - These comfortable, silken-style gloves have built-in plastic fingertip styli for the ultimate in tablet precision!
2. Polarized Screen Protector - Protects your precious tablet controller screen from scratches AND helps prevent eye fatigue!
3. Wii U Tablet Controller Vault - This anodized aluminum case is lined with egg crate foam, providing a military-grade level of protection from drops that could damage the high-tech electronics inside your tablet controller!
4. Skillshotz Targetting Reticule Overlay - When using your tablet controller's gyroscope and screen for FPS games, this pre-printed screen protector's realistic scope crosshair gives you the edge you need for pinpoint headshots!
:lol 2.2
More advanced than anything Nintendo will put out this decade!
OH GOD WHAT AM I SAYING
Hey Prole, we still on for Weeeoooo night this Thursday?
:lol 2.2
More advanced than anything Nintendo will put out this decade!
OH GOD WHAT AM I SAYING
:lol 2.2
More advanced than anything Nintendo will put out this decade!
OH GOD WHAT AM I SAYING
More advanced than Apple too, it supports flash!
What the hell with that comic.
Nothing wrong with indulging in a little nostalgia from time to time, but trying to live inside that little bubble and attacking anything that "threatens" it is dumb.
Nothing wrong with indulging in a little nostalgia from time to time, but trying to live inside that little bubble and attacking anything that "threatens" it is dumb.
Are you talking about Nintendo fans or republicans?
how is uncharted not nostalgia? I loved tomb raider as well, in the 20th century.
http://i.imgur.com/YSfaX.jpg
Someone found latest Audiokinetic's documentation where it mentions Wii U CPU performance. Then they ran the same benchmark on normal PCs.
Lower is better:QuoteTest setup:
AMD A6-3500 @ 2.4GHz
4GB DDR3, 1.6GHz CL6
Wwise 2012.2 64bit
Windows 7 x64
The baseline on this system is 0.2785% as reported by the Wwise profiler, all figures are an average over 60 samples. And these are the results:Code: [Select]Wwise 2012.2 CPU Load (lower is better)
| Wii U | A6-3500 | i7-920
------------------------------------------------
Peak Limiter | 0.20% | 0.08% | 0.05%
Delay | 0.07% | 0.04% | 0.01%
http://i.imgur.com/YSfaX.jpg
holy shit :lol
Just think, that Nthing would still be alive today if only he was familiar with QTE. Proper game design saves lives
Just think, that Nthing would still be alive today if only he was familiar with QTE. Proper game design saves lives
...you mean CQC?
Speaking in the latest issue of MCV, Hines said that Bethesda's "approach has been to put our games out on all of the platforms that will support them.
"So far the Wii hasn't fitted into that. Whether Wii U does down the road is TBD."
Nintendo has seemingly struggled to find third-party support for Wii U. Yesterday, VideoGamer.com revealed that Ubisoft had put its Wii U version of Ghost Recon Online on hold.
But that doesn't make sense, they put games out on the PS3.
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If you're playing Bethesda games on anything other than a PC, you're a fool, anyway. They're ridiculously technically incompetent, the community always has to clean up after them, and consoles that don't support that kind of process are just going to leave you with an inferior product.
Between this and DKC2, I just don't know if I can trust Oscar anymore.
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comic
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:rofl
So...
Anyone here buying this at launch?
With my immense X360 backlog, I can skip buying anything for years. But being rich can be a curse sometimes.
Andrex : "Wii U game, called it a few months ago off-GAF. "
...... oh rry ??
So...
Anyone here buying this at launch?
Called it May 1st on my forum.
Getting three. One for me and each of my sisters. As Xmas presents.
Probably some derivation of 4. Definitely a mainline-game of some kind.
I don't really trust my source but figured I should post this somewhere. Remind me to bump this and gloat if it comes to be.
So...
Anyone here buying this at launch?
no, i owned a 360
So...
Anyone here buying this at launch?
no, i owned a 360
Man, You totally called it !
if you hate them that much why not piss in their gas tanks? It would be cheaper.
So...
Anyone here buying this at launch?
no, i owned a 360
Translation: I will buy at least two (see: PSP Go)
I wanted to get them a Wii all this year cause we all had a ton of fun playing mine while I was still at home, but I've held off since Wii U is backwards compatible
So...
Anyone here buying this at launch?
So...
Anyone here buying this at launch?
With my immense X360 backlog, I can skip buying anything for years. But being rich can be a curse sometimes.
Anyone else think it's ridiculous how we're supposedly two months-ish from launch and there's no official word regarding the actual date or price? Make me suspicious that all in not well in N land but I don't recall how far ahead they've announced previous launches...
Kind of thought as much but wasn't entirely sure. :-[
Kind of thought as much but wasn't entirely sure. :-[
You're looking for excuses to be negative. :P
Even Nintendo knows it can't get away with charging too much for 5 year old tech :teehee
I think at $100 less the Vita would be doing 2-3x better than it is now, but Creepy Old Guy is right (if we cut around some of the language he uses due to be diddled by Shigsy when he was a child): there's no audience for the Vita in North America. We don't even need to include the "manchildren" here, because they're such a small slice of the pie in NA they're almost insignificant. Handheld gaming hardware in NA has almost exclusively been the province of children. The PSP and the DS were both good at hitting demographics outside that, but neither the adolescent to adult male gamer of the PSP nor the soccer mom/elderly demo of the DS proved to yield much in the way of consistent long-term fruit.
That made it extremely baffling to me when Sony opted to target the same group again with the Vita. I really don't know what they were expecting to happen there.
The WiiU baffles me to a similar extent. We've seen with the Wii that the expanded audience Nintendo successfully courted with the Wii didn't really stick it out for the long haul, though they certainly proved lucrative while they were there. You could say Nintendo would be happy if the exact same situation as the Wii happened again, and I'd agree, but the problem is that Nintendo isn't targeting a fresh new audience with the WiiU - rather, they seem to be doubling down on the latter years of the Wii, which is to say, the Nintendo faithful and the largely disinterested people they pulled in with Wii Sports and Wii Fit. I don't see how that's a viable plan at all, outside Japan, where the Nintendo faithful can hold up the entire island in the event it's necessary.
But if they were really targeting the 360 audience, they wouldn't have specced their machine at current generation levels. 360 owners have absolutely no need whatsoever for a 360+.
When I said targeting the 360 audience, I meant literally. Maybe prospective audience would have been a better term.
When I said targeting the 360 audience, I meant literally. Maybe prospective audience would have been a better term.
There's very little prospective 360 audience at over $200 left. It's like releasing a tablet now and targeting iPad users.
Nintendo is just trying to strike oil but this time with a touchscreen instead of motion controls. They don't care if the Wii U ended up like the Wii in the end, they just want those three fiscal years of multibillion dollar profit margins. I don't know what game Nintendo has in mind to do that and if they can't, then they're fucked. The Gamecube was what happened when all there was to play was Nintendo games and they got about 20 million Gamecube sales? Unless they can create some pop culture phenomenon, 20 million is right where I see the Wii U.
(http://i.imgur.com/S19ts.jpg)
I mean, the PS3 floundered for several years after launch, which is typically the most important part of a console's life, and they've managed to net more than 60 million in sales when all is said and done.
That's certainly what it seems like at this point. I stand by my statement though, Nintendo won't let this thing sell less than 35 million. Hardly a success but it could still be very profitable for them, and most importantly, it puts them back on third parties' radars and modernizes their online network.
That's certainly what it seems like at this point. I stand by my statement though, Nintendo won't let this thing sell less than 35 million. Hardly a success but it could still be very profitable for them, and most importantly, it puts them back on third parties' radars and modernizes their online network.
if they are starting from a point of 30 minute delays for messages/posts then i think the modernization is going to be a painful period for them to realise what does and doesn't work.
The big risk for Nintendo if they get the pricing wrong and if MS/PS3 slash their machines to line up with the launch. Then i'm not sure what Nintendo can do - they cut the price on the Wii U as quickly as they did with the 3DS? Won't everyone who got burnt on the original 3DS wait and see what happens if it's $249?
I can't remember every detail about a company that continues to be less and less worth caring about. :PKind of thought as much but wasn't entirely sure. :-[
You're looking for excuses to be negative. :P
I mean, obviously Nintendo Land looks cheap as hell, but so did Wii Sports. *shrug*
I'm not buying it, but I'd check it out if it's a pack in. It's barely interesting though.
DS games on a bigger screen with Flash graphics?
SIGN ME UP!
Is the "streaming the entire game to the controller" feature an optional thing for developers? I may have misread this, but I'd swear I read somewhere recently where it won't work for every game.
Is the "streaming the entire game to the controller" feature an optional thing for developers? I may have misread this, but I'd swear I read somewhere recently where it won't work for every game.
Again, people who should know better are just coming across as ill informed. I love Ferricide to bits but he's already on Facebook going on about Wii U HD being good enough and, despite having seen NOTHING (possibly something) of Next gen Xbox/Ps4 has already declared he's not interested in what they have to offer.
okay - i think Nthings are huffing Nintendo cock glue
people who SHOULD KNOW BETTER are throwing their dirty man-milt over... this....
http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/41698/12-new-super-mario-bros-u-screenshots/
LOOKS INCREDIBLE, LOOKS AMAZING, OMG! 2D NEVER LOOKED SO GOOD....
.... aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it's completely within Gamecube capabilities.
The emperors new fucking clothes. Total.
The whole about-face on HD from Nthings : This is like getting into the Beatles just as Mark Chapman puts a bullet into John.
Again, people who should know better are just coming across as ill informed. I love Ferricide to bits but he's already on Facebook going on about Wii U HD being good enough and, despite having seen NOTHING (possibly something) of Next gen Xbox/Ps4 has already declared he's not interested in what they have to offer.
It's just fucking stupid. "I want progress - but only to the level Nintendo have green lit." - that's how i'm going to judge these sort of statements. Anyone invoking "but think of the profits" gets a cock in the mouf.
Well. If it's made easy enough to implement, I guess it would be kinda dumb to overlook since it is a pretty big USP of the system... But I agree, we're probably going to see lazy-ass ports skip it. hehe
CPU: “Espresso” CPU on the Wii U has three enhanced Broadway cores
GPU: “GPU7” AMD Radeon™-based High Definition GPU. Unique API = GX2, which supports Shader Model 4.0 (DirectX 10.1 and OpenGL 3.3 equivalent functionality)
Memory: Mem1 = 32MB Mem2 = 1GB (that applications can use)
Storage: Internal 8 GB with support for SD Cards (SD Cards up to 2GB/ SDHC Cards up to 32GB) and External USB Connected Hard Drives
Networking: 802.11 b/g/n Wifi
Video Output: Supports 1080p, 1080i, 720p, 480p and 480i
Video Cables Supported:
Compatible cables include HDMI, Wii D-Terminal, Wii Component Video, Wii RGB, Wii S-Video Stereo AV and Wii AV.
USB: Four USB 2.0 Ports
Why are the screenshots tiny? Isn't the game in 1080p (or at least 720p)?
A 3 Core Broadway CPU!?? :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
For those of you who don't know, the Broadway CPU is the Wii CPU which is an overclocked version of the gamecube CPU which was designed in 1999. Nintendo have managed to do the impossible and launch a console in 2012 using a 13 year old CPU. Who knew whimsy had such a steep price?
A 3 Core Broadway CPU!?? :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
For those of you who don't know, the Broadway CPU is the Wii CPU which is an overclocked version of the gamecube CPU which was designed in 1999. Nintendo have managed to do the impossible and launch a console in 2012 using a 13 year old CPU. Who knew whimsy had such a steep price?
1 GB RAM is about what we were expecting (but not hoping) for.
8 GB storage is kind of lame, but probably a non-issue for the people that care about it.
Shader Model 4.0 is a nice surprise, I think.
A 3 Core Broadway CPU!?? :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
For those of you who don't know, the Broadway CPU is the Wii CPU which is an overclocked version of the gamecube CPU which was designed in 1999. Nintendo have managed to do the impossible and launch a console in 2012 using a 13 year old CPU. Who knew whimsy had such a steep price?
1 GB RAM is about what we were expecting (but not hoping) for.
8 GB storage is kind of lame, but probably a non-issue for the people that care about it.
Shader Model 4.0 is a nice surprise, I think.
360 has shader 3.0+
Huge step over Wii though
So my pc is as powerfull as a weeeeeeoooo? :rofl
A 3 Core Broadway CPU!?? :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lolGameCube is so awesome Nintendo's releasing it THREE TIMES.
For those of you who don't know, the Broadway CPU is the Wii CPU which is an overclocked version of the gamecube CPU which was designed in 1999. Nintendo have managed to do the impossible and launch a console in 2012 using a 13 year old CPU. Who knew whimsy had such a steep price?
1 GB RAM is about what we were expecting (but not hoping) for.
8 GB storage is kind of lame, but probably a non-issue for the people that care about it.
Shader Model 4.0 is a nice surprise, I think.
360 has shader 3.0+
Huge step over Wii though
My phone is a huge step over the Wii.
Andrex, as much as you don't want to admit it you are spinning this shit like hell. The Wii U's power is disappointing to say the least and the main draw is inferior to other options that have already taken over said markets. This system might sell well on the Wii name but that's still a longshot in more ways than one.
It won't be a total failure, sales wise it will barely beat the Gamecube or maybe not even that.
As a game console it is the worst Nintendo had to offer yet.
oh god, the wii u hardware :lol
But it isn't the worst Nintendo console hardware. Not when the N64, GameCube, and Wii have been released.
We heard this about the DS before it released, too, but people who had little experience with games seemed to find it easier to pay attention to two screens than trying to figure out a controller with two sticks, a dpad, and ten buttons.
QuoteBut it isn't the worst Nintendo console hardware. Not when the N64, GameCube, and Wii have been released.
When the N64 and Gamecube launched they were both in the top end of the hardware spectrum.
The Wii U is in the top end of 2006.
As per prole, we've known the rough specs for quite some time and , yeah, it's not a surpirse to ANYONE -until- you go into the many deluded Nthing fan threads where the idea is that Nintendo are secretly hidding some amazing 3D Stack designed CPU that blows away even NEXT GEN or that the GPU is some massive wizard on a chip... or the other lolworthy angle that, hey guys, the PS4/X720 won't be much better! It's all wishful thinking... the final back out, which really should be the first line of attack, is : BU BU BU BU GAMES! Yup, that's the key. Tomorrow will see some interesting titles but the top and bottom of it is that the nthing banners are coming out (a la the improved Wollan picture) that WE MADE IT! WE ARE FINALLYNEXTLAST GEN!
meanwhile : "Of course, i'm not interested in anything the X720 / PS4 has to offer - 4K LOL FUCKOFF! Like we need it"
crystal ball to 2028 : 4K support?! OMFG BOW DOWN TO NINTENDO!!!!
this is the fundamental problem - in a hobby where technology DEFINES the crest of the wave, actively chosing to poo poo the crest of the wave that you will inevitably follow is absolutely stupid. You are bad mouthing your future in 5-6 years time. Nthings are setting themselves up to constantly have to lord up what they hated.
I've said it before, but if you're into graphics performance, it seems silly to poo poo one console and not another based on graphics performance. Consoles aren't on the crest of anything.
In addition, I'd say you're overly complicating the picture. The byline today isn't, "4K sucks why would I ever need it!", it's, "wow, these games look great in HD!" Which is pathetic, but not actively damning.
performance, it seems silly to poo poo one console and not another based on graphics performance.
1 GB RAM is about what we were expecting (but not hoping) for.
8 GB storage is kind of lame, but probably a non-issue for the people that care about it.
Shader Model 4.0 is a nice surprise, I think.
with shader model 5 out, lulz. but sure, for nintendo. enjoy that 4670M, state of the art for mid-range dell laptops in 2009!
PS3 and Xbox360 are hitting their limits. Slow CPUs, lack of RAM, and DX9 equivalent GPUs cannot reproduce the Zelda demo.
if the preceding statements regarding HD weren't "Lol, who needs HD!?" and various other fingerwagging poopooing then i'd agree.
with shader model 5 out, lulz. but sure, for nintendo. enjoy that 4670M, state of the art for mid-range dell laptops in 2009!
if the preceding statements regarding HD weren't "Lol, who needs HD!?" and various other fingerwagging poopooing then i'd agree.
I've also said before, but you're likely impugning one set of fanboys for something an entirely different set said.with shader model 5 out, lulz. but sure, for nintendo. enjoy that 4670M, state of the art for mid-range dell laptops in 2009!
Hey, 2009 is better than anything we were expecting before. (2008 at best.) So that's the opposite of disappointing.
but you're likely impugning one set of fanboys for something an entirely different set said.
well, enjoy your 360+ games with improved stencil effects, slightly better anti-aliasing, cleaner mip levels, and bc6 texture compression! oh, and if nintendo ever gets decent developer apis, maybe you'll be able to pick up semi-modern hlsl semantics!
what we'll end up with is : LOL, if you care about graphics you should have got a $1200 PC, who cares that the $350 X720 is only $50 more expensive than the last gen bracket Wii U - you should be looking at PCs!!!!!!! #fuckingbullshitDon't be stupid. There are PCs you can buy now that will do what the next Xbox/PS can do for less than that. We just haven't seen the games for PCs that take advantage of it because all the games are made with consoles in mind (prohibitive budgets aside). Laugh at Wii U all you want, it won't be that system that holds things back - for better or worse - it will be the 'high end' closed-systems: the PS3s, 360s and PSPs of the coming generation. This is just rhetorical sleight of hand, or outright delusion.
Quotewell, enjoy your 360+ games with improved stencil effects, slightly better anti-aliasing, cleaner mip levels, and bc6 texture compression! oh, and if nintendo ever gets decent developer apis, maybe you'll be able to pick up semi-modern hlsl semantics!
from a friend who was technical lead on two (completed) Wii U games and quit whilst working on a 3rd
"best case scenario for first year : higher res textures. AND SUPER MARIO!!!!!!! At best."
pcs are too diverse, hardware-wise. only NOW has the baseline spec for a pc game exceeded the platform specifications for the 360/ps3.Because the baseline specifications for PC games is the 360/PS3. That's what the games are designed for. Also, PC developers went over to console this gen. This is embarrassing.
the only thing that held graphics and game implementations back was the fact that this generation went on WAY too fucking long. shit's gunna get real in 2013, though.Shit's gunna get real shit.
Don't be stupid. There are PCs you can buy now that will do what the next Xbox/PS can do for less than that. We just haven't seen the games for PCs that take advantage of it because all the games are made with consoles in mind (prohibitive budgets aside). Laugh at Wii U all you want, it won't be that system that holds things back - for better or worse - it will be the 'high end' closed-systems: the PS3s, 360s and PSPs of the coming generation. This is just rhetorical sleight of hand, or outright delusion.
Durango to Wii gap is much larger than X360 to Wii U.
The argument they hold everyone back - like if they failed or didn't exist that games that run on super high end PCs would suddenly sprout up ? I dunno - smells like somethine we all hope for whilst we sit wanking into caviar in our top hats whilst sipping champagne out of high class call girls munchattas.I hope while wanking into my caviar, you fear while sipping from your munchatta. I talked facts, you conceded. Your attempts at outlandish and distracting hypotheticals are noted.
Certainly, I'm expecting that. But the more important thing in my eyes is whether the Wii U to Durango gap is smaller than the Wii to 360 gap. It seems unlikely it isn't, so I'm not at upset at Wii U's performance.
hope while wanking into my caviar, you fear while sipping from your munchatta. I talked facts, you conceded. Your attempts at outlandish and distracting hypotheticals are noted.
Durango to Wii gap is much larger than X360 to Wii U.
Certainly, I'm expecting that. But the more important thing in my eyes is whether the Wii U to Durango gap is smaller than the Wii to 360 gap. It seems unlikely it isn't, so I'm not at upset at Wii U's performance.
doh got that statement wrong
the gap between Durango to Wii U is going to be wider than X360 to Wii.
MUCH wider.
MUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCH wider.
pcs are too diverse, hardware-wise. only NOW has the baseline spec for a pc game exceeded the platform specifications for the 360/ps3.Because the baseline specifications for PC games is the 360/PS3. That's what the games are designed for. Also, PC developers went over to console this gen. This is embarrassing.Quotethe only thing that held graphics and game implementations back was the fact that this generation went on WAY too fucking long. shit's gunna get real in 2013, though.Shit's gunna get real shit.
If anything - console gaming SAVED PC gaming. FACT!:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
doh got that statement wrong
the gap between Durango to Wii U is going to be wider than X360 to Wii.
MUCH wider.
MUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCH wider.
I guess we'll see, but I'm skeptical. Wii U is 2007-2009 era tech, while the competition will ostensibly be 2012, right? 3-5 year gap. Wii to 360 was at least a 5 year gap.
Ah, "Prove it!" The shittiest debate tactic .
Van can prove it with his cock pics
Please post cock pics I need a MS flavored cock so bad MMMMMM SURFACE COCK RT
Even Nintendo doesn't defend their shitty hardware as much as Andrex
1 GB RAM is about what we were expecting (but not hoping) for.
8 GB storage is kind of lame, but probably a non-issue for the people that care about it.
Shader Model 4.0 is a nice surprise, I think.
Oh andy, keep fucking that chicken. Someone has been consistently right re: weeeeeoooooo tech specs in this thread, and it ain't you
my favorite andrex posts are the ones where you can feel his seething jealousy towards industry insiders that crush him with info that he cant access
my favorite andrex posts are the ones where you can feel his seething jealousy towards industry insiders that crush him with info that he cant access
Well I mean, there's no reason to be smug about it. :'(
my favorite andrex posts are the ones where you can feel his seething jealousy towards industry insiders that crush him with info that he cant access
Well I mean, there's no reason to be smug about it. :'(
There's even less reason to get confrontational about it and ask people to break NDA:s
my favorite andrex posts are the ones where you can feel his seething jealousy towards industry insiders that crush him with info that he cant access
Well I mean, there's no reason to be smug about it. :'(
There's even less reason to get confrontational about it and ask people to break NDA:s
From your point of view. :3
Andrex i think you are wrong regarding the tech of the WiiU, they made it so that the console is in line with the 360 and not much more. So imo it is 2006 tech at best.
He's going to be batshit insane on Thursday :smug
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ur2qgQlnPCw
:lol like wii u could run this.
depends on your definition of "not much more." It isn't a ton, but the GPU and RAM are notably further than the 360. Who knows with next gen.
So a Wii U thread is my most successful thread on The Bore.
Figures.
Tomorrow will be fun
QuoteTomorrow will be fun
ANDREX TOTALLY CALLED ONE OF TOMORROWS GAMES*
* DOESNT TRUST SOURCE**
** REMIND ME TO BRAG IF TRUE!!!
my favorite andrex posts are the ones where you can feel his seething jealousy towards industry insiders that crush him with info that he cant access
ShockingAlberto
Monster Hunter is nothing like Pokemans. Pokemans is at least fun. :smug(http://i.imgur.com/AGK34.gif)
Monster Hunter is nothing like Pokemans. Pokemans is at least fun. :smug
Monster Hunter is nothing like Pokemans. Pokemans is at least fun.
perhaps the same could be said of all games
perhaps the same could be said of all games
75w when running, 40w in sleep mode
25 GB discs, 22.5 MB/second
2 GB RAM: 1GB for OS, 1GB for games
Transfer supported for Wii Virtual Console and WiiWare games
I like Nintendo Directs simply because I get to hear Iwata talk. He has the most pleasant voice. Don't really care at all about the WiiU, but his voice is really.....entrancing.
$150~ for replacement Wii U pad
$350~ for non tard Wii U
How 'bout no?
TOO MANY STANDS
I guess NoA could eat some coin and go for $299 for the non tard version.
lol andrex you don't actually believe that do you
they'd be eating a nasty bite on the exchange rate at those prices, andy. it'll be 299/349 fer sure.
one good point is that it supports external hard drives. i mean, i guess that's good, yeah?
Wii was 25,000 yen, we got it for $250 plus a pack-in game.
Wii was 25,000 yen, we got it for $250 plus a pack-in game.
Changing economic conditions, how do they work?
Wii U Basic - ¥26,250
-White
-8 GB SSD
-Wii U Console
-Wii U Gamepad
-Wii U AC Adapter
-Wii U Gamepad AC Adapter
-HDMI Cable
Wii U Premium - ¥31,500
-Black
-32 GB SSD
-includes Nintendo Premium
-Wii U Console
-Wii U Gamepad
-Wii U AC Adapter
-Wii U Gamepad AC Adapter
-HDMI Cable
-System Stand
-Gamepad Stand
Wii was 25,000 yen, we got it for $250 plus a pack-in game.
Guess we'll see in about 7 hours!
Considering Nintendo's been eating it on exchange rates for a while, even they don't know!
It's nice to see they're including HDMI cables.http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-High-Speed-HDMI-Cable-Meters/dp/B003L1ZYYM/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1347522435&sr=1-1
Kinda high pricing, no?
Both Apple and Nintendo disappointed with their unveilings.
Transfer supported for Wii Virtual Console and WiiWare games
Eh, the American event is still coming and that should feature some games to boot.
QuoteTransfer supported for Wii Virtual Console and WiiWare games
no one clapped this right? I mean - this is a STANDARD function, the fact Nintendo have been fucking people royally on this for an age is the real disgrace.
rather than dance around it later, lets call it :
sub $249 (inclusive) - good price
above $249 to $299 - poor price
$299~ - suicide
Agreed?
If any of you say that 32GB is enough because Microsoft or Sony had less space in their systems when they started, I'll punch you in your stupid faces
Nah, let's not.
Also, way to be negative on something positive!
If any of you say that 32GB is enough because Microsoft or Sony had less space in their systems when they started, I'll punch you in your stupid faces. 32GB is the most pathetic and "we don't get it" part of this announcement. I can't believe this is the premium model, good God.
If any of you say that 32GB is enough because Microsoft or Sony had less space in their systems when they started, I'll punch you in your stupid faces. 32GB is the most pathetic and "we don't get it" part of this announcement. I can't believe this is the premium model, good God.
If any of you say that 32GB is enough because Microsoft or Sony had less space in their systems when they started, I'll punch you in your stupid faces. 32GB is the most pathetic and "we don't get it" part of this announcement. I can't believe this is the premium model, good God.
As i said you can use your external hardrive for it. How are people quickly forgettign that?
Wii U GamePad: 13,440 yen.
Wii U Pro Controller (white, black): 5040 yen.
Wii U GamePad Charging Stand: 1,870 yen
As i said you can use your external hardrive for it. How are people quickly forgettign that?
I didn't forget that. Still doesn't change the fact that two of the current home consoles on the market RIGHT NOW offer OVER SEVEN TIMES more space the the most expensive Wii U SKU. That's pathetic.
As i said you can use your external hardrive for it. How are people quickly forgettign that?
I didn't forget that. Still doesn't change the fact that two of the current home consoles on the market RIGHT NOW offer OVER SEVEN TIMES more space the the most expensive Wii U SKU. That's pathetic.
But then again you can use your 1 TB external hardrive for the WiiU instead of Nintendos own haard drives like MS and Sony did. And those only hold up to 160 GB?
2gb ram is exciting to you? :lol
who in the fuck fills up 1tb of hd space on console shit
That's like saying, you pull down a guys trousers, expecting a 3 inch dick, but it's really 4 inches, and you jump up in the air with a fist pump screaming,"AT LEAST IT WASN'T 3 INCHES"
LESS BAD > MORE BAD
It's not even 2gigs.
1 gig for game and 1 for the OS.
Yes motherfucker, you heard right. This fucking turd of an OS requires 1 gigs of fucking RAM.
VISTA REDEEMED.
That's like saying, you pull down a guys trousers, expecting a 3 inch dick, but it's really 4 inches, and you jump up in the air with a fist pump screaming,"AT LEAST IT WASN'T 3 INCHES"
LESS BAD > MORE BAD
Uhh exactly. How are you not getting this concept? ::)
goddamn i want some cock.
right.
now.
That's like saying, you pull down a guys trousers, expecting a 3 inch dick, but it's really 4 inches, and you jump up in the air with a fist pump screaming,"AT LEAST IT WASN'T 3 INCHES"
LESS BAD > MORE BAD
Uhh exactly. How are you not getting this concept? ::)
You're voting for Obama aren't you?
Shitty MCD's trolling aside guess which game looks more fun?
Yup, Mario.
As i said you can use your external hardrive for it. How are people quickly forgettign that?
I didn't forget that. Still doesn't change the fact that two of the current home consoles on the market RIGHT NOW offer OVER SEVEN TIMES more space the the most expensive Wii U SKU. That's pathetic.
But then again you can use your 1 TB external hardrive for the WiiU instead of Nintendos own haard drives like MS and Sony did. And those only hold up to 160 GB?
Both consoles ship with drives up to 320GB (Sony supports bigger laptop drives for the PS3 too) but please explain to me why I should be expected to buy an external hard-drive when both other systems offer more space at a lower price and I guarantee you the PS3/Xbox The Third will offer more in a little over a years time?
Both consoles ship with drives up to 320GB (Sony supports bigger laptop drives for the PS3 too) but please explain to me why I should be expected to buy an external hard-drive when both other systems offer more space at a lower price and I guarantee you the PS3/Xbox The Third will offer more in a little over a years time?
Shitty MCD's trolling aside guess which game looks more fun?
Yup, Mario.
The second one's a game? Looked like a scene from TDKR and I was all ???
Both consoles ship with drives up to 320GB (Sony supports bigger laptop drives for the PS3 too) but please explain to me why I should be expected to buy an external hard-drive when both other systems offer more space at a lower price and I guarantee you the PS3/Xbox The Third will offer more in a little over a years time?
A $200 Xbox 360 plus that $62 drive is still less than the 32GB Wii U and has more space, which is my point.
we don't know if it's 250 yet, mind. 26,500 yen is over $300.
and in japan, that 32 gb model gives you access to the premium points, which if you plan on going digital with your purchases (and I'd think if you're talking about bigger hard drives, you are), you'd be an idiot to pass up.
A $200 Xbox 360 plus that $62 drive is still less than the 32GB Wii U and has more space, which is my point.
Why not just get the $250 WiiU and the $45 hard drive? It only costs 30 bucks more?
Because why should I make an additional purchase beyond the system? In TWOTHOUSANDTWELVE console storage for PREMIUM CONSOLES shouldn't be 32GB. Imagine the ridicule Sony or Microsoft would get with such a decision in next gen consoles. But oh man, we can ignore Nintendo's clear failure here because of all the wimsy they're packing into those 32GB.
From my end, it's the fact that people on GAF are legitimately saying 32GB is enough for "heavy downloaders". Yeah, maybe if you're downloading NES roms.
I'll grant, judging by the last few home consoles Nintendo released, 32 GB might cover every game I want for it for the entire life of the system.
And 1G for the OS is :wtf
And 1G for the OS is :wtf
when the Wii launched it was around 111 yen to the $
right now, it's 79 yen to $ with many analysts talking about a 68 yen to $ horror scenario possible in the next 2 years.
When Wii launched here, AUS$ was 76c to US$. Wii was US$249/AUS$399
Now, AUS$ is $1.04 to US$1. Lets see what they come up with.
You get to be special "Euro" members for some reason - which means PAL region Price tax!!!
This is like Troll Christmas
Shitty MCD's trolling aside guess which game looks more fun?
Yup, Mario.
setting my chair for 2006 and aiming to get to 88wph - 75Whatwhat? fuxx capacitor am go.
Wii U has Black Ops 2, when will the anti-bro contingent backpedal?
Guys. someone pull that quote that says andrex is NOT a Nintendo fan, written by him.
The Wii had slightly over double the amount of RAM that the GC did, yet I can't really think of any games games that provided significantly better quality textures and such.
Will most likely be the case for the Wii-U. :/
WHERES YOUR GOD NOW ANDREX?
WHERES YOUR GOD NOW ANDREX?
Wii is $200. The question is, is Wii U worth $100/150 more than that? The answer is yes, yes, yes, of course.
wii is $149
Metriod Blast looks like Monday Night Combat
wii is $149
Oh, huh.
Consider both systems at launch. Is the Wii U worth more than the Wii was at launch?
wii is $149
Oh, huh.
Consider both systems at launch. Is the Wii U worth more than the Wii was at launch?
wii is $149
Oh, huh.
Consider both systems at launch. Is the Wii U worth more than the Wii was at launch?
are you throwing the wii under the bus now
wii is $149
Oh, huh.
Consider both systems at launch. Is the Wii U worth more than the Wii was at launch?
So the PS4 should be priced at $1000 at launched?
wii is $149
Oh, huh.
Consider both systems at launch. Is the Wii U worth more than the Wii was at launch?
are you throwing the wii under the bus now
I'm just using logic.
"The Wii wasn't worth what I paid for it, but THIS one, THIS one totally is"
Mario Wii U legitimately looks good.
Lego City legitimately looks bad.
"The Wii wasn't worth what I paid for it, but THIS one, THIS one totally is"
More like, people were happy with the Wii's initial price, and this is only 50/100 more for much more value. :smug
"The Wii wasn't worth what I paid for it, but THIS one, THIS one totally is"
More like, people were happy with the Wii's initial price, and this is only 50/100 more for much more value. :smug
Like who? I remember DCharlie guessing on the GAFcast it could be $150
We got Netflix, gais!
Use your Gamepad as an iPad!
Use your Gamepad as an iPad!
unless you want to pinch to zoom, etc
Use your Gamepad as an iPad!
unless you want to pinch to zoom, etc
Pinch to zoom is only useful when Nintendo tells me it is
Eventually, Andy's stomach is gonna rupture from the sheer volume of bullshit he's eating up. Poor boy.
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la la la la The Drex can't hear you
modern family = system seller
holy fuck. Bayonetta 2
The japanese feed is a lot better. Actually showing games.
Bayo 2 Published by Nintendo in JP
Monster Hunter 3G HD
monster hunter 3g wii u hd tri something something. did people already know about this?
MonHun and Bayo 2
Nintendoes what MS don't:
- games.
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DCharlie's been dickteasing it for months.
HARDCORES FORCED TO BUY WII U OR ELSE
how many nintendo faithful ever played the first bayonetta, do you figure
QuoteDCharlie's been dickteasing it for months.
YOU don't trust your sources, but i hear you called it and can now go brag ;)
(shame you changed it to be MH4!)
OH WOW - but 3DS version coming to US? that's a change in plan
how many nintendo faithful ever played the first bayonetta, do you figure
yes lets recall how many millions Bayonetta sold....
oh, right.
Bayonetta 2 never leaves Japan. Calling it now.
Hehe, Andy excited about a sequel to a game he never played.spoiler (click to show/hide)But seriously, that's good for Nintendo.[close]
Bayonetta 2 never leaves Japan. Calling it now.
skylanders U? will sell billions
No applause at Black Ops 2 :lol:lol:lol:lol
Haha, like that Bayo 2 "exclusivity" will last.
Haha, like that Bayo 2 "exclusivity" will last.
Haha, like that Bayo 2 "exclusivity" will last.
Published by Nintendo, it'll last.
Haha, like that Bayo 2 "exclusivity" will last.
Sega cancelled it like last year. :lol Only resurrected BECAUSE of Nintendo (and probably the Kamiya-Sakurai connection.) Doubt it's going anywhere else (unlike Rayman which I always figured was timed.)
Haha, like that Bayo 2 "exclusivity" will last.
Published by Nintendo, it'll last.
didn't stop mass effect
Play it on the gamepad in glorious 480p
Play it on the gamepad in glorious 480pTo be fair, most people will be playing it in 608p. That's only marginally better.
I'm sure Nintendo will be thrilled with the 40k Bayo 2 sells in NA.
Cant be arsed to watch thisIt's over and you didn't miss much.
Mario power-ups in TTT2? :wtf
Wow, lots of bitter tears in here. I hope Andrex brought a bucket. 8)
Only reason Bayo 2 is exlclusive for now is that its a shit IP that didnt sell fuck and Nintendo could get it on the cheap.
I didnt play the first one btw, just like everybody else.
Still too early to announce all the launch details? This is definitely a rushed launch.
Treyarch gets it with the controller, that all looked like functional stuff people would actually use
Has Nintendo system got ANY games of the stylish action genre? No DMC, no Ninja Gaiden, no Bayo, so Bayo 2 is the first?
Eh, i'll catch the highlights in thread form later then!Cant be arsed to watch thisIt's over and you didn't miss much.
wait, there's no online?
Has Nintendo system got ANY games of the stylish action genre? No DMC, no Ninja Gaiden, no Bayo, so Bayo 2 is the first?
Still too early to announce all the launch details? This is definitely a rushed launch.
::)
We got bundle details, the day, the prices, the games, the colors.
Has Nintendo system got ANY games of the stylish action genre? No DMC, no Ninja Gaiden, no Bayo, so Bayo 2 is the first?
Depends on when it hits. NG2 could be the first.
Still too early to announce all the launch details? This is definitely a rushed launch.
::)
We got bundle details, the day, the prices, the games, the colors.
They said they still don't know all the games that will come out on launch day vs launch "window" ::)
fuck, will buy 360+ for bayonetta 2
i have to say that when i owned a wii(s), the online for mario kart ran incredibly smooth, never had any lag or missed connections - yeah it was basic, but it worked fine
MH3U is next March.
Wait-- is Bayonetta 2 not being directed by Kamiya?
Fingers crossed this is just a temporary exclusivity buyout. Hold out hope for Bayo 2 Sigma!
Has Nintendo system got ANY games of the stylish action genre? No DMC, no Ninja Gaiden, no Bayo, so Bayo 2 is the first?Viewtiful Joe if that counts. There was that crappy-looking DS Ninja Gaiden.
Wait-- is Bayonetta 2 not being directed by Kamiya?
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Interestingly - everything negative said about the Vita applies to the Wii U even more : "it's expensive compared to the competition" - "it's nothing but ports!"
Has Nintendo system got ANY games of the stylish action genre? No DMC, no Ninja Gaiden, no Bayo, so Bayo 2 is the first?Viewtiful Joe if that counts. There was that crappy-looking DS Ninja Gaiden.
Bayo 2 could still happen on other platforms, but surely someone would have to come and step in for Sega? Though I can't see Nintendo just giving it up after paying to finish development. This was a dead parrot before that, remember.
Bayo 2 could still happen on other platforms, but surely someone would have to come and step in for Sega? Though I can't see Nintendo just giving it up after paying to finish development. This was a dead parrot before that, remember.
Exactly. Nintendo paid to REVIVE this game. No way anyone steps up to buy them out for what was almost a dead franchise.
Fingers crossed this is just a temporary exclusivity buyout. Hold out hope for Bayo 2 Sigma!
Bayo 2 ain't going anywhere. SEGA isn't putting even one more cent into its development. So unless Nintendo feels like footing the bill for the other systems...
Now I fucking need one at some point.
Platinum just shot themselves in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about Japanese culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in America where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in Japan, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the japanese public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase Bayonetta 2 for the Wii U, nor will they purchase any of Platinum's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Platinum has alienated an entire market with this move.
Platinum, publicly apologize and make Bayonetta 2 multiplatform or you can kiss your business goodbye.
Bayo 2 ain't going anywhere. SEGA isn't putting even one more cent into its development. So unless Nintendo feels like footing the bill for the other systems...
Now I fucking need one at some point.
Fuck. I'm salty.
Real talk:
I am interested in Wonderful 101, Pikmin 3, Bayo 2 and NSMBU
let's not kid ourselves, over half of us will own one (or more) before it's over, for one reason or another
but i ain't buying it for $300
And Wii U is priced exactly in the range of where new consoles are traditionally prices whereas Vita was JACKED UP compared to every single good handheld to that point.
So glad Nintendo isn't charging $500, cause I'd pay it.
So glad Nintendo isn't charging $500, cause I'd pay it.
So glad Nintendo isn't charging $500, cause I'd pay it.
No you wouldn't - it took you how long to get a 3DS?
remember that Andrex has -already- committed to getting his three sisters a Wii U - plus one for himself?
$1200 - cheapest buy in - then he'll need to buy 4 games at least right? If the games use waggle, as they all don't have a Wii, then he'll need to buy x3 "Wii pack" bundles as well.
you better start sucking more dicks, Andrex!
Sucking so many dicks will drive the dollar-per-dick price right down. :'(
ugh andrex just mod your goddamned wii. you can play ALL of those VC games through emulators
Hey is this thing backwards compatibleCereal? Yes.
Sucking so many dicks will drive the dollar-per-dick price right down. :'(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCJAOaPiz5M
:lol
It's Tekken Tag Tournament 2 with some added Nintendo outfits and mushrooms.
Will Wii games be playable on the pad? I've never owned (or even played) a Wii, so Wii U + the couple of good Wii games would not be that bad. Although 300 Eurodollars is still too much for me.
Darksiders is out already Andrex wtf. Why not buy it now.
all you need to know about Wii U fans is that Lego City is seen as a positive in their listsThat looked pretty cool though.
QuoteDarksiders is out already Andrex wtf. Why not buy it now.
Not on Nintendo platform = not worthy of playing
QuoteDarksiders is out already Andrex wtf. Why not buy it now.
Not on Nintendo platform = does not exist
Launch Window Games (November to March):
Wipeout 3
remember that Andrex has -already- committed to getting his three sisters a Wii U - plus one for himself?
$1200 - cheapest buy in - then he'll need to buy 4 games at least right? If the games use waggle, as they all don't have a Wii, then he'll need to buy x3 "Wii pack" bundles as well.
you better start sucking more dicks, Andrex!
oh p.s. didn't see a single thing today that made me think "Wow - the X360/PS3 could never do anything like this"
aka
CURRENT GEN TOTAL
and any delusions that the Wii U is going to be running next gen baseline stuff is exactly that.... a delusion.
remember that Andrex has -already- committed to getting his three sisters a Wii U - plus one for himself?
$1200 - cheapest buy in - then he'll need to buy 4 games at least right? If the games use waggle, as they all don't have a Wii, then he'll need to buy x3 "Wii pack" bundles as well.
you better start sucking more dicks, Andrex!
Andrex, how old are your sisters? :-*
Launch Window Games (November to March):
Wipeout 3
Wait, what ??? ??? ???
Andrex are you straight up trolling or do you have some issues? You can PM me.
oh p.s. didn't see a single thing today that made me think "Wow - the X360/PS3 could never do anything like this"
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CURRENT GEN TOTAL
and any delusions that the Wii U is going to be running next gen baseline stuff is exactly that.... a delusion.
Salt salt salt.
Dude, he's totally gonna buy a Wii U and every game that comes out for it
Is it region free BTW?
Definitely getting:
To save $300
Maybe getting:
Laid
I hope they hack it on day 1Is it region free BTW?
bwahahahahahhahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa no
I hope they hack it on day 1Is it region free BTW?
bwahahahahahhahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa no
And oh, I am getting this on launch or a bit after launch for sure. Not like I can get laid anyway.
As said about the new Rayman, that'd be a game which'd cost $5-$15 on a real console. :Pspoiler (click to show/hide)will buy eventually :gloomy[close]
It went down to $20 in like a week 8)As said about the new Rayman, that'd be a game which'd cost $5-$15 on a real console. :Pspoiler (click to show/hide)will buy eventually :gloomy[close]
You know Origins was $60 on PS3/360... right...?
Mario looks good, but the best platformer of the last 10 years is Mirrors Edge :-*
Andrex, cool I'm happy you're trolling mayne.
Just need Nintendo getting Devil's Third the same way for even more salt :lol :lol
Just need Nintendo getting Devil's Third the same way for even more salt :lol :lol
Is that Tecmo? Would be pretty likely then.
Definitely getting:
To save $300
Maybe getting:
Laid
Definitely getting:
To save $300
Maybe getting:
Laid
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Look at the budget animation though, luigis feet dont even connect with the stairs
Look at the budget animation though, luigis feet dont even connect with the stairs
He's just walking in front of the stairs.
Has Nintendo system got ANY games of the stylish action genre? No DMC, no Ninja Gaiden, no Bayo, so Bayo 2 is the first?
Depends on when it hits. NG2 could be the first.
Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2? You poor people.
Look at the budget animation though, luigis feet dont even connect with the stairs
He's just walking in front of the stairs.
Actually the perspective is such that he's behind them.
uh, andrex, "dat parallax" is the result of using 4D matrices for a change. you DO know how 3D graphics work, right?
"it's like EVERYTHING HAPPENS IN PERSPECTIVE-CORRECT 3D!!!!!!!"
You guys should try being less negative. Does wonders for the aging process.
You guys should try being less negative. Does wonders for the aging process.
You're right. Oh my God! Wii U will have HDMI-out!
:bow Nintendo! :bow2
You guys should try being less negative. Does wonders for the aging process.
You're right. Oh my God! Wii U will have HDMI-out!
:bow Nintendo! :bow2
I've been waiting for a GameCube HD for years! :bow2 #stuffandrexsays
so 1 GB memory for games. Thoughts? Better than this generation but it will be crap in 2 years or so :/
You guys should try being less negative. Does wonders for the aging process.
You're right. Oh my God! Wii U will have HDMI-out!
:bow Nintendo! :bow2
It'll be very interesting to see what the next Xbox and PS end up costing.
It'll be very interesting to see what the next Xbox and PS end up costing.
They'll probably be $399 to the gasp and awe of Iwata's penny pincher pockets.
It'll be very interesting to see what the next Xbox end up costing.
It'll be very interesting to see what the next Xbox end up costing.
:teehee
I'd honestly be very surprised to see an HDMI cable in the box. Not because it represents any real value, but because I imagine retailers would have a fit. Then again, maybe they've given up on the notion that a significant number of consumers are gullible enough to pay $50 - $100 for a cable they can get online for a few dollars?
After Wii I promised myself to never buy a Nintendo console EVER AGAIN.
And I am keeping that promise.
Do we know if there is a limit to the external HD size?
After Wii I promised myself to never buy a Nintendo console EVER AGAIN.
And I am keeping that promise.
I distinctly remember telling you over and over again, "The Wii version of Twilight Princess will be inferior, wait 4 weeks to play it on GC"
At least you're learning.
Do we know if there is a limit to the external HD size?
There isn't one, however SD(HC) cards are limited to 32 GB (limitation of the format, there are higher capacity ones but those don't conform to the spec IIRC.)
Do we know if there is a limit to the external HD size?
There isn't one, however SD(HC) cards are limited to 32 GB (limitation of the format, there are higher capacity ones but those don't conform to the spec IIRC.)
wait we can only use SD cards or any external drive?
After Wii I promised myself to never buy a Nintendo console EVER AGAIN.
And I am keeping that promise.
I distinctly remember telling you over and over again, "The Wii version of Twilight Princess will be inferior, wait 4 weeks to play it on GC"
At least you're learning.
There isn't oneUnless it requires FAT32.
After Wii I promised myself to never buy a Nintendo console EVER AGAIN.
And I am keeping that promise.
I distinctly remember telling you over and over again, "The Wii version of Twilight Princess will be inferior, wait 4 weeks to play it on GC"
At least you're learning.
Wii version is actually better.
Haha. Both versions are fine, but I prefer wii version for the fishing controls. :heart
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Sorry I'm out of the loop, what is this shit?
You see Lager, instead of developing new games for all of their cherished IPs, Nintendo made a virtual tour for them instead! Why play an ACTUAL FZERO GAME when you can just look at it instead?
The different reactions on twitter in America and Japan (well 8-4 n friends) is interesting
You see Lager, instead of developing new games for all of their cherished IPs, Nintendo made a virtual tour for them instead! Why play an ACTUAL FZERO GAME when you can just look at it instead?
tell me youre joking
is it like a digital amusement park?
The different reactions on twitter in America and Japan (well 8-4 n friends) is interesting
What are the reactions in Japan like?
There isn't oneUnless it requires FAT32.
I'd bet MS is gonna have a subsidized XBL Gold contract version of the 720 (or whatever) like that test run they did with the 360 a while back.
I'd bet MS is gonna have a subsidized XBL Gold contract version of the 720 (or whatever) like that test run they did with the 360 a while back.
QuoteThe Nintendo Wii U may only have 8 to 32GB of internal memory, but the company's taking a decidedly open approach to expanding that memory: add your own. "You can plug in a full-on three terabyte hard drive if you want. I'll love you as a digital consumer," Nintendo America CEO and president Reggie Fils-Aime told us during a post-press conference investor Q&A. Much like Sony's PlayStation 3, the Wii U allows for expansion of memory via USB, whether that memory be Flash or otherwise. Fils-Aime explained that, with the continuously dropping price of memory, there was little reason to offer pricing for the Wii U -- available in $300 and $350 -- tied to an evolving hardware model.
"The reason we did it that way is that the cost of that type of storage memory is plummeting. What we didn't want to do is tie a profit model to something that's gonna rapidly decline over time. We'll let the consumer buy as much as they want, as cheaply as they want," Fils-Aime said.
Fils-Aime also confirmed that the Wii U doesn't have TiVO hardware built into it -- functionality will require an existing TiVO box. The same goes for DVR functionality, which Fils-Aime said Nintendo doesn't want consumers to bear the expense of.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/13/wii-u-memory-tivo-dvr/
The bolded makes no sense. If the price rapidly drops then why wouldn't you be able to offer more at a fair price, ya turds?
QuoteThe Nintendo Wii U may only have 8 to 32GB of internal memory, but the company's taking a decidedly open approach to expanding that memory: add your own. "You can plug in a full-on three terabyte hard drive if you want. I'll love you as a digital consumer," Nintendo America CEO and president Reggie Fils-Aime told us during a post-press conference investor Q&A. Much like Sony's PlayStation 3, the Wii U allows for expansion of memory via USB, whether that memory be Flash or otherwise. Fils-Aime explained that, with the continuously dropping price of memory, there was little reason to offer pricing for the Wii U -- available in $300 and $350 -- tied to an evolving hardware model.
"The reason we did it that way is that the cost of that type of storage memory is plummeting. What we didn't want to do is tie a profit model to something that's gonna rapidly decline over time. We'll let the consumer buy as much as they want, as cheaply as they want," Fils-Aime said.
Fils-Aime also confirmed that the Wii U doesn't have TiVO hardware built into it -- functionality will require an existing TiVO box. The same goes for DVR functionality, which Fils-Aime said Nintendo doesn't want consumers to bear the expense of.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/13/wii-u-memory-tivo-dvr/
The bolded makes no sense. If the price rapidly drops then why wouldn't you be able to offer more at a fair price, ya turds?
QuoteThe Nintendo Wii U may only have 8 to 32GB of internal memory, but the company's taking a decidedly open approach to expanding that memory: add your own. "You can plug in a full-on three terabyte hard drive if you want. I'll love you as a digital consumer," Nintendo America CEO and president Reggie Fils-Aime told us during a post-press conference investor Q&A. Much like Sony's PlayStation 3, the Wii U allows for expansion of memory via USB, whether that memory be Flash or otherwise. Fils-Aime explained that, with the continuously dropping price of memory, there was little reason to offer pricing for the Wii U -- available in $300 and $350 -- tied to an evolving hardware model.
"The reason we did it that way is that the cost of that type of storage memory is plummeting. What we didn't want to do is tie a profit model to something that's gonna rapidly decline over time. We'll let the consumer buy as much as they want, as cheaply as they want," Fils-Aime said.
Fils-Aime also confirmed that the Wii U doesn't have TiVO hardware built into it -- functionality will require an existing TiVO box. The same goes for DVR functionality, which Fils-Aime said Nintendo doesn't want consumers to bear the expense of.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/13/wii-u-memory-tivo-dvr/
The bolded makes no sense. If the price rapidly drops then why wouldn't you be able to offer more at a fair price, ya turds?
here's a stupid article
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/09/13/wii-u-launch-price-compared-against-history-or-its-not-that-e/
Reggie: "With CPU prices dropping, we saw no reason to tie the Wii U down to a profit model that's gonna rapidly decline over time. We'll let the consumer buy as fast a CPU as they want, as cheaply as they want."
Is this was battered wife syndrome looks like?
It doesn't "require" anything. It uses USB Mass Storage Mode, the system doesn't have know or care what's on the other end of the wire, just that something's there and how much is left.Well that's good, I hate having to keep a FAT32 partition on my external for the stupid things that can't read anything but it.
ive just never been able to understand the dipshit mindset that causes a person to stan for a company instead of stepping back and evaluating all choices objectively to choose the best value for themselves
ive just never been able to understand the dipshit mindset that causes a person to stan for a company instead of stepping back and evaluating all choices objectively to choose the best value for themselves
If Nintendo had to go third party due to losing money in the hardware business, they'd have to develop their software on less whimsical hardware. Can you imagine Zelda on Microsoft hardware? Yeah, me neither.
Unless of course we're talking about a PC emulating Nintendo hardware. Then it's awesome!
:bow Dolphin! :bow2
What about Zelda and Metroid on STEAMBOX.
Is STEAMBOX designed by Nintendo? Is it emulating hardware designed by Nintendo? If not, then it's not whimsical enough and can fuck off.
Add me to Steam, Youngblood.
Zelda and Metroid on Dolphin on STEAMBOX.
I guess my feeling is why do people want this? My 360 harddrive is full and I don't want to get a new one because their proprietary drives are expense as fuck. Reducing the cost on hardware and buying an external (or for most people I image just using one they already have) that I can use across all next gen systems sounds awesome. A philosophy that supports use getting our own memory to fit our own needs is a good thing.
Still both versions are over priced but throwing in a 100gb HD isn't going to make me feel better. That's like a 10$ upgrade for a 50$ price gouge.
A Nintendo representative confirmed to Polygon that $59.99 will be the most common MSRP for Wii U titles, but that's a "baseline price," adding that, "specific games could be more or less."
What is the Nintendo fan response going to be to 60 dollar games? Are they going to suddenly support it?! "It's only 60 dollars" FIND OUT SOON.
"None of the launch-window titles support dual GamePad play," Trinen said. "As a result we won't be selling the GamePad as a separate accessory. It will be released once the content is there to support it. Our anticipation is that there will be (games that support it) some time next year."
Once the support is added, Nintendo will release the price for the standalone controller, he said.
What is the Nintendo fan response going to be to 60 dollar games? Are they going to suddenly support it?! "It's only 60 dollars" FIND OUT SOON..
Keep in mind that Nintendo almost has to either adhere to the 59.99 baseline or elevate it to prevent the average joe consumer from making erroneous value attributions. If multi-plat game on PS3/360 retails for 59.99 and the same exact game is 49.99 on the Wii-U, the immediate presumption is that the latter version is somehow inferior. The same principle applies in comparing Nintendo's own first-party efforts to say, a first-party 59.99 title on PS3 or 360. The theoretically cheaper Nintendo game is going to be stigmatized in one way or another by irrational consumers and ironically may suffer in sales performance.
The pricing discrepancy worked with the Wii because it was ostensibly inferior hardware relative to its competitors and wasn't actively trying to grab any significant mindshare of the core gamer.
Well, you guys can always consider getting the black Wii premium deal if you don't want to pay full price for 1st party games. Saving around $6 may not seem like much, but if you buy around 10 games that way, then you will have saved enough money to use toward the purchase of another game.
Don't really get the price thing. If your game is $10 cheaper then fuck I'm buying your console's version. I honestly don't think that price logic works in the video game industry. If it did, why are used sales at Gamestop so high?
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You're right and thats my point. Even at a shitty price difference people still buy them because they don't care. It's cheaper and thats better. That logic that "oh if it's more expensive people will think it's better" has been proven to be wrong so much it's not even funny. The PS3 failed. The Wii did well. Non subscripition MMO's thrive. People love thier cheap iphone games. In the realm of video games, I very much doubt that logic has any place.Don't really get the price thing. If your game is $10 cheaper then fuck I'm buying your console's version. I honestly don't think that price logic works in the video game industry. If it did, why are used sales at Gamestop so high?
Used games at Gamestop still cost $57.99, though...
NOT ALL GAMES ARE GOING TO BE $60. IT ISN'T THAT BIG OF A DEAL.
Edit: Is it true this doesn't have an ethernet port?
MOAR pleaseThread is pretty subdued right now.
Just like when PC games cost $50 and everyone assumes that version is inferior.You're forgetting you have to pay $3000 every month to upgrade your Graphics Card and McAfee Virus Scan.
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What if PS4/Xbox8 games are also 60?
Even better for Wii U, they'll be seen as the same value! :spinThe obvious thing to do is raise WiiU prices to $70 or $80 so people know about the superior value.
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What if PS4/Xbox8 games are also 60?
Even better for Wii U, they'll be seen as the same value! :spin
Wii U owners can wirelessly transfer content such as Miis, and WiiWare and Virtual Console games to their Wii U systems. Both systems will need to be connected to the Internet and the Wii U will need an SD card to facilitate the transfer. The process is very similar to transferring content from Nintendo DS to Nintendo 3DS or from Nintendo 3DS to Nintendo 3DS XL
Wii, WiiWare, and Virtual Console games will be supported on Wii U much the same way that GameCube titles were supported on Wii, without any special features or GamePad support.
In an interview with Nintendo of America, they stated that the Virtual Console transfer process was not confirmed to be available at launch, and would require both systems to be present and an SD card.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkdqL2rhWns
Wii, WiiWare, and Virtual Console games will be supported on Wii U much the same way that GameCube titles were supported on Wii, without any special features or GamePad support.
In an interview with Nintendo of America, they stated that the Virtual Console transfer process was not confirmed to be available at launch, and would require both systems to be present and an SD card. The transfer process works much in the same way the DSi to 3DS process works today.
You'd think letting you play the virtual console games or most of them at least on the pad would be something that comes to mind right away at least.
all you need to know about Wii U fans is that Lego City is seen as a positive in their lists
I will probably buy one at launch with Warriors Orochi 3 Hyper (the REAL killer app to me), Rayman Legends, and NSMBU.
I will probably buy one at launch with Warriors Orochi 3 Hyper (the REAL killer app to me), Rayman Legends, and NSMBU.
???
Australian pricing is really good.
AUS$349/$429 official prices. One retailer has already discounted the price of the premium to $399. For reference, 160gb PS3 is $349 and 320gb is , and 360 goes between $250 for 4gb without Kinect up to $429 for 250gb with Kinect. So they're coming in at level pegging to the current consoles. Vita is also $349 here :teehee
Software though is going to be the kicker, expecting AUS$90-$110, probably $10-30 more than the other platform titles.
Eh? I really doubt it will be $110.
Any new features?
No optical port on the back of the WiiU. It's your fault for not having a more modern amplifierI have a Pioneer HDMI compatible amp but I still use Optical that is connected from the amp to the TV.
No optical port on the back of the WiiU. It's your fault for not having a more modern amplifierI have a Pioneer HDMI compatible amp but I still use Optical that is connected from the amp to the TV.
Much more convenient than switching HDMI channels every goddamn time. HD audio be damned.
WO3 is the best musou I've played so nintendo fans are in for a treat. If they buy it of course.
In an interview with Nintendo of America, they stated that the Virtual Console transfer process was not confirmed to be available at launch, and would require both systems to be present and an SD card.
they stated that the Virtual Console transfer process was not confirmed to be available at launch
transfer process was not confirmed to be available at launch
not confirmed to be available at launch
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http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/31715QuoteWii, WiiWare, and Virtual Console games will be supported on Wii U much the same way that GameCube titles were supported on Wii, without any special features or GamePad support.
In an interview with Nintendo of America, they stated that the Virtual Console transfer process was not confirmed to be available at launch, and would require both systems to be present and an SD card. The transfer process works much in the same way the DSi to 3DS process works today.
Opportunity wasted :maf
and would require both systems to be present and an SD card.
Oh, that's fine. I would rather use my TV than a small low-quality screen to play games.
it's not like people are buying musou games on any system at this point. orochi 3 couldn't even justify a retail release in NA.
Maybe getting:
Laid
does anyone know if the wiiu pad charges?
the 350 versions comes with a charging cable but the 300 does not.
I'm not talking about resolution or pixel density.
I'm not talking about resolution or pixel density.
dat oled
Image Andrex posted a few pages back indicates you get a AC adapter for the pad in both: http://i.imgur.com/AsSlA.jpg
Oh man, having the A/B/X/Y buttons underneath the right stick is going to be a huge pain in the ass.
"At least, I won't acknowledge it if it is!"
does anyone know if the wiiu pad charges?
the 350 versions comes with a charging cable but the 300 does not.
Then how the hell do you charge it? Trinen said in an interview that it requires its own AC adapter to charge.
Hey dopes
I wonder if Andrex is acting excited? That he might be trying to hide his true disappointment. Cause what Joe said is right, The Wii is what broke my nintardism, due to lack of whimsy of course.
I'm fucking tired of Nintendo having like 20 different controllers, devicies, cables and shit that are needed for the "full wiiuuuuu~ experience." What the dick happened to jut shipping with one controller.
That is Nintendo's biggest failure, I think: the more dependency on a handful of separate hardware, the worse the experience.
I wonder if Andrex is acting excited? That he might be trying to hide his true disappointment. Cause what Joe said is right, The Wii is what broke my nintardism, due to lack of whimsy of course.
My mother just asked me if the U tablet was a good thing to get for the Wii. After I explained the Wii U, she called it stupid, and simply walked away. I'm not saying this is indicative of the type of reception Nintendo is in for this holiday but I'm not surprised.Why do you think they aren't selling those separately yet?
I don't thinks its as convenient as you think, EmCee. That's too much money to play fucking games, overall it could cost more than the next gen alternatives for the hardcore crowd they are trying to go for. And who knows what "non-gamers" reactions would be.
Can I use my Wavebirds?
Can I use my Wavebirds?
Why would you? Pro Controllers have rumble and rechargeable batteries.
No GCN BC or ports. Like the newer Wii's.
Maybe someone could figure out an adapter?
If Nintendo didn't have to try to be a special and unique snowflake, they could have *gasp* sunk all of the money for their shitty controller into the system they could have something decent that would be relevant for more than a year or two. Shocking concept, I know!
How is the console looking good on the back of 3rd party games?
Am I missing some big names?
Cod - PS360
Darksiders - Already out
Batman - Already out
???
Without really looking into it, I figured it was a silly question. However, the fact that even newer Wiis don't have Cube support is news to me.
The redesigned Wii, also known the "Wii Family Edition" has the same dimensions as the original model, is designed to sit horizontally (the vertical feet are still present; however, the front labels are rotated and a stand is no longer included) and is not compatible with Nintendo GameCube games or accessories. It was announced on August 17, 2011 and released in Europe and North America in October 2011
Without really looking into it, I figured it was a silly question. However, the fact that even newer Wiis don't have Cube support is news to me.
Guess it's Europe only: http://www.destructoid.com/new-slim-wii-announced-won-t-play-gamecube-games-209100.phtml
I had only heard about a "new model" last year and assumed it was all of them now.
oh it comes with a sensor bar anyways, yeah i don't get the complaint now either. At worst you'll be buying extra pro controllers unless you never bought a wii before and absolutely need those extra wiimotes for nintendoland (lol).
Stick to arguing about clockcycles, folks.
All I know is that fucking waggle is almost dead...who gives a shit about anything other than that.
WO3 is the best musou I've played so nintendo fans are in for a treat. If they buy it of course.
it's not like people are buying musou games on any system at this point. orochi 3 couldn't even justify a retail release in NA.
All I know is that fucking waggle is almost dead...who gives a shit about anything other than that.
It was a dumb move to call it Wii U, that name invited confusion. You have people like Fallon mistaking it for a Wii peripheral on national TV (and he actually plays games). My fiance asked about it (her kids have a Wii), and she was confused that it was a tablet peripheral. I've heard this same thing a few other times. Outside our little insular sphere, no one knows what the fuck it is, and that's not because they're "stupid" or "ignorant casuals," it's because Wii U is a dumb name, and combined with making it look almost exactly like a fucking Wii peripheral their confusion is entirely understandable. If they were gonna insist on retaining that Wii brand and look, they should have named it the SuperWii or something similar. I know that's a goofy name, but it's better than Wii U, and denotes a more powerful new console, just like the Super Nintendo did back when. People see that tablet and the name Wii U, and they assume that Wii U is what the tablet is called, and it's something you buy for the Wii like the Wii Fit. They could have saved themselves a lot of hassle and consumer confusion just by naming it something else.
It was a dumb move to call it Wii U, that name invited confusion. You have people like Fallon mistaking it for a Wii peripheral on national TV (and he actually plays games). My fiance asked about it (her kids have a Wii), and she was confused that it was a tablet peripheral. I've heard this same thing a few other times. Outside our little insular sphere, no one knows what the fuck it is, and that's not because they're "stupid" or "ignorant casuals," it's because Wii U is a dumb name, and combined with making it look almost exactly like a fucking Wii peripheral their confusion is entirely understandable. If they were gonna insist on retaining that Wii brand and look, they should have named it the SuperWii or something similar. I know that's a goofy name, but it's better than Wii U, and denotes a more powerful new console, just like the Super Nintendo did back when. People see that tablet and the name Wii U, and they assume that Wii U is what the tablet is called, and it's something you buy for the Wii like the Wii Fit. They could have saved themselves a lot of hassle and consumer confusion just by naming it something else.The fact that the actual console looks similar probably doesn't help things either.
All I know is that fucking waggle is almost dead...who gives a shit about anything other than that.
Kinect 2 included with every 720!
Q: This should be fun. We have EEDAR's Jesse Divnich saying Wii U is unlikely to persuade core gamers with that $299 price point...
Reggie Fils-Aime: He needs to see Call of Duty that we have here, or Assassin's Creed.
I think it's part of the reason they're not offering the tablet for sale separately at launch, as well.
It was a dumb move to call it Wii U, that name invited confusion. You have people like Fallon mistaking it for a Wii peripheral on national TV (and he actually plays games). My fiance asked about it (her kids have a Wii), and she was confused that it was a tablet peripheral. I've heard this same thing a few other times. Outside our little insular sphere, no one knows what the fuck it is, and that's not because they're "stupid" or "ignorant casuals," it's because Wii U is a dumb name, and combined with making it look almost exactly like a fucking Wii peripheral their confusion is entirely understandable. If they were gonna insist on retaining that Wii brand and look, they should have named it the SuperWii or something similar. I know that's a goofy name, but it's better than Wii U, and denotes a more powerful new console, just like the Super Nintendo did back when. People see that tablet and the name Wii U, and they assume that Wii U is what the tablet is called, and it's something you buy for the Wii like the Wii Fit. They could have saved themselves a lot of hassle and consumer confusion just by naming it something else.
It's going to be a problem, but only at first. After a year it won't matter, like the Wii's name.
oooh I forgot about AssCreed 3. I'll be honest if I pick this up in November, I'll be buying that :3
I can see ports of 3rd party games doing relatively well on Wii cause they might get bought by ravid Nintards that have been without COD games for 6 years.
Then again they will just buy Mario again.
WiiU has COD and Assasins Creed?
Oh wait Ill spend another 300 on a new console to play the games I can play on my PC/360/PS3 :lol
Great arguement Reggie!oooh I forgot about AssCreed 3. I'll be honest if I pick this up in November, I'll be buying that :3
SMH
It was a dumb move to call it Wii U, that name invited confusion. You have people like Fallon mistaking it for a Wii peripheral on national TV (and he actually plays games). My fiance asked about it (her kids have a Wii), and she was confused that it was a tablet peripheral. I've heard this same thing a few other times. Outside our little insular sphere, no one knows what the fuck it is, and that's not because they're "stupid" or "ignorant casuals," it's because Wii U is a dumb name, and combined with making it look almost exactly like a fucking Wii peripheral their confusion is entirely understandable. If they were gonna insist on retaining that Wii brand and look, they should have named it the SuperWii or something similar. I know that's a goofy name, but it's better than Wii U, and denotes a more powerful new console, just like the Super Nintendo did back when. People see that tablet and the name Wii U, and they assume that Wii U is what the tablet is called, and it's something you buy for the Wii like the Wii Fit. They could have saved themselves a lot of hassle and consumer confusion just by naming it something else.
Did I even remotely suggest something like that?
It's going to be a problem, but only at first. After a year it won't matter, like the Wii's name.
If you legitimately think this thing is going to ANYTHING NEAR Wii's sales, you're as stupid as we all worry you are.
Come on who plays cod on Wii :lol
There's enough people that Treyarch bothered to figure out how to patch the multiplayer.
Just fired it up. It says there's 57800 players on Blops right now. Connected to a domination game in about fifteen seconds.
EDIT: Wow, if that's accurate that's more people than are playing MW2+Blops+MW3 on PC right now.
Come on who plays cod on Wii :lol
The numbers would surprise you.
Its not accurate. If you actually add up all the people it states are playing the playlists the number is actually closer to 10000. I highly doubt 40k players are playing private matches.Ahhh yeah. Just checked again and you're right. 58500 online but only around 12000 in any of the lists. Wonder what the deal is with that.
All their series are still waiting into the wings
Where have I heard this before?
Look, Nintendo's output plus the duration of time between each one for the Wii was a problem. The games were good, but not good enough to justify the time period plus there was plenty of disappointments within like Other M. Not to mention how piss easy they were. SMG2 is really the only game that fit for what we would expect from Nintendo. I've discussed what I thought of the first Galaxy too many times to count so I won't bore you with a repost. Zelda Skyward Sword was plenty of steps ahead and yet so many steps backwards that while I loved it and I'm not exactly super excited about another Zelda cause of the steps back.
The funny thing is that games in general have been getting easier and easier, it's just that Nintendo, rather than try to hide it, seems to tie a pink ribbon around it and delicately wrap it in Christmas lights.
But I guess data shows that easier games sell better, so people like us who cut their teeth on bitch hard games are mostly out of luck outside of indies.
Other M was atrocious. Dear god what a horrible game.
I was mostly talking about how Nintendo barely released any games I really liked on the Wii.
OK I forgot about DKCR, which I loved. But NSMBW difficult? Oh fuck no. It was fun but it was a diversion for the most part.
Yeah no, Zelda games have been getting easier. Wind Waker, Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword while good, definitely were easier than each predecessor. So seeing that direction of handholding and simpler puzzles isn't hard to imagine it will keep going like that.
The funny thing is that games in general have been getting easier and easier, it's just that Nintendo, rather than try to hide it, seems to tie a pink ribbon around it and delicately wrap it in Christmas lights.
But I guess data shows that easier games sell better, so people like us who cut their teeth on bitch hard games are mostly out of luck outside of indies.
RIP real Mega Man
Yeah no, Zelda games have been getting easier. Wind Waker, Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword while good, definitely were easier than each predecessor. So seeing that direction of handholding and simpler puzzles isn't hard to imagine it will keep going like that.Twilight Princess was slightly harder than Wind Waker, and Skyward Sword seemed harder again (as far as I could be bothered playing). This is in terms of getting game over screens. In terms of puzzle-confusion-bottlenecks the games also seem to be getting harder and harder, which they tried to 'solve' by outright telling you what to do in Skyward Sword - which suggests to me that the people making Zelda games are just amateur incompetents who have no business making games at all.
I traveled every tile on that map - willingly - before the triforce hunt even began.Me too, but we're the type that wants proper gas-tank-play in Saints Row.
I traveled every tile on that map - willingly - before the triforce hunt even began.Me too, but we're the type that wants proper gas-tank-play in Saints Row.
Skyward Sword was the hardest Zelda game since the Oracle titles. Not throw your controller hard, but I lost tons of hearts and died a few times during boss battles and dungeons.
Wind Waker was easy as fucking hell.
RATINGS FOR NO GOOD REASON
MM > OoT > Oracle titles > TP > SS > WW > LA > MC > LttP > ST > Zelda 1 > Zelda 2 > PH
I traveled every tile on that map - willingly - before the triforce hunt even began.Me too, but we're the type that wants proper gas-tank-play in Saints Row.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv1v6cLvimE
NEVER FORGET
I traveled every tile on that map - willingly - before the triforce hunt even began.Me too, but we're the type that wants proper gas-tank-play in Saints Row.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv1v6cLvimE
NEVER FORGET
RIP POCKETFUDGE
Skyward Sword was the hardest Zelda game since the Oracle titles. Not throw your controller hard, but I lost tons of hearts and died a few times during boss battles and dungeons.
Wind Waker was easy as fucking hell.
RATINGS FOR NO GOOD REASON
LA> Oracle> MM> OOT> MC> LTTP> LOZ> LOZ2> WW> TP>>>>>> Poop>SS>PH> ST
Skyward Sword was the hardest Zelda game since the Oracle titles. Not throw your controller hard, but I lost tons of hearts and died a few times during boss battles and dungeons.
Wind Waker was easy as fucking hell.
RATINGS FOR NO GOOD REASON
MM > OoT > Oracle titles > TP > SS > WW > LA > MC > LttP > ST > Zelda 1 > Zelda 2 > PH
LttP so low and one sneeze away from ST? Leper this filth.
:banplz
How many of the Metroids have you played?
How many of the Metroids have you played?
Err, um, this is a trap right.
I think... uh... four. And the one I liked best, will probably get tomatoes thrown at me.
:-\
Not gonna enjoy this.
4. Metroid Prime 3
3. Super Metroid
2. Metroid Fusionspoiler (click to show/hide)1. Metroid Prime Hunters[close]
>_<
It's hard catching up on stuff you missed OK?
Err, um, this is a trap right.:lol No, I was actually just wondering since you were going to play Super Metroid through.
I think... uh... four. And the one I liked best, will probably get tomatoes thrown at me.
>_<Did you snag the Trilogy?
It's hard catching up on stuff you missed OK?
So do you think Metroid is a bad series? If Hunters is your favourite of that bunch ... yeash.
Check out Zero Mission btw.
The Hunters thing is really unforgivable however.
Did you snag the Trilogy?
Prime 3 I really enjoyed until it told me to backtrack the entire game and collect 12 or whatever McGuffins. Until that point I was blasting through it and probably would have beaten it within a week of playing. I dropped it like it was hot at that point. :wag
Super Metroid I think I'm lost in. I guess that's the appeal of the series. ???
Had Prime 3 and had yet to beat it, figured what's the point? And I heard the backtracking was even more tedious in the first two games.Yeah, Metroid might not be your series. :lol
12GB? Are you fucking serious? That's like 2 game installs. You can't even install games on external HDDs for the PS3!
12GB? Are you fucking serious? That's like 2 game installs. You can't even install games on external HDDs for the PS3!
Yep, that's my bet too. The other alternative is a firmware patch that allows game installs to external HDDs. It will be interesting to see if Sony can get it out in time to undercut the Wii U launch.12GB? Are you fucking serious? That's like 2 game installs. You can't even install games on external HDDs for the PS3!
i'd bet anything there will be an hdd slot to add your own
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Link's Awakening is overrated, play LttP instead.co-sign!
LttP has aged so poorly, blugh. LA is better.
Did you play Links Awakening Andrex?
It just seems so strange to me you can be a Nintendo fanboy without playing their best games.
LttP has aged so poorly, blugh. LA is better.
Did you play Links Awakening Andrex?
It just seems so strange to me you can be a Nintendo fanboy without playing their best games.
They have so many best games, make it hard. :(
Did you play Links Awakening Andrex?
It just seems so strange to me you can be a Nintendo fanboy without playing their best games.
They have so many best games, make it hard. :(
Well it's not like you had to worry about playing the greats from any other system
Did you play Links Awakening Andrex?
It just seems so strange to me you can be a Nintendo fanboy without playing their best games.
They have so many best games, make it hard. :(
Well it's not like you had to worry about playing the greats from any other system
Did you play Links Awakening Andrex?
It just seems so strange to me you can be a Nintendo fanboy without playing their best games.
They have so many best games, make it hard. :(
Well it's not like you had to worry about playing the greats from any other system
- In the single player mode a good portion of the game will be played as Murfy. Rayman will be AI controlled and Murfy (the player) is his protector
- There will still be some "classic" levels where you can play as Rayman in single player
I feel bad for future gamers born today. There is absolutely no way they'll be able to play all of gaming's "staples" unless they set out to do it and have no life for ~5 years straight.
You missed his point completely, you stupid cunt.I feel bad for future gamers born today. There is absolutely no way they'll be able to play all of gaming's "staples" unless they set out to do it and have no life for ~5 years straight.
Yes, I too feel bad for children who can choose, through both legal and illegal emulation, to play the best games of the last seven or eight generations. Why couldn't they have been children of the eighties, restricted to playing a few games (often a crap-shoot) on expensive cartridges for technologically inferior systems.
You missed his point completely, you stupid cunt.I feel bad for future gamers born today. There is absolutely no way they'll be able to play all of gaming's "staples" unless they set out to do it and have no life for ~5 years straight.
Yes, I too feel bad for children who can choose, through both legal and illegal emulation, to play the best games of the last seven or eight generations. Why couldn't they have been children of the eighties, restricted to playing a few games (often a crap-shoot) on expensive cartridges for technologically inferior systems.
Calm down, jeeze :lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYlEgwLNipI
- World map shown
- New level shown
- In the single player mode a good portion of the game will be played as Murfy. Rayman will be AI controlled and Murfy (the player) is his protector
- There will still be some "classic" levels where you can play as Rayman in single player
Stolen from GAFQuotehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYlEgwLNipI
- World map shown
- New level shown
- In the single player mode a good portion of the game will be played as Murfy. Rayman will be AI controlled and Murfy (the player) is his protector
- There will still be some "classic" levels where you can play as Rayman in single player
Huh what ???
So a "good portion" (50% or more apparently from the vid) of the game doesn't let you have manual control of rayman while playing alone?
nuke this thread from orbit
Stolen from GAFQuotehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYlEgwLNipI
- World map shown
- New level shown
- In the single player mode a good portion of the game will be played as Murfy. Rayman will be AI controlled and Murfy (the player) is his protector
- There will still be some "classic" levels where you can play as Rayman in single player
Huh what ???
So a "good portion" (50% or more apparently from the vid) of the game doesn't let you have manual control of rayman while playing alone?
Zero Mission is fucking awesome. Wonderful game to run through in a day. So fast-paced.
For me:
M2 > SM > ZM > MF > MP > M1 > MP2 > MP3 > MPinball > Hunters > Polish Aids > OtherM
LttP has aged so poorly, blugh. LA is better.
LA has aged like wine.
Can I just say it? Ancel blows.
Denies ripping off NSMBW with the bubble mechanic in Origins.
Rips off HarmoKnight with gimmicky out of place music levels.
Forces singe player to be played with a touch screen in a goddamn precision platformer.
I have no idea why people have put him on a pedestal as one of gaming's "great" game designers. His games get off on the Euro version of whimsy ("charm") more than anything these days. "OH WOW RAYMAN ORIGINS SUCH PRETTY GRAPHICS. Look how babby and stupid NSMBW looks!"
but have they seen the wizard
Andrex do you really think he stole anything from HarmoKinghts? Wasn't that game revealed like 3 weeks ago? Ubisoft ain't got 4000 people working on Rayman, no way they get that done in time to be a copy.
I'd just move to other threads, spreading like a cancer and getting all the threads killed until there is nothing left.
Andrex do you really think he stole anything from HarmoKinghts? Wasn't that game revealed like 3 weeks ago? Ubisoft ain't got 4000 people working on Rayman, no way they get that done in time to be a copy.
Lol I figured I'd just throw that in there for good measure. Obviously there are other, previous running platformer with musical elements Ancel ripped off.
Yeah, I don't feel sorry they have a ton of content to discover anytime they choose (as I do, as I still have yet to play some Nintendo classics myself), but more that amount of time they need to invest in order to "cover their bases" and not be ridiculed for "missing" something someone considers a staple for you to consider yourself a gamer. "OMG you never played the original Halo or Mario?? You're not a gamer!"
I'd just move to other threads, spreading like a cancer and getting all the threads killed until there is nothing left.
So what you're saying is that you're like The Nothing from Neverending Story?
I'd just move to other threads, spreading like a cancer and getting all the threads killed until there is nothing left.
So what you're saying is that you're like The Nothing from Neverending Story?
Never watched TNS, seemed cheesy and boring.
I don't think LA has aged poorly, but if you think smaller-scale dungeons you can beat in five mnutes without MUCH effort, and really bad backtrack pre-dungeon quests are better than what LttP has to offer in the way of exploration, puzzle solving, questing, sequence breaking, general open-endedness, and boss fights then...fine! It's cute that you think superficial things like location and story and crappy quests to give a banana to a monkey are more important in a ZELDA GAME but don't try to convince people with taste that LttP has aged poorly in any way. Oh hey, I can equip a jump ability on Link in this game! Must mean it's better than LttP!
I don't think LA has aged poorly, but if you think smaller-scale dungeons you can beat in five mnutes without MUCH effort, and really bad backtrack pre-dungeon quests are better than what LttP has to offer in the way of exploration, puzzle solving, questing, sequence breaking, general open-endedness, and boss fights then...fine! It's cute that you think superficial things like location and story and crappy quests to give a banana to a monkey are more important in a ZELDA GAME but don't try to convince people with taste that LttP has aged poorly in any way. Oh hey, I can equip a jump ability on Link in this game! Must mean it's better than LttP!
Because Links awakening can actually be challenging, and LTTP is casual tier.
:lol acting like any zelda after the nes was a challenge
I don't think LA has aged poorly, but if you think smaller-scale dungeons you can beat in five mnutes without MUCH effort, and really bad backtrack pre-dungeon quests are better than what LttP has to offer in the way of exploration, puzzle solving, questing, sequence breaking, general open-endedness, and boss fights then...fine! It's cute that you think superficial things like location and story and crappy quests to give a banana to a monkey are more important in a ZELDA GAME but don't try to convince people with taste that LttP has aged poorly in any way. Oh hey, I can equip a jump ability on Link in this game! Must mean it's better than LttP!
I don't think LA has aged poorly, but if you think smaller-scale dungeons you can beat in five mnutes without MUCH effort, and really bad backtrack pre-dungeon quests are better than what LttP has to offer in the way of exploration, puzzle solving, questing, sequence breaking, general open-endedness, and boss fights then...fine! It's cute that you think superficial things like location and story and crappy quests to give a banana to a monkey are more important in a ZELDA GAME but don't try to convince people with taste that LttP has aged poorly in any way. Oh hey, I can equip a jump ability on Link in this game! Must mean it's better than LttP!
:lol acting like any zelda after the nes was a challenge
The first boss can kill you with two hits, in any other zeldas (not counting the NES ones of course) they are all easy as fuck only taking like a quarter heart thus casual tier. If I can single out why I consider LA better than any Zelda is because it doesn't take place in fucking Hyrule, no Zelda, no Ganon, and is not the fifthieth retread of the LTTP formula another reason MM is my #2. I liked LTTP at the time but the retreads burned me out on it, I base my opinion on what is playable to me now not nostalgia LTTP is not IMO I need a sleeping bag on standy any time I attempt to do a playthrough.I don't think LA has aged poorly, but if you think smaller-scale dungeons you can beat in five mnutes without MUCH effort, and really bad backtrack pre-dungeon quests are better than what LttP has to offer in the way of exploration, puzzle solving, questing, sequence breaking, general open-endedness, and boss fights then...fine! It's cute that you think superficial things like location and story and crappy quests to give a banana to a monkey are more important in a ZELDA GAME but don't try to convince people with taste that LttP has aged poorly in any way. Oh hey, I can equip a jump ability on Link in this game! Must mean it's better than LttP!
Do ho ho how did I miss this...
You like Shenmue and actually think it's a game, opinion/taste invalidated.
:lol acting like any zelda after the nes was a challenge
The first boss can kill you with two hits, in any other zeldas (not counting the NES ones of course) they are all easy as fuck only taking like a quarter heart thus casual tier. If I can single out why I consider LA better than any Zelda is because it doesn't take place in fucking Hyrule, no Zelda, no Ganon, and is not the fifthieth retread of the LTTP formula another reason MM is my #2. I liked LTTP at the time but the retreads burned me out on it, I base my opinion on what is playable to me now not nostalgia LTTP is not IMO I need a sleeping bag on standy any time I attempt to do a playthrough.I don't think LA has aged poorly, but if you think smaller-scale dungeons you can beat in five mnutes without MUCH effort, and really bad backtrack pre-dungeon quests are better than what LttP has to offer in the way of exploration, puzzle solving, questing, sequence breaking, general open-endedness, and boss fights then...fine! It's cute that you think superficial things like location and story and crappy quests to give a banana to a monkey are more important in a ZELDA GAME but don't try to convince people with taste that LttP has aged poorly in any way. Oh hey, I can equip a jump ability on Link in this game! Must mean it's better than LttP!
Do ho ho how did I miss this...
You like Shenmue and actually think it's a game, opinion/taste invalidated.
Shenmue is a non gaming excecise in distinguished mentally-challenged futility. It would be your typical Adam Sandler joint as it were, in which he plays an emotionaly stunted individual aka distinguished mentally-challenged fellow. Everything great about Shenmue is about as fun as watching any formualic entry in the manchild subgenre. I wouldn't expect you who partakes in actual games to understand.
the only reason you fegalors like la is because YOUR WAIFU MARIN and because it *is* incomprehensibly easy
ANYWAY! i had my wii u experience :teehee
i am indeed :teehee
i used the pro controller. games control just like 360/ps3 games, except i have move my fuckin' right thumb DOWN and that's unnatural -- and not unnatural in a sexy way like brandnew and his sis <3
i'll save the detailed impressions, but the graphics are VERY 2006-2007 across the board. assassin's creed 3 was probably the best looking by an order of magnitude, and it had frame rate issues relative to what i recall of the 360 version :teehee
blue dragon still looks better than anything i saw at the the WII U EXPERIENCE
blue dragon still looks better than anything i saw at the the WII U EXPERIENCE
What happened with Blue Dragon after the 360 release is downright criminal. BD is my favorite JRPG of this generation.
Spirit Tracks - literally no one in the universe has said this was good, so i actually feel that it's the only installment in the series that is actually rated appropriately by everyone.
The series on the whole is no stranger to being overrated.
Zelda 1 - not generally well spoken of these days, but aimless and expects you to do idiotic things like burn every bush and tree on every screen, most of the time with a candle that can only be used once on a screen before you have to leave and come back again
Zelda 2 - pretty much an awful NES game, with all the negative connotations that being a NES game carries. shitty collision, grindy, aimless, with AI that all too often forces you to find cheap sploits or die.
Zelda 3 - about as hard as a fresh marshmallow, introduced the item the series would coast on for the rest of its existence (hookshot), puzzles that wouldn't stump your grandmother, and a laughable gasp at narrative from people who would have trouble scripting a teletubbies episode
Link's Awakening - introduces the stupid fetch quest to the series, design severely hampered by the technical and input limitations of the hardware, some of the idiotic repetition from Zelda 1 rears its ugly head here with some dungeons requiring you to bang on nearly every wall with your sword, and bosses that leaned harder on the concept of Gimmick Bosses than any prior Zelda, a plague which would infect the rest of the series, and another very embarrassing attempt at a narrative, this time with some of that oh-ho-ho so funny nintendo wacky "humour" heaped on top. ha ha, this character is so odd! isn't that funny?
Ocarina of Time - well this is the mother of all overrated games, isn't it? ponderous, boring, ugly, and introduces the whole COLLECT ALL THESE DOODADS to the series in the form of the skulltulas. introduces the moronic music playing that has plagued the series in every subsequent installment. some of the stupidest side "characters" the series had seen to date in form of the mentally handicapped gorons, the cockgobbling zoras, and the literal manchild kokori, who clearly resonated with fans for all the obvious reasons. another even more embarrassing attempt at a narrative. but wow link has a pony, girls probably love that shit.
Oracle series - interesting romhacks of link's awakening, made by people that even capcom didn't want around. many great ideas for a game were had, more than any single zelda game before, which naturally could not be allowed, so the single game's worth of good ideas were divided across two games, with styrofoam and the mulched remains of unsold virtual boys used to pad out the rest.
Majora's Mask - christ this one is overrated as all hell. it has all the problems of ocarina, but as an added bonus you can't really save whenever you want, which is so useful for an adult, and piles on the ocd shit like a bunch of masks that don't do shit, and a little scrapbook to mark all of your bffs in as you help them out. probably the most repetition of any zelda game. manages to make time travel more boring and annoying than the film the time traveler's wife.
Minish Cap - generally not overrated, and with good reason. there's a good game in here somewhere, but like capcom's prior efforts, you have to find it by digging around shit nobody with any sense would include in a game.
Wind Waker - what a piece of crap this is. they finally overhaul the battle system to be a little less braindead, and that's GOOD. they use a unique visual style that generally doesn't look ugly, and that's GOOD. END LIST OF GOOD THINGS. they also added shitty stealth, more ocd crap than ever (take pictures of EVERYONE, let's chart the WHOLE OCEAN, no sorry that's not optional, even though it seems like it for most of the game!), created a fucking boring world map that is mostly just water, wowwww maybe there are some chests under here, better check EVERYWHERE like a good little aspie, made it all piss-easy, and on top of that, didn't even have the audacity to finish making the fucking game, which means that unless you suffer from an axis 2 mental disorder means this is as light on content as zelda's been in a while.
Twilight Princess - a cruel creatively bereft remake of Ocarina, where the good stuff and the bad stuff are separated like milk curdling on top of cola, with all the good stuff parked firmly behind several hours of bad stuff. idiotically useless dungeon items that require senselessly specific boss weaknesses. crappy wolf shit added for whatever reason, no one knows. nurtures the inner pedo in every zelda fan via little naked imp WHO ACTUALLY IS A SEXY ADULT LADY OK SO IT'S ALRIGHT IF I DRAW HER AND LINK FUCKING.
Phantom Hourglass - thankfully no one overrates this. ugly, stupid, uses bizarre controls just for the sake of being bizarre. silly gimmick puzzles. how clever, i have to yell into my ds, that's definitely something i can do in public. oh now to copy the map i have to close the ds? you cheeky fellows! don't even get me started on that stupid temple. surprises me more majora fans don't love that temple, it's basically majora's mask in one dungeon. the only thing i'll give this game is that sea travel is less boring here than it was in windwaker, which is like saying watching the tv channel listings is a bit less boring than watching cspan.
Spirit Tracks - literally no one in the universe has said this was good, so i actually feel that it's the only installment in the series that is actually rated appropriately by everyone.
The series on the whole is no stranger to being overrated.
Zelda 2 - pretty much an awful NES game, with all the negative connotations that being a NES game carries. shitty collision, grindy, aimless, with AI that all too often forces you to find cheap sploits or die.
Majora's Mask - christ this one is overrated as all hell. it has all the problems of ocarina, but as an added bonus you can't really save whenever you want, which is so useful for an adult, and piles on the ocd shit like a bunch of masks that don't do shit, and a little scrapbook to mark all of your bffs in as you help them out. probably the most repetition of any zelda game. manages to make time travel more boring and annoying than the film the time traveler's wife.
Yeah, I meant the problems I had listed with Ocarina, not the problems you imagined I listed like how you seem to imagine I was calling Zelda 2 crappy for being difficult. Majora is ponderous, ugly, and boring, with a shitty story, stupid music playing bullshit, and idiotic collectathon stuff. It's an interesting experiment, I guess.
Zelda 2 blows, though. Your nostalgia is blinding you HARD on that one. Real talk, if Zelda 2 weren't a Zelda game, it would be held in the same regard as 8-eye's.
I played a shitload of Zelda 2 growing up. My parents gave me the wrong Zelda and I only received one NES game per year. It was Zelda 2 or nothing. I can't even imagine playing it now even for a minor nostalgic trip.
French uguu is no real uguu.
*zelda*
Spirit Tracks - literally no one in the universe has said this was good, so i actually feel that it's the only installment in the series that is actually rated appropriately by everyone.
you forgot to rate the CD-I games
like skyward sword, they are not included because i haven't played them.
I'll grant this much: Zelda 2 is not presently overrated. Everyone fucking hates the game. They hate the game because it's fucking terrible. So I guess you can put it in the same group as Spirit Tracks, in that the general consensus is pretty much spot on.
Yeah, I meant the problems I had listed with Ocarina, not the problems you imagined I listed like how you seem to imagine I was calling Zelda 2 crappy for being difficult. Majora is ponderous, ugly, and boring, with a shitty story, stupid music playing bullshit, and idiotic collectathon stuff. It's an interesting experiment, I guess.
Zelda 2 blows, though. Your nostalgia is blinding you HARD on that one. Real talk, if Zelda 2 weren't a Zelda game, it would be held in the same regard as 8-eye's.
I didnt buy it because it was a zelda a game, i bought it becasue ti was an RPG. Also you said grinding which means it was hard withotu it. Whichis not true. Zelda 2 was a very easy game.
Castlevania 2 was my first Castlevania, hence why I made the connection.
Spirit Tracks - literally no one in the universe has said this was good, so i actually feel that it's the only installment in the series that is actually rated appropriately by everyone.
EmCeeGrammer :teehee
He's talking about emcee at gaf.
Spirit Tracks - literally no one in the universe has said this was good, so i actually feel that it's the only installment in the series that is actually rated appropriately by everyone.
EmCeeGrammer :teehee
I've never played it asshat. In general I can tell if I'll like something by looking at it and usually avoid. I avoided twilight princess for like 4 years and when I finally played it, yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup, poop.
Emcee on GAF is crushed.He's talking about emcee at gaf.
They're not the same one? :omg
Spirit Tracks - literally no one in the universe has said this was good, so i actually feel that it's the only installment in the series that is actually rated appropriately by everyone.
EmCeeGrammer :teehee
I've never played it asshat. In general I can tell if I'll like something by looking at it and usually avoid. I avoided twilight princess for like 4 years and when I finally played it, yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup, poop.
You have worse taste than EmCee on GAF.
Emcee on GAF is going to be disappointed that I posted this.
zelda 2 sucks. played the game when I was 5-6 years old after beating zelda 1, and it pissed me off because I thought it was Castlevania and not Zelda. I was mad because they made it "that Castle game". Piece of shit game. Let's keep blocking blows and doing jump stabs over and over and over. Let's travel across the world if you die in a dungeon instead of just respawning you in the dungeon you died in!
Crap, crap game. Worst Zelda by a wide margin.
Objectively speaking, what's the best Zelda then? Yes, I am waiting for you to say the first one so I can point out all of the annoying dumb shit it has you do, which were all design choices.
Objectively speaking, what's the best Zelda then? Yes, I am waiting for you to say the first one so I can point out all of the annoying dumb shit it has you do, which were all design choices.
I never said I didn't like Zelda. I said I wasn't a diehard fan, and I'm not. I've never been able to replay Ocarina, I dislike Majora's Mask and Windwaker quite a bit. In fact, I think Phantom Hourglass is "10x better" than both of those.
What is giving me pause here is that it seems to be short on dungeons (one of my bigger problems with Windwaker), it makes you repeat those dungeons (one of my bigger problems with Majora's), it has stealth (I hate stealth), and of course, the motion controls (I hate motion controls, except for IR pointing, which hey, this lacks).
I've just got a bad feeling here, is all, Chewie.
Oscar, Majora's is only overrated on the internet and even then, the fanbase is split on the game. So I'd say it's accurately rated.
Bullshit. Here's how the tree of "Best Zelda?" tends to go: if usual Zeldatard "Ocarina of Time!", if retro Zeldatard "Link to the Past!", if subversive Zeldatard "Majora's Mask!", if subversive retro Zeldatard "Link's Awakening!"
'trite'? Are you just slopping random adjectives all over your posts?
What difference would it make?'trite'? Are you just slopping random adjectives all over your posts?
You caught me. Fuck. Now I have to put my dick in a blender, right?
You're cheating by picking two. I'd pick Twilight because the graphics don't look like shit and the interface has fewer issues. That, and if you haven't ever touched a Zelda before, maybe the stupid tutorial won't suck so much.
I suppose Ocarina remake would be an option, too, but it's still kinda ugly overall.
If they excised the waggle to swing your sword, I'd be with you, but waggling for a sword strike does nothing but make swordplay less precise. It was a complete pain in the ass in the "oh hay remember this kind of boss fight from lttp that we do in every game? it's back!" energy ball tennis match at the end of the game. That one negative erases the positives in my books.
best Zelda is Wind Waker, end of storyIf they'd actually finished it and the triforce fetch quest wasn't there I'd have your back on this one but as it stands, eeeeh. In the upper tier all the same. :-*
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Shield bash with wiimote didn't fucking work yeah.
You're one of those people that made a 'no seriously the SS controls work fine you guys' youtube videos aren't you >:(Shield bash with wiimote didn't fucking work yeah.
Worked fine for me. :smug
You should try Alundra. It's one of my favorite Zelda games.
It just occurred to me. Oscar, you haven't commented on Skyward Sword! :punch
Yeah, I've got Skyward Sword sitting here in front of me, but my console time of late is very limited and it's probably about 50th on my list of stuff I want to play, so, can't really say anything about it now. That I've been sitting on a Zelda game for almost a year without wanting to play it probably says *something*, I suppose.
Yeah, I've got Skyward Sword sitting here in front of me, but my console time of late is very limited and it's probably about 50th on my list of stuff I want to play, so, can't really say anything about it now. That I've been sitting on a Zelda game for almost a year without wanting to play it probably says *something*, I suppose.
If you've slogged your way through all the Zelda games, Okami can't be that bad.
God Himu I don't think I've ever disagreed with somebody so hard. Okami's great fun and fuckin beautiful too. How can a Shenmue fan dislike something for being tedious anyway?If you've slogged your way through all the Zelda games, Okami can't be that bad.
You know how at the beginning of Twilight Princess you have to go through this menial tutorial crap?
Okami is like that.
But for the entire game.
So...nope, nope, nope.
Truth be told, there aren't that many good Zelda clones. Alundra is the only one I can suggest with a straight face.
Keep in mind, Okami doesn't really have true Zelda-like dungeons with lots of puzzle solving. In the first 20 hours you may encounter only 2 "dungeons".
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Tekken producer on Wii U online: 'I don't understand it'
One unanswered question has been lingering in the air since Nintendo’s big coming out party for the Wii U last week: How will the online infrastructure be an improvement over past Nintendo consoles (if at all)? Developers must know, right? Well, apparently not.
Tekken Tag Tournament 2 director Katsuhiro Harada didn’t sound like he had confidence in Nintendo’s new online system, during a roundtable interview at Namco Bandai HQ. When asked about how the Wii U's online infrastructure will compare to that offered on 360/PS3, Harada responded:
"Not quite sure at this point. I don't fully understand it. We’re still working with Nintendo to find out about their network."
With a US release of November 18, it's hard to believe this response. Harada emphasized that the netcode will be as solid as those of competing systems, but it's still a mystery how players will connect and play online. He also wouldn't confirm whether the Wii U exclusive modes will be playable online.
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Tekken producer on Wii U online: 'I don't understand it'
One unanswered question has been lingering in the air since Nintendo’s big coming out party for the Wii U last week: How will the online infrastructure be an improvement over past Nintendo consoles (if at all)? Developers must know, right? Well, apparently not.
Tekken Tag Tournament 2 director Katsuhiro Harada didn’t sound like he had confidence in Nintendo’s new online system, during a roundtable interview at Namco Bandai HQ. When asked about how the Wii U's online infrastructure will compare to that offered on 360/PS3, Harada responded:
"Not quite sure at this point. I don't fully understand it. We’re still working with Nintendo to find out about their network."
With a US release of November 18, it's hard to believe this response. Harada emphasized that the netcode will be as solid as those of competing systems, but it's still a mystery how players will connect and play online. He also wouldn't confirm whether the Wii U exclusive modes will be playable online.
http://www.destructoid.com/tekken-producer-on-wii-u-online-i-don-t-understand-it--235263.phtml
:lol
Think I'm gonna preorder a WiiU today. Seems like this is where most of the big Japanese games are going next gen.
Think I'm gonna preorder a WiiU today. Seems like this is where most of the big Japanese games are going next gen.
Let us play glorious Monster Hunter, together. :)
Let us play glorious Monster Hunter, together. :)
And by that I assume you mean leave Facebook-like messages in each other's worlds... possibly with some time delay for approval?
Let us play glorious Monster Hunter, together. :)
And by that I assume you mean leave Facebook-like messages in each other's worlds... possibly with some time delay for approval?
I'd bet nude pics of dcharlie that Ultimate has voice chat and in-game text chat.
I'd bet nude pics of dcharlie that Ultimate has voice chat and in-game text chat.
I'd bet nude pics of dcharlie that Ultimate has voice chat and in-game text chat.
Was that what he sent you for your birthday?
Think I'm gonna preorder a WiiU today. Seems like this is where most of the big Japanese games are going next gen.
:lol
Based on?
I don't think it's any secret that Nintendo want the wii U to be "Facebook : the games console" - except it's not going to be facebook, it's going to be WhimsyBook or something similar.
Yep, I see Nintendo making a good play at drawing away the core crowd from Sony and those low specs will make for an easy transition for devs.
Yep, I see Nintendo making a good play at drawing away the core crowd from Sony and those low specs will make for an easy transition for devs.
Not to mention Sony is still in that self-sabotaging mentality. The recent PS3 revision and how they're handling the Vita...I think they've been fucking things up for so long that it might be difficult to snap out of it for the PS4.
Think I'm gonna preorder a WiiU today. Seems like this is where most of the big Japanese games are going next gen.
Let us play glorious Monster Hunter, together. :)
Think I'm gonna preorder a WiiU today. Seems like this is where most of the big Japanese games are going next gen.
Let us play glorious Monster Hunter, together. :)
I'm actually not much of a Monhan fan believe it or not... but I will still be your friend Andrex :-*
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No one knows what that means Andy.
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Fixed.
The playable version of the game on the Tokyo Game Show floor is not up to the performance levels of past Dynasty Warriors games in terms of frame rate and number of enemies on screen, and is shown up considerably by Dynasty Warriors 7 Empires, the PS3 exclusive also playable on publisher Tecmo Koei's stand.
Akihiro Suzuki, producer of the Dynasty Warriors franchise, admitted this was the case when quizzed by Eurogamer, and pointed to the Wii U's CPU by way of explanation.
"One of the weaknesses of the Wii U compared to PS3 and Xbox 360 is the CPU power is a little bit less," he said. "So for games in the Warriors series, including Dynasty Warriors and Warriors Orochi, when you have a lot of enemies coming at you at once, the performance tends to be affected because of the CPU.
"Dealing with that is a challenge."
The exact specifications of the CPU, including clock speed, remain undisclosed for now, but developers, including those Eurogamer spoke to for an investigation into the power of the Wii U, have confirmed it's slower than the CPU inside both the PS3 and Xbox 360.
xbox 324, deal with it :miyamoto
Now the questions is how much stronger the GPU is in the WiiU and how can devs re-enginner games to take advantage of it. Makes sense now. I guess this si the price of backwards compatibility.
I doubt it since they seem to be forcing it into everything they can.feggits
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wouldn't be surprised if this ends up like google wave :lol
For some reason Nintendo always seems to have at least one thing in their systems that's going to annoy if not keep away developers. I assume the CPU will be good enough for ports from the 360, but if you really want to encourage developers to do them why put so easily avoidable stones in their paths?
xbox 324, deal with it :miyamoto
Xbox 316 says I just dropped your frame rate
For some reason Nintendo always seems to have at least one thing in their systems that's going to annoy if not keep away developers. I assume the CPU will be good enough for ports from the 360, but if you really want to encourage developers to do them why put so easily avoidable stones in their paths?
I may be a moron, but I also like MonHun now. The two may or may not be related, but there ya go.
Actually if MH still wasn't on Nintendo I would probably just ignore it (like before Tri), unless it started to bomb for some reason.
Bolded for emphasis.
I may be a moron, but I also like MonHun now. The two may or may not be related, but there ya go.
Actually if MH still wasn't on Nintendo I would probably just ignore it (like before Tri), unless it started to bomb for some reason.
Bolded for emphasis.
What are you implying?
Sounds like a wiinner!
I may be a moron, but I also like MonHun now. The two may or may not be related, but there ya go.
Actually if MH still wasn't on Nintendo I would probably just ignore it (like before Tri), unless it started to bomb for some reason.
Bolded for emphasis.
What are you implying?
That you like Monster Hunter games only because they're on Nintendo systems. This isn't fucking rocket science, kid. Just own up to being a console warrior fucktard.
So to recap:
-The largest amount of HDD space available is 32GB.
-Japanese developers "don't understand" how the Nintendo network service works and there may be major issues with online gaming.
-The Wii U CPU is slower than the almost six year old PS3 and almost seven year old 360.
-There are no 1080P games.
-The biggest title for the system is a port of a 3DS game.
Sounds like a winner!
Aren't you also really big into Bayonetta now?
Andrex, the next question will be which Platinum games you have played. I suspect your answer will be slightly dodgy and the wolves will descend upon your wounded corpse
I may be a moron, but I also like MonHun now. The two may or may not be related, but there ya go.
Actually if MH still wasn't on Nintendo I would probably just ignore it (like before Tri), unless it started to bomb for some reason.
Bolded for emphasis.
What are you implying?
That you like Monster Hunter games only because they're on Nintendo systems. This isn't fucking rocket science, kid. Just own up to being a console warrior fucktard.
Well duh, that's what I said. Have you been ignoring my posts on this page? ::)
Edit- Actually to clarify, I checked them out because they came to Nintendo systems. I don't like them for that reason; if I did, I probably would have never bought Tri based on the demo. I genuinely like the game itself.
If you weren't a console warrior, you'd buy a PS2 and play Kingdom Hearts instead of port begging for a WiiU version of KH 1.5 HD Remix.
I may be a moron, but I also like MonHun now. The two may or may not be related, but there ya go.
Actually if MH still wasn't on Nintendo I would probably just ignore it (like before Tri), unless it started to bomb for some reason.
Bolded for emphasis.
What are you implying?
That you like Monster Hunter games only because they're on Nintendo systems. This isn't fucking rocket science, kid. Just own up to being a console warrior fucktard.
Well duh, that's what I said. Have you been ignoring my posts on this page? ::)
Edit- Actually to clarify, I checked them out because they came to Nintendo systems. I don't like them for that reason; if I did, I probably would have never bought Tri based on the demo. I genuinely like the game itself.
If you weren't a console warrior, you'd buy a PS2 and play Kingdom Hearts instead of port begging for a WiiU version of KH 1.5 HD Remix.
Nintendo managed to mimic 360 pretty well,if we go by the public data.
They have one big problem though--expensive touch screen controller.It may turn out to be something totally pointless(like 3D in 3DS--not system seller) or hot new must have thing--time will tell.
One thing is for sure,it will forever balloon WiiU price.
Cheap,reliable,profitable might be a problem if the market says meh...
Aren't you also really big into Bayonetta now?
Into Bayonetta itself? Nope. But I'm a Platinum fan, and have been since they formed.
Andrex, the next question will be which Platinum games you have played. I suspect your answer will be slightly dodgy and the wolves will descend upon your wounded corpse
Aren't you also really big into Bayonetta now?
Into Bayonetta itself? Nope. But I'm a Platinum fan, and have been since they formed.Andrex, the next question will be which Platinum games you have played. I suspect your answer will be slightly dodgy and the wolves will descend upon your wounded corpse
Seriously...hasn't Andrex never owned a PS3 and 360? Mad World on Wii really ain't that great due to the controls. Thankfully Anarchy Reigns is 1000 times better.
I wouldn't mind being into some Bayonetta cosplayer:
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"Owned" is a strong word...
I love MadWorld, but lets be honest here Andrex. Did you ever actually try out, want to play or even cared about Bayonetta before 2 became Wii U exclusive.
I've never even see you mention the game until that announcement.
I agree. Despite all the ribbing and the fact we all have preferences or lack of preferences, none of us here are really console warriors. About every person in this thread has owned a ps3, 360, AND a wii. The Bore is the wrong place to take console warrior stuff, Andy. That's for gaf.
Toughen up! How often do you think I have to deal with a Shenmue hate fest?!
I actually didn't like MadWorld and was sort of sad that Kamiya's game went to the other platforms. I have fond memories of the original DMC at my friends house, although I don't think we ever beat it.
I was also hyped as hell for Vanquish. Mikami became one of my favorite devs after RE4.
After RE4, eh?
-There are no 1080P games.
So... did we actually get a list of what Platinum games Andrex has actually played?
Who had played Platinum's games before MadWorld and Bayonetta? No one. Yet people were still hyped for those.
So... did we actually get a list of what Platinum games Andrex has actually played?
Does it matter? No.
QuoteWho had played Platinum's games before MadWorld and Bayonetta? No one. Yet people were still hyped for those.
case in point - Madworld was awful. Meaning that hype can be vastly misplaced if you don't bother to actually play the games.
So - you're hype for Bayonetta 2 is based on hype for the vids you saw of it back in 2010?
(yes, of course it matters)
Same as the first game.
so you were hyped for Bayonetta (but didn't play it) , so hyped for Vanquish it would have been a top 5 game of yours (but didn't play it)
why not buy a cheap X360 and find out how they are -first- before spunking $300+ on a Wii U whilst you wait XX months for Bayonetta 2?
Did you bother playing MadWorld?
Because by getting a Wii U I can play two brand-new Platinum games, as well as new Nintendo games
I beat MadWorld.
i think it would be pretty disingenuous to say andrex is the only person around here who spins for consoles/companies he likes
No, I really am a fan of Monster Hunter. It spits in the face of the kinds of games I hate seeing infect the industry and has genuinely fun, addictive arcade-like gameplay.
How many fans of old-school FF around here dropped the thirty bucks for Dimensions, I wonder?
Liking a company is pointless, liking games is the only thing that matters.
How many fans of old-school FF around here dropped the thirty bucks for Dimensions, I wonder?
Simple question, then, Andy: If Monster Hunter Tri had been the only MH game to grace Nintendo platforms, would you have followed the series to a non-Nintendo platform? Because if not, I find your claim a bit dubious.
If you're all "fuck yeah, FF4/5/6 are fucking metal as fuck", and you haven't bought Dimensions, the last question to ask would be "Would you have bought Dimensions if it showed up on 3DS/XBLA/Vita/ PSN/WiiWare/Steam?".
Simple question, then, Andy: If Monster Hunter Tri had been the only MH game to grace Nintendo platforms, would you have followed the series to a non-Nintendo platform? Because if not, I find your claim a bit dubious.
I haven't followed any games I'm a fan of if they've gone to other consoles. MH wouldn't be special in that regard but it is one of my favorite games, currently.
Right dcharlie, but that's not what I said, is it? And even then, I don't know if that's true. I've seen some people here dodge games in series and/or from companies they like simply because they were on handhelds or smartphones.
How many fans of old-school FF around here dropped the thirty bucks for Dimensions, I wonder? How many people who loved Dragon Quest 8 passed on Dragon Quest 9?
Like I said, Andy is more obvious than most, but Himu's claim up above that no one else around here is like that is poop. There are lots of people around here like that, they're just less honest with themselves about it.
edit: and yeah, I'd say Creepy is on the button here. He's not an actual fan of Platinum, or Monster Hunter, really. He's a fan of Nintendo and happens to enjoy those games when/if they occur on the hardware of the company he shills for. It's going to be interesting how many Bayonetta "fans" put their money where their mouth is and buy a WiiU to play Bayo 2. I'd argue quite a few of them will prove to be no different than Andy.
Nintards have a long established history of only playing third party titles that are exclusive to Nintendo machines. What Andrex is saying isn't new or surprising at all.
So - ultimately - you admire/like/would enjoy other games on other consoles, but you're not interested in owning a machine that runs them + Nintendo titles. Right?
(i don't think that's particularly controversial, but just... odd given the type of games you seem to like seem to be the type that would appear outside Nintendo (at least until the Wii U))
What type of games do you think I like?
For these reasons, I'm single-console only
well... in this thread you clearly love Bayonetta and Vanquish (which would be one of your top 5 games), throw in Monster Hunter and...
well... action games?
But i'll be honest ; i think you tailor what you like to Nintendo. *shrug*
no - you are single-NINTENDO console only - all your explaination all conveniently bring up timing problems or whatever that just happens to bring you to Nintendo. You didn't buy a ps2 because of the HD era about to start.... and then bought a Wii #baffletonUnited.
And again - you don't play games, no time, no balance, you've waited in the past for price drops you probably never cared about, but day 1 on Wii U. There's no point playing the "bu bu Platimum games ? big fan" when you've played the one Nintendo game - it just looks weird.
Of course, this whole explanation rests on the premise that Andrex loves Nintendo's games so much that they are by far his first priority when choosing a console, and the premise alone kind of entails admitting he is ghey for teh Nintendork.
Oh, and Andy: Platinum's games were such sales failasaurus rexes that you could easily get a 360 and both games for under $250. $500 is a cray-cray estimate.
Oh, and Andy: Platinum's games were such sales failasaurus rexes that you could easily get a 360 and both games for under $250. $500 is a cray-cray estimate.
Oh, and Andy: Platinum's games were such sales failasaurus rexes that you could easily get a 360 and both games for under $250. $500 is a cray-cray estimate.
Oh, and for $350 you get an Xbox360, Vanquish, Bayonetta, Skyrim, Ninja Gaiden II, Dragon's Dogma, Darksiders 1 and 2, Dark Souls, and Nier. Just sayin'.
Platinum actually makes their games for PC first, more or less. Which is one of the reasons why the 360 version of Bayo was beautiful and the PS3 version was a screaming wreck. They just don't release them on PC, but I wouldn't let hope die on that front either, at least with regards to their non-Nintendo published work.
Dragon's Dogma is basically Monster Hunter but with a bigger world and less busy work, Ninja Gaiden II is a stylish action game, Darksiders 1 and 2 are basically Zelda by another name, and Nier is weird action game with a good story.
i've already seen a ton of brandnew nthing Mass Effect and Assassin Creed fans.
This gen I owned all the consoles, but that happens when you have a good job and live at home and minimum expenses. Now that I've moved out, and have barely any time/money, I'll be a bit choosier.
uh oh, dilemma for andrex:
https://twitter.com/PG_kamiya/status/249484244831834112 (https://twitter.com/PG_kamiya/status/249484244831834112)
do you love kamiya for choo-choo-choosing the wiiU, or do you hate him for his views on android?
Honestly, if I had to suggest any system right now to someone who hasn't owned either of the HD consoles, I'd probably suggest the ps3 (not the one coming out).
360 is the better hardware, but PS3 is the better value - You get a nice Blu Ray player if you've never owned one, and free online MP (plus access to HD Netflix, etc.). Spend the $50 a year you would have spent for XBL on PS+, and you get a nice rotating selection of "free" full PS3 games (plus minis and PS1 games, discounts on digital purchases, etc.).
That said, I wouldn't really recommend anyone buy either of the HD consoles at this point in time at their current price points.
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What it really comes down to is my priorities in games. I favor playing Nintendo games over completely new experiences, so my default is buying a Nintendo system as that's the only one their games are on. There's something to be said for familiarity. This isn't an unknown concept for the games industry, new IP's are seen as serious risks by everyone: publishers are afraid to spend money to fund them, and consumers are either ignorant of them until word of mouth hits or they actively avoid them, trying to stay in their personal safe zones.
Since I'm already buying a system per generation, I tend to stick with only that one for the generation for a variety of reasons. In the past, I haven't been able to get other systems because my family is generally not well-to-do. Instead of blowing $350 on a new system to even be able to access the few games I want for it, I'd rather reinvest that money in the system I already have. That $350 equals about 6 Wii games, or Wiimotes, etc. There are only about 6 or 7 PS3 or 360 games I want to play. For me, the cost-benefit analysis doesn't really work out.
More often these days, another issue is time, as I've brought up more than a few times. It's the reason I didn't own a 3DS until a few weeks ago. I've bought five Wii games this year and haven't beaten any of them. One I haven't even booted up (Fragile), three others I've barely put an hour or two into (Xenoblade, S&P, and Rock Band 3), and the last I struggle to find time to play even when I want to (Monster Hunter), mostly because it requires around an hour time investment minimum each time I want to jump in. Gaming isn't the only type of content I'm into these days; TV shows, movies, comics, and ebooks are all vying for my time. I'm too young to have found a good balance for all of this, and I'm constantly seeking a good way to divvy up my time.
For these reasons, I'm single-console only. I almost bought a PS2 in the middle of this generation, but that was about the time HD remakes and digital ports started to hit so I decided to wait in a price reduction of the current HD twins. As for why I don't buy a PS2 for $50 and go wild with $3-10 games, I apply the same concept to systems I have access to without the upfront cost. There's a lot of Virtual Console classics I have yet to play.
I believe there's a distinction to be made between being a fan of a certain first-party and being a console warrior; I would classify myself in the former group. I like Nintendo games, so I buy Nintendo consoles first. I don't buy other systems, because that time and money could be invested in the system I already have since I'm already being satiated with more content than I'll ever get to play.
As for third party games, there are some like Monster Hunter I'm a really big fan of. The console itself has nothing to do with it. I was excited for Resident Evil 5 since I loved 4, and thought I would eventually play it someday. I've been paying attention to RE6 for that reason, too.
You can say I'm not a "real gamer" since I don't buy all the consoles and invest 100 hours a week into the medium, but for me right now, it's just a light hobby, and I know what kind of games I like. That's all.
Dragon's Dogma is basically Monster Hunter but with a bigger world and less busy work, Ninja Gaiden II is a stylish action game, Darksiders 1 and 2 are basically Zelda by another name, and Nier is weird action game with a good story.
DD seems to shy away from the arcadey aspect of MH I like, NG2 just looks mindless, I'm amenable to Darksiders but the GT review of 2 put me off it (with the gameplay footage, not the review itself), and Nier seems too weird for me.
Dragon's Dogma is basically Monster Hunter but with a bigger world and less busy work, Ninja Gaiden II is a stylish action game, Darksiders 1 and 2 are basically Zelda by another name, and Nier is weird action game with a good story.
DD seems to shy away from the arcadey aspect of MH I like, NG2 just looks mindless, I'm amenable to Darksiders but the GT review of 2 put me off it (with the gameplay footage, not the review itself), and Nier seems too weird for me.
oh my god kill me
Dunno why Andrex bothered with that wall of text
Look son, I suck MS cocks daily and I am proud of it
Was that hard to say? Just admit you love Iwata's cock and be at peace
I waited too long to preorder and now all the close GS aren't taking orders anymore. I wasn't going to purchase it on launch day either way, since the money is tight and I've sworn off buying systems day 1, but the high demand is scaring me. I hope we're not seriously in for Wii's repeat.Nah, it's just a shiny new home console launch and we haven't had one of those in an exceptionally long time. It will probably be nightmarish to find one for the first month+ because it's launching right before holiday season and all.
Platinum actually makes their games for PC first, more or less. Which is one of the reasons why the 360 version of Bayo was beautiful and the PS3 version was a screaming wreck. They just don't release them on PC, but I wouldn't let hope die on that front either, at least with regards to their non-Nintendo published work.
The Wii U will probably have a good holiday season, it will be February on that will be the test.
You guys need to realize that Nintendo didn't just walk down to the shop and pick up some of these cards and slap them in the box. They had their own more skilled engineers probably take multiple passes over the layout of the chip to remove bottlenecks, increase the design performance and add in more advanced technology features. Ninty understands that you can't just throw whatever in a box and get away with it, you have to take care and make sure that the technology is being used properly to produce elegant and artful game-play not just throw pixels around the screen with uncaring brute force.(http://imageftw.com/uploads/20110704/universal-ryoma.gif)
try e4690, wii u's been taped since well before it got iterated into the e6760
You guys need to realize that Nintendo didn't just walk down to the shop and pick up some of these cards and slap them in the box. They had their own more skilled engineers probably take multiple passes over the layout of the chip to remove bottlenecks, increase the design performance and add in more advanced technology features. Ninty understands that you can't just throw whatever in a box and get away with it, you have to take care and make sure that the technology is being used properly to produce elegant and artful game-play not just throw pixels around the screen with uncaring brute force.
try e4690, wii u's been taped since well before it got iterated into the e6760
Thats a 2009 card, Iwata apparently said the GPGPU was a 2011 card but i cant find the links to where iwata said it just find people in forums saying it.
Apparently Retro showed off their Wii U magic to Epic Games and got them to reconsider bringing Unreal Engine 4 to the system.
You guys need to realize that Nintendo didn't just walk down to the shop and pick up some of these cards and slap them in the box. They had their own more skilled engineers probably take multiple passes over the layout of the chip to remove bottlenecks, increase the design performance and add in more advanced technology features. Ninty understands that you can't just throw whatever in a box and get away with it, you have to take care and make sure that the technology is being used properly to produce elegant and artful game-play not just throw pixels around the screen with uncaring brute force.
Nintendo will take an Athlon 64 cpu to places you never thought possible. :bow2
So PC, 360 and PS3 are getting Mass Effect Trilogy (all three games) in November, but the WiiU is only getting ME3?
Cause that makes sense.
ME1 is coming to ps3? holy shit, haha. took six years.
So PC, 360 and PS3 are getting Mass Effect Trilogy (all three games) in November, but the WiiU is only getting ME3?
Cause that makes sense.
That really makes no sense. Even more than the PS3, the Wii U needs a get-up-to-speed collection since it's missing both of the first two games...
So PC, 360 and PS3 are getting Mass Effect Trilogy (all three games) in November, but the WiiU is only getting ME3?
Cause that makes sense.
That really makes no sense. Even more than the PS3, the Wii U needs a get-up-to-speed collection since it's missing both of the first two games...
Oh god, apart from that NSMB copy paste edition, thats totally a PS3/360 lineup.Ports and shitty minigame shit! :hyper
ME1 is coming to ps3? holy shit, haha. took six years.
Yep. Microsoft must have sold the rights to EA or something.
I don't see how it's much different from, say, "OMFG GREATEST LAUNCH LINUP EVER" Vita's launch list.
None of those games were playable on a handheld before.
None of those games were playable on a handheld before.
(http://i.imgur.com/4Y8iT.gif)
When is Mario Kart HD coming?
When is Mario Kart HD coming?
Before Mario Party HD but after Mario Sportstravaganza HD.
When is Mario Kart HD coming?
Before Mario Party HD but after Mario Sportstravaganza HD.
Actually, I'd say switch those around.
Launch day games:
Activision
Call of Duty: Black Ops II
Skylanders Giants
Transformers Prime
Wipeout 3
Disney Interactive
Disney Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two
Electronic Arts
EA Sports FIFA Soccer 13
Namco Bandai
Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Wii U Edition
Nintendo
New Super Mario Bros. U
Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge
Nintendo Land
SiNG Party
Sega
Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed
Tecmo Koei
Warriors Orochi 3 Hyper
THQ
Darksiders II
Ubisoft
Assassin's Creed III
ESPN Sports Connection
Just Dance 4
Rabbids Land
Your Shape: Fitness Evolved 2013
ZombiU
Warner Bros.
Scribblenauts Unlimited
Game Party Champions
Batman: Arkham City Armored Edition
Also used the "pro controller" for this and I know everyone has said but the the buttons under the analogue stick is beyond stupid.
MonHan sugoi desu ne.
preordered - boooom
MonHan sugoi desu ne.
Why? Because no-one does it better. No-one has ever done it better. Nintendo makes mistakes, few companies in gaming have made more dumb-moves than Nintendo, but it also innovates stronger, harder and faster than any other hardware manufacturer.
Why? Because no-one does it better. No-one has ever done it better. Nintendo makes mistakes, few companies in gaming have made more dumb-moves than Nintendo, but it also innovates stronger, harder and faster than any other hardware manufacturer.
Oh, and nobody listen to haters
Makes no sense to use the best
Nobody does that half-arsing as good as you
Baby, baby, darlin', you're sugoi desu
MonHan sugoi desu ne.
:banplz
preordered - boooom
Srsly though "MonHan" annoys me. I keep reading it like MonHam or ManHands.
I think MonHun's fine. Honestly it just rolls of my mind-tongue better than MH.
'MonHan' is the way Japanese people refer to it, because initialisms don't work well in Japanese (MH would be E-mu-e-chi-i, which is longer than saying mo-n-ha-n and a lot less clear). 'MonHun' is what try-hard English gamers call it, most of them not realizing that 'Mon-hun' means 'monster shit' in Japanese, which might actually be an appropriate description for Capcom's latest efforts, but certainly wouldn't be used by any Japanese fan of the series.
I've brought up its silliness before, even on GAF once, if I remember right.
Look, right off the bat, using another language's short-form when your own language's short-form is more efficient is stupid. There's no question here that's the larger sin compared to the hun/han nonsense. That is the aspect that is trying too hard. Why are you using a Japanese short-form at all? It makes no sense in English.
The second layer of the cake is that you're not only unnecessarily using foreign slang, you're using it incorrectly, and in a way that makes you look goofy (the whole hun = shit thing). It's fine if you don't know and are making a silly mistake, but once you've been told about it, continuing to do it the wrong way is purposeful ignorance, which is probably one of the worst things in the world aside from buying a Windows 7 phone in October 2012.
MonHan is the same as Medarot for me. Just looks absurdly stupid if anyone in English uses it.
Or you could just say "Monster Hunter" and not be an annoying knob.
MonHan is the same as Medarot for me. Just looks absurdly stupid if anyone in English uses it.
The reason Medarot is used in place of Medabots is to signify a difference between stuff that's released in the west (Medabots) and that which is Japan-only (Medarot). There's a distinction in the names that saves me some time so I don't have to say game xyz is Japan-only. It's the reason why people call Monster Hunter Portable 3rd that instead of Monster Hunter Freedom 3.
MonHan is the same as Medarot for me. Just looks absurdly stupid if anyone in English uses it.
The reason Medarot is used in place of Medabots is to signify a difference between stuff that's released in the west (Medabots) and that which is Japan-only (Medarot). There's a distinction in the names that saves me some time so I don't have to say game xyz is Japan-only. It's the reason why people call Monster Hunter Portable 3rd that instead of Monster Hunter Freedom 3.
Eh it's still dumb. I doubt people used "Pocket Monsters Nobunaga" when nobody was sure if it was to be released. It's a series already established in the west, should use the western franchise name. You notice your example didn't change the series name, just the game subtitle.
what is it creepy old guy would say here
keep chicking that fucken, boys
Andrex's first article got published at IGN!
http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/10/05/why-wii-u-must-succeed?abthid=506f0bd2dd566568250000feQuoteWhy? Because no-one does it better. No-one has ever done it better. Nintendo makes mistakes, few companies in gaming have made more dumb-moves than Nintendo, but it also innovates stronger, harder and faster than any other hardware manufacturer.
:bow NINTENDO. STRONGER. HARDER. FASTER. OH YES, IWATA! :bow2
I resent this.
Not you, Lager, Dcharles, Creepy Old dude, etc.
Forgot to mention this about Red ZombiU - you have to slide down to use the inventory, and slide up to close it. You drag items around. All of this has a level of lag anyone who has used a non-Nintendo touch screen device since 2007 would find infuriating.
Such a playground that you had to delete your old account for "reasons"
Forgot to mention this about Red ZombiU - you have to slide down to use the inventory, and slide up to close it. You drag items around. All of this has a level of lag anyone who has used a non-Nintendo touch screen device since 2007 would find infuriating.
Please extrapolate. I dont see the big deal atm.
EDIT: I mean are you annoyed that they dotn have a button instead for the inventory?
The idea is fine but the touch screen is so unresponsive and slow that it's useless.
The idea is fine but the touch screen is so unresponsive and slow that it's useless.
I've seen it work in demos, maybe they had kinks in it in the past? Even the 3ds touch screen was quite responsive so i dunno.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxIhZYjyBxc
The DS and 3ds touch screens are like the opposite of responsive especially after the invention of the smart phone
QuoteSuch a playground that you had to delete your old account for "reasons"
this point isn't related to your other point. Yes, it is a playground, yes i deleted my account for real life reasons #shrug
If you think and of those are to do with being annoyed by you then go for it, i don't care.
p.s.
(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/22954796.jpg)
The wife calls it MonHan but then she's half japanese and lives in Japan.
Totally unrelated: Your wife is only half Japanese? What's the other half?
Jackpot!
QuoteSuch a playground that you had to delete your old account for "reasons"
this point isn't related to your other point. Yes, it is a playground, yes i deleted my account for real life reasons #shrug
If you think and of those are to do with being annoyed by you then go for it, i don't care.
p.s.
(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/22954796.jpg)
:bow Father Ted :bow2
So some female rep says that the WiiU is 19x more powerful thasn the ps3. ROFL. Jesus christ.
Rayman Legends delayed until Q1. Why buy one at launch now?
Rayman Legends delayed until Q1. Why buy one at launch now?
No, you have direct control over Rayman in the iOS game (though he runs forward on his own). This one, you don't control Rayman at all. He's A.I. controlled. You use the tablet controller to draw platforms and activate switches and fans and all that fun shit. :-\oh god, wtf is this shit :yuck
No, you have direct control over Rayman in the iOS game (though he runs forward on his own). This one, you don't control Rayman at all. He's A.I. controlled. You use the tablet controller to draw platforms and activate switches and fans and all that fun shit. :-\oh god, wtf is this shit :yuck
Wait, are you serious? There's no way to actually play as Rayman?
:-\
Wii U sounds worse and worse everyday.
"Experience Mario like never before... in full 1080p HD, only on the Wii U console!"
my wife is portuguese too
It's 480p! That's technically HD, guys!!
Technically it's 720p + 480p since it's doing stuff on the TV and controller screen. Smaller hit than 1080p (or 720p 3D). But it's...something something.
I wonder if there's going to be a thing where some games suffer/benefit from playing with two/one screen. There are a few PS3/360 games that run smoother at a lower resolution.
my wife is portuguese too
:tophat
bro fists!
1080u
Nintendo fans have no doubt been excited about Activision’s Call of Duty: Black Ops II making its way onto the Nintendo Wii U next month (Nov. 18 to be exact).
However, after the publisher had previously stated that the game could run at 60fps and at 1080p, gamers have been asking the question as to whether or not that 1080p is native or if the console will upconvert it.
Today, Activision confirmed to us via email that “The game is not natively 1080p”, which of course means that it’s the Wii U that will be able to upconvert it, since the system supports the format.
1080u
1080w(himsy)
1080p dreams crushed everywhere this week
http://gotgame.com/2012/10/12/activision-says-wii-u-version-of-black-ops-2-not-natively-1080p/QuoteNintendo fans have no doubt been excited about Activision’s Call of Duty: Black Ops II making its way onto the Nintendo Wii U next month (Nov. 18 to be exact).
However, after the publisher had previously stated that the game could run at 60fps and at 1080p, gamers have been asking the question as to whether or not that 1080p is native or if the console will upconvert it.
Today, Activision confirmed to us via email that “The game is not natively 1080p”, which of course means that it’s the Wii U that will be able to upconvert it, since the system supports the format.
I was reading elsewhere that 720p is higher than every game on the 360/PS3.Stop visiting ninthing infested sites.Large majority of PS360 games are 720p native.
Besides, most people can't even tell the difference, their HDTV probably is only 720p or plugged in with component or will scale it up. I'm sure there's a limit to how many pixels the human eye can see anyway, you know how you can't see over 24 fps which leaves everything above it looking fake?Simply put,you suck.
And with all the extra shaders and tech you don't want to waste it on 1080p when you can put out something that looks fantastic at less.
Plus, it's not like you can easily just scale games up, you can't just flip a switch or change a number and render a game at a higher resolution.Of course you can(if you have enough VRAM),changing the res is the easiest thing to do these days.The problem is that framerate will drop.
Those are tons of development resources that will be wasted on making all these extra pixels instead of fine tuning the gameplay. I think Nintendo understands which one is going to get more people to actually PLAY the games.Not touching this.
Those are tons of development resources that will be wasted on making all these extra pixels instead of fine tuning the gameplay. I think Nintendo understands which one is going to get more people to actually PLAY the games.
The WiiU was outdated in 2005. Have fun playing Ps360 ports until the new Playstation and Xbox arrive.
The WiiU was outdated in 2005. Have fun playing Ps360 ports until the new Playstation and Xbox arrive.
wow, that gaf wii u spec thread is DELUSIONAL
oh no, i know what next gen holds :teehee
i have such sights to show you
Meh the last 2 pages of this thread are distinguished mentally-challenged. For me Nintendo own monolithsoft, I need the wiiu for their game alone.
Basically.Exactly. I was trying to tell these guys and they don't believe the basic facts, they're all LOOK AT THE PIXEL SHADERS. Nobody who was buying the Wii or Guitar Hero or the DS were caring about any of that tech crap. They wanted solid and innovative gameplay.
"Wii U fanboys on GAF are sooo delusional OMG. :omg"
"Water is soooo wet OMG. :omg"
Who cares?
HAY GUYS DO YOU WANT COD NOW WITHOUT ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND WITH THE CONTRAST TURNED UP AND WITH MORE COLOURS ?
YOU DO!?
WELL WHY NOT BUY THE BUDGET WIIU AT ONLY TWICE THE PRICE OF THE X360, YOU CAN NOW PLAY COD ON YOUR OWN!!!!
NOW YOU CAN CALL ALL YOUR FRIENDSA N-WORD -J-WORD -F-WORD LOSER!*
* - with a 30 minute delay.
> HEY YOU WANT TO PLAY COD? I ONLY HAVE AN HOUR, FEGULON!
30 minutes pass
>> SURE, FBALLS! LETS DO IT!
30 minutes pass
....
transmissions end. Game time clock update : +0.00
2007 - FPS no longer terribly uncreative genre for Sonyers
2012 - FPS no longer terribly uncreative genre for Ntards
FPA
Why not? That's one of the more interesting-looking launch titles.
I don't get the wiitab praise.
X720/PS4 : Diminishing returns, lol
Wii U : OMFG 2% better! #brofist
Is basically where we are headed
X720/PS4 : Diminishing returns, lol
Wii U : OMFG 2% better! #brofist
Is basically where we are headed
I want to know what Scamco was smoking when they decided to make TANK! TANK! TANK! (All caps and exclamation marks required) a retail release.
Remote play, per se, is awesome for every single game out there - for those short bursts when you do not feel like turning the TV on.
But it alone is not enough in order to pick the same game on the Wii U over a picture perfect (1080p, 60fps, AA, texture mods etc.) PC version. Nor is the added, superficial WiiTab crap that more than often will end like the DS 2nd screen usage ie. being relegated to Inventory and Map screen.
Zombie U has some clever Wii U tab usage but it looks like it will feel tiring and annoying after 40 minutes of play.
Who the hell woudl buy the system for ports?People who only play games on Nintendo systems?
Who the hell woudl buy the system for ports?People who only play games on Nintendo systems?
if marco's that guy who used to have a teddy ruxpin avatar, he's a fucking moron. i would advise not reading anything he writes lest your brain melt.
And you know there's no chance the Kinect next gen isn't part of the 720
I've said it before, and I'll reiterate it now: this system has no meaningful market past the Nintendo faithful. I'm betting it tops out at 20-30 mill WW, same as Gamecube and N64.
I can't tell how to take benji's posts in this thread now.I was just mostly rewording GAF posts the other day or extrapolating to what they'll say next. Thread has just been too anti-Nintendo. It's like people are forgetting these are the folks who made Zelda and Metroid and Wii Sports and Wii Party. They aren't going to abandon the real gamer.
I've said it before, and I'll reiterate it now: this system has no meaningful market past the Nintendo faithful. I'm betting it tops out at 20-30 mill WW, same as Gamecube and N64.
I can't tell how to take benji's posts in this thread now.
I've said it before, and I'll reiterate it now: this system has no meaningful market past the Nintendo faithful. I'm betting it tops out at 20-30 mill WW, same as Gamecube and N64.
Seeing as how this generation will probably last even LONGER than the current one (because it will be the LAST) I actually see it capable of selling 40-50 million units. That is not a compliment.
Maybe (HOPEFULLY) for 720/PSquad, but the weeeeeoooooo won't have the necessary hardware to support dl'ing games. (oh wait, we were talking about ACTUAL NEXT GEN stuff. my bad :smug)
i agree with COG that this'll be the longest generation for hardware, but i also think it'll be the shortest generation for retail "on store shelves" games
Maybe (HOPEFULLY) for 720/PSquad, but the weeeeeoooooo won't have the necessary hardware to support dl'ing games. (oh wait, we were talking about ACTUAL NEXT GEN stuff. my bad :smug)
Maybe (HOPEFULLY) for 720/PSquad, but the weeeeeoooooo won't have the necessary hardware to support dl'ing games. (oh wait, we were talking about ACTUAL NEXT GEN stuff. my bad :smug)
:dizzy You can DL full games from day one.
And store them on what, fuckbreath?Aren't you supposed to be able to use any USB 2.0 external HDD?
And store them on what, fuckbreath?Aren't you supposed to be able to use any USB 2.0 external HDD?
And store them on what, fuckbreath?Aren't you supposed to be able to use any USB 2.0 external HDD?
I expect game sizes to balloon a lot next gen.Don't be surprised if you see multiple 50 GB blu-ray discs games.
They will mysteriously shrink for DD services though.
SD cards are fine for smaller games, but for full retail releases you'll probably need several hundred GB.
I can't tell how to take benji's posts in this thread now.I was just mostly rewording GAF posts the other day or extrapolating to what they'll say next. Thread has just been too anti-Nintendo. It's like people are forgetting these are the folks who made Zelda and Metroid and Wii Sports and Wii Party. They aren't going to abandon the real gamer.
I think there's posts a while back where I'm agreeing with Oscar and crew that I just don't know who wants this. If they know it's not a Wii add-on. And based on this page, we're still all in agreement about this.
Also, I had just assumed there would be a Kinect bundle + "hardcore" bundle for next Xbawk. But apparently not?
Nintendo just needs to deliver the innovative gameplay we expect. Who cares about graphics?
The best games of the year are FTL and Thirty Flights of Loving, I think the Wii U could handle them.
After buying my townhouse "rich" is hardly what you can describe me as. :P Especially after my garage door opener, washing machine and car fusebox all decided to die in the same week.
I'd call a tree falling on my house more than just a first world problem. ;)
QuoteAnd you know there's no chance the Kinect next gen isn't part of the 720
it's not. Sorry.
I'd call a tree falling on my house more than just a first world problem. ;)
If you lived in Poland, you probably wouldn't have a house, college boy!
Nobody finds it funny that two of the "insiders" of the boards have sources directly contradicting eachother? Just me? That's OK. I'll keep smarming about it. :teehee
I'll warrant that nobody one The Bore knows more about what goes on behind the scenes in the games industry than Prole and DCharlie. Andrex certainly doesn't.
I'll warrant that nobody one The Bore knows more about what goes on behind the scenes in the games industry than Prole and DCharlie. Andrex certainly doesn't.Do you mean about things regarding gaming itself? Because I've seen some pictures...
You're more transparent than you think
I can't imagine they're gonna stick a kinect in every 720 box. There will be a pack-in though.
I can't imagine they're gonna stick a kinect in every 720 box. There will be a pack-in though.
$400 is the threshold, and that's pushing it tbh.
I like the hobby from the perspective of a gamer, though that is sadly becoming less and less active (which is why i'm at a "SELL EVERYTHING!" state again)
It's way safer for friendships to just try and keep the topic of conversation away from gaming
None of my friends are hardcore gamers and I'm pretty happy about that. Videogame convos in real life is just cripplingly cringe worthy. Why do you think I spend a lot of time on forums?
It's way safer for friendships to just try and keep the topic of conversation away from gaming
None of my friends are hardcore gamers and I'm pretty happy about that. Videogame convos in real life is just cripplingly cringe worthy. Why do you think I spend a lot of time on forums?
Same here. I've got friends who play L4D on Steam, but we never talk about it and I don't talk about my gaming with them.
Yep. If there's ever a chat about videogames, its either about whatever just came out or a "what's this?", "What are you supposed to do?", etc. when they see me playing something I haven't played before.
I'm a 22 year old college student, most of my friends conversations involve booze, pussy and college drama.
You guys have it easy. Video games are at least a somewhat socially acceptable hobby. Try still playing magic the gathering. :fbm
You guys have it easy. Video games are at least a somewhat socially acceptable hobby. Try still playing magic the gathering. :fbm
Try playing Yugioh. :fbm (I don't anymore but still get the urge every so often.)
It's mostly sports and beer. Political conversations can get really ugly thanks to my conservative buddy. Marriage/relationship stuff comes up from time to time, but we don't sit around and complain about our significant others or anything.
You guys have it easy. Video games are at least a somewhat socially acceptable hobby. Try still playing magic the gathering. :fbm
Try playing Yugioh. :fbm (I don't anymore but still get the urge every so often.)
Come on bro. Have some standards.
That's the way it should be. All the happy good couples I know aren't what sitcoms would have you believe.
And I see how far off topic this got, so weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeoooooooooooooo trololololol
I'm a 31 year old married guy. Most of my friends conversations involve marriage, sports, beer, politics and movies.
So that's what I have to look forward to 9 years from now, eh? Assuming some poor unfortunate woman would make the conscious decision to marry me.
Because the WiiU being the new base standard would mean that there is no new standard, but the traditional business model of most third parties relies - for better or worse - on the wow factor of new hardware & better graphics. The WiiU doesn't offer what they need to give their business a new push.
Next Mario etc is going to sell at Wii levels.... why not GC levels? I mean - now I am doing the same as them, but the point is that past performance is not a guarantee of future performance.
I think gc level sales for mario aren't going to happen again because let's face it... sunshine was just off.
wait until you start reaching 40 - then you'll be talking about all the sex you aren't having, how the kids are doing, moaning about <tiny insignificant things at length>, moaning about the generations below you, work moaning, and , possibly, passing on the best new porn websites
wait until you start reaching 40 - then you'll be talking about all the sex you aren't having, how the kids are doing, moaning about <tiny insignificant things at length>, moaning about the generations below you, work moaning, and , possibly, passing on the best new porn websites
This is what I pretty much talk about now (30 years old), aside from the part about the kids...
Only one of my friends plays games these days and it has been the same game since 2003. He only plays Tiger Woods 2004 on his PS2. None of my other friends play games. At work, the average age of my coworkers is about 55 and they will think less of me if I talk about video games. Forums is pretty much it and my gaming is a secret life. Honestly, I'd rather admit to downloading porn and then jerking off to it than playing a video game.
Wii U will support voice chat, but not as a universal, system-based feature. Nintendo has instead opted to allow developers to include the feature on a game-by-game basis. In a strange move, however, the GamePad's built-in mic will apparently not be the default source for voice chat.The publisher revealed that gamers will likely have to turn to third-party options to find headsets with built-in mics, and then plug those accessories into the Pad itself. Here is the company's statement:
"Wii U will have in-game chat functionality for select games, including, but not limited to, Call of Duty: Black Ops II, Assassin’s Creed III and Mass Effect 3. This feature will be supported by licensed stereo headsets that plug directly into the headphone port of the Game Pad. Licensed headsets are available from Turtle Beach and TRITTON."
Things get more confusing from here. Though the GamePad has a plug to support headsets, the Pro controller does not. That immediately cuts off the option of plugging in a headset for voice chat. It appears gamers wishing to use voice chat with the Pro controller will need to plug their third party hardware into the GamePad while playing a game supporting the voice feature.
At this rate I'll buy one of Prole's old Wii U's in 2013
Only one of my friends plays games these days and it has been the same game since 2003. He only plays Tiger Woods 2004 on his PS2. None of my other friends play games. At work, the average age of my coworkers is about 55 and they will think less of me if I talk about video games. Forums is pretty much it and my gaming is a secret life. Honestly, I'd rather admit to downloading porn and then jerking off to it than playing a video game.
GC is the high water mark for post SNES Nintendo so power to them if this is going to resemble that (I know we're only talking sales at this point but still GC :bow2).
GC is the high water mark for post SNES Nintendo so power to them if this is going to resemble that (I know we're only talking sales at this point but still GC :bow2).
The Gamecube was very underrated. I loved that thing.
http://au.ign.com/articles/2012/10/18/wii-us-baffling-voice-chat-solution-revealedQuoteWii U will support voice chat, but not as a universal, system-based feature. Nintendo has instead opted to allow developers to include the feature on a game-by-game basis. In a strange move, however, the GamePad's built-in mic will apparently not be the default source for voice chat.The publisher revealed that gamers will likely have to turn to third-party options to find headsets with built-in mics, and then plug those accessories into the Pad itself. Here is the company's statement:
"Wii U will have in-game chat functionality for select games, including, but not limited to, Call of Duty: Black Ops II, Assassin’s Creed III and Mass Effect 3. This feature will be supported by licensed stereo headsets that plug directly into the headphone port of the Game Pad. Licensed headsets are available from Turtle Beach and TRITTON."
Things get more confusing from here. Though the GamePad has a plug to support headsets, the Pro controller does not. That immediately cuts off the option of plugging in a headset for voice chat. It appears gamers wishing to use voice chat with the Pro controller will need to plug their third party hardware into the GamePad while playing a game supporting the voice feature.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFu7nKRwQMc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9sS7kWpPhM
GC is the high water mark for post SNES Nintendo so power to them if this is going to resemble that (I know we're only talking sales at this point but still GC :bow2).
The Gamecube was very underrated. I loved that thing.
I bought a GC around the time Resident Evil 4 came out. It really is a great little system. It doesn't have the gigantic library of the PS2, but there is a solid set of titles worth playing.
That's just great
get in line
https://twitter.com/EMP_TriForce_GM/status/260398758653743105/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/EMP_TriForce_GM/status/260398758653743105/photo/1)
100% truth right here. Still wish they'd be up for losing a bit to make me a new F Zero and a 2D Metroid though.Why cant Nintendo just act normal? They are like that nerd who is too nerdy to fit in with regular nerds.
They act how they act because they make a fuckton of money acting that way, and pretty much every time they've made even slight attempts to act like the other nerds, they've made less money/lost money. Understanding Nintendo gets a lot simpler if you rub your eyes and realize they are in it for the money and are better at achieving that than any other game company ever.
Why cant Nintendo just act normal? They are like that nerd who is too nerdy to fit in with regular nerds.
They act how they act because they make a fuckton of money acting that way, and pretty much every time they've made even slight attempts to act like the other nerds, they've made less money/lost money. Understanding Nintendo gets a lot simpler if you rub your eyes and realize they are in it for the money and are better at achieving that than any other game company ever.
That's fine. I'm not asking if you're fine with it, I'm just answering every "WHY DOES(N'T) NINTENDO DO THIS THING THAT THE OTHER COMPANIES DOES(N'T) DO" question ever. The answer is always "It's more safely profitable". Always.
Yes well, that's fanboys for you. Haven't you learned about them by now?
That's fine. I'm not asking if you're fine with it, I'm just answering every "WHY DOES(N'T) NINTENDO DO THIS THING THAT THE OTHER COMPANIES DOES(N'T) DO" question ever.
Sega should stick to F-Zero as far as Nintendo games go.
speaking of them, are they still asking for a Kamiya helmed Star Fox game?
I've seen it mention a couple times and it always confuses me because: a) the star fox series has more bad games than good games. b) bayonetta's space harrier homage. c) bayoentta's space harrier homage.
Bayonetta 2 has proven, if nothing else, that console warz are srs bsns. Kamiya's done this dance before, of course, but because Twitter didn't exist back then, he didn't have to bear the full brunt of how distinguished mentally-challenged English gamers are about this stuff.
RE2/DMC era, sony guys: holy fuck this guy's games are so hot when is the next one sama-sama! nintendo fans: meh
VJ era, sony guys: meh, looks like a crappy baby DMC, nintendo guys: OMFG BBQ BEST GAME EVER KAMIYA RULES
Okami era, sony guys: holy shit this is better than zelda, kamiya rules, nintendo guys: craaaaaaaaaaaaappppppppppppppppy zellllllllllllldaaaaaaaaaaaaa copyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Bayonetta era, sony guys: fuck yeah, true successor to DMC up in here, xbox guys: erm, it runs like shit on yo-, nintendo guys: SHE LOOKS LIKE AN UGLY TRANSVESTITE GIRAFFE, I WOULD BE EMBARRASSED TO PLAY SO-CALLED "MACHOOR" GAMES LIKE THAT
Bayonetta 2 era, sony guys: DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIE KAMIYA DIE, xbox guys: DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIE KAMIYA DIE, nintendo guys: well i always rather liked kamiya anyway, tut tut
I'd rather they get SEGA to make a new Panzer Dragoon.
I'd rather they get SEGA to make a new Panzer Dragoon.http://www.wpcentral.com/xbox-windows-phone-review-crimson-dragon-side-story
Bayonetta 2 has proven, if nothing else, that console warz are srs bsns. Kamiya's done this dance before, of course, but because Twitter didn't exist back then, he didn't have to bear the full brunt of how distinguished mentally-challenged English gamers are about this stuff.
RE2/DMC era, sony guys: holy fuck this guy's games are so hot when is the next one sama-sama! nintendo fans: meh
VJ era, sony guys: meh, looks like a crappy baby DMC, nintendo guys: OMFG BBQ BEST GAME EVER KAMIYA RULES
Okami era, sony guys: holy shit this is better than zelda, kamiya rules, nintendo guys: craaaaaaaaaaaaappppppppppppppppy zellllllllllllldaaaaaaaaaaaaa copyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Bayonetta era, sony guys: fuck yeah, true successor to DMC up in here, xbox guys: erm, it runs like shit on yo-, nintendo guys: SHE LOOKS LIKE AN UGLY TRANSVESTITE GIRAFFE, I WOULD BE EMBARRASSED TO PLAY SO-CALLED "MACHOOR" GAMES LIKE THAT
Bayonetta 2 era, sony guys: DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIE KAMIYA DIE, xbox guys: DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIE KAMIYA DIE, nintendo guys: well i always rather liked kamiya anyway, tut tut
While it might seem disheartening that a game on a new platform is apparently so similar to its cross-platform counterparts, Mr Hutchinson sees it as a good thing.
"It is exactly the same game that's on the other platforms. And I know that sounds ridiculous, but it's been a long time since I've shipped a game on more than three platforms where you could say it's all the same. It's not like some radically diminished version, so that's exciting."
Bayonetta 2 has proven, if nothing else, that console warz are srs bsns. Kamiya's done this dance before, of course, but because Twitter didn't exist back then, he didn't have to bear the full brunt of how distinguished mentally-challenged English gamers are about this stuff.
RE2/DMC era, sony guys: holy fuck this guy's games are so hot when is the next one sama-sama! nintendo fans: meh
VJ era, sony guys: meh, looks like a crappy baby DMC, nintendo guys: OMFG BBQ BEST GAME EVER KAMIYA RULES
Okami era, sony guys: holy shit this is better than zelda, kamiya rules, nintendo guys: craaaaaaaaaaaaappppppppppppppppy zellllllllllllldaaaaaaaaaaaaa copyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Bayonetta era, sony guys: fuck yeah, true successor to DMC up in here, xbox guys: erm, it runs like shit on yo-, nintendo guys: SHE LOOKS LIKE AN UGLY TRANSVESTITE GIRAFFE, I WOULD BE EMBARRASSED TO PLAY SO-CALLED "MACHOOR" GAMES LIKE THAT
Bayonetta 2 era, sony guys: DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIE KAMIYA DIE, xbox guys: DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIE KAMIYA DIE, nintendo guys: well i always rather liked kamiya anyway, tut tut
It's exactly the same BUT with the iPadU which makes it the superior version. :bow Nintendo Excellence :bow2
"It's not like some radically diminished version, so that's exciting."
Annual sales of Nintendo’s flagship 3DS handheld player, introduced last year, will be 17.5 million units, 5.4 percent lower than previously estimated, the company said in a statement today. Nintendo also lowered its forecast for 3DS software sales 4.1 percent and said it will sell its new Wii U model at a loss.
like some radically diminished version, so that's exciting."
I'd rather download 16.7 GB than have a gimped version.
How big is the HDD in the WiiU?
How big is the HDD in the WiiU?
Basic Set: 8GB
Deluxe Set: 32GB
LOL.
With Nintendo, every pack is the Tard Pack.
You can buy a terabyte drive for like fifty bucks.
Give or take, yeah. It's the same as 360/ps3/vita only with a too-expensive base unit instead of the overpriced storage.QuoteYou can buy a terabyte drive for like fifty bucks.
So the actual cost of a Wii U in any sort of truly usable form for downloadable is, give or take, about $50 or so?
Bayonetta 2 has proven, if nothing else, that console warz are srs bsns. Kamiya's done this dance before, of course, but because Twitter didn't exist back then, he didn't have to bear the full brunt of how distinguished mentally-challenged English gamers are about this stuff.
RE2/DMC era, sony guys: holy fuck this guy's games are so hot when is the next one sama-sama! nintendo fans: meh
VJ era, sony guys: meh, looks like a crappy baby DMC, nintendo guys: OMFG BBQ BEST GAME EVER KAMIYA RULES
Okami era, sony guys: holy shit this is better than zelda, kamiya rules, nintendo guys: craaaaaaaaaaaaappppppppppppppppy zellllllllllllldaaaaaaaaaaaaa copyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Bayonetta era, sony guys: fuck yeah, true successor to DMC up in here, xbox guys: erm, it runs like shit on yo-, nintendo guys: SHE LOOKS LIKE AN UGLY TRANSVESTITE GIRAFFE, I WOULD BE EMBARRASSED TO PLAY SO-CALLED "MACHOOR" GAMES LIKE THAT
Bayonetta 2 era, sony guys: DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIE KAMIYA DIE, xbox guys: DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIE KAMIYA DIE, nintendo guys: well i always rather liked kamiya anyway, tut tut
You can buy a terabyte drive for like fifty bucks. This is like the one thing they are doing right. Actually - better than anybody else.
How big is the HDD in the WiiU?
Basic Set: 8GB
Deluxe Set: 32GB
LOL.
A choice where one includes Nintendo Plus one where it doesn't
Games that support some controllers not others
You got a point with the shareholder stuff, its baffling though. Must be that controller tab.
Is there any truth behind the rumor about getting GC games on a VC eventually? mmmm....wind waker....
Is there any truth behind the rumor about getting GC games on a VC eventually? mmmm....wind waker....
It's a Nintendo console. Nintendo peeps are hyped and everyone else isn't. Not really breaking the mold there.
Wasn't the only other console like that the Game Cube? Wii was hyped cause of the supposed "revolution", N64 was coming off of the Super Nintendo and had 3D Mario and Zelda behind it, the SNES and NES are self explanatory.
Wasn't the only other console like that the Game Cube? Wii was hyped cause of the supposed "revolution", N64 was coming off of the Super Nintendo and had 3D Mario and Zelda behind it, the SNES and NES are self explanatory.
Wii U's tepid reaction is probably from Nintendo's weird way of announcing games these days. Wii launched in 2006, but Nintendo showed far off games like Metroid Prime 3, Mario Galaxy, Smash Bros Brawl, etc.
Wii has a better first party library than GameCube
Wii has a better first party library than GameCube but GC actually got, you know, third party games and given not everyone can handle whimsy all the time I'd siding with the Cube.
Wii has a better first party library than GameCube
WHAT IS THIS I DON'T EVEN
If you mean lame PS2 ports, sure, GameCube had third party support. Wii got more original/exclusive third party efforts though.
Sunshine > Galaxy.
Twilight Princess > Skyward Sword.
Metroid Prime > Other M.
Melee > Brawl.
Double Dash > Mario Kart Wii.
Jungle Beat > DKCR
F-Zero GX > ???
Pikmin 1&2 > ???
Eternal Darkness > ???
Super Monkey Ball 1&2 > ???
Viewtiful Joe > ???
Killer 7 = NMH1&2
Resident Evil 4 > all.
I also enjoyed other not so loved Game Cube games like Star Fox: Dinosaur Planet. So I guess I'm just weird.
If you mean lame PS2 ports, sure, GameCube had third party support. Wii got more original/exclusive third party efforts though.
Yes, original third party content like Spyborgs and The Munchables.
Sunshine > Galaxy.
Twilight Princess > Skyward Sword.
Metroid Prime > Other M.
Melee > Brawl.
Double Dash > Mario Kart Wii.
Jungle Beat > DKCR
F-Zero GX > ???
Pikmin 1&2 > ???
Eternal Darkness > ???
Super Monkey Ball 1&2 > ???
Viewtiful Joe > ???
Killer 7 = NMH1&2
Resident Evil 4 > all.
I also enjoyed other not so loved Game Cube games like Star Fox: Dinosaur Planet. So I guess I'm just weird.
Melee was just a lot more fun for me, Brawl was just melle again just slower with a tacked on story mode and it wasn't half as replayable.
Mario Kart Wii is by far the worst mario kart game out there, jesus doghumping christ its awful. Double Dash is underrated in my opinion, its a good game that gets too much hate seeing as it came out after the best console game in the series( :bow mario kart 64 :bow2)
I love DKCR, I just prefer jungle beat for how different it was(ironic considering how the Wii was supposed to change the way we play and shit)
You mean two bad Kirby games
You mean the most boring Wario Land game ever.
You mean a remake.
I think Moster Hunter is awful.
MKWii is an average game dude, Double Dash is at least above average. With SMS I know I'm in the minority but I don't really care. Also Ypu should try not to post up ports next time, you'd be surprised how thinner the game content will look like for the wii.
BRB, taking a shower while contemplating suicide cause of this pathetic ninfaggotry I delved in.
Galaxy was a lot better than Sunshine, come on.
List wars between the Gamecube and the Wii. These fuckin' guys.
I really didn't mind the gamecube because it's high points were high.
If, however, i was a Gamecube only player at that time i'd have been throwing myself under the nearest train.
Whats going on here?
So - those Monster Hunter Wii U bundles that totally sold out are now back in stock for preorder at a fair few places, premium sets/basics still available.
Either Japan is getting a trillion launch units or this really is "no one cares, yet" - i've never seen a high profile machine not sell out it's preorders - i had to fecking queue to get a Wii preorder on first day of preorders for godsake.
So now i have two machines preordered (i did have three, but the amazon one can go) - i doubt i'm picking any of them up to be honest, but at least i have some options.
I'll pick one up in about a year, for $100.00 :smug
I'll pick one up in about a year, for $100.00 :smug
So confident! But are you ballsy enough to put your money where your mouth is and short some Nintendo stock :P
I'll pick one up in about a year, for $100.00 :smug
So confident! But are you ballsy enough to put your money where your mouth is and short some Nintendo stock :P
I don't want to be homeless :teehee
I'll pick one up in about a year, for $100.00 :smug
So confident! But are you ballsy enough to put your money where your mouth is and short some Nintendo stock :P
I don't want to be homeless :teehee
Never bet against Nintendo's shiniest new thing for the unwashed masses, eh?
I honestly find it difficult to believe that we have a full on sell out in US and Europe on preorders and not in Japan. It just seems completely unrealistic unless the numbers are incredibly low outside of Japan.
i know : "<place> is NINTENDO LAND!!" but as i keep seeing "But Wii U has Dragon Quest, a new mario and Monster Hunter at launch! Game over! All the big japanese titles..."
so something isn't right somewhere along the line.
I honestly find it difficult to believe that we have a full on sell out in US and Europe on preorders and not in Japan. It just seems completely unrealistic unless the numbers are incredibly low outside of Japan.
i know : "<place> is NINTENDO LAND!!" but as i keep seeing "But Wii U has Dragon Quest, a new mario and Monster Hunter at launch! Game over! All the big japanese titles..."
so something isn't right somewhere along the line.
"When the Deluxe Digital Promotion website launches in December, participants can see the points they've earned and receive codes for Nintendo eShop credit by signing in with their Nintendo Network ID and password." (http://press.nintendo.com/articles.jsp?id=35772)
Get a $5+ eShop credit with every full price retail game you buy, if you go black.
Not completely surprised by a sell out on day one.
Less interest in home consoles, higher interest in portables?
I preordered 2 Wii U tard+ packs without a problem today :smug (one for myself, one for a family member)
Didn't Andrex say that preorders were sold out everywhere? That doesn't seem to be the case at all in my experience.
making it that Bubble Bobble sidescroller i always wanted
FAMILY FRIENDLY DUBSTEP
Nintendrones are getting even more unruly than usual thanks to people rightfully calling this ad poop at what it's trying to do. It's aimed at the casuals who probably don't know what the Wii U is, but the ad assumes they do. The die-hards saying the 2 seconds of an off centre Wii U deck at the end will clearly tell them it's a new console is a joke given how similar it looks to the Wii.
There are still people who think the 3DS is a DS with 3D, and their first Wii U ad doesn't clear up that confusion. That said, I have to believe NoA has a more straight forward ad in the wings.
am i the only one shocked at the "this is my first time playing XXX" comments when it gets released on the wii u? i mean, people have never played a tekken game before now, and are jumping in right now? why? if ive avoided a series for a decade, im not gonna jump in because its on a new system.
am i the only one shocked at the "this is my first time playing XXX" comments when it gets released on the wii u? i mean, people have never played a tekken game before now, and are jumping in right now? why? if ive avoided a series for a decade, im not gonna jump in because its on a new system.
something something Nintendo fan something
so nintendo fans stay seclusively inside a nintendo balloon? how fucking miserable would that be? i mean, what did they play for the majority of the wiis lifespan?
so nintendo fans stay seclusively inside a nintendo balloon? how fucking miserable would that be? i mean, what did they play for the majority of the wiis lifespan?
Eh, in all honesty, it's really not that weird. I mean, it's weird if we're talking about people on message boards like GAF who seem to live, eat, and breathe gaming but stay exclusive to one platform, but actually know several people in real life who like video games, but aren't diehard fans. And among them, there's like 3 people that I can personally think of that for whatever reason just stick with Nintendo. They like Mario and Zelda and whatever else, and they play whatever else interests them.
hes a fanboy. but he hasnt said anything stupid like that that im aware of.
More as he has never owned a non nintendo machine. Isn't that what you were referring to?
hes a fanboy. but he hasnt said anything stupid like that that im aware of.
Are you not aware of him becoming the biggest Monster Hunter fan ever after it came out on the Wii?
so then why would someone like that garner interest in a series that theyve ignored up until now?
so then why would someone like that garner interest in a series that theyve ignored up until now?
Because now they can play it on the machine that they own.
its not like it would be too much of an effort to have played any of them before now. most computers can emulate the psx, and that has tekken 3 on it. it just seems odd to do something like that. it would be like someone saying that they are finally gonna play final fantasy 7-9 or tactics because they are coming out on the 3ds. if you havent played them by now, why do you even care?
its not like it would be too much of an effort to have played any of them before now. most computers can emulate the psx, and that has tekken 3 on it. it just seems odd to do something like that. it would be like someone saying that they are finally gonna play final fantasy 7-9 or tactics because they are coming out on the 3ds. if you havent played them by now, why do you even care?
Well, again, I think it depends on what audience you're talking about. The core gaming audience that is in the know about all this crap, or people that just like games. For instance, a couple of the friends I have that I mentioned earlier? They compute on crappy laptops and don't have controllers for their computer. They wouldn't waste more than ten minutes on trying to get ePSXe up and running before they said fuck it. I get this type; they value convenience.
Now, if we segue back to the hardcore audience, then I'll join you in derisive laughter because I assume we're focusing our attention on the crowd that is excited about Tekken Tag after ~15 years of thinking that Smash Bros. was the only important fighting series.
am i the only one shocked at the "this is my first time playing XXX" comments when it gets released on the wii u? i mean, people have never played a tekken game before now, and are jumping in right now? why? if ive avoided a series for a decade, im not gonna jump in because its on a new system.
something something Nintendo fan something
so nintendo fans stay seclusively inside a nintendo balloon? how fucking miserable would that be? i mean, what did they play for the majority of the wiis lifespan?
hes a fanboy. but he hasnt said anything stupid like that that im aware of.so nintendo fans stay seclusively inside a nintendo balloon? how fucking miserable would that be? i mean, what did they play for the majority of the wiis lifespan?
Eh, in all honesty, it's really not that weird. I mean, it's weird if we're talking about people on message boards like GAF who seem to live, eat, and breathe gaming but stay exclusive to one platform, but actually know several people in real life who like video games, but aren't diehard fans. And among them, there's like 3 people that I can personally think of that for whatever reason just stick with Nintendo. They like Mario and Zelda and whatever else, and they play whatever else interests them.
so then why would someone like that garner interest in a series that theyve ignored up until now?
am i the only one shocked at the "this is my first time playing XXX" comments when it gets released on the wii u? i mean, people have never played a tekken game before now, and are jumping in right now? why? if ive avoided a series for a decade, im not gonna jump in because its on a new system.
something something Nintendo fan something
so nintendo fans stay seclusively inside a nintendo balloon? how fucking miserable would that be? i mean, what did they play for the majority of the wiis lifespan?
so nintendo fans stay seclusively inside a nintendo balloon? how fucking miserable would that be? i mean, what did they play for the majority of the wiis lifespan?
Eh, in all honesty, it's really not that weird. I mean, it's weird if we're talking about people on message boards like GAF who seem to live, eat, and breathe gaming but stay exclusive to one platform, but I actually know several people in real life who like video games, but aren't diehard fans. And among them, there's like 3 people that I can personally think of that for whatever reason just stick with Nintendo. They like Mario and Zelda and (insert random other title here), and they play whatever else interests them.
but hes played the portable series though, hasnt he?
am i the only one shocked at the "this is my first time playing XXX" comments when it gets released on the wii u? i mean, people have never played a tekken game before now, and are jumping in right now? why? if ive avoided a series for a decade, im not gonna jump in because its on a new system.
something something Nintendo fan something
so nintendo fans stay seclusively inside a nintendo balloon? how fucking miserable would that be? i mean, what did they play for the majority of the wiis lifespan?
hes a fanboy. but he hasnt said anything stupid like that that im aware of.
I guess you weren't there when he decided he was a Kamiya who is really looking forward to Bayonetta 2 despite never playing the first one.
And Batman Arkham City is totally going to be the game of the year guys.
There is legit reasons for not wanting to play games on the pc... In my case I won't be able to get a wii u until next year, so hopefully some of the lollateports will be heavily discounted by that point.
I love the PC as a platform and game almost exclusively on it. However, I do understand that consoles will almost always offer less of a barrier to entry in both convenience and cost. I'll advise anyone who will listen that building a gaming rig isn't as big of a hassle as one might think, but I still realize that if you're just the type that says "what's the easiest/cheapest way to play Call of Duty on my TV?", I can't in good faith really make a strong pitch that PC is the way to go.
FIRST US COMMERCIAL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dbGJieRaH0
why u is the controller and it's for kids right?
By the way, is the iPad 4 confirmed as more powerful than Weeoo yet
All games will be up ports from Wii U anyway, you're not gaining anything from them besides some higher textures.
All games will be up ports from Wii U anyway, you're not gaining anything from them besides some higher textures.
indeed - but that amazing non trivial jump from PS3/X360 to Wii U is AMAZING whilst the jump from Wii U to Orbis/Nexus is pointless and pretty much the definition of diminishing returns.
(i really can't wait to see the reactions from Nthings when the bombs go off)
All games will be up ports from Wii U anyway, you're not gaining anything from them besides some higher textures.
indeed - but that amazing non trivial jump from PS3/X360 to Wii U is AMAZING whilst the jump from Wii U to Orbis/Nexus is pointless and pretty much the definition of diminishing returns.
(i really can't wait to see the reactions from Nthings when the bombs go off)
Are you sure about that? On the contrary, I think it is going to be completely boring.
But guyzzz - MS and Sony have gone really low on their specs - there's really not much difference between the Wii U and PS4/Xinfinityspoiler (click to show/hide):elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant[close]
that's really their latest spin? omg
The saddest thing about people buying Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games is that they are basicly buying it for games and genres and series that havent developed anything since the N64. Mario, Zelda, Mario Kart. The big Nintendo games.
Other consoles are so much more dynamic, sure you still got your Tekken, but in 15 years its just another title. Whats hot and fresh keeps changing all the time. New fads come and go, new titles, ideas, mechanisms. The biggest change in games these past 6 years hasnt been waggle but the xp mechanism COD made big. Its everywhere now in every genre. Another shift is the online focus and coop.
Far from being the self proclaimed innovator Nintendo lags behind the industry.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH3zgLoJIME
Nintendo Land
- “…Luigi’s Haunted Mansion, Animal Crossing Sweet Day and Mario Chase offer up some of the most innovative, raucous and party-fueling fun we’ve ever had with a console”
- Plaza is filled with all things Nintendo
- There’s menu music for each attraction that bleeps out in NES chimes
- Monita, the floating computer, guides you around the park’s features
- Spend winnings on pachinko-esque coin game
- Win a jukebox, day/night cycle button, and more
- Miis from your console and other consoles through the Internet
- Attraction mode: set up a Nintendo Land party; choose a time limit and player count and then head to a points-based tournament of mini-games
- Multiplayer games are fun, but GamesMaster says the single-player ones are sometimes forgettable
- A few games highlight “some seemingly inherent problems”
- Ex: Takamaru’s Ninja Challenge – “constant screen misalignment”
- GamesMaster says GamePad/TV crossover usually works best when done in tandem
- “As a discerning gamer, you may not find all that Nintendo Land has to offer to your liking, but should you fork out for a Wii U, you owe it to your family, to your friends and to everyone else you know, to bag a copy of this to go with it.”
- Graphics: 90%
- Gameplay: 86%
- Accessibility: 95%
- Lifespan: 82%
- Innovation: 92%
- Overall: 86%
- “An essential purchase for party lovers that whets the Nintendo appetite. Bring friends.”
New Super Mario Bros. U
- May look the same, but there are some “incredible tweaks”
- GamesMaster feels it’s easier than NSMB Wii
- Took under seven hours to complete
- More to the game outside of the main campaign
- Most of the innovation is saved for the final levels
- “Without wishing to spoil anything, we were surprised, excited, and twinkly-eyed during an excellent finale. It’s almost as if Nintendo suddenly realised that they were in fact working with a Wii U, with a game-changing GamePad and everything.”
- Hopes Nintendo will “build on this solid, if not mind-blowing, foundation.”
- Graphics: 82%
- Gameplay: 85%
- Accessibility: 90%
- Lifespan: 80%
- Innovation: 75%
- Overall: 82%
- “A great excuse for families to gather round the TV, and an enticing glimpse of Mario’s HD future.”
Nice scoop maxy :) Are you excited for the Wii U launch? :D I mean, finally, something is happening in the console space and all be told Wii U is a 360+ so the best hardware out of 360/ PS3/ Wii U.
Gentlemen, brace yourself, next-gen starts this month :tophat
Has Nintendo said anything about how you transfer virtual console/wiiware games to the Wii U? iirc, the DS/3DS way wipes your old system. Last I checked Nintendo hadn't said much of anything about how anything works and this thing is coming out in two weeks.
sort of related, but has anyone tried one of those Wii to HDMI converters? I'm not expecting it to upscale Wii. I just want to replace the component input with HDMI, unless it introduces heinous lag and artifacts or w/e.
supports all controllers from the Wii Remote Plus
Where's Andrex? Seems like he disappeared.
Camping outside Wal-Mart.
- GamesMaster feels it’s easier than NSMB Wii
Nice scoop maxy :) Are you excited for the Wii U launch? :D I mean, finally, something is happening in the console space and all be told Wii U is a 360+ so the best hardware out of 360/ PS3/ Wii U.
Nice scoop maxy :) Are you excited for the Wii U launch? :D I mean, finally, something is happening in the console space and all be told Wii U is a 360+ so the best hardware out of 360/ PS3/ Wii U.
What exactly is "happening"?
He's participating in National Novel Writing Month, I believe.
"Oh, Pikachu," moaned Ash Ketchum as his Pokeymon's coarse tongue stroked his distended hairless ballsack. "I...choose...YOU!"
He shuddered as he nutted a pokeball's worth of baby gravy all over the yellow rodent.
"Pika-pi!" Pikachu shook the heavy drizzle of cum from his fur. "Pika-pika!"
But Ash wasn't finished! "Now, Pikachu, thundershock my asshole!"
He's participating in National Novel Writing Month, I believe.Quote from: Andrex' new novel"Oh, Pikachu," moaned Ash Ketchum as his Pokeymon's coarse tongue stroked his distended hairless ballsack. "I...choose...YOU!"
He shuddered as he nutted a pokeball's worth of baby gravy all over the yellow rodent.
"Pika-pi!" Pikachu shook the heavy drizzle of cum from his fur. "Pika-pika!"
But Ash wasn't finished! "Now, Pikachu, thundershock my asshole!"
He's participating in National Novel Writing Month, I believe.Quote from: Andrex' new novel"Oh, Pikachu," moaned Ash Ketchum as his Pokeymon's coarse tongue stroked his distended hairless ballsack. "I...choose...YOU!"
He shuddered as he nutted a pokeball's worth of baby gravy all over the yellow rodent.
"Pika-pi!" Pikachu shook the heavy drizzle of cum from his fur. "Pika-pika!"
But Ash wasn't finished! "Now, Pikachu, thundershock my asshole!"
"Now, Pikachu, thundershock my asshole!"
:rofl :rofl :rofl
He's participating in National Novel Writing Month, I believe.Quote from: Andrex' new novel"Oh, Pikachu," moaned Ash Ketchum as his Pokeymon's coarse tongue stroked his distended hairless ballsack. "I...choose...YOU!"
He shuddered as he nutted a pokeball's worth of baby gravy all over the yellow rodent.
"Pika-pi!" Pikachu shook the heavy drizzle of cum from his fur. "Pika-pika!"
But Ash wasn't finished! "Now, Pikachu, thundershock my asshole!"
This Nintendo Direct is just Iwata unboxing a Wii U. With gloves on.
:lol @ the size of the power brick
The process for transferring data from a Wii to a Wii U is outlined in the console's instruction manual, which Polygon received today alongside a review unit of Nintendo's new hardware.
The process is somewhat similar to the transfer process between Nintendo's handheld devices, but requires a couple of extra steps. First, users must insert an SD card into the Wii U to initiate the process using the console's Wii System Transfer application. After starting the process, the user must put the same SD card into their Wii, and download another transfer application from the Wii Shop Channel. That app will move data over to the card, which must be put back into the Wii U, at which point the Wii data is moved to the console, and deleted from the card altogether.
3 hours is terrible for your main controller, and you can't even connect it to your system to charge, you have to plug it into a wall outlet. So ghetto.
GET...hype...?
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GET...hype...?
3 hours is terrible for your main controller, and you can't even connect it to your system to charge, you have to plug it into a wall outlet. So ghetto.
do we have a teardown of the hardware yet? i got 100 bucks riding on this.
3 hours is terrible for your main controller, and you can't even connect it to your system to charge, you have to plug it into a wall outlet. So ghetto.
Obviously you are kidding here.
I mean you can't play with your controller hooked up to the console ?
Omg...
It begins(for real)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMvEHpTgjjU
3 hours is terrible for your main controller, and you can't even connect it to your system to charge, you have to plug it into a wall outlet. So ghetto.
Obviously you are kidding here.
I mean you can't play with your controller hooked up to the console ?
Omg...
It has its own ac adapter...
Tank! Tank! Tank! looks like a gamecube game.
Let me just re-translate that stuff so as to not cause confusion. This all comes from the JP Wii U site's Q&A section:
Q. Can download software saved to USB media be played on another Wii U?
A. No. Download software can only be used on 1 Wii U per 1 USB media.
Q. Where is software that I purchased a download for saved to?
A. Internal memory or USB media. Download software can't be saved to the SD card.
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wiiu/suppo...are/index.html
Next-gen starts in one week, dudes.
R U E?
I have posted this in other threads, so figure will post it here as well. I have been in the retail business for over 20 years at a major national retail chain. I have been part of every launch since the NES/Sega Master System. Outside of the Vita/3DS, the Wii U has ben the least hyped home console that I have seen in all these years. Regardless of the pre-sales that were extremly limited and we all know the hardcore/ebayers were going to snap those up anyways, the general consumer, the mom & dad's that come into the store, the kids that come in, there is no talk of the Wii U.
For every other home console launch, there was massive amounts of hype surrounding the upcoming system. From people asking about, people clamoring about which games will be made, people talking about how amazing the new games look in video's etc. This thing has little hype and probably one of the lowest I have seen.
Some have suggested that this is being done intentionally because Nintendo is aware that there is a lack of hardware that will be available, some can point to the lack of Nintendo's media department pushing the new system because of this. While I am personally excited for the new system, based on my experience this will be the least hyped/least attended launch system in a very long time.
Yes, and yes. They even include an HDMI cable in the box. It does not upscale Wii games, and you cannot use the new tablet or pro controllers on Wii games.
In Europe they will sell a Wii U Additional Remote Set that contains a Wiimote+, a Nunchuk, and a sensor bar. The new Wii U sensor bar isn't compatible with Wiimotes. Why? Because Nintendo.
Next-gen starts in one week, dudes.
R U E?
Nope. Wii U is DOOMEDEDED:QuoteI have posted this in other threads, so figure will post it here as well. I have been in the retail business for over 20 years at a major national retail chain. I have been part of every launch since the NES/Sega Master System. Outside of the Vita/3DS, the Wii U has ben the least hyped home console that I have seen in all these years. Regardless of the pre-sales that were extremly limited and we all know the hardcore/ebayers were going to snap those up anyways, the general consumer, the mom & dad's that come into the store, the kids that come in, there is no talk of the Wii U.
For every other home console launch, there was massive amounts of hype surrounding the upcoming system. From people asking about, people clamoring about which games will be made, people talking about how amazing the new games look in video's etc. This thing has little hype and probably one of the lowest I have seen.
Some have suggested that this is being done intentionally because Nintendo is aware that there is a lack of hardware that will be available, some can point to the lack of Nintendo's media department pushing the new system because of this. While I am personally excited for the new system, based on my experience this will be the least hyped/least attended launch system in a very long time.
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Blame Nintendo for that,outside of Bayonetta 2 very little is known about system future.
It's mostly hubris, I think. They're still in that line of thinking where they assume all they have to do is release a new system, spread their hands, and go TA-DA! and all the major news networks will do their marketing for them.
In Europe they will sell a Wii U Additional Remote Set that contains a Wiimote+, a Nunchuk, and a sensor bar. The new Wii U sensor bar isn't compatible with Wiimotes. Why? Because Nintendo.
:lol
Blame Nintendo for that,outside of Bayonetta 2 very little is known about system future.
3D Mario game, Metroid game, shitty 3D Zelda game, Animal Crossing, Pokemon spinoff, Fire Emblem, and a whole lot of 360/PS3 ports.
This launch feels like Nintendo is launching something because they have to,not because they want to.
Wii Sports was a killer app though, something new that captured the imagination of many people around the world. I'm not arguening its merits just saying.
Nintendoland is just another party game. Nothing new. No causal is gonna drop 300 to play this.
Yes, and yes. They even include an HDMI cable in the box. It does not upscale Wii games, and you cannot use the new tablet or pro controllers on Wii games.
Not only does it not upscale Wii games, but you have to download and run the "Wii Channel" to bring up an emulated(?) version of the Wii's own menus/channel system to run games in glorious 480i/480p.In Europe they will sell a Wii U Additional Remote Set that contains a Wiimote+, a Nunchuk, and a sensor bar. The new Wii U sensor bar isn't compatible with Wiimotes. Why? Because Nintendo.
:lol
Can the Sensor Bar built into the Wii U GamePad be used instead of a standard Sensor Bar?http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=499370
It cannot. The Sensor Bar in the GamePad is for use only in software specifically built to make use of it, of which there are none as of December 8th, 2012 (launch date in Japan).
Fucking cheapskates. First, no AC adapter with the 3DS and now this. Not everyone in Europe is a devoted Nintendo fan that buys all of their products.
3DS doesn't come with a charger? How do you charge it?You can't unless you buy an AC adapter for it (it being the 3DSXL version). Nintendo assumed everyone already owned an original 3DS, a DSi XL, or a DSi. The slightly older DS Lite model, which I own, uses another type of charger. In Japan it also wasn't included.
Dear LazyBore,
Does the Wii U use HDMI, and is there any backward compatibility with original Wii titles?
I have a friend who wants to buy one and ditch his Wii, and was surprised that I know nearly dick-all about the Wii U.
Thanks!
Señor Chronovoro
3DS doesn't come with a charger? How do you charge it?You can't unless you buy an AC adapter for it (it being the 3DSXL version). Nintendo assumed everyone already owned an original 3DS, a DSi XL, or a DSi. The slightly older DS Lite model, which I own, uses another type of charger. In Japan it also wasn't included.
It seems more likely that the Wii U doesn't support standard Wiimotes in order to force Wiimote+ usage rather than the bar being an issue...
Well, I guess Andy hung himself.(http://i.minus.com/iqCVjtbPtWhpu.gif)
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Finally came to my senses. Pre-order cancelled. Definitely interested in a bunch of titles for this thing but I'll be grabbing it later
You *will* go to a Best Buy on Sunday and buy one.
Succumb to the hype.
Yes, and yes. They even include an HDMI cable in the box. It does not upscale Wii games, and you cannot use the new tablet or pro controllers on Wii games.
Not only does it not upscale Wii games, but you have to download and run the "Wii Channel" to bring up an emulated(?) version of the Wii's own menus/channel system to run games in glorious 480i/480p.
Few more days unit Nintendo fans get hit by reality hammer,woohoo
I am not buying Wii U. Why buy it when Wii U games will run on Dolphin soon and look 10x better anyway?
Finally came to my senses. Pre-order cancelled. Definitely interested in a bunch of titles for this thing but I'll be grabbing it later
IGN's NG3: Razor's Edge review:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/11/13/ninja-gaiden-3-razors-edge-review
7.6
I give this review a 4.2/10.6:
- completely noncommittal review
- the reviewer says nothing about game balance except "it's harder."
- Does not actually get into the fighting engine mechanics at all because he's afraid of alienating Average Joe Bestbuy, even though those mechanics make or break the game for people whether they know it or not
- basically just describes what's in the game and seems to like it better than the PS3/360 release.
+ Does mention that the graphics would've been called out even 7 years ago at the 360's launch
Why did anyone expect Razor's Edge to be good after NG3 turned out to be shit? ??? I think DOA5 turned out OK, but post-Itagaki Team Ninja needs to hand off Ninja Gaiden to someone else.
But hey! Warriors Orochi 3 Hyper adds Rachel and Momoji in addition to Ryu Hayabusa and Ayane. Get your Gaiden on in that game instead...
...at 30 FPS on Wii U versus 60 FPS on PS3 and 360. :lol
The writer of that article is a fucking prophetic genius :lol :lol :lol
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we're off to a good start
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we're off to a good start
that can't be real :o
NG3 was a steaming pile of grade A horseshit and its even worse now? LOL
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we're off to a good start
that can't be real :o
NG3 was a steaming pile of grade A horseshit and its even worse now? LOL
Finally came to my senses. Pre-order cancelled. Definitely interested in a bunch of titles for this thing but I'll be grabbing it later
You *will* go to a Best Buy on Sunday and buy one.
Succumb to the hype.
Nintendo Wii U Will Sell Out, Sell Faster Than Wii
The Nintendo Wii U
Nintendo had a smash hit on its hands when it released the Wii game console back in 2006. Now it’s getting ready to release a long-awaited followup, and analysts say the new hardware will sell even faster.
A research report published Monday by IHS Screen Digest predicts that the new Nintendo Wii U console will sell 3.5 million units worldwide between its November 18th release and the end of December 2012. That’s 12% more than the 3.1 million Wii consoles Nintendo moved during a similar sales period in 2006.
“Pent-up demand from Nintendo evangelists, many of which were introduced to the console market through the success of the Wii, is predicted to drive this explosive start,” according to the report.
IHS says Wii U’s will fly off the shelves so quickly that there will be supply shortages over the holiday shopping season, and many consumers will have to wait until after the new year until they can find the console in stores.QuoteNintendo investors shouldn’t get too excited, though: IHS forecasts that after the stellar start, Wii U sales will slow, and the new console will only reach around 70% of the Wii’s sales volume in the first four years after release. The Wii moved 75.9 million units during that period, while IHS forecasts Wii U sales around 53.2 million units.
“This time around, Wii U’s pure innovation, coupled with a limited volume of high-quality Nintendo software, will not be enough to drive the ongoing sales momentum we witnessed with the Wii console, especially at a higher price point,” said Piers Harding-Rolls, senior principal analyst and head of games at IHS, in a statement. “Long-term success depends on ongoing consumer engagement delivered through the constant release of high-quality content from both first and third parties, a competitive non-games entertainment proposition and a sound digital and online strategy to go along with such innovation. Nintendo is still some way short of delivering a comprehensive engagement-led value proposition at the launch of the Wii U.”
The Wii U will be released in two configurations: A $299.99 basic set; which contains the console (with 8 GB of memory), cables, and the touch-screen Wii U gamepad, all in white; or a $349.99 deluxe set, all in black, which also comes with a stand for the console, a charging cradle for the game pad, and a copy of the new game NintendoLand.
The family-friendly, motion-sensitive Wii is far and away the leader of the current console generation, with nearly 100 million units sold worldwide –about thirty million more than either of its competitors, Microsoft’s Xbox 360 and Sony’s PlayStation 3.
Microsoft and Sony are expected to announce their new video game consoles sometime in 2013. When those devices hit the market, they are likely to take a huge bite out of Wii U sales as well.
It's going to sell more when there's no must have title right away or on the immediate horizon for the masses, sure.
Overall, Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge is the DEFINITIVE version... especially using the graphical power and unique playability of the Wii U.
TonyKanameKuran 7 hours ago 17
The faithful are out in full force.QuoteOverall, Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge is the DEFINITIVE version... especially using the graphical power and unique playability of the Wii U.
TonyKanameKuran 7 hours ago 17
"Unique playability" = "tap a touchscreen"
"graphical power" = "looks like a 360 launch title"
Shouldn't this be more...impressive? Not seeing a huge difference here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n078vT5Yj9A
Shouldn't this be more...impressive? Not seeing a huge difference here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n078vT5Yj9A
3) animation is a LOT smoother and of course the higher resolutions gives it a significantly cleaner look.
Should I be ashamed of myself that I don't have a Wii U pre-order?
Parental Controls
- Nintendo realizes that some parents may fear that their children may use the Wii U's internet functionality without permission. Wii U has Parental Controls.
- Can restrict content based on user age, CERO (Japan ESRB) rating, internet functionality, internet browser, e-Shop spending, Miiverse functionality, friend registrations, videos, data management, internet settings
- Wii U keyboard input can save user input habits and predictive input in a specific database that depends on the game and user. Wii U does not save input data that you don't want other users to know into the database.
- Miiverse settings can be turned on/off depending on the save profiles per game.
USB Data Storage
- 8GB = 7.2GB, 32GB = 29GB in terms of actual save data. Wii U uses around 4.2GB when using the system for the first time.
- NSMBU is ~2GB, Nintendo Land is ~3.2GB. So, both won't fit into the Basic set at the same time.
- Wii U lets you put data onto a connected USB media drive.
- One USB drive at a time only.
- Cannot disconnect the external drive while plugged into the Wii U and receiving power.
- You can use general drives.
- In terms of powering the HDD while connecting to the Wii U, if you do not use a Y Cable Type drive (2 USB cables), then Nintendo cannot guarantee it will work properly.
- Nintendo can guarantee functionality if the HDD plugs into a power outlet.
- No games on USB Flash Memory due to games not running properly all the time (whatever this means...)
- Wii U will read up to 2TB only for external hard drives
- In Data Management, you must format the connected media drive. Note that this means you cannot use the drive with a PC.
- You can move data from internal Wii U storage to external USB media in Data Management and vice versa. Data on both internal and external media will appear in the menu.
- At launch, only 1 USB hard drive can be connected, but through a future update, more than 1 will be possible and you will be able to move data between them freely.
- SD Cards can hold PC data, Wii Virtual Console, Wii Ware, and Wii save data, but cannot be used to save Wii U game save data.
Backwards Compatibility
- Wii games, Virtual Console, Wii Ware stuff cannot be played using the GamePad screen, but only on the TV in Wii Mode
- Iwata: "We understand that there are people who were looking forward to playing Wii games, Virtual Console games, and so forth on the GamePad, but unfortunately we cannot accommodate those users' expectations."
- There are plans for a Wii U Virtual Console that WILL be compatible with the Wii U GamePad. Please look forward to it in the future.
Nintendo Network Premium
- For Premium Set buyers only
- Point service
- Make Nintendo Network ID, then login to find and user the service
- After logging in, you can see the points you have earned
- Buy with download card or download number
- Earn 10% back on purchases
- Earn back purchase points in ¥500 increments
- Points earned can be used with Wii U/3DS e-Shop, Wii Shopping Channel, DSi Shop
That might be the case for the US and the UK. It's nowhere near sold out in Sweden.
Shouldn't this be more...impressive? Not seeing a huge difference here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n078vT5Yj9A
So other than the fact that it isn't a huge leap graphically, it's also essentially the same game?
- Iwata: "We understand that there are people who were looking forward to playing Wii games, Virtual Console games, and so forth on the GamePad, but unfortunately we cannot accommodate those users' expectations."
- There are plans for a Wii U Virtual Console that WILL be compatible with the Wii U GamePad. Please look forward to it in the future.
I dont understand how they cannot accomodate such basic shit as playing 25 year old roms on the gamepad.
Truly a company run by monkeys.
I dont understand how they cannot accomodate such basic shit as playing 25 year old roms on the gamepad.
Truly a company run by monkeys.
It isn't that they can't, the issue is that they won't.
Nintendo is extremely lazy. They're just not giving much of a shit at a time where they really need to.
Being able to play all this shit on the couch could actually be a system seller, if you could play EVERYTHING on the couch or tv.
WiiU should have had full tablet funcionality, browsing, apps etc. Plus controls, plus being able to play all games on it. That would have been something casuals could have related too.
but nooooooooooooooooooo
Being able to play all this shit on the couch could actually be a system seller, if you could play EVERYTHING on the couch or tv.
WiiU should have had full tablet funcionality, browsing, apps etc. Plus controls, plus being able to play all games on it. That would have been something casuals could have related too.
but nooooooooooooooooooo
Wii U should have just been a (gaming) tablet that could also be hooked up to a TV.
Wait, is the Wii U tablet controller usable as a controller for legacy Wii games in the first place? Can it be mapped as a classic controller?No, and no. At least not with the current firmware.
Wait, is the Wii U tablet controller usable as a controller for legacy Wii games in the first place? Can it be mapped as a classic controller?No, and no. At least not with the current firmware.
Yes, if you want to play games on your Wii U, you'll need:
- uPad
- Nintendo 360 Controller
- Wiimote
- Nunchuck
- Classic Controller
Nintendo Land was supposed to be the Wii Sports of the console: a showcase title that converted gamers and non-gamers alike to the Wii U experience. Instead, Nintendo Land is this generation's Wii Play: a shallow collection of mini-games bundled with Nintendo hardware--and promptly forgotten.
Shacknews:QuoteNintendo Land was supposed to be the Wii Sports of the console: a showcase title that converted gamers and non-gamers alike to the Wii U experience. Instead, Nintendo Land is this generation's Wii Play: a shallow collection of mini-games bundled with Nintendo hardware--and promptly forgotten.
In other words, exactly what we thought it was.
:lol
Is that on GAF yet?
I think Sony should go for same power level as Wii U, or slight bit faster.
That will give MS the odd out if they still stick with 12 to 16 cores CPU plan. We have see the major odd out in the past of the gens and all has difficult time.
People identify with bowling
People do not identify with Popomaru's Ninja Castle
:lol
Is that on GAF yet?
Yeah, it came from this thread:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=499916&page=4
One of the biggest problems with Nintendo's original Wii was its low software tie ratio. Nintendo may have expanded its audience far beyond a typical video game console owner with demographic barrier-destroying games like Wii Sports and Wii Fit, but the problem was, a lot of those customers never bothered to buy more games.
It's too early to tell whether that situation is going to change with the Wii U, but at the very least, things are looking good prior to this Sunday's launch.
GameStop reports that it's currently sitting on 1.2 million preorders for Wii U games on top of the 500,000 consoles it was allocated (all of which were almost immediately reserved when they went up for preorder back in September).
That's a tie ratio of 2.4 games for every console, which the company says is more than double what it saw leading up to the launch of the original Wii.
This is certainly attributable to a much stronger third-party lineup this time around. The company says preorders were led by (in no particular order, we imagine) Ubisoft's Zombie U and Assassin's Creed 3, Activision's Call of Duty: Black Ops II, Warner Bros.' Scribblenauts Unlimited, and Nintendo's New Super Mario Bros. U.
By comparison, the original Wii's strongest launch title (not including the packed-in Wii Sports) was The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess. Third-party support included titles like Rayman: Raving Rabbids and Red Steel.
IGN – 8.7 (Great)
Nintendo Land is a brilliant show of what Nintendo’s new console and tablet controller are capable of, and has far more depth and content then you’d expect from a mini-game collection. The attractions are ridiculously fun and offer plenty of variety, whether you’re flying solo or entertaining a group.
Throw in high scores to best, gold trophies to earn, stamp achievements to collect and tons of Plaza decorations to unlock, and what you’ve got is an experience that must not be missed, and probably the best show of Wii U available at launch.
Without question, it has a few issues. This version of ME3 seems a lot less visually stable than, say, the Xbox 360 version -- the frame rate is choppier, the animation seems rougher. The audio suffers, too; while the music and sound effects have come over fine, all the dialogue has a hollow, echoing quality to it. The GamePad's analog sticks aren't as comfortable as the 360's, and the placement of the face buttons relative to the right stick made me continually miss the melee and reload buttons. My headshot ratio has dropped precipitously. It's tragic.
Now, the Wii U Controller Pro rectifies some of these control issues -- it's pretty much a 360 controller, and it works great. But the problem there is that you lose the GamePad features if you use the Pro, and the GamePad is actually used pretty well here. By default, it serves as a quick skill-select menu or live map display (yes, just like a DS game), and the developers have added some neat details -- for instance, during the prologue sequence, the map display breaks up and distorts momentarily whenever a Reaver in the distance fires an energy blast. There was some actual thought put into this port, which is always nice to see.
The real advantage to the GamePad, however, is the fact that the game looks much better on its smaller screen. I don't know if it's the flaws being obscured by the pad's screen when they're shown more clearly on the higher-performance LCD of an HDTV, or if it's simply a benefit of the pad's lower resolution requiring the system to render fewer polygons, but the game plays noticeably smoother on the GamePad screen. The stiffness of the characters doesn't come across as readily, and the compactness of the visuals makes the environments seem far more beautiful and detailed.
Another trade-off: The Wii U version comes with all the collector's edition exclusive content on-disc already (though not high-end DLC like Leviathan), but much of the subtlety of the game is lost due to the lack of support for Mass Effect 1 and 2 save files. The game kicks off with a 20-minute digital comic that allows you to make key choices to shape the plot, just like the PlayStation 3 version of Mass Effect 2, but the most interesting moments in ME3 came as outcomes of smaller choices that aren't included in this prologue. So while you'll still shape the outcome of, say, Tali's major plot arc, you'll never know the pleasure of helping Conrad Verner find true happiness.
As Nintendo themselves noted earlier today, the system update required to deal with DLC will be added in December. Thus, the Wii U, as of this time, does not support DLC.
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
What on God's green earth? It's fucking 2012, how is that not something that can be done at launch?
As Nintendo themselves noted earlier today, the system update required to deal with DLC will be added in December. Thus, the Wii U, as of this time, does not support DLC.
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
What on God's green earth? It's fucking 2012, how is that not something that can be done at launch?
Dunno if I can get one Sunday. Didn't get a preorder.
Guess I could cruise Craigslist.
http://www.ustream.tv/gametrailers
live stream of WiiU.
No MP3 or photo viewing :lol
Dunno if I can get one Sunday. Didn't get a preorder.
Guess I could cruise Craigslist.
I thought you had 3 pre orders?
Related, Monster Hunter 3 comparison pics from 3DS and Wii-U:
http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/561/561294/#eid561301
So should I craigslist this bitch or open it up come sunday morning? The wii is going on 3 years of dust gathering.
So should I craigslist this bitch or open it up come sunday morning? The wii is going on 3 years of dust gathering.
So should I craigslist this bitch or open it up come sunday morning? The wii is going on 3 years of dust gathering.
So should I craigslist this bitch or open it up come sunday morning? The wii is going on 3 years of dust gathering.
I'm having this same conflict. Y'all be speaking like it's low stock so I haven't outright canceled my preorder. But I'm not eager to use it until, uh, 2013 or whenever Wonderful 101 comes out.
I'm sure the launch lineup will be more than delightful for anyone who managed to skip the last six to seven years of Hollywood gaming
BUT ALL THE WEAPONS ARE THERE! ON THE DISK! MORE THAN ONE NIPPO! YOU CAN PLAY THE GIRL!!!
look who's back
No it doesn't, Itagaki doesn't even have a Nintendo fanbase. Stop talking about shit you don't understand. It's like listening to a virgin talk about how great sex is.
Because Bayo 2 was a one in a million chance with low probability, and Devil's Third being wii u exclusive is an already low probable statistic. Because Bayo 2 is being published by Nintendo, doesn't raise Devil's Third wii u exclusivity in any way; it's still so low that it's pointless to even consider it. It's like saying just because Colorado and Washington passed weed legalization, it immediately means weed will be legal in all 50 states within the end of the year. It's not happening, despite such a low statistical and historical occurrence taking place.
Remember when people said that about wii? "Wii is the number one console in terms of sales. It will have all the jrpgs."
Remember when that happened?
Hell, we extend that even further. Remember when people said that about ps3? Because OH, it's the hd console lead in Japan, so of course it'll have all the jrpgs! Remember when people said that about 360? OH, Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey and Tales of Vesperia, game over ps3! Then nothing. Meanwhile, there are maybe 5 worthwhile jrpgs this entire console generation.
Buying a console for hopes and what "seems" to be true is stupid. Buy only for what it is, what it represents, or what games are coming to its shores. Never buy a console based around hope. The Wii should have taught you that, sir, if you were anything like me.
The Wii U version also offers excellent graphics and motion controls, but exhibits some slowdown at times..
Wii U lacks of analog triggers a really big deal for you too?
can everyone now understand why the fuckers who bullshitted gaf for 18 months about the machine being some secret beast BAILED THE FUCK OUT with a few weeks to go? OH YEAH I HAVE STUFF TO DO AND SHIT OH PLEASE ENJOY!
Fucking riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
Not at all. Digital > analog in most scenarios.
GAF mods should have banned these "industry insiders" after Johnny Nightfraud. I suppose the powers that be may have just snickered at how gullible the GAF masses are for falling for total bullshit but naive 12 year olds like Andrex fell for it hook, line, and sinker. I'd be pissed if I were them.
Really? Link?
can everyone now understand why the fuckers who bullshitted gaf for 18 months about the machine being some secret beast BAILED THE FUCK OUT with a few weeks to go? OH YEAH I HAVE STUFF TO DO AND SHIT OH PLEASE ENJOY!
Fucking riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
Really? Link?
Flintstendo's
I must have missed something, WiiU doesn't have analog triggers?
the reaction to the trigger news is hilarious
MOTHERSHIP----->PEONS---->INTERNET
Grow a fucking brain and a pair of balls , you mindless cocksucking sheeplets.
Never mind, something for Nintendo to add with the Wii3 - then it can be the new hotness we enjoyed in 2006.
theres some top level drones going on about how they HATE analog triggers - fucking cocklords.
Nope, and I'm not sure why it's surprising. Does any Nintendo system use analog buttons? I doubt I'll use the system for any racing games, so it's not a problem for me.
Remember when people said that about wii? "Wii is the number one console in terms of sales. It will have all the jrpgs."
Remember when that happened?
Hell, we extend that even further. Remember when people said that about ps3? Because OH, it's the hd console lead in Japan, so of course it'll have all the jrpgs! Remember when people said that about 360? OH, Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey and Tales of Vesperia, game over ps3! Then nothing. Meanwhile, there are maybe 5 worthwhile jrpgs this entire console generation.
Buying a console for hopes and what "seems" to be true is stupid. Buy only for what it is, what it represents, or what games are coming to its shores. Never buy a console based around hope. The Wii should have taught you that, sir, if you were anything like me.
Huh, sounds like ZOMBU is the Wii U equivalent of Red Steel
Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 are proof that Nintendo can kick ass if they want to.
Both Galaxy games are vastly overrated. Especially 2.
SMB3 and Super Mario 64 were far better, especially SMB3. The way some people talk about the Galaxy games is as if it's the most amazing shit ever when it's not.
I thought digital triggers were confirmed ages ago ???
As long as Mario 64 is the only game in the franchise you can do a Richter-ass sliding kick attack, it will never be trumped by another Mario game. Get out of here with this notion of "aging". It looks like blocky shit and always did, but the mechanics and controls don't get better than Mario 64 (given that you have a tight analog stick on your controller).
Andy, I'm just curious why you think all of these jank ass design choices are acceptable. Other than, you know, "because Nintendo"
I agree with you about SMG 1/2. Ruzbeh is an autistic lunatic, pay him no mind.
Mario 64/Sunshine and the Galaxy games are really different, especially Galaxy 2. I can see preferring them if you're into exploring levels and figuring out the obtuse objectives. There's also a bit of revisionism about Mario 64 after the speed runs became popular. Some people forget the context of its release; both the good and bad of it. And 3D Land is closest a 3D Mario felt like a 2D Mario.
And I wouldn't say Mario 64 has good controls, but I liked how much control it gave you over Mario. Galaxy and 3D Land dial it down to the essentials. Mario 64 let you do useless moves like the spin kick. There's a charm to early 3D games when they were still figuring out.
Heading to BB around 6. If there's no line I'll get dinner or something, if there is one I guess I'll quickly get something to eat...
Which design choices?
Which design choices?
How about not having a unified Nintendo account?
How is that different from the previous Games for Windows Live?It's built in. Everyone can access it right from the start and there is no need for bloated software that never gets updated.
Dear LazyBore,
Does the Wii U use HDMI, and is there any backward compatibility with original Wii titles?
I have a friend who wants to buy one and ditch his Wii, and was surprised that I know nearly dick-all about the Wii U.
Thanks!
Señor Chronovoro
Yes, and yes. They even include an HDMI cable in the box. It does not upscale Wii games, and you cannot use the new tablet or pro controllers on Wii games.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkaYNtD55-I
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gross
I mean doing things like this:You want 3DS games playable... on Wii U?
http://gengame.net/2012/11/wii-u-eshop-game-downloads-can-only-be-played-on-the-original-system-cant-be-saved-to-sd/
And not letting you playing digital versions of 3DS/DS games on the tablet.
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Wtf am I looking at here
If it's a fucktarded decision by Nintendo, you can bet it will be brought up over and over again because it's hilarious.
System update is live!
http://www.own3d.tv/messaffect/live/400562
40 minutes and not even half,guy has 35Mbps download
I mean doing things like this:You want 3DS games playable... on Wii U?
http://gengame.net/2012/11/wii-u-eshop-game-downloads-can-only-be-played-on-the-original-system-cant-be-saved-to-sd/
And not letting you playing digital versions of 3DS/DS games on the tablet.
It's nice to want things.
I can't believe people are getting perma banned from twitch for streaming a console and games they already own. What kinda bullshit is that?
I have a feeling reviewers like games that are simple and easy cause their jobs suck and are kinda sick of videogames and don't want to dedicate the time it takes to 'get' a game.I've done some reviews for extremegamer.ca and sometimes you get games in genres thrown at you that you've never even thought of playing before. With tight deadlines there's no time to put 300 hours into a game and master it. That's just how it works.
>> Giant Bomb
>> Wii U
>> Giant Bomb
>> Wii U
15 seconds to load the system settings :lol
Streaming dude is registering/creating user IDs like crazy
Wario64 bye bye
:lol
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Streaming dude is registering/creating user IDs like crazy
Wario64 bye bye
:lol
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where are yal getting these photos from?
wait... you can create as many mii's as you want and give them all names and nobody else can use those names?
nintendo.
Vita had a better launch library lol- and that was the VITA
15 seconds to load the system settings :lol
It's unfortunate but it looks like the holiday deadline forced them to release the system with a half baked firmware.
Barkham up the wrong tree
At least for one year, a Nintendo system now stands on equal footing with other leading consoles, and Batman: Arkham City Armored Edition exists to hammer that point home. One of the most critically acclaimed action titles on PC, Xbox 360, and PS3, Arkham City is now available on the Wii U, and it looks right at home.
That's all it needed to do, really. What it didn't need was GamePad-specific features shoehorned into itself with no benefit granted to the end user. Sadly, it seems not even the Dark Knight can resist the lure of tech demo chicanery.
The Armored Edition gets its name from new combat suits worn by both Batman and Catwoman, suits that build kinetic energy as either playable protagonist successfully lands attacks on the mooks of Gotham. When the energy icon is full, tapping it on the touchscreen grants the player faster reflexes and extra attack power to finish fights more quickly.
It's strange that this feature was not only added, but had the game named after it, since it really isn't a unique or interesting addition. It's not a bad addition, but I can't say I'm grateful for it either. It's just there, and tapping the icon to get a bit of a boost is no different from pretty much any action game with any sort of special power meter. I'm confused as to why this is seen as such a big deal, but at the very least, I can say that it's inoffensive.
The other new changes, however, are a bit less subtle and much less welcome as far as this reviewer's concerned. Outside of general gameplay and combat, Armored Edition makes heavy use of the GamePad's touchscreen to the point of saturation. All in-game menu items, from map usage to leveling up to selecting gadgets, are done on the GamePad itself, and much of it feels like an unnecessary hassle. Leveling up Batman's gear is particularly irritating, as you now have to swipe your way through unresponsive rows of tiny icons and unintuitive screens. Unlike with my previous playthroughs of the game, I've found myself not immediately going into the WayneTech menu to upgrade, because I simply can't be bothered to fiddle with the menus.
Gadgets themselves also insist on using the touchscreen, with the biggest offender being the hacking device. Whereas before, you'd rotated the analog sticks (or press keyboard keys) to solve puzzles, you now have to open up a whole new hacking minigame where you trace your finger on the touchscreen to find the right hotspot while avoiding a red line that intermittently sweeps past. I used to like how quick and efficient hacking was in Arkham City, bypassing the flow-breakage of dreary door-opening minigames found in other titles, but Armored Edition has spoiled that.
Another issue is the gyroscope being used to aim Batarangs and the Batclaw. You can use the right stick to aim, but the gyroscope still registers and can throw the reticule off slightly. The remote Batarangs are also controlled via the GamePad screen, and again can be steered using motion or stick input, with similar conflicts. These issues are tiny, never really getting too much in the way, but they help hammer home just how much was changed simply for the sake of change, regardless of whether or not it improved the game.
Batman: Arkham City Armored Edition fails to ruin what still is an admirable game, but there's no skipping around the issue of elements being forced in and serving only to render it inferior, making previously simple functions more complicated than they should be and dragging down the game's pace. While still a very good game at its core, this is not as good as the original, purer release. There's no shame in a Wii U title that doesn't shoehorn Wii U features into itself, and if the game would be better off without them, I'd really rather that be the route taken.
Read more at http://www.destructoid.com/review-batman-arkham-city-armored-edition-238794.phtml#0yssoZMAqRYUA6tX.99
For those who played through Batman: Arkham City in 2011, the Armored Edition doesn't offer much in the way of incentives -- by and large, this is the same top-notch action/adventure game Rocksteady released last year. The new BAT mode gives you an additional combat option, but it's both unoriginal and ineffective. You'll charge a meter, activate BAT mode, and become mildly stronger in a fight. The inclusion of the Harley Quinn's Revenge expansion, Robin and Nightwing's challenge rooms, and character skins goes a long way to lengthen the experience, but the Wii U Game Pad functionality is clearly a consequence of launch-title experimentation. Arkham City looks and plays just as excellent as always on the Game Pad screen, but when it's used for touch-screen weapon selection, or as an in-game gadget, the Game Pad is just awkward. Moving the real-world object to look for in-game objects is a chore, and better left to the analog sticks. Glancing at the Game Pad to see your sonar radar is the best usage, really, but even then it's unexciting and not as helpful as simply absorbing yourself in the game proper.
He's not even the first, so he failed his quest.
Also ZombiU reviews are embargoed until 12pm EDT. Now, would a company do this for a good game? I wonder...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wSG2BGe3_c
System reviews are up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QCKkznwlvA
$150
That's when I bite.
$150
That's when I bite.
Guessing I'll have one of these in ~9 hours. Figure I'll pay someone to kick me in the balls before I come home. Maybe get lunch at Arby's. Round out the day by buying some THQ stock. In for the full experience.
yikes zombiu (:-\)
yikes at reviewers calling the wii u ports of old 360/PS3 games inferior
yikes at day one patch for super mario bros
yikes at the day one firmware upgrade weighing in at 5 gigs
edit: yikes at bricking the wii u if you lose power during the firmware upgrade
$150
That's when I bite.
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:geoff :geoff :geoff
In that Verge review it says that games can't be run from external storage. Is that true? That sounds incorrect. If it is true, then what's the point of even hooking up an external HDD?
In that Verge review it says that games can't be run from external storage. Is that true? That sounds incorrect. If it is true, then what's the point of even hooking up an external HDD?
I think they can't run from SD cards.
Nintendo removed this message for "Violent Content"
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http://www.destructoid.com/how-moderated-is-miiverse-it-s-a-damn-police-state--238871.phtml
That's no patch... it's a Space Station!
In that Verge review it says that games can't be run from external storage. Is that true? That sounds incorrect. If it is true, then what's the point of even hooking up an external HDD?
Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two does nothing to improve itself over its predecessor, repeating old ideas while refusing to fix problems that are glaringly obvious to even the least tasteful of dolts. Anything added in the sequel has been done so to the its overall detriment -- the voice acting grates, the musical pretensions are vapid, and the cooperative schtick is corny, strained, and a total intrusion for solo play that slows progress, causes trouble, and does not bloody work.
At least Epic Mickey felt fresh enough that some of its faults could be overlooked by the more forgiving of players. The Power of Two has no such charm to hide behind. It's a gormless, chafing, unquestionably horrid little waste of time. Only the hardcore Disney obsessive need look into this one, and I don't advice they look too deeply.
Read more at http://www.destructoid.com/review-disney-epic-mickey-2-the-power-of-two-238026.phtml#IgbQT4xLOPVWL0Uy.99
:drudge :drudge :drudge
Wii Teardown
http://www.twitch.tv/pcper
:drudge :drudge :drudge
Wii Teardown
http://www.twitch.tv/pcper
Are they revealing the specs?
Odd that Panasonic is making the drive and the disc tech. I thought they were a dead company.Not surprising, really.
Edit: As a cost-cutting measure, wouldn't it be funny if Nintendo was having users seed the update after they downloaded it?
ZOMG THIS IS SO DELICIOUS
I missed the important part of the live teardown. What did they say about the CPU and the GPU?
Nothing wrong with DDR3,if system has decent amount of edram
"Can't believe you are taking the usernames... people like you are the reason Nintendo used friend codes."
Gaf already defending the shitty specs
ust a few random notes, seems like Wii U has a nice internal scaler like Xbox 360, NSMBU upscaled to 1080p as did the Wii mode, RE4 WE looked pretty good. Obviously not native, but a nice feature if your HDTV likes 1080p sources like mine does :)
Good newsQuoteust a few random notes, seems like Wii U has a nice internal scaler like Xbox 360, NSMBU upscaled to 1080p as did the Wii mode, RE4 WE looked pretty good. Obviously not native, but a nice feature if your HDTV likes 1080p sources like mine does :)
360 gpu is doing the scaling btw,360 has no extra scaler
I don't think that will do any difference for me. My TV can upscale a 480p signal and it's not like the internal Wii U scaler is enhancing the image or anything.Some TVs have shitty scalers so having your console do the upscaling can be a plus in some cases.
This scene is actually pre-rendered on PS360.
$150
That's when I bite.
When there's 3 games I want to play, I'll steal my nephew's for a week or two, gamefly the games and then be done with it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjPBiZ9JSzQ
Looks very clean but the framerate is kind of sloppy. You can see stuttering especially when turning around.
"The Wii had bad graphics, but now with WiiU we can play HD just like everyone else on 360!!" thats some stockholm syndrome bullshit. You could have bought a 360 like 7 years ago you massive, massive tool :lolhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjPBiZ9JSzQ
Looks very clean but the framerate is kind of sloppy. You can see stuttering especially when turning around.
It's cool that the wii pointer controls aren't going away but yikes at the commentary. Wii version sounds like third world gaming. Killcams are a revelation.
Completed ZombieU 100%, now I'm about halfway through NSMBU.
Holy ****ing ****, I've never been more impressed with a system in my 30+ years of gaming. This is the first time I've been able to game in HD (never touched any Sony or Microsoft crap), and My God the graphics are amazing. I did break down a little bit when I finally got to see Mario in full HD. We've come a long way since the NES days.
(http://i.minus.com/i58lkHeCQP1I4.jpg)Can it be replaced, I wonder.
if you were wondering why it has a 3 hour battery life
zombie bomb 6.5 from IGN :lol :lol
:lol
Maybe it is really a game you must "get" like Day Z for example but the amount of vile, blind defense ninfags show when talking about its reviews should be a warning sign to everyone.
zombie bomb 6.5 from IGN :lol :lol
:lol
Maybe it is really a game you must "get" like Day Z for example but the amount of vile, blind defense ninfags show when talking about its reviews should be a warning sign to everyone.
Is anyone here actually buying one today?
Is anyone here actually buying one today?
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:bow
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:bow
Can someone explain to me exactly what this is
I liked Nintendo better when they were last place sales wise and made good games and consoles.
It's so god damn appalling that the company can have first place, have games that sell 15 million copies yet they can't produce a single game with some production values, even for the release of their most successful home console in 15 years.
Bloody WiiU should come out with a 50 million dollar version of Zelda.
I'm celebrating my Weeoo launch day by playing Dishonored, drinking good ass coffee, and listening to the crackles of a roaring fire in the fireplace, whilst giggling at this thread. Perfect Sunday
Wii U isn't gonna bomb. It's the next big thing.
Watch the others totally copy the gamepad next year's E3.
Wii U isn't gonna bomb. It's the next big thing.
Watch the others totally copy the gamepad next year's E3.
meh it has maybe 1/10 of the hype the original Wii had. Probably the least hyped nintendo console.
Wii U isn't gonna bomb. It's the next big thing.
Watch the others totally copy the gamepad next year's E3.
Wii U isn't gonna bomb. It's the next big thing.
Watch the others totally copy the gamepad next year's E3.
Don't get me wrong. The idea of wii u is money. But the actual system is half assed. You think consumers who all use smart phones and tablets and touch devices are not going to think wii u is shit and that they have better alternatives?
When I saw it in stores the system looked huge, but it's not bad. Like 75% the size of a launch 360. It's also better at attracting dust than the launch PS3. Don't mean that as a joke; it's just the cheapish glossy plastic or something that's doing it.
The TV remote functionality is really basic. It's just input, volume, and channel. People were playing this up to be like a universal remote. At least a Wide to 4:3 button would've been helpful.
Right now it's updating. I take back the bad things I've said about the PS3's download speeds.
Um, the gamepad controls all feel good. Nintendo is hit or miss about this stuff, but the D-pad are quality. For some reason the gamepad cradle has wheels on the inside. You can slide it out the side if you're too lazy to lift it straight up (???).
uh, it's quiet. No component/composite cable included; only HDMI (but it seems to use the same cable as the Wii). No ethernet port. Same sensor bar as before but no bar stand that came with the Wii.
and
...I've made a huge mistake
Not to mention Nintendo is ready starting to create brand fatigue. I wonder how well Mario will sell? He is their only major player now and they are coasting on his icon.
This live stream is hysterical. They can't even fucking connect the thing to the wifi.
CPU - slower than 360
RAM - slower than 360
GPU - ???
Any news on the GPU side?
Went to play NSMBU, there was an update... Day 1 system update for a Mario game. Truly we're living in the future now. On the other hand, using the web browser while the game is suspended is silky smooth and will come in handy for tips and stuff.
Mario actually looks pretty good, the style is still the plasticky junk but it's very clean, very good IQ.
Also the system said I got a "friend request." :o :hyperCPU - slower than 360
RAM - slower than 360
GPU - ???
Any news on the GPU side?
This is the first I've heard of RAM speed being a talking point of all things. Wii U has double what the 360 has, quadruple if you count the other half for system stuff that will probably be freed up to devs over time.
Are you ignoring the numbers posted earlier in this thread that it is indeed weaker than a console released in 2005?
I dont system OS ram can be freed up though.
Are you ignoring the numbers posted earlier in this thread that it is indeed weaker than a console released in 2005?
WiiU
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360
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Prole comment needed
These type of comparisons are stupid because they have different architectures. The xbox had a 32 bit processor while N64 had a 64 bit one. That didn't mean shit.
This live stream is hysterical. They can't even fucking connect the thing to the wifi.
Now I can finally experience how Wii would have been if Nintendo would have made it equally powerful as its competitors.
Are you ignoring the numbers posted earlier in this thread that it is indeed weaker than a console released in 2005?
These type of comparisons are stupid because they have different architectures. The xbox had a 32 bit processor while N64 had a 64 bit one. That didn't mean shit.
I'm just in awe tha people are excited over these ports of Batman, AC3, BLOPS, Mass Effect... etc
Really? Is this just some launch window syndrome?
I start to think that Nintendo did a good job with introducing only DDR3 ram type.
When you have only 1GB ram for games you won't use high quality assets like high res textures so Ram speed don't matter that much.
If case was different like it would have 2GB or more for very high quality assets high speed ram would be crucial to system.
everything is so slow :S
I'm not even comparing it to non-Nintendo devices. Checking notifications is quicker on my 3DS than this. Is there like a memory leak or something?
I'm just in awe tha people are excited over these ports of Batman, AC3, BLOPS, Mass Effect... etc
Really? Is this just some launch window syndrome?
Did you miss the Vita lauch/announcement of P4 Golden as Vita's savior?
Posted from my Wii U.
WTF is going on. I have everything physically set up but when I got the point of syncing my game pad with the system, this test screen appeared on the game pad screen.
I'm just in awe tha people are excited over these ports of Batman, AC3, BLOPS, Mass Effect... etc
Really? Is this just some launch window syndrome?
everything is so slow :S
I'm not even comparing it to non-Nintendo devices. Checking notifications is quicker on my 3DS than this. Is there like a memory leak or something?
They're equally slow to me. More annoying on 3DS where waiting is more noticeable.
Also are you guys actually using the Giant Bomb WiFi thing as an indictment of the system? :lol Mine connected to WiFi fine, come on. Grasping at straws now.
Posted from my Wii U.
Come on. That's a lot more fun than most pickup pictures. At least he put some effort into it.
:nsfw What the fuck is wrong with these people
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lol I thought that insulting Israel was going to be the reason for my banning this year.
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lol I thought that insulting Israel was going to be the reason for my banning this year.
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lol I thought that insulting Israel was going to be the reason for my banning this year.
You were banned because you called Nintendo fans "people"? ???
QuoteWTF is going on. I have everything physically set up but when I got the point of syncing my game pad with the system, this test screen appeared on the game pad screen.
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lol I thought that insulting Israel was going to be the reason for my banning this year.
Thread link plz
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44473068&postcount=70
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lol I thought that insulting Israel was going to be the reason for my banning this year.
Thread link plz
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44473068&postcount=70
everything is so slow :S
I'm not even comparing it to non-Nintendo devices. Checking notifications is quicker on my 3DS than this. Is there like a memory leak or something?
They're equally slow to me. More annoying on 3DS where waiting is more noticeable.
Also are you guys actually using the Giant Bomb WiFi thing as an indictment of the system? :lol Mine connected to WiFi fine, come on. Grasping at straws now.
Posted from my Wii U.
Day 1 is for figuring out what the actual flaws and strengths of a system are, so yes, each criticism is accounted for.
I know, it must be difficult to deal with after buying into Nintendo + press hype for 2 years. but every system by any company must go through it.
Hence the popular phrase "day 1 beta tester."
everything is so slow :S
I'm not even comparing it to non-Nintendo devices. Checking notifications is quicker on my 3DS than this. Is there like a memory leak or something?
They're equally slow to me. More annoying on 3DS where waiting is more noticeable.
Also are you guys actually using the Giant Bomb WiFi thing as an indictment of the system? :lol Mine connected to WiFi fine, come on. Grasping at straws now.
Posted from my Wii U.
Why does all Nintendo OS stuff look like Playskool designed it?
Non hyped? What about monster hunter?
everything is so slow :S
I'm not even comparing it to non-Nintendo devices. Checking notifications is quicker on my 3DS than this. Is there like a memory leak or something?
They're equally slow to me. More annoying on 3DS where waiting is more noticeable.
Also are you guys actually using the Giant Bomb WiFi thing as an indictment of the system? :lol Mine connected to WiFi fine, come on. Grasping at straws now.
Posted from my Wii U.
Let's get real for a second. You're never gonna admit to any of the system's flaws, even if they secretly bug the shit out of you, and you're gonna offer up excuses every time someone else brings them up. Because you're not a normal consumer, you're an unpaid apologist/cheerleader for corporations you're a fan of. See also: Android.
everything is so slow :S
I'm not even comparing it to non-Nintendo devices. Checking notifications is quicker on my 3DS than this. Is there like a memory leak or something?
They're equally slow to me. More annoying on 3DS where waiting is more noticeable.
Also are you guys actually using the Giant Bomb WiFi thing as an indictment of the system? :lol Mine connected to WiFi fine, come on. Grasping at straws now.
Posted from my Wii U.
Day 1 is for figuring out what the actual flaws and strengths of a system are, so yes, each criticism is accounted for.
I know, it must be difficult to deal with after buying into Nintendo + press hype for 2 years. but every system by any company must go through it.
Hence the popular phrase "day 1 beta tester."
I've been pretty damn nonhyped for the Wii U ever since it was announced. There's a difference between not being hyped and looking for any reason you can to hate. But whatever floats your boat, I guess.
Posted from my Wii U.
I can't believe how slow the OS is.
god I hope hes not typing that every time- cause thats fuckin zealotry at work
I assume the Android device actually has a usable space bar, though
dat responsive resistive
So all those videos I've seen of people stabbing at the screen several times to get it to register a simple input are...?
Here, let me help you out with a few starter excuses:
"Lazy devs aren't calibrating the screen correctly."
"Once everyone grows their fingernails out these complaints will stop."
"They're doing that on purpose to make the Game Pad look bad."
Hey you should be playing some games instead of posting here, you've got about 6-7 years' worth of Hollywood gaming to catch up on
I wouldn't be able to resist either :)
After update insert some Wii game to see if the system is upscaling or not.
If you have Wii games of course
Two weak things:This depends on your TV brand and model. There is no standard for how to treat overscan.
-if you have a 1080p TV the game will have black bars surrounding it until you adjust the screen setting.
-No 4:3 mode. Wii has a 4:3 resolution (640x480) stretched by your TV for widescreen in games. Some games looked better when you just ran them in 4:3 with black bars. Wario Land Shake was one of them. Personally, I don't think it's a big deal.I can force a 4:3 image on my TV by changing the display settings even if the console is outputting a stretched image.
-No 4:3 mode. Wii has a 4:3 resolution (640x480) stretched by your TV for widescreen in games. Some games looked better when you just ran them in 4:3 with black bars. Wario Land Shake was one of them. Personally, I don't think it's a big deal.I can force a 4:3 image on my TV by changing the display settings even if the console is outputting a stretched image.
no one is talking about it , but what is the GPU in Wii U?It's a custom GPU with unknown performance. You will have to wait for a developer to leak information or someone to run it through an x-ray if you want any more details.
It's nice the Wii U lets you multitask when the loadtimes are shit.
I didnt change anything, man.
If you bought a Wii U today you are a Wii U Ambassador, mark my words :lol
for anyone following this shit on gaf, has anyone attempted to use the 360 controller on PC? supposedly that's just bluetooth.
If you bought a Wii U today you are a Wii U Ambassador, mark my words :lol
It's like I'm in an exclusive club and none of you are invited. :ninja Best club ever.
I could go for 10 free GameCube VC games, yeah.
That is fairly funny. :lol
What happened? Is your Wii U broke? Did it drop the internet connection? Why aren't you posting from it anymore? :rofl
More like 10 NES roms.
The Wii U pad doesn't work from the kitchen anymore :lol ?
The Wii U pad doesn't work from the kitchen anymore :lol ?
If you're eating a sandwich you should make sure it's on whole WII-eat bread
demi, word filter "Wii U" to "Underpowered Hugbox"
When do you guys think the port begging will begin? I say 6 months from now when even ninthings can't deny the lack of actual games on the thing.
posted from my Blackberry Curve 8520
well, it definitely isn't selling out. the fred meyer (a kroger joint) still had like5150 units unsold this afternoon. :lol
well, it definitely isn't selling out. the fred meyer (a kroger joint) still had like5150 units unsold this afternoon. :lol
it's for my daughter! for xmas!
it's for my daughter! for xmas!
Posted from my Wii U
well, it definitely isn't selling out. the fred meyer (a kroger joint) still had like5150 units unsold this afternoon. :lol
:'(
it's for my daughter! for xmas!
Posted from my Wii U
http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/wiiu/en_na/account_your_account.jsp
Can I Log Into My Nintendo Network Account on a Different Console?
Answer:
-No, you cannot. A Nintendo Network Account can only be used on the console where it was created. In the future, you will be able to use your Nintendo Network Account with future Nintendo consoles and other devices, such as PC's.
-Currently, the Wii U supports up to 12 individual Nintendo Network ID's per console, which enables each member of the family to have his or her own unique identity on the system.
Context: the Giantbomb guys tied a bunch of their accounts to the office WiiU and they are FUCKED
When do you guys think the port begging will begin? I say 6 months from now when even ninthings can't deny the lack of actual games on the thing.
posted from my Blackberry Curve 8520
the port begging started long ago though.
Check all those "why is this not on WiiU" posts
Will this Giant Bomb thing be available later?
Will this Giant Bomb thing be available later?
they will archive it. probably split up into quicklooks for non-premiums and the entire thing for premiums
time to bring back that old Borecast staple feature "Indefensible!" for a special Christmas edition
Ryan Davis is so fucking hot.
Arkham City:
-7/10 from EGM "New glitches and unnecessary gimmicks make this a worse version than its predecessors."
-7/10 from Destructoid "took things that already worked perfectly and shook them until they cracked. Not shattered completely, but undoubtedly broken, just a little bit"
:lol
but you have a excuse
it's for my daughter! for xmas!
Posted from my Wii U
If they give you the option to store your credit card information, for the love of god hit "no"
To make a child's account, you have to pay $0.50 cents with a credit card.
Ever wanted to see what it's like on the other side of the Miiverse?
(http://s10.postimage.org/k9b9rn03d/2012_11_18_17_44_03_487.jpg)
(http://s11.postimage.org/ryjjpzb5f/2012_11_18_17_45_51_916.jpg)
(http://s11.postimage.org/ryjjpzb5f/2012_11_18_17_45_51_916.jpg)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=500411
man, they still don't get the concept of user accounts
If they give you the option to store your credit card information, for the love of god hit "no"
To make a child's account, you have to pay $0.50 cents with a credit card.
If one person on GAF found it on DAY ONE, I have the feeling that other people are going to
So that's the Miiverse debug menu AND the Gamepad debug menu both on the same day...jeez
Ever wanted to see what it's like on the other side of the Miiverse?
(http://s10.postimage.org/k9b9rn03d/2012_11_18_17_44_03_487.jpg)
(http://s11.postimage.org/ryjjpzb5f/2012_11_18_17_45_51_916.jpg)
(http://s11.postimage.org/ryjjpzb5f/2012_11_18_17_45_51_916.jpg)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=500411
hey, i don't gotta buy the brat anything else! merry xmas, honey! here's some long download times!
He made himself an admin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGJ2lzhypf0
It blows my fucking mind that anyone could access that kind of admin panel via fucking RELEASE HARDWARE
I wish the Giant Bomb guys would start talking about this. Why isn't Kotaku going crazy with this story.
http://i1.minus.com/iZa6ehYrl47mK.jpg
WTF :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Just TO MY CREDIT- bought entirely with trade in credit; so im not a complete loon- but im close
Did you trade in only bad games?
Good news will be confirmed for those who are wanting a new Yoshi console game in about five minutes.
Edit: and possibly Metal Gear Solid.
:drudge Andrex, are you okay? :drudge
QuoteGood news will be confirmed for those who are wanting a new Yoshi console game in about five minutes.
Edit: and possibly Metal Gear Solid.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If this isn't some kind of hoax, this is fucking insane
man, they still don't get the concept of user accounts
I've been uneasy about Wii U accounts since Nintendo started talking about them. The emphasis was obviously on local accounts, so I thought that's all we would get when everyone was like "awesome, Nintendo accounts!"
Nintendo Network IDs are actually a bonus and this isn't the worst case scenario for me. But I was pretty pessimistic about the whole thing from the start.
Obviously they should let you use your account on other systems, even if you have to use a website or something to "link" and "unlink" them so they ensure you're not hooking a bunch up for piracy. Maybe we'll get there eventually. Until then, this definitely blows.
QuoteGood news will be confirmed for those who are wanting a new Yoshi console game in about five minutes.
Edit: and possibly Metal Gear Solid.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If this isn't some kind of hoax, this is fucking insane
(http://i.imgur.com/4S8Vr.jpg)
Seems weird that Soul Hackers is there. That's a 3DS remake.
Yoshi's Land? What the hell is that?
I'm not sure if anything good has ended in "Land" since the original Gameboy so it's probably nothing to get excited about.
Seems weird that Soul Hackers is there. That's a 3DS remake.
Oh, you're right.
SM3DL, lame-o.
This can't be real.
Right?
Oh, you're right.
SM3DL, lame-o.
Still, it's a strange name for a console game.
lol ME3 runs like shit looks like (GB stream)
lol ME3 runs like shit looks like (GB stream)
time to bring back that old Borecast staple feature "Indefensible!" for a special Christmas edition
Oh yes. Oh, YES.
I'm calling fake, dude only revealed how he did it after it was supposedly shut down.
You honestly think he crafted a bunch of photoshops within a hour or so?
I'm calling fake, dude only revealed how he did it after it was supposedly shut down.
You honestly think he crafted a bunch of photoshops within a hour or so?
Make photoshops before hand? As I said, pretty suspect he didn't say how he accessed this until it was supposedly disabled.
Even if it is legit, outside of Yoshi I imagine it's all just virtual console/3DS stuff.
I'm pretty happy with the 3DS - i'll wait until this thing gets ambass'ed and some games that i care about. The best game coming to it is also on the 3DS.Local multiplayer Advance Wars with multiple tablets would be an ideal experience for me. That's not going to happen, though, so I see nothing that an Advance Wars would gain from being made for this instead of the 3DS.
I just know Nintendo are going to be dicks and stick Advance Wars on it and force my hand :(
I'm pretty happy with the 3DS - i'll wait until this thing gets ambass'ed and some games that i care about. The best game coming to it is also on the 3DS.
I just know Nintendo are going to be dicks and stick Advance Wars on it and force my hand :(
I love the way the stream ended. They started Nintendo Land and after a never-ending load they got this screen
(http://i50.tinypic.com/24qle2w.png)
On the Giant Bomb stream, they also pointed out that game saves aren't restricted to the signed-in account, so Nintendo Land's single save and NSMBU's three saves are all you get on the console, even if you have the full twelve users. It seems like the only point to the account is to give each person their own friend list.
from gafQuoteOn the Giant Bomb stream, they also pointed out that game saves aren't restricted to the signed-in account, so Nintendo Land's single save and NSMBU's three saves are all you get on the console, even if you have the full twelve users. It seems like the only point to the account is to give each person their own friend list.
There are actually three components on this single package, made in at least two different microprocessor fabs. The multicore PowerPC based CPU is the smaller of the two larger chips. This die is made on IBM's 45nm SOI process. The RV7xx derived GPU is the biggest die on the package, and I'm presuming it was made on a 40nm process. I'm assuming the very tiny die in the corner is actually some off-chip memory. Both the CPU and GPU in the Wii U are supposed to have some eDRAM, although the bulk of it is likely dedicated for the GPU.
If we assume a 40nm process for the GPU, then we're looking at something a bit larger than the RV740. The Wii U does boast backwards compatibility with games made for the original Wii, which is made possible thanks to a shared ISA with the original PowerPC based Wii.
real talk: don't buy this. Not even if you're loose with cash. There's potential but at this point (or until 2013, really) it has no redeeming qualities. Going back to the Wii via Wii Mode was a radical difference in usability. Things don't work, and those that do work slowly. It's unfinished. And not unfinished as in missing features like 3DS or Vita.
That said, parts of Nintendo Land are surprisingly fun. The Zelda mini-game is the best part of Wii Sports Resort with a cool cardboard/patchwork spin on Zelda themes. Metroid game is like Link's Crossbow Training. Fzero game is decent fun. There's a bunch of games and bunch of levels/models for each. It's better than Nintendo's other shovelware-y software like Wii Sports Resort and Pilotwings 3DS.
The shuriken throwing game is an example of why the resistive screen sucks for swiping motions. There's even a message that pops up to say "if you're having trouble, use the stylus!"
Expecting Online from Nintendo is kinda crazy- if anything the worst part of this launch is the fact that they got so ambitious with the online and, in most ways that matter, are failing at it.
Just gonna put this here:
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/353614/iwata-xbox-live-and-psn-are-too-far-developed-for-nintendo-to-catch-up/
Why would Sony or Microsoft copy it when they can just build the real thing into their systems? They aren't stupid like Nintendo.
yeah, just about every big release used to have some kind of "post to facebook/twitter" feature, but they seem to have slowed down once they realized that in actuality people hate seeing that stuff shitting up their newsfeeds
real talk: don't buy this. Not even if you're loose with cash. There's potential but at this point (or until 2013, really) it has no redeeming qualities. Going back to the Wii via Wii Mode was a radical difference in usability. Things don't work, and those that do work slowly. It's unfinished. And not unfinished as in missing features like 3DS or Vita.
That said, parts of Nintendo Land are surprisingly fun. The Zelda mini-game is the best part of Wii Sports Resort with a cool cardboard/patchwork spin on Zelda themes. Metroid game is like Link's Crossbow Training. Fzero game is decent fun. There's a bunch of games and bunch of levels/models for each. It's better than Nintendo's other shovelware-y software like Wii Sports Resort and Pilotwings 3DS.
The shuriken throwing game is an example of why the resistive screen sucks for swiping motions. There's even a message that pops up to say "if you're having trouble, use the stylus!"
You're playing Nintendoland? Alone? :wtf
MAF GIVE WARRIORS OROCHI 3 IMPRESSIONS
WO3 goty
Spotted this 'anonymous developer' post on slashdot.
http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3259173&cid=42023663
Speaking as a developer who's worked on the PS3, the Xbox 360 and the WiiU. The CPU on the WiiU has some nice things on it. But its not as powerful as the Xbox360 chip. I think N went to IBM and asked them: 'What's cheap to put on the chip?' and IBM said 'Well we have this sh*t that no-one wants.' and N said 'we'll take it.'
MAF GIVE WARRIORS OROCHI 3 IMPRESSIONS
WO3 goty
I'm wondering how it is myself, but we already know that the Wii U version goes at half the framerate of the PS3/360 versions ( :lol) and has some added characters.
they are probably gonna sell a bigger battery to use all that space or something.The left side does have notches that look built to take a horizontally aligned battery. Kind of a lame thing to do.
Yeah that about sums if up- they output whats on the screen to the controller, framerate is WAT...they phoned this one in. On the plus side- something other than Mario that's a decent game I spose. NINTENDO APOLOGIZMSMSMSMS
:nsfw
http://i.imgur.com/0HjFo.jpg
:nsfwYeeeeessssss
http://i.imgur.com/0HjFo.jpg
Yeah that about sums if up- they output whats on the screen to the controller, framerate is WAT...they phoned this one in. On the plus side- something other than Mario that's a decent game I spose. NINTENDO APOLOGIZMSMSMSMS
Did you get the black wii with nintendo land? Honestly, it's pretty fun. A couple of the single player games are iphone-ish runner games, but fun nonetheless. The Donkey Kong one is like a mix between Trials HD and Heavy Rain.
Interesting,if true
(http://www.abload.de/img/wii_u_power2dpav.png)
The giant bomb guys raging at nintendo was awesome :rofl
link?
Don't know if there's correlation between power consumption and noise, but the Wii U is dead silent. There's only a slight high pitch squeal when running games. I think the Wii's drive made more noise.
So my question still stands shall I open this thing or not? :-\
The missus wants to open it really badly but she just can't bring herself to opening it.
I ended up picking up an awesome deal today at Toysrus. I ended up paying $45 bucks for both Sega Allstar Racing and Scribblenauts Unlimited, thank you dumb employee. Also picked up ZombiU and of course Super Mario U.
Resale in our area (Bay Area) is awful, the flippers aren't even getting $450 for it.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=500440
Just gonna put this here:
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/353614/iwata-xbox-live-and-psn-are-too-far-developed-for-nintendo-to-catch-up/
I know it's been said before, but I really can't figure out how this thing could have ended up worse then PS360 yet cost more.
I will enjoy this trainwreck.Just gonna put this here:
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/353614/iwata-xbox-live-and-psn-are-too-far-developed-for-nintendo-to-catch-up/
Wow so NOW they admit they have just given up on online. Amazing.
Wii Fit 2 wasn't even called Wii Fit 2, troll fails.
Also, I would totally not say ZombiU 2 is an inevitability.
The good news is that Nintendo's debut HD offering features a standard HDMI connection, meaning compatibility with virtually any high-definition display made in the last six years. Better still is the fact that the company isn't selling us short in terms of connectivity: yes, no trips to Poundland are required here, because an HDMI cable is included in the box.
Adding to the good news is that Nintendo hasn't encrypted the digital output of the Wii U. There's no HDCP implementation, meaning that you can connect the Wii U to older DVI monitors with no support for the nigh-on useless digital encryption system. Probably of more relevance is that you can easily record video directly from HDMI using devices such as the Elgato Game Capture HD and the Hauppauge HD PVR 2 if you're looking to share gameplay on YouTube.
Nintendo appears to have taken a leaf out of Microsoft's book in terms of how various screen resolutions are dealt with. All of the games we've tested to date appear to operate at native 720p, but just like Xbox 360 the console outputs at any resolution you select, upscaling - or indeed downscaling - to your preferred video format. We'd have liked a 1366x768 option for native output for "HD ready" panels, but the available options are fine overall.
However, there is some unwelcome news - specifically that the HDMI output is locked to limited-range RGB only, with footage from all games we've captured thus far revealing absolutely no information in the 0-16 or 235-255 areas. Many digital displays - PC monitors in particular - don't operate correctly with limited-range RGB, giving washed out colours principally defined by blacks being more grey-like in nature. This is something Nintendo really needs to address as a matter of urgency - it's the most basic of omissions, something that Sony and Microsoft resolved to everyone's satisfaction many, many years ago.
Bizarrely, for a console launching when digital video standards are established and mature, many users may well find that they get a more vibrant picture by using the legacy component outputs.
Seriously though, I'd like to see a $349 build that is capable of outperforming the Wii U.
Throw in a tablet of equivalent resolution to the Wii U tablet to make things fair.
The giant bomb guys raging at nintendo was awesome :rofl
link?
It's at 4:44 of the live stream, when they realize that each Nintendo ID is tied indefinitely to the Wii U on which it was created.
Nintendo has admitted the area existed and termed it a "mock-up menu" of content. The area was quickly removed when the user began posting screenshots and information to NeoGAF.
"It has come to our attention that some people were able to access a mock up menu on Miiverse following the launch of Wii U in the US," Nintendo told GamesIndustry International. "Please note that this was only a mock up menu and has now been removed and is not accessible."
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=237787&page=24
:teehee
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44513231&postcount=1181QuoteSeriously though, I'd like to see a $349 build that is capable of outperforming the Wii U.
Throw in a tablet of equivalent resolution to the Wii U tablet to make things fair.
So...build a $339 PC, pick up a palm pilot at goodwill for $10. done.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=237787&page=24
:teehee
:lol
As far as online goes, they'd have been much better off letting someone else with a proven history handle building their infrastructure. I bet EA was chomping at the bit, you just know they've been wanting to stick their dicks in running a console online service. I know everyone kind of slags them (deservedly, most of the time), but Origin runs fine and has excellent download speeds. Valve might have done something with them, although I guess Wii U wouldn't have come out until 2015 in that case.
Anyway, if you know you don't have the chops to do something, hire someone who does and save yourself a bunch of fixit work covering your own fuckups further down the line. That's just basic business sense.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=237787&page=24
:teehee
:lol
As far as online goes, they'd have been much better off letting someone else with a proven history handle building their infrastructure. I bet EA was chomping at the bit, you just know they've been wanting to stick their dicks in running a console online service. I know everyone kind of slags them (deservedly, most of the time), but Origin runs fine and has excellent download speeds. Valve might have done something with them, although I guess Wii U wouldn't have come out until 2015 in that case.
Anyway, if you know you don't have the chops to do something, hire someone who does and save yourself a bunch of fixit work covering your own fuckups further down the line. That's just basic business sense.
EA boss was pretty naive if he thought Nintendo would give EA control(even partial) over WiiU internet space.
Nintendo giving up control...never
Why would they pair with the likes of Valve too?
So that Valve can quickly discount some Mario game to $10,game that Nintendo would be selling at full price for many years...not gonna happen
But no whimsy.
Zelda?
3D Dot Heroes
EA boss was pretty naive if he thought Nintendo would give EA control(even partial) over WiiU internet space.
Nintendo giving up control...never
Why would they pair with the likes of Valve too?
So that Valve can quickly discount some Mario game to $10,game that Nintendo would be selling at full price for many years...not gonna happen
Sony let Valve link a version of Steam with Portal 2, and that worked out pretty well for them
of course they wouldn't just slap steam on it, i'm just talking about hiring a proven company to build a solid framework, not a separate company taking over the entire operation
that need for absolute control and halfassing things themselves is what's gonna keep bringing you the jank for the next...however long the wii u lifespan is
basically, in that article the dude is telling you wii u online sucks, will continue to suck, and you're just gonna have to deal if you want your pikmins
It's going to be fun watching Andrex break and finally join the PC elite.
EA can still include Origin support in their Wii U games, Nintendo's made a big deal of "linking your Nintendo Network ID with third party services, with your consent." That's more than XBL and PSN allow so I don't know why EA would be butthurt over it.Huh? My PS3 account is linked to both Origin and Steam and my live account is linked to Origin ???
Then why have you avoided Batman and such when they are much cheaper on Steam?
EA can still include Origin support in their Wii U games, Nintendo's made a big deal of "linking your Nintendo Network ID with third party services, with your consent." That's more than XBL and PSN allow so I don't know why EA would be butthurt over it.Huh? My PS3 account is linked to both Origin and Steam and my live account is linked to Origin ???
Just wait until the next gen of consoles roll out with "HD" ports of games like Skyrim and ME3 (by HD I mean they look and run more like their PC counterparts). Wii U might feel a little left out.
Then why have you avoided Batman and such when they are much cheaper on Steam?
Dunno, hoping it would be a good port and my PC is kinda crappy. Can barely run Sonic Generations, been meaning to upgrade it forever.
What does that functionally do though? Are the game servers Origin based or PSN-based?
Dat Linux power.Then why have you avoided Batman and such when they are much cheaper on Steam?
Dunno, hoping it would be a good port and my PC is kinda crappy. Can barely run Sonic Generations, been meaning to upgrade it forever.EA can still include Origin support in their Wii U games, Nintendo's made a big deal of "linking your Nintendo Network ID with third party services, with your consent." That's more than XBL and PSN allow so I don't know why EA would be butthurt over it.Huh? My PS3 account is linked to both Origin and Steam and my live account is linked to Origin ???
What does that functionally do though? Are the game servers Origin based or PSN-based?
So how shitty is this thing? I haven't been paying that much attention, but from what I've heard there's a lot of problems.
So how shitty is this thing? I haven't been paying that much attention, but from what I've heard there's a lot of problems.The console has so many flaws--slow RAM (much slower than the PS3's or 360's), slow OS, weak CPU, crappy region lock, locked ID to a single console, and a tiny, weak battery--that I'm pretty sure Drinky designed it to troll the fuck out of Nintendo fans.
What's wrong with the black levels?
However, there is some unwelcome news - specifically that the HDMI output is locked to limited-range RGB only, with footage from all games we've captured thus far revealing absolutely no information in the 0-16 or 235-255 areas. Many digital displays - PC monitors in particular - don't operate correctly with limited-range RGB, giving washed out colours principally defined by blacks being more grey-like in nature. This is something Nintendo really needs to address as a matter of urgency - it's the most basic of omissions, something that Sony and Microsoft resolved to everyone's satisfaction many, many years ago.
The NDF on GAF is getting pretty terrible, comparing 360/PS3 ports to Vita as justification for why Wii U's ports don't suck. Vita isn't the generation successor to PS3/360 like Wii U is supposed to be. It's also a handheld.
So how shitty is this thing? I haven't been paying that much attention, but from what I've heard there's a lot of problems.The console has so many flaws--slow RAM (much slower than the PS3's or 360's), slow OS, weak CPU, crappy region lock, locked ID to a single console, and a tiny, weak battery--that I'm pretty sure Drinky designed it to troll the fuck out of Nintendo fans.
hey, i don't gotta buy the brat anything else! merry xmas, honey! here's some long download times!
Then why have you avoided Batman and such when they are much cheaper on Steam?
Dunno, hoping it would be a good port and my PC is kinda crappy. Can barely run Sonic Generations, been meaning to upgrade it forever.
:lol :lol :lol
Son, you aren't really pc gaming then
What does that functionally do though? Are the game servers Origin based or PSN-based?
hey look, goal posts moving in a nintendo thread
Dat Linux power.
They don't care about online beause the people who buy their machines don't care about it or haven't demonstrated they care because they keep buying them as is. Why invest in it if your audience is satisfied with split screen and Pokemon.
Then why have you avoided Batman and such when they are much cheaper on Steam?
Dunno, hoping it would be a good port and my PC is kinda crappy. Can barely run Sonic Generations, been meaning to upgrade it forever.
:lol :lol :lol
Son, you aren't really pc gaming then
I get the indie stuff. :gloomyWhat does that functionally do though? Are the game servers Origin based or PSN-based?
hey look, goal posts moving in a nintendo thread
What goalposts? :lol It's an honest question.
EA can still include Origin support in their Wii U games, Nintendo's made a big deal of "linking your Nintendo Network ID with third party services, with your consent." That's more than XBL and PSN allow so I don't know why EA would be butthurt over it.Huh? My PS3 account is linked to both Origin and Steam and my live account is linked to Origin ???
Yeah, I don't get his point. Every EA game has you log into EA's servers for your origin info on console. ???
Then backpedal after finding out that you can and put an extra requirement of it needing to do something and that the servers have to be in a particular place-- the new goalposts.
Then backpedal after finding out that you can and put an extra requirement of it needing to do something and that the servers have to be in a particular place-- the new goalposts.
I didn't know they allowed that, which makes it more confusing. What exactly did EA want? To host every single online Wii U game on their servers? :lol
Then backpedal after finding out that you can and put an extra requirement of it needing to do something and that the servers have to be in a particular place-- the new goalposts.
I didn't know they allowed that, which makes it more confusing. What exactly did EA want? To host every single online Wii U game on their servers? :lol
So how shitty is this thing? I haven't been paying that much attention, but from what I've heard there's a lot of problems.The console has so many flaws--slow RAM (much slower than the PS3's or 360's), slow OS, weak CPU, crappy region lock, locked ID to a single console, and a tiny, weak battery--that I'm pretty sure Drinky designed it to troll the fuck out of Nintendo fans.
I hope U all Wii U gamers are not excited for the following:
Anarchy Reigns
Metal gear Rising
God of War Ascension
Tales of Xillia
Beyond: Two Souls
The Last Guardian
Final Fantasy Versus XIII
Gears of War: Judgement
The Last of Us
Cause U ain't seeing that shit on Ur system!
I might been a stone cold business man, but atleast my Nintendo consoles were always up to the latest tech
I on the other hand make tons of money while I run the popular Nintendo franchises to the ground. I also take big pride in recycling 10 year old tech as brand new
What is Beyond: Two Souls? Sounds like Sony exclusive. See? Sony working dat magic.
I hope U all Wii U gamers are not excited for the following:
Anarchy Reigns
Metal gear Rising
God of War Ascension
Tales of Xillia
Beyond: Two Souls
The Last Guardian
Final Fantasy Versus XIII
Gears of War: Judgement
The Last of Us
Cause U ain't seeing that shit on Ur system!
Anyone else find difficult to maintain interest in PS360 due to the WiiU launch?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=500500QuoteAnyone else find difficult to maintain interest in PS360 due to the WiiU launch?
:lol :lol
Only U.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=500500QuoteAnyone else find difficult to maintain interest in PS360 due to the WiiU launch?
:lol :lol
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=500500QuoteAnyone else find difficult to maintain interest in PS360 due to the WiiU launch?
:lol :lol
That thread is hilarious, since pretty much everyone has said No.
Um, WiiU is more powerful than current gen and will get PS4/720 ports
I Love Mondays for Giantbomb is up, near the last few minutes (12:10) Patrick gives some details on him calling Nintendo asking for his NNID to be switched over to a new console:
http://www.giantbomb.com/i-love-mond...92012/17-6814/
Turns out Nintendo customer service can't switch over NNIDs to a new console, it is completely locked, and they're looking into what they can do but are not optimistic that anything can be done.
So much for calling Nintendo.
QuoteI Love Mondays for Giantbomb is up, near the last few minutes (12:10) Patrick gives some details on him calling Nintendo asking for his NNID to be switched over to a new console:
http://www.giantbomb.com/i-love-mond...92012/17-6814/
Turns out Nintendo customer service can't switch over NNIDs to a new console, it is completely locked, and they're looking into what they can do but are not optimistic that anything can be done.
So much for calling Nintendo.
:derp
The best part is that Nintendo is the cheapest and laziest of the three so you better get used to it.
First they will ignore it and pretend it doesn't exist, then they will make PR statements downplaying the flaws, and then they will slowly start fixing it quietly through patches. This is going to be a process that will take months into years.
QuoteI Love Mondays for Giantbomb is up, near the last few minutes (12:10) Patrick gives some details on him calling Nintendo asking for his NNID to be switched over to a new console:
http://www.giantbomb.com/i-love-mond...92012/17-6814/
Turns out Nintendo customer service can't switch over NNIDs to a new console, it is completely locked, and they're looking into what they can do but are not optimistic that anything can be done.
So much for calling Nintendo.
:derp
I am legit pissed now. What the fuck. Wii U deserves to bomb as hard as the 3DS did initially until it slaps Nintendo in the damn face and puts them in panic mode like with 3DS.
Yes. Let the hate consume you.
A dragon quest mmo that is already out on wii, that most people already own, yes.
QuoteA dragon quest mmo that is already out on wii, that most people already own, yes.
and a HD up port of Monster Hunter that everyone plays with -together- and not online.
The Wii U might well end up getting a REAL DQ game and a REAL Monster Hunter game but the constant repeating of ITS GOT DRAGON QUEST AND MONSTER HUNTER! is lolsome
just watched a commercial for batman wiiu. "the definitive version" :lol :lol
I'm surprised there are even commercials for a late port ...
I'm surprised there are even commercials for a late port ...
Never seen GTA pc version commercials? :wtf
The best part is that Nintendo is the cheapest and laziest of the three so you better get used to it."Nintendo" is a corporation(s), not a person. What makes you sure Nintendo employees are "lazy" rather than any other number of speculative reasons? And why exactly is this "the best part"?
This ain't even funny. I could understand if it were say 2006 possibly, but its 2012 wtf is wrong with this company?
The best part is that Nintendo is the cheapest and laziest of the three so you better get used to it."Nintendo" is a corporation(s), not a person.
someone try to friend me- NID is cooters..I think; this shits confusing
someone try to friend me- NID is cooters..I think; this shits confusing
its kinda a nightmare- you have to be able to like see their profile to friend them but how do you do that? what screen?! ahhhhh!!!!!
I thought at least they'd have some sort of account system set up
I mean...I have no idea how they'd patch that kind of shit in later, it seems kinda fucked from the get-go
G - whats your ID?
So far this has been the most unstable system I've owned in terms of crashing/freezing. Three hard freezes and I've barely used it.
This is in a well ventilated area too. Back in college I kept my 360 (and power brick) in a closed drawer for a couple months and it took until 4 years for it to die.
edit: I'll add some people if I figure it out. I want the Warawara® to show some quality musou game icons.
PRO TIP: A person only gets notified you added them as a friend if you use the Miiverse search, not if you directly add them from Friends List. #NINTENDO
Has anyone encountered a bunch of dicks in the public area or whatever?
yo Andrex how do I take a game picture?
On iPhone, Vita, and my Nexus it's a combo of buttons. Is it the same here?
Keep in mind upscaling isn't upresing.Still better than muddy blurry vaseline filtered piss wii outputs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm70w_RsNvQ
Yup, I am buying a Wii U.
QuoteI Love Mondays for Giantbomb is up, near the last few minutes (12:10) Patrick gives some details on him calling Nintendo asking for his NNID to be switched over to a new console:
http://www.giantbomb.com/i-love-mond...92012/17-6814/
Turns out Nintendo customer service can't switch over NNIDs to a new console, it is completely locked, and they're looking into what they can do but are not optimistic that anything can be done.
So much for calling Nintendo.
:derp
Some games like Mario Galaxy still unplayable mess.
All these emulators suck because they only utilize a single fucking core.
http://kotaku.com/5962012/560-people-are-paying-black-ops-ii-online-on-the-wii-u-right-now
Kotaku started the story, twitter had some extra numbers (below)
Wii U: 512 multiplayer, 42 zombies.
Steam: 64,015 peak multiplayer. 1,868 zombies current. 9.716 peak zombies.
PS3: 570,000 multiplayer. 115,000 zombies.
360: 641,000 multiplayer. 800,000 on launch day.
someone try to friend me- NID is cooters..I think; this shits confusing
Quotehttp://kotaku.com/5962012/560-people-are-paying-black-ops-ii-online-on-the-wii-u-right-now
Kotaku started the story, twitter had some extra numbers (below)
Wii U: 512 multiplayer, 42 zombies.
Steam: 64,015 peak multiplayer. 1,868 zombies current. 9.716 peak zombies.
PS3: 570,000 multiplayer. 115,000 zombies.
360: 641,000 multiplayer. 800,000 on launch day.
There are more people playing BLOPS Declassified on Vita. :lol
You are not that dumb to compare Wii U's install base to Vita's one. Wii U is 3 days old, Vita is 10 months old.
someone try to friend me- NID is cooters..I think; this shits confusing
they're gonna ban you for that name!
Or at least somehow get into your WiiU and delete the glorified .txt document that is your Nintendo ID
Also, "well, that didn't take long":
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=500599
Not reading the thread, I suggest renaming gaming side tablet control gaming fan club if it hasn't been suggested already.
If it has, seconded, thirded, etc.
Chief technical officer, Oles Shishkovtsov, explains why Metro’s sequel won’t be appearing.http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1687689/wii_u_has_a_horrible_slow_cpu_says_metro_last_light_dev.html
“[The] Wii U has a horrible, slow CPU,” explained Shishkovtsov. “We had an early look at it, we thought we could probably do it, but in terms of the impact we would make on the overall quality of the game – potentially to its detriment – we just figured it wasn’t worth pursuing at this time. It’s something we might return to. I really couldn’t make any promises, though.”
Despite Nintendo’s console offering Metro: Last Light new experiences to its players with it dual screens, when asked Shishkovtsov was adamant that the Wii U would ever seen Metro: Last Light when asked directly.
“We had an initial look at the Wii U, but given the size of the team and compared to where we were last time, just developing for the Playstation 3 is a significant addition.”
Over the years, how many times do you suppose we'll be seeing "It's just not powerful enough to run it, sorry" quotes translated into "_____ Not Coming to Wii U, Lazy Devs Are Lazy" threads by Nintendo fans?
Also, "well, that didn't take long":
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=500599
you dull porker, anything done in the company of others is entertaining. that you chose to squander your halfwit family's free time playing this shitty dissonant fugue of corporate cynicism instead of, i dunno, making fucking pinterest crafts or trying to trick your youngest into drinking beer or whatever you gobsmacked yokels do, makes you utterly persecutable in your complete immorality. i hope your next box of twinkies is full of aids.:bow2
Over the years, how many times do you suppose we'll be seeing "It's just not powerful enough to run it, sorry" quotes translated into "_____ Not Coming to Wii U, Lazy Devs Are Lazy" threads by Nintendo fans?
Oh wow, I didn't even know this has a BD in it... thought Nintendo would go with DVDs again. Still, this sounds like a disaster but I do see myself getting one, not like I have any other interesting game-related things to buy (lol vita).
25 GB discs,no blu-ray or dvd playback
25 GB discs,no blu-ray or dvd playback
AGAIN, Nintendo? :lol Wouldn't having blu-ray and DVD video playback on the tablet screen have been a nice feature?
The WiiU will last that long simply due to boasting unequivocal domination of Japan.
And the strength of Nintendo IPs.
Any and all Western third-parties could drop support for the system tomorrow and Nintendo could still coast along with their first-party efforts and Japanese third-party interests (both exclusive and otherwise).
#1 in Japan and #3 everywhere else (#2 if Sony continues to struggle financially) isn't such a bad deal. Nintendo will still be making mad profits. And that doesn't even factor in their domination of the portable space.
Frankly, it's a GOOD thing the WiiU is so underpowered. Guarantees more support from the Japanese development community that way.[/u]
To be fair, having the disc drive spinning a bunch could cause it to fail. It's a solved problem but Nintendo goes for reliability and cheapness over nice features.
Sometimes it works out.
Sometimes.
To be fair, having the disc drive spinning a bunch could cause it to fail. It's a solved problem but Nintendo goes for reliability and cheapness over nice features.
Sometimes it works out.
Sometimes.
disc drives are not that fragile. they'd have nothing more than a normal failure rate.
It wasn't a decision in your best interest, it was a decision in their best interest.
Lazy Devs Are Lazy" threads by Nintendo fans?Pretend mind reading is a video game forum staple along with presenting opinions as facts. So expect to see about as much as usual.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44558402&postcount=514 :'( :'( :'(
Just came here to post that. :lol
I want nothing to do with this godforsaken fanbase anymore, I want off. Someone let me off!
Guys.
Guys.
Look what Wii U hath wrought.http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44558402&postcount=514 :'( :'( :'(
Just came here to post that. :lol
I want nothing to do with this godforsaken fanbase anymore, I want off. Someone let me off!
:bow WII U :bow2
ZombiU already looks better than Metro 2033, so this doesn't bug me too much.
QuoteZombiU already looks better than Metro 2033, so this doesn't bug me too much.
:lol
Remember, this is the company who removed MP3 playback from the Wii because they didn't want to pay licensing fees
What? :rofl
For all the things that Nintendo's been on the leading edge of, there's just as many things that they're so incredibly far behind on. Nothing new here.
Has anyone encountered a bunch of dicks in the public area or whatever?
:nsfw
http://i.imgur.com/0HjFo.jpg
PSA: All Stars Racing Transformed Has Game-Ending Bug
What can you say about launch day games? They’re usually the sloppiest, trashiest bits of data to hit a system if they’re not from a first party developer. It’s unfortunate that this is so with All-Stars Racing Transformed on Wii U. It seems a bug has been reported that essentially makes the game unplayable.
Those starting off the tour mode in single player find themselves at an impasse on the first boost challenge stage when the checkpoints you must pass through to extend time fail to load, essentially making the level on all difficulties unbeatable. There’s no getting around the stage either, leaving Wii U owners high and dry on the game.
This seems to affect all Wii U consoles that downloaded the update patch for the game upon boot up. Deleting the update data causes the system to redownload it upon booting up the game, and taking it offline will cause the system to complain at you to get an Internet connection to play the game.
If you’re deciding still which version to get, we highly advise staying away from the Wii U port until further notice. Hopefully Sumo Digital and Sega are on top of this and working up another patch, but such a gross oversight on a release game is reprehensible and lazy. Come on, Sega, this isn’t 2006 anymore.
Gamepad is only used in Rayman in that Nintendo sanctioned co-op way where the players using controllers are deemed to dumb to play a platformer themselves and need an extra person to finger waggle blocks/items/enemies for them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WITa3fNUOes
Euthanize everyone in this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WITa3fNUOes
Euthanize everyone in this video.
"Everything you'd want in a connected system we have"
:lol
To be fair there are a few things the WiiU does that I like and think are just plain good ideas- and i've tried to say as much, cause these days I like the advancement of the industry, but damn.
Why didn't they call this Wii DS?
Because saying "Wii Dis" sounds fucking stupid.
To be fair there are a few things the WiiU does that I like and think are just plain good ideas- and i've tried to say as much, cause these days I like the advancement of the industry, but damn.
Q: This will be the first Nintendo game machine that the company's going to be selling at a loss at launch. How does that change the business model for Nintendo?
A: The business model doesn't change dramatically, in that as soon as we get the consumer to buy one piece of software, then that entire transaction becomes profit positive.
In the end, the business model is still to drive the install base of hardware, and then to drive a strong tie ratio with all of the other software and experiences for the consumer. And if we're able to do that, then we will create significant profit for the company.
(hopefully it iwll be a Xenoblade Chronicles
Quote(hopefully it iwll be a Xenoblade Chronicles
I've seen several hardcore nthings go from concern troll over how next gen is going to bankrupt all and sundry -straight- into saying they can't wait for a huge budget Monolith game that's going to sell... um... 20k? 30k?
Fine they are now an internal 2nd party studio or whatever but the whole "bu bu won't SOMEONE think of the costs?!" is hollow at best and downright laughable the rest of the time.
it's not like 2D mario games had particularly great, varied scores anyways.
i think it's better than SMW.
1. Nintendoland- 28,509
2. NSMB U- 24,970
3. ZombiU- 11,511
4. CoD: BO2- 6,066
5. AC3- 3,282
6. Scribblenauts- 3,049
7. Sonic Racing- 2,812
8. Batman: AC- 2,437
9. Ninja Gaiden 3- 1,931
10. Epic Mickey 2- 1,044
I've not read it but apparently there's a big 2ch thread where the general feeling is "if you actually want to enjoy the Wii U then the actual -real- cost is heading towards 60,000" according to the wife
i assume , given that price, that they're saying 32k for the machine, 5k for an extra controller pack with bar, then 10k or so for the other 3 waggle motes, 5k for a pro controller, 6k/5k/5k for Nintendoland, MH, and Mario ... ?
I have now actually cancelled all preorders - all papers destroyed, all digital options deleted. I could still get one on the day but it does look like gaming herpes right now.
Can we extrapolate sales numbers based on this data? Or not.
First WiiU vs 360 vs PS3 DF face-off
Mass Effect 3
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-mass-effect-3-wii-u-face-off
Verdict
360>WiiU>PS3
Although in some areas PS3>WiiU
Top 10 Miiverse communitiesQuote1. Nintendoland- 28,509
2. NSMB U- 24,970
3. ZombiU- 11,511
4. CoD: BO2- 6,066
5. AC3- 3,282
6. Scribblenauts- 3,049
7. Sonic Racing- 2,812
8. Batman: AC- 2,437
9. Ninja Gaiden 3- 1,931
10. Epic Mickey 2- 1,044
First WiiU vs 360 vs PS3 DF face-off
Mass Effect 3
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-mass-effect-3-wii-u-face-off
Verdict
360>WiiU>PS3
Although in some areas PS3>WiiU
why are we arguing about this when we all play ME3 on PC? ??? second place is first loser
I've not read it but apparently there's a big 2ch thread where the general feeling is "if you actually want to enjoy the Wii U then the actual -real- cost is heading towards 60,000" according to the wife
i assume , given that price, that they're saying 32k for the machine, 5k for an extra controller pack with bar, then 10k or so for the other 3 waggle motes, 5k for a pro controller, 6k/5k/5k for Nintendoland, MH, and Mario ... ?
I have now actually cancelled all preorders - all papers destroyed, all digital options deleted. I could still get one on the day but it does look like gaming herpes right now.
ShockingAlberto :rofl
What did he do?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru9Mpsl8GRs
So yeah, Miiverse is pretty nice. It's not a worthwhile replacement for actual online, but it could be a good supplement. I think the reason something closed off and focused like this works, whereas just posting to Twitter in-game doesn't, is that it's, well... focused. It has a point, and that point is game status updates. It reminds me a lot of Backloggery. Kind of pointless, but oddly compelling because of how focused it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru9Mpsl8GRs
So yeah, Miiverse is pretty nice. It's not a worthwhile replacement for actual online, but it could be a good supplement. I think the reason something closed off and focused like this works, whereas just posting to Twitter in-game doesn't, is that it's, well... focused. It has a point, and that point is game status updates. It reminds me a lot of Backloggery. Kind of pointless, but oddly compelling because of how focused it is.
I actually like how the miiverse is surfaced at the home screen- the miiverse itself kind of 'meets an expectation' for me in terms of both form and function- but the home screen with the way you can browse the dynamic collection of Miis/Users in the community and see their latest community posts via Miiverse- THAT is a good idea.
gaf is apparently better at tech than the developer on Metro. Atleast that is what the ninfags think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru9Mpsl8GRs
So yeah, Miiverse is pretty nice. It's not a worthwhile replacement for actual online, but it could be a good supplement. I think the reason something closed off and focused like this works, whereas just posting to Twitter in-game doesn't, is that it's, well... focused. It has a point, and that point is game status updates. It reminds me a lot of Backloggery. Kind of pointless, but oddly compelling because of how focused it is.
I actually like how the miiverse is surfaced at the home screen- the miiverse itself kind of 'meets an expectation' for me in terms of both form and function- but the home screen with the way you can browse the dynamic collection of Miis/Users in the community and see their latest community posts via Miiverse- THAT is a good idea.
That's interesting, I don't really care for Wara Wara that much, seems pretty useless. Maybe I just need to play more games and get more friends, but eh. I like the implementation in NSMBU even if it's 100% superfluous, but there you have much better context for the messages.
I'm not one to cruise the trending topics on Twitter so maybe that's the issue.
gaf is apparently better at tech than the developer on Metro. Atleast that is what the ninfags think.
That thread... it's becoming increasingly difficult to tell who is and isn't trolling.
gaf is apparently better at tech than the developer on Metro. Atleast that is what the ninfags think.
That thread... it's becoming increasingly difficult to tell who is and isn't trolling.
I seen a few comments around that i -think- are serious that people still expect the Wii U to get "cutdown versions of Orbis/X8 games"
Hmmmmm......
As per a friend : the CPU would not be out of place in a cell phone.
COD is sub-hd on WiiU
look at Ubisoft for example, they love the Wii U.
640p at 28fps
Aside from brightness/saturation differences, the Wii U version looks better than both the PS3 and 360 in most of those comparisons.
Also, have people noticed the numbers going steadily up since Sunday or not?
658 people right now
Apparently its not out in Japan yet?
* The Wii U does not support DPII, DD or DTS.
Is Xmas an important shopping holiday for Japan? That would explain why they rushed it out in NA with unfinished firmware while waiting a bit for Japan's launch.
QuoteApparently its not out in Japan yet?
yup yup - wii U out on Dec 8th - thanks for finding all the problems with it.
The extra weeks give Japan Nintendo time to iron out all the stuff that works and make them ass backwards for the JPN market. I'm sure they're patching friend codes back in and only allowing online infra communication via morse code
I'm not sure what's worse. A fanboy playing defense, or a fanboy having a lovers' quarrel.
Because RIP $40 3DS, and $60 Wii U games.
Make sure you turn off your background downloads, since they can evidently make your games' already not-so-stellar performance even worse
WARA WARA
No DD support? Jesus Christ. You must be kidding me. No wonder they didn't support Optical.
Cheap turd system is a cheap turd.
I think this device got shoehorned with tablet gamepad at some point.
And then it was
oh shit oh shit this will cost too much,oh shit
cut cut cut cut cut
QuoteApparently its not out in Japan yet?
yup yup - wii U out on Dec 8th - thanks for finding all the problems with it.
The extra weeks give Japan Nintendo time to iron out all the stuff that works and make them ass backwards for the JPN market. I'm sure they're patching friend codes back in and only allowing online infra communication via morse code
I think this device got shoehorned with tablet gamepad at some point.
And then it was
oh shit oh shit this will cost too much,oh shit
cut cut cut cut cut
Why so mad? You've got people saying "andrex and his wretched ilk" and you target a post that doesn't even name you? Get your priorities straight. :-\I'm not sure what's worse. A fanboy playing defense, or a fanboy having a lovers' quarrel.
What's worse? You.
Nintendo still has time to increase the CPU speed via a firmware update, no worries.
(http://i.imgur.com/kSur9.gif)
Whats the deal with asynchroneuos multi gameplay. Imho its kind of lame.
I play fifa, cod, swtor. What else is there?
I suppose it is theoretically possible that the CPU is underclocked and a firmware update could raise it. Although an increase in CPU running speed on such a low ventilation system probably runs the risk of hardware failure.QuoteNintendo still has time to increase the CPU speed via a firmware update, no worries.
I saw that and nearly gave myself a hernia laughing.
Whats the deal with asynchroneuos multi gameplay. Imho its kind of lame.
I play fifa, cod, swtor. What else is there?
Asynchronous multiplayer isn't a Wii U thing (I think you mean asymmetrical?). It's more of an iphone thing, really. Stuff like words with friends or field runners (old PSP advance wars style game). Competition isn't happening in real time. You take a turn, and the other guy has however long to make his, and so on. You can have dozens of matches going on at the same time. This reminds me that I should probably check out my frozen synapse games are going.
Asymmetrical multiplayer is great but Nintendo and theirs annexed the term to mean "Pac Man VS." It's weird since even old Nintendo games like Mario Party were all about it. And a bunch of other games like L4D, Gears, Natural Selection, Halo 4, Splinter Cell, Rock Band, and so on.
All it really means is that the game is inherently unbalanced because the different players do different things. So, in Fifa or CoD, you have equal teams competing. If you had a team of footballers trying to score against a group of soldiers defending the goal with guns, I think that would qualify. (If that all makes sense)
Is there even an ounce of proof that Wii U's CPU is underclocked? :rofl
Is there even an ounce of proof that Wii U's CPU is underclocked? :rofl
Some games will work but nintendoland requires the motion plus. And it has to be the actual motion plus controller, not a regular controller plus attachment.
Some games will work but nintendoland requires the motion plus. And it has to be the actual motion plus controller, not a regular controller plus attachment.
Jesus fucking Christ. Is this a widely known thing?
Some games will work but nintendoland requires the motion plus. And it has to be the actual motion plus controller, not a regular controller plus attachment.
Some games will work but nintendoland requires the motion plus. And it has to be the actual motion plus controller, not a regular controller plus attachment.
I'm pretty sure the Wii U will only sync with a MotionPlus controller, the regular remote with the attachment probably doesn't send the right ID and is too dumb to know it is Plus enabled
Shit console
Some games will work but nintendoland requires the motion plus. And it has to be the actual motion plus controller, not a regular controller plus attachment.
Looks like Nintendo has ample supply of the hottest holiday item. :bow2
Nintendo has opened a pop-up experience store in the Sydney CBD as part of a national road tour to demonstrate the gaming brand’s new Wii U console system. The store, which is located beneath Myer on George Street, features a number of consoles for consumers to play with as well as a stage area to try out some interactive dance-gaming.
...
This journalist visited the Sydney store at lunchtime on a Tuesday and, while the shopfront might get busier on a weekend, it looked like the loneliest pop-up store in Christendom. This may be due to its out of-the-way location – it can be found two levels below street level, next to a food court, without a great deal of foot traffic from passers-by.
Yea, only an idiot would believe a half assed thing about a half assed console
Hmm , it seems a lot of folks are setting themselves up a heaping plate of crow again.
Yea, only an idiot would believe a half assed thing about a half assed console
Nintendo commonly lies by omission and intentially misleads, but they don't straight up lie about a banner feature. It's like saying, "Nintendo is half assing the Wii U, so they probably took the screen out of the controller."
Been fucking around with it. Touchscreen is horrible, seems on-par with this $10 touchscreen MP3 player I got from a grandparent. ZombiU seems okay but would get stupidly boring after a few hours.
Colors looked really washed out, looked it up and HDMI output is locked to limited-range RGB which I guess is the issue. Great!
HEY SHO NUFF
WHERE IS MY SKULLS MAN
This thing is going to bomb.
Emceee lets have an avatar bet. Whoever loses.has to have girliest avatar imaginable.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if party games like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylz7VoMaEeY became super popular.
If you want an impressive audiovisual experience then $300 is rather cheap. It's difficult to get high quality graphics for less than that. If that's too much you can always pick up a PS2 or something.
who the fuck is this mirzian guy and why is he intent on lapping up nintendo's ballsGuess he's just a lover not a hater kind of guy that doesn't really get the tone of this board. I don't think hes a nintard, he runs some tactic game blog.
Whereas the WiiU will be outdated in what, two years?It's already outdated.
It's too cheap to bomb this holiday season. Given how wrong I was about the Wii, it's hard to be too confident about long term predictions of doom...but I really think this thing will be selling at an average pace by the spring of 2013.
You can't just launch a system with no games, I thought they learned that with initially disastrous 3DS fiasco. I think the WiiU could definitely rebound from its (likely) spring problems, but by the time it gets its feet the actual next gen will have started...
Gonna buy it on all three platforms. :rockHEY SHO NUFF
WHERE IS MY SKULLS MAN
On its way to cert, will have an official release date very soon!
Thinking about it today, the console itself is actually the worst part about the Wii U.
If it was JUST an ARM tablet with a HDMI dongle or something, do you know how much hype this thing would have? Goddamn. An actual tablet with real gaming controls,
You know which games this gen impressed me the most visually? Mario Galaxy 1/2.
:gloomy :gloomy :gloomyThinking about it today, the console itself is actually the worst part about the Wii U.
If it was JUST an ARM tablet with a HDMI dongle or something, do you know how much hype this thing would have? Goddamn. An actual tablet with real gaming controls,
you mean the vita? yeah, that's doin' well :lol
Thinking about it today, the console itself is actually the worst part about the Wii U.
If it was JUST an ARM tablet with a HDMI dongle or something, do you know how much hype this thing would have? Goddamn. An actual tablet with real gaming controls,
you mean the vita? yeah, that's doin' well :lol
This turd needs to be euthanized:Quote from: Apophis2036;44678952NSMB U, Nintendo Land, ZombiU, Pikmin 3, Lego City Undercover, Wonderful 101, Wario Ware, Rayman Legends, Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate are all EXCLUSIVES in the first 4.5 months of the launch window.
Bayonetta 2 later in 2013.
Already rumours of RE6, NFS MW, Tomb Raider, Splinter Cell, and Watch Dogs multi platforms aswell.
Yeah you are right, WiiU has no games in 2013... Muppet.
I already think the screen is a bit too big for the gamepad...somewhat because of how bulky and toy-ish the build is.
A vita with a grip feels like normal console controller. Slightly bigger with full size analogs/buttons and it would feel like using a normal controller, only with a screen. Wii U pad is more comfortable than I would've thought but going back to a 360 pad, or even dualshock, is noticeably more comfortable.
And while I haven't used it, that s-pen (?) tech that allows accurate stylus drawing would be a good addition. Capacitive is way better but I see that people like to doodle in miiverse, so stylus/resistive has some worth, I guess.
The current generation of home consoles has sold 20% more than the previous one. I'm not sure where all this doom and gloom is coming from.
It's not like the products are pulled off the market once a new console is introduced (well, maybe in Xbox's case). The PS2 is still selling.
Customers would probably been amazed by New Super Mario Bros. U if it wasn't for NSMB, NSMBW, and NSMB2.
Maybe I'm not as sensitive to frame rate inconsistencies as you are, but I'm gong off my own eye test. The image quality increase outstrips any frame drops that may be going on. Who knows, as I play more, I may see what you're talking about more clearly.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-black-ops-2-wii-u-face-off
A good entry port. If this is the starting point for Wii U ports, then the console shows a lot of promise.
Yall, this is not maxy's post but random GAF nidiot's.
VII remake? Am i missing something?Perpetual unconfirmed rumor/Fanboy and girl wishful thinking.
Customers would probably been amazed by New Super Mario Bros. U if it wasn't for NSMB, NSMBW, and NSMB2.
I really like the Pro controller. Going to try it out right now with Tekken Tag 2.
figured I'd get the black opinion on WiiU
http://www.the-coli.com/arcadium/62585-man-wii-u-whew.html#.ULG1Y2eJ6So
will be watching this over the next few days
figured I'd get the black opinion on WiiU
http://www.the-coli.com/arcadium/62585-man-wii-u-whew.html#.ULG1Y2eJ6So
will be watching this over the next few days
Could Reggie/Nintendo be sued over the COD comment?
That was a good interview. Some actual tough questions. The specs talk must have been a dagger in Reggies heart. He wasn't expecting that. :lol
Could Reggie/Nintendo be sued over the COD comment?
Sooo... we seriously don't have specs yet? Wtf? A tech site hasn't ripped this fucker apart? I mean, it's not like there's a shortage of them or anything. :smug
(http://www.abload.de/img/reggieinfoministerqxbb2.png)
I've been playing call of duty on wii u and I think it does look better.
Care to grab pics from DF's comparison shots the support how it looks better?
if you need to scrutinize a bunch of comparison shots to be tell the difference between the two it means they're pretty much the same.
It was very telling when even Reggie could only say stocks are low in the US, meaning they haven't sold out.
Gamecube <3
Gamecube <3
oh wow, this was on top. This is (I'm an expert) level::rofl
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44715557&postcount=10358
Bore off!
i say, bore on, my brethren
I had my buddy over at my house the other day and he said he was really excited to be playing a Nintendo console and that he was happy because everywhere he had been they had sold out. My friend played Zombi U with me and said that they were the best graphics he had ever seen on a console, much better than Uncharted 2 on his PS3, he said. My friend said that it was probably because Ubisoft made use of GPGPU. We played for about 3 hours and then the gamepad died, to which my friend mentioned was a very honorable thing for Nintendo to do so that people wouldn't play for too long. We plugged the gamepad back in and my friend said that the distance of the cord was not that bad, and then we started using the Wii U's browser to watch YouTube videos and read SmashBros fanfics. My friend said that he could feel that the Wii U's browser was at least 50 HTML5 points higher than his 360's.
When he finally left, my friend told me that he was very impressed by the Wii U and that he thought it was going to make lots of money for Iwata-san and that he was very envious of me. I went to my room and jacked off into my Pikachu N64's cartridge slot like I do every night, and then went to bed with my framed photograph of Miyamoto-sama clutched tightly in hand.
Gamecube <3
Fake. You can tell because he said the Wii U was sold out everywhere.
I went low in the Japan sales prediction thread and upset one or two folk because NINTENDOJESUSRAPTOR.
People calling 1m Wii U sales in Japan might be in for a shock. I'd be stunned if they even ship that many
:bow Gamecube
:bow When Nintendo was third place
Game Cube was fuckin' great. Played mine all the time. It made up for the shitty N64 and I thought that N64's lack of good third party support/lack of good games was just limited to that POS. Then the Game Cube "died" early and nothing going for it after 2004 and the Wii also had pretty much nothing going for it apart from 1-2 Nintendo games a year during the last couple of years. Even "exclusive" games like Samurai Warriors 3 ended up on other consoles. :lolI went low in the Japan sales prediction thread and upset one or two folk because NINTENDOJESUSRAPTOR.
People calling 1m Wii U sales in Japan might be in for a shock. I'd be stunned if they even ship that many
But won't it sell that much just because of crazy ass Monster Hunter sales alone?
:bow Gamecube
:bow When Nintendo was third place
:bow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwrrwSmo0yU
:lol
I get the feeling the Wii U was a pretty hard sell on Black Friday, with all those pallets of $200 360 and PS3 bundles around.
:bow Gamecube
:bow When Nintendo was third place
:bow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwrrwSmo0yU
:lol
OMG, I remember that song, I don't think I've heard it in like 10 years. :lol
:bow Gamecube
:bow When Nintendo was third place
:bow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwrrwSmo0yU
:lol
OMG, I remember that song, I don't think I've heard it in like 10 years. :lol
Does anyone have a clue as to why the discs are rounded on the side?
I got out my Gamecube today, but I couldn't find the component cable and they're over $100 on ebay. I want to cry now. :gloomy It'd be cheaper to rebuy an old Wii to play GC in 480p than a component cable.
The last good nintendo console was the Snes, real talk.
(http://www.abload.de/img/reggieinfoministerqxbb2.png)
:rofl :rofl :rofl
*righ click, save as*
Andrex, you can expect to see this approximately 5 million times in the future
I cant imagine having that level of emotion towards a hobby lolIt looks like he also microwaved a Vita. Equal opportunity console destroyer.
(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c121/KParrott/wavebirdwobedraggled2-1.jpg)
I know I'm alone but boy I enjoyed Billy Hatcher
I know I'm alone but boy I enjoyed Billy Hatcher
You are not alone- I still have my copy
I came to the Gamecube right around the time RE4 came out, but I thought it was pretty great. The controller was odd, but it was totally serviceable.
I think it was Andrex complaining about this earlier, but it sounds like the reason the 360 controller doesn't work in NSMBU is that it doesn't have motion sensing stuff in it.
I think it was Andrex complaining about this earlier, but it sounds like the reason the 360 controller doesn't work in NSMBU is that it doesn't have motion sensing stuff in it.
that thing is $50, and they couldn't throw a gyro in it? smh
Only 400k sold. Ouch.
Only 400k sold. Ouch.
Really? :lol Whats your source?
Oh man if the 360 will outsell it this month I will love to see the spin on that!
Really? :lol Whats your source?
Oh man if the 360 will outsell it this month I will love to see the spin on that!
Only 400k sold. Ouch.
Who really cares.. Your choices in consoles don't need to be defended...
Who really cares.. Your choices in consoles don't need to be defended...
:spin *irony overload* :spin
WOW you haters.. The Wii U sold out.. That's good regardless of how you want to spin it.. The Wii U launch was a huge success in America. Europe is next so we will see how it fairs in Sony Land..
Initial estimates were they would sell out and that's great. Especially since the Wii at sub 100.00 did 300,000.. a 300-350 console sold very well.
Just stop trying to bash the Wii U at every turn we get it some of you don't like it fine.. Who really cares.. Your choices in consoles don't need to be defended...
Lets see if the Wii-U can maintain a good sales pace in the next few weeks however..
Who really cares.. Your choices in consoles don't need to be defended...
:spin *irony overload* :spin
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44762764&postcount=67
NYTimes is tweeting me saying these numbers are really good. Can someone give me the real talk?
NYTimes is tweeting me saying these numbers are really good. Can someone give me the real talk?
I'm really hoping that the 3DS picks up in sales in the US, since I really want some of those awesome awesome games that Japan is keeping from us...The problem with that is the same one that kept Xenoblade from coming over here forever...
I'm really hoping that the 3DS picks up in sales in the US, since I really want some of those awesome awesome games that Japan is keeping from us...The problem with that is the same one that kept Xenoblade from coming over here forever...
They should port Xenoblade to the 3DS.
They should port NSMBU to the DS
A better idea would be a "New" Super Mario Bros. game that actually has new graphics, music, and game play features.
Hey, here's a crazy idea: How about a new (2D) Mario with new worlds and enemies? Insane, I know.
A better idea would be a "New" Super Mario Bros. game that actually has new graphics, music, and game play features.
Hey, here's a crazy idea: How about a new (2D) Mario with new worlds and enemies? Insane, I know.
Now you're just being unreasonable. Why do that when they can fart out the same assets and it'll sell millions?*
And I'll keep buying cause the level designs are pretty good. :'( Well for the console ones anyways.
original Wii sold 600k in 8 days :violin
I'm really hoping that the 3DS picks up in sales in the US, since I really want some of those awesome awesome games that Japan is keeping from us...
Only 400k sold. Ouch.
Anyways I feel like I should jump into some AAA HD gaming for the first time and can't choose between Darksiders 2 and AssCreed 3. NG3 is poo, ME3 is apparently poo
you're a moron for going all digital
Get DS2 and still get Mass Effect 3. AC3 is still good but a real mess too.
DS2 ports apparently really solid yah
ALSO wtf didnt they do a full trilogy release for WiiU LAMMMMMMMMEEEE I woulda bought that
i heard the port of ds2 had some gamebreaking bugs?
you're a moron for going all digital
Just gonna put this here...you're a moron for going all digital
DS2 ports apparently really solid yah
ALSO wtf didnt they do a full trilogy release for WiiU LAMMMMMMMMEEEE I woulda bought that
Yeah the other thing about ME3 was I didn't play the first two so the story would seem pretty pointless.you're a moron for going all digital
Definitely but it's my lifestyle choice so (http://i.imgur.com/2WLcK.gif)
Speaking of I haven't opened Ninthingland yet and I was wondering if I should sell it. I was gonna use Thanksgiving as an excuse to bust it out with the fam but they just wanted to play Mario. The Nthings on GAF says it's surprisingly good but I'm wary of their opinions because they're morons.
Goddamn fucking shitty ass Nintendo and their fucking shitty ass transfer tool.
This = Me (http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/11/how-nintendo-drm-trapped-400-of-downloaded-games-on-my-failing-wii/)
FUCK
I thought I didn't have any goodwill left for this rotting corpse of company but they just had to wiggle the knife into my back.
Name some names you coward.
It's definitely going to be interesting to see how Nintendo copes with HD development. It's hit a lot of Japanese devs hard, and while I don't think they'll be too worse off, they probably won't hit their amount of Wii output. Which will definitely depress some people.
Anyways I feel like I should jump into some AAA HD gaming for the first time and can't choose between Darksiders 2 and AssCreed 3. NG3 is poo, ME3 is apparently poo, Epic Mickey is poo, not much of an FPSer so Blops is out, waiting for ZombiU to drop in price, and Sonic has a gamestopping bug. I'd probably choose Batman but it's a poo port and not on the eShop.
Uhh... who told you ME3 is shit? Bitter Ninfags? ME3 is awesome, easily BEST game out of the all you listed inlcuding 4.5/10 Zombie U.
I'm more worried about jumping into the third game of a franchise that made a big deal out of cross-game save dataDon't believe everything you hear on internet.Mass Effect cross-game save data is just a nice fan sevice,nothing more.
IF this thing was apple tv sized with a small portable bar etc - then fine - but it's still just a smaller shit box.
People calling $99 - watch as batshit Iwata and co slap a $179 price tag on it.
$99? Gross.
Fucking hit $50 so I can play Ghost Squad again, Nintendo.
(http://i.imgur.com/NW9iu.jpg)
at least it looks okay.
I only played House of the Dead Overkill as far as wii lightgun games go. Lightgun games aren't as fun without a partner though.
I only played House of the Dead Overkill as far as wii lightgun games go. Lightgun games aren't as fun without a partner though.
Ghost Squad was fuckin' awesome because it offered 4P simultaneous play in the party mode. :rock
Take Yoshi on an epic adventure to remember in Yoshi Land for Nintendo Wii U. Check out Yoshi as you've never seen him before: in glorious high definition. Enjoy dual-screen control thanks to the Wii U Touchscreen GamePad, while you'll also be able to experience full integration with Nintendo's MiiVerse service.
Join everyone's favourite dinosaur in his first big starring role on Nintendo Wii U - Yoshi's Land. Utilise the power of the Wii U Touchscreen GamePad to enjoy dual-screen fun in this epic adventure with stunning HD graphics and connectivity with the MiiVerse.
I guess this Yoshi's Land for Wii U might be real. It was on that leaked miiverse topic menu last week, supposedly announcing during a December 10th event. Now two Canadian shops have different descriptions:QuoteTake Yoshi on an epic adventure to remember in Yoshi Land for Nintendo Wii U. Check out Yoshi as you've never seen him before: in glorious high definition. Enjoy dual-screen control thanks to the Wii U Touchscreen GamePad, while you'll also be able to experience full integration with Nintendo's MiiVerse service.QuoteJoin everyone's favourite dinosaur in his first big starring role on Nintendo Wii U - Yoshi's Land. Utilise the power of the Wii U Touchscreen GamePad to enjoy dual-screen fun in this epic adventure with stunning HD graphics and connectivity with the MiiVerse.
emphasis on dual-screen/touchscreen :-\
Virtua Cop for life fools.
I guess this Yoshi's Land for Wii U might be real. It was on that leaked miiverse topic menu last week, supposedly announcing during a December 10th event. Now two Canadian shops have different descriptions:QuoteTake Yoshi on an epic adventure to remember in Yoshi Land for Nintendo Wii U. Check out Yoshi as you've never seen him before: in glorious high definition. Enjoy dual-screen control thanks to the Wii U Touchscreen GamePad, while you'll also be able to experience full integration with Nintendo's MiiVerse service.QuoteJoin everyone's favourite dinosaur in his first big starring role on Nintendo Wii U - Yoshi's Land. Utilise the power of the Wii U Touchscreen GamePad to enjoy dual-screen fun in this epic adventure with stunning HD graphics and connectivity with the MiiVerse.
emphasis on dual-screen/touchscreen :-\
Are the HD graphics "glorious" or "stunning"? ???spoiler (click to show/hide)Or "antiquated"? ;)[close]
Probably another baby difficulty Yoshi game. If this is a true successor to Yoshi's Island, I might have to actually buy a Wii U.
As opposed to the baby difficulty nintendo games we've been getting since Galaxy?
I imagine they're just going to recycle Yoshi's Island DS assets for this new Yoshi game for the Wii U.
Are the HD graphics "glorious" or "stunning"? ???spoiler (click to show/hide)Or "antiquated"? ;)[close]
I could see them going the MSF HD route with it. Basically YI concept art in HD. Yum.
Take Yoshi on an epic adventure to remember in Yoshi Land for Nintendo Wii U. Check out Yoshi as you've never seen him before: in glorious high definition (that's that thing we told you didn't matter for 8 years - please update your opinion to "of critical importance to my penile excitement!!!!)". Choke on dual-screen control thanks to the stupid decission to look at the Wii U Touchscreen GamePad, while also trying to game on the TV. Yup, we're out of ideas - the DS workes with two screens so we thought "Hey, maybe we can do this in the home?" You'll never guess what the big draw of the Wii U2 is?! Yup.... 3D BITCHAASSS!!! Also connect to Nintendo's MiiVerse service for highly censored time delayed comments on why this game is so so so 3/5 awesome! P.S. we have outsourced this to some Japanese team you've never heard of - 90% of you will jizz over who it is despite having never heard of them, the other 10% will realise it's some budget Tose-like offshoot. The hilarious reveal is that it's a company made up of the ashes of Artoon! "ACTUALLY, Flingsmash was pretty good!!!" lol - you suckasses !
Are the HD graphics "glorious" or "stunning"? ???spoiler (click to show/hide)Or "antiquated"? ;)[close]
I could see them going the MSF HD route with it. Basically YI concept art in HD. Yum.
Yeah or they could have a bunch of shitty poorly modeled CG, wonder which one they'll go with
So, the tablet battery life is really bad. According to the daily log thing it lasted 3 hours with power saving on, level 3 brightness, and a period where I turned the screen off while playing with the remote.
and even though it looks kinda fake since the mock-up picture is just the wii u 360 controller mixed up a bit (those second set of start/select wtf?), this controller is advertised to work as a wii remote. Possibility it can work with virtual console and wii remote only games.
Virtua Cop for life fools.
It is BULLSHIT that Virtua Cop 3 never got a port. I NEVER got to play this, which is extra fuckin weird because I lived in Japan for 10 years
So, the tablet battery life is really bad. According to the daily log thing it lasted 3 hours with power saving on, level 3 brightness, and a period where I turned the screen off while playing with the remote.
and even though it looks kinda fake since the mock-up picture is just the wii u 360 controller mixed up a bit (those second set of start/select wtf?), this controller is advertised to work as a wii remote. Possibility it can work with virtual console and wii remote only games.
I'm guessing that's just a Wii Classic Controller with some Wiimote stuff jammed into it. I'm not sure how it would work otherwise, since it's my understanding that only Wii controllers work with Wii games (although you can use Wiimotes with Wii U stuff). I could be wrong though. Either way it seems kinda sketchy, like the crap peripherals that 3rd party makers used to try to trick you into buying back in the 80/90's.
Yes, it will become a problem almost immediately. About half of the space in the basic version is used for storing the operating system. The other half will be filled by updates in no time. I can understand getting it if you want a white console, otherwise it's just bad value.
I thought you could use a USB adapter to trick the system into thinking it's a external HDD. That might be a cheaper alternative than dedicating a real hard drive.
Wii U codenames worth knowing: system Cafe, CPU Espresso, GPU/SoC/etc. Latte, ARM secure processor Starbuck (we made that one up).
1.243125GHz, exactly. 3 PowerPC 750 type cores (similar to Wii's Broadway, but more cache). GPU core at 549.999755MHz.
we're calling the WiiU security processor the Starbuck (vs. Starlet on Wii). And it seems to be about equally vulnerable, too
@digitalfoundry sorry, I'd rather not talk about how I got that yet. It doesn't involve leaks, it involves Wii U hacks ;)
I literally am looking for popcorn to consume while I monitor the GAF thread.
ITT: people that don't understand clock speed isn't as an important factor in modern cpu/gpu architecture
I expected speeds right around this ballpark, with ooe and the chunk of edram it should still serve up some great looking software down the line.
Just cool to have the number so we don't have to speculate anymore
ITT: people that don't understand clock speed isn't as an important factor in modern cpu/gpu architecture
I expected speeds right around this ballpark, with ooe and the chunk of edram it should still serve up some great looking software down the line.
Just cool to have the number so we don't have to speculate anymore
Cool copy/paste, bro.
ouya will probably get more next gen ports than this
That Haunted post has to be a troll.
right?
Nintendo::rofl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNQRqAoT-2c
:rofl
Classic movie
I gotta say the spin Nintards came up with now:
"well if it is indeed that slow CPU (gimme the receipts!) then Wii U is an amazing piece of tech if it can run Batman, ME3, AC3 looking 95% as good as the PS360 versions despite having CPU 66% slower! Dat GPGPU!"
Shin'en strikes again.
"The CPU and GPU are a good match. As said before, today’s hardware has bottlenecks with memory throughput when you don’t care about your coding style and data layout. This is true for any hardware and can’t be only cured by throwing more megahertz and cores on it. Fortunately Nintendo made very wise choices for cache layout, ram latency and ram size to work against these pitfalls. Also Nintendo took care that other components like the Wii U GamePad screen streaming, or the built-in camera don’t put a burden on the CPU or GPU."
You hear that? Stop focusing on Mhz. Focus on the architecture.
Fifa 13 demo is up for EU users.10 tries only
Hector Martin @marcan42
The Espresso is an out of order design with a much shorter pipeline. It should win big on IPC on most code, but it has weak SIMD.
Hector Martin @marcan42
It's worth noting that Espresso is *not* comparable clock per clock to a Xenon or a Cell. Think P4 vs. P3-derived Core series.
Hector Martin @marcan42
No hardware threads. One per core. No new SIMD, just paired singles. But it's a saner core than the P4esque stuff in 360/PS3.
ZombiU is a game trapped in the wrong genre. The run-and-gun multiplayer modes emphasise the game's competent shooting mechanics and ability to create interesting enemy encounters. However those two aspects of play are de-emphasised in the game proper, replaced with a bare minimum of story, and some simple puzzles. ZombiU could have been an enjoyable action game, but instead it is a poor entry in the survival horror genre.
Wii U 'Has A Horrible, Slow CPU' Says Metro Last Light Devhttp://www.nowgamer.com/news/1687689/wii_u_has_a_horrible_slow_cpu_says_metro_last_light_dev.html
David Lynch
Wii U's tech specs aren't as impressive as initially thought and 4A Games won't be bringing Metro: Last Light to Nintendo's new console.
Published on Nov 20, 2012
Nintendo’s Wii U is out in the US and with reports coming in that its struggling in a number of areas, many are claiming its third party games aren’t quite up to the visual standard of their Xbox 360 and PS3 cousins.
That the Wii U struggles to render games (that run perfectly on the Xbox 360 and the PS3) is a worrying trend for Nintendo. In fact, some games currently scheduled for release on the 360, PS3 and PC won’t be heading to the Wii U at all because of the differences in processing power.
One of these titles will be 4 A Games’ Metro: Last Light. Chief technical officer, Oles Shishkovtsov, explains why Metro’s sequel won’t be appearing.
“[The] Wii U has a horrible, slow CPU,” explained Shishkovtsov. “We had an early look at it, we thought we could probably do it, but in terms of the impact we would make on the overall quality of the game – potentially to its detriment – we just figured it wasn’t worth pursuing at this time. It’s something we might return to. I really couldn’t make any promises, though.”
Despite Nintendo’s console offering Metro: Last Light new experiences to its players with it dual screens, when asked Shishkovtsov was adamant that the Wii U would ever seen Metro: Last Light when asked directly.
“We had an initial look at the Wii U, but given the size of the team and compared to where we were last time, just developing for the Playstation 3 is a significant addition.”
I just checked the internal data for our Black Friday numbers* and wanted to let you know that over the Holiday weekend:
Xbox 360 sold more than 750,000 consoles in the U.S. alone –exceeding internal forecasts.
Three month Xbox LIVE Gold Subscription sales increased more than 50 percent compared to last year’s Black Friday week.
We saw incredible activity on Xbox over the weekend. For example, on Sunday alone we had more than 14 million people on Xbox LIVE across the world, racking up more than 72 million hours of use in just one day.
Compared to 2011, we’ve seen a 43 percent increase in U.S. entertainment application hours logged on Xbox LIVE during the week of Black Friday.
* Sunday, Nov. 18 – Friday, Nov. 23
http://kotaku.com/5962012/560-people-are-paying-black-ops-ii-online-on-the-wii-u-right-now
Kotaku started the story, twitter had some extra numbers (below)
Wii U: 512 multiplayer, 42 zombies.
Steam: 64,015 peak multiplayer. 1,868 zombies current. 9.716 peak zombies.
PS3: 570,000 multiplayer. 115,000 zombies.
360: 641,000 multiplayer. 800,000 on launch day.
sound like its gonna get the ps3 defense (its different but "awesome", even though most games still don't beat its competitor performance wise)
They're both CG cutscenes. Why would a full motion video have jagged shadows?Low res shadow map?
The problem Nintendo has is their market aims. It seems to be a conscious choice.
To the enthusiast gamer, everything that's not as powerful as current technology allows is "gimped". It's a bit like an auto enthusiast who rails that a mass market consumer minivan is a piece of crap because somewhere in the world, there are Ferraris. It's true that the minivan is no Ferrari, so the enthusiast has a point - but he's also missing the point that the minivan's job is not to be a Ferrari. And in some ways, it's better... like cargo capacity, fuel efficiency, etc.
It's hard for me even with this news to see the Wii U's hardware as "Nintendo cheeps out on j00 suckers". Because Nintendo's goal was not to make a $500 console that was way more powerful than PS360 plus included an iPad. Again, their self-chosen path and problem is that they deal with the mass market. A $300 console (the base model) sounds like their absolute upper limit for MSRP, to not scare away the authentic mainstream audience. Within that price, their concept for the system included an expensive to develop, and not cheap to produce touch screen / motion sensing interface device.
Nintendo doesn't seem to have "gimped" on anything within the price range they had to remain within, considering the total components that make up the system. If the Xbox 360 had ha a cheaper CPU, it could have had more ram, for example. But there were specific priorities and they were followed. Wii U was designed with specific priorities and this is what we got.
The joke with the FUD being spread is that you still have ports like ACIII at launch, made in a rush, that effectively look and run about like the PS3 version of the same game. If people stopped and thought for a moment, they'd see that clearly, something in Nintendo's design strategy for the console is working. Otherwise that game would not exist on Wii U and if it did, never with that kind of port parity.
Edit: I would add that the most questionable thing in the entire matter IMO is Nintendo's very obvious entreaties to 3rd parties about Wii U being friendly towards them from a development and power standpoint. Obviously, working on the console involves some major strategic shifts and while that doesn't mean the hardware is bad, it probably does make Nintendo's official PR line sound like damage control. But then we have all those months and months of some 3rd parties saying the hardware is great, some griping it sucks, etc etc. Opinions, woohah!
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44879942&postcount=773 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44879942&postcount=773)QuoteI just can't accept that the Wii U sucks
:lol
It will be a though year for Nintendo headquarters if this thing doesn't sell well,especially in the West.
:geoff
It will be a though year for Nintendo headquarters if this thing doesn't sell well,especially in the West.
:geoff
They can always go back to making playing cards!
It will be a though year for Nintendo headquarters if this thing doesn't sell well,especially in the West.
:geoff
They can always go back to making playing cards!
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44879942&postcount=773 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44879942&postcount=773)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44882925&postcount=977
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44884177&postcount=1091
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44885409&postcount=1180
Developers love low clock speeds because it forces them to be more creative, resulting in better games. Because that's totally what happened on the Wii, oh man all those GOTYs coming out weekly, we were just drowning in them!
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44882925&postcount=977
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44884177&postcount=1091
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44885409&postcount=1180
Developers love low clock speeds because it forces them to be more creative, resulting in better games. Because that's totally what happened on the Wii, oh man all those GOTYs coming out weekly, we were just drowning in them!
It will be, but that wasn't my point. My point was, world-class developers don't care about specs. It's about what they can do with the hardware. They don't whine and cry about a lack of "power", they just make something badass.
The Wii U's online system right now has account names, friend requests, a digital distribution platform, YouTube, etc. Unless you like paying double the cost of your console so that you can download games onto your friend's hardware, I'd say they have a better platform than Microsoft.
The Wii U's online system right now has account names, friend requests, a digital distribution platform, YouTube, etc. Unless you like paying double the cost of your console so that you can download games onto your friend's hardware, I'd say they have a better platform than Microsoft.
What's so stupid is Nintendo could have a more powerful machine at the same price point and profit margin, but they force a low power consumption and sizing requirement. I guess they do that because it's preferable in Japan, but console gaming is like dead in Japan. Why design it for that market?
:-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
This guy can't be serious, please tell me it isn't possible to be this out of touch with reality:QuoteThe Wii U's online system right now has account names, friend requests, a digital distribution platform, YouTube, etc. Unless you like paying double the cost of your console so that you can download games onto your friend's hardware, I'd say they have a better platform than Microsoft.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44885908&postcount=1234 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44885908&postcount=1234)
We're experiencing flat out shameful, incompetent design. Decade-old hardware in a primarily $350 box is not necessary or even particularly beneficial in order to secure an aggressive profit margin, and having power trade-offs with the 360/PS3 architectures ensures bad press and unhappy port-buyers from the beginning, when upgraded current gen ports were very much part of the launch strategy. Fils-Aime has to run laughably dishonest damage control on a daily basis as part of this catastrophic failure to produce a technologically viable system -- again, at such a premium price point.
No worries, though. I'm sure soccer moms worldwide, with their iPads and Nexus 7s sitting on the coffee table, will be enthralled by the unique selling point of a living room tethered, two hour battery life, PDA-era resistive touch screen tablet controller.
Lore weighs in.QuoteWe're experiencing flat out shameful, incompetent design. Decade-old hardware in a primarily $350 box is not necessary or even particularly beneficial in order to secure an aggressive profit margin, and having power trade-offs with the 360/PS3 architectures ensures bad press and unhappy port-buyers from the beginning, when upgraded current gen ports were very much part of the launch strategy. Fils-Aime has to run laughably dishonest damage control on a daily basis as part of this catastrophic failure to produce a technologically viable system -- again, at such a premium price point.
No worries, though. I'm sure soccer moms worldwide, with their iPads and Nexus 7s sitting on the coffee table, will be enthralled by the unique selling point of a living room tethered, two hour battery life, PDA-era resistive touch screen tablet controller.
We all know that there is nothing that hurts ninthings more than sales.All of this will be nothing if WiiU hardware and software start underperforming.
We all know that there is nothing that hurts ninthings more than sales.All of this will be nothing if WiiU hardware and software start underperforming.
realistically the focus will shift to sales in Japan, since those are the only ones that matter (à la PSP)
We all know that there is nothing that hurts ninthings more than sales.All of this will be nothing if WiiU hardware and software start underperforming.
maxy knows whats up
There is no architecture old enough (try Commodore 64) Nintards won't champion as long as the sales are impressive.
damn HAL is working overtime in that GAF thread :lol :lol :lol :lol
I have a feeling he's gonna be banned pretty soon if he keeps it up. "All my friends at Retro are totally stoked for Wii U! Trust me! Trust them! Disclaimer: Retro is a first party Nintendo studio."
Zelda looks gorgeous. **** the haters. Especially that fight shot with that knight. And the master sword in the forest. GotfM!!!
damn HAL is working overtime in that GAF thread :lol :lol :lol :lol
damn HAL is working overtime in that GAF thread :lol :lol :lol :lol
Not anymore. :lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsxti_REgtU
I can't believe I never picked up the port of this sick ass game
Evilore personally stepped in and chopped him down for his "I'M NOT THE CRAZY ONE, YOU'RE THE CRAZY ONES!" post.
damn HAL is working overtime in that GAF thread :lol :lol :lol :lol
I have a feeling he's gonna be banned pretty soon if he keeps it up. "All my friends at Retro are totally stoked for Wii U! Trust me! Trust them! Disclaimer: Retro is a first party Nintendo studio."
damn HAL is working overtime in that GAF thread :lol :lol :lol :lol
Not anymore. :lol
yea because we all know they will bite the hand that feeds them ::), dude is distinguished mentally-challenged.
Called it.Evilore personally stepped in and chopped him down for his "I'M NOT THE CRAZY ONE, YOU'RE THE CRAZY ONES!" post.
Link? Thread is hard to keep up with.
yea because we all know they will bite the hand that feeds them ::), dude is distinguished mentally-challenged.
To be entirely fair, he's citing off the record conversation had over beers and gaming, so I can buy that an employee would genuinely be excited about what they're working on if that's what they're saying in that context. However, what I found baffling about this was that this was completely inconsequential insider information to tease. HAL wasn't even asserting that he had seen anything himself that he just wasn't allowed to talk about. "I can't talk about it, but I've seen it and I think some people are going to be surprised" is insider info that -- accurate or not -- is actually worth throwing out. "My buddy who's working on it tells me that it's great" is completely worthless info, especially when offered authoritatively.
No worries, though. I'm sure soccer moms worldwide, with their iPads and Nexus 7s sitting on the coffee table, will be enthralled by the unique selling point of a living room tethered, two hour battery life, PDA-era resistive touch screen tablet controller.
Now things are just getting goofy:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44895419&postcount=1742
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44895538&postcount=1749
He can tell from the pixels and from seeing some polygons in his days.
I and MANY other people were pretty wowed by stuff like Mario Galaxy, Xenoblade, Red Steel 2, Monster Hunter Tri, Last Story, and Skyward Sword.
The Wii put out some pretty incredible visuals in relation to the hardware it was on.
I expect the same to be the case with Wii U.
Ghost Squad always reminds me of Ninja Squad.
Ghost Squad always reminds me of Ninja Squad.
You want ninjas in your Ghost Squad?
YOU GOT IT!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfxqjlnGGPM
Holy shit he's like Nick Rox but he can count polygons instead of cut animation frames from Capcom Saturn ports
Did you guys know you can do this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nccbSpJ9Ozc
that jordan dude is embarrassing
Apparently, according to a link further up, bgassassin suggested they actually switched the core type after the first kit, not just clockspeed. That the core was originally something more xenon like with mt per core etc. But I don't know if that's true or not.
Yea that's not true. Was more or less same CPU whole time. Only real CPU change was the clock speed was raised 25% between I believe Cat-Dev V3 and V4.
The Wii put out some pretty incredible visuals in relation to the hardware it was on.
Euro launch
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Oh shit! Europeans get to get in on the fun. ROUND 2
Anyone care to explain?
I don't understand what exactly is so funny or "hilarious" about the Wii U's faults. I never got the whole derisive laughter thing. Anyone care to explain?
Euro launch
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Euro launch
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The que numbers will triple once Nintendo fans get out of school :bow
Euro launch
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The que numbers will triple once Nintendo fans get out of kindergarten :bow
This was too easy.
I don't understand what exactly is so funny or "hilarious" about the Wii U's faults. I never got the whole derisive laughter thing. Anyone care to explain?
I don't understand what exactly is so funny or "hilarious" about the Wii U's faults. I never got the whole derisive laughter thing. Anyone care to explain?
Keep in mind that this is purely a demonstration at this stage. Depending on how things progress and what direction development takes, we may or may not release something like this in this form. Please don’t ask for release dates. We’d rather spend time investigating the new system than putting together a release that may or may not end up being the Right Way to do things in the future ;).
Please ignore the blue blinks. The monitor kind of sucks at syncing to component video sometimes. I would’ve used HDMI, but the Wii U cannot output analog audio simultaneously with HDMI (at least not for the Wii U menu part), and I cannot capture HDMI audio.
Mario U is actually great so far. Same old game but the levels are quality and it can look nice at times. Has some of that Mario Galaxy sheen and isn't quite so flat and charisma vacuumious like the Wii game.
Other than the music, all that's 'bad' about the game are the coin placements. I've gotten all in the first four worlds and most of them are behind a fake wall. You know, the completely innocuous looking walls that you can walk through. It means two things:
1) If you want the coins, sometimes you gotta just rub up against walls. The levels are well designed in general, but it doesn't have those suspicious looking areas where you feel the coins could be.
2) It's not skill based. I may be misremembering how it was in NSMB Wii, but between Galaxy 2 and 3D Land, some of the bonus coins were fun to get. They weren't just "hidden" to be found. Sometimes they were in plain sight and getting to them was the challenge. The coins in NSMBU are just pretty lazy so far.
And this isn't a positive or negative, but the 'seamless' world ain't like Super Mario World's. It's more like Mario 3 with the worlds connected.
I don't understand what exactly is so funny or "hilarious" about the Wii U's faults. I never got the whole derisive laughter thing. Anyone care to explain?
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Kosma got a nice tan 8)
I thought that was European Triforce Johnson.
Btw why is the guy in the background holding Mario's nose?
4 360's :rofl
I haven't seen framerates that bad since I tried to play Perfect Dark without the RAM upgrade!
No AI to burden whimsy cpu.
No AI to burden whimsy cpu.
No other players, either.
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ok, trolling aside, that's just plain bad. objectively so.
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(That's a developer of the game, setting mandatory platforms down with the GamePad while he navigates the level with the Wiimote in order to beat it. This game needs the "For Super Players... ONLY" subtitle.)
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ok, trolling aside, that's just plain bad. objectively so.
I think you're meant to play with a friend. One person 'boosting' on the pad; the other playing the game normally.
In any case, Nintendo d-pads have all been the same since the Nintendo DS Lite... The d-pad IS Much better than past Nintendo d-pads
Wii U end of first mission of Black Ops 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd74NJG9YiU
Xbox 360 end of same mission:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NEp_r7Ilus
Dat GPGPU.... dat eDRAM.
Andrex I hope you've played enough 2D sidescrollers other than Mario to make that statement, cause if not SMH.
I 200/200 Super Meat Boy with 360 analog sticks.*highfive*
Andrex, please.
The no-coin challenges are funny because they force you to go against years of ingrained gamer urges. Those coins are RIGHT THERE, begging you to take them!
Despite all the shittalking, I kinda want to play NSMBU.
Despite all the shittalking, I kinda want to play NSMBU.
basically - it's NSMBU and Monster Hunter and the other games can go piss on a brick
Giantbomb's WiiU did a hard lock when they were doing a quicklook for Funky Barn.
what the hell is wrong with that OS?
Giantbomb's WiiU did a hard lock when they were doing a quicklook for Funky Barn.
what the hell is wrong with that OS?
Giantbomb's WiiU did a hard lock when they were doing a quicklook for Funky Barn.
what the hell is wrong with that OS?
Seems like a game thing.
NSMBU: No hard locks for me and others
Nintendoland: Tons of hard locks according to GAF
Might partially be a game thing then.
I'm sure Nintendo will fix that once they start selling standalone gamepads.
So apparently WiiU doesnt support DLC for games currently.
Yeah you read that right.
so after a week of no WiiU I decided to find out what was taking so long with getting a new gamepad sent out to us. It seems that the gamepad is linked to the specific WiiU console and at this time you can only have one paired with the WiiU. So now I have to send the damn console in as well. There is no way to unlink the two once they are paired. We better not loose anything on the fucking console, so help me god I was looking forward to some FUNKY BARN!
WTF NINTENDO!!! Seriously this is some stupid fucking shit!
so after a week of no WiiU I decided to find out what was taking so long with getting a new gamepad sent out to us. It seems that the gamepad is linked to the specific WiiU console and at this time you can only have one paired with the WiiU. So now I have to send the damn console in as well. There is no way to unlink the two once they are paired. We better not loose anything on the fucking console, so help me god I was looking forward to some FUNKY BARN!
WTF NINTENDO!!! Seriously this is some stupid fucking shit!
Wait, you can't unpair a gamepad?
You must be shitting me
So apparently WiiU doesnt support DLC for games currently.
Yeah you read that right.
Yeah, they're gonna fix that in the patch that makes Netflix and Hulu work.
It's a fairly advanced setup and outside of what I'd consider Nintendo's technological comfort zone, but it's Nintendo so time to blind hate I guess.
It's a fairly advanced setup and outside of what I'd consider Nintendo's technological comfort zone, but it's Nintendo so time to blind hate I guess.
It's a fairly advanced setup and outside of what I'd consider Nintendo's technological comfort zone, but it's Nintendo so time to blind hate I guess.
I certainly don't expect Nintendo to properly execute 7-year-old established standards
Talking about the original. I'm in no rush to get another 3DS. When it drops in price and gets better color choices, that's when I'll probably get one.
Just saying that Criticism isn't blind hate. Everyone's saying "Hey, Nintendo can do better" and people defend it with "NO, IT CAN'T! IT'S GOOD ENOUGH."
I guess I'm not allowed to be impressed by something if someone else has done it before.
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Just saying that Criticism isn't blind hate. Everyone's saying "Hey, Nintendo can do better" and people defend it with "NO, IT CAN'T! IT'S GOOD ENOUGH."
*AV's post wasn't criticism, it was mocking Nintendo for doing something right, which I don't get.
Android and iPhone didn't have IAP until years after their first versions. *shrugs* I guess I'm not allowed to be impressed by something if someone else has done it before.
No, I was mocking you for defending an arcane setup with wishful thinking about what Nintendo maybe might do later, especially since what you think they maybe might should do is emulate a purchasing model that is near-universally loathed and is available on a second-tier app market from an OS that is literally given away for free. And not, you know, the XBox 360.
BTW - the DLC in NSMB2 was in no way fine. Setting aside that it was way more expensive than typical IAP purchases I've seen on Android or iOS, I had to enable some feature I barely knew about and then put my console on standby for two days (plugged in of course) to even make it available.
QuoteAndroid and iPhone didn't have IAP until years after their first versions. *shrugs* I guess I'm not allowed to be impressed by something if someone else has done it before.
I know this a response to a specific quip - but I've noticed a lot of nthings go back to something older to compare the wiiu's woes with. The 8-4 boys did it a lot in the latest cast: well, x360 did this wrong, ps3 did this wrong, so Nintendo are fine
Why not compare WiiU with Vita? IAP, online store, OS cross game functions ... It's. no good pointing at other companies woes in the past. The icing on the cake is the predictions of future woes for x720, like somehow they'll forget the two gens of online/gaming OS experience and just fuck everything up
The wiiU feature setis getting compared to the X360/ps3 -now- because that's the market reality - and when the x720/ps4 come along that reality will get a whole lot harsher if Nintendo are still dragging their feet
What would you think if you found Miyamoto online on Blops 2?
What would you think if you found Miyamoto online on Blops 2?I'd think "easy kill"
maybe his gardener game will be first person
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=45013099&postcount=34
"revolutionary social networking"
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=45013099&postcount=34
"revolutionary social networking"
people should get together and make a mockery out of it by posting stuff like "Everything is wonderful! I love you all! Please don't delete me!" over and over.
Thank these guys
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Professional Internet networking solutions. Plus they are local to Kyoto, so that's GREAT for Nintendo. They only have one cable modem though, so you might want to wait until 3am to try again
Thank these guys
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Professional Internet networking solutions. Plus they are local to Kyoto, so that's GREAT for Nintendo. They only have one cable modem though, so you might want to wait until 3am to try again
Thank these guys
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Professional Internet networking solutions. Plus they are local to Kyoto, so that's GREAT for Nintendo. They only have one cable modem though, so you might want to wait until 3am to try again
Why are downloads so slow in the U.S.? Is it because they... "hate NA"?
The answer was in front of us all along.
Nothing inspires confidence like a corporate logo that has a question mark in it.
'We might figure it out?'
Thank these guys
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Professional Internet networking solutions. Plus they are local to Kyoto, so that's GREAT for Nintendo. They only have one cable modem though, so you might want to wait until 3am to try again
Why are downloads so slow in the U.S.? Is it because they... "hate NA"?
The answer was in front of us all along.
Latest http://Nintendo.com update lists Version 2.1.0 U as improving stability and minor interface adjustments.
Size: 593mb
QuoteLatest http://Nintendo.com update lists Version 2.1.0 U as improving stability and minor interface adjustments.QuoteSize: 593mb
:derp
few more updates and they'll have to leave the basic set behind
Eshop still slow.
Miiverse still slow.
Slow OS is slow.
System never crashed for me so whatever.
Just found a problem... after the update... It can't read my HD.. ugh
few more updates and they'll have to leave the basic set behind
NCL has announced a presentation by Satoru Iwata today, Dec. 5th at 8 pm in Japan, covering the Wii U launch in 3 days.
When does the Japanese presentation in my time zone? Click this link for worldwide times.
Where can I watch it? Right here: http://www.nintendo.co.jp/nintendo_direct/sp/index.html
I will be providing live translations here in the OP and on my Twitter feed, @Cheesemeister3k.
NOA has announced a Nintendo Direct for Dec. 5th at 12 pm EST.
NOE will be holding a Nintendo Direct presentation on Dec. 5th at 5 pm GMT, simultaneous with NOA, both covering Wii U and 3DS software for the remainder of the year and into 2013.
When do the western presentations start in my time zone? Click this link for worldwide times.
Where can I watch the NOA presentation? Right here: http://www.nintendo.com/nintendo-direct/
Where can I watch the NOE presentation? Right here: http://www.nintendo.co.uk/Misc-/Nint...ct-638747.html
20:42 Display the screen on the TV at the same time, as well. Google Maps on Wii U will go up around the end of January, and will be free through the end of March. Free download for a limited time, will become a pay download afterward.
20:42 Display the screen on the TV at the same time, as well. Google Maps on Wii U will go up around the end of January, and will be free through the end of March. Free download for a limited time, will become a pay download afterward.
Nintendo is probably having you download everything over again. Instead of just patching select files.
You're gonna have to pay for google maps???
Quote20:42 Display the screen on the TV at the same time, as well. Google Maps on Wii U will go up around the end of January, and will be free through the end of March. Free download for a limited time, will become a pay download afterward.
few more updates and they'll have to leave the basic set behind
Just knock them all offline and call it the Wii U Mini.
4th December 2012 – Nintendo of Europe has announced a new edition of Nintendo Direct for tomorrow, 5th December, set to focus on games coming to Wii U and Nintendo 3DS in the remainder of 2012 and the first months of 2013.
The newly announced Nintendo Direct presentation will be streamed from the Nintendo Direct website on 5 th December from 5pm GMT and will be hosted by Nintendo of Europe President Satoru Shibata.
For further details:
Nintendo Direct website http://nintendo.co.uk/nintendodirect
Nintendo Direct on Ustream http://www.ustream.tv/NintendoUK
Wii U website http://wiiu.co.uk
Nintendo 3DS XL website http://www.nintendo3ds.co.uk
Nintendo 3DS Guided Tour http://guidedtour.nintendo.co.uk
Wii U (UK) on Facebook http://facebook.com/WiiU.co.uk
Nintendo of Europe on Twitter https://twitter.com/nintendoeurope
Nintendo UK on Twitter https://twitter.com/nintendouk
Nintendo UK on YouTube http://www.youtube.com/NintendoUKofficial
Quote20:42 Display the screen on the TV at the same time, as well. Google Maps on Wii U will go up around the end of January, and will be free through the end of March. Free download for a limited time, will become a pay download afterward.
Fire Emblem!
Wii U saved 4 realz now, dawgz.
So the post launch drought legacy continues.
Didn't they charge for the browser at first on the Wii?
I know, this story is absurd, I'm swearing at my bad luck.
I purchased a WiiU (EU) on launch day last week from gamestop, the black deluxe set (Premium Pack in Italy).
This morning some STUPID thieves entered my home and stole my portable PC, my 3DS and ONLY the GamePad with its cradle! They didn't even know what it was!
Any suggestion on what I could do? I contacted Nintendo but the only thing they told me has been "the GamePad alone is still not for sale". WTF? So I won't be able to play some games until the pad will be on sale since they can't be played without it? (like some Nintendoland games).
I'm totally distressed and don't know what I could do.
NeoGAF I summon thee ç_ç
So if you break your pad you need to buy a new console?
Will third parties be allowed to manufacture/sell them? Has that ever been addressed?
So if you break your pad you need to buy a new console?
That seems to be the case as of now. Are they actually going to sell GamePads at retail at some point? Who knows. But previously it was thought that they would. And if that's the case, clearly they will have to come up with a way to decouple GamePads.
So if you break your pad you need to buy a new console?
That seems to be the case as of now. Are they actually going to sell GamePads at retail at some point? Who knows. But previously it was thought that they would. And if that's the case, clearly they will have to come up with a way to decouple GamePads.
Wouldn't selling the gamepads at retail cause confusion among consumers? I can see people buying one with the intention of using it as a second controller...
So if you break your pad you need to buy a new console?
That seems to be the case as of now. Are they actually going to sell GamePads at retail at some point? Who knows. But previously it was thought that they would. And if that's the case, clearly they will have to come up with a way to decouple GamePads.
Wouldn't selling the gamepads at retail cause confusion among consumers? I can see people buying one with the intention of using it as a second controller...
So if you break your pad you need to buy a new console?
Is there a new firmware update? Shit just started downloading, it's taken 45 minutes so far
What a turd
So if you break your pad you need to buy a new console?
Buy a new console and oh, by the way, all of your digital games are gone now since they're impossible to transfer.
Nintendo and pricing software according to their value is no so good. $40 Steel Diver everyone.
Need a replacement Wii U controller? FUCK OFF AND BUY A NEW WII U!QuoteI know, this story is absurd, I'm swearing at my bad luck.
I purchased a WiiU (EU) on launch day last week from gamestop, the black deluxe set (Premium Pack in Italy).
This morning some STUPID thieves entered my home and stole my portable PC, my 3DS and ONLY the GamePad with its cradle! They didn't even know what it was!
Any suggestion on what I could do? I contacted Nintendo but the only thing they told me has been "the GamePad alone is still not for sale". WTF? So I won't be able to play some games until the pad will be on sale since they can't be played without it? (like some Nintendoland games).
I'm totally distressed and don't know what I could do.
NeoGAF I summon thee ç_ç
Need a replacement Wii U controller? FUCK OFF AND BUY A NEW WII U!QuoteI know, this story is absurd, I'm swearing at my bad luck.
I purchased a WiiU (EU) on launch day last week from gamestop, the black deluxe set (Premium Pack in Italy).
This morning some STUPID thieves entered my home and stole my portable PC, my 3DS and ONLY the GamePad with its cradle! They didn't even know what it was!
Any suggestion on what I could do? I contacted Nintendo but the only thing they told me has been "the GamePad alone is still not for sale". WTF? So I won't be able to play some games until the pad will be on sale since they can't be played without it? (like some Nintendoland games).
I'm totally distressed and don't know what I could do.
NeoGAF I summon thee ç_ç
I don't get it. Is it the wannabe gangsta bandana or the shitty console he's using instead of a laptop like a normal person?
Eh, I'm of the opinion that the flexible compromise between big screen gaming and real portability is very cool feature of the console. Being able to play stuff like that on the train is pretty cool. Where I'm down on it is that I don't think that that particular flexibility justifies all the compromises made in designing the machine, as this type of functionality doesn't extend beyond being nifty into the realm of meaningfully defining it. Use cases like this are cool, but nothing about it screams "Will the next Xbox and PS4 have a GamePad like device? No? Then I'm sticking with my Wii U, thank you very much."
Eh, I'm of the opinion that the flexible compromise between big screen gaming and real portability is very cool feature of the console. Being able to play stuff like that on the train is pretty cool. Where I'm down on it is that I don't think that that particular flexibility justifies all the compromises made in designing the machine, as this type of functionality doesn't extend beyond being nifty into the realm of meaningfully defining it. Use cases like this are cool, but nothing about it screams "Will the next Xbox and PS4 have a GamePad like device? No? Then I'm sticking with my Wii U, thank you very much."
It would only be cool if you could play EVERY game on the pad and a nice range, also through WiFI if you go too far.
What is that from? :lol
Also, is that guy a military otaku?
"Psh, stupid Japanese people. Pocky and seaweed are vastly inferior to the sophisticated Doritos and Mountain Dew in the U.S. I need to get the fuck out of this shit hole."
Yeah there's no real reason to get a Wii U at this time unless you _have_ to play NSMBU.
there probably isn't going to be a whole lot coming for it, period
third parties just don't seem all that interested, and i'll bet the ones that have expressed interest are looking at those launch game sales and going "Uhhhhh, yeeeeeahhh, about that Wii U...yeah..."
Yeah there's no real reason to get a Wii U at this time unless you _have_ to play NSMBU.
Nintendo is going to drop this turkey in price anywhere from $50-100 in the next several months. There probably isn't going to be a whole lot coming out for it either in the first few months of next year, nothing that can't wait anyway.
So basically it will be like the Wii then.
It still was a shock to see games like Arkham City or Darksiders 2 at launch. Nintards who whine about lack of third party support better look at these sales and understand why third parties are going to run away from this thing.
A brain, moran
Why get on board this flaming wreck? It's going to get price dropped hard.
A brain, moran
Why get on board this flaming wreck? It's going to get price dropped hard.
There's literally nothing else for me to get with the $300 worth of gift cards. Well, I could get a Vita... lol. Wish people last year would've given me money towards a grill or something instead of GS cards, but I guess people still think I actually like video games.
I mean, I'm gonna need one eventually for the Monolith gamespoiler (click to show/hide)provided ape-man Wedgie doesn't fuck us over again[close]
save them for durango.
Nintendo is incredibly smart. I own an iPad 3, Xbox 360, PS3, and a laptop. I went from a hardcore iPAD nut to realizing very quickly that most of the things that I love to do on my iPad, I can now do on my Wii U Gamepad.
NINTENDO is going to be the last one laughing. I'm no analyst and I'm purely speculating. However, I think that Nintendo really has a long term plan, at least in the next three years, that's going to surprise everyone.
1. Wii household penetration is 96 million.
Look at that number for a second. Never mind that moms and grandmas only bought one game, and that the hardcore have tossed the system in their closets. That 96 million is an audience that Nintendo actually STILL has, and growing when you consider how cheap the wii has become, and will continue to get. When you add in stuff like the canadian 100.00 wii w/o wifi (surely, they're going to expand that), and one acknowledges that the price will drop even more, you have a situation where, theoretically, anybody who wants a fitness and casual party machine can have one. Nintendo already has the capability to do what Microsoft is TRYING to do next generation with their rumored two-sku casual/hardcore system. The box is already in people's homes. All Ninty needs to do is supply a stream of creative casual software for that base, and they will NEVER need another system again. And, if they do...
2. The Wii U. It doesn't need much to succeed.
Of the 96 million people that own a wii, 4 million are actual hardcore gamers. This number can be surmised by the amount of Zeldas and Mario Galaxies sold. Specifically Zelda. That number says that there are 4 million dedicated playing gamers on the Wii Console. Those are the hardcore gamers that stuck with Nintendo.
Now, factor in people like me. I left Nintendo at Gamecube. I've always loved Nintendo, but refused to stay with them in the SD era with their steadfast stance on the wii mote control scheme. That's where I drew the line. Essentially, the Wii U is the HD Wii with a control that I can actually use, with the addition of the controls of the wii - now improved - with Motion Plus. So what does that mean exactly? I get to play all of the good stuff - should I choose to go backwards - with all of the teething out of the way with any growing platform. So my reward in 2012? A Nintendo system with the parity of current gen consoles, and the added bonus of fantastic Nintendo experiences that I ignored for the last 6 years.
If you go under the assumption that Nintendo is not interested in being a hardcore gamer's PRIMARY console, this opens up some very interesting avenues. Should Nintendo get even TEN percent of SONY and XBOX owners to pick up the Wii U as a SECONDARY console, you start to see something very interesting....
a. 4 Million gamers are currently WITH Nintendo as evidenced by Zelda sales.
b. 5-10 million (10% of 50 million) over 4 years pick up Wii U as a secondary system. (50 mill MS owners, 50 mill PS3 owners, 10% = 5-10 mill).
Potentially, over the next 4 years, Wii begins to have a very quiet foothold. Not including the casuals that might upgrade within the next 4 years - which we could conservatively estimate at 1 million), Wii U probable install base by 2015-2016 is an additional 10 million households. Again, this is JUST for the hardcore. Never mind the atomic bomb sitting in 96 million people's closets already, which can be capitalized on at any time as an entertainment APPLIANCE.
I suspect that Pachter may be very wrong here. 10 million hardcore people (conservatively) is a VERY attractive audience to 3rd parties. Why? Consider...
3. Easy Ports.
Looking at the Wii Launch on the surface, and the gut reaction to the hardware breakdowns is that Wii U was a disaster. The CPU - on paper - bottlenecks performance. The system isn't going to be worth anything once the next gen consoles come out. Etc, etc.
Now, let's look at what ACTUALLY happened. As wonky as Arkham City looked, or as glitchy as (insert game) was, the reality is that Nintendo didn't give anybody final Dev kits until the very last second. Basically, these launch games are actually minor miracles. Or, to be certain, DIRECT ports without a shitload of time for optimization on the WiiU.
Let's REALLY consider that for a second. Given time and resources, I think most developers could get nearly anything to run as good as anything on the current gen hardware competitors. I said in another post that it was unlikely, but that's before I did some research. Put plainly, ANYTHING on the current gen systems can very likely run WELL on the WiiU with enough time and tweaking. The games that we see at launch are actually a testament to the power of the system and it's ease of development. Those games run like this and are this 'solid' without being given real TLC time. Imagine what happens when a developer is given that time?
So now the regular line of thinking on GAF is, so what? The Next Gen is right around he corner! That, and my argument goes...
4. Are we REALLY that ready for next gen?
You guys watch the same shows that I do. Bonus Round. GTTV. You read Kotaku. You laugh at the 'analyst' stories. However, one thing is VERY obvious: These games aren't cheap to make. Period. So I'm looking at Star Wars 1313 and Watch Dogs going, MAN, these games LOOK amazing, right? We're talking YEAR ONE PS4 and X720 games looking that good. Easy.
But I think that everyone reading GAF knows that once our inner graphics lust subsides, that core game has to shine through. At this rate, the next generation is looking like a LOT more Call of Duty, Halo, and insert big AAA franchise. I'm saying, "that's totally cool! There's totally a place for that!" However, when you listen to the devs talk, you'll hear a lot about 'freemium models' and IAPs, DLC, and better Xbox Live infrastructure. Sure, some of them do talk about better animations and voice acting, but mostly, over the past year, we've heard a LOT about making micro-transactions and cloud gaming better in the next generation. Frankly, even if the graphics are 5x more powerful on the next consoles, it won't be enough to KEEP gamers. It certainly won't be enough to win over a ton of new ones?
We've reached the law of diminishing returns when it comes to graphics. It was very easy to justify going from SD to HD, even to casuals. The experience of playing, say, Madden is that much more improved - dramatically visually - from PS2 to PS3. The jump in the next gen? Probably not so much. At least not at the cost that the consumer is willing to pay.
I'm reading Pachter's quote above, and he's right. From a business perspective, COD *should* be monetizing the multiplayer. That's kind of my point. If you're looking at the next generation from a completely business perspective - and with the cost of gaming and the financial investment that it takes to create a new game these days - these monetary factors take the utmost importance. This is why all you're hearing about next gen is improvements on backend stuff. Will there be a jump in graphics? Of course. Will it matter ultimately? Not with these studios dying or being absorbed left and right. That's not what I personally want the gaming future to be, ie, a series of micro-transactions...
Which brings me to the graphics engines.
5. That Unreal 4 Engine.
Go big or go home, right? What's so sweet about it is that, like the UNITY engine, the engine is made to be easy to use. Of the upcoming engines, this is supposedly the easiest to use, and is scaleable by platform. I'm no dev, so I'm only going by what the press says.
The idea, according to Epic, was to bring some of the development costs down. Ideally, a creator, even a 3D artist theoretically, can make a competent game fairly quickly utilizing UE4. At least that's the sales pitch.
Unless these various next-gen engines are incredibly easy to use, these development costs are going to continue to be through the roof. And to what end? As we look at the games that have impressed us at this point in the cycle, ART has stood out more than engine performance. Do we want graphically powerful games? Sure. But would, say SKYRIM be THAT much better with better tech, or could the game go on for two more years with well rounded DLC that builds on the existing world they've created? Walking Dead and Journey, two of this year's VGA GOTY games aren't technological powerhouses, but story or art driven experiences that have unique visual styles. Even Dishonored, which isn't pushing the most advanced engine in the world stands out for it's gameplay and artistic choices.
In fact, I'll go out on a limb as saying that we've not seen NEARLY the end of what this generation can do with regards to new gaming experiences. Rockstar and Bethesda has gone on record as saying that they're TOTALLY FINE with this generation. With the current installed user base, I have a hard time believing that any amount of PR, marketing, or graphic bump will convince anyone to shell out the, what? 400.00 for ANY new next gen console? At least not in the numbers of success we've seen in THIS generation.
Not without some sort of technological experience enhancing evolution. Something like...
6. Oculus Rift.
There's a reason that half the industry lost their shit when they experienced the OR. It's a way to experience games in a way that has been dreamed about for years. Since many of us where children. Screw 3D gaming and screw Holograms. OR allows you to experience new AND OLD games in an entirely new way if it actually works.
OR is the type of thing that would grab the casuals AND the hardcore, which is why I think we've seen it in the development docs of the Microsoft leaks, and why VR has been hinted at with the next Playstation. Problem is, Kinect, while interesting, doesn't QUITE work, and MOVE never caught on. Then, a funny thing happened while i was playing my WiiU...
7. Nintendo Might be closer to VR than anybody else.
Once you listen to Carmak talk about latency and speed, then you see the Wii U gamepad, you realize that Nintendo has actually licked it. They've got the foundation for it right there in their Wii U. Essentially, isn't the Oculus Rift just TWO gamepads screens stuck to a head mounted unit? the motion control with the gamepad is damn near 1:1, and incredibly impressive. What would happen if Ninty sold some type of game enhancing add-on - and for the sake of argument, we'll call it a Virtual Boy 2 - and changed the way we experience EXISTING games? Now, things like Skyrim, Doom, hell, ANY existing game becomes a lot more interesting, and, NOW POSSIBLE on the WiiU.
However, even with that possibility, i still don't think that's Nintendo's real secret weapon.
8. The E-store and comfortable social gaming.
Nintendo is incredibly smart. I own an iPad 3, Xbox 360, PS3, and a laptop. I went from a hardcore iPAD nut to realizing very quickly that most of the things that I love to do on my iPad, I can now do on my Wii U Gamepad. Even Web browsing. It can't be said enough how comfortable web-browsing is with the Gamepad. More, when I'm playing NSMBU, I actually play it - prefer it, actually - on the gamepad. Sure, I wish that it had that crisp iPAD resolution, but the Gamepad is more comfortable, has analog sticks that work beautifully, and has actually made me question when/if more indie devs from steam and iOS will begin to make games for Nintendo with the ability to set their own price.
While iOS/mobile devs are trying desperately to keep their games noticed and monetized with bottom barrel prices and iAP trickery, some of those games will actually work better on the gamepad fetching higher prices. $10.00 for just about ANY indie game seems like a fair starting price, wouldn't you say? Nintendo seems to think so. It's like they're setting a minimum for quality again, and they've secretly given the portability of the iPAD with a home console. You can't actually appreciate it until you've tried using the gamepad to play the games. It's a thing of beauty, and Nintendo knows that this is something that the competitors can't do. Perhaps Sony with some kind of VITA/PS3 combination, but it will take effort and will be an afterthought. With the WiiU, this attack was planned.
9. First Party Ace.
The real reason (I suspect) that Nintendo didn't put out the Wii HD sooner is because they couldn't. They physically COULDN'T. They don't have large dev teams. They don't have the resources. They do what they do EXTREMELY well, which is make excellent games. This is their Ace in the hole. Didn't we just read a report this week about how despite MS Xbox success, it isn't enough to hold MS? Or, that Sony is struggling because of the weight of their OTHER divisions outside of gaming? The competition has always had more money to throw at their pet projects than Nintendo. Now, we're starting to see as we go into the next gen that despite Xbox and Playstation's varying levels of success, ultimately, they were simply side projects of larger corporations.
Gaming is ALL Nintendo does. They don't over-extend. They watch, wait, and execute. This is so obvious with the WiiU. I have no clue what RETRO is working on, but I promise that the their hinted engine will really WOW people with regards to what the system can do. Iwata has said as much. The slow trickle of first gen mega-hits will be impressive, I think, but will require an incredible patience from the fans. This is why that ease of porting from 3rd parties is so important. However, the real gem comes from the indie devs and Miyamoto's secret first party master class at Nintendo.
The announcement was a quiet one, but while Nintendo Japan restructured into a single location pulling vets from Square and a number of other Japanese powerhouses to make first party games, Miyamoto pretty much becomes headmaster of developing talent.
Expect Miyamoto-san and the brightest from Nintendo to release a stream of small Game-pad friendly e-store titles, of a speed and quality the likes of which Nintendo has never done before. Essentially the e-store will be the Apple Store, but with more quality. Tons of indie games, tons of First party nintendo smaller games, and if we're lucky, some HD re-releases of GC and Wii classics.
Nintendo knows that they cannot put out 5 HUGE games a year. Their announcement of working with studios to create the larger games was like a light in the dark. Japan has talked about real east-west development, and Nintendo is actually making that happen.
The gamepad and e-store is Ninty's biggest weapon that nobody saw coming.
While Sony and MS plan out their goliath machines for 2013 or 2014, the wiiU might be exactly what enough people might want as a secondary console such that with the above outlined strategy, it potentially becomes people's ONLY console within 2-3 years.
That's my guess.
that took me way too long to realize it wasn't Oscars post.
NINTENDO is going to be the last one laughing. I'm no analyst and I'm purely speculating. However, I think that Nintendo really has a long term plan, at least in the next three years, that's going to surprise everyone.
1. Wii household penetration is 96 million.
Look at that number for a second. Never mind that moms and grandmas only bought one game, and that the hardcore have tossed the system in their closets. That 96 million is an audience that Nintendo actually STILL has, and growing when you consider how cheap the wii has become, and will continue to get. When you add in stuff like the canadian 100.00 wii w/o wifi (surely, they're going to expand that), and one acknowledges that the price will drop even more, you have a situation where, theoretically, anybody who wants a fitness and casual party machine can have one. Nintendo already has the capability to do what Microsoft is TRYING to do next generation with their rumored two-sku casual/hardcore system. The box is already in people's homes. All Ninty needs to do is supply a stream of creative casual software for that base, and they will NEVER need another system again. And, if they do...
2. The Wii U. It doesn't need much to succeed.
Of the 96 million people that own a wii, 4 million are actual hardcore gamers. This number can be surmised by the amount of Zeldas and Mario Galaxies sold. Specifically Zelda. That number says that there are 4 million dedicated playing gamers on the Wii Console. Those are the hardcore gamers that stuck with Nintendo.
Now, factor in people like me. I left Nintendo at Gamecube. I've always loved Nintendo, but refused to stay with them in the SD era with their steadfast stance on the wii mote control scheme. That's where I drew the line. Essentially, the Wii U is the HD Wii with a control that I can actually use, with the addition of the controls of the wii - now improved - with Motion Plus. So what does that mean exactly? I get to play all of the good stuff - should I choose to go backwards - with all of the teething out of the way with any growing platform. So my reward in 2012? A Nintendo system with the parity of current gen consoles, and the added bonus of fantastic Nintendo experiences that I ignored for the last 6 years.
If you go under the assumption that Nintendo is not interested in being a hardcore gamer's PRIMARY console, this opens up some very interesting avenues. Should Nintendo get even TEN percent of SONY and XBOX owners to pick up the Wii U as a SECONDARY console, you start to see something very interesting....
a. 4 Million gamers are currently WITH Nintendo as evidenced by Zelda sales.
b. 5-10 million (10% of 50 million) over 4 years pick up Wii U as a secondary system. (50 mill MS owners, 50 mill PS3 owners, 10% = 5-10 mill).
Potentially, over the next 4 years, Wii begins to have a very quiet foothold. Not including the casuals that might upgrade within the next 4 years - which we could conservatively estimate at 1 million), Wii U probable install base by 2015-2016 is an additional 10 million households. Again, this is JUST for the hardcore. Never mind the atomic bomb sitting in 96 million people's closets already, which can be capitalized on at any time as an entertainment APPLIANCE.
I suspect that Pachter may be very wrong here. 10 million hardcore people (conservatively) is a VERY attractive audience to 3rd parties. Why? Consider...
3. Easy Ports.
Looking at the Wii Launch on the surface, and the gut reaction to the hardware breakdowns is that Wii U was a disaster. The CPU - on paper - bottlenecks performance. The system isn't going to be worth anything once the next gen consoles come out. Etc, etc.
Now, let's look at what ACTUALLY happened. As wonky as Arkham City looked, or as glitchy as (insert game) was, the reality is that Nintendo didn't give anybody final Dev kits until the very last second. Basically, these launch games are actually minor miracles. Or, to be certain, DIRECT ports without a shitload of time for optimization on the WiiU.
Let's REALLY consider that for a second. Given time and resources, I think most developers could get nearly anything to run as good as anything on the current gen hardware competitors. I said in another post that it was unlikely, but that's before I did some research. Put plainly, ANYTHING on the current gen systems can very likely run WELL on the WiiU with enough time and tweaking. The games that we see at launch are actually a testament to the power of the system and it's ease of development. Those games run like this and are this 'solid' without being given real TLC time. Imagine what happens when a developer is given that time?
So now the regular line of thinking on GAF is, so what? The Next Gen is right around he corner! That, and my argument goes...
4. Are we REALLY that ready for next gen?
You guys watch the same shows that I do. Bonus Round. GTTV. You read Kotaku. You laugh at the 'analyst' stories. However, one thing is VERY obvious: These games aren't cheap to make. Period. So I'm looking at Star Wars 1313 and Watch Dogs going, MAN, these games LOOK amazing, right? We're talking YEAR ONE PS4 and X720 games looking that good. Easy.
But I think that everyone reading GAF knows that once our inner graphics lust subsides, that core game has to shine through. At this rate, the next generation is looking like a LOT more Call of Duty, Halo, and insert big AAA franchise. I'm saying, "that's totally cool! There's totally a place for that!" However, when you listen to the devs talk, you'll hear a lot about 'freemium models' and IAPs, DLC, and better Xbox Live infrastructure. Sure, some of them do talk about better animations and voice acting, but mostly, over the past year, we've heard a LOT about making micro-transactions and cloud gaming better in the next generation. Frankly, even if the graphics are 5x more powerful on the next consoles, it won't be enough to KEEP gamers. It certainly won't be enough to win over a ton of new ones?
We've reached the law of diminishing returns when it comes to graphics. It was very easy to justify going from SD to HD, even to casuals. The experience of playing, say, Madden is that much more improved - dramatically visually - from PS2 to PS3. The jump in the next gen? Probably not so much. At least not at the cost that the consumer is willing to pay.
I'm reading Pachter's quote above, and he's right. From a business perspective, COD *should* be monetizing the multiplayer. That's kind of my point. If you're looking at the next generation from a completely business perspective - and with the cost of gaming and the financial investment that it takes to create a new game these days - these monetary factors take the utmost importance. This is why all you're hearing about next gen is improvements on backend stuff. Will there be a jump in graphics? Of course. Will it matter ultimately? Not with these studios dying or being absorbed left and right. That's not what I personally want the gaming future to be, ie, a series of micro-transactions...
Which brings me to the graphics engines.
5. That Unreal 4 Engine.
Go big or go home, right? What's so sweet about it is that, like the UNITY engine, the engine is made to be easy to use. Of the upcoming engines, this is supposedly the easiest to use, and is scaleable by platform. I'm no dev, so I'm only going by what the press says.
The idea, according to Epic, was to bring some of the development costs down. Ideally, a creator, even a 3D artist theoretically, can make a competent game fairly quickly utilizing UE4. At least that's the sales pitch.
Unless these various next-gen engines are incredibly easy to use, these development costs are going to continue to be through the roof. And to what end? As we look at the games that have impressed us at this point in the cycle, ART has stood out more than engine performance. Do we want graphically powerful games? Sure. But would, say SKYRIM be THAT much better with better tech, or could the game go on for two more years with well rounded DLC that builds on the existing world they've created? Walking Dead and Journey, two of this year's VGA GOTY games aren't technological powerhouses, but story or art driven experiences that have unique visual styles. Even Dishonored, which isn't pushing the most advanced engine in the world stands out for it's gameplay and artistic choices.
In fact, I'll go out on a limb as saying that we've not seen NEARLY the end of what this generation can do with regards to new gaming experiences. Rockstar and Bethesda has gone on record as saying that they're TOTALLY FINE with this generation. With the current installed user base, I have a hard time believing that any amount of PR, marketing, or graphic bump will convince anyone to shell out the, what? 400.00 for ANY new next gen console? At least not in the numbers of success we've seen in THIS generation.
Not without some sort of technological experience enhancing evolution. Something like...
6. Oculus Rift.
There's a reason that half the industry lost their shit when they experienced the OR. It's a way to experience games in a way that has been dreamed about for years. Since many of us where children. Screw 3D gaming and screw Holograms. OR allows you to experience new AND OLD games in an entirely new way if it actually works.
OR is the type of thing that would grab the casuals AND the hardcore, which is why I think we've seen it in the development docs of the Microsoft leaks, and why VR has been hinted at with the next Playstation. Problem is, Kinect, while interesting, doesn't QUITE work, and MOVE never caught on. Then, a funny thing happened while i was playing my WiiU...
7. Nintendo Might be closer to VR than anybody else.
Once you listen to Carmak talk about latency and speed, then you see the Wii U gamepad, you realize that Nintendo has actually licked it. They've got the foundation for it right there in their Wii U. Essentially, isn't the Oculus Rift just TWO gamepads screens stuck to a head mounted unit? the motion control with the gamepad is damn near 1:1, and incredibly impressive. What would happen if Ninty sold some type of game enhancing add-on - and for the sake of argument, we'll call it a Virtual Boy 2 - and changed the way we experience EXISTING games? Now, things like Skyrim, Doom, hell, ANY existing game becomes a lot more interesting, and, NOW POSSIBLE on the WiiU.
However, even with that possibility, i still don't think that's Nintendo's real secret weapon.
8. The E-store and comfortable social gaming.
Nintendo is incredibly smart. I own an iPad 3, Xbox 360, PS3, and a laptop. I went from a hardcore iPAD nut to realizing very quickly that most of the things that I love to do on my iPad, I can now do on my Wii U Gamepad. Even Web browsing. It can't be said enough how comfortable web-browsing is with the Gamepad. More, when I'm playing NSMBU, I actually play it - prefer it, actually - on the gamepad. Sure, I wish that it had that crisp iPAD resolution, but the Gamepad is more comfortable, has analog sticks that work beautifully, and has actually made me question when/if more indie devs from steam and iOS will begin to make games for Nintendo with the ability to set their own price.
While iOS/mobile devs are trying desperately to keep their games noticed and monetized with bottom barrel prices and iAP trickery, some of those games will actually work better on the gamepad fetching higher prices. $10.00 for just about ANY indie game seems like a fair starting price, wouldn't you say? Nintendo seems to think so. It's like they're setting a minimum for quality again, and they've secretly given the portability of the iPAD with a home console. You can't actually appreciate it until you've tried using the gamepad to play the games. It's a thing of beauty, and Nintendo knows that this is something that the competitors can't do. Perhaps Sony with some kind of VITA/PS3 combination, but it will take effort and will be an afterthought. With the WiiU, this attack was planned.
9. First Party Ace.
The real reason (I suspect) that Nintendo didn't put out the Wii HD sooner is because they couldn't. They physically COULDN'T. They don't have large dev teams. They don't have the resources. They do what they do EXTREMELY well, which is make excellent games. This is their Ace in the hole. Didn't we just read a report this week about how despite MS Xbox success, it isn't enough to hold MS? Or, that Sony is struggling because of the weight of their OTHER divisions outside of gaming? The competition has always had more money to throw at their pet projects than Nintendo. Now, we're starting to see as we go into the next gen that despite Xbox and Playstation's varying levels of success, ultimately, they were simply side projects of larger corporations.
Gaming is ALL Nintendo does. They don't over-extend. They watch, wait, and execute. This is so obvious with the WiiU. I have no clue what RETRO is working on, but I promise that the their hinted engine will really WOW people with regards to what the system can do. Iwata has said as much. The slow trickle of first gen mega-hits will be impressive, I think, but will require an incredible patience from the fans. This is why that ease of porting from 3rd parties is so important. However, the real gem comes from the indie devs and Miyamoto's secret first party master class at Nintendo.
The announcement was a quiet one, but while Nintendo Japan restructured into a single location pulling vets from Square and a number of other Japanese powerhouses to make first party games, Miyamoto pretty much becomes headmaster of developing talent.
Expect Miyamoto-san and the brightest from Nintendo to release a stream of small Game-pad friendly e-store titles, of a speed and quality the likes of which Nintendo has never done before. Essentially the e-store will be the Apple Store, but with more quality. Tons of indie games, tons of First party nintendo smaller games, and if we're lucky, some HD re-releases of GC and Wii classics.
Nintendo knows that they cannot put out 5 HUGE games a year. Their announcement of working with studios to create the larger games was like a light in the dark. Japan has talked about real east-west development, and Nintendo is actually making that happen.
The gamepad and e-store is Ninty's biggest weapon that nobody saw coming.
While Sony and MS plan out their goliath machines for 2013 or 2014, the wiiU might be exactly what enough people might want as a secondary console such that with the above outlined strategy, it potentially becomes people's ONLY console within 2-3 years.
That's my guess.
4. Are we REALLY that ready for next gen?
I think you're forgetting about a little something I like to call Nintendo Land.
Nintendo Might be closer to VR than anybody else.
i thought oscar was quoting some ninthing gaffer :'(
edit: oh, he WAS. wow, am i doubleplus distinguished mentally-challenged today?
While Sony and MS plan out their goliath machines for 2013 or 2014, the wiiU might be exactly what enough people might want as a secondary console such that with the above outlined strategy, it potentially becomes people's ONLY console within 2-3 years.
That's my guess.
The European Nintendo Wii U eShop has restricted content during the daytime, it has been revealed, such that users cannot access 18+ rated content in the online store before 11pm each day.
Attempting to view trailers or screenshots for a game like ZombiU during the day results in a message noting, "You cannot view this content. The times during which this content can be viewed have been restricted."
18+ rated content cannot be purchased or downloaded during the day either. This message still appears even if a user has parental controls turned off.
As noted by a user on NeoGAF, a Nintendo Italy representative explained that 18+ content is restricted between the hours of 11pm and 3am as "an additional precaution to make sure that minors cannot access content which is inappropriate for their age."
"Nintendo has always aimed to offer gameplay experiences suited to all age groups, observing carefully all the relevant regulations regarding content access that are present in the various European countries," continued the Nintendo rep. Gamasutra has contacted Nintendo for further comment on the move.
The restrictions are similar to others seen in certain European countries like Germany, where some online purchases rated 18+ cannot be bought until after the watershed.
Eurogamer has just tested this and it appears to be true. We were unable to access Assassin's Creed 3 information or buy ZombiU digitally.
This is going to tank M rated games even harder. Good job, NoE.
Wait... you cannot BUY M-rated content during the day? I *could* understand banning screens and videos but banning users from buying content?
18+ rated content cannot be purchased or downloaded during the day either.
seems like a clever ploy to drive gamers to E-rated Nintendo games
Besides, shouldn't shit like passwords and such cover all this well enough?
Nintendo DOES NOT CARE.
seriously - this is why Nintendo are fucking belly fluff right now - just get rid. We don't need these tired fucking old scrote ideas telling people how to and WHEN to use their own fucking content. Absolutely fucking appalling and anyone defending these shit for brain cock suckers is , frankly, a cunt.
Real talk: I don't think I'd lose anything if Nintendo went under right now. I'm more than content with what they offered before and can't be bothered to care about whichever possibly great but most likely shitty retread of old nintendo games released every 3-5 years. And judging by the people who still buy em, only around 5 million people out of the 100+ million would give a shit if Zelda isn't coming out anymore.
Seriously. I've chosen to ignore the Wii U and now I feel like my decision was validated, I'm also not going to be bothered by the newest Zelda or Metroid even if they turn out to be amazing. I've lost interest, as I'm sure many before me have.
seriously - this is why Nintendo are fucking belly fluff right now - just get rid. We don't need these tired fucking old scrote ideas telling people how to and WHEN to use their own fucking content. Absolutely fucking appalling and anyone defending these shit for brain cock suckers is , frankly, a cunt.
Real talk: I don't think I'd lose anything if Nintendo went under right now. I'm more than content with what they offered before and can't be bothered to care about whichever possibly great but most likely shitty retread of old nintendo games released every 3-5 years. And judging by the people who still buy em, only around 5 million people out of the 100+ million would give a shit if Zelda isn't coming out anymore.
Seriously. I've chosen to ignore the Wii U and now I feel like my decision was validated, I'm also not going to be bothered by the newest Zelda or Metroid even if they turn out to be amazing. I've lost interest, as I'm sure many before me have.
so lets get this right....
adult content not available until whenever
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"it's like living in NAZI GERMANY!"
seriously - this is why Nintendo are fucking belly fluff right now - just get rid. We don't need these tired fucking old scrote ideas telling people how to and WHEN to use their own fucking content. Absolutely fucking appalling and anyone defending these shit for brain cock suckers is , frankly, a cunt.
Real talk: I don't think I'd lose anything if Nintendo went under right now. I'm more than content with what they offered before and can't be bothered to care about whichever possibly great but most likely shitty retread of old nintendo games released every 3-5 years. And judging by the people who still buy em, only around 5 million people out of the 100+ million would give a shit if Zelda isn't coming out anymore.
Seriously. I've chosen to ignore the Wii U and now I feel like my decision was validated, I'm also not going to be bothered by the newest Zelda or Metroid even if they turn out to be amazing. I've lost interest, as I'm sure many before me have.
@GR: Yeah. I wonder where the money went though.
Dude, the last Mario game I played before 3ds land was Galaxy 2. I may not think Galaxy 2 is better than 1, but it's like, totally the next best thing to me. And 3ds Land is boring the SHIT out of me. Unpolished, and not nearly as tight all around. I'm on world 6 and the other day I said out loud,"why bother?" and turned my system off.
For me there are three Nintendo series worth caring about: Animal Crossing, Rhythm Heaven, and Wario Ware.
Are they ever going to top Mario Kart SNES ? No
Are they ever going to top Super Metroid? No
Are they ever going to top Pilotwings ? No
Are they ever going to top Yoshis Island ? No
Are they ever going to top SMW ? No
Are they ever going to top Mario Tennis 64? No
Are they ever going to top Zelda:OOT? No
etc etc
:rofl Can't tell if you're being serious.
max sales time:
nsmbu: 243k
zombi u (not half of red steel's first month): 50k
scribblenauts (less than zombi u): 50k
cod9 (less than scribblenauts): 50k
just dance (less than cod9): 50k
nland (less than just dance): 50k
five games between nintendo land and the 10k mark: 250k
17 games at less than 10k: 17k
total: 760k
so keep in mind that this is probably the absolute best case scenario. real numbers are much lower. (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=45175942#post45175942)
In a note to investors, Longbow Research's James Hardiman shed some additional light on the numbers, calling specific attention to the performance of Wii U software sales. While the original Wii saw two games sold for every console in its opening month on shelves in 2006, the Wii U posted a comparatively paltry 1.2 games sold per system. Hardiman chalked that up to either the inclusion of NintendoLand in Wii U Deluxe bundles providing a compelling enough experience that players didn't feel the need for another game, or the higher prices for the Wii U ($299 for the Basic system, $349 for the Deluxe) left consumers without the spare funds for software.
Max Wii U sales timeQuotemax sales time:
nsmbu: 243k
zombi u (not half of red steel's first month): 50k
scribblenauts (less than zombi u): 50k
cod9 (less than scribblenauts): 50k
just dance (less than cod9): 50k
nland (less than just dance): 50k
five games between nintendo land and the 10k mark: 250k
17 games at less than 10k: 17k
total: 760k
so keep in mind that this is probably the absolute best case scenario. real numbers are much lower. (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=45175942#post45175942)
17 games at less than 10K and Zombi U which had like 10x the effort Red Steel had put into it and it only managed half the number even with Wii U selling a lot more than Wii did in its first month.
Expect Miyamoto-san and the brightest from Nintendo to release a stream of small Game-pad friendly e-store titles, of a speed and quality the likes of which Nintendo has never done before. Essentially the e-store will be the Apple Store, but with more quality. Tons of indie games, tons of First party nintendo smaller games, and if we're lucky, some HD re-releases of GC and Wii classics.
I just read that awesome post. Awesome.
There's probably a bit of the "I'm going to be a Ebay millionaire" thing going on, given how crazy the Wii launch was once it sold out.
:rofl Can't tell if you're being serious.
says the kid who doesnt even fully appreciate nintendos golden-era games
:rofl Can't tell if you're being serious.
says the kid who doesnt even fully appreciate nintendos golden-era games
Define fully appreciate. I love SMB1, Lost Levels, 3, World, LttP, Kirby, Kid Icarus... about the only franchise I've never really cared for is Metroid.
But to say they haven't topped themselves since then in any area is fanboy stupidity that wouldn't be out of place for a Ninthing on GAF if it was, say, Sony's early games. You people are becoming the very same kind of brainless, hateful drones you mock and claim to despise.
Animal Crossing
dcharlie is a sega refuge, no need to concern yourself andrex
. Around 50 people in line at Yodobashi in Akiba
QuoteAnimal Crossing
confession time - i bought the new one on 3DS :O
I played about 2 hours maybe? Why did i buy it ? i have absolutely no idea at all. Fortunately i was able to sell it back at nigh on the same price i bought it due to the insanely low stocks.
What the FUCK was i thinking?!? It's still the same old fucking sludge fest. I cannot for the life of me fathom the appeal. It actually is "Shit i should be doing in real life - the game".
Hell, friends started tweeting confusing shit like
"Tidied up my room and bought some new furniture. Place looks swank. <pic>" - fucking animal crossing shot
"out at the club at 2am - incredible <pic>" - a picture in the club, in animal crossing, at 2am
etc etc
As for #GOTY hash tagging this utter "Sylvanian Family lets-play-dress-up-Barbie-home wallpaper and tidy-em-up" shit fest? Jesus will punish you.
:rofl Can't tell if you're being serious.
says the kid who doesnt even fully appreciate nintendos golden-era games
It's the -san that kills it for me.Expect Miyamoto-san and the brightest from Nintendo to release a stream of small Game-pad friendly e-store titles, of a speed and quality the likes of which Nintendo has never done before. Essentially the e-store will be the Apple Store, but with more quality. Tons of indie games, tons of First party nintendo smaller games, and if we're lucky, some HD re-releases of GC and Wii classics.
I just read that awesome post. Awesome.
really? :lol
It's the -san that kills it for me.Expect Miyamoto-san and the brightest from Nintendo to release a stream of small Game-pad friendly e-store titles, of a speed and quality the likes of which Nintendo has never done before. Essentially the e-store will be the Apple Store, but with more quality. Tons of indie games, tons of First party nintendo smaller games, and if we're lucky, some HD re-releases of GC and Wii classics.
I just read that awesome post. Awesome.
really? :lol
Gaming is ALL Nintendo does. They don't over-extend. They watch, wait, and execute. This is so obvious with the WiiU. I have no clue what RETRO is working on, but I promise that the their hinted engine will really WOW people with regards to what the system can do. Iwata has said as much. The slow trickle of first gen mega-hits will be impressive, I think, but will require an incredible patience from the fans. This is why that ease of porting from 3rd parties is so important. However, the real gem comes from the indie devs and Miyamoto's secret first party master class at Nintendo.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=45145572&postcount=204
:rofl Can't tell if you're being serious.
says the kid who doesnt even fully appreciate nintendos golden-era games
You have to remember, he's a dumb fucker
I probably won't buy it, Pikmin in "Q3" (likely April I'd say.) Not really a long post-launch drough
"Are they ever going to top X?" is a pretty dumb way to dismiss something.
I don't have time at all for gaming anymore,
christ nintendo needs to shitcan iwata and miyamoto
Reggie probably has nothing to do with what a clusterfuck this is.
I heard there was a second big update. Any idea what it does?
They should get out of the hardware business.
They should get out of the hardware business.
You do realize that there is literally no benefit to Nintendo still being in the hardware business, right?
o you think MS or Sony are going to risk trying it out? Probably not.
* "new" gimmicks nintendo beta'd for them that they'll do properly
* "new" gimmicks nintendo beta'd for them that they'll do properly
I just realized, If I were an Euro weeeoooo owner and still had the same job I have now, I would only have two hours to download mature content for my games.
:bow Nintendo :bow2
* "new" gimmicks nintendo beta'd for them that they'll do properly
I totally want MS/Sony to make a copycat and add more features and a better battery. And at least with MS/Sony we don't need to buy a classic controller.
Hector Martin@marcan42
Pro tip: 40 character hex strings are usually SHA1 hashes, not encryption keys.
"It was a good start," Nintendo spokesman Yasuhiro Minagawa said of Saturday's debut in Japan, adding that the product has sold out in the United States.
"We'd like to keep this momentum next year," he said.
Minagawa said Nintendo expects the Wii U to draw brisk demand throughout Japan, based on the number of advance orders.
The Kyoto-based company plans to sell 5.5 million consoles and 24 million games by the end of next March.
"The sales of the Wii U seem favorable so far," said Etsuko Tamura, an analyst at Mizuho Investors Securities Co., adding that the company may face a supply shortage.
Picked up ZombiU- ended up getting Sonic All Stars Transformed for 360 to play it safe.
And so another Wii U launch title arrives that doesn't quite hold its own against the existing PS3 and 360 versions. After the fairly impressive work done on the Wii U port of Assassin's Creed 3, we can't help but feel a little disappointed with Vigil Games' efforts here. The removal of light shafts and environmental detail doesn't overly harm the game considering that the core artwork is a close match in other areas, but the sharp drops in performance are hard to ignore when the low frame-rate has a noticeable impact on the feel of the controls, making them heavier and less responsive.
In terms of the Wii U-specific features, the added touch-screen controls do prove useful, making navigation of the cumbersome menus a breeze compared to using the standard controller on the other platforms, although we could do without having certain moves being mapped to the GamePad's motion sensing functions. In addition, with the poorer performance and reduced visual quality, it also means that there's little reason to pick up the Wii U version at full price when the PS3 and 360 versions can be purchased new for as little as £20 online (though obviously the DLC packs are not included).
In the final analysis, the PS3 version remains the most impressive version of the game with higher-quality textures in places and superior performance, followed by the 360 release, while the Wii U sits in last place. While short on platform-specific enhancements, the PC version is the one to play if you have the necessary horsepower to sustain higher resolutions and frame-rates. Regardless of its issues, Darksiders 2 is still worth picking up on Wii U if you don't have access to any of the other platforms: the game itself is large and rewarding to play, and the narrative nicely complements the original Darksiders with a concurrently running story that expands on the events of the first game. As a final recommendation though, we'd perhaps hold fire on a Wii U purchase until it comes down in price.
Picked up ZombiU- ended up getting Sonic All Stars Transformed for 360 to play it safe.
Picked up ZombiU- ended up getting Sonic All Stars Transformed for 360 to play it safe.
Sonic kart got fixed on the wii u, although the online is apparently barren.
Picked up ZombiU- ended up getting Sonic All Stars Transformed for 360 to play it safe.
Sonic kart got fixed on the wii u, although the online is apparently barren.
Damn, the 50 people who bought it on Wii U won't be able to play now. :'(
Picked up ZombiU- ended up getting Sonic All Stars Transformed for 360 to play it safe.
Sonic kart got fixed on the wii u, although the online is apparently barren.
Damn, the 50 people who bought it on Wii U won't be able to play now. :'(
They can play all they want, its just got a low population atm. Can you read?
Picked up ZombiU- ended up getting Sonic All Stars Transformed for 360 to play it safe.
Sonic kart got fixed on the wii u, although the online is apparently barren.
I'm no gaming expert - or maybe I am, hence why I only play PC titles :smug - but here's my question for you folks. The Wii had a software shortage for a couple years to put it lightly. The 3DS launched with next to nothing before Nintendo threw out some various halfass, spiced up stuff like Mario Kart and NSMB.
So...what the fuck have Nintendo's developers been doing for the last 3 years? I honestly assumed they had a bunch of shit planned early for the WiiU, given the software drought the Wii had. Yet it launched with...a spiced up Wii port of NSMB and Nintendo Land, which, if games were vinyl singles, would have been the b-side of WiiPlay 6 years ago.
Is the plan just to release a couple Mario titles, a couple Zelda titles, one Metroid, one Mario Kart, one Animal Crossing...and then use the profits to build a slightly weaker version of the competition's console for the next generation?
If that plan leads to more stuff like Bayonetta then I'm good. I would like to see Nintendo throw it's money around to other developers to fill out it's publishing work. I mean if that's what you're talking about.
NSD: Last game: Can't Decide What to Eat?
So why does it look like they have a drought ahead when they should have lots? Part of it is localization shit (NoA doesn't release a lot of the titles NoJ does)
part of it is that Nintendo announces things like a month before they release unless it's the big cannons. I don't doubt there's going to be a post-launch drought on the WiiU, but it's hardly unique in that respect. Not many consoles hit the ground running and keep running, especially in this day and age where system launches are worldwide. Nintendo's probably going to have a lot to talk about soon enough. I wouldn't hold my breath for any third party action, though. Money is tight enough in this industry without throwing it away at what is obviously a waste of time and money.
I have absolutely no interest in the PS4 or X720 after getting the Wii U. Great job to Nintendo for improving upon the Wii in every way people wanted.
We know the PS4 will have a painful controller and the 720 will be a watered down PC with a yearly online fee.
NO THANKS.
QuoteI have absolutely no interest in the PS4 or X720 after getting the Wii U. Great job to Nintendo for improving upon the Wii in every way people wanted.QuoteWe know the PS4 will have a painful controller and the 720 will be a watered down PC with a yearly online fee.
NO THANKS.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
(http://i.imgur.com/Uy1Xj.png)
Just wait until they unlock the rest of the watts before you all condemn Nintendo and their engineers.
So Digital Foundry did one of their little graphics comparison articles, this time on Trine 2, and their verdict is that the Wii-U version looks the best of the bunch (well, minus PC). Am I taking crazy pills here or something, cause the Wii-U screens look (relatively) horrible imo:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-trine-2-face-off
There seems to be less geometry, lower res textures and shittier lighting. ???
According to GAF, less than 30 seconds for menu to load is really fast, quit being so entitled.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=45159089&postcount=850
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsErwrdAua4
Pissed off Japanese woman pointing out the retardedness of load times. Japan is unamused
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsErwrdAua4
Pissed off Japanese woman pointing out the retardedness of load times. Japan is unamused
hopefully he broke the dc trend and didn't buy *every* game.
i bet he'll be balls-deep in monster hunter later tonight. or sleeping. probably sleeping.
I am now a shamed WiiU owner.
May i die up a rats cunt.
I am now a shamed WiiU owner.
May i die up a rats cunt.
I am now a shamed WiiU owner.
May i die up a rats cunt.
I am now a shamed WiiU owner.
May i die up a rats cunt.
I am now a shamed WiiU owner.
May i die up a rats cunt.
So apperently Nintendoland doesn't even feauture online games.
2012 ya'll.
Most of Early 2013’s Biggest Games Seem to Be Skipping Wii U
Over the last couple of days, we've been checking in on the Wii U status of several major multiplatform games, all of which are slated for the first half of 2013. Nintendo has promised that the Wii U will have a broader array of games than the Wii did and won't neglect the hardcore gamer crowd. But very few of the top multiplatform games for Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 are slated for Wii U.
Aliens: Colonial Marines
Release Date: February 12 (PC, PS3, Xbox 360)
Coming to Wii U? "Yes, ACM is coming to Wii U," a rep from Sega confirmed. We have not announced a specific date yet, just that it launches before the end of Nintendo's launch window (aka March 31, 2013)."
Army of Two: The Devil's Cartel
Release Date: March 26, 2013 (PS3, Xbox 360)
Coming to Wii U? "No plans," according to a rep for EA.
BioShock Infinite
Release Date: March 26, 2013 (PC, PS3, Xbox 360)
Coming to Wii U? The game's creative director just told Destructoid that "nothing is brewing right now," so highly unlikely.
Castlevania Lords of Shadow 2
Release Date: 2013 (Not sure if early or late, to be honest) (PC, PS3, Xbox 360)
Coming to Wii U? "We can't confirm any info on the Wii U at this time," says a rep for Konami. (Whatever that means.)
Crysis 3
Release Date: February 13, 2013 (PC, PS3, Xbox 360)
Coming to Wii U? "No plans," according to a rep for EA.
Dead Island Riptide
Release Date: April 23, 2013 (PC, PS3, Xbox 360)
Coming to Wii U? "No plans," according to a rep for Deep Silver.
Dead Space 3
Release Date: February 5, 2013 (PC, PS3, Xbox 360)
Coming to Wii U? "No plans," according to a rep for EA.
DmC
Release Date: January 15, 2013 (PC, PS3, Xbox 360)
Coming to Wii U? All we could get was a rep for Capcom reiterating that the game is "confirmed" for the above platforms.
Fuse
Release Date: March 2013 (PS3, Xbox 360)
Coming to Wii U? "No plans," according to a rep for EA.
Grand Theft Auto V
Release Date: Spring 2013 (PS3, Xbox 360)
Coming to Wii U? Nothing announced. Seems unlikely, but here's a glimmer of hope, if you're the unusually optimistic sort.
Injustice: Gods Among Us
Release Date: April 2013 (Xbox 360, PS3)
Coming to Wii U? Yes!
Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance
Release Date: February 19, 2013 (PS3, Xbox 360)
Coming to Wii U? We asked the game's producer, Yuji Korekado, at an event in Los Angeles last week. Here's the transcript:
Kotaku: Do you have plans to bring Revengeance to Wii U?
Korekado: No.
Kotaku: Why not?
Korekado: We really developed the game based on these two consoles [PS3, 360] and the Wii U, we think, is unique in a way that the controller is innovative and the entire console's pretty much not hand-in-hand with the consoles that we're making it for now. So if we were going to make it for the Wii U we'd have to start from zero again and really design something for that console, so we could say 100% that it was a good game for this console.
Kotaku: Could Wii U run the Revengeance engine?
Korekado: I haven't really tried it, so I'm not quite sure.
Metro Last Light
Release Date: March 2013 (PC, PS3, Xbox 360)
Coming to Wii U? Not bloody likely.
Remember Me
Release Date: May 2013 (PC, PS3, Xbox 360)
Coming to Wii U? In August, Capcom's U.S. senior VP Christian Svensson said the idea of bringing it to the Wii U was "explored" but didn't synch up well with the developers' schedules.
South Park: The Stick of Truth
Release Date: Early 2013 (PC, PS3, Xbox 360)
Coming to Wii U? "THQ hasn't announced plans for a Wii U version of the game and is focusing attention on the current versions," a THQ rep told us.
Splinter Cell: Blacklist
Release Date: Spring 2013 (PC, PS3, Xbox 360)
Coming to Wii U? "The decision to bring a game to the Wii U will be made on a case-by-case basis," a Ubisoft rep told us. "We don't have any details to share at the moment."
Tomb Raider
Release Date: March 5, 2013 (PC, PS3, Xbox 360)
Coming to Wii U? A Square Enix rep says: "the announced platforms for Tomb Raider = X360, PS3, PC. No Wii U."
I am now a shamed WiiU owner.
May i die up a rats cunt.
Lack of online in Mario cuts much deeper.
The game would have way more hype if it was online and NSMB2 didn't come out.
I am now a shamed WiiU owner.
May i die up a rats cunt.
But don't you recall Andrex that Nintendo apologists all agreed that some undefined quality of the New Super Mario games makes it impossible for them to work online. It can't be done.
The excuse back then, which I never really bought, was that the Wii didn't have enough CPU to handle all four characters plus internet connectivity/lag-workarounds. Considering the Wii U's poor CPU, this still might be the case but it's much harder to swallow considering the system is being pushed as "next gen." AFAIK there's no official reason why NSMBU doesn't have online.
The excuse back then, which I never really bought, was that the Wii didn't have enough CPU to handle all four characters plus internet connectivity/lag-workarounds. Considering the Wii U's poor CPU, this still might be the case but it's much harder to swallow considering the system is being pushed as "next gen." AFAIK there's no official reason why NSMBU doesn't have online.
I was more referring to the popular argument some were making that seemed to insist that lag compensation techniques employed in other genres just won't work for something as fast paced as a Mario platformer.
That was a popular argument? Those people should have been punched in the face.
As well, unlike say, a four player 2D Mario game, the games in Nintendoland COULD be engineered to work with online as well as local play. But I think regardless of the team's focus and intent, that would be a very large, complex project for something that has so many rather different multiplayer experiences in one package.
I'm reminded of a Zero Punctuation quote.
"Maybe if anyone defends this on a forum, they automatically get added to the government depopulation list because their minds are clearly deviant and must be purged."
For instance, here's a quote from Kaijima made today:QuoteAs well, unlike say, a four player 2D Mario game, the games in Nintendoland COULD be engineered to work with online as well as local play. But I think regardless of the team's focus and intent, that would be a very large, complex project for something that has so many rather different multiplayer experiences in one package.
He seems to believe that it just wouldn't work at all.
snip
DC hasn't posted since confirming his weeeeeoooo purchase... did it kill him?
I am now a shamed WiiU owner.
May i die up a rats cunt.
DC hasn't posted since confirming his weeeeeoooo purchase... did it kill him?
Probably balls deep innintendo land.waiting hours and hours for the system to update.
Mega64
So apperently Nintendoland doesn't even feauture online games.201220062004 ya'll.
So apperently Nintendoland doesn't even feauture online games.201220062004 ya'll.
ftfy
So apperently Nintendoland doesn't even feauture online games.201220062004 ya'll.
ftfy
Hey, it's just a return to that good ol' hardcore arcade nintendo!
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=45280431&postcount=1
Hey now...Punch-Out!! Popeye! Mario Bros.! Donkey Kong Jr.!
And nothing on the Wii U is anywhere near as good as those games were. :'(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7fdPMCtg8c
So apperently Nintendoland doesn't even feauture online games.201220062004 ya'll.
ftfy
Hey, it's just a return to that good ol' hardcore arcade nintendo!
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=45280431&postcount=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwVsBCKXg9k
:rofl
So apperently Nintendoland doesn't even feauture online games.201220062004 ya'll.
ftfy
Hey, it's just a return to that good ol' hardcore arcade nintendo!
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=45280431&postcount=1
Nintendo's history is whatever it needs to be to make the current Nintendo sound good.
Nintendo's next console stomps on your face with steel-toe boots. It's been Nintendo's philosophy since the hanafuda cards. And dcharlie/prole will still buy it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwVsBCKXg9k
:rofl
Please change DCharlie's tag to "The Ted Haggard of Console Gaming"I am now a shamed WiiU owner.
May i die up a rats cunt.
My god, you're the Ted Haggard of console gaming.
DC we need to have a little talk, your mother and I are so very disappointed with you
Please change DCharlie's tag to "The Ted Haggard of Console Gaming"I am now a shamed WiiU owner.
May i die up a rats cunt.
My god, you're the Ted Haggard of console gaming.
I am now a shamed WiiU owner.
May i die up a rats cunt.
Nintendo has explained why it decided not to include online multiplayer in Wii U launch title Nintendo Land.
Developers wanted to encourage players to interact in the real world, with the virtual theme park's attractions specifically designed for players sitting next to each other.
"Nintendo Land's multiplayer attractions work because of the communication shared between the people playing them," Nintendo Land producer Katsuya Eguchi told Famitsu (via Polygon). "They were set up from the start to be something people in the same room could enjoy."
So far - it's better than i gave it credit for i guess. Miiverse is legitimately quite nice, but no BLOW ME AWAY experiences as of yet.
Sorry gents - i had the Son back after my illness , so i was in bed asleep by 8pm
Wii U - updates were all done and dusted in 20 minutes, not sure what the fuss was about!
Two hard locks so far, both in Youtube (lol)
Only played NintendoLand with son - he loves it , i thought it was okay.
So far - it's better than i gave it credit for i guess. Miiverse is legitimately quite nice, but no BLOW ME AWAY experiences as of yet.
I guess i'll try Monster Hunter tonight.
This will get fixed.
Nintendo seem to be deliberately adopting an Ikea model of releasing things broken and fixing them as it goes along. I say deliberately because Nintendo are control freaks and never seem to do things by mistake. They might make odd choices but there is always a strategy.
In this case they have released their last two consoles (wiiU and 3ds) pretty much broken at launch, this goes against almost everything that we've learnt about Nintendo before -- that they usually provide extremely hardware and software.
So, one of two things are happening. There is a serious problem at Nintendo or they are experimenting -- Other people release broken products, so if Apple get away with it why can't we?
From the way Nintendo publicised the machine, I think they want the WiiU to be a 'grower'. They want word of mouth. The machine is geared towards social behaviour after all.
There is some psychological evidence that says that when you build something, when you are stressed about something, when you are forced to wait, you bond with it more when it eventually works. This is the case with almost every work of art -- some people are turned off by this, but it's exactly how something like Jazz music works, the mental effort (and sometimes pain) that is required, pays off in the long run. Demon Souls works in exactly the same way.
Now, I think this is a pretty strange strategy but I do think it could be justified. And I'm not saying that this IS what they're doing but it could certainly be part of it. They could also have been forced into this decision by time constraints, but I highly doubt they would release a console in this state without knowing that it can be fixed. They would never take a gamble like this without a solid strategy, that's just not what Nintendo do.
Personally, despite the slowness, I think it's a great console OS, mainly because the path from grabbing the gamepad and getting straight into a game has been streamlined. On top of the portability, features like being able to pause the game, watch a video, then go back into the game are useful. As long as the ports from other machines maintain this quality I will be getting them on the WiiU for this reason.
And yes I know that many people here scream 'those ports are shit'. But they're not, They're just not. They're slightly different, much like PS3 versions.
That the console isn't more powerful is a disappointment, but it doesn't matter. The advantages that the gamepad has over the others, not just the screen, but the comfort and accuracy of the sticks (BLOPS) just makes it better for gaming in my opinion, not by miles, but easily enough to sway me.
This is a launch and I doubt we will see many of these problems in a few months, once everyone has got to grips with the machine. And that includes Nintendo.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=45346905&postcount=81QuoteThis will get fixed.
Nintendo seem to be deliberately adopting an Ikea model of releasing things broken and fixing them as it goes along. I say deliberately because Nintendo are control freaks and never seem to do things by mistake. They might make odd choices but there is always a strategy.
In this case they have released their last two consoles (wiiU and 3ds) pretty much broken at launch, this goes against almost everything that we've learnt about Nintendo before -- that they usually provide extremely hardware and software.
So, one of two things are happening. There is a serious problem at Nintendo or they are experimenting -- Other people release broken products, so if Apple get away with it why can't we?
From the way Nintendo publicised the machine, I think they want the WiiU to be a 'grower'. They want word of mouth. The machine is geared towards social behaviour after all.
There is some psychological evidence that says that when you build something, when you are stressed about something, when you are forced to wait, you bond with it more when it eventually works. This is the case with almost every work of art -- some people are turned off by this, but it's exactly how something like Jazz music works, the mental effort (and sometimes pain) that is required, pays off in the long run. Demon Souls works in exactly the same way.
Now, I think this is a pretty strange strategy but I do think it could be justified. And I'm not saying that this IS what they're doing but it could certainly be part of it. They could also have been forced into this decision by time constraints, but I highly doubt they would release a console in this state without knowing that it can be fixed. They would never take a gamble like this without a solid strategy, that's just not what Nintendo do.
Personally, despite the slowness, I think it's a great console OS, mainly because the path from grabbing the gamepad and getting straight into a game has been streamlined. On top of the portability, features like being able to pause the game, watch a video, then go back into the game are useful. As long as the ports from other machines maintain this quality I will be getting them on the WiiU for this reason.
And yes I know that many people here scream 'those ports are shit'. But they're not, They're just not. They're slightly different, much like PS3 versions.
That the console isn't more powerful is a disappointment, but it doesn't matter. The advantages that the gamepad has over the others, not just the screen, but the comfort and accuracy of the sticks (BLOPS) just makes it better for gaming in my opinion, not by miles, but easily enough to sway me.
This is a launch and I doubt we will see many of these problems in a few months, once everyone has got to grips with the machine. And that includes Nintendo.
Someone explain what's so great about Miiverse, all I see is people talking about it but not why it's any good
Someone explain what's so great about Miiverse, all I see is people talking about it but not why it's any good
Someone explain what's so great about Miiverse, all I see is people talking about it but not why it's any good
Someone explain what's so great about Miiverse, all I see is people talking about it but not why it's any good
This is the case with almost every work of art
So far - it's better than i gave it credit for i guess. Miiverse is legitimately quite nice, but no BLOW ME AWAY experiences as of yet.
Wait for E3.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7fdPMCtg8c
guys
what are you doing
guys
stahp
Otherwise DC will leave The Bore like Andrex and magus.
Man, reading the last few pages of the Wii U launch thread over at GAF, and I see that there's a new Wii U superfan amongst the ranks, and his name is DCharlie.
AKA : Launch period is a launch period.
I've had the utter reverse for the second time with a Nintendo machine (3ds) - went in expecting MEH, came away more than happy with what i got.
That said - i'm not in this for the ports from X360/PS3 - i have those machines so they aren't of importance and unless a port -outclasses- the X360/PS3 significantly i'll likely stay on those machines for my 3rd party titles.
But hey - things are a bit sluggish and could be better, some of the UI choices are a bit lacking, but what is there that works well is -very- good. Miiverse is -oustanding- in its simplicity and usability, Nintendoland is way more fun than it has any right to be, everything is pick-up-and-play able.
However, WiiU is in for a rough 4-5 months or so waiting for titles to come (especially here in Japan where we already have MH) and i BET we get to "Vita/3DS" levels of DOOOOM during those times. It's a launch - people just need to relax.
ew, disgusting
i have a wii u and play with my brat and she can't get me to touch nintendoland again
I love when gamers justify a console purchase by saying they can watch movies on it.
I bought a Roku a few months ago. Cost me about $50 and I can watch Hulu, Netflix, Amazon Instant Video, and Crunchyroll. So yeah, that justification is pretty flimsy.
I bought a Roku a few months ago. Cost me about $50 and I can watch Hulu, Netflix, Amazon Instant Video, and Crunchyroll. So yeah, that justification is pretty flimsy.
Can I play Nintendo Land on a Roku box?
No. Advantage Roku.I bought a Roku a few months ago. Cost me about $50 and I can watch Hulu, Netflix, Amazon Instant Video, and Crunchyroll. So yeah, that justification is pretty flimsy.
Can I play Nintendo Land on a Roku box?
Look at him! He's now in there doing damage control for Nintendo!QuoteAKA : Launch period is a launch period.
I've had the utter reverse for the second time with a Nintendo machine (3ds) - went in expecting MEH, came away more than happy with what i got.
That said - i'm not in this for the ports from X360/PS3 - i have those machines so they aren't of importance and unless a port -outclasses- the X360/PS3 significantly i'll likely stay on those machines for my 3rd party titles.
But hey - things are a bit sluggish and could be better, some of the UI choices are a bit lacking, but what is there that works well is -very- good. Miiverse is -oustanding- in its simplicity and usability, Nintendoland is way more fun than it has any right to be, everything is pick-up-and-play able.
However, WiiU is in for a rough 4-5 months or so waiting for titles to come (especially here in Japan where we already have MH) and i BET we get to "Vita/3DS" levels of DOOOOM during those times. It's a launch - people just need to relax.
I love when gamers justify a console purchase by saying they can watch movies on it.
No. Advantage Roku.I bought a Roku a few months ago. Cost me about $50 and I can watch Hulu, Netflix, Amazon Instant Video, and Crunchyroll. So yeah, that justification is pretty flimsy.
Can I play Nintendo Land on a Roku box?
I love when gamers justify a console purchase by saying they can watch movies on it.
AKA "the PS3 defense."
You have some irrational hatred of Sony don't you?
I love when gamers justify a console purchase by saying they can watch movies on it.
AKA "the PS3 defense."
You have some irrational hatred of Sony don't you?
I really wish Atari didn't have a patent on minigames during load screens.
I really wish Atari didn't have a patent on minigames during load screens.
Huh? Namco has done that before with Ridge Racer games.
good god, parents are delusional. i swear, your kid could bring home a dog turd and ask to keep it as a pet and when he/she looks at you with that excited look you go "oh, whatever, awwww."
outside of the fact that the controller is surprisingly ergonomic, the wii u is a bad machine and dcharlie should feel bad.
I really wish Atari didn't have a patent on minigames during load screens.
Huh? Namco has done that before with Ridge Racer games.
Can the WiiU play movie DVD's?
Can the WiiU play movie DVD's?
We just played Rayman, it was really nice looking and boring
weeaboos would never talk up a frenchy effort in a genre Japan is known for :wag
Nay sir tis the westaboos that are to blame for rayman
Rayman Origins > New Super Mario Bros. U
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Rayman Origins > New Super Mario Bros. U
Rayman Origins > New Super Mario Bros. U
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Rayman Origins > New Super Mario Bros. U
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I've only played the first 4 worlds of Origins and only beat NSMBW on an emu but so fargameplay wise Mario is loads better gameplay wise then Origins. Rayman is basically a JumpnRun on rails, there is no interaction between the elements in the levels whatsoever, nothing has feel or weight to it and the levels regurgitate the same simple ideas over and over again. It's presentations is great and I will probably return to it because of that, but overall it's the Donkey Kong Country (1) of this generation (although at least Donkey Kong had a great feel for weight to it).
I've only played the first 4 worlds of Origins and only beat NSMBW on an emu but so fargameplay wise Mario is loads better gameplay wise then Origins. Rayman is basically a JumpnRun on rails, there is no interaction between the elements in the levels whatsoever, nothing has feel or weight to it and the levels regurgitate the same simple ideas over and over again. It's presentations is great and I will probably return to it because of that, but overall it's the Donkey Kong Country (1) of this generation (although at least Donkey Kong had a great feel for weight to it).
:bow
What did I call the French version of whimsy? "Charm?"
ouimsy
Origins? I thought we were talking about the Legends demo.
I will concede that Legends will probably be worse than Origins considering all the murphy jank and licensed music levels.
The WiiU Rayman demo wasn't that bad, I think that's the only Rayman I have ever played though. That's different from Origins right?
Can't believe ntards are calling this Rayman a systemseller.
Origins sold like 12 copies
Can't believe ntards are calling this Rayman a systemseller.
Origins sold like 12 copies
You can play as Rayman in multiplayer, but single player? LOL NOPE, get ready for some red hot, touchscreen Murphy action!
it's a shame this thread got closed after drinky dropped the megaton:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=45453985&postcount=202
drinky dropped the megaton
A 2006 meme fits perfectly on 2006 hardware.
A 2006 meme fits perfectly on 2006 hardware.
A 2006 meme fits perfectly on 2006 hardware.
A 2006 meme fits perfectly on 2006 hardware.
A 2006 meme fits perfectly on 2006 hardware.
A 2006 meme fits perfectly on 2006 hardware.
A 2006 meme fits perfectly on 2006 hardware.
A 2006 meme fits perfectly on 2006 hardware.
I heard you have to jump from platform to platform with bottomless pits in between.
Knocking foreground objects like flowers for extra collectables = DKCROr...Yoshi's Island?
Three collectable things per level, rating you how you did on it = NSMB DS
Bubbling = NSMB Wii even though Ancel denies (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=450829) it
A 2006 meme fits perfectly on 2006 hardware.
Knocking foreground objects like flowers for extra collectables = DKCROr...Yoshi's Island?
Three collectable things per level, rating you how you did on it = NSMB DS
Bubbling = NSMB Wii even though Ancel denies (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=450829) it
Not to mention Super Mario World having Yoshi Coins for you to collect. Have you even played a game older than 5 years old, Andrex?
The original Rayman 2D platformers could have riffed on Yoshi's Island for tallying things at the end of levels too but they didn'tProbably because they came out at almost exactly the same time. Within weeks of each other.
Not to mention Super Mario World having Yoshi Coins for you to collect. Have you even played a game older than 5 years old, Andrex?
:lol Yoshi coins are pretty different. I mean, most obviously they're not tallied at the end of the levels, they're not "persistent" across level replaying, and the game doesn't tell you how many of them you've gotten in a level from the world map. They're basically useful for getting an extra 1up, not for measuring any kind of skill or level completion. For starters.
I see Andrex activated his Ninthing passive aggressive "you guys just don't get it" crap when backed into a corner. Dude just admit it, you didn't get into 2D platformers until Nintendo started focusing on them again with the Wii.
O RLY?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuO3DnLGEpEspoiler (click to show/hide)GBA edition only, still collecting stuff in platforming games is a million years old.[close]
andy, you're being a dope. don't make *me* prove it, it'll be a lot more thorough and a lot less pleasant than these fellows.
obviously rayman isn't entirely free of the influence of newer games like dkcr and more importantly nsmb (the business guys wouldn't be doing their jobs if they didn't push major successes in the genre in ancel's nose on a near-hourly basis), but some of the things you're pointing at are genre conventions (probably originally set by nintendo games, but far older ones). i think you don't give enough credit to ancel, which is rare because usually people are giving the guy far too much credit. i don't think he's cribbing outrageously and it's odd to poke at him every chance you get when it doesn't seem to bug you that everyone else is doing it, including nintendo's own junior designers.
In any case focusing on that bulletpoint is pretty weak.Well, it wasn't just that single bulletpoint. It was all three of the examples you gave, which you attributed to three separate recent games, are also basically all in Yoshi's Island. 40 year old Ancel doesn't need to look at Wii games to get his influence, 23 year old Ancel could have already been influenced back when he played Yoshi's Island. The new games could have just convinced him or confirmed it's still a viable mechanic.
In any case focusing on that bulletpoint is pretty weak.Well, it wasn't just that single bulletpoint. It was all three of the examples you gave, which you attributed to three separate recent games, are also basically all in Yoshi's Island. 40 year old Ancel doesn't need to look at Wii games to get his influence, 23 year old Ancel could have already been influenced back when he played Yoshi's Island. The new games could have just convinced him or confirmed it's still a viable mechanic.
I think Rayman's "end of level grading" is far more clearly linked to Yoshi's Island (which I *think* was the first well-known game to use it) than to anything newer. Rayman 1 didn't use it, but Rayman 1 came out about three weeks after YI, and, rather tellingly, Rayman 2 *did* use it, and it's been in every Rayman platformer ever since.
Honestly I think the only real suspicious thing in Origins/Legends is the bubbling. There's no way that happened free of NSMB Wii's influence, I don't care what Ancel says.
What corner?
Ok cool, then you would know that you're being an idiot when listing side scrolling tropes as something uniquely Nintendo in 2012.
I wonder what you call what happens at the end of the level. You know when it collects points as your score taking how many coins you collected plus how much time it took to complete the level.
You didn't say influence, you implied it was stolen and ripped off. And no, new music, updated visuals and new areas and aesthetics is something that the New Mario series doesn't do but Rayman does. While the New Mario gameplay is solid, it never gets updated or "evolves", which is the main problem some of us have with the series.
I never put Ancel on a pedestal. The only 2D game of his that I played was Rayman Origins and yes I loved it. I just wanted to call you out on your shit when the three examples you gave were weak and you used recent examples that are hardly the first, and unsurprisingly they were Nintendo games.
I never really care about who invented what and where tropes and cliches came from as long as the execution is good. And from that stand point I'll take Origins over the New Mario series any day.
TOO MUCH RAYMAN TALK
You know you're having a discussion with gamers when there are, like, two excellent games in a relatively under-served genre, and instead of enjoying both, they are pitted against each other in a FIGHT TO THE DEATH
You know you're having a discussion with gamers when there are, like, two excellent games in a relatively under-served genre, and instead of enjoying both, they are pitted against each other in a FIGHT TO THE DEATH
EDIT: I've just realized that if Konami somehow magically made a sequel to it, it would be a smash bros clone :-\
They did make some shitty cellphone Wai Wai game a few years back :(EDIT: I've just realized that if Konami somehow magically made a sequel to it, it would be a smash bros clone :-\
So you mean a Kirby clone?
I'm not a big fan of the Wai Wai games. I think they're both worse than every game the characters are pulled from. Nice fan service, though.The gradius and twin bee levels are very well done imo, the rest I agree but it's nice to have so many of my favs in one package.
guess what I'm saying here is that in this particular case, I don't think the nintards are being deliberate hypocrites so much as they're being inarticulate morons.
23 (22) PS3 Book Of Spells (Sony Computer Ent.)
34 (__) PS3 Littlebigplanet Karting (Sony Computer Ent.)
35 (27) WiiU Nintendo Land (Nintendo)
Selling better than NintendoLand and NsmbU
Can we finally burry this NSMB copy+paste franchise?
Selling better than NintendoLand and NsmbU
Can we finally burry this NSMB copy+paste franchise?
As long as they keep making good ones, no.
Selling better than NintendoLand and NsmbU
Can we finally burry this NSMB copy+paste franchise?
As long as they keep making good ones, no.
Copy&paste graphics and music since 2006.
Nintendo has become so lazy. They deserve this bombing.
Selling better than NintendoLand and NsmbU
Can we finally burry this NSMB copy+paste franchise?
As long as they keep making good ones, no.
Copy&paste graphics and music since 2006.
Nintendo has become so lazy. They deserve this bombing.
Game's still great.
I'm sure it will accumulate some ungodly total number of sales in the next few years.
Your loss.
I prefer the recent Giana Sisters over Rayman and (what little I have played) of NSMBWii
Apart from Sonic the Hedgehog games, pretty much yeah I've always liked stuff that wasnt particularly popular =PI prefer the recent Giana Sisters over Rayman and (what little I have played) of NSMBWii
You are such a hipster platformer fan. :lol
I'm sure it will accumulate some ungodly total number of sales in the next few years.
Yeah,assuming that WiiU will be few years on the market. :D
The more I look at this shit the more I'm convinced that console(gaming) market has fundamentally changed.Forget about PS360,those things are running on fumes,pushed by the past.
Launch a console,have some games,post launch drought,spin in an office chair for a year...that shit is not working anymore
The problem is that hardware sales go into total shit mode very very quickly(people are not waiting) and then you have two big problems:
1.Hardware turns into dust collector = huge effort into getting users excited again
2.Costs of manufacturing,distribution,etc are not going down as planned because you sell like shit
How is it that Apple is selling 20M of new iteration of the same fucking iPhone/ iPad each year then? They must have discovered some sales technique unknown to Sony/ Nintendo/ MS then. How do you explain that?
Hahahhahha are you Second on Gaf?
Weeoo is the place 2 go for rocking online play
http://kotaku.com/5968909/when-only-42-people-are-playing-madden-on-the-wii-u-its-not-a-sports-console (http://kotaku.com/5968909/when-only-42-people-are-playing-madden-on-the-wii-u-its-not-a-sports-console)
If I were the person who worked on the online component of this game I'd be having a very unhappy christmas
Weeoo is the place 2 go for rocking online play
http://kotaku.com/5968909/when-only-42-people-are-playing-madden-on-the-wii-u-its-not-a-sports-console (http://kotaku.com/5968909/when-only-42-people-are-playing-madden-on-the-wii-u-its-not-a-sports-console)
If I were the person who worked on the online component of this game I'd be having a very unhappy christmas
Hahahhahha are you Second on Gaf?
Yeah, Third is the guy that spent years spinning the PS3 like hell on GAF.
after a year elevating themselves above forsaken vita types through prospective sales numbers, i feel like nintendo fans have suddenly been thrown in the same cell and forced to share a toothbrush. the difference being that vitites are now hardened to the environment of perpetual mockery while the waif like nintendo holdout had always kept the jaws of ridicule at bay with an iron hide of marketplace success. now they are stripped naked, shivering and alone, with all their nightmares closing in on them
after a year elevating themselves above forsaken vita types through prospective sales numbers, i feel like nintendo fans have suddenly been thrown in the same cell and forced to share a toothbrush. the difference being that vitites are now hardened to the environment of perpetual mockery while the waif like nintendo holdout had always kept the jaws of ridicule at bay with an iron hide of marketplace success. now they are stripped naked, shivering and alone, with all their nightmares closing in on them.
Apple should now be public gaming enemy #1.
Apple should now be public gaming enemy #1.
Apple should now be public gaming enemy #1.
They don't produce content, who gives a shit... oh, sensitive nerdlingers threatened by Apples coming dominance and Nintendo's coming irrelevance.
Bu bu bu it Nintendo is doing a soft launch.
At least during the Wii era Ninthings could hold on to the fact the Wii was outselling PS3 and 360 (not combined ofc which they didn't understand) and surely the games would follow soon. If not now they on the successor.
Now with the WiiU there is no games and no sales. What will Nin fans talk about for the next 6 years?
what did they talk about during the gamecube era? net profit? secret zelda games? who knows.
Probably about the Gamepad and how it recallibrated their gaming habits.
:rofl
There's a thread for that!
At least during the Wii era Ninthings could hold on to the fact the Wii was outselling PS3 and 360 (not combined ofc which they didn't understand) and surely the games would follow soon. If not now they on the successor.
Now with the WiiU there is no games and no sales. What will Nin fans talk about for the next 6 years?
what did they talk about during the gamecube era? net profit? secret zelda games? who knows.
A 2006 meme fits perfectly on 2006 hardware.
Well, Nintendo only wants to sell 5.5mln units by april next year. (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-10-24-nintendo-hopes-to-sell-5-5-million-wii-u-consoles-by-april)
Definitely a soft launch!spoiler (click to show/hide)I have a feeling that they won't even reach 2mln[close]spoiler (click to show/hide)Poor Andrex[close]
At least during the Wii era Ninthings could hold on to the fact the Wii was outselling PS3 and 360 (not combined ofc which they didn't understand) and surely the games would follow soon. If not now they on the successor.
Now with the WiiU there is no games and no sales. What will Nin fans talk about for the next 6 years?
what did they talk about during the gamecube era? net profit? secret zelda games? who knows.
"Wait until E3"
At least during the Wii era Ninthings could hold on to the fact the Wii was outselling PS3 and 360 (not combined ofc which they didn't understand) and surely the games would follow soon. If not now they on the successor.
Now with the WiiU there is no games and no sales. What will Nin fans talk about for the next 6 years?
what did they talk about during the gamecube era? net profit? secret zelda games? who knows.
"Wait until E3"
I miss "Wait until Spaceworld."
At least during the Wii era Ninthings could hold on to the fact the Wii was outselling PS3 and 360 (not combined ofc which they didn't understand) and surely the games would follow soon. If not now they on the successor.
Now with the WiiU there is no games and no sales. What will Nin fans talk about for the next 6 years?
what did they talk about during the gamecube era? net profit? secret zelda games? who knows.
:drudge MEGATON :drudge
Nintendo should really focus on a new IP centered around online gameplay.
Nintendo should really focus on a new IP centered around online gameplay.
They have an existing IP in Metroid which would translate well to that type of play. Metroid online could straight up be their Halo, but they obviously don't give a fuck about such things.
Well, that was pretty bare-bones, wasn't it? I'm talking about something with expansive MP maps, co-op campaigns, etc. I know I'm in the minority, but when I had a Wii I really enjoyed the Prime games.
At least during the Wii era Ninthings could hold on to the fact the Wii was outselling PS3 and 360 (not combined ofc which they didn't understand) and surely the games would follow soon. If not now they on the successor.
Now with the WiiU there is no games and no sales. What will Nin fans talk about for the next 6 years?
what did they talk about during the gamecube era? net profit? secret zelda games? who knows.
As whack as it is, Star Fox is probably a better series to build a multiplayer game around. Assault on gamecube had pretty fun multiplayer. It was sort of like a dense version of those star wars battlefront games.
The map stuff from command (DS game) could also work as an asynchronous multiplayer mode. It could tie into miiverse somehow.
At least during the Wii era Ninthings could hold on to the fact the Wii was outselling PS3 and 360 (not combined ofc which they didn't understand) and surely the games would follow soon. If not now they on the successor.
Now with the WiiU there is no games and no sales. What will Nin fans talk about for the next 6 years?
what did they talk about during the gamecube era? net profit? secret zelda games? who knows.
"Wait until E3"
I miss "Wait until Spaceworld."
I remember going to Spaceworld for the first time and being like "Oh god this is a show for children, someone should really tell those guys on GAF"
Lol @ that theft
They've got their hands on hot consoles
"Hot" as in stolen, not "popular"
They'll probably just sit on them until Nintendo unlocks the secret CPU payload.
And just to make it clear, this is from a WiiU, not a PC
not sure why this guy just posted two pictures from the Wii:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=45559685&postcount=46
So that's the new Nintendo tactic? Just get people to pinch all your units out of warehouses and then say "well, it was in a warehouse and now it's not so it's a sale!"
that's the same dude who wrote this:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44895419&postcount=1742
which led to this classic exchange:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44895538&postcount=1749
that's the same dude who wrote this:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44895419&postcount=1742
which led to this classic exchange:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44895538&postcount=1749
ah yes, the polygon whisperer.
Can't these N fanboys do something like.. I dunno.. play and enjoy video games? Do they own stock in Nintendo or something?
Can't these N fanboys do something like.. I dunno.. play and enjoy video games? Do they own stock in Nintendo or something?
Germany Top 100:
Week 50
Week 48>49>50
09>22>31 New Super Mario Bros. U
65>NA>NA ZombiU
70>NA>NA Assassin's Creed III
74>NA>NA Nintendo Land
Useful info:
6.2 inch touch screen (854 x 480)
Regular button layout on the edges
1.3 megapixel front-facing camera with mic
Stereo speakers
NFC and Bluetooth
Stylus support
Compatible with the Nintendo 3DS as a controller
Wii U GamePad - White
http://www.very.co.uk/nintendo-wii-u-gamepad---white/1188488606.prd?browseToken=%2fq%2fwii+u+gamepadQuoteUseful info:
6.2 inch touch screen (854 x 480)
Regular button layout on the edges
1.3 megapixel front-facing camera with mic
Stereo speakers
NFC and Bluetooth
Stylus support
Compatible with the Nintendo 3DS as a controller
Wii U GamePad - White
I have no idea who or why but 140k or so more Wii U's sold in Japan.
The thing is almost anonymous - i dread to think what would have happened if Nintendo had actually bothered to advertise and push this this thing.
(300k+ 3DS's sold this week too - Japan loves the taste of shit, confirmed! ;) Animal Fucking Crossing. Fuck me.)
Iwata did not specify a date for improving Wii U system performance. The Wii DQX update is coming to Japan in late Dec. Engadget must have conflated the two.
Hmzl I watched this nintendo direct on my Wii U and didn't think Iwata said anything about a patch? He only acknowledged the complaints about load times and update times at the start and promised that they take these seriously and will work to improve them. Nothing about at a ETA of a patch.
QuoteIwata did not specify a date for improving Wii U system performance. The Wii DQX update is coming to Japan in late Dec. Engadget must have conflated the two.QuoteHmzl I watched this nintendo direct on my Wii U and didn't think Iwata said anything about a patch? He only acknowledged the complaints about load times and update times at the start and promised that they take these seriously and will work to improve them. Nothing about at a ETA of a patch.
Wii U's first (US) eShop sale:
Trine 2 is $16 until January 7th.
Chasing Aurora is $7.49 until January 3rd.
Little Inferno is $10 until January 4th.
Definitely getting Trine 2 now.
I have no idea who or why but 140k or so more Wii U's sold in Japan.
The thing is almost anonymous - i dread to think what would have happened if Nintendo had actually bothered to advertise and push this this thing.
(300k+ 3DS's sold this week too - Japan loves the taste of shit, confirmed! ;) Animal Fucking Crossing. Fuck me.)
Nintendo is lucky they had MH for the WiiU. And DQX is going to be released there soon.
Those two franchises will sell hardware. No matter what.
Europe and NA....that's going to be a tougher battle.
I am pretty curious about Little Inferno, I'll bite for $10. What's up with the no VC on the store though? Is there even gonna be a VC on WiiU? That (along with Xenoblade and Sin and Punishment 2) was the best thing about the original Wii.
It's going to take years of constant improvements to get the OS to usable levels, don't get your hopes up. Hell, it took Google how many years to get Android to a good-looking and performing state? And they actually care about that stuff.Android is a lot more complex and works on a butt ton of hardware. A better comparison would be Blackberry OS, which to my knowledge is still a piece of shit today but looks promising going into the next iteration
Yeah it requested that I re-enter my WiFi password four times now in the past week. The OS hung up on me once to try to find a connection, the type of hang up that required me pulling the plug at the socket.
Devices that run off of my WiFi without any problems: TV, laptop, desktop, printer, 3DSXL, Vita, iPhone
Devices that run off of my WiFi with problems: Wii U
All contacts with Nintendo result in a "please understand" type answer.
You know, without WiFi, I can't really get into Netflix or Amazon Video, the only thing I use the Wii U for now. Without it, it kind of just turns into a shiny useless brick underneath my TV.
Honestly, if it's for your kids, that's pretty good advice. Sadly the people that are likely to see that tweet are highly unlikely to be the type that would need to be told that. Cuz if you're following Nintendo's twitter, odds are you aren't allowed within 100 metres of children.
Honestly, if it's for your kids, that's pretty good advice. Sadly the people that are likely to see that tweet are highly unlikely to be the type that would need to be told that. Cuz if you're following Nintendo's twitter, odds are you aren't allowed within 100 metres of children.
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this company is distinguished mentally-challenged
No, DO NOT OPEN the box before giving Wii U as a christmas present. People can handle that install time, getting what's practically a second hand / used console is a much, much, MUCH worse alternative. I don't think I would even accept that gift. I know for sure wouldn't be able to enjoy it.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=45670386&postcount=299QuoteNo, DO NOT OPEN the box before giving Wii U as a christmas present. People can handle that install time, getting what's practically a second hand / used console is a much, much, MUCH worse alternative. I don't think I would even accept that gift. I know for sure wouldn't be able to enjoy it.
actually, you may have a point there. without taking a giant huff-full of factory fresh painted plastic, the wiiU might be very hard to enjoy.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=45670386&postcount=299QuoteNo, DO NOT OPEN the box before giving Wii U as a christmas present. People can handle that install time, getting what's practically a second hand / used console is a much, much, MUCH worse alternative. I don't think I would even accept that gift. I know for sure wouldn't be able to enjoy it.
No bigger disappointment then hooking something up and then having to wait another hour for updates, all the little kid buzz would be gone :_(
When I got my N64 for Christmas when I was 11, my parents set it up and had it ready to play. Even had the Mario 64 cartridge in the system. Do you think I gave a flying fuck that it was taken out of the box?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=45670386&postcount=299QuoteNo, DO NOT OPEN the box before giving Wii U as a christmas present. People can handle that install time, getting what's practically a second hand / used console is a much, much, MUCH worse alternative. I don't think I would even accept that gift. I know for sure wouldn't be able to enjoy it.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=45670386&postcount=299QuoteNo, DO NOT OPEN the box before giving Wii U as a christmas present. People can handle that install time, getting what's practically a second hand / used console is a much, much, MUCH worse alternative. I don't think I would even accept that gift. I know for sure wouldn't be able to enjoy it.
When I got my N64 for Christmas when I was 11, my parents set it up and had it ready to play. Even had the Mario 64 cartridge in the system. Do you think I gave a flying fuck that it was taken out of the box?
my parents did the same thing with my snes for my birthday. "hey son, come over here! you gotta check out what's on t.v.!" they had mario world up and running with both controllers plugged in, ready for me and my brothers to play. this was after my dad hyped up the game to me for weeks - "they got a bullet bill that's as big as a fourth of the screen!"
...scuse me guys, i got something in my eye :mario
The Mustachioed Man had this knack for putting new games in our collection without me and my brothers realizing. Sometimes I'd wake up and look through either my Genesis or Snes games(I was that kid) I'll find the new Sonic, Castlevania, Mario or whatever there. And just to make it interesting sometimes he'd leave the games somewhere he knows i'll look.
Good memories.
My dad bought me a Timex 2048 for Christmass once.
Fucking awesome.
I got NES games put in different size boxes or packaging. I think it was more to discourage me from scratching a hole in the wrapping to see what game it is than to surprise me.
You mean good times. Think of all the pussy you'd be drowning if you took labor work more seriously than video games.
ok I guess I'll look like a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow now, but I ordered a wii u online since the basic pack was on sale here in sweden and was 80 dollars cheaper until the 31st of december. A too good of a deal to pass up on even if the system looks meh at this point.
Why why whyyyy
What will you play on it?
Why why whyyyy
What will you play on it?
*is excited for dynasty warriors 8 ignoring the irony*
Why why whyyyy
What will you play on it?
like a battered wife
So you bought a console for a game youre sick off, battered wife indeed!
Why why whyyyy
What will you play on it?
I hear Wii U system update provides hours of enjoyment
when i see people straining to justify buying a wii u based on a handful of mediocre $60 titles, i want to take that $60 and send them an aid package of a dozen superior games from the steam sale.
i cannot imagine how barren and blinkered your gaming horizon must be for things like zombiu to even appear on your radar at that price.
And he knows better, making a big deal about something totally not important, isn't particularly healthy since it spreads false information and dilutes the internet and others may take the unnecessary bait, so I had to act accordingly.
Courtesy of that worst gaf post twitter:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=45808212&postcount=61
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=45808505&postcount=65
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=45809868&postcount=89QuoteAnd he knows better, making a big deal about something totally not important, isn't particularly healthy since it spreads false information and dilutes the internet and others may take the unnecessary bait, so I had to act accordingly.
Nfans would be jizzing in the streets if ZombiU was as good as RE6.
The Mustachioed Man had this knack for putting new games in our collection without me and my brothers realizing. Sometimes I'd wake up and look through either my Genesis or Snes games(I was that kid) I'll find the new Sonic, Castlevania, Mario or whatever there. And just to make it interesting sometimes he'd leave the games somewhere he knows i'll look.
Good memories.
I can live with drops if the drops all stay about 30fps.38fps average, 32fps min, 47fps max. Evidently it's the same as the 3DS version.
Why even bother making a 60 FPS version if 38 is the average? They should've capped it at 30 instead.It might be due to being a direct 3DS port. It also has lower geometry than the Wii original.
Nfans would be jizzing in the streets if ZombiU was as good as RE6.
BUT HAVE YOU PLAYED IT?!?!?!?!?!
:)
Best WiiU game:
Assassin's Creed III
CoD: Black Ops II
Mass Effect 3
Scribblenauts Unlimited
Sonic & Allstars Racing Transformed
so any wii u games coming in 2013?spoiler (click to show/hide)crickets[close]
Pikmin, MH, Bayo, DQ, Wonderful 101.Hm, have we seen any video footage of Bayo yet? I suppose it could make late 2013.
so any wii u games coming in 2013?spoiler (click to show/hide)crickets[close]
Pikmnin, MH, Bayo, DQ, Wonderful 101.
Pikmnin, MH, Bayo, DQ, Wonderful 101.
I'm buying one as soon as I get back to the US, I have a list of Wii games that I've skipped since 2007 so I feel my purchase is more justifiable than others, so my question is: how good is the BC on this thing, and is it only possible with Wiimotes? Also are there WiiU branded remotes and if so how much do they cost?
DQ MMO isn't coming
don't tell the people translating it
I'm buying one as soon as I get back to the US, I have a list of Wii games that I've skipped since 2007 so I feel my purchase is more justifiable than others, so my question is: how good is the BC on this thing, and is it only possible with Wiimotes? Also are there WiiU branded remotes and if so how much do they cost?BC works great and Wii games actually look a bit better thanks to the higher quality signal from HDMI. The only annoying thing about Wii backcompat is that it literally boots a "Wii mode". Like Wii channel interface, only Wii controllers work, you have the shitty ancient Wii Shop and you're limited to a separate 512MB flash pad/SD card fridge.
Do they happen to also be translating DQ7 3DS?DQ MMO isn't coming
don't tell the people translating it
Ive translated a canned game :(
Do they happen to also be translating DQ7 3DS?DQ MMO isn't coming
don't tell the people translating it
Will they drop the monthly fee for DQX outside Japan?
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=45874819
INSANE
Lol it was completely finished
I found DQX to be at least "fun" feeling when I played it but it's got that "quirky Japanese" thang going on along with "about 7 years behind" - if this gets released as is in the west it will get laughed at
The next big things are MOBAs and F2P Facebook/iOS games. I'm not really sure what Activision plan to do. Most of their classic franchises are milked dry. Maybe they'll acquire some new companies.
I'm aware they did "well" but how well are we talking here? Certainly not as well as the PS360, which is apparently all that matters to people embroiled in sales-age and next-gen wars.
All I know is that the Wii numbers were just as unadvertised as the games themselves, but that could partially be attributed to Activision not wanting to divert attention away from their poster child (or versions, in this case).
I'm away from my numbers right now but off the top of my head the best selling CoD on Wii cracked a million in NA and the others all sold several hundred thousand each. Like the DS versions, they sold enormously well for what they were. This year's WiiU CoD (and Vita CoD) will never come within a sniff of those numbers. I'm sure that won't stop Activision from giving the WiiU at least one more go, however.
CoD as a brand is showing signs of slowing down, though, which leaves me wondering what the next big thing will be.
Call of Duty MOBAs
The next big things are MOBAs and F2P Facebook/iOS games. I'm not really sure what Activision plan to do. Most of their classic franchises are milked dry. Maybe they'll acquire some new companies.
Blizzard can always make a game based on that popular Warcraft 3 mod Defense of the Ancients.
The next big things are MOBAs and F2P Facebook/iOS games. I'm not really sure what Activision plan to do. Most of their classic franchises are milked dry. Maybe they'll acquire some new companies.
Blizzard can always make a game based on that popular Warcraft 3 mod Defense of the Ancients.
They are for SC2.
Ive translated a canned game :(
Me too, the game was mercy killed though
Ninthing response, but never say never. COD3 PS3 had a similarly terribad launch (24k in 2 weeks vs 23k in 1 week on Wii U) and that game went on to be a million seller. The situations aren't totally comparable, but launch games often manage to crawl to decent figures, even on systems that shit the bed early on.I'm aware they did "well" but how well are we talking here? Certainly not as well as the PS360, which is apparently all that matters to people embroiled in sales-age and next-gen wars.
All I know is that the Wii numbers were just as unadvertised as the games themselves, but that could partially be attributed to Activision not wanting to divert attention away from their poster child (or versions, in this case).
I'm away from my numbers right now but off the top of my head the best selling CoD on Wii cracked a million in NA and the others all sold several hundred thousand each. Like the DS versions, they sold enormously well for what they were. This year's WiiU CoD (and Vita CoD) will never come within a sniff of those numbers. I'm sure that won't stop Activision from giving the WiiU at least one more go, however.
CoD as a brand is showing signs of slowing down, though, which leaves me wondering what the next big thing will be.
Ive translated a canned game :(
Me too, the game was mercy killed though
OK this has me really curious. SaGa 2 DS? Blood of Bahamut? LOL I know you can't talk about it of course but it's fun to think about.
Hell yes I do! I'm not Nintendo's Takao for nothing.Ninthing response, but never say never. COD3 PS3 had a similarly terribad launch (24k in 2 weeks vs 23k in 1 week on Wii U) and that game went on to be a million seller. The situations aren't totally comparable, but launch games often manage to crawl to decent figures, even on systems that shit the bed early on.
Do you have a pro Nintendo spin for every scenario?
BTW that example is a pretty good spin. You are dem smartie ninfag.
The next big things are MOBAs and F2P Facebook/iOS games. I'm not really sure what Activision plan to do. Most of their classic franchises are milked dry. Maybe they'll acquire some new companies.
Blizzard can always make a game based on that popular Warcraft 3 mod Defense of the Ancients.
They are for SC2.
Hell yes I do! I'm not Nintendo's Takao for nothing.Ninthing response, but never say never. COD3 PS3 had a similarly terribad launch (24k in 2 weeks vs 23k in 1 week on Wii U) and that game went on to be a million seller. The situations aren't totally comparable, but launch games often manage to crawl to decent figures, even on systems that shit the bed early on.
Do you have a pro Nintendo spin for every scenario?
BTW that example is a pretty good spin. You are dem smartie ninfag.
I always thought that meant you were dumb and over-emotional... :P
It would be interesting to see Nintendo create a moba with their characters.
Nintendo doesn't even do RPGs let alone RTS.
Huh, I could've sworm being told COD3 eventually became a million seller (both on PS3 and Wii). Maybe it was worldwide or something then.Well, I'll play DQVII and try DQX, but being honest I'd still rather get Pirate Slime. :[
Ninthing response, but never say never. COD3 PS3 had a similarly terribad launch (24k in 2 weeks vs 23k in 1 week on Wii U) and that game went on to be a million seller. The situations aren't totally comparable, but launch games often manage to crawl to decent figures, even on systems that shit the bed early on.
I was away from my numbers, but something about this didn't sound right, and I was correct. Call of Duty 3 PS3 didn't sell anywhere near even half a million. Funnily enough, the PS3 version of CoD3 barely sold 1/3 of the Wii version of CoD3. If the WiiU CoD BlOps2 legs out like the PS3 CoD3, it will end up selling less than the worst selling Wii CoD.
It would be interesting to see Nintendo create a moba with their characters.
Nintendo doesn't even do RPGs let alone RTS.
Fire Emblem?
Oh Andy, does the presence of a Superior Ninthing threaten u that much? :3
Did they release the much hyped December update that was supposed to speed up the OS? Because Dec is over.
Was a mistranslation, that update was only mentioned in passing. I think the Dec update was just for stability fixes.
Was a mistranslation, that update was only mentioned in passing. I think the Dec update was just for stability fixes.
Did they mistranslate the timing or the existence of an update that'll address the problem? Either way, what a shame. I was really hoping they'd fix it before I buy one.
Was a mistranslation, that update was only mentioned in passing. I think the Dec update was just for stability fixes.
Did they mistranslate the timing or the existence of an update that'll address the problem? Either way, what a shame. I was really hoping they'd fix it before I buy one.
Edit: :\
Edit2: I hope the update that will unlock the CPU's 3rd core and overclock the clock speed will address this.
Indeed.
However, there's a good chance we'll never see as something as ambitious from Miyamoto ever again. Dude wants to make smaller games now.
It took a lot of balls to release that game.
It took a lot of balls to release that game.
Nah, just a lot of hubris. The music game shit was huge at the time too, there was definitely room to do something interesting, get some popular musicians involved, etc. Instead they made the stupidest thing imaginable
Chances of Nintendo making something semi ambitious as Pikmin again: 0%
Nah, that's bull. They make stuff as ambitious or more than Pikmin all the time.
Some random Miiverse pics from gaf which I find adorable:
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(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8217/8313789318_f9f3f7c72b.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/x75Uf.jpg)
(http://www.abload.de/img/img_059864ub1.jpg)
(http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o702/Mukusix/pulpfiction_zps9510904f.png)
(http://www.abload.de/img/img_0590mjp2q.jpg)
(http://www.abload.de/img/img_0546otukx.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/tJ5Bd.jpg)
Chances of Nintendo making something semi ambitious as Pikmin again: 0%
Nah, that's bull. They make stuff as ambitious or more than Pikmin all the time.
I guess it all depends on how "ambitious" you think Pikmin is/was :teehee
By console industry standards, I think it was reasonably ambitious, but not especially so. New IP plus a genre with little in the way of prior success on consoles matched with an atypical setting and style for that genre, backed with a full budget. If we're talking about big boy publishers, I think all of that together counts as ambitious. It certainly wasn't safe or lazy.
But hey, I know some of you guys have special rules just for Nintendo, and it's virtually impossible to have any positive discussion about the company and/or their products here as a result.
Miyamoto admitted that he didn't entirely agree with the decision to make the game less stressful for the player with Pikmin 2 which dropped the time limits that were placed on the player in the original GameCube title.
Asked if his team had to make some important decisions about the direction of Pikmin before they started development, Miyamoto said: "That's actually something that all the staff members had to debate over when we were discussing what kind of direction we should take for Pikmin 3. First of all by looking at Pikmin 1 we noticed that it wasn't a very easy game for people to play, and from time to time they had to feel some stress.
"Our main aim in Pikmin 2 was to get rid of any stress as much as possible, so that it would be very user-friendly. Well, I myself couldn't agree with that direction perfectly. That kind of nature of Pikmin 1 was exactly what I wanted to reproduce and I was actually intentionally doing so, so that Pikmin 1 could be a strategic game."
Miyamoto said that he wanted to get back to basics with Pikmin 3: "When we started creating Pikmin 3 I gathered the main members who worked on Pikmin 2 and talked about how I thought it was important to get back to the basics of Pikmin 1. Or I should say that half of my job at that time wasn't just to talk, but rather to persuade them to understand what I intended to do and to agree to my idea."
Thats unfair, I think Mario Galaxy is generally accepted as one of the best games of the gen here no?
a black friend, you say? well that changes everything
Did you plug in the HDMI cable? Most of the configuration is done with the tablet. Is that also dead?
Fucking piece of crap Nintendo shit hardware. Not only is it overpriced by 200 dollars, but the horseshit is broken too.
As utterly shit the Wii U is, you can't really blame the system unless you have evidence this shit is widespread. This can happen to any piece of electronics. Send it back to Nintendo.
I've heard of a few instances. I'm honestly not sure if there's cause for concern or not, as I have no idea how widespread it is.
SantaC, breh, did you check everything twice? Try putting the Wii U unit into a freezer for 5 minutes - it sometimes help with the electronics (saved me an nVidia GPU once).
nice w
nice w:lol
:lol @ NSMBU being difficult
First I've heard of it, and I'm on the cutting pulse of all things Nintendo.
whoever owned the console before me purchased multiple games, meaning all the games he purchased are available to redownload for free....This is with a new account btw I setup as well. Games are clearly linked to Console itself. Advice to those buying a second hand WiiU's...check all the games on the Store...you might be in for some "free" games!
gaf used wiiu buyerQuotewhoever owned the console before me purchased multiple games, meaning all the games he purchased are available to redownload for free....This is with a new account btw I setup as well. Games are clearly linked to Console itself. Advice to those buying a second hand WiiU's...check all the games on the Store...you might be in for some "free" games!
:D :lol
Eh, if you're selling a console, do a factory reset. Should be standard practice by now.
I think that was it though, the console had been reset
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Eh, if you're selling a console, do a factory reset. Should be standard practice by now.
Yeah, they do that. Had Sony reps play dumb with me on drive failures on PS1s and PS2s and an MS rep play dumb with me on my first RRoD, too.
There's a reason they do that. You win a no-prize if you're clever enough to figure out why.
The systems just cater to different tastes. PS360 appeals mainly to people who like acting out violence and interacting with a visually impressive visual novella, and Wii (U) appeals mainly to people who like intense gameplay with classic arcade levels of challenge and player input.
There is no competition, really. They are practically different types of media.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=46038445&postcount=745QuoteThe systems just cater to different tastes. PS360 appeals mainly to people who like acting out violence and interacting with a visually impressive visual novella, and Wii (U) appeals mainly to people who like intense gameplay with classic arcade levels of challenge and player input.
There is no competition, really. They are practically different types of media.
Yeah, they do that. Had Sony reps play dumb with me on drive failures on PS1s and PS2s and an MS rep play dumb with me on my first RRoD, too.
There's a reason they do that. You win a no-prize if you're clever enough to figure out why.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=46038445&postcount=745QuoteThe systems just cater to different tastes. PS360 appeals mainly to people who like acting out violence and interacting with a visually impressive visual novella, and Wii (U) appeals mainly to people who like intense gameplay with classic arcade levels of challenge and player input.
There is no competition, really. They are practically different types of media.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=46038445&postcount=745QuoteThe systems just cater to different tastes. PS360 appeals mainly to people who like acting out violence and interacting with a visually impressive visual novella, and Wii (U) appeals mainly to people who like intense gameplay with classic arcade levels of challenge and player input.
There is no competition, really. They are practically different types of media.
Wii U = 3am Paid Programminghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_2VASaMB2w
It has the best difficulty curve of any 2D Mario. Also:Guess which console this is on?
It has the best difficulty curve of any 2D Mario. Also:Guess which console this is on?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VY-qcGgaCU
Also see: http://www.tbstactics.com/2010/02/most-difficulthardest-andor-competitive.html
I guess nintendo kiddies have forgotten that "hard" doesn't mean standing on a slowly moving platform for several seconds avoiding coins.
uh oh, andrex has activated one of mjmermaid's strongest aspie points
go read the link to his site that he posted. he's got a very specific and narrow view of what constitutes difficultyNo, I didn't define "difficulty" in that article. I defined some guidelines for games on the list. And if that's aspie then so is every game designer who's ever had to think about such things.
Oh I thought there was more to it. He just doesn't know what difficulty actually is.Using "actually" to pretend your opinion is a fact. Pretty common fallacy.
Didn't actually seem related to what I said, just a way for you to spread around the blog link your undoubtedly proud of.Presumptive strawmanning, more "actually". No surprise that the local Nintendo fanboy is logically bankrupt.
Didn't actually seem related to what I said, just a way for you to spread around the blog link your undoubtedly proud of.Presumptive strawmanning, more "actually". No surprise that the local Nintendo fanboy is logically bankrupt.
go read the link to his site that he posted. he's got a very specific and narrow view of what constitutes difficultyNo, I didn't define "difficulty" in that article. I defined some guidelines for games on the list. And if that's aspie then so is every game designer who's ever had to think about such things.
What's aspie about your guidelines for difficulty is how specific and stringent they are. The metrics you use to talk about difficulty seem to be there to boost the games you like while dismissing the games you don't. Moreover, you'll brook no quarrel with your system. It's very much the kind of self-focused behavior consistent with Asperger's. So is the idea that you're trying to Gotcha me on the definition thing. No, strictly speaking you did not define difficulty at the link, but your personal definition is quite clear even from reading that one page.
You're obviously a very smart guy. You also very obviously have issues with interpersonal communication. Don't let it get you down, tiger. We all have our strengths and weaknesses.
You have a personality; it's just very cold and repulsive. I'm afraid you're going to kill us all.
Haha, I can't even bring myself to kill a cockroach. Don't worry, fella.
But hey, you spent a little while in Winnipeg. I spent most of my life there or near there. Maybe that explains my prickly nature somewhat.
I was replying to the platforming video he posted. Nothing to do with 'curves'.
Ehn, don't worry about it, mj. I like your writing, I don't like your personality that comes across in your writing, and you're not incorrect in your assumption that I'm a rude asshole. I'm just a random Internet guy, and of little consequence.
That doesn't seem to be all that much harder or different in design from a lot of the airships in Mario 3 for example. (Then there's World 8.)
All that level says to me is be patient. There's hardly any enemies and even the jumping flames are not in your face. Aspects of the Lost Levels and occasionally other Mario levels (often ones that auto-scroll) sometimes seem to be saying "too bad lol" when the various elements line up wrong.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nZIpLlNEmo
the true mario hell level
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nZIpLlNEmo
the true mario hell level
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nZIpLlNEmo
the true mario hell level
fuck this game
Surely there must be someone at Nintendo HQ that sees they are eroding their legacy and without it there won't be much left. If they play the casual cheapskates game for too long some other toy will come along and they will be gone.The thing about Nintendo, and this has always been true - always - is that they aren't "cheap" so much as they don't overspend where they feel it's counter productive.
At least Sega went out in style.
Well since my Wii U is at repair at Nintendo, should I get NSMBU? I heard mixed things about that game. Right now I only have Nintendoland.
Santa, why would you not buy the only good game on the system?
Last I heard his Wii U does not work.
Santa, why would you not buy the only good game on the system?
Last I heard his Wii U does not work.
thats right sent it to nintendo. No idea how long it will take to get it back.
Till next-gen.
That level looks hard as hell, did you guys play super meat boy?
The main difference is that one of those games is aimed at 10% of video game players while the other is aimed at everyone and their grandma.
Though having played both all the way through, I will say that while Meat has higher moments of difficulty, it rarely demands the same level of continuous skill/luck as SMB2 does at times. It also doesn't kick you back to beginning of the game if you run through a meager amount of lives.
I pretty much live for fuckhard action/platform games. SMB2 has my respect in terms of challenge. There are many harder games, but it's definitely hard enough that most gamers would not finish it before giving up, and that's crazy for a Mario game. Maybe you should try it before dismissing it? I know that's asking a lot of you.
Though having played both all the way through, I will say that while Meat has higher moments of difficulty, it rarely demands the same level of continuous skill/luck as SMB2 does at times. It also doesn't kick you back to beginning of the game if you run through a meager amount of lives.
Though having played both all the way through, I will say that while Meat has higher moments of difficulty, it rarely demands the same level of continuous skill/luck as SMB2 does at times. It also doesn't kick you back to beginning of the game if you run through a meager amount of lives.
Neither does SMB2j if you hold select or start (I forget which) on the game over screen. Just sends you to the start of the world. Which in World 8 is almost as bad as starting the whole fricking thing over again, but still.
I forget how but All Stars version babbyfied this somehow.
I don't factor cheat codes into a game's difficulty, generally, but yes, there is a continue cheat that lets you start from the beginning of the world you died on. All-Stars lets you save level by level.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a448410/crysis-3-not-coming-to-wii-u-due-to-lack-of-business-drive.html
Such a great partnership EA is having with Nintendo so far :lol
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a448410/crysis-3-not-coming-to-wii-u-due-to-lack-of-business-drive.html
Such a great partnership EA is having with Nintendo so far :lol
2013's biggest releases all seem to be overlooking the Wii U, with DmC: Devil May Cry, Dead Space 3, and BioShock Infinite all sticking to what they know. Do they feel the Wii U is only good for "gimmicky" games, or do they feel the system's not successful enough? It's doubtful anybody in the industry will confess the real reason.
Either way, it's feeling like a real waste to those who enjoy the console, and it doesn't look good.
Let's be honest, Crysis is a benchmark tool, not a game.
all 3rd party games are coming to the wiiu. they just can't say because of NDA
all 3rd party games are coming to the wiiu. they just can't say because of NDA
all 3rd party games are coming to the wiiu. they just can't say because of NDA
all 3rd party games are coming to the wiiu. they just can't say because of NDA
Well this news has certainly upset quite a few people around internet.
Why do we need Crysis anyway?
Crysis should stick to PC
You xfag have no right to joke about Crytek :maf
And yes Crytek should stick to the PC. We would get real Crysis 2 and Crysis 3 then, miles ahead of PS360 titles.
8 months before E3 and many months after this is what it was like between EA and Nintendo. Nintendo noticed that many people commended EA's online system and netcode they did for their Wii games (Madden, Medal of Honor, ect) so they asked them if they could work on contract to help build the core online ecosystem for their next gen console. EA provide a ton of consoling to Nintendo, such as how to make low-latency net code, username account systems, social networks and more. While other companies did provide input as well, EA made sure to provide the most input and support for the Wii U's R&D.
As an reward, EA received development kits even before Ubisoft, Valve or Tecmo Koei. Many of EA's studios were interested, especially Bioware who have been wanting to put their own games on a Nintendo system for ages and finally had the technical ability to do it with a Mass Effect Trilogy port and Dragon Age 3 on slate for the system.
Here comes the problem. At a meeting in Kyoto, a month or so after Peter Moore visited them, Nintendo of Japan showed EA their new Nintendo Network and Miiverse online system for Wii U. They wanted to congratulate them helping them with the support and paid them for their counseling.
This is where reportedly EA according to my friends who were at the meeting the core executives at EA got greedy. They then offered this deal to Nintendo where EA could go further with the online system adding smartphone/tablet functionality, communities, Facebook and Twitter interactions and more. Better netcode and something that would truly rival X-Box Live and PSN.
The catch? Nintendo would have to make the Nintendo Network for Wii U officially part of Origin and run Origin's interface and netcode. Ergo, Nintendo Network would be an Origin-exclusive network.
Nintendo actually did debate for a minute if they should accept EA's deal, but they quickly decided (and put their foot down) that there was WAY more harm than good doing this. Even though Nintendo Network can link to Origin and it's servers, having the core network running on Origin would provide quality control issues. For example, if EA wanted to sell some low end DLC for $50 each when realistically consumers would buy it only for $5, EA could do this without Nintendo having any say since it was their network and not Nintendo's. Also, if a rival company let's say Activision wanted to put Modern Warfare 4 on Wii U, EA could give Activison the WORST netcode and support resources while putting all their back into Battlefield 4, thus making a rival look worse than EA"s products.
These unfair business possibilities and consumer complaints on Origin for PC made Nintendo reject EA's offering for Origin and instead opted to keep the platform open to it's own internal network and able to link/patch in other networks such as Steam and uPlay.
This, like the PSN vs. Capcom incident that caused MH4 to jump ship, destroyed any momentum that Nintendo had with EA for Wii U. While EA still likes Wii U and will support it, from what I understand unless the launch titles or future titles sell way beyond expectations, EA will simply "throw Wii U bones" by putting some multiplatform games without giving them any real budgets. This means we are going to get low quality in terms of budget and manpower ports of various EA games with no soul behind them and thus the original agreement of ME3, FIFA and Madden are gimped and the developers have only that small budget to work with.
Ironically, the good thing that came out of this is that other 3rd parties praised Nintendo. This especially pleased Ubisoft, who was head over heels with the system to begin with and this move further solidified their partnership with the Big N. In a way, Nintendo lost EA and gained the entire good side of Ubisoft instead.
This also gave props to Valve, who also loves the system and since they are hard at work for 5 games in the next three years next year they will show off games for Wii U, starting with a multiplat Left 4 Dead prequel announcement for Q1/Q2 2013.
The real news here is that Valve is working on 5 games.
speaking of tough 8-bit games. I could never beat the original batman for NES. I made it to the joker and died.
That gun of his is brutal, but if you can dodge it, he leaves huge openings. I was able to do it when I was a kid, and it felt like such a big victory at that time. When I went back for a replay a couple years ago, he wasn't too bad at all. I bet you could beat him without much trouble now, Santa.
The real news here is that Valve is working on 5 games.
Hasnt that space sim game been canned?
Gettin' old.
@CastlevaniaLOS Will the Wii U get some LOS 2 love? # Pleasesayyes
@danielwayne - Sorry to disappoint you but no chance.
Good thing that nobody cares about CastlevaniaLOS 2
DC > Marvel.
It's not even close, DC annihilates Marvel
I never played a single Lego game. What exactly am I missing? Is the Lego coat skin-deep or does it go deeper in the design?
Now copy/paste that post in the Vita thread and ask if Takao is ok, Borys. lol.
NEW WII U GAME ANNOUNCED
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POST IF YOU ARE OKAY
Now copy/paste that post in the Vita thread and ask if Takao is ok, Borys. lol.
Yes, most of them are called "children" You've probably seen some at some point.
Yes, most of them are called "children" You've probably seen some at some point.
oh, you mean Nintendo fans
People still play the Lego games?
Yeah, kids love them, and their parents can play with them, too. Not much appeal there for a single adult hardcore gamer, though.
Yep, if there were any games for the Wii U it would have similar complaints.:lol
nyko is releasing an internal battery that nearly triples the battery life of the tablet
http://www.nyko.com/products/product-detail/?name=Power+Pak+for+Wii+U
nintendo was kind enough to give them the space to work with :heart
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The Walking Dead FPS from Activision
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The Walking Dead FPS from Activision
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It's like he's saying "Me and you. Rape dumpster. Now."
Watch it outsell ZombiU 10:1.
Nobody who was stupid enough to buy a WiiU deserves a refund. Put your hand in the fire, you deserve to get burned. Maybe it'll teach you something.
This is so stupid, this makes the WiiU look more like a new sku of regular Wii then anything.The differences are both clear and obvious.
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Battle Quest is pretty fun if you have someone to play with.
we need some new software for this one.
Sometimes I think that Nintendo dont have the resources to support a handheld and a console at the same time. It seems one of them is always going to be very dry.
I've said it before, but I think Nintendo is going to struggle with HD like so many Japanese devs and that's why the output has been subpar so far
Battle Quest? ???
Battle Quest? ???
Legend of Zelda: Battle Quest, part of the CULTURAL PHENOMENON Nintendoland; ffs Andrex, play a Nintendo game every once in a while.
I've said it before, but I think Nintendo is going to struggle with HD like so many Japanese devs and that's why the output has been subpar so far
This is certainly the case, but they're also leaning on other devs to help out. Namco, Grezzo, etc.
battle quest refuses to start. Says point the controller to the TV. Nothing.
shitty software/hardware is shitty.
battle quest refuses to start. Says point the controller to the TV. Nothing.
shitty software/hardware is shitty.
wait your WiiU is still fucked? ???
Do you have a wiimote plugged in? That's the controller you're supposed to point at the TV.
Battle Quest? ???
Legend of Zelda: Battle Quest, part of the CULTURAL PHENOMENON Nintendoland; ffs Andrex, play a Nintendo game every once in a while.
Is it one of those games that needs a motionplus wiimote?
Have you tried moving the sensor? I have mine at the bottom of the TV and it's quite easy to block the signal with your knees if your curled up in the couch.
Did you have the HDMI cable plugged all the way in before, Santa?
Did you have the HDMI cable plugged all the way in before, Santa?
if i was to go get a WiiU today what games would i have to get to have a unique and fun experience
if i was to go get a WiiU today what games would i have to get to have a unique and fun experience
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just gives you time to consider your choices, man
wow the delay in the menus are just horrible. Not even Andrex can defend that shit.
wow the delay in the menus are just horrible. Not even Andrex can defend that shit.
I never have. :lol
Thanks for reminding me of Sadness brah :lol
The funniest thing about Sadness is that the project resulted in exactly as many finished games as Team ICO's work this gen.
The funniest thing about Sadness is that the project resulted in exactly as many finished games as Team ICO's work this gen.
That's not fair, Oscar. Nibris actually released one game.
The funniest thing about Sadness is that the project resulted in exactly as many finished games as Team ICO's work this gen.
I'm kinda like Methodis.
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WEEOO IS SAVED
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Japanese tweet clarifies it'll be talking about first party games/services for Wii U.
Oh man are you guys excited for wednesdayton?
This bring back memories of every nintendo console.
Draught, underwhelmaton, draught, zelda, draught, mario kart, draught, draught, draught, draught, new console.
Resident Evil: Revelations
Japanese tweet clarifies it'll be talking about first party games/services for Wii U.
My god, the Nintendo fans at GAF are HUNGRY.
My god, the Nintendo fans at GAF are HUNGRY.
I still wanna play Red Dead. Is that on Steam yet?
I bet it'll sell a million anyway. Lego games on Wii outsold most games on any platform.
That's lame.
Someone please sell me their copy of Xenoblade 1
So as someone who doesn't have a Wii but wants to play Wii games, is it necessary to pick up either the remote U
pro controller U, or both?
Are they back compatible with Wii games? I just need the bare minimum to play what I missed.
Also, does anyone want to sell their Wii games? The prices I saw were :lol
X looks pretty good.
Today while I was waiting for my carryout food to get ready, I swung by a Gamestop and almost picked one up. As soon as I reached the counter I realized how little I knew about what accessories to get... So as someone who doesn't have a Wii but wants to play Wii games, is it necessary to pick up either the remote U, pro controller U, or both? Are they back compatible with Wii games? I just need the bare minimum to play what I missed. Also, does anyone want to sell their Wii games? The prices I saw were :lol
Where's this TheBlackStallion is hysterical I keep hearing about?
That's lame.
Didn't you say you had a PS3 or something? just get it on that. It's my Game of The Generation and for good reason.
Maybe. What are you looking for?
Pro Controller isn't BC. Wiimote+ and Nunchuk are. Get a set of those and you should be set.
You're going to need a Wii Mote (preferably a Motion Plus) and a nunchuck at the very least.
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Someone plz caption this "Hater's gonna hate."
SMG1, SMG2, Xenoblade, Skyward Sword, Sin & Punishment, Bit.Trip Complete, Trauma Team, Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn, The Last Story, Rhythm Heaven Fever, Little King's Story... if anyone feels like parting with any of these for a reasonable price, please let me know.
EDIT: Andrex why don't you just buy an XBox 360? Its cheaper and has the better ports of third party games.
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Someone plz caption this "Hater's gonna hate."
the new killzone 2 gif
speaking of accessories, I have a boxed wii u pro controller sitting in my closet. There's no real reason to open it yet :-\ (I got it at a discount, that's why)
Really hope someone makes drivers for PC or some homebrew hack to use it on the Wii with CC Pro games.
Does the 360 have HotD Overkill? No? Then sit down and shut up. <3
As an alternative, Shaka, I have the following:
Mario Galaxy 1 & 2, Punch Out, Brawl, Skyward Sword, Mario Kart Wii, Metroid Prime 3, Pikmin 2, Super Paper Mario, and... that's about it I think for good stuff. I'm not really looking to sell anything because I have a kid that might be interested in some of this crap down the road, but if you just want to borrow something for a bit, you just say the word.
Having played both the 360 and PS3 versions of RDR, the PS3 version is noticeably lesser - colors are washed out, texture pop-in is bad, some framerate probs here and there - but it's still a great looking game.
Quote from: Remij;46836689LMAO Phosphor... I've got a top of the line PC and this game looks better than most every MMO I've seen, and puts other 'console' open world games to shame.
:tom:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=509663
That whole thread :smh
Also Pikim 3 looks like garbage. 2001-era ATI demos graphics, yuck.
Yeah the love for pikmin and animal crossing is truly baffling.
Yeah the love for pikmin and animal crossing is truly baffling.
Stockholm Syndrome?
Alright. I'm buying one in a couple of hours. I've never played NSMB Wii, so should I go with NSMB U or Zombi U? The other game is going to be Tekken :punch
Yeah, ended up picking NSMB U, the mall GS didn't have Tekken, I'll pick it later.
One question I have about NSMB, for local MP can the player controlling the pad use it to control a character rather than placing block? I only picked one remote and I'd rather use both to control characters.
... Fuck.
Do you have the Motion Plus Wiimote? Because I swear I was going to ask you if we can Christen it together.
Do you have the Motion Plus Wiimote? Because I swear I was going to ask you if we can Christen it together.
What A surprise, it's not agreeing with my router. If only I was more of a Ninthing, I could have gotten one of those special systems that don't cause you any trouble.
no i do not. havent bought a wii game since mario galaxy
Alright. I'm buying one in a couple of hours. I've never played NSMB Wii, so should I go with NSMB U or Zombi U? The other game is going to be Tekken :punch
Alright. I'm buying one in a couple of hours. I've never played NSMB Wii, so should I go with NSMB U or Zombi U? The other game is going to be Tekken :punch
NSMBU is the only truly great title for the system.
Get the ZombiU demo and see if it's your speed.
ALSO! Give me your NNID. :heart
Some of the things I find slightly annoying so far...It turns off by itself when you for instance boot up a Wii game.
- No way of turning off the display of the gamepad when it's not needed (unless I'm missing something.
- Instances when both the game pad and TV are displaying the same video feed and sound.There is a volume slider on the gamepad. You can turn it off.
- Some of the apps aren't native apps, but rather webapps (Miiverse, eShope, etc).Yes, this is lazy as fuck.
- Slow OS, but that's a given by now.This is my biggest gripe with the system along with no account system and region locking.
- Switching between the TV and gamepad will take more time to get used to. It's not as simple as the DS/3DS, the constant need of cues is indicative of that.Yep, that's an inherent flaw of the system. Have you played Nintendo Land yet? The Space Channel 5 minigame make pretty good use of switching between the two screens.
I'm just trying to give the Wii U an honest chance. If asymmetrical gameplay is its thing then you need to be at least three people to experience it the way it was intended.
What is it that made you decide to buy one now, Shaka?
And why buy Tekken again when you haven't played the PS3 version? Both you and Momo. Time to end that Bore WTF team we had. :maf
i bought a wiiu today :-\
i bought a wiiu today :-\
i went in to buy ni no kuni and instead bought a wii u and maridio im so dum
i bought a wiiu today :-\
miiverse is 4chan for kids
I bought balloon trip to try out virtual console because I'm stupid. Decent improvement over regular wii virtual console. Just needs some video settings for over/underscan and filters (to disable them). Save states is a nice additions that's in some of the 3DS games as well.
A feature virtual console has that should be universal is turning 'off' the tablet screen. It's not 'off' meaning the screen is off, but it displays a black image, which is less distracting.
Emergency Maintenance
From Monday, January 28, 2013 11:00 PM
- Tuesday, January 29, 2013 5:00 PM Pacific Time
Affected Services:
Nintendo DS
Network Services
Pokémon Black Version
Pokémon White Version
Pokémon Black Version 2
Pokémon White Version 2
From Monday, January 28, 2013 5:00 PM
- Monday, January 28, 2013 6:00 PM Pacific Time
Affected Services:
Wii U
Match Making, Ranking, etc.
Warriors Orochi 3 Hyper
From Monday, January 28, 2013 12:00 PM
- Monday, January 28, 2013 5:00 PM Pacific Time
Affected Services:
Wii U
Nintendo eShop
Nintendo 3DS
Nintendo eShop
Wii
Wii Shopping Channel
Nintendo DS
Nintendo DSi Shop
*During the emergency maintenance, parts of the affected services
may be intermittently unavailable.
Methodis bought WiiU,what else
Methodis bought WiiU,what else
i bought a wiiu today :-\
Whats impressive about it compared to what the other consoles offer?
Methodis bought WiiU,what else
i died like 13 times on the desert world boss stage fukkin game is hard
What is it that made you decide to buy one now, Shaka?I kinda bought too many games at that time. But I did take my Nina up to like 16th DAN
And why buy Tekken again when you haven't played the PS3 version? Both you and Momo. Time to end that Bore WTF team we had. :maf
money, impulse control issues
poors wouldn't unnerstand. :-(
Netflix on Wii U is a derpier version of the PS3 version, which is the best one out there.
I wonder whose great idea it was to provide absolutely no continuity feature between TV episodes. Also gotta love the moments where you finish a season 4 episode of a TV show and the menu takes you to season 1 episode 1. Dumb dumb dumb. Even dumber is the fact that just about every other version of Netflix offers this feature.
I'm starting to enjoy the system even more, but biggest gripes remain as the subpar colors/IQ of the gamepad and merely mirroring content on the second screen.
Netflix on Wii U is a derpier version of the PS3 version, which is the best one out there.
I wonder whose great idea it was to provide absolutely no continuity feature between TV episodes. Also gotta love the moments where you finish a season 4 episode of a TV show and the menu takes you to season 1 episode 1. Dumb dumb dumb. Even dumber is the fact that just about every other version of Netflix offers this feature.
I haven't tried the netflix app, but I wanted to comment about Hulu's app: I was hoping that with the better resources and improved HTML5 support the app would be vastly smoother than the PS3 app, but it chugs when navigating just the same.
I can't decide whether to play Xeno on my Wii (ripped to hard drive) or to move the save over to my Wii U and play it there. Can anyone say if the upgrade to HDMI/upscaling is worth anything?
is this thing hackable yet? is Wii bc hackable?
I can't decide whether to play Xeno on my Wii (ripped to hard drive) or to move the save over to my Wii U and play it there. Can anyone say if the upgrade to HDMI/upscaling is worth anything?
Depends on your TV. If it's bad, it'll look better on Wii U. If it's decent to good, it won't be worth it. Wii Wii is better than Wii U Wii for me.
Developer Crystal Dynamics isn't planning to release the new Tomb Raider on the Wii U because of the console's unconventional design. In an interview with True Gaming, creative director Noah Hughes explained that the studio tailored Tomb Raider to deliver the optimal experience for Playstation 3, Xbox, and PC users. However, because "the Wii U often asks you to do something unique based on a unique interface," Crystal Dynamics didn't want to port the game without adapting the experience to fit the console. Likely referencing the Wii U's tablet-like controller, Hughes added "that's something as a gamer I love, but it's something you don't want to do half-heartedly as a developer." While the early days of the Wii U featured a number of high-profile multiplatform games like Assassin's Creed 3 and Mass Effect 3, it will be interesting to see whether Crystal Dynamics' decision to forgo developing Tomb Raider for the system will signal a change in that regard.
Handy game journalist starter sentence for any future Wii U third party news:
Developer _______ isn't planning to release the new ______ on the Wii U because of the console's ___________.
Wow, what a crushing loss for the Wii U.
Wow, what a crushing loss for the Wii U.
yeah the less 3rd party games the better
Wow, what a crushing loss for the Wii U.
yeah the less 3rd party games the better
To Nintards, unless a third party title is exclusive to a Nintendo platform, they don't care about it.
Wow, what a crushing loss for the Wii U.
yeah the less 3rd party games the better
Andrex should pick up Deus Ex: Human Revolution if it does get ported, one of my favorite games ever.
Worth every penny.
Game is great,boss fights are shit though but who cares.Have like 6 playthroughs.Next gen Deux EX please please please :-*
It's like Mad Libs!Oh man the Bore should pool its talents together to form the dev Sphinctersoft! You guys could all pound out some shitty iOS game in a month or something. :lol
Developer Sphinctersoft isn't planning to release the new Fartmaster on the Wii U because of the console's butt.
Oh man the Bore should pool its talents together to form the dev Sphinctersoft! You guys could all pound out some shitty iOS game in a month or something. :lolWe'll pound out something all right :hump
That's the least exciting port ever. How about releasing a console that gets games on time?
Am I supposed to get excited when DmC is ported to the WiiU?
Handy game journalist starter sentence for any future Wii U third party news:
Developer _______ isn't planning to release the new ______ on the Wii U because of the console's ___________.
It's like Mad Libs!
Developer Sphinctersoft isn't planning to release the new Fartmaster on the Wii U because of the console's butt.
It's like Mad Libs!Oh man the Bore should pool its talents together to form the dev Sphinctersoft! You guys could all pound out some shitty iOS game in a month or something. :lol
Developer Sphinctersoft isn't planning to release the new Fartmaster on the Wii U because of the console's butt.
I guess it would depend more on Sega being in dire straits than Nintendo suddenly coming to the conclusion they should buy them.
I mean, Sega has basically had to drop everything but Sonic and Football Manager to avoid being THQ'd. That can't mean the company is completely healthy. And I imagine Nintendo would be first on their list of suiters.
It's almost definitely a bum rumor, but it's fun to think about.
uhh. You don't have much of an understanding of the situation at all. SEGA, or what we think of as SEGA, are essentially three divisions of a very large company called SEGA Sammy Holdings. Those four divisions are Pachinko/Pachislot (Sammy), Amusement Machines (SEGA's arcade game arm), Amusement Facilities (Club SEGA game centers, primarily), and Consumer Business (SEGA's home games arm). The first three divisions are profitable, with the pachinko and amusement facilities divisions in particular making quite a lot of money. The only part of the company losing money is the consumer business, and it doesn't lose enough to make the company on the whole anywhere near non-profitable. Since the merger, there was/is/probably never will be any risk of SEGA being "THQ'd".
Now, I wouldn't rule out that SEGA Sammy might want to divest themselves of the Consumer Business division provided they can't turn things around in a reasonable amount of time, but that is by no means a decision they would make lightly. The IP people are associating with the consumer business division is permeated throughout their other products/divisions, and separating it out/removing it would be a big, expensive job, and weaken the branding of those divisions. This being the case, it's far more likely SEGA Sammy would simply shut down the consumer business division than sell it off.
Nintendo would basically have to buy out the entire company, and I can't imagine they would be willing to pay what that would cost.
You can't agree to someone who is annihilating you
Handy game journalist starter sentence for any future Wii U third party news:
Developer _______ isn't planning to release the new ______ on the Wii U because of the console's ___________.
It's like Mad Libs!
Developer Sphinctersoft isn't planning to release the new Fartmaster on the Wii U because of the console's butt.It's like Mad Libs!Oh man the Bore should pool its talents together to form the dev Sphinctersoft! You guys could all pound out some shitty iOS game in a month or something. :lol
Developer Sphinctersoft isn't planning to release the new Fartmaster on the Wii U because of the console's butt.
:lol
You can't agree to someone who is annihilating you
surely if nintendo were interested in making those kinds of purchases, they'd have bought hudson?I never considered this, but that made too much sense to not happen. Hudson was damn near Nintendo exclusive near the end anyway and was cozy with them for developing Mario Party.
You can't agree to someone who is annihilating you
For the fiscal year in total, Microsoft recorded $73.72 billion in revenue, with operating income at $21.76 billion
Google too. They have been (directly) way better to gamers than Apple with joypad support on android and making gaming a thing on the chrome store.If Nintendo keep bombing how long until MS try to buy Nintendo again ? 8)
I mean - if we are talking about the absorbing of struggling has-been companies and all that.....
i'm not so sure a list containing struggling has-been companies wouldn't have MS's name on it as well. really, the only non-loser non-has-been company in gaming anymore is apple.
Google too. They have been (directly) way better to gamers than Apple with joypad support on android and making gaming a thing on the chrome store.If Nintendo keep bombing how long until MS try to buy Nintendo again ? 8)
I mean - if we are talking about the absorbing of struggling has-been companies and all that.....
i'm not so sure a list containing struggling has-been companies wouldn't have MS's name on it as well. really, the only non-loser non-has-been company in gaming anymore is apple.
I could design a game based around toilets and shit, no sweat
Sphinctersoft's first game should be a neogaf account dungeon crawler. You have to navigate forums and post smackdowns, but there's danger of going into threads that are too dumb for you to handle and idiots swamp you till you get banned. Then you just generate another account. In between threads, you can choose to go back to The Bore neogaf thread to "save your progress" by telling everyone of your account exploits. You also heal and learn techniques by reading the thread. Since it levels you up and helps you, you have to buy pages of the Bore GAF thread through Demi's amazon store with jew gold you get from a fake webcam you set up for your "female account." The more fans you get on gaf, the more you send to the female account, where they spend money to see a "female gaffer" strip. You get prostitutes off the street as your "female account" and you get better looking ones as you get more fans, which makes people give up more money.
After each thread or couple of threads, there's a moderator showdown which is basically a boss battle. In fact, the game has a level select where you can go into a particular moderator's randomly generated set of threads. Each moderator will give a Metal Gear Solid style speech when you beat them. Obviously, the last boss is Evilore. The ending: you have so much money that you can buy gaf. There's a scene where the protagonist busts into Evilore's house and looks at the GAF servers in a giant, mile wide underground facility. You go up to the main frame and plug in a flash card. It begins a program that deletes all of GAF and makes neogaf.com redirect to a flash Himuro Plinko game.
Sphinctersoft's first game should be a neogaf account dungeon crawler. You have to navigate forums and post smackdowns, but there's danger of going into threads that are too dumb for you to handle and idiots swamp you till you get banned. Then you just generate another account. In between threads, you can choose to go back to The Bore neogaf thread to "save your progress" by telling everyone of your account exploits. You also heal and learn techniques by reading the thread. Since it levels you up and helps you, you have to buy pages of the Bore GAF thread through Demi's amazon store with jew gold you get from a fake webcam you set up for your "female account." The more fans you get on gaf, the more you send to the female account, where they spend money to see a "female gaffer" strip. You get prostitutes off the street as your "female account" and you get better looking ones as you get more fans, which makes people give up more money.
After each thread or couple of threads, there's a moderator showdown which is basically a boss battle. In fact, the game has a level select where you can go into a particular moderator's randomly generated set of threads. Each moderator will give a Metal Gear Solid style speech when you beat them. Obviously, the last boss is Evilore. The ending: you have so much money that you can buy gaf. There's a scene where the protagonist busts into Evilore's house and looks at the GAF servers in a giant, mile wide underground facility. You go up to the main frame and plug in a flash card. It begins a program that deletes all of GAF and makes neogaf.com redirect to a flash Himuro Plinko game.
day 3 and i woke up saying "why did I buy a wii u?":
i just literally dont understand why i / anyone would buy it if you have played a ps3 or 360. theres nothing unique about it. the controller has nothing amazing on it. its just so...bleh.
i m a idiot :(
day 3 and i woke up saying "why did I buy a wii u?":
i just literally dont understand why i / anyone would buy it if you have played a ps3 or 360. theres nothing unique about it. the controller has nothing amazing on it. its just so...bleh.
i m a idiot :(
David Gibson @gibbogame
wiiu value proposition not delivered enough to consumers, am selling below cost and not planning to discount further
From the Nintendo results briefingQuoteDavid Gibson @gibbogame
wiiu value proposition not delivered enough to consumers, am selling below cost and not planning to discount further
How is this thing selling below cost? ???
From the Nintendo results briefingQuoteDavid Gibson @gibbogame
wiiu value proposition not delivered enough to consumers, am selling below cost and not planning to discount further
How is this thing selling below cost? ???
GamePad is expensive, yo.
From the Nintendo results briefingNintendo's stubborn and makes everything proprietaryQuoteDavid Gibson @gibbogame
wiiu value proposition not delivered enough to consumers, am selling below cost and not planning to discount further
How is this thing selling below cost? ???
From the Nintendo results briefingNintendo's stubborn and makes everything proprietaryQuoteDavid Gibson @gibbogame
wiiu value proposition not delivered enough to consumers, am selling below cost and not planning to discount further
How is this thing selling below cost? ???
From the Nintendo results briefingNintendo's stubborn and makes everything proprietaryQuoteDavid Gibson @gibbogame
wiiu value proposition not delivered enough to consumers, am selling below cost and not planning to discount further
How is this thing selling below cost? ???
Like their memory cards... oh.
And their hard drives... oh.
ok, now what about all the other parts the system is made up of?
ok, now what about all the other parts the system is made up of?
You're right, no other consoles use custom parts. What is Nintendo thinking?
ok, now what about all the other parts the system is made up of?
You're right, no other consoles use custom parts. What is Nintendo thinking?
So I guess if custom parts aren't the problem, it must just be that Nintendo is shit at making hardware.
ok, now what about all the other parts the system is made up of?
You're right, no other consoles use custom parts. What is Nintendo thinking?
So I guess if custom parts aren't the problem, it must just be that Nintendo is shit at making hardware.
Agreed, they don't have the manufacturing muscle of Sony and Microsoft.
ok, now what about all the other parts the system is made up of?
You're right, no other consoles use custom parts. What is Nintendo thinking?
So I guess if custom parts aren't the problem, it must just be that Nintendo is shit at making hardware.
Agreed, they don't have the manufacturing muscle of Sony and Microsoft.
Wii U bomba-de-bombo, bomb bomb wii u, etc. etc.
http://www.costco.com/Nintendo-Wii-U-8GB-Basic-Set.product.100021629.html
http://www.costco.com/Nintendo-Wii-U-32-GB-Deluxe-Set.product.100021626.html
Basic Set - $244.97
Deluxe Set - $299.97
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Wii U bomba-de-bombo, bomb bomb wii u, etc. etc.
http://www.costco.com/Nintendo-Wii-U-8GB-Basic-Set.product.100021629.html
http://www.costco.com/Nintendo-Wii-U-32-GB-Deluxe-Set.product.100021626.html
Basic Set - $244.97
Deluxe Set - $299.97
It would still need games coming out in the near future that interest me.
I don't get it. ???
WiiU can't go outside and play games?
Another one has fallen...
I don't normally miss a chance to disagree with diunx, but I'm also pretty surprised how many boreans are buying in on this turkey.
then again, vita also has fairly high ownership here, so maybe it's just that everyone is flush with cash and doesn't give a fuck.
Personally, all I wanted is a system that lets me play console games on a small screen in front of my TV and so far the Wii U seems perfect for that.
The eShop really could be better organized, I think the 3DS's store is much better. I could only find 4 demos, is that all it has at the moment?
I don't normally miss a chance to disagree with diunx, but I'm also pretty surprised how many boreans are buying in on this turkey.I give a fuck enough to wait until it's cheap/the os is better/the games I want are actually out.
then again, vita also has fairly high ownership here, so maybe it's just that everyone is flush with cash and doesn't give a fuck.
The 3DS e-shop is borderline incomprehensible. why aren't there any meta categories? that's, like, the first thing you make. :lol
put a simple menu with these options: 3DS Full games, 3DS Demos, 3DS digital games, Virtual Console-- and sub-categories in each. also, non-game headings for Video, trailers, etc. I just took 10 seconds and came up with a better design.
I should be able to touch a button and get a navigable list...that's functionality. Instead, the 3DS gives you a smattering of shit, along with a bunch of oddly-curated video content.
The 3DS e-shop is borderline incomprehensible. why aren't there any meta categories? that's, like, the first thing you make. :lol
put a simple menu with these options: 3DS Full games, 3DS Demos, 3DS digital games, Virtual Console-- and sub-categories in each. also, non-game headings for Video, trailers, etc. I just took 10 seconds and came up with a better design.
I should be able to touch a button and get a navigable list...that's functionality. Instead, the 3DS gives you a smattering of shit, along with a bunch of oddly-curated video content.
The 3DS e-shop is borderline incomprehensible. why aren't there any meta categories? that's, like, the first thing you make. :lol
put a simple menu with these options: 3DS Full games, 3DS Demos, 3DS digital games, Virtual Console-- and sub-categories in each. also, non-game headings for Video, trailers, etc. I just took 10 seconds and came up with a better design.
I should be able to touch a button and get a navigable list...that's functionality. Instead, the 3DS gives you a smattering of shit, along with a bunch of oddly-curated video content.
Don't get me wrong, the 3DS store is bad - I just think the Wii U's store is worse. On the 3DS I can at least scroll over and find the New Demos or New Releases catagories. I scroll down to demos on the Wii U and 4 are listed... but there is no demos catagory or see all option (that I could find at least). Are those the featured demos? Is that the full list? Plus I hate how all the handheld stuff is lumped in. Can I even buy 3DS games on the Wii U? I brought over my 3DS Mii and club nintendo account but it didn't bring over my 3DS wallet which has like $7 in it or something
I don't normally miss a chance to disagree with diunx, but I'm also pretty surprised how many boreans are buying in on this turkey.
then again, vita also has fairly high ownership here, so maybe it's just that everyone is flush with cash and doesn't give a fuck.
The 3DS e-shop is borderline incomprehensible. why aren't there any meta categories? that's, like, the first thing you make. :lol
put a simple menu with these options: 3DS Full games, 3DS Demos, 3DS digital games, Virtual Console-- and sub-categories in each. also, non-game headings for Video, trailers, etc. I just took 10 seconds and came up with a better design.
I should be able to touch a button and get a navigable list...that's functionality. Instead, the 3DS gives you a smattering of shit, along with a bunch of oddly-curated video content.
I don't normally miss a chance to disagree with diunx, but I'm also pretty surprised how many boreans are buying in on this turkey.
then again, vita also has fairly high ownership here, so maybe it's just that everyone is flush with cash and doesn't give a fuck.
the wiiu shop is horrid too. its like impossible to find new releases / demos / wii u games that are downloadbale
I want some more gaming AIDS. Donkey Kong Crash AIDS, Metroid Battle AIDS and Animal Crossing Sweet AIDS are all kind of fun. As is Chasey Mario AIDS and Luigi's ManAIDS. Some gaming AIDS in nintendoland reminds me of some 1980s gaminh AIDS like Pacman, and some of more modern physics gameplay based AIDS like Trials HD...
In other news, BLOPS2 WiiU is only $30:
http://www.amazon.com/Call-Duty-Black-Ops-Wii-U/dp/B002I0GD06
It's actually pretty good if you like these games.. Prestige in bed or while having a poo, take a friend online without having to use split screen etc.
Q. Isnt the WiiU architecture too much focused on the GPU?
Miyamoto : For High End graphics there is a hurdle, since we have to reeducate our people. The development itself hasnt changed but we are recruiting specialists that can become core members in each specialized area. External Developers are used to shader techniques and we are collaborating a lot with external companies nowadays so we have a very good development structure.
Iwata: Every gaming hardware has its specialities. There is a timing of hit and miss before the functions can be used fully. We were not able to provide development kits that get out all the power of wiiu until mid of last year. With other gaming consoles firms had 6 to 7 years to experiment but our console has a different balance so it is easy to see who has adapted and who hasnt. However this is something time will heal so we are not too worried.
Takeda : WiiU is a machine that has a lot of performance compared to its power consumption. The GPU is definately more pronounced than the CPU . There are people saying that the CPU is weak but that is not true. It is a trendl that the cash memory is whats getting biggrr with CPUs not the processing power. i do not think at the CPu is underpowered. Its just a design where the memory is more stressed.
shaka, i am disappoint. nintendo land is gaming aids, and you're sellin' it up like some kinda bug catcher >:(There's never been anything crappy or bottomfeeder about Nintendo's expanded audience IP like Miis and Wii-themed world games. Wii Sports Resort is really an incredibly well made production.
shaka, i am disappoint. nintendo land is gaming aids, and you're sellin' it up like some kinda bug catcher >:(There's never been anything crappy or bottomfeeder about Nintendo's expanded audience IP like Miis and Wii-themed world games. Wii Sports Resort is really an incredibly well made production.
Those games offend the sensibility of some fans, and so are recontextualized as trash. Hurt feelings don't a fact make, however.
shaka, i am disappoint. nintendo land is gaming aids, and you're sellin' it up like some kinda bug catcher >:(
I don't get it, why would you guys buy this? there are no fucking games!This kind of reasoning is really crazy.
the mii aesthetic is the very definition of diluted, for-the-masses sanitized garbage
I don't get it, why would you guys buy this? there are no fucking games!This kind of reasoning is really crazy.
Nintendo wants to make what people want. They're a company. They want to make money. If you think Apple just "makes what they want, fuck everyone else", that's crazy too. Apple wants to make money, that's what they want. What Apple doesn't care about are the particulars of a certain audience of technology power users who deride their products for focusing on things that aren't important the the Ur Nerds. Apple is VERY conscious about making what their audience wants to see, or as best they estimate what it wants to see. Nintendo, frankly, is in the same position.
Nintendo pisses off hardcore gamers, huge nerds, and huge geeks, because Nintendo doesn't cater every detail of their image just to those people - the people who feel that they "own" gaming, because they are its number 1 fans. You saw this six years ago when hardcore gamers and geeks got pissed royally off at the Wii, and remain pissed off to this day, because it wasn't aimed strictly at themselves. "The Casuals" became a new curseword for all that was wrong in the Green and Good land of video games.
Nintendo isn't arrogant. They have gotten knocked around quite a lot, and it's bloody obvious they're responding to it. Fantasies about their continued "arrogance" and not caring about anyone, including developers, goes straight against what actual developers have said and are saying about their current experiences with Nintendo. With the 3DS, I think it would be most accurate to say Nintendo was overconfident. Overconfidence and arrogance are not always the same thing. They had too much confidence in 3rd party software at launch. Confidence in the direction the pop culture market had seemed to be going when the 3DS was revealed.
When it was clear things were going wrong, they didn't arrogantly blame everything on people "Just not getting it" or on developers (even though developers did toss the usual shovelware on 3DS at launch, and Nintendo could have blamed that). They cut the price, gave early adopters free shit, and reorganized development resources with lighting speed to get major first party games out the door by the first Christmas. And Iwata took a pay cut.
As far as Wii U goes, what I'd suspect is that the complexity of the product and its supporting services are straining them, and besides the fact that the mainstream doesn't care about all the same things the hardcore do, they are in much the same situation as the 3DS: struggling to get everything in order and ready even up until, and past, launch. In Wii U's case, they just seem to have more of it a little more ready - Miiverse at launch, E-Shop at launch, etc. And yes, if there's one thing that objectively sucks, it's Nintendo of America's marketing. That has little to do with "arrogance" and more incompetence and a seeming inability to get any bead on the American market.
I don't get it, why would you guys buy this? there are no fucking games!This kind of reasoning is really crazy.
Nintendo wants to make what people want. They're a company. They want to make money. If you think Apple just "makes what they want, fuck everyone else", that's crazy too. Apple wants to make money, that's what they want. What Apple doesn't care about are the particulars of a certain audience of technology power users who deride their products for focusing on things that aren't important the the Ur Nerds. Apple is VERY conscious about making what their audience wants to see, or as best they estimate what it wants to see. Nintendo, frankly, is in the same position.
Nintendo pisses off hardcore gamers, huge nerds, and huge geeks, because Nintendo doesn't cater every detail of their image just to those people - the people who feel that they "own" gaming, because they are its number 1 fans. You saw this six years ago when hardcore gamers and geeks got pissed royally off at the Wii, and remain pissed off to this day, because it wasn't aimed strictly at themselves. "The Casuals" became a new curseword for all that was wrong in the Green and Good land of video games.
Nintendo isn't arrogant. They have gotten knocked around quite a lot, and it's bloody obvious they're responding to it. Fantasies about their continued "arrogance" and not caring about anyone, including developers, goes straight against what actual developers have said and are saying about their current experiences with Nintendo. With the 3DS, I think it would be most accurate to say Nintendo was overconfident. Overconfidence and arrogance are not always the same thing. They had too much confidence in 3rd party software at launch. Confidence in the direction the pop culture market had seemed to be going when the 3DS was revealed.
When it was clear things were going wrong, they didn't arrogantly blame everything on people "Just not getting it" or on developers (even though developers did toss the usual shovelware on 3DS at launch, and Nintendo could have blamed that). They cut the price, gave early adopters free shit, and reorganized development resources with lighting speed to get major first party games out the door by the first Christmas. And Iwata took a pay cut.
As far as Wii U goes, what I'd suspect is that the complexity of the product and its supporting services are straining them, and besides the fact that the mainstream doesn't care about all the same things the hardcore do, they are in much the same situation as the 3DS: struggling to get everything in order and ready even up until, and past, launch. In Wii U's case, they just seem to have more of it a little more ready - Miiverse at launch, E-Shop at launch, etc. And yes, if there's one thing that objectively sucks, it's Nintendo of America's marketing. That has little to do with "arrogance" and more incompetence and a seeming inability to get any bead on the American market.
am i the only who reads these kinds of posts like the poster is cutting an angry promo?
the mii aesthetic is the very definition of diluted, for-the-masses sanitized garbage
My god-daughter uses her 3DS more for making Mii's than playing games. She thinks it's hilarious when they fall asleep.
I actually played a Wii U game last night!spoiler (click to show/hide)Balloon Fight. 30 cents for Famicom/NES games is a great idea.[close]
the mii aesthetic is the very definition of diluted, for-the-masses sanitized garbage
- improved loadtimes
- jump to top-arrow
- sort by favorite communitys (starred ones)
- sort communitys for most yeah'ed posts
- games available on eshop now have a direct link to it.
- "other communitys"-button. unused for now.
And it def wouldnt be android if at all.
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Miiverse was updated but since it's just a site there's nothing to download and install. From GAF:Quote- improved loadtimes
- jump to top-arrow
- sort by favorite communitys (starred ones)
- sort communitys for most yeah'ed posts
- games available on eshop now have a direct link to it.
- "other communitys"-button. unused for now.
The load times look so much better. :bow2 Bring on Miiverse for smartphones.
They'll also show Retro's game.
Mario Kart Galaxy Uwat
Mario Karty U
"U" is the worst Nintendo title theme yet. Even "DS" sounds better in a title.
aw but I was really looking forward to 'karty' and 'galaxy cart' from that list. DISAPPOINTMENTON
leaks tend to derive from development kit and SDK documentation and, as we understand it, this crucial information simply wasn't available in Nintendo's papers, with developers essentially left to their own devices to figure out the performance level of the hardware.
DF analysis,nothing new,good troll(click) bait though
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-wii-u-graphics-power-finally-revealed
There is one "interesting" thing thoughQuoteleaks tend to derive from development kit and SDK documentation and, as we understand it, this crucial information simply wasn't available in Nintendo's papers, with developers essentially left to their own devices to figure out the performance level of the hardware.
translating is hard,please understand
gaf thread is historyThat gaf thread is cray cray laden, I love it
What REALLY rustles my jimmies are the distinguished mentally-challenged fellows who say Wii U is not next-gen but is next-gen at the same time according to some weird-ass Nintendo logic.
"Not next-gen hardware but next-gen console" something like that.
Idiots.
Can't wait till PS4/ 720 hits and not a single 3rd party dev gives a shit about Wii U anymore.
Can't wait till PS4/ 720 hits and not a single 3rd party dev gives a shit about Wii U anymore.
What REALLY rustles my jimmies are the distinguished mentally-challenged fellows who say Wii U is not next-gen but is next-gen at the same time according to some weird-ass Nintendo logic.
"Not next-gen hardware but next-gen console" something like that.
Idiots.
Nintendo's in-house development teams are only now coming to terms with what it takes to create software in high definition, and we can expect future release to be more visually advanced that what has already come, president Satoru Iwata has told investors.
"I may add that each game console has its own unique qualities, and developers must go through a trial and error phase to acquire the knack of taking full advantage of them," said Iwata. "This time does not come until a final version of the hardware and development tools for the version have been made available and then a base for software development has been established.
"For Wii U, such a time finally came in the latter half of last year. In this sense, we could not avoid the trial and error stage to create games which take full advantage of the hardware. I think that this is true for third-party software developers as well as Nintendo's. The home consoles of other companies are six or seven years old and software developers have sufficiently studied them and know how to take full advantage of them well. As Wii U is new to them, some developers have already acquired the knack and made good use of its features and others have not.
"You might see this gap among the games that are currently available. However, we are not much concerned about this problem because time will eventually solve it. Actually, we believe that our in-house development teams have almost reached the next stage."
Iwata added that "it is not true that we are deadlocked with a lot of trouble in our development. Otherwise, we could not aim for 100 billion yen or more in operating profit for the next fiscal year".
Shigeru Miyamoto added: "We already went through this initial learning phase and are now tackling how to take full advantage of high-definition graphics. In this sense, retraining our developers used to be a great hurdle."
The Mario creator also revealed that Nintendo's inexperience with high definition development is one of the reasons the platform holder has chosen to partner with external studios more versed in the art.
"The other point is that many of our third-party software developers have been dedicated to technologies like shaders. As Wii U is designed to bring out their real strengths, there have recently been more cases where we develop something with their help," said Miyamoto. "It has been more convenient for us to work together with them because they have been able to more smoothly utilize their know-how for development for Wii U."
What REALLY rustles my jimmies are the distinguished mentally-challenged fellows who say Wii U is not next-gen but is next-gen at the same time according to some weird-ass Nintendo logic.
"Not next-gen hardware but next-gen console" something like that.
Idiots.
If only anyone could explain to me why the low power consumption is so important to Nintendo. Why spend all this money on making something small. We arent talking an eco friendly car here.
They could still make a have decent box with some normal off the shelf parts if they wanted without being 7 years behind in power.
If only anyone could explain to me why the low power consumption is so important to Nintendo. Why spend all this money on making something small. We arent talking an eco friendly car here.
They could still make a have decent box with some normal off the shelf parts if they wanted without being 7 years behind in power.
If only anyone could explain to me why the low power consumption is so important to Nintendo. Why spend all this money on making something small. We arent talking an eco friendly car here.
They could still make a have decent box with some normal off the shelf parts if they wanted without being 7 years behind in power.
i'd also add that since fukushima, electricity costs a bloody arm and a leg in japan
my last two months electricity bills have both been over $300 for a two bedroom apartment
Yeah, I have $300 in gas bills on top of my $700 electricity bill.
Anyway, what matters is the Japanese mindset on it. Even before March 11, low energy consumption was a major selling feature on electronics here. After? Stores turn off their automatic doors for most of the day, vending machines turn of their cooling systems at night, and people do everything they can to cut down on usage. It's an extremely valued feature for Japanese, which likely explains why Nintendo, a Japan-focused company that has proven more stubbornly Japanese than most, emphasizes it so strongly.
But hey, maybe I'm wrong and we should go with your theory, which is probably that Nintendo are poopyheads or something.
My electricity bill is $40 :o Hell my whole monthly bill for rent + land phone + internet + cellphone + electricity + gas for 2 cars is $400 :o
:bow 3rd world country :bow2
Can't wait till PS4/ 720 hits and not a single 3rd party dev gives a shit about Wii U anymore.
I don't think you need to wait for PS4/720 for that to happen.
$30 for electric, $18 for gas. 'Merica.
Why are they even photoshopping Reggie there? :lol He is no competition for Sony. Poor Reggie.
Do you consider the lawyer competition for the T-Rex? I think it's pretty apt, personally.
lol, Rayman Legends no longer Wii U. At least I can play it if I enjoy Origins - still havent played that
lol, Rayman Legends no longer Wii U. At least I can play it if I enjoy Origins - still havent played that
:lol This game had some Wii fans saying it was only possible on the Wii U.
lol, Rayman Legends no longer Wii U. At least I can play it if I enjoy Origins - still havent played that
:lol This game had some Wii fans saying it was only possible on the Wii U.
Oh, are the PS3 and 360 going to get asymmetrical, 5-player multiplayer bork? Are they!? Didn't think so.
:bow Wii U :bow2
Everyone needs to write letters to Ubisoft.
Let them know that they just made the biggest mistake of their professional lives. Let them know that we've all had Rayman pre-ordered for months and now we're going to cancel them because of this. Porting the game is one thing, but delaying it another 7 months because of the port is absolutely unacceptable.
I've never felt so betrayed by a publisher before. This is a terrible business decision through and through. But we need to make it clear to them that the reason this is now going to flop on Wii U is because of their own shady business practices.
Everyone needs to write letters to Ubisoft.
Let them know that they just made the biggest mistake of their professional lives. Let them know that we've all had Rayman pre-ordered for months and now we're going to cancel them because of this. Porting the game is one thing, but delaying it another 7 months because of the port is absolutely unacceptable.
I've never felt so betrayed by a publisher before. This is a terrible business decision through and through. But we need to make it clear to them that the reason this is now going to flop on Wii U is because of their own shady business practices.
Link to pasta.
Everyone needs to write letters to Ubisoft.
Let them know that they just made the biggest mistake of their professional lives. Let them know that we've all had Rayman pre-ordered for months and now we're going to cancel them because of this. Porting the game is one thing, but delaying it another 7 months because of the port is absolutely unacceptable.
I've never felt so betrayed by a publisher before. This is a terrible business decision through and through. But we need to make it clear to them that the reason this is now going to flop on Wii U is because of their own shady business practices.
Shitty software sales do that,see Vita :teehee
Imagine what is happening to unannounced stuff right now...
Shitty software sales do that,see Vita :teehee
Imagine what is happening to unannounced stuff right now...
spoiler - a load of WiiU stuff got "indefinitely delayed" months before the machine launch. I'm not joking. :lol
Shitty software sales do that,see Vita :teehee
Imagine what is happening to unannounced stuff right now...
spoiler - a load of WiiU stuff got "indefinitely delayed" months before the machine launch. I'm not joking. :lol
Nintendo needs new games RIGHT NOW. Not in a few months, not "maybe starting next year", but RIGHT NOW. That they could bungle this launch so badly, with all the warning signs out there, just boggles my mind. If anyone even remembers that the Wii U exist, aside from a few hardcores, by the end of this year, I will be surprised [barring some miraculous comeback spurred on by a massive software push from Nintendo].
No!! No fucking way, No!!
This is fucking bullshit! Absolute, grade-A fucking bullshit!! I've had this game pre-ordered since September of last year, thinking it was going to be a launch title and they pull this bullshit?! No. Fucking no. This game is ready to go on Wii U. It's done. It's pretty much ready to ship. They can't lie about that.
This game was my game of E3 last year. It was the #1 reason I bought a Nintendo Wii U in the first Goddamn place. Now they're gonna fuck over their customers by announcing a delay 3 weeks before it was gonna launch? Fuck that, I'm writing letters and so should you.
Write to Nintendo. Let them know how important a title this is NOT to be delayed again. Let them know you may just trade in your system if this game does not come out on it's expected date.
Write to Ubisoft. Let them know how much you've been waiting and wanting to play this game. Tell them that they're fucking over their fanbase by delaying this game just to appease to the dudebro crowd. Tell them if they go along with this, you will NOT buy a new copy and wait until you can get it used because if they do this, they won't see a god damn dime of my money.
This is NOT the news I needed to wake up to right now. God damn you Ubisoft.
oh, they think they're going to get that fall video game season money. Too bad nobody has bought like the last 10 Rayman games, regardless if they were brilliant like Origins.
Nintendo needs new games RIGHT NOW. Not in a few months, not "maybe starting next year", but RIGHT NOW. That they could bungle this launch so badly, with all the warning signs out there, just boggles my mind. If anyone even remembers that the Wii U exist, aside from a few hardcores, by the end of this year, I will be surprised [barring some miraculous comeback spurred on by a massive software push from Nintendo].
oh, they think they're going to get that fall video game season money. Too bad nobody has bought like the last 10 Rayman games, regardless if they were brilliant like Origins.
Everyone will be preparing their undies for GTA V and saving pennies towards the new consoles which are going to be announced imminently.. There'll probably be more fall titles announced by other publishers on all platforms by E3 too. If it bombs how can anyone argue its not a bomb of their own making?
oh, they think they're going to get that fall video game season money. Too bad nobody has bought like the last 10 Rayman games, regardless if they were brilliant like Origins.
Everyone will be preparing their undies for GTA V and saving pennies towards the new consoles which are going to be announced imminently.. There'll probably be more fall titles announced by other publishers on all platforms by E3 too. If it bombs how can anyone argue its not a bomb of their own making?
WiiU owners should still buy it. Not like they have any other games (GTA) to look forward to
No!! No fucking way, No!!
This is fucking bullshit! Absolute, grade-A fucking bullshit!! I've had this game pre-ordered since September of last year, thinking it was going to be a launch title and they pull this bullshit?! No. Fucking no. This game is ready to go on Wii U. It's done. It's pretty much ready to ship. They can't lie about that.
This game was my game of E3 last year. It was the #1 reason I bought a Nintendo Wii U in the first Goddamn place. Now they're gonna fuck over their customers by announcing a delay 3 weeks before it was gonna launch? Fuck that, I'm writing letters and so should you.
Write to Nintendo. Let them know how important a title this is NOT to be delayed again. Let them know you may just trade in your system if this game does not come out on it's expected date.
Write to Ubisoft. Let them know how much you've been waiting and wanting to play this game. Tell them that they're fucking over their fanbase by delaying this game just to appease to the dudebro crowd. Tell them if they go along with this, you will NOT buy a new copy and wait until you can get it used because if they do this, they won't see a god damn dime of my money.
This is NOT the news I needed to wake up to right now. God damn you Ubisoft.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=47428652&postcount=855
Amazing thread, cant believe so many people butt hurt over a rayman game :lol
will buy the up-port to ps3
Shitty software sales do that,see Vita :teehee
Imagine what is happening to unannounced stuff right now...
spoiler - a load of WiiU stuff got "indefinitely delayed" months before the machine launch. I'm not joking. :lol
Wait until E3,Nintendo ninjas NDA :lol
I almost feel bad for people that believed in that,almost.
THESE TEARS ARE AMAZING, AMAZING
Ok boys. Time to stop taking crap from Nintendo/Ubisoft about this deal.
You and many others bought a Wii U with the idea that Rayman Legends would be an exclusive to the system. Rayman Legends has been marketed this way before and during the sale of the Wii U. That it would be exclusive to the Wii U. And, because it was going to be exclusive, you and many other purchased a Wii U only for this reason.
In our opinion, this is a violation of anti-trade laws, so, a class-action suit is in the midst of being filed. If you would like to be part of this, simply sign here with "I wish to be part of this suit". If we get at least 50 persons into this, we will point you in the direction of a special website soon where you could be part of a class-action suit against Ubisoft/Nintendo or both.
Beware of those who come onto this thread and claim, "You can't sue them, there is no case, etc." There is a clearly a case here as we have many marketing materials that demonstrate Rayman Legends as a Wii U exclusive. The delay is one thing (and will perhaps be part of the suit). The Wii U exclusivity promise, and now being available on all platforms, is an outrage.
Sign here if you are a Wii U owner and if you would like to be part of this suit.
What's with all the GTAV stuff? Isn't that one not coming to the WiiU?
What's with all the GTAV stuff? Isn't that one not coming to the WiiU?
They're suggesting that it's a dumb move to wait for the PS3/360 to release when those versions will theoretically get steamrolled by big releases like GTA. Meanwhile, the Wii U has owners starved for a good game right now, so, the suggestion is that the delay is a boneheaded move on all fronts.
And honestly, I can see some reasoning to support that. Honestly, this is a surprising move at this stage in the game. I'd have love to be a fly on the wall when it was communicated to Nintendo that this game was being delayed and is no longer exclusive, because it's almost impossible not to see that as anything but a slap in the face at this point. As someone who liked Origins but is not terribly invested in the Rayman franchise, I'm just sitting back and laughing.
That GAF thread has more views than people who will actually buy a Rayman game
I agree it totally sucks. However, you'd think Nintendo fans would be used to get crapped on by third-parties by now.
That GAF thread has more views than people who will actually buy a Rayman game
Not surprised about the multiplat. That was in the cards no matter what. The delay is a little odd, but given how WiiU software is selling, it's not a hard case to make.
Shame Wonderful 101/Bayo 2 aren't normal 3rd party exclusives.
I agree it totally sucks. However, you'd think Nintendo fans would be used to get crapped on by third-parties by now.
Battered wives?
Zombie U is next I hope. Gimme dat PS3 version, Ubi.
Zombie U is next I hope. Gimme dat PS3 version, Ubi.
yeah, being as this is the only wii u game i am interested in right now, i'd like to see it
dunno how they'd pull off the "scanning" stuff with the controller, though
Zombie U is next I hope. Gimme dat PS3 version, Ubi.
yeah, being as this is the only wii u game i am interested in right now, i'd like to see it
dunno how they'd pull off the "scanning" stuff with the controller, though
Eh, I think it'd be fine. All the GamePad stuff is kind of clunky and annoying in my mind anyway.
Monster Hunter series producer, Ryozo Tsujimoto, shared the information with Gamereactor in a recent interview. This means that American players will not be able to play online with European players, and neither one will be able to play with Japanese players either. Capcom have since confirmed the news on their forums.
Read more at http://www.siliconera.com/2013/02/07/monster-hunter-3-ultimates-online-multiplayer-is-region-locked/#IfuSu54yk8BGiPcl.99
I agree it totally sucks. However, you'd think Nintendo fans would be used to get crapped on by third-parties by now.
Battered wives?
They don't complain, though. They take it and act like it's a good thing.
I completely understand you but you have to understand one thing. This is not a decission taken by the development team, this comes from really really high up, so please don't pick on the game.
If you're pissed, imagine how we feel. Think on the situation, we've been making overtime with this game practically since May preparing E3, and then almost a demo per month (gamescon, Wii U presentation, shops, eShop, etc...) and at the same time trying to actually finish the game. We had a first delay because it was obvious we couldn't finish on time but we gave it all to be there on February. What face do you think we had when the week we had to close the game we're being told it's not going to be released? I couldn't believe it.
For practical matters, you'll have to wait for some months for the game to be released and will most likely serve for more content to be added and do it better. For us, this means we've spent 6 months barely seeing our wifes, kids, and friends for nothing because, after all, such a haste wasn't needed. Believe it, it was a hell to swallow these news.
Even then I'm firm in what I said back in the day, Rayman Legends is an excellent game and will still be, and the team that's making it doesn't deserve to have your back turned on them just because some men in ties one day took a wrong choice. This industry is really that shitty
THESE TEARS ARE AMAZING, AMAZING
THESE TEARS ARE AMAZING, AMAZING
Howard was right, white tears ARE delicious!
Hey guys great news, Rayman Legends is coming to more platforms so more gamers can enjoy it! :)
Wait.. what's going on in this thread? :( oh god
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CcpCnO7JaM
I completely understand you but you have to understand one thing. This is not a decision taken by the development team, this comes from really really high up, so please don’t pick on the game.
If you’re pissed, imagine how we feel. Think on the situation, we’ve been making overtime with this game practically since May preparing E3, and then almost a demo per month (gamescon, Wii U presentation, shops, eShop, etc…) and at the same time trying to actually finish the game. We had a first delay because it was obvious we couldn’t finish on time but we gave it all to be there on February. What face do you think we had when the week we had to close the game we’re being told it’s not going to be released? I couldn’t believe it.
For practical matters, you’ll have to wait for some months for the game to be released and will most likely serve for more content to be added and do it better. For us, this means we’ve spent 6 months barely seeing our wifes, kids, and friends for nothing because, after all, such a haste wasn’t needed. Believe it, it was a hell to swallow these news.
Even then I’m firm in what I said back in the day, Rayman Legends is an excellent game and will still be, and the team that’s making it doesn’t deserve to have your back turned on them just because some men in ties one day took a wrong choice. This industry is really that shitty
In light of the recent events involving Rayman Legends, combined with a nagging thought I've had, I present this to you.
3rd party publishers are getting away with murder. On-disc DLC, enforcing an anti-used game agenda and, most recently of course, canceling exclusivity and delaying a finished product despite people who may have bought a console for that "exclusive" title.
...
Console makers, on the other hand, have one concern above all others: keeping their customers happy to maintain marketshare. Why should they not be allowed to defend their business against the practices of their licensees when they only work to hurt the industry as a whole? Gamers are already bitter and twisted against the industry at large, and that industry includes the console makers. The only choices console makers should be taken to task for is their own, not someone else's.
So let's use Rayman Legends as an example. Ubisoft obviously has seen Nintendo as a way to grow their revenue stream with casual titles on Wii and the original content and ports it brought to WiiU. Customers who really like Rayman and bought a WiiU because it was advertised as an exclusivehave been cheated twice, once for the lost exclusive and again for the massive delay. Why shouldn't Nintendo be able to step in and defend its consumers in this regard by issuing sanctions against Ubisoft content in the future or, as a major extreme, revoking their license agreements?
Why should they not be allowed to defend their business against the practices of their licensees when they only work to hurt the industry as a whole? Gamers are already bitter and twisted against the industry at large, and that industry includes the console makers. The only choices console makers should be taken to task for is their own, not someone else's.
I don't think anyone here is complaining about a WiiU game going multiplat. You must have gotten your tabs mixed up with GAF. Or took people's GAF reposts straight.I was joking around too with that post. ;)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=512265QuoteIn light of the recent events involving Rayman Legends, combined with a nagging thought I've had, I present this to you.
3rd party publishers are getting away with murder. On-disc DLC, enforcing an anti-used game agenda and, most recently of course, canceling exclusivity and delaying a finished product despite people who may have bought a console for that "exclusive" title.
...
Console makers, on the other hand, have one concern above all others: keeping their customers happy to maintain marketshare. Why should they not be allowed to defend their business against the practices of their licensees when they only work to hurt the industry as a whole? Gamers are already bitter and twisted against the industry at large, and that industry includes the console makers. The only choices console makers should be taken to task for is their own, not someone else's.
So let's use Rayman Legends as an example. Ubisoft obviously has seen Nintendo as a way to grow their revenue stream with casual titles on Wii and the original content and ports it brought to WiiU. Customers who really like Rayman and bought a WiiU because it was advertised as an exclusivehave been cheated twice, once for the lost exclusive and again for the massive delay. Why shouldn't Nintendo be able to step in and defend its consumers in this regard by issuing sanctions against Ubisoft content in the future or, as a major extreme, revoking their license agreements?
So let's use Rayman Legends as an example. Ubisoft obviously has seen Nintendo as a way to grow their revenue stream with casual titles on Wii and the original content and ports it brought to WiiU. Customers who really like Rayman and bought a WiiU because it was advertised as an exclusivehave been cheated twice, once for the lost exclusive and again for the massive delay. Why shouldn't Nintendo be able to step in and defend its consumers in this regard by issuing sanctions against Ubisoft content in the future or, as a major extreme, revoking their license agreements?
All the Kaz gifs are so stupid. Execs aren't cool and they aren't your friends, Jesus Christ.Big picture, first time Sony stumbles (and they will) every one of these gifs will be thrown back at their creators to salt the wounds.
it's like the Move of memes
and it's disturbing that most depict him murdering the competition, literally.
All the Kaz gifs are so stupid. Execs aren't cool and they aren't your friends, Jesus Christ.
All the Kaz gifs are so stupid. Execs aren't cool and they aren't your friends, Jesus Christ.
Yamauchi entered the room abruptly and, without addressing anyone, stood at the end of the table. He became, as one of those present put it, "unglued."
He began with a breathy, high-pitched tirade in a Marlon Brando monotone and quickly became loud and abusive. With a piercing cry, he swung his arm in an arc in front of him, shooting his outstretched index finger toward [Coleco president Arnold] Greenberg.
Yamauchi's diatribe, all in Japanese, completely stunned everyone in the room, with the possible exception of the Arakawas. Howard Lincoln says, "It scared the hell out of me."
When Greenberg turned to Arakawa for help, he was met with a cold stare. By the time Yamauchi wound down, no one in the room said a word.
The translator finally began to speak. "Mr. Yamauchi is very upset," the man said
one of my students is a 73 year old man who started studying english from scratch when he was 64
stop being lazy
personally, i think learning to speak english is a lot more difficult than learning to speak japanese. the reading/writing is the hard bit, but when it comes down to the actual spoken language, english is big fat mutt language full of holes, inconsistent rules, and even when you find some solid rules, the reasoning behind them is completely esoteric. japanese is actually a very structured, consistent language. there's no weird shit like gendered nouns or confusingly applied articles, and it only has two irregular verbs. probably the only confusing thing about it is the way counters work, and that's pretty easily learned in a week or three.
personally, i think learning to speak english is a lot more difficult than learning to speak japanese.
All the Kaz gifs are so stupid. Execs aren't cool and they aren't your friends, Jesus Christ.
ZombiU bundle is coming Feb 17 for $390: http://nintendoeverything.com/112590/zombiu-wii-u-bundle-confirmed-for-north-america/
Also known as the "haha fuck you hampster you can't return shit because your account is tied to the hardware" bundle
Not even a week before a better deal comes along :gloomy
personally, i think learning to speak english is a lot more difficult than learning to speak japanese. the reading/writing is the hard bit, but when it comes down to the actual spoken language, english is big fat mutt language full of holes, inconsistent rules, and even when you find some solid rules, the reasoning behind them is completely esoteric. japanese is actually a very structured, consistent language. there's no weird shit like gendered nouns or confusingly applied articles, and it only has two irregular verbs. probably the only confusing thing about it is the way counters work, and that's pretty easily learned in a week or three.
I rather like the Kaz GIFs... is there a thread with more? I've been sharing em with my bud. We're loling.
Sonic Racing Transformers:
PS3: 1280x720
360: 1152x544
Wii U: 1024x576
LAWL, Wii U IS NEXT GEN!!!!
Sonic Racing Transformers:
PS3: 1280x720
360: 1152x544
Wii U: 1024x576
LAWL, Wii U IS NEXT GEN!!!!
(http://i.minus.com/ibfkjOWs3Rgx0q.gif)
(http://i.minus.com/i97P4bk7nDuQ9.gif)
this gif.
This thread too,
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=512312
(http://i.minus.com/iyAks4gIEnnCS.gif)
:lol
Not enough. Nintendo should get Japan to push for UN sanctions against France.ZombiU bundle is coming Feb 17 for $390: http://nintendoeverything.com/112590/zombiu-wii-u-bundle-confirmed-for-north-america/
Also known as the "haha fuck you hampster you can't return shit because your account is tied to the hardware" bundle
Not even a week before a better deal comes along :gloomy
a day after UbiBetrayal-gate?
Nintendo should pull this bundle and administer sanctions to Ubisoft for abusing their privilege to make games for the WiiU.
(http://i.minus.com/ibfkjOWs3Rgx0q.gif)
:rofl
Not enough. Nintendo should get Japan to push for UN sanctions against France.ZombiU bundle is coming Feb 17 for $390: http://nintendoeverything.com/112590/zombiu-wii-u-bundle-confirmed-for-north-america/
Also known as the "haha fuck you hampster you can't return shit because your account is tied to the hardware" bundle
Not even a week before a better deal comes along :gloomy
a day after UbiBetrayal-gate?
Nintendo should pull this bundle and administer sanctions to Ubisoft for abusing their privilege to make games for the WiiU.
Thanks for all your feedback regarding Rayman Legends in all of its forms. We have heard you and we will continue to listen. We understand your frustration and that you want to get your hands on the game.
We are working with the development team to provide you with a new, exclusive demo for the Wii U soon. Stay tuned for more.
Thanks for all your feedback regarding Rayman Legends in all of its forms. We have heard you and we will continue to listen. We understand your frustration and that you want to get your hands on the game.
We are working with the development team to provide you with a new, exclusive demo for the Wii U soon. Stay tuned for more.
https://www.facebook.com/ubisoft/posts/10151284871242293
When they're so masterfully done, they do indeed look creepy...For me the best are the ones that look like they are made by 5 year olds :lol
Did Andrex abandon us again? Curious what he thinks about this.
Did Andrex abandon us again? Curious what he thinks about this.
These are creepy. (http://i.minus.com/iHvgE55gDs4la.gif)
I love the NeoGAF threads claiming that Yves Guillemot is going to TAKE THE FALL when Rayman does poor sales numbers
Tee hee
You all laughed at the crying Nintendo fanboys but Ubi finally cavedQuoteThanks for all your feedback regarding Rayman Legends in all of its forms. We have heard you and we will continue to listen. We understand your frustration and that you want to get your hands on the game.
We are working with the development team to provide you with a new, exclusive demo for the Wii U soon. Stay tuned for more.
https://www.facebook.com/ubisoft/posts/10151284871242293
New demo :rock
Did Andrex abandon us again? Curious what he thinks about this.
Yes,he got hissy again.
Is this really a disaster? How many people outside of "THE INTERNET" even care?Did Andrex abandon us again? Curious what he thinks about this.
Yes,he got hissy again.
What about this time?
He's still lurking, just not posting.
Fucking Andrex kid. Start posting again you loser.
I think long term the Wii U won't be able to keep up with Sony / MS next offerings.Wii HD :hyper
In a perfect world, this is what they should do:
Unveil a Super Wii U at E3 2014 or other big trade show
Super Wii U
Release late 2014 / maybe late 2015
Fully Backwards compatible with Wii U
Specs comparable / superior to next gen Sony / MS systems
Sell for ~$250 with no Gamepad - ~$299 with Gamepad
Launch with Zelda and/or Smash Bros and/or Mario 3d
Profit
At DICE, nobody has been talking about the new Wii U projects they have started, only the Wii U projects that have just been cancelled.
Platform is in serious trouble. (http://"http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=47483897&postcount=1069")
Come on people. It's just after a launch. A launch that bested the 360 and PS3 launches no less.Quote from: Mario;47483897At DICE, nobody has been talking about the new Wii U projects they have started, only the Wii U projects that have just been cancelled.
Platform is in serious trouble. (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=47483897&postcount=1069)
:(
i read on gaf that nintendo can release a $50 usb dongle to inject more graphics into the wii u
Is this really a disaster? How many people outside of "THE INTERNET" even care?Did Andrex abandon us again? Curious what he thinks about this.
Yes,he got hissy again.
What about this time?
He's still lurking, just not posting.
He got annoyed because he can't comment on anything, no matter if its related or not, without certain people rather consistently throwing his words back at him through a Nintendo filter.
Like I said to him in that thread, that's his fault to an extent for playing it up, and that's also just how the Bore rolls. But he felt the level of conversation towards him was pretty much shit these days, so that's probably why he isn't posting.
I don't blame him, to be honest (the only reason people want him around right at this moment is to give him a whipping over the misfortunes of a system he's been pretty down on since buying), and I can respect that he's not asking the Bore to change the way magoose did. Don't like it, leave it. And so, for now at least, he has.
Is this really a disaster? How many people outside of "THE INTERNET" even care?Did Andrex abandon us again? Curious what he thinks about this.
Yes,he got hissy again.
What about this time?
He's still lurking, just not posting.
He got annoyed because he can't comment on anything, no matter if its related or not, without certain people rather consistently throwing his words back at him through a Nintendo filter.
Like I said to him in that thread, that's his fault to an extent for playing it up, and that's also just how the Bore rolls. But he felt the level of conversation towards him was pretty much shit these days, so that's probably why he isn't posting.
I don't blame him, to be honest (the only reason people want him around right at this moment is to give him a whipping over the misfortunes of a system he's been pretty down on since buying), and I can respect that he's not asking the Bore to change the way magoose did. Don't like it, leave it. And so, for now at least, he has.
He'd been getting better lately, actually. Dude was actually beginning to question Nintendo instead of just blindly accepting anything they offered up or said.
i suspect he'll be back. he's probably just taking a break. haven't really asked him about it, though.
Come on people. It's just after a launch. A launch that bested the 360 and PS3 launches no less.Quote from: Mario;47483897At DICE, nobody has been talking about the new Wii U projects they have started, only the Wii U projects that have just been cancelled.
Platform is in serious trouble. (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=47483897&postcount=1069)
:(
Sure, it's not amazing and could be much better, but people are less likely to buy a new system at this time. Plus, as it's a new console, and not an established one, of course software sales are going to be down. People are more likely to purchase a game for a console they have than a new console, afterall.
Contrary to belief here, and across the internet, launches are never blazes of glory, selling dozens of millions of games and units in the first few months.
Nintendo has a plan and has shown part of it. It'll turn around.
On a sidenote, it's ridiculous that developers complain about lack of sales and decide to help cure this by canning games. It's the same with the Vita and 3DS (back when the 3DS was in this exact situation).
We'll see a similar pattern at the end of the year, of that I can guarantee
In light of the recent events involving Andrex, combined with a nagging thought I've had, I present this to you.
Various posters are getting away with murder. Making bad threads, buying WiiU's, posting with a certain agenda and, most recently of course, canceling exclusivity and leaving for other forums despite people who may have signed up here just to see their posts.
Mods, on the other hand, have one concern above all others: keeping the community happy to maintain The Bore's marketshare. Why should they not be allowed to defend their forum against the practices of their posters when they only work to hurt the community as a whole? Posters are already bitter and twisted against the community at large, and that community includes the administrators. The only choices admins and mods should be taken to task for is their own, not someone else's.
So let's use Andrex as an example. He obviously has seen The Bore as a way to grow his internet prescience with the original content and posts he brought to The Bore. Posters who really like Andrex and signed up for The Bore because he was posting here have been cheated twice, once for the lost exclusive and again for him still posting on GAF. Why shouldn't mods be able to step in and defend their community in this regard by issuing sanctions against Andrex-related content in the future or, as a major extreme, revoking his posting abilities?
In light of the recent events involving Andrex, combined with a nagging thought I've had, I present this to you.
Various posters are getting away with murder. Making bad threads, buying WiiU's, posting with a certain agenda and, most recently of course, canceling exclusivity and leaving for other forums despite people who may have signed up here just to see their posts.
Mods, on the other hand, have one concern above all others: keeping the community happy to maintain The Bore's marketshare. Why should they not be allowed to defend their forum against the practices of their posters when they only work to hurt the community as a whole? Posters are already bitter and twisted against the community at large, and that community includes the administrators. The only choices admins and mods should be taken to task for is their own, not someone else's.
So let's use Andrex as an example. He obviously has seen The Bore as a way to grow his internet prescience with the original content and posts he brought to The Bore. Posters who really like Andrex and signed up for The Bore because he was posting here have been cheated twice, once for the lost exclusive and again for him still posting on GAF. Why shouldn't mods be able to step in and defend their community in this regard by issuing sanctions against Andrex-related content in the future or, as a major extreme, revoking his posting abilities?
it was the next gen thread. we were talking about CoD or something and he said "i think cod will lose relevance next gen like gta did this gen" or something like that, and a couple people jumped on him to defend gta, and a couple people jumped on him with unrelated "u just mad gta dint cum 2 nintendo" stuff.
it was pretty stupid stuff.
In light of the recent events involving Andrex, combined with a nagging thought I've had, I present this to you.
Various posters are getting away with murder. Making bad threads, buying WiiU's, posting with a certain agenda and, most recently of course, canceling exclusivity and leaving for other forums despite people who may have signed up here just to see their posts.
Mods, on the other hand, have one concern above all others: keeping the community happy to maintain The Bore's marketshare. Why should they not be allowed to defend their forum against the practices of their posters when they only work to hurt the community as a whole? Posters are already bitter and twisted against the community at large, and that community includes the administrators. The only choices admins and mods should be taken to task for is their own, not someone else's.
So let's use Andrex as an example. He obviously has seen The Bore as a way to grow his internet prescience with the original content and posts he brought to The Bore. Posters who really like Andrex and signed up for The Bore because he was posting here have been cheated twice, once for the lost exclusive and again for him still posting on GAF. Why shouldn't mods be able to step in and defend their community in this regard by issuing sanctions against Andrex-related content in the future or, as a major extreme, revoking his posting abilities?
borestitiution is uncomfortably close to prostitution and probably accurate considering the cock pic ring that is demi's inbox
it was the next gen thread. we were talking about CoD or something and he said "i think cod will lose relevance next gen like gta did this gen" or something like that, and a couple people jumped on him to defend gta, and a couple people jumped on him with unrelated "u just mad gta dint cum 2 nintendo" stuff.
it was pretty stupid stuff.
If youre gonna blame me for andy leaving ill leave too :'(
nah, it's not just you. triumph is probably worse, pound for pound. but whatever. that's triumph, and that's you. nobody should have to censor themselves for the sake of another person's feels at the bore. it goes against the second amendment of the borestitution.
What games?
What games?I know, I just love Nintendo, and it gets hard hearing people shit over the company you love and which makes you so happy. It sounds ridiculous, they just want my money at the end of the day. But they make me so happy and I can feel the passion and love crafted into most of their games. It sounds stupid, weird and dumb but, when feeling depressed and sad, turning on a Nintendo game always lightens my day. maybe I'm just too emotional :(
Jon is an enthusiastic Nintendo fan. He buys all of Nintendo's systems. He buys many, many Nintendo games. But he's gotten himself into a jam that he says has cost him access to more than $400 worth of downloadable games he's purchased from Nintendo over the several years.(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18e1ykbwyay86jpg/xlarge.jpg)
How does one lose access to $400 worth of games?
Unfortunately for Jon, who asked that I not use his last name but who was hoping some coverage might wake Nintendo up about this issue, it doesn't seem to be that hard. It's partially a result of Nintendo's strict policies about downloadable games—policies that differ from other industry leaders such as Apple's, and don't seem set to change any time soon.
For several years, Jon used to download lots of old Virtual Console games to his Wii. He bought a bunch of Wii eShop games, too. Recently, with the enthusiasm any Nintendo fan has for a new Nintendo machine, he bought a Wii U. He set up a Nintendo ID on the system, transferred his Wii games to that Wii U and then discovered that he'd bought a lemon.
"My Wii U console would flash its red power light when I tried to turn it on," he told me in an e-mail. "I let it go for days, and kept trying. It just was not a reliable system."
At that point, what Jon should have done was contacted Nintendo. He didn't. He did something that seemed like a perfectly natural reflex: he took his Wii U back to the store he bought it from and swapped it for a new one. Problem solved? Not at all. He'd just created his new problem.
He took the new Wii U home and discovered he couldn't set up the same Nintendo ID he'd used on the first system. He had to make a new ID. Then, he said, he found out that he couldn't get those $400+ worth of games onto his new Wii U. They were locked to the broken one... the one he didn't have anymore. As far as Nintendo's online infrastructure was concerned, he wasn't the Jon of old. He was new, and he didn't have a right to those games.
Jon was frustrated, because, of course, he did have a right to those games. He'd paid for them. He'd transferred them to a Wii U. So what if his new Network ID didn't have a record of his purchases? He knew that Nintendo did have a record that he'd bought the games. They were registered on a page linked to his official Club Nintendo ID (a different ID that isn't tied to the Wii U). Jon shared that list with me, and you can see it below. Games he paid to download on his Wii—games now lost to him—have red boxes next to them:
The Club Nintendo webpage seemed to show that Jon was a diehard Nintendo fan. He hoped Nintendo's customer service department would agree and help him out. Jon e-mailed them. They said they were "sorry to hear about the issues you've experienced with your first Wii U console" but that " since you traded your Wii U console for another one at a retailer, we will need to speak to you directly to get all of the details and work out the best solution." This couldn't be resolved with a quick e-mail. He picked up his phone.
"I called Nintendo and spent weeks talking to them about the problem," Jon said. "The lady, who helped me, was one of the nicest ladies, and was incredibly sweet to me. She wanted to help me, so I sent in my receipt to prove which systems I did the exchange for. After weeks of her reviewing everything, they gave me $200.00 of credit on the Wii U marketplace."
The problem with the $200 offer from Nintendo wasn't just that it was half of what Jon had spent. It's that the Wii U online shop is a different digital store than the Wii online shop. They use different online wallets. Both can be accessed via a Wii, but only one—the Wii shop—sells the games Jon had already paid for and wanted to have access to again. That $200 of Wii U shop credit couldn't buy any of the $400 worth of games he'd bought.
You'd think that being short $400 worth of games might put Jon off from Nintendo, but remember that bit about him being a Nintendo fan? He can't quite give Nintendo up.
"I still think they are an amazing company, and will still purchase retail copies of their games," he told me. "I will be a little more hesitant about downloading games through the Wii U, but I still play both the Wii U and 3DS."
However what makes me mad is the double standard at play. The PS3 has issues it's first year and companies kept on pushing forward and giving it games. The Wii U while having trouble compared to the Wii but still doing better then most other consoles of the past has some stumbles companies start jumping ship as soon as possible. Just like the 3DS you know there are titles coming that will move hardware as they've always done. How is that acceptable?
This will never be called out either by the gaming media either because they're the same way with their coverage too.
i ain't gonna miss him any more than i miss the other idiot posters with contrarian agendas we've run off. what did he contribute other than an idle opportunity to countertroll of a boring saturday morning?
Ok lets talk about Wii U games again then :miyamoto :shaq
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=47512656&postcount=353
this is so stupid, Nintendo is almost if not planning to not releasing any significant 1st party titles for now so 3rd parties can have their space and grow since they always whine that they can´t compete with 1st party titles, now.....they do jack squat and either delay or cancel said game(s) for months which in the meantime some 1st party titles will be out and their games will be but forgotten.....so, the blame is on you...I believe Nintendo is very capable on getting back on track when they launch all their 1st party games, so 3rd parties, you missed your chance.
I wrote Nintendo a letter about their current situation.
Dear Shigeru Miyamoto, Satoru Iwata and Reggie Fils-Aime,
I can see that you are in trouble and thought I would help you, if you will listen? I have only owned Nintendo consoles since the SNES and feel I have an excellent insight into where your troubles lie.
You're hardware is always excellent, although I WAS expecting an updated Wii U Remote and wireless Nunchuck with Wii U, which I hope you intend to bring to Wii U eventually. Hardware is not the problem.
Hardware is only ever going to be loved if it has a wealth and breadth of software available for it. This is the reason the NES and SNES were so loved, they had ALL the best games from every developer, not just Nintendo, made for it and felt like a DVD player in that respect. Just like a DVD player you had the freedom to play what ever type of content you wanted on it, it was all available to you. This has not been the case for any of your home consoles since the N64.
The reason why Nintendo has struggled since that time is because they have failed to produce consoles that have garnered that level of support. It is that level of support that enriches a platform with value. The less support, across the board, in all genres, the lover the appeal and the lover the perceived value of that console.
This is the problem that Wii U is having, no one is buying it because they simply do not trust Nintendo anymore to garner the highest amount of third party support and no third parties are making games for it because they think no one will buy them. It is Nintendo's full responsibility to change this!
Where Nintendo managed to just barely survive this situation in the past was when they, themselves, supplemented this lack of third party support. Goldeneye on the N64 is a good example of this. "Goldeneye" created the illusion that the N64 had a breadth of game genres when in fact it did not. "Rogue Squadron" was another example of this and so was "ExciteTruck". These "realistic" western style games fill gaping holes in the consoles library and prevent the console from being a complete failure.
Another reason I feel Nintendo had more success with the NES and SNES was that they embraced the west with those consoles more. Nintendo of America had more power in those days because Nintendo of Japan was not as arrogant. I feel that Nintendo of Japan is very insular today and does not understand the gaming needs of the west as much as they think they do. This is why they continually get caught by surprise. Nintendo of America needs to be given more power and responsibility for ensuring all the main western franchises such as "GTA 5" take pride of place on Nintendo consoles and for developing first party games in the same vein as those. I feel that Nintendo is very aggressively controlled from Japan and it needs to expand into the west to a point where at least 50% of it's first party software is made in the west, by western development houses like Retro Studios, Monster Game and the late Factor 5. Further more, do not squander the efforts of these wester development houses on more Japanese centric games like "Donkey Kong" and "Pilot Wings", have them always work on mature western style games to plug the gaps in your consoles game libraries.
I trust that this email will find it's way to Shigeru Miyamoto, Satoru Iwata and Reggie Fils-Aime where it may be able to do some good. Sometimes I feel that Nintendo's stubbornness, while often it's greatest strength, can also be it's undoing.
Faithfully Yours,
John
REPLY:
Hello,
Thank you for taking the time to write to us with your feedback regarding the Nintendo company, and for the many years you have spent gaming with us. I can certainly understand your thoughts on this matter and want you to know how much we appreciate you sending them in. I also want to assure you that your comments will be added to our records for consumer feedback and made available for other departments at the company to use as they see fit.
Sincerely,
Shanna Zak
Nintendo of America, Inc.
lazy Jon
Nintendo fanboys melting down at light speed. That's what they get for irrationally hitching their self worth and identity to a video game console.
This entire thread is a gold mine: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=512515
"I still think they are an amazing company"
I say do it(when games arrive).Make $199 sku with pro and sell gamepad separately.
Originally Posted by Mario:
At DICE, nobody has been talking about the new Wii U projects they have started, only the Wii U projects that have just been cancelled.
Platform is in serious trouble.
Publishers and developers from the US, UK, France, Germany, and Australia mainly.
Pubs and devs never recoiled from PS3 like they seem to be with Wii U (though this is anecdotal). There was always the confidence that the numbers would get there over time with PS3. I'm not sensing that with Wii U.
I had a data point yesterday at lunch with a high budget Wii U game that was hoping to sell "millions" over time. It only managed "tens of thousands".
It's either Batman or AC3.
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm mainly in Nintendo for handhelds and first party titles. 3rd party disappoints me too much these days.Just picked up a Nintendo 64?
It's Scribblenauts, I'm quite certain.
Not high budget, but surely expected to sell a million or more, only sold tens of thousands, and Mario likely had lunch with Jackson. Jackson, being the boss at 5th Cell, would know very well both expectations and actual sales.
The Rayman development team is part of the new Rayman social movement! Change is coming my bore friends. The day Ubisoft caves to our demands is almost upon us!
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There is not much of a chance I will buy scribblenauts, I find the game annoying. I can see how it would be expected to sell well on the WiiU though.
Yeah, it's not hard to see someone thinking it would. First game sold over 2 million, second sold over a million, the iOS game has sold over 2 million, no idea about the PC version. With the addition of Nintendo's characters and co-marketing, they were probably hoping for a pretty big result. But then again, it's not high budget.
Looking at the list of sales, the only other candidates I think could qualify would be AssCrud 2, Blops 2, maybe Epic Mickey 2? Not Ninja Gaiden 3 because it says "tens of thousands" and to use "tenS" would not accurate describe NG3's sales. Also as it was overheard at DICE, there's not a high chance it's a Japanese developer - DICE uses an advanced satellite laser system to pick off any Japanese people who come near the premises.
Probably not the smartest move in this shithole of an industry
CoD3 was a Wii launch title. I think every CoD game has arrived on time for Wii
Cause France/EU ain't America and people have the right to protest.
You know people here don't get fired from Mickey D when they want to join a trade union.
The devs have made it very apparent they don't appreciate all their crunch time being made pointless by delaying the game for 7 months. I see a pattern for those who think they should be reprimanded. I really need to stop reading the internet, I was doing such a good job for a few months.
The devs have made it very apparent they don't appreciate all their crunch time being made pointless by delaying the game for 7 months. I see a pattern for those who think they should be reprimanded. I really need to stop reading the internet, I was doing such a good job for a few months.
Cause France/EU ain't America and people have the right to protest.
You know people here don't get fired from Mickey D when they want to join a trade union.
I don't see why this form of "protesting" must be tolerated by an employer when it doesn't involve working conditions, employment rights, or whistle blowing. This is implicit insubordination and is likely to hurt the public image of Ubi. Loyalty and fidelity* are at the heart of an employment contract.**
*At least in common law countries.
**I'd assume many workers in the industry would be considered independent contractors, thus having fewer rights.
Historically, it is the most strike-happy country in Europe, losing on average 132 days per 1,000 workers due to strikes between 2005 and 2009.
I don't think the multiplatform release is the part of the choice that's pissed off the devs.
"Support Ubisoft Montpellier" and not "boycott Ubisoft".
As for the people saying they should be sacked... can we fire said posters into the sun or put them inside Dorner's burning Cabin?
They are holding up a sign about a work related situation. Chances of them getting axed over this in France: 0%
As for the people saying they should be sacked... can we fire said posters into the sun or put them inside Dorner's burning Cabin?
If you're referring to me, I certainly don't think they should be fired--in fact, such mild act, at least in Canada, would not legally support just-cause dismissal. That being said, Ubi should be free to reprimand its employees.
Valentine's Day Nintendo Direct incoming: http://www.nintendo.com/nintendo-direct
(http://blog.volunteerspot.com/.a/6a010535724f84970b012877775344970c-800wi)
Oh Nintendo, you shouldn't have :-*
Valentine's Day Nintendo Direct incoming: http://www.nintendo.com/nintendo-direct
(http://blog.volunteerspot.com/.a/6a010535724f84970b012877775344970c-800wi)
Oh Nintendo, you shouldn't have :-*
there is literally nothing ot play on this piece of garbagte. it just sits there this fukkin sucksThe wii u saves power through efficiency and through droughts of games. It's not Nintendo's fault that you don't care about the environment as much as it does. :bow :link :mario :stfu :mario :link :bow2
there is literally nothing ot play on this piece of garbagte. it just sits there this fukkin sucks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eH3DmUgokk
The definitive version of Aliens: CM (Wii U version of course) has been delayed indifinitely.
Poor Nintendo, can't catch a break with the 3rd party pubs.
I spit up all over my laptop. :lolthere is literally nothing ot play on this piece of garbagte. it just sits there this fukkin sucks
You bought it well past the point where we all knew the score. Tis birth or faith that wronged you.
there is literally nothing ot play on this piece of garbagte. it just sits there this fukkin sucks
You bought it well past the point where we all knew the score. Tis birth or faith that wronged you.
"Shit game anyways, so no loss" > "Since it's touted as the definitive version, maybe they're fixing it" > "Oh, this development update sounds really promising, I'm *glad* it was delayed" > "Thank you PS360 users for beta testing" > "Sure the game is crap, but something about playing it while you're taking an actual crap makes it worthwhile."
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SEGA says it hasn’t cancelled Aliens: Colonial Marines on Wii U
February 14th, 2013 Posted in News, Posted by Valay, Wii U | No Comments »
SEGA has denied speculation that Aliens: Colonial Marines has been cancelled on Wii U.
A rumor surfaced last night that Aliens had been “postponed indefinitely” on Nintendo’s console. But a SEGA UK representative says this isn’t so:
“It’s not true. We haven’t announced the release date for it yet but that’s it.”
Aliens: Colonial Marines remains on track for a release before the end of March on Wii U.
QuoteSEGA says it hasn’t cancelled Aliens: Colonial Marines on Wii U
February 14th, 2013 Posted in News, Posted by Valay, Wii U | No Comments »
SEGA has denied speculation that Aliens: Colonial Marines has been cancelled on Wii U.
A rumor surfaced last night that Aliens had been “postponed indefinitely” on Nintendo’s console. But a SEGA UK representative says this isn’t so:
“It’s not true. We haven’t announced the release date for it yet but that’s it.”
Aliens: Colonial Marines remains on track for a release before the end of March on Wii U.
Fuck, wish they cancelled it.
Wii U announcement is Luigi DLC for NSMBU. The levels looked new, supposedly altered version of the entire game (?)
and, uh, they'll make a Zelda Miiverse community so people can talk about Zelda games before any come out.
Wii U announcement is Luigi DLC for NSMBU. The levels looked new, supposedly altered version of the entire game (?)
and, uh, they'll make a Zelda Miiverse community so people can talk about Zelda games before any come out.
Wii U announcement is Luigi DLC for NSMBU. The levels looked new, supposedly altered version of the entire game (?)
and, uh, they'll make a Zelda Miiverse community so people can talk about Zelda games before any come out.
That's great! Finally, a place on the Internet where people can talk about Zelda
Magus is back :yuck
DEREK SMART
DEREK SMART
DEREK SMART
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIn1_9YvGds
Man... I don't even want to troll this shit anymore. I'm not into necrophilia.
OK so i'm sitting here reading the GAF thread and i'm baffled that some think Nintendo franchises will save it. The Gamecube had an installment in every big Nintendo franchise come out and be touted as the GCN savoir only for it to still finish last.
I mean I wish Nintendo support the Wii U like they did the Gamecube, the GCN library is severely underrated and awesome.
:deadOK so i'm sitting here reading the GAF thread and i'm baffled that some think Nintendo franchises will save it. The Gamecube had an installment in every big Nintendo franchise come out and be touted as the GCN savoir only for it to still finish last.
I mean I wish Nintendo support the Wii U like they did the Gamecube, the GCN library is severely underrated and awesome.
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That picture is a pretty good representation.Those small tug boats are pretty powerful.
Also everyone with a Wii U is sleeping in their own shit.
BTW Mario and Zelda sucked on GCN, it was all their side franchises that were awesome (and third party exclusives). There are no third party exclusives anymore and Nintendo has killed off all its side franchises.
HMS rational sails again.
probably the best title update yet :lol
You like Mario Sunshine? You enjoyed the Triforce hunt and deleted Jabu Jabu dungeon?
HMS rational sails again.
You like Mario Sunshine? You enjoyed the Triforce hunt and deleted Jabu Jabu dungeon?
Or do you mean that we are gonna get a high budget Metroid and F-Zero, and exclusive Resident Evil on Wii U?
He agrees with you, Visc. If you don't know Lager has a hate-boner for Nintendo, you must be farther along on that whole "miserably dying up your own ass" thing than I'd guessed.
He agrees with you, Visc. If you don't know Lager has a hate-boner for Nintendo, you must be farther along on that whole "miserably dying up your own ass" thing than I'd guessed.
HMS rational sails again.
You enjoyed the Triforce hunt and deleted Jabu Jabu dungeon?
If ninty comes up with some awesome games ill be all aboard again, but considering how things have been going down im not holding my breath.
I think the Year of Luigi is going to change a lot of hearts and minds
OK so i'm sitting here reading the GAF thread and i'm baffled that some think Nintendo franchises will save it. The Gamecube had an installment in every big Nintendo franchise come out and be touted as the GCN savoir only for it to still finish last.
I mean I wish Nintendo support the Wii U like they did the Gamecube, the GCN library is severely underrated and awesome.
NSMB has always done crazy numbers in the past but NSMBU didn't do shit. There's no guarantee that Mario Kart 8 is going to turn things around.
This sale on Bit.Trip.Saga on 3DS is revolutionary! Has a company ever put a digital download game on sale for cheap? And for such a new game too-- it only came out 2 years ago. Surely Iwata and Reggie are geniuses, they really know how to print money! Go Ninty!
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=47774481&postcount=1
Some of these Nintards are starting to activate Poe's Law, which is scary.
Some of these Nintards are starting to activate Poe's Law, which is scary.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of fundamentalism that someone won't mistake for the real thing."
So, without context, ironic expressions will be interpreted literally and literal expressions will be interpreted ironically. Well, this really needed to be named after someone. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
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:'(
- A price drop. I'd like to see at minimum, a $100 price drop to $199 & $249. I don't know how low they can go, but the lower the better.Come on Nintendo, why can't you think of this stuff and get it done already?!?
- Debut a slew of games that show off the attributes of the system.
- A new emphasis on digital distribution and a complete re-working of their account management and developer regulations.
- Focus on non-gaming apps like Skype and Nintendo TVii to appeal to casuals.
- Completely remarket the device as something that can stream all their video needs as well as play games.
---If they want to really get crazy----
- Keep the price the same and completely reboot the system as a Super Wii U. This would be drastic and be akin to releasing Kinnect for Xbox 360.
- Release two new peripherals for the Wii U and make standard from now on in every box - Wii motion plus and a nun-chuck, a headset with IR sensors (similar to the one that comes with Xbox 360) and a new sensor bar for the headtracking.
- Bundle the new headset and sensor bar in with a their flagship game at no extra cost as way of compensation to early adopters.
- Announce new third party support (a lot will be ports) of games that will be out by Christmas to support this.
- This idea is to give the Wii U a new hook. I don't feel as it currently stands that the gamepad alone is enough of a selling feature to draw customers to the Wii U. Perhaps headtracking could be and it's something that could be done relatively cheaply.
Realistic things they can do (because I don't think a $100 price cut is realistic, and they can't magic software that doesn't exist out of the aether)
- Give out devkits to interested indie developers with some sort of track record, drop the 'no bedroom programmers' restrictions, and run some sort of 'next 90 days we'll take no cuts on sales' type promotion, or offer some sort of 'no cut for us until you hit $20,000 revenue' deal or whatever.
Small indies are incredibly agile in getting things done, and anyone who's made previous titles should be able to get a WiiU port up and running very quickly.
Let them set their own price.
This isn't a replacement for the AAA development that isn't ready, but a burst of indie developments will not only do wonders for pushing DD, but its also likely to explore genuine 'can't do anywhere else' mechanics of the controller and iterate through what does and doesnt work a lot faster than nintendos own R&D can, or any publishers would be willing to.
- Get the VC up and running ASAP, and spend some time porting over existing WiiWare titles.
Make some strategic partnerships for some really interesting VC titles or platforms to be added; eg Saturn, Neo-Geo, CPS1/CPS2, Dreamcast, Amiga.
Just announcing these are coming will get some interest.
- Use Club Nintendo as an account system. Let existing Wii owners know registering their WiiU will transfer all of their purchases over.
Set the migration tool up as a webpage in the club nintendo account area, rather than as a 'double sided' app, to avoid the online issues people have been having.
- Make Nintendoland a free download for all current WiiU owners, for the next 90 days (or whatever; make it time limited so people feel theres a timed incentive to purchase, and existing Nintendoland owners don't feel completely screwed as they know they can still trade it in in a few months)
- Figure out whoever your target audience for the WiiU is, and sponsor something that demographics watches somewhere cheap (like a syfy show or whatever).
Or if you really want to piss on the other 'media box' consoles, make a deal with amazon or netflix for time limited free content to all wiiu owners (eg "for the next month all WiiU owners have free netflix / amazon prime video on demand / whatever)
- Tie up one single studio with a 'graphics whore' mentality to literally just make one showpiece game and get a demo out of it. Doesn't matter if the game ends up shit, they just need to have something pretty to definitively put paid to the 'on par with ps360' myth.
Shit, even just hiring some german demo scene folks to make a linger in shadows type experience would help with that.
Nintendo knows they need to differentiate themselves from MS and Sony.
They can't moneyhat developers as effectively, and they don't have the cronyism of journalists willing to go to bat for them.
The harder MS and Sony fight for homogenity beyween their boxes, the more opportunity Nintendo have to grab the interest of people who like the quirky and fantastical in gaming, not the shank a dude in the neck with a shiv in afghanistan crowd.
They need to double down on that.
If they offer a space that welcomes unique experiences, studios will want to go there.
- Figure out whoever your target audience for the WiiU is
Real talk:Exactly, people want Excitebike 64 HD for $10.
1. Make partnerships with smaller studios to deliver HD remasters of some classic Nintendo games. Wind Waker is a start, but they should focus primarily on games that can be turned around within the next 6-9 months or so.
- Examples: F-Zero GX, Excitebike 64, Wave Race...
2. Offer these games for cheap on the eShop. I'm talking $9.99 or less. Offer a free download of these games to early adopters.
3. Include free download codes in new Wii U purchases. This encourages new buyers to go onto the eShop.
4. Completely revamp the marketing into a series of ads that display ONE feature of the Wii U each. One commercial is about Off-screen play in a family. Another is about TVii. Another is about touchscreen games. Etc.
The idea is to boost content on the Wii U as quickly as possible with as few resources as possible.
- Marketing should be over the top ridiculous. Kevin Butler meets Old Spice Guy. "Ladies, you may have a Wii to workout with but your Mii can't see mine if it's not with U. Buy a Wii U, it works with all of your Wii peripherals and comes with a fancy touch screen controller that helps keep track of those fab abs of yours. And your husband can play his games on the controller, while you watch your reality TV shows. Or you can just watch videos of me working out while your husband watches whatever sport he's into. Whichever you prefer." ...being said from an attractive man with no shirt in a sexy voice might help some. What's Clooney up to these days?
Tie up one single studio with a 'graphics whore' mentality to literally just make one showpiece game and get a demo out of it. Doesn't matter if the game ends up shit, they just need to have something pretty to definitively put paid to the 'on par with ps360' myth.:bow2
Shit, even just hiring some german demo scene folks to make a linger in shadows type experience would help with that.
If gaffers ran the world, we'd still be looking for the wheel
Welcome to the new paradigm, bitches.
I'm gonna say 42k. Which, due to the 4 week month and no releases, will seriously be pointed to by some as a sign of "momentum"
:lol and the news of this thing being a bigger bomba than the dreamcast, ps3, and GC all combined will hurt sales
Interesting with the 360. That did launch with the whole 'ill buy it when halo comes out /shrug' thing hanging over it, but i forgot how it wasnt doing so hot for a while
The graph really doesn't take into account what the demand is. Wii and PS2 would have sold more if there were enough units available. I think the x360 was supply constrained in the beginning too, but I might be wrong on that one.
Interesting with the 360. That did launch with the whole 'ill buy it when halo comes out /shrug' thing hanging over it, but i forgot how it wasnt doing so hot for a while
The graph really doesn't take into account what the demand is. Wii and PS2 would have sold more if there were enough units available. I think the x360 was supply constrained in the beginning too, but I might be wrong on that one.
You're right. Initial shipments sold out in NA and Europe - in Europe the initial shipment was 300,000 and then really only trickled in after that, so it was tricky to get initially... It will have had a slower Summer obviously, like any machine
360 actually got a price drop and new bundles at the 10 month mark ($30 on the core, $50 on the premium) -- which would be like Wii U getting a price drop in August
What's going to be interesting for Wii U is if there's any latent demand that can be unlocked with a price drop, or new software... demand may be hard to generate with either. We'll see I guess..
there is zero demand for the console that is the wii u, it's a technological relic anchored around a feature nobody asked for. the hope is that nintendo can hold enough of their IPs to ransom in order to strongarm people into buying a device they neither want nor need.
it will always be a terrible console.
there is zero demand for the console that is the wii u, it's a technological relic anchored around a feature nobody asked for. the hope is that nintendo can hold enough of their IPs to ransom in order to strongarm people into buying a device they neither want nor need.
it will always be a terrible console.
After all it isnt the lack of support for the thing from devs thats the issue. ::)
Can you blame devs? If I were looking at WiiU software sales and saw stuff like CoD and AssCrud selling literally 1% of what they sold on other systems, I'd be pretty fucking gunshy too.
Lack of dev support is a symptom, not the source.
No its not but it isnded the main issue. 0 games were released that month. That is abysmal, anyone seeing that will see warning signs. Not to mention port cancellations, delays etc. On the other hand aswell people dont buy Nintendo consoles for third party games, there werent really many blockbuster must have titles at launch even GC had like 3 iirc. Wii U had NSMB U and Nintnedo Land and of those 2 Nintendo land is seen as the better of the 2. What rubbish. It isnt the hardware that is the problem it is the software and price of the console.
No its not but it isnded the main issue. 0 games were released that month. That is abysmal, anyone seeing that will see warning signs. Not to mention port cancellations, delays etc. On the other hand aswell people dont buy Nintendo consoles for third party games, there werent really many blockbuster must have titles at launch even GC had like 3 iirc. Wii U had NSMB U and Nintnedo Land and of those 2 Nintendo land is seen as the better of the 2. What rubbish. It isnt the hardware that is the problem it is the software and price of the console.
Also the fact that the console is an answer to a question no one askedspoiler (click to show/hide)THERE'S NO FUCKING DEMAND FOR IT, YOU SIMPLETON[close]
Until they figure out a way to effectively market the GamePad, I'd say the hardware is a problem as well. Software is arguably more important, but generally it's useful for the platform to have some sort of unique hook to make it attractive. The GamePad was supposed to be that hook, but either it didn't pan out like they'd hoped, or they've just failed spectacularly on the marketing department.
Really, everything about the weeeeeeoooooooooooooo has been like an AP class in advanced failure, from conception, introduction, marketing, you name it. I think they could have done better by paying hobos to shit in boxes.
38k
start a thread and a pool, I'll put $5 down
100k < Wii < 150k and more closer to 100k
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Reactions are pure gold.(http://i3.minus.com/ibxon1DR9B6odh.png)
Eh... Mario games are quality.
Nintendo's software shits on Sony's from a great height.
Pikmin got a PERFECT score from Gaming-Age (paleoGAF) back in 2001.
Pikmin - it really is fucking garbage as a game.
''Oh, Yay, Another Studio Closure.''
So does Nintendo need a hypothetical mariokart/smash/wildcard trifecta in combination with a pricedrop this holiday season to even get within earshot of the 100bn figure Iwata was leveraging his career on? Pokemon and Animal Crossing might help the 3ds, but I'm not seeing any #gamechangers on the wii u. It'll be interesting to see how wii fit u fares.
One thing I can say is that software pricing is kinda ridiculous, its no surprise their demographic isn't going to be investing in a console with no marguee games that establish an identity for the thing when everything is 60 bucks across the board (god bless sega for pricing sonickart for 40 though, my first purchase).
Its a neat system from the time I've spent with it, methinks they need to tap in to the warchest and do the american thing of subsidizing relevant support.
So does Nintendo need a hypothetical mariokart/smash/wildcard trifecta in combination with a pricedrop this holiday season to even get within earshot of the 100bn figure Iwata was leveraging his career on? Pokemon and Animal Crossing might help the 3ds, but I'm not seeing any #gamechangers on the wii u. It'll be interesting to see how wii fit u fares.
One thing I can say is that software pricing is kinda ridiculous, its no surprise their demographic isn't going to be investing in a console with no marguee games that establish an identity for the thing when everything is 60 bucks across the board (god bless sega for pricing sonickart for 40 though, my first purchase).
Its a neat system from the time I've spent with it, methinks they need to tap in to the warchest and do the american thing of subsidizing relevant support.
Also, I'm standing by my assertion that calling it anything other than Wii 2 was a huge branding mistake. I still hate saying the name whereas I kinda liked "Wii".
So does Nintendo need a hypothetical mariokart/smash/wildcard trifecta in combination with a pricedrop this holiday season to even get within earshot of the 100bn figure Iwata was leveraging his career on? Pokemon and Animal Crossing might help the 3ds, but I'm not seeing any #gamechangers on the wii u. It'll be interesting to see how wii fit u fares.
One thing I can say is that software pricing is kinda ridiculous, its no surprise their demographic isn't going to be investing in a console with no marguee games that establish an identity for the thing when everything is 60 bucks across the board (god bless sega for pricing sonickart for 40 though, my first purchase).
Its a neat system from the time I've spent with it, methinks they need to tap in to the warchest and do the american thing of subsidizing relevant support.
i feel like at this point, IP affiliation with the wii u brand does more harm to the IP than it would do good for the wii u.
NSMB has been reduced from a its status of world destroying sales goliath to k-mart edutainment CD-ROM tree fodder within the space of about two months.
If either the Durango or Orbis launches with a decent configuration at $399, who the fuck is going to spend in the same ballpark for a gimped console with no games on it? A price drop would be almost required at that point, right?
Also, I'm standing by my assertion that calling it anything other than Wii 2 was a huge branding mistake. I still hate saying the name whereas I kinda liked "Wii".
i can live with that, eel.
Who the fuck thought that only having one tablet controller per console was a good idea?R and D Dude: There's another problem--we can only get one tablet working with the console. Even if we could get another working, it would be extremely expensive for consumers.
Isn't EA giving the Dreamcast the cold shoulder one of the major reasons the Dreamcast lost to the PS2? We got the awesome 2K series of sports games out of that, but no Madden was a major issue if I remember. And so is no Fifa, not sure if the Dreamcast had Winning Elever or not, and I loved Virtua Striker but that isn't going to sell a lot.
any bets on next month? i'm gonna say 40k
Seriously Nintendo dropped the ball with their online/market. A cheap Nintendo moba (Nintendo Legends or some shit), a 2D Zelda, maybe get a multiplayer Contra or new Techmo Bowl type game, multiplayer Pac Man etc. Give people an oppurtunity to make impulsive cheap purchases and they'll do it every time.
The wii U not getting Madden is weird. Really weird. Madden is usually spammed out to every systems under the sun. Hell, Madden 12 went to the PSP and PS2 even. So for Madden 14 to be only on the PS3 and Xbox (no iOS, no Wii, no next gen systems for now), its just really weird. EA was already cutting back on their SKUs but now they must be doubling down on that. They obviously expect the industry to further contract (rather than expand) but I'm not sure where they're going to divert their development resources to since they already have a huge presence on iOS.
I'm sure EA Tiburon is busy as hell trying to make their engine work for next gen so that they're not stuck the whole gen with a shit engine and games again. But usually EA would farm out the Wii U/iOS/everything else versions to contract developers, just like they did this whole generation for the Wii/everything else.The wii U not getting Madden is weird. Really weird. Madden is usually spammed out to every systems under the sun. Hell, Madden 12 went to the PSP and PS2 even. So for Madden 14 to be only on the PS3 and Xbox (no iOS, no Wii, no next gen systems for now), its just really weird. EA was already cutting back on their SKUs but now they must be doubling down on that. They obviously expect the industry to further contract (rather than expand) but I'm not sure where they're going to divert their development resources to since they already have a huge presence on iOS.
I think it was rumored that they didn't have enough time to shit out a port this year, but expect future iterations (well maybe not if sales continue like as)
Having the playbook or whatever on the gamepad is actually something that makes sense and would be borderline, you know, useful or whatever.
EA not touching the weeeeeooooooooooooooooo speaks volumes.
Having the playbook or whatever on the gamepad is actually something that makes sense and would be borderline, you know, useful or whatever.
EA not touching the weeeeeooooooooooooooooo speaks volumes.
To be fair people said the same thing about the DS ("you can draw your own plays!") and never amounted to anything. EA is probably looking at the WiiU's weak online player base and wondering what's the point in wasting money (right now). The next Madden will certainly be on the system
The wii U not getting Madden is weird. Really weird. Madden is usually spammed out to every systems under the sun. Hell, Madden 12 went to the PSP and PS2 even. So for Madden 14 to be only on the PS3 and Xbox (no iOS, no Wii, no next gen systems for now), its just really weird. EA was already cutting back on their SKUs but now they must be doubling down on that. They obviously expect the industry to further contract (rather than expand) but I'm not sure where they're going to divert their development resources to since they already have a huge presence on iOS.
I think it was rumored that they didn't have enough time to shit out a port this year, but expect future iterations (well maybe not if sales continue like as)
Seriously Nintendo dropped the ball with their online/market. A cheap Nintendo moba (Nintendo Legends or some shit), a 2D Zelda, maybe get a multiplayer Contra or new Techmo Bowl type game, multiplayer Pac Man etc. Give people an oppurtunity to make impulsive cheap purchases and they'll do it every time.
Rayman Challenge Mode coming to Wii U in April. Online leaderboards, up to five players and an exclusive mode - oh and its free
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This is actually kind of awesome. The right response from Ubi. I'm placated anyway!
What's the point of having Iwata stand there in those presentations like an awkward cardboard cutout?
What's the point of having Iwata stand there in those presentations like an awkward cardboard cutout?
Apparently gamers like pitch-men/corporate executives these days, I don't know.
He's in a suit but he's wearing a Luigi hat :rofl
that gif alienates me more than anything. Nintendo thinks its funny but it's really pedantic and insulting
because it's them trying to feel like they're cool and down to earth when they're not.
Those videos are made for ten year old Japanese children. I'm not sure why people go memetastic over them, nor why people here are so wounded by them.
EDIT: I'll probably catch a ton of shit for this, but I enjoyed the wii line up from launch up till Brawl which was my first real disappointment with the system other than Galaxy not blowing me away like it did others. The only difference was I downright hated Brawl.
Nintendo are releasing the US version of F-Zero on Wii U Virtual Console - bowing to fan pressure over Hertzgate?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=514355
:lol
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=514355
:lol
All that meta discussion, and no one discussing the topic. I thought Evilore was gonna put a stop to all that? :wag
I've already upgraded my computer a couple years ago, perfectly ready for Next Gen multiplats that don't come to Wii U.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=47959794&postcount=5QuoteI've already upgraded my computer a couple years ago, perfectly ready for Next Gen multiplats that don't come to Wii U.
"a couple years ago" :rofl
keep dreaming shithead
Double Dash was awesome, fuck you Numbers Man. Having three brothers to play it with :bow
Many a tears will be shed tonight by butthurt Ninfags after seeing real-time PS4 demos and studios on board......... I hope they stocked up on Luigi-branded handkerchiefs!
Many a tears will be shed tonight by butthurt Ninfags after seeing real-time PS4 demos and studios on board......... I hope they stocked up on Luigi-branded handkerchiefs!
Many a tears will be shed tonight by butthurt Ninfags after seeing real-time PS4 demos and studios on board......... I hope they stocked up on Luigi-branded handkerchiefs!
Many a tears will be shed tonight by butthurt Ninfags after seeing real-time PS4 demos and studios on board......... I hope they stocked up on Luigi-branded handkerchiefs!
It wasn't bad, but in retrospect it was hardly amazing. Lets be honest here, as Oscar said compared to other Nintendo launch games this one is one of the worst. I'd say that Wii Sport was a better launch game, it def played it way more then Luigi.
Many a tears will be shed tonight by butthurt Ninfags after seeing real-time PS4 demos and studios on board......... I hope they stocked up on Luigi-branded handkerchiefs!
How many Nintards are going to get PTSD after the brutal savagery of just pure annihilation and total evisceration that they're going to receive in a few hours?
How many Nintards are going to get PTSD after the brutal savagery of just pure annihilation and total evisceration that they're going to receive in a few hours?
That's funny, cus in my circle of coworkers/other irl people its mostly xbox guys and a smattering of mmo/rts players. I think people are in for a rude surprise to assume that wii u faltering=sony success. On the current trajectory I only see the next xbox having a chance ... but i feel like they could screw it up come to think of it
You were always going to end up with a wiiU
Watch Dog was just confirmed by the devs as coming to the Wii U,
After that show i am gonna get a Wii U after E3.
After that show i am gonna get a Wii U after E3.
it's your money, but I don't get how a vague conference would influence your purchasing decision at all.
Watch Dog was just confirmed by the devs as coming to the Wii U,
Watch Dog was just confirmed by the devs as coming to the Wii U,
as well as Xbox 360, PS3, and PC. No doubt it'll be on Durango too.
it's your money, but I don't get how a vague conference would influence your purchasing decision at all.
it's your money, but I don't get how a vague conference would influence your purchasing decision at all.
Had no rpgs shown. For the WiiU i am looking forward to X and SMT vs FE. I thoguth that they would have shown something decent from SE or Bethesda but they didnt.
believed that or just doing some weird kind of trolling
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Bethesda's next game will be PS4/Durango/PC. Launch day RPGs aren't really a thing.
I prefer Eel's "ninfungi" to "nbandits"
I prefer Eel's "ninfungi" to "nbandits"
For my taste, X certainly looks more interesting than anything shown for PS4 as of now...
I prefer Eel's "ninfungi" to "nbandits"
I'll do my best to put the fun in ninfungi, Borys
Endure just a little bit more radiohead, please. This is the typical Welcum to The Bore, Nintard! Boot Camp you are being put through. Last Nintard - Andrex, you may recognize him from GAF - broke up and ran away crying.
After you get enough punches and blows the tune of this place will change :-* you will see.
I prefer Eel's "ninfungi" to "nbandits"
How are The Bore Wii U owners feeling after the Sony presser? Just curious.
How are The Bore Wii U owners feeling after the Sony presser? Just curious.
I dont have a Wii U, not buyign a system unless it has an rpg on it.
You people still exist?
I played Balloon Fight and Google Maps last week. Neither were particularly fun. I also made a portrait in Tank! Tank! Tank! before discovering that the single player campaign was behind a paywall.
I played Balloon Fight and Google Maps last week. Neither were particularly fun. I also made a portrait in Tank! Tank! Tank! before discovering that the single player campaign was behind a paywall.
What bothered me about balloon fight was the grating sound effects, it made me think of that scene in princess bride where she goes overboard in the waters of the screeching eels 'EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHEEEEEEEEHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE'. Fzero is a better deal for sure, although its my first time playing it and feels like it was probably a tech demo in its heyday.
Little Inferno is surprisingly captivating. It emulates that feeling of unwisely blowing through all your hard earned money on crap you'll never need in real life, therefore being a pretentious statement on capitalism, yet fun still.
I played Balloon Fight and Google Maps last week. Neither were particularly fun. I also made a portrait in Tank! Tank! Tank! before discovering that the single player campaign was behind a paywall.
today I called Nintendo to order a replacement. I had read online that replacement gamepads were around $80. This apparently is incorrect. The amount Nintendo is billing my card is $150+ shipping.:lol
:lol Master Manager Troll :bow2
Wii Mini might be worth buying, kind of like the top loading NES. 10 years from now it might be worth 2-3x what you paid for it if you didn't take it out of the box.
:lol Master Manager Troll :bow2
just Manager
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=516246Quotetoday I called Nintendo to order a replacement. I had read online that replacement gamepads were around $80. This apparently is incorrect. The amount Nintendo is billing my card is $150+ shipping.:lol
no offense to your friend, but clerks like that are pretty frigging annoying
"hi i'd like to buy x"
"are you sure you don't want to buy y instead?"
fucking just ring it up, register biscuit. you're paid near-minimum wage for a reason.
Lager, I worked at GameStop. It's not like a computer store. At all. It's closer to McDonalds than anything.
I managed several GameStops. Guess who happens to be right and who happens to be talking about shit he has no idea about again?
I managed several GameStops. Guess who happens to be right and who happens to be talking about shit he has no idea about again?
I managed several GameStops. Guess who happens to be right and who happens to be talking about shit he has no idea about again?
Oscar owned. :skip
GamesBeat: Is the Wii U from Nintendo even on your radar as far as making games?
Yerli: We did have Crysis 3 running on the Wii U. We were very close to launching it. But there was a lack of business support between Nintendo and EA on that.Since we as a company couldn’t launch on the Wii U ourselves — we don’t have a publishing license — Crysis 3 on Wii U had to die.
Lol Ntards bragging about Crysis 3 running on the WiiU
I'm surprised how badly Nintendo misjudged the market,especially their core market.WiiU pushed that market into stand by "wait and see" mode.Those people are still playing and buying games but the money goes somewhere else.
We should start a pool: the person who is the farthest off has to buy a Steam game for the person who was the closest to predicting the right number
Consoles are still very expensive compared to PS2/Xbox/Gamecube at this point. But yes, Wii U is more expensive and you get less for that money. You don't even get a Wii remote in the $350 box and it's an important part of the system.
Consoles are still very expensive compared to PS2/Xbox/Gamecube at this point. But yes, Wii U is more expensive and you get less for that money. You don't even get a Wii remote in the $350 box and it's an important part of the system.
It's gotta be painful to all those who complained that the wii wasn't getting ports of all the 3rd party games and then seeing the same thing happen to Nintendo's HD console.
The thing is, it's too early for these bad sales to have scared off ports this fast. Something before hand before the WiiU launched had to have triggered devs into saying "Nope, not getting a port, not worth it".
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The thing is, it's too early for these bad sales to have scared off ports this fast. Something before hand before the WiiU launched had to have triggered devs into saying "Nope, not getting a port, not worth it".
Doesn't help that they wanted to (or have to) get $60 out of games that are several years old, either.
Doesn't help that they wanted to (or have to) get $60 out of games that are several years old, either.
The controller's implementation in most of them has been basic at best too, so it's not like there's a worthwhile bonus there either.
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More like FFW to the future and "I didn't buy this"
Doesn't help that they wanted to (or have to) get $60 out of games that are several years old, either.
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More like FFW to the future and "I didn't buy this"
Let's charge full price for a game that's like $20 now
GOOD JON THIS IS A SUPERB IDEA
You mean you wouldn't pay $50 for a WiiU GAME OF THE YEAR* superior version w/exclusive mini games?!
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More like FFW to the future and "I didn't buy this"
Let's charge full price for a game that's like $20 now
GOOD JON THIS IS A SUPERB IDEA
$20? It's hit $5 ($7.50 for GOTY) multiple times in the past several months.
BUT YOU CAN PLAY IT ON YOUR FAPLET NOW!
60 bucks and 2 years late......
BUT YOU CAN PLAY IT ON YOUR FAPLET NOW!
The WiiU is like watching a bum starve to death.
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More like FFW to the future and "I didn't buy this"
Let's charge full price for a game that's like $20 now
GOOD JON THIS IS A SUPERB IDEA
$20? It's hit $5 ($7.50 for GOTY) multiple times in the past several months.
Nintendo is buying Sega Sammy,obviously.
I heard that King Kullen was considering buying them out, inflating the stock price
Lego City Undercover - 5
EdgeQuoteLego City Undercover - 5
Is that normal for Lego games?
Or Animal Crossing. Or F-Zero. Or Fire Emblem.
Lager continues to cruise under the bar no matter how far I lower it.
Or Animal Crossing. Or F-Zero. Or Fire Emblem.
Lager continues to cruise under the bar no matter how far I lower it.
Or Animal Crossing. Or F-Zero. Or Fire Emblem.
Lager continues to cruise under the bar no matter how far I lower it.
quiet momo, i'm trying to do an aesop hereI'll just Aristotle this entire conversation then :shh
Don't count out The Croods: Prehistoric Party!
Don't count out The Croods: Prehistoric Party!
next best game after funky barn
WiiU release schedule:
(http://i.imgur.com/4vTIJbr.png)
:whoo
Don't count out The Croods: Prehistoric Party!
next best game after funky barn
Shut up! You're gonna jinx it!
the only nintendo direct i am seeing is the nintendo wii u directly going into the shitter, haha
WiiU release schedule:
(http://i.imgur.com/4vTIJbr.png)
:whoo
Oh, yes, 3 more passed 100k.
Zombi
SU
Sonic
JD4
the only nintendo direct i am seeing is the nintendo wii u directly going into the shitter, haha:dead
The digital version of Lego City Undercover requires you to have an external hard drive for your Wii U, Nintendo has cautioned.
The publisher has warned those wishing to download the title from the Wii U eShop.
"An external hard drive is required to download this software," a notice on the game's official site reads. "Visit support.nintendo.com for information about storage options."
Reports suggest the open-world adventure weighs in at a hefty 22GB - we're checking with Nintendo now to make sure.
Basic 8GB Wii U consoles have just 3GB free space after installing system software and creating a user profile, Nintendo revealed last year.
Premium 32GB Wii U consoles get 25GB of usable space - suggesting that you should just about be able to squeeze Lego City Undercover on. That's bearing in mind you've got no other software or apps downloaded.
Nintendo doesn't make a distinction between the two models, simply stating that Wii U owners in general will need an external hard drive.
WiiU release schedule:
(http://i.imgur.com/4vTIJbr.png)
:whoo
Third parties are extremely tight lipped due to draconian NDAs. I've seen some shit being shown off behind the scenes that will blow the PS4 away :wtf2
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-03-15-wii-u-external-hard-drive-required-to-download-lego-city-undercover-nintendo-saysQuoteThe digital version of Lego City Undercover requires you to have an external hard drive for your Wii U, Nintendo has cautioned.
The publisher has warned those wishing to download the title from the Wii U eShop.
"An external hard drive is required to download this software," a notice on the game's official site reads. "Visit support.nintendo.com for information about storage options."
Reports suggest the open-world adventure weighs in at a hefty 22GB - we're checking with Nintendo now to make sure.
Basic 8GB Wii U consoles have just 3GB free space after installing system software and creating a user profile, Nintendo revealed last year.
Premium 32GB Wii U consoles get 25GB of usable space - suggesting that you should just about be able to squeeze Lego City Undercover on. That's bearing in mind you've got no other software or apps downloaded.
Nintendo doesn't make a distinction between the two models, simply stating that Wii U owners in general will need an external hard drive.
:wtf2
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-03-15-wii-u-external-hard-drive-required-to-download-lego-city-undercover-nintendo-saysQuoteThe digital version of Lego City Undercover requires you to have an external hard drive for your Wii U, Nintendo has cautioned.
The publisher has warned those wishing to download the title from the Wii U eShop.
"An external hard drive is required to download this software," a notice on the game's official site reads. "Visit support.nintendo.com for information about storage options."
Reports suggest the open-world adventure weighs in at a hefty 22GB - we're checking with Nintendo now to make sure.
Basic 8GB Wii U consoles have just 3GB free space after installing system software and creating a user profile, Nintendo revealed last year.
Premium 32GB Wii U consoles get 25GB of usable space - suggesting that you should just about be able to squeeze Lego City Undercover on. That's bearing in mind you've got no other software or apps downloaded.
Nintendo doesn't make a distinction between the two models, simply stating that Wii U owners in general will need an external hard drive.
:wtf2
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-03-15-wii-u-external-hard-drive-required-to-download-lego-city-undercover-nintendo-says:whatQuoteThe digital version of Lego City Undercover requires you to have an external hard drive for your Wii U, Nintendo has cautioned.
The publisher has warned those wishing to download the title from the Wii U eShop.
"An external hard drive is required to download this software," a notice on the game's official site reads. "Visit support.nintendo.com for information about storage options."
Reports suggest the open-world adventure weighs in at a hefty 22GB - we're checking with Nintendo now to make sure.
Basic 8GB Wii U consoles have just 3GB free space after installing system software and creating a user profile, Nintendo revealed last year.
Premium 32GB Wii U consoles get 25GB of usable space - suggesting that you should just about be able to squeeze Lego City Undercover on. That's bearing in mind you've got no other software or apps downloaded.
Nintendo doesn't make a distinction between the two models, simply stating that Wii U owners in general will need an external hard drive.
:wtf2
Holliday remembered that video call. "We were developing something in secret, like we usually do working with Nintendo," he said."There was a conference call very similar to this one where it was kind of announced to us that we would stop working on what we were currently doing and start—they even added a little drum roll—to work on Luigi's Mansion."
He clarified that, yes, Kensuke Tanabe, the long-time Nintendo producer who also worked with the Japanese company's in-house Texas-based studio on their Metroid and Donkey Kong games, did some rapid hand-tapping on the table. "Tanabe-san is a funny guy, and he was trying to get me excited for this bad news," Holliday joked.
But Luigi comes with rules. It turns out that Nintendo characters often do. One rule for Luigi for the new game? Luigi wasn't allowed to jump. In Super Mario Bros., that's fine. In a Luigi's Mansion? It was not permitted.
why did I buy this stupid fucking system
How much did they really save on costs by packing that meager 32GB drive? I mean we're in the high-capacity disks/BR era for god's sake.
yeP, flash storage. Superior definitive storage :munch
At least you can use standard usb hard drives for the wii u. So does 360, I think, and PS3 lets you use any laptop hard drive, but this is progressive and frankly brave for Nintendo. It took years for the Wii to get SD card storage. Wasn't it Reggie who made the fridge comment?
Well if no Wii U, it's a no buy from me on anything. Not going to support devs not willing to support Wii U.
Now that we have a couple new months of data I figured I'd ask again: if you were given Iwata's job today, for the next 12 months, what would you do about the WiiU. Let us assume you can't sell Nintendo or begin production on a new console.Use WiiU as a giant training exercise to get my devs up to par in creating a modern OS and network infrastructure + getting used to HD workflows.
Why would anyone buy GTA5 for Wii U? People who are interested in the series likely already own a 360/PS3.Read the whole thing.
Although a port of GTAV might make things a little more tolerable for game-starved wii-u owners, it isn't isn't going to sell one extra wii u. Gamers who want GTAV already have a 360, PS4, or a decent PC.
Nintendo is going to have to pay third parties to make exclusives games for the WII U that it just doesn't develop, as it seems to have already started doing (see: Lego City or Bayonetta 2).
The question is,should they even bother now?If the answer to the first question is no, they should pull the plug on the system right now. They should bother if they want GameCube sales instead of Saturn sales.
If the answer is yes,what type of third party games should they pay for?
The question is,should they even bother now?If the answer to the first question is no, they should pull the plug on the system right now. They should bother if they want GameCube sales instead of Saturn sales.
If the answer is yes,what type of third party games should they pay for?
Anything and everything that isn't a platformer, party game, or mini-game.
and don't make the same idiot mistakes.
As I've said a few times, the most fundamental mistake they made was to not satisfactorily answer the questions "Who is this for?", "Is that a large enough audience to sustain us?", and "Can we effectively sell to that audience?"
Sometimes a product with good answers to those three doesn't succeed, but a product without good answers almost certainly will fail. I get the feeling even Nintendo knew they had weak answers here. Everyone else seems to have seen it.
The end of the next fiscal year, if we trust his words.
Yeah, but he's at least working with a stacked deck on the 3DS side of things.
More referring to the next fiscal year including new mainline Pokemon releases, a new Mario and Luigi (last one sold like 5 million+ WW), DKCR 3DS, plus Monster Hunter 4, Shin Megami Tensei 4, Ace Attorney 5, and others holding up things on the third party end. Even if the markets outside Japan behave as they have, it's still going to be a much stronger year financially for Nintendo than the last.
Not good enough, I think, but he hedged his bets well.
Did they remove the awful boss battles?
On second thought, Wii U owners should suffer more so leave them in.
I heard a rumour that there might be a Wii U game released this week, surely that's not true?
North America
03/19 Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate
Need for Speed: Most Wanted U
The Croods: Prehistoric Party!
The Walking Dead: Survival Instinct
Japan
03/20 Need for Speed: Most Wanted U
Europe
03/22 Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate
Need for Speed: Most Wanted - A Criterion ...
The Walking Dead: Survival Instinct
Ultimate Deus Ex: Human Revolution experience : take advantage of a multitude of improvements, features and additional content that bring this already critically-acclaimed adventure towhole new levels
Tap into the Wii U?s GamePad true potential: Adam Jensen?s newest augmentation, the Neural Hub, offers an immersive and empowering experience, right at the tips of your fingers
Absolute fusion of action and role-play: A unique combination of action-packed close-quarter takedowns and intense shooting, offering a vast array of augmentations and upgrades for the many weapons at your disposal
Multi-solution structure: Choose how to accomplish each mission using combat, hacking, stealth or social mode to create a customized experience to suit any gaming style
Diverse customization: Engage in combat and challenges utilizing deep, specialized character augmentations and weapon upgrades
I just wanted a sequel.
I'm sure you don't want a sequel from the rescue squad doing the WiiU port, though. Wait til Thiefy's done, then you'll get your proper sequel.
In other news, this may be a frontrunner for potentially lowest selling Wii U port ever.
From PR:
Need for Speed Most Wanted U is available now in North America for $59.99 and will be in stores March 21 in Europe for €69.99.
That's the big problem, and one I didn't take into account back when I thought Wii U would get a healthy amount of ports before the new systems come out. I didn't consider that any ports they did get would come out at $50-60 instead of the $20 the games are selling for on other systems/PC.
srsly is this the fastest a console from the Big Three has ever cratered
srsly is this the fastest a console from the Big Three has ever cratered
-Each of the game's three boss fights have had their map layouts reworked to provide players with alternative potential strategies. New hacking challenges are available to players who focus on hacking, and stealth options are available to those who focus on stealth. You can now kill the bosses without firing a single bullet
-On Wii U the energy system has been made more forgiving by allowing for two energy cells to recharge by default on all but the hardest difficulty. This should mean players use Jensen's augmentation powers more freely.--So now, on Wii U, you can use the GamePad to see enemy health, armour type (heavy, medium or light) and loot. The idea is this will let players plan their moves better; by checking loot you'll be able to identify a target who is carrying a pocket secretary, which may contain the code for a locked door you're after, or decide not to go into a room because it's packed with heavies with loads of hit points.
-You can also use the GamePad to navigate the menus, to display the map, the augmentation system, the inventory and all the rest. "All the systems are now linked to the Neural Hub," Dugas continues. "All your maps, your inventory, your augmentation menu, your mission log, are now systems in Adam Jensen.
-There are swipe controls, too. One new feature, called grenade throwback, allows Jensen to equip a proximity detector that alerts him to a nearby grenade. So, if an enemy chucks a grenade at you, the GamePad will vibrate, and you can swipe the touch-screen to pick it up and lob it back.
-You can also use the touch-screen for the hacking mini-game, using your fingers to progress, and to punch in codes. Meanwhile, for weapons that have a scope, such as the sniper rifle, you can use your telly to centre on your target, then enter a precision mode using the touch-screen, which displays the cross-hair.
-Included in this "ultimate package" is all of the DLC, but it has been retrofitted to slot seamlessly into the main game. The Missing Link DLC is now included in the main story rather than separated out, and the pre-order bonus mission to rescue Tong's son is popped in, too.
-There's Half-Life 2-style director's commentary, what amounts to some eight hours of chat from Eidos Montreal developers. Icons dotted around the world can activate this voice over, and you're free to continue playing as you listen.
On Wii U the energy system has been made more forgiving by allowing for two energy cells to recharge by default on all but the hardest difficulty. This should mean players use Jensen's augmentation powers more freely.
Eidos Montreal was keen to improve the graphics for the Wii U version, too. The visuals seen in The Missing Link DLC had more of an impact, Dugas says, than those in the main game, because the developers were more comfortable with their tools when they came to create them. And so, The Missing Link benefited from work done to the game's shaders, which had the knock on effect of making environmental reflections on textures were better. And the lighting system was revamped to be based on an interpretation of a formula used by real world architects during the building planning stage to simulate how light will bounce around an environment. All the visual effects seen in The Missing Link were applied to the main game for the Director's Cut.
"It's much sharper," Dugas says. "There are more nuances between the light and dark places."
You might also notice a new fog system that, according to Pedneault, "makes the atmosphere really stand out". Shadows that were choppy have been smoothed, Dugas says. "It makes a big difference."
Pedneault insists these improvements wouldn't be possible on Xbox 360 simply because there's not enough disc space available. Neither, Dugas says, would the anti-aliasing, which wasn't present in the other console versions but is in the Wii U version.
"It's more powerful on the Wii U," Dugas says. "Even some of the graphics that were improved already on the 360 for The Missing Link, we were able to go a little bit farther with the Wii U, just because of the hardware. In terms of the shadows, which are smoothed out, it's much different than the Xbox version."
It's not even funny at this point. This is as dead as a console gets.
Don't worry, when Nintendo goes 3rd party they'll port Bayo 2 to PS4!
I am glad Windows Phone was able to at least let your people eat.
:(
Nintendo UK has pledged to meet with retailers worried about the performance of its Wii U games console.
Growing dissatisfaction towards the new hardware has seen retailers Amazon, Asda, ShopTo and GameStop slash £50 off its price. But even that has failed to stimulate sales.
“We have taken the decision to reduce the price of the Basic Wii U to test the market and assess the impact of a price change for a short period of time,” ShopTo purchasing director James Rowson told MCV. “This has resulted in a smaller than desired increase in sales at this stage.”
Meanwhile, some chains have told MCV that it will be ‘looking at’ the amount of shelf space it gives to Nintendo platforms.
“Currently Nintendo has not lost space, but their mix of sales is down,” says a top buyer at one of the UK’s biggest games retailers. “We are looking to reduce slightly but must admit their silence on strategy is deafening at the moment. They’ve got to do something otherwise it is GameCube all over again.”
Nintendo has told MCV that it has a plan to stimulate Wii U’s performance in the UK. And that it will meet all its retail partners in the coming weeks to reveal its strategy.
“We’ll be speaking to our retailers directly over the next few weeks to take them through our plans for building Wii U momentum over the course of 2013,” said a Nintendo spokesperson. “We have a strong and broad line-up of software launching this year and we look forward to updating – and exciting – our partners over the coming weeks.”
Wii U has suffered from a poor release schedule since debut. This week marks the first new software from Nintendo for the platform since January. Releases include LEGO City and Monster Hunter 3: Ultimate.
We’ll be speaking to our retailers directly over the next few weeks to take them through our plans for building Wii U momentum over the course of 2013
Nah, we're already past VB. this is shaping up to be more like Saturn.
199 Premium would be an ok deal, esp if they made it play blu rays and dvd's.Yeah, 199 for the
Nah, we're already past VB. this is shaping up to be more like Saturn.
I'm assuming it won't be as much of an import darling, if at all.
Yes, I meant only in WW sales. Otherwise, this is, I dunno, not VB bad but not PC-Engine/Saturn good, either. 3DO-esque maybe?
What I'm fearing the most with this is Wii U taking off and becoming another Wii/DS/3DS. It's annoying how Nintendo keep making comebacks. I thought 3DS would get what was coming to it with its 3D gimmick and look at it now, on the way of beating the DS.I kind of doubt that in the states at least.
The problem with the Wii U was that there was a four month period with NO new games out.
That's fixed now with Monster Hunter, Lego CITY, and some ports. But at least there's something new to play on the system now.
Most likely will pick up Monster Hunter in a few hours.
Yea but a lack of games is at the top of the list. If Nintendo launched with multiple first party titles over the first three months we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Yea but a lack of games is at the top of the list. If Nintendo launched with multiple first party titles over the first three months we wouldn't be having this conversation.
That's one thing that really gets me. How did Nintendo think they were going to be able to sell this thing with no huge titles at launch and then absolutely nothing at all for MONTHS?
Yea but a lack of games is at the top of the list. If Nintendo launched with multiple first party titles over the first three months we wouldn't be having this conversation.
That's one thing that really gets me. How did Nintendo think they were going to be able to sell this thing with no huge titles at launch and then absolutely nothing at all for MONTHS?
actually, i don't know if they had any illusions about it after the tepid reception to it at e3. but they really didn't have any choice. the games weren't ready, and delaying the system launch to be anywhere near proper next-gen systems would have been disastrous as well.
I don't even know what Nintendo does anymore. I saw several reviews saying that Luigi's Mansion 2 is the best 3DS game yet, and they didn't even make it.
actually, i don't know if they had any illusions about it after the tepid reception to it at e3. but they really didn't have any choice. the games weren't ready, and delaying the system launch to be anywhere near proper next-gen systems would have been disastrous as well.
yea but is it that hard to throw out some HD port of a Wii game for quick bux?
:deadactually, i don't know if they had any illusions about it after the tepid reception to it at e3. but they really didn't have any choice. the games weren't ready, and delaying the system launch to be anywhere near proper next-gen systems would have been disastrous as well.
yea but is it that hard to throw out some HD port of a Wii game for quick bux?
Nintendo if I remember correctly was trying to get help from 3rd party devs because they cannot into HD. :japancry
A friend and I got hella drunk and were wading through the Miiverse, mostly for horrible games like Jeopardy and Walking Dead. It was so sad that it bordered on hysterical.
They're probably having trouble with the town.I really don't think their management is idiotic. More that everything that's ever gone wrong for Nintendo is coming to a head. Their decisions with the N64, a culture of conservation of resources and conservatism. The game market changing around them. Heck the burden of having a reputation as being so successful in terms of banking money - I wonder if part of their problem is that the shareholders (who don't give a shit what they make or how they do it) expect Nintendo to always make a great return on thrifty expenditures.
I really don't think their management is idiotic
Rewind a second.
Why would you be getting hella drunk with someone and going on the Wii U? That's like the most boring shit you could do.
It's almost like Nintendo didn't care about consumer shift to HD electronics,game development shift to shaders,hd development...
HD development,you say?We'll care about that when the time comes.
"We did it with Wii,we can do it again...Weeeooooo"
Rewind a second.
Why would you be getting hella drunk with someone and going on the Wii U? That's like the most boring shit you could do.
We had to drink in order to deal with the janky-ass shit that is CO-OP MONSTER HUNTER
Rewind a second.
Why would you be getting hella drunk with someone and going on the Wii U? That's like the most boring shit you could do.
We had to drink in order to deal with the janky-ass shit that is CO-OP MONSTER HUNTER
As much as I love the series it's the same damned game as it was in 2002.
They are never going to evolve it off the ps2 base - ever.
"Bu bu bu bu guess which monster from the ps2 games is back in Mh4?!? Woooooooo" :/
So the developers held focus groups and searched out some of the chief complaints about the PS3, PC and Xbox 360 versions of the game. Once they determined what some of the most common, significant negative reactions were to that game they set about coming up with fixes.
"There was a lot of frustration with boss fights," he said. "We had a lot of criticism that the boss battles didn't match the multipath flow of the rest of the game.
"Now we have a way for each boss to be defeated without a single bullet. You still have to work at it, but it gives the players options."
The game was lengthened by incorporating both Deus Ex's DLC mission The Missing Link and the pre-order bonus mission.
"It not just that you can choose Human Revolution or The Missing Link," he said. "It's part of the game as a chapter. It flows smoothly into the story line. It's integrated more into the storyline."
The content hits about two-thirds of the way into the game and forces players to respec Adam using all of the Praxis earned so far. That tweaking of the character's augmentations and abilities doesn't revert when the now integrated Missing Link content ends; players simply continue with the game with Adam as he is.
The game also includes the ability to replay through the game after you have completed it without having to reset Adam. That way, Pedneault said, a player can eventually unlock all of the augmentations and make a "perfect" Adam.
They're probably having trouble with the town.I really don't think their management is idiotic. More that everything that's ever gone wrong for Nintendo is coming to a head. Their decisions with the N64, a culture of conservation of resources and conservatism. The game market changing around them. Heck the burden of having a reputation as being so successful in terms of banking money - I wonder if part of their problem is that the shareholders (who don't give a shit what they make or how they do it) expect Nintendo to always make a great return on thrifty expenditures.
They never operated like, say, Sony. So suddenly behaving the way a gaming public demands (sell premium technology at a big loss just to get it in people's hands, etc), would seem like reckless insanity and unjustifiable to people Iwata has to explain himself to. Especially when companies like Sony themselves are not doing so great with that strategy.
Iwata: "We have decided it is prudent to invest in inroads to the 'core' audience that once associated Nintendo with leading support for software publishers. To this end, our new console employs very advanced technology required to achieve parity in multiplatform software support from contemporary publishers."
Shareholders: "We have recently sold our stock in Sony because such behavior alarms us! Such companies are performing poorly. How can you justify this wasteful product that will post great losses on every unit sold? I have seen many people recently on streets using mobile phones to manipulate computer software. Why are you not developing mobile phone computer software?"
Iwata: "..." LASERS WARM UP
Miyamoto: "Now you done fucked up."
(http://i5.minus.com/iO9uyKK0sQIzo.jpg)Terrible, but necessary to distinguish the Wii U from the Wii.
:drudge I actually played a Wii U game last night :drudge
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate
Patrick Klepek recommended having some kind of FAQ with you when playing so I had my laptop by me. I agree, most Nintards who will play this game for the very first time (or haven't played it since Tri on the Wii) will find the learning curve pretty steep. I don't think this game is meant to be the first MH game to ever play so keep that in mind. The game seems solid enough but I haven't played any other version so I don't know whether it is better or worse than other installments. I own the 3DS version as well but I have not done any save transferring yet so I'll see how that goes.
What is Fez?Artsy indie platformer. Seems pretty fun and I'm really happy we finally got a PC port.
that said, at this point i'm starting to get suspicious. last time he made a big controversial fuss, it was just before Fez 360 released. he then went silent for almost a year, and only started talking (and kicking up controversy) again recently. coincidentally, Fez PC is releasing soon.
In which dimension do you live, guys?Quote from: CascadeI really don't think their management is idiotic. More that everything that's ever gone wrong for Nintendo is coming to a head. Their decisions with the N64, a culture of conservation of resources and conservatism. The game market changing around them. Heck the burden of having a reputation as being so successful in terms of banking money - I wonder if part of their problem is that the shareholders (who don't give a shit what they make or how they do it) expect Nintendo to always make a great return on thrifty expenditures.
They never operated like, say, Sony. So suddenly behaving the way a gaming public demands (sell premium technology at a big loss just to get it in people's hands, etc), would seem like reckless insanity and unjustifiable to people Iwata has to explain himself to. Especially when companies like Sony themselves are not doing so great with that strategy.
Iwata: "We have decided it is prudent to invest in inroads to the 'core' audience that once associated Nintendo with leading support for software publishers. To this end, our new console employs very advanced technology required to achieve parity in multiplatform software support from contemporary publishers."
Shareholders: "We have recently sold our stock in Sony because such behavior alarms us! Such companies are performing poorly. How can you justify this wasteful product that will post great losses on every unit sold? I have seen many people recently on streets using mobile phones to manipulate computer software. Why are you not developing mobile phone computer software?"
Iwata: "..." LASERS WARM UP
Miyamoto: "Now you done fucked up."
I point you in the direction of them buying a shit ton of land and starting to build new offices there with the sole purpose of next gen dev....
.... They are still putting the buildings up.
So they're looking at 2-3 years lag on getting anything out on Wii U.
Also - Iwata could have went to investors and explained that the reason that the Wii "tail" was so weak was because the low technology spend at the start meant that they could not attract 3rd parties , could not get ports and were unable to keep pace with the competition so this time a more aggressive spend initially would help prepare them for the future.
It didn't have to cost an arm and a leg either to get them to a point where they could have slotted in as the "least powerful next gen machine" - basically hitting that lowest common denominator point meaning that having the Wii U as the base dev machine might have been an option. But no - they went with xbox361 and now it's exploded in their face.
Their management has tried to pull the Wii trick twice - they got away with it with the 3ds (at a huge cost) but the WiiU isn't going to be so lucky
Gaf repost? Not sure.
Gaf repost? Not sure.
In which dimension do you live, guys?Quote from: CascadeI really don't think their management is idiotic. More that everything that's ever gone wrong for Nintendo is coming to a head. Their decisions with the N64, a culture of conservation of resources and conservatism. The game market changing around them. Heck the burden of having a reputation as being so successful in terms of banking money - I wonder if part of their problem is that the shareholders (who don't give a shit what they make or how they do it) expect Nintendo to always make a great return on thrifty expenditures.
They never operated like, say, Sony. So suddenly behaving the way a gaming public demands (sell premium technology at a big loss just to get it in people's hands, etc), would seem like reckless insanity and unjustifiable to people Iwata has to explain himself to. Especially when companies like Sony themselves are not doing so great with that strategy.
Iwata: "We have decided it is prudent to invest in inroads to the 'core' audience that once associated Nintendo with leading support for software publishers. To this end, our new console employs very advanced technology required to achieve parity in multiplatform software support from contemporary publishers."
Shareholders: "We have recently sold our stock in Sony because such behavior alarms us! Such companies are performing poorly. How can you justify this wasteful product that will post great losses on every unit sold? I have seen many people recently on streets using mobile phones to manipulate computer software. Why are you not developing mobile phone computer software?"
Iwata: "..." LASERS WARM UP
Miyamoto: "Now you done fucked up."
I point you in the direction of them buying a shit ton of land and starting to build new offices there with the sole purpose of next gen dev....
.... They are still putting the buildings up.
So they're looking at 2-3 years lag on getting anything out on Wii U.
Also - Iwata could have went to investors and explained that the reason that the Wii "tail" was so weak was because the low technology spend at the start meant that they could not attract 3rd parties , could not get ports and were unable to keep pace with the competition so this time a more aggressive spend initially would help prepare them for the future.
It didn't have to cost an arm and a leg either to get them to a point where they could have slotted in as the "least powerful next gen machine" - basically hitting that lowest common denominator point meaning that having the Wii U as the base dev machine might have been an option. But no - they went with xbox361 and now it's exploded in their face.
Their management has tried to pull the Wii trick twice - they got away with it with the 3ds (at a huge cost) but the WiiU isn't going to be so lucky
Nintendo stopped to push the hardware when doing so was meaningless from a playability point of view.
I mean, just NAME a game on Xbox 360 or PS3 that, except for the graphical advantage, wouldn't be possible on the Wii.
The DC/PS2/GC/Xbox generation set a level of performance enough to allow every kind of imaginable game to run on them. Shadow of the Colossus was impossible on a Nintendo 64, it's concept simply couldn't be achieved with Nintendo 64 hardware, but neither PS3 or Xbox360 has shown anything that couldn't be achievable on a Wii conceptually speaking.
Now on this upcoming generation of games (WiiU/Durango/PS4) we will see a smaller step than the one we saw on the PS2/GC/Xbox era to the PS3/360 era, and WiiU (which is a 2012 era hardware in terms of technology) will be closer to PS4/Durango that the Wii ever was to the PS3/360. It seems more and more evident that Nintendo has chosen the intelligent path.
Technology is not a gameplay limiter anymore, now what limits playability is the interface, and this is were Nintendo has been focusing this two last generation. The WiiU pad with it's integrated screen has more possibilities from a gameplay pow than the 8GB of RAM the PS4/Durango will have.
GAF repost of forever.
Also the best games on the Wii (xenoblade, sin and punishment 2, Mario Galaxy 1/2, Geometry Wars Galaxies) are all possible on any other platform - outside Wii Sports very few games of any note were rendered impossible on other platforms.
This "smaller step" thing is going to come crashing down on Nthings heads in such an horrific way. God help them when they realise the gap between next gen and WiiU is Infact much more pronounced than last gen to wii.
And if they don't think tech is a limiting factor in gameplay? Then they have no fucking clue what they are talking about and their opinion is invalid
X360/ps3 games not possible on the wii outside of graphical changes - I love the idea that a more capable CPU, faster and more expansive ram, larger storage mediums and more complete online systems - not forgetting stronger gpus themselves can -only- add graphical items only. And if that's the case - what does the wiiU offer over the wii then other than graphics? The pad alone?? Then he'll... Welcome to FuckedCompanyVille ... Population: Nintendo
Except no one will ever make a game with the scope of Xenoblade
I think the problem is that devs focus on using the power to make make pretty games rather than more complex games.
Nintendo ain't exactly the only resident of FuckedVille by any means.
except of course on Nintendo platfiorms right - where there's a special magic that makes it happen!
there were a ton of more complex games this gen than last gen.... wasn't there?Ton? More like very few. I cant really think of any really complex games that pushes the cpus to their boundaries just purely on complexity other than Civilization games.
Ton? More like very few. I cant really think of any really complex games that pushes the cpus to their boundaries just purely on complexity other than Civilization games.
It isnt Nintendo only, Kickstarter does it too
and because publishers want tried and true games
as an example - almost all sports games are more complex than their previous gen cousins, you'll see differences in The Show, Fifa, PBS, etc between this and last gen. AI complexity is WAY up for a start.
There's a lot going on that people brush off as "just graphical details"
well, the point was that these apparent complex games that will never get made are being made on WiiU (X for instance - because blah blah blah next gen bankrupts teams blah blah WiiU dev somehow is imune blah blah). The idea that no one is going to make complex games on next gen machines as well is, frankly, bollocks. Not arguing that there's a huge risk element to that sort of project, but someone -somewhere- will do it.
Whether a JAPANESE firm will take a punt? It's less likely but -hey- i wouldn't bet against it -never- happening for the whole of next gen.
i think you'll see this different at the start of next gen - there'll be tried and tested games, but i think a lot of companies have figured out that new IPs are best thrown out at the start of a machines life cycle.
Yeah BF3 is one of the more cpu intensive games on the market it seems according to anandtech.
No BF4?Not seeing this as a bad thing; EA destroys everything they touch. Q4 will be a busy period on Wii U with Watch Dogs, AC4, Mario Kart, Zelda, etc. This game would get a far better chance in a director's cut version in Q2 2014 anyway.
What a disaster.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBmg_CNsQcc
Oh my god why would Nintendo make that kind of video
It's like "Good news everyone! We suck less now"
Patrick Bach: The biggest problem we have right now is we don't want to back down from what we see as our low spec machines. We right now don't have support for the Wii U in the Frostbite engine. The reason for that is it takes development time. What should we focus on to create the best possible Battlefield experience? We are now focused on PC and the current-gen platforms, and then there might be other platforms in the future that we can't talk about...
Patrick Bach: We could probably make a Wii U game in theory. But to make the most out of the Wii U, that's a different game because of the different peripherals. We want to utilise all the power of each console.
Are you saying it's not about the power of the Wii U itself, rather, it's about the controller?
Patrick Bach: It's everything. We could potentially make a Battlefield port for the Vita. But what would that game be? Is it something we could scale down from what you saw in the gameplay video, or would it have to be a complete redesign of the whole game?
It's about, where do you put your focus? And the Wii U is not a part of our focus right now.
Nintendo fans:
BF4 sucks anyway
COD :bow2
Never cared about shooters anyway?Nintendo fans:
BF4 sucks anyway
COD :bow2
What happens when MW4 doesn't come to Wii U? ???
Players will be able to send and receive comments in-game.
Players will be able to see 'Yeahs' in-game.
They can follow users, and see who users are following in-game.
Users will be able to launch games from Miiverse Posts
Launch buttons on Miiverse posts can contain program arguments, so it will be possible to boot directly to a certain level or menu in a game
Can work with online datastore for additional functionality
Mizuki posited the potential application of level editing and sharing via Miiverse;
envisions a game where users bring the game to life (sounds very LBP)
User Sub-Communities (like Mario Kart 7's) are coming to Miiverse
Can be used to organise and hold tournaments
First game to use them is Wii Fit U
Nintendo is canvassing developers for anything else they'd like to see in the API
There will be Maddens and CoDs on WiiU, come on. But that's about it
Frostbite 3 has been in the works since 2011 - roundabouts the time DICE polished off Battlefield 3, which senior development director Carl Almgren describes as "the perfect test bed for Frostbite 2". Frostbite has become EA's most-adopted engine software, with over 10 game teams making use of the tech, and DICE has designed the follow-up to reflect their needs and suggestions.
The engine is apparently much easier to work with, thanks to a redesigned interface which allows for easy, top-level adjustments of or additions to playable code - hence the buzzphrase, "What You See Is What You Play". Designers are also able to make changes to console and PC versions of a game simultaneously, which could ensure more consistency between platforms.
Palpable benefits of Frostbite 3 include a dramatically higher level of texture detail, more complicated lighting and shadowing, and more in the way of environment deformation. The engine has also allowed DICE to overhaul Battlefield's animation systems, drawing on those of FIFA, NHL and the Fight Night series.
Won't they be using Frostbite 2 for 360/PS3 ports though? There will be a 360 version of Madden next year, I see no reason why there wouldn't be a WiiU version using the same engine.
They'll make special versions for Wii U don't worry!!!!!!!!
Loud Microsoft developer party is loud, but Suda51 is here and that makes everything better.
I figured I'd ask straight-out, so during the Q&A with Rein, I did. "Will UE4 run on the Wii U?"
"Hahaha no." Rein said, with expert comedic timing. The room erupted with laughter. As the laughs died down, Rein continued: "I mean, sorry, it's not really a correct answer. We're not… we have Unreal Engine 3 for the Wii U. Right? And Unreal Engine 3 is powering all kinds of amazing games, still lots of games are being made with Unreal Engine 3. We announced today about a new Unreal Engine 3 license. Unreal Engine 3 doesn't disappear because of Unreal Engine 4. But our goal for Unreal Engine 4 console-wise is next-gen consoles. That's really what our energies are focused on. If you want to make a Wii U game, we have Unreal Engine 3, and it's powering some of the best games on the Wii U already.
"Nothing controversial, guys," he jokingly chided.
Quote from: http://kotaku.com/the-wii-u-wont-be-getting-unreal-engine-4-462919060?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Facebook&utm_source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=SocialflowI figured I'd ask straight-out, so during the Q&A with Rein, I did. "Will UE4 run on the Wii U?"
"Hahaha no." Rein said, with expert comedic timing. The room erupted with laughter. As the laughs died down, Rein continued: "I mean, sorry, it's not really a correct answer. We're not… we have Unreal Engine 3 for the Wii U. Right? And Unreal Engine 3 is powering all kinds of amazing games, still lots of games are being made with Unreal Engine 3. We announced today about a new Unreal Engine 3 license. Unreal Engine 3 doesn't disappear because of Unreal Engine 4. But our goal for Unreal Engine 4 console-wise is next-gen consoles. That's really what our energies are focused on. If you want to make a Wii U game, we have Unreal Engine 3, and it's powering some of the best games on the Wii U already.
"Nothing controversial, guys," he jokingly chided.
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=51955386&postcount=294
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=51955386&postcount=294
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That thread started off kinda slow, but now that the Ntards have worked up the courage to enter the fray, it's starting to heat up!
Does the next Mario or Zelda run on Unreal Engine 4?
Oh wait.
Mark Rein is a cock and the manbabies that hang off his nuts aren't worth my time.
I'm waiting for another iteration of my favourite childhood franchises, you manbabies.
This reminds me of when all the third parties were dropping support for Dreamcast en masse
The only difference is, Dreamcast had good games so you could feel kind of annoyed about it
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I already played that game for the N64. Enough with the rehashes already, Nintendo.
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I already played that game for the N64. Enough with the rehashes already, Nintendo.
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I already played that game for the N64. Enough with the rehashes already, Nintendo.
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Professionalism. Game developers don't have it.
QuoteProfessionalism. Game developers don't have it.
QuoteProfessionalism. Game developers don't have it.
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I don't own a Wii U, but there's no doubt that it's been the most entertaining console of the last generation!
I wish I could dig up timetokill's post of the prevailing attitude of Western developers towards Nintendo. A small slice of it: when he said that Zelda: Ocarina of Time was the best game of all time, a perfectly legitimate opinion, he was mocked.
Why would you even ask that question? Is Kotaku distinguished mentally-challenged?
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You can tell the Nintards are disappointed by this news, which baffles me, as it indicates they held a hope that UE4 would run on current gen hardware like WiiU.
It is unmodified.
I hate doing this, but do you have a link about this? I'm pretty good at Google-Fu and all I found was a quote from last year saying it would be scalable to mobiles, which certainly doesn't mean it would run unmodified.
why we aren't talking about the new wario game?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swr-qg8G2Hs
edit: actualy i take back what i said,the rest of the game looks more boring than standard warioware :(
Well, I mean, it *is* unprofessional, and in a different way from wearing a silly hat/holding bananas, but there's no point getting upset about it. It's not like this is a new turn for Rein or the games industry in general. The most socially inept people on the planet create a huge industry, this is what you get. I think the real reason they're freaking out is that Rein speaking this frankly makes it pretty clear he feels he has absolutely nothing to lose ever from pissing off Nintendo, which has scary ramifications for Nintards.
When the next gen market crashes due to high dev costs I'm sure Epic will be begging Nintendo to adopt UE5.
I guess what I'm getting at is this. UE4 is meant for hardware far more powerful than the WiiU. Probably, they could modify/scale it down to run on the WiiU, but the tech gap would mean games meant for the main targeted spec wouldn't port easily or at all, so the only real benefit is having an engine to license that works well on the tech in question. If there were no engine available for that purpose, depending on the size of the audience, it might be of some benefit to create a custom version (as they did with UE3 and mobiles), or it might not (I can't see them doing a custom version of UE3 for Vita, for example, even though it doesn't run UE3 stock terribly well, because the audience isn't there to support it). I think in the WiiU's case, it certainly wouldn't be worth it to make a custom version of UE for the platform. Luckily, Epic has an engine well-suited to the specs of the WiiU. It's well-documented, very familiar to developers, and relatively inexpensive.Did anyone manage to read this without their eyes glazing over?
I mean, I think Rein kind of answered the WiiU's situation in his reply, even if he did it with a certain level of contempt. Epic has a solution for WiiU - it's UE3.5. Why would they spend any additional effort trying to shoehorn UE4 onto current gen hardware when they have a perfectly good engine available that requires no fussing around?
During the presentation the day before, another journalist asked if Unreal Engine 4 would work on Nintendo's Wii U -- a console that straddles the line between next-gen and the current one in terms of horsepower. "Hahahaha, no," he responded, which sent a wave of laughter through the room of journalists.
But that's not technically true, he admitted the next day, walking back his gaffe. "You heard the stupid gaffe yesterday about the Wii U," he said. "If someone wants to take Unreal Engine 4 and ship a game on Wii U, they can! If they wanna ship an Unreal Engine 4 game on Xbox 360, they could make it happen." While that game might not look as pretty as it would on a "true" next-gen console, the new engine is scalable to a variety of platforms, including mobile.
I think I'm just going to stick to online ordering now, because I'm tired of being ridiculed for supporting Nintendo. I even went back to Target and told the manager that this guy was very rude, but it seems like no one gave a ****.
I am in favour of all purchases of games being met with shame and disdain at the register. Adults buying vidya should be treated like adults buying action figures or superhero comics. There should be no dignity in it whatsoever.
Murder them and bathe in their blood. Then have a shower.
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I am in favour of all purchases of games being met with shame and disdain at the register. Adults buying vidya should be treated like adults buying action figures or superhero comics. There should be no dignity in it whatsoever.
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A few weeks ago I went to Gamestop (huge mistake) to pick up Lego City Undercover. The two idiots behind the counter (both wearing Gears of War t-shirts, ugh) start snickering about the game and one of them says "Even my 5 year old nephew is too old for this game". I just ignore them, figuring I won't be back anyway, so screw them.
Basing my opinion of how generally good they are at things beyond their job description is asshole-ish but pretty well-founded in reality. I don't want to hear the McDonalds guy's unsolicited opinion on what I should have for lunch, and I certainly don't want to hear the Gamestop sperglord's unsolicited opinion on what fucking vidya I should be playing.
Shut up, ring up the purchase, have angry sex with your bodypillow later while you curse my name. That's your present lot in life, Gamestop biscuit.
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Wahh those mean ol' gamestop employees questioning my purchases, making suggestions, and asking if I want an extended warranty! How dare they place a human being that I must socially interact with between me and my video games! ::)
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You interact with them like a normal human being? Ok, that might be difficult for some gamers, but maybe they can just practice in front of a mirror or something.Wahh those mean ol' gamestop employees questioning my purchases, making suggestions, and asking if I want an extended warranty! How dare they place a human being that I must socially interact with between me and my video games! ::)
Missing the point entirely, how many times have you gotten, proselytized at when buying a game or console, or fell victim to the video game store review of insert item is shit?
You interact with them like a normal human being? Ok, that might be difficult for some gamers, but maybe they can just practice in front of a mirror or something.Wahh those mean ol' gamestop employees questioning my purchases, making suggestions, and asking if I want an extended warranty! How dare they place a human being that I must socially interact with between me and my video games! ::)
Missing the point entirely, how many times have you gotten, proselytized at when buying a game or console, or fell victim to the video game store review of insert item is shit?
I can't imagine what it must be like to be a person that harbors a bitter IRL resentment against Gamestop employees for engaging them in conversation or letting out a laugh or two.
The media create thread is getting increasingly painful to read, some of the most ardent ninthings are questioning their faith. The fanbase is in disarray.
I sympathize with the Nintards. If I buy a game, I want to get it done with as little bullshit as possible. I don't really need some failure-at-life trying to tell me that what I'm buying sucks.
Of course this is a moot point since I just order off of Amazon anyway. Fuck Gamestop.
I'm just surprised cause in my history of buying stuff nobody ever laughed in my face or said "seriously? that thing" and I've bought some questionable stuff over the years. I seriously don't know if I buy that story, but I don't care enough to call bullshit either.
"You heard the stupid gaffe yesterday about the Wii U," he said. "If someone wants to take Unreal Engine 4 and ship a game on Wii U, they can! If they wanna ship an Unreal Engine 4 game on Xbox 360, they could make it happen." While that game might not look as pretty as it would on a "true" next-gen console, the new engine is scalable to a variety of platforms, including mobile.
Yeah, I've never had any of these issues with either GS or any other retailer here or back home, and I've played some pretty embarrassing crap over the years. Probably because I'm 6.3, don't wear MLP shirts, is able to control my drool and breathing in public, and can beat the shit out of their asses. *flex*
I didn't realize people had such strong feelings about gamestop employees. Don't be ashamed about what you enjoy.
I've never experienced the "shameful" eye contact and "derisive" laughter that involves buying Pokemon and Underage Uguu Quest. Probably because I don't buy or play such games. It seems to me most GS employees are normal people trying to strike up a conversation or show some interest in what you're buying.
While that game might not look as pretty as it would on a "true" next-gen console...
I think people who try to talk people out of crappy game purchases have their heart in the right place, but one person's trash is another person's treasure, so it can backfire badly.
Man Mark Rein needs to stop backpedaling and go for the kill on those twitter losersIt was a stupid thing to say. Not because it upsets Nintendo or the fanboys, or because it wasn't true (it is). It was stupid because it casts a bad light on the UE3 games already being made for the WiiU. Additionally, it makes it even more unlikely that some developer will be crazy enough to try to scale down UE4 to the WiiU. Hence Mark Rein backpedaling to save face.
I was thinking the same thing but deus ex human revolution is tempting me.
Why not play it on your all mighty PC that you're sticking to?
By the time Bayonetta 2 is released I should be able to get a used Wii U for like $150.I remember when I got a GameCube with Wind Waker and Metroid Prime for $119 CDN (back when it wasn't at parity with the US dollar).
What the he'll is unity?
Maybe he was just going "WTF" at a game with 50 cent in it? Imo unless someone is saying "wow you're a X for buying this game" or "wow this game looks like it's for children/manbabies/creepy pedos", you might just be misinterpreting them.
And....this:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=52375494&postcount=3197
Pedneault said the team is not currently planning to institute any changes made for the Director's Cut into the Xbox 360, PS3, or PC versions of the game.
Pedneault was cagey about details and wouldn't get into specifics, but said that the Wii U hardware allowed the team to feature a new lighting system, improved fog, improved shadows, and antialiasing.
“Right now, this is the best-looking Deus Ex,” Pedneault said. “It's even sharper than the PC version.” While the game does look noticeably nicer than it did on 360 and PS3, I couldn't compare it to a high-end PC, and when I pressed Pendeault to be specific about performance differences, he would only say that the team has worked on adjusting the game's engine, and that the Wii U hardware “helped” with that task.
PC, PS3, 360 versions of Deus Ex won't get the reworked boss fights:
http://www.penny-arcade.com/report/article/forget-boss-fights-deus-ex-on-wii-u-has-graphic-improvements-new-game-playQuotePedneault said the team is not currently planning to institute any changes made for the Director's Cut into the Xbox 360, PS3, or PC versions of the game.
Apparently it's the best looking version too:QuotePedneault was cagey about details and wouldn't get into specifics, but said that the Wii U hardware allowed the team to feature a new lighting system, improved fog, improved shadows, and antialiasing.
“Right now, this is the best-looking Deus Ex,” Pedneault said. “It's even sharper than the PC version.” While the game does look noticeably nicer than it did on 360 and PS3, I couldn't compare it to a high-end PC, and when I pressed Pendeault to be specific about performance differences, he would only say that the team has worked on adjusting the game's engine, and that the Wii U hardware “helped” with that task.
If these claims are indeed true and the differences are substantial, might as well pick it up... At bomba price.
PC, PS3, 360 versions of Deus Ex won't get the reworked boss fights:
http://www.penny-arcade.com/report/article/forget-boss-fights-deus-ex-on-wii-u-has-graphic-improvements-new-game-playQuotePedneault said the team is not currently planning to institute any changes made for the Director's Cut into the Xbox 360, PS3, or PC versions of the game.
Apparently it's the best looking version too:QuotePedneault was cagey about details and wouldn't get into specifics, but said that the Wii U hardware allowed the team to feature a new lighting system, improved fog, improved shadows, and antialiasing.
“Right now, this is the best-looking Deus Ex,” Pedneault said. “It's even sharper than the PC version.” While the game does look noticeably nicer than it did on 360 and PS3, I couldn't compare it to a high-end PC, and when I pressed Pendeault to be specific about performance differences, he would only say that the team has worked on adjusting the game's engine, and that the Wii U hardware “helped” with that task.
Obviously we're mad jelly of their superior versions of Deus Ex HR and Aliens: Colonial Marines.
Obviously we're mad jelly of their superior versions of Deus Ex HR and Aliens: Colonial Marines.
Aliens: Colonial Marines got cancelled i think.
Obviously we're mad jelly of their superior versions of Deus Ex HR and Aliens: Colonial Marines.
Aliens: Colonial Marines got cancelled i think.
About Deus Ex: Human Revolution Director's Cut
Praised for its in-game art and cinema-quality storyline, Deus Ex: Human Revolution has garnered critical acclaim from the media and consumers alike since its original release in August 2011. In Deus Ex: Human Revolution , the year is 2027– a time of great innovation in neuroprosthetics, but also a time of chaos, conspiracy, and social divide. Adam Jensen, a man cybernetically augmented against his own choice, finds himself in the middle of a mysterious, global plot to which he holds the key. By offering players vastly different ways to play, Deus Ex: Human Revolution challenges the foundation of gaming and provides an immersive experience where every choice has a lasting consequence.
Coming in 2014, the Director’s Cut features include visual improvements, overhauled boss fights, reinforced combat mechanics and much more making it the ultimate Human Revolution experience.
Total Game Immersion
• You ARE Adam Jensen. The GamePad is Jensen's Neural Hub, one of his implanted augmentations and possibly his most powerful tool.
• The 'in-game' menus are now toolkits; they feel like part of the game flow and one of Adam Jensen’s augmentations.
• Tongs’s Rescue mission and the entire Missing Link chapter have been integrated seamlessly into the narrative flow of the Director’s Cut.
• Original pre-order and other bonus weapons are now at Jensen’s disposal.
Original Game Mechanics utilizing the GamePad
• Hacking is now at his best on the GamePad. Use the speed and precision of your fingers to hack on the GamePad while the world remains visible on your primary screen.
• The 'sniper scope' feature allows any weapon with a scope to use both the GamePad and primary screen for a two-step, precision sniping.
• The Toolkits are now all easily displayed and accessible on the GamePad.
• The Radar is now featured on the touch screen and is a hybrid of the original radar and the 2D Map. Opening the 2D Map Toolkit allows players to draw hints, paths and notes that will remain on the radar.
• The Quick Inventory is now displayed on the GamePad touch screen, leaving the primary screen clear.
• Looting shows detailed descriptions about the items and doesn't require players to access extra menus to see the content.
New Features
• Grenade Throw-Back: Grenades near Jensen appear on the GamePad, the player can then swipe the grenade icon to throw the grenade back.
• New Augmentation 'Tactical Pattern-Recognition System': Display Jensen's view through the GamePad touch screen. Moving the GamePad around will move Jensen's view in the same way, using the gyroscope. The NPC closest to Jensen's center point of view (reticle) will have an extra information panel appearing over his head, giving precious information like the items carried, total health, armor type and state (unconscious, dead, normal). Jensen can still move and shoot while the T.P-R.S is active.
• Infologs: Information packages that can contain detailed screenshots, voice recordings, drawing and typed notes all together. Infologs can be toggled as a physical beacon in-game to be played automatically when standing on it. Infologs can be shared through the Miiverse to your friends, which let them view your content in-game, without breaking the immersion.
• New Game +: Lengthen the game with the New Game Plus; keeping Jensen's augmentations on replay.
• GamePad Mode: Ability to play on the GamePad (No TV needed).
Fan Features
• Director's commentaries: For the hardcore Deus Ex fans, approximately 8 hours of director’s commentary that reveals secrets and background info on the creation and production of Deus Ex: Human Revolution – Director’s Cut.
• Strategy Guide: A strategy guide is available for the complete game including both the Missing Link and Tong’s Rescue mission. The strategy guide is implemented in-game and can be accessed through the Neural Hub at any time.
• Achievements system: Original game achievements, The Missing Link achievements and new achievements are available!
• A 'Making Of' Video: The “Making Of” video of Deus Ex: Human Revolution, approximately 45min.
• Left-Handed control mapping: For a total of 4 control layout variations
• Languages: English, French, Italian, German and Spanish are available in both voice and subtitles. Choose to play the game with audio in one language but keep the subtitles on another.
New Boss Fights
• Boss fights have been entirely redesigned: New map layout and new gameplay mechanics that support the game's main pillars - hacking, stealth, combat. Also feature AI, damage & health tweaks for the best boss fights possible.
• It’s now possible to defeat bosses without the need to fire a single bullet.
Technical & Other Improvements
• Rebalanced energy system: Able to use more augmentations with more energy cell recharging. Makes the game more enjoyable and accessible on lower difficulty levels.
• Improved visuals: With a better lighting system, fog and smoother shadows; all visual improvements from The Missing Link have been applied through the whole game. And with anti-aliasing, this is the best looking Deus Ex available.
• AI tweaked for consistency
I don't see the word "exclusive", so good chance we'll see it on other systems.
Pedneault said the team is not currently planning to institute any changes made for the Director's Cut into the Xbox 360, PS3, or PC versions of the game.
It isnt that which is the issue for me. It is the fact that if this game doesnt do well on the wii U, it will be an excuse for Eidos/SquareEnix to say "hey people never really cared about this shit we put in here in the first place so we dont put i tin the next games". I hope I am wrong though.
I don't see the word "exclusive", so good chance we'll see it on other systems.
http://www.penny-arcade.com/report/article/forget-boss-fights-deus-ex-on-wii-u-has-graphic-improvements-new-game-playQuotePedneault said the team is not currently planning to institute any changes made for the Director's Cut into the Xbox 360, PS3, or PC versions of the game.
That seems to rule out a patch, not a rerelease
can we put a little blue "U" icon next to the usernames of the wii u owners on this form? i feel like they should be forced to carry a mark of shame
can we put a little blue "U" icon next to the usernames of the wii u owners on this form? i feel like they should be forced to carry a mark of shameIsn't owning a Wii U punishment enough?
can we put a little blue "U" icon next to the usernames of the wii u owners on this form? i feel like they should be forced to carry a mark of shame
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU0cGNHazS4
This game needs to hurry up
can we put a little blue "U" icon next to the usernames of the wii u owners on this form? i feel like they should be forced to carry a mark of shame
"Toad (a recurring Mario franchise character) does make some appearances. Maybe I'm not supposed to say that. (laughs) It's going to be very fun when Toad appears."
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=535425
Please understand.
Quote"Toad (a recurring Mario franchise character) does make some appearances. Maybe I'm not supposed to say that. (laughs) It's going to be very fun when Toad appears."
Ha ha! Yes it will be fun! Very fun!
:lolQuote"Toad (a recurring Mario franchise character) does make some appearances. Maybe I'm not supposed to say that. (laughs) It's going to be very fun when Toad appears."
Ha ha! Yes it will be fun! Very fun!
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This E3 has the potential to be the most epic ever.
MS--online required,deal with it
Sony--indie indie,core core,look at all those juicy explosions...buy Vita,plz
Nintendo--give us a chance,weeooooo....plz
Not much optimism...
I'm sure Nintendo will bust out a new Mario, Mario Kart, and Zelda but it will be completely overshadowed by the Durango/PS4. Nintards will play up how good Mario Galaxy 3 looks to deaf ears.
Phoenix down - revives the dead
GET IT?
? Didnt Mario games sell more than Pheonix Wright games last gen?
Not much optimism...
There is some overly optimistic in that thread individuals though.
Insert one game is all I need.
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True that but i dunno. How many kids have those things to themselves? They must be fairly rich to have those?
I googled that and cant find anything. Got a link? Im not doubting you or anything but those numbers need like a link lol.
True that but i dunno. How many kids have those things to themselves? They must be fairly rich to have those?
I googled that and cant find anything. Got a link? Im not doubting you or anything but those numbers need like a link lol.
The Wii U saved me from having to buy a tablet so it has that going for it.
I'm posting this from my Wii U :'(
The Wii U saved me from having to buy a tablet so it has that going for it
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=537498
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Saved from the horror of watching Nintendo go third party.QuoteThe Wii U saved me from having to buy a tablet so it has that going for it
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Hey guys, rendering team lead from Epic here.
Fully dynamic lighting and precomputed lighting are just two tools in our UE4 toolbox. We have games being made like Fortnite that are using fully dynamic lighting, no lighting build times, and the game has full flexibility to change what it desires at runtime. In the case of Fortnite, this is used to great effect with building and harvesting of resources. We don't yet have a solution for dynamic GI in the fully dynamic lighting path, this is something we hope to address in the future.
On the other hand, using precomputed lighting where you don't need dynamicness frees up a lot of processing power. The infiltrator demo that we released at GDC leverages this heavily. In short: we would have had to scale down Infiltrator massively without precomputing some of the lighting. There are over 1000 lights in some of the scenes, and about half of those cast shadows. Dynamic shadows have a huge cost on graphics hardware, but precomputed shadows are very cheap. Our general purpose reflection method (Reflection Environment) also relies on pre-captured probes. By having the general purpose reflection method be cost efficient, we were able to spend the extra GPU time on Screen Space Reflections, which provides extra detail where it is available (due to screenspace limitations).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bLOi3mo9NE (watch in HD)
Now there are some workflow costs to precomputed lighting (creating lightmap UVs, build time), and this is something we hope to improve significantly in the future.
Precomputed lighting is also really useful for scaling down, to low end PC, 60fps, mobile, etc.
In summary: UE4 supports multiple tiers of lighting options, and games can use what suits them best. Fully dynamic lighting provides maximum interactivity, editor workflow and game design flexibility, precomputed lighting provides maximum quality and performance.
Let me know if you have any specific questions and I'll do my best to answer them.
Nintendo of America has confirmed that Ubisoft’s Splinter Cell Blacklist will be released on Wii U in August, alongside several other forthcoming thirdparty titles.
Blacklist will be released for Nintendo’s home console on August 20th in the US, August 22nd in EMEA territories and August 23rd in the UK.
Disney’s Planes is a Nintendo platform exclusive, and will tie into the forthcoming film. It will arrive on Wii, Wii U, 3DS and DS in August, with Disney Infinity also confirmed for release in the same month for Wii U, Wii and 3DS.
Alongside Blacklist, Nintendo confirmed that Ubisoft will also release a new demo for Rayman Legends, intended to showcase its online challenge mode in April.
Other Wii U releases include Warner’s Injustice: Gods Among Us (April),
LEGO Batman 2: DC Super Heroes (Spring),
Resident Evil: Revelations (May 21st),
Fast & Furious: Showdown (May)
Sniper Elite V2 (May).
They join Deus Ex: Human Revolution, which was confirmed for Wii U last month.
Nintendo also confirmed that DuckTales Remastered, Dungeons & Dragons: Chronicles of Mystara, Mutant Mudds Deluxe, Spin the Bottle and the delightfully-titled Scram Kitty and his Buddy on Rails will be released on Wii U through eShop.
Ubi is playing smart here.
AMD also provides the graphics horsepower behind the Wii U, a fact Gustafson was quick to point out when asked about his feelings on the PlayStation 4 and the fact that it’s the only true next-generation console that’s been revealed so far. “Of course there is the Wii U too
Quote from: AMD Graphics ArchitectAMD also provides the graphics horsepower behind the Wii U, a fact Gustafson was quick to point out when asked about his feelings on the PlayStation 4 and the fact that it’s the only true next-generation console that’s been revealed so far. “Of course there is the Wii U too
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Going from 100 million to 30 million is not OK,not in this stupid business.
Btw,70 million difference is not the point here.
His reasoning is Wii+360+PS3 = total combined console sales. That number won't change for the upcoming consoles (???) with Microsoft and Sony taking up a much larger share than Nintendo this time around.Hahahaha, um, pachy, NO. Wii buyers have their phones for shit quality games now and they cost one dollar instead of fifty. They're not coming back, as you say.
I don't think the Wii audience will jump on the PS4 or Xbox 3. They're mostly gone.
Wait for:New Super Mario Bros U
ZombiU
Monster Hunter 3
Dragon Quest X
New 3D Mario
New Zelda
New Mario Kart
Just getting it established here.
Wait for:New Super Mario Bros U
ZombiU
Monster Hunter 3
Dragon Quest X
New 3D Mario
New Zelda
New Mario Kart
Just getting it established here.
You forgot E3.
55,000 Wii in March
85,000 Wiis
:drudge
Nintendo sold 55,000 Wii in March
85,000 Wiis
Wait for:New Super Mario Bros U
ZombiU
Monster Hunter 3
Dragon Quest X
Lego City Undercover
E3
Spaceworld
Panic Nintendo is Best Nintendo
New 3D Mario
New Zelda
New Mario Kart
Wait for:New Super Mario Bros U
ZombiU
Monster Hunter 3
Dragon Quest X
Lego City Undercover
Wii U update.
E3
Spaceworld
Panic Nintendo is Best Nintendo
New 3D Mario
New Zelda
New Mario Kart
Earthbound wii U is saved
LTTP 2 for the 3DS. okay, now that is legit interesting.
Bravely Default will get a English release...in 2014
WUT?
LTTP 2 for the 3DS. okay, now that is legit interesting.
Wii U Virtual Console will launch shortly after the update and will feature Ice Climber, Excitebike, Xevious, River City Ransom, Super Mario World, Mario's Super Picross, F-Zero, Fire Emblem, Super Ghosts, Solomon's Key, Mega Man 3, Kirby Super Super Deluxe.
QuoteWii U Virtual Console will launch shortly after the update and will feature Ice Climber, Excitebike, Xevious, River City Ransom, Super Mario World, Mario's Super Picross, F-Zero, Fire Emblem, Super Ghosts, Solomon's Key, Mega Man 3, Kirby Super Super Deluxe.
What a pathetic lineup. Not even Gamecube or 64 games
that's why Nintendo hasn't released an Earthbound title in the U.S. since the first one. They were like "damn, everybody is in love with this game and it sold millions, we should save this for when we are in panic mode." It's not because the game wasn't popular enough to release a new one. What? You think some cold-hearted business team runs Nintendo? Games industry runs on emotions and honor.
edit: oh wow, it's not even a new game, just the VC release...
Given the legal minefield the game presents, it's pretty miraculous they're getting it up on the VC. And of course it's not a new one. Itoi said it's done. Given they're basically manifestations of his personal experiences, that's that.
QuoteWii U Virtual Console will launch shortly after the update and will feature Ice Climber, Excitebike, Xevious, River City Ransom, Super Mario World, Mario's Super Picross, F-Zero, Fire Emblem, Super Ghosts, Solomon's Key, Mega Man 3, Kirby Super Super Deluxe.
What a pathetic lineup. Not even Gamecube or 64 games
What Fire Emblem? A fully-translated version of the original Famicom one? That would be kinda neat if they did something like that...
No fifa? They really missed on opportunity with the new controller by laying it on the floor and doing kicking motions over it.
that's why Nintendo hasn't released an Earthbound title in the U.S. since the first one. They were like "damn, everybody is in love with this game and it sold millions, we should save this for when we are in panic mode." It's not because the game wasn't popular enough to release a new one. What? You think some cold-hearted business team runs Nintendo? Games industry runs on emotions and honor.
edit: oh wow, it's not even a new game, just the VC release...
Given the legal minefield the game presents, it's pretty miraculous they're getting it up on the VC. And of course it's not a new one. Itoi said it's done. Given they're basically manifestations of his personal experiences, that's that.
I'd love to know what exactly went on between EA showing up at the WiiU reveal/announcement talking about an unprecedented partnership and now.
And also that Nintendo is a bag of cunts.Especially NoA, yes.
Why are the biggest fans the most willing to bash developers for not localizing games? :-\Because those are the only ones who care enough about it.
So nothing new was announced for WiiU... heh.
Makes me wonder what Nintendo is really thinking.
Internet people are losing their shit over Earthbound VC. I don't see that convincing anyone to buy a Wii U.
So nothing new was announced for WiiU... heh.
Makes me wonder what Nintendo is really thinking.
Internet people are losing their shit over Earthbound VC. I don't see that convincing anyone to buy a Wii U.
i don't get it,go to an emulation site,download it and play it on an emu,you don't even have to pay for a 250$ paperweight to do so
"Family compensated for participation"
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=54864030&postcount=300
These motherfuckers are sick creepy fucks...
There are still some issues with the handheld market, of course, from the fairly poor third-party support to the questions hanging over Sony's PS Vita. But Nintendo has once again proven that it understands its own market much better than the doubters have.
Which brings me to the Wii U. Regulars at CVG might be aware that I talk down the console's chances in the most definitive language possible whenever asked. Well, from the things I'm hearing, there's a chance I'll soon be added to the reject bin of crazy talking twitter twonks pretty soon.
Hopefully, if we obtain further details from our sources, we'll be in a position to explain more to you soon. But, for now, put it this way: In the past two years there have been moments of disquiet regarding the 3DS and - like an instant magic trick - Nintendo has put an end to this with sudden reveals of significant games that went on to become star performers at Christmas.
Seems the true god of Nintards is Emily Rogers.
Emily Rogers: Good E3 for Wii U, owning both Wii U and 3DS beneficial in the future.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=544719
:rejoice
The fans are going cray, yo. I created a GAF thread asking about the prospects of the 2nd pad and whether people still cared, and shortly got a PM asking if I was "earnest in my query" or just creating more trolling avenues. I mean, it's true that's it's a little bit of A and a little bit of B, but the feels are running high if we've reached this stage.
The fans are going cray, yo. I created a GAF thread asking about the prospects of the 2nd pad and whether people still cared, and shortly got a PM asking if I was "earnest in my query" or just creating more trolling avenues. I mean, it's true that's it's a little bit of A and a little bit of B, but the feels are running high if we've reached this stage.
You're an earnest queer.
The fans are going cray, yo. I created a GAF thread asking about the prospects of the 2nd pad and whether people still cared, and shortly got a PM asking if I was "earnest in my query" or just creating more trolling avenues. I mean, it's true that's it's a little bit of A and a little bit of B, but the feels are running high if we've reached this stage.
The fans are going cray, yo. I created a GAF thread asking about the prospects of the 2nd pad and whether people still cared, and shortly got a PM asking if I was "earnest in my query" or just creating more trolling avenues. I mean, it's true that's it's a little bit of A and a little bit of B, but the feels are running high if we've reached this stage.
that Bloomberg thread is full of "but but sony lost a lot of money" defenses :lol
The fans are going cray, yo. I created a GAF thread asking about the prospects of the 2nd pad and whether people still cared, and shortly got a PM asking if I was "earnest in my query" or just creating more trolling avenues. I mean, it's true that's it's a little bit of A and a little bit of B, but the feels are running high if we've reached this stage.
NINTENDO CO., LTD. ANNOUNCES PROMOTION OF NOA CHAIRMAN TATSUMI KIMISHIMA TO NCL MANAGING DIRECTOR
Led Nintendo of America Since 2002
REDMOND, Wash., April 24, 2013 – Nintendo Co., Ltd. (NCL) today announced a planned promotion for Tatsumi Kimishima, current chairman and CEO of Nintendo of America (NOA) and a director of its parent Nintendo Co., Ltd. Subject to shareholder approval, he will become NCL managing director, and transfer from NOA in Redmond, Wash., to NCL headquarters in Kyoto, Japan. In his new position, he will assume the roles of general manager of Corporate Analysis and Administration, and general manager of the General Affairs Division. These titles are currently held by Yoshihiro Mori and Masaharu Matsumoto respectively, both of whom are retiring. Kimishima will assume his new duties in Kyoto later this summer.
Kimishima was named to his current position at NOA in 2006. He first joined Nintendo in Japan in 2000, and was subsequently named president of Pokémon USA in 2001, before moving on to become president of the Nintendo of America subsidiary in 2002. Previously, he spent 27 years at Sanwa Bank of Japan, with multiple postings in North America and Central America.
Many of his current responsibilities, including the CEO title, will be assumed by Global President Satoru Iwata. The move will support the company’s unified global strategy, allow streamlined decision making and enhance Nintendo's organizational agility in the current competitive environment. Reggie Fils-Aime will continue in his role as president and COO of NOA, reporting to Iwata.
Other changes announced to Nintendo’s global board of directors can be found at http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/.
What's the difference between President and CEO?
So Nintendo announced today that a Mario Kart Wii U is coming soon.PANIC MODE NINTENDO IS BEST NINTENDO
So Nintendo announced today that a Mario Kart Wii U is coming soon.
So Nintendo announced today that a Mario Kart Wii U is coming soon.
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I wonder if he's going to live here in WA or if he'll be bouncing back and forth to Kyoto. Ugh what a life
The fans are going cray, yo. I created a GAF thread asking about the prospects of the 2nd pad and whether people still cared, and shortly got a PM asking if I was "earnest in my query" or just creating more trolling avenues. I mean, it's true that's it's a little bit of A and a little bit of B, but the feels are running high if we've reached this stage.
So Nintendo announced today that a Mario Kart Wii U is coming soon.
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Now, to address a few of the comments in this thread: People can say what they will about 'botched' launches; I disagree. The 3DS's main problems were that it launched without a Mario game, and that the DS still had life in its tail end. Of course, a price cut CAN help, but that wasn't the primary reason for its turnaround. I believe that when Nintendo said they had learned lessons from the 3DS, they meant in terms of having more games available in the launch window for the Wii U - they delivered on that side, THEN launching with a Mario game. They would have hoped for better continued support from other parties, but collectively (not all), those parties didn't step up to the plate and they failed the Wii U, Wii U owners and Nintendo fans. If you remember E3 2011, NSMBU was there in raw form as NSMBMii (I hate that this game gets called a 'lazy' effort by some when it has some of the tightest level design in all side-scrolling Mario games, and had been in development for quite a while). At E3 2012, Reggie said that many fans want a Mario game at launch (His words were "You've Gotta launch with Mario", or something among those lines). So, he revealed what you now know as NSMBU - 3D Mario isn't here YET, because moving into HD game development hasn't been an easy or smooth transition, and they want it to be something very special. I'll keep mentioning the point about the transition, because the Internet hasn't allowed for that fact. To my mind, they addressed what they believed to be the main concerns.
The launch was fine. He had no control over Rayman Legends being delayed, Crysis 3 and Aliens: Colonial Marines being discarded or other titles not announced for the Wii U - Had those events not happened earlier in 2013, any talk of 'droughts' would have been far less pronounced. Pikmin 3 is an unfortunate delay, but I would rather they made the best game they can. Given that all but one of those events, if that, were beyond his control, my verdict is that he delivers. The Vita's troubles would support suggestions that this isn't a Nintendo problem; They, as well as Sony and Microsoft are presented with very different challenges.
To write the Wii U off now is downright dumb and extremely bizarre, ESPECIALLY when it hasn't really played its hand of cards - Currently, It has no 3D Mario, Mario Kart, Wii U Zelda, Donkey Kong, Metroid, Kid Icarus, Wii Fit U, Wii U Sports, Wii U Party, Brain Training, Animal Crossing, Pokemon, Nintendo Dogs & Cats, Pikmin 3, Kirby, F-Zero, Starfox, Bayonetta 2, The Wonderful 101, SMT VS Fire Emblem, Retro or Monolith Games or Smash Bros.
You know what else? He took a pay cut after the 3DS launch time, and he ensured that not one person was laid off. People mock him for saying "Please Understand", but I see a good man, a gentleman, a compassionate man - It reflects badly on the gaming community and society in general when someone can be on the receiving end of a personality attack for having manners, for being polite. People mock him when he apologises - Unlike others, he hasn't shat on his products for a year (**Glares at the Vita...**), he was sympathetic towards early complaints about the loading times (that can't be said for 'things break' with the Red Rings Of Death), and he hasn't told people to get a second job to afford their consoles which haemorrhaged money for some years - He doesn't hide, and in apologising when events haven't ran the desired course, I like that he carries himself in a more human manner, and that he has been accountable.
Nobody ever gets everything right in business all the time, wherever they are, but most of the calls he's made were right. Truthfully, he's one of the best things ever to happen to Nintendo. Two other points; the first is that they are publishing Bravely Default: Flying Fairy (an SE game) for European and North American shores - So, between trying to make Wii U and 3DS games, they are also using resources to prevent another Xenoblade Chronicles/Pandora's Tower/The Last Story affair. It's not clear to what extent this affects a company of their size and its schedule, but I would imagine that multiple factors start to add up - This is one of the reasons why the ongoing expansions are imperative. The second is that Masahiro Sakurai, the man behind Smash Bros. has been injured, so there are setbacks with regard to game development. But they are all trying, and I have every confidence that they will continue to be brilliant.
Clearly, Iwata has a vision for Nintendo, and considering that he's played a critical role in their biggest success stories to date, it is right and proper that he's given every chance to realise that vision. I feel that ultimately, they'll be all the better off for it.
Good idea, it's only fair that we compare the Virtual Console lineup six months after the launch of each console. Don't forget, the Wii and Wii were both released on November 18th.
Wii U Virtual Console
NES:
Balloon Fight
Donkey Kong Jr.
Excitebike
Ice Climber
Kirby's Adventure
Punch-Out!! (April 26th, 2013)
SNES:
F-Zero
Super Mario World (April 26th, 2013)
Total number of games: 8
Wii Virtual Console
NES:
Donkey Kong
Mario bros.
Pinball
Soccer
Solomon's Key
The Legend of Zelda
Wario's Woods
Donkey Kong Jr.
Ice Hockey
Tennis
Super Mario bros.
Baseball
Urban Champion
Gradius
Xevious
Ice Climber
Kid Icarus
Kirby's Adventure
The Legend of Kage
Elevator Action
Tecmo Bowl
Excitebike
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Galaga
Punch-Out!!
Castlevania (April 30th, 2007)
SNES:
F-Zero
SimCity
Street Fighter II: The World Warrior
Super Castlevania IV
R-Type III: The Third Lightning
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
Contra III: The Alien Wars
Super Mario World
Donkey Kong Country
Super Ghouls'n Ghosts
Romance of the Three Kingdoms IV: Wall of Fire
Gradius III
The Legend of the Mystical Ninja (April 30th, 2007)
N64:
Super Mario 64
Mario Kart 64
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Star Fox 64 (April 2nd, 2007)
Sega Genesis:
Sonic the Hedgehog
Altered Beast
Ecco the Dolphin
Golden Axe
Columns
Ristar
Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine
Gunstar Heroes
Space Harrier II
ToeJam & Earl
Bonanza bros.
Comix Zone
Gain Ground
Streets of Rage
Bio-Hazard Battle
Sword of Vermilion
Sonic Spinball
Beyond Oasis
Alex Kidd in the Enchanted Castle
Virtua Fighter 2
Wonder Boy in Monster World (April 23rd, 2007)
TurboGrafx-16:
Bomberman '93
Bonk's Adventure
Super Star Soldier
Victory Run
Alien Crush
Military Madness
R-Type
Dungeon Explorer
Soldier Blade
Moto Roader
Vigilante
New Adventure Island
Chew Man Fu
Double Dungeons
Splatterhouse
Dragon's Curse
Bravo Man
Bonk's Revenge
Battle Load Runner
Shockman (April 30th, 2007)
Total number of games: 84
Both lists are based on the North American release schedule.
Everything about the Wii U is about Nintendo trying to do as little as possible.
onto the gamepad and they don't want to dilute the marketplace by having too many games available at once!
Nintendo president Satoru Iwata has said Wii U has “lost momentum” due to the company’s first-party release schedule.
“Wii U has lost momentum due to the release pace of first-party titles which has not lived up to consumers’ expectations,” said Iwata during Nintendo’s latest financial results briefing. “Starting with Pikmin 3 scheduled for release in the upcoming July, however, we will intensively launch our key titles to give sales momentum to the platform.
“Some have the misunderstanding that Wii U is just Wii with a pad for games, and others even consider Wii U GamePad as a peripheral device connectable to Wii. We feel deeply responsible for not having tried hard enough to have consumers understand the product.”
According to Iwata, the system does not yet have its Wii Sports—a game in which people “immediately comprehended its product value.”
Iwata continued, “Wii U has lost momentum due to the release pace of first-party titles which has not lived up to consumers’ expectations.
I wonder... what's the next title that will save Nintendo after Pikmin 3 doesn't do it? This reminds me of that one E3 where Reggie tried to convince the media that Animal Crossing was a title for hardcore gamers. Uh huh.
http://ca.ign.com/articles/2013/04/25/no-nintendo-press-conference-at-e3-2013?abthid=51789e514382074829000029
no need for a whole hour when you are going to only shows 3 games :spin
I wonder... what's the next title that will save Nintendo after Pikmin 3 doesn't do it? This reminds me of that one E3 where Reggie tried to convince the media that Animal Crossing was a title for hardcore gamers. Uh huh.
http://ca.ign.com/articles/2013/04/25/no-nintendo-press-conference-at-e3-2013?abthid=51789e514382074829000029
no need for a whole hour when you are going to only shows 3 games :spin
WAIT 'TIL SPACEWORLD! :hyper
“Wii U has lost momentum due to the release pace of first-party titles which has not lived up to consumers’ expectations,” said Iwata during Nintendo’s latest financial results briefing. “Starting with Pikmin 3 scheduled for release in the upcoming July, however, we will intensively launch our key titles to give sales momentum to the platform.
Quote“Wii U has lost momentum due to the release pace of first-party titles which has not lived up to consumers’ expectations,” said Iwata during Nintendo’s latest financial results briefing. “Starting with Pikmin 3 scheduled for release in the upcoming July, however, we will intensively launch our key titles to give sales momentum to the platform.
I actually like Pikmin, so I don't really feel compelled to take a cheap shot at it. But that is an odd sentiment to me. What's after Pikmin? Because unless there's a simultaneous price drop or other major marketing effort, I don't think Pikmin is the title needed to turn the tide, here.
http://ca.ign.com/articles/2013/04/25/no-nintendo-press-conference-at-e3-2013?abthid=51789e514382074829000029
no need for a whole hour when you are going to only shows 3 games :spin
It looks like Nintendo is giving up.
It looks like Nintendo is giving up.
Seems like it. No one watches Nintendo Direct outside of Nintendo fans. And if the plan is to focus on playable demos, why not have a big ass conference where Reggie can say "btw, this demo of Zelda: Rift of Time will be available to download and play on your WiiU immediately after this conference."
And who watches E3 conferences?
Nintendo found a way to speak directly to their customer base without allowing any critics to dilute the message. They don't speak to their shareholders with the E3 conference. The general public's attention is best grabbed with a separate event like what Sony and MS have done/are doing.
I'm shocked E3 has shambled on, to be honest. Thought the industry had finally figured things out a few years back, but no, here we are, everyone's losing assloads of money and still blowing tons of cash putting on a little pageant where they have to share attention with everyone else.
I think it is vastly more likely that Nintendo has nothing to show as opposed to them finally becoming modern.
Yes, another Wii U thread - but this one is optimistic!
Like many of you, I brought my Wii U on launch day. Again like many of you, I've been disappointed with the lack of games to actually play on it. EA have now pulled out, and third party support is looking bare.
But hey, I brought the thing for Nintendo games. And if that's all they have left to fall back on, they should totally unveil all their hard hitters at E3. No excuses.
I'm optimistic. I can pretty much predict on these being a show:
- Mario 3D game
- Retro's new project
- A hint of the new Zelda
- X
- Mario Kart
- Smash Bros
- Wind Waker HD.
And that alone would be enough for me. Anyone else?
From every annual E3 keynote speech, Reggie always manages to dedicate 15-20 minutes on the sales of the Nintendo console (last year we heard about the millions of Wii units sold) and the handheld units sold.
Since the Wii U still hasn't performed as expected (this is not a Wii U hating thread), should we expect Reggie to still boast and brag about Nintendo's fiscal accomplishments, or will he pull a fast one on us and actually just talk about the hardware and games? I'd be pretty stoked for approximately 1 hour 10 min worth of Nintendo awesomeness.
Or am I being too optimistic? Keep in mind that I still don't remember much from last E3, so someone please correct me on anything I misstated.
There will be a ton of press on Sony and Microsoft who will most likely make announcements and/or show the PS4(Orbis) and Xbox 720(Durango).
We know Nintendo is working on it's "big guns" like Zelda, most likely a new Metroid and will be showing off a new Yoshi and Mario for the WiiU at E3.
They will still no doubt be eclipsed by the hype from Sony and MS and their respective "next gen" systems.
While I do think WiiU will have a killer line up of games for E3 it won't be enough imo.
What do you think Nintendo could announce/show off that would combat Sony and Microsoft at E3?
Mine would be the announcement that Nintendo is developing mobile games. It's something many people have been clamoring for and I think there's plenty of room for Nintendo to enter that market while still supporting their home dedicated consoles.
I could see Nintendo doing some really cool stuff with mobile gaming and tying it into Miiverse and the WiiU.
For example, a mobile pokemon game that allows you to battle players online and capture rare monsters(not found on the WiiU version) and then transfer those to your WiiU pokemon game?
An Animal Crossing game compatible between WiiU, 3DS and mobile game owners?
Just a couple quick examples.
What would be yours?
my first thread on neogaf (so im learning to walk) be nice
my guess is that nintendo will say little as possible about the 3ds because its speaking for itself ,
e3 for nintendo must be a wii u blowout all i can think of now is maybe mini e3 for 3ds that night
so wii u games
retro project
mario 3d u
mario kart u
zelda ww
maybe a tiny glimpse of smash brothers
yoshi yarn
pikmin 3
the wonderful 101
wii fit u
batman (they should snag that demo for live on stage)
rayman origins (they should snag that demo for live on stage)
assasins cred (same snag that demo for live on stage)
watch dogs (they should snag that demo for live on stage)
that X wii u game (demo on stage)
bayoneta 2
Do you believe Nintendo has a chance to distinguish itself from Sony/MS this E3, by showing a good library of exclusive games for Wii U that will be available till early 2014, and increases its head start until second wave of next generation games hit?
Agreeing that it is games that sell hardware and looking at what PS4 has in plate coming this holiday, I do not expect it to sell even more than PS3, considering that it doesn't have built-in BC with PS3 games: Most of the exclusive they showed for PS4 are from franchises/studios that historically don't sell well[KZ, Infamous, etc.], and almost all the other games they showed are multiplatforms on HD consoles, and also, will be available on PC where people already have high end graphics.
This may be a bit better for Microsoft, as they may be able to produce few tech demos for Halo or Gears of war; but that will be it and those games won't be ready anytime soon either, noting that until recently, most 1st party studios of both MS and Sony have been/are busy with making games for PS3/360. I suspect the plethora of tech demos they showed [SE's footage being the most obvious one] shows this.
It also showed one truth, that some people were so adamant in rejecting: graphically, we won't notice another jump as we did from the last generation to this generation.
[btw, one interesting thing, is that how they didn't show the console, yet just the name is enough to prevent a confusion whether it's a new console or not; from a marketing point, I still don't understand why Nintendo named Wii U, Wii U! Specially that they showed the Gamepad so much...]
Within a week of Iwata becoming CEO of Nintendo America this shit happens. Ship him back to Japan
Version 3.0.0 U available via wireless Internet connection includes the following improvements:
New Features:
A standby function to download and install software while the system is powered off
Software purchased from the Nintendo eShop will automatically install in the background once the download is complete
Holding down the B Button while the Wii U logo is displayed during startup will load the Wii Menu *¹
Changes to System Settings:
An option to transfer and/or copy between two USB storage devices in "Data Management"
To facilitate this feature, you will now be able to connect two USB storage devices to a single Wii U console*²
The ability to select multiple software titles when transferring, copying, or deleting data in "Data Management"
The option to adjust screen size is now available under "TV" *³
"Auto Power-Down" has been renamed "Power Settings"
Options for the standby function are located within this menu
Changes to Miiverse:
Added support for the Wii Remote, Wii U Pro Controller, and Classic Controller
Handwritten posts will now also display on the TV screen during creation
"Undo" and "Redo" buttons are now available when creating a handwritten post
Removed screen size setting. This option can now be adjusted from System Settings
Changes to Nintendo eShop:
Software downloaded from the Nintendo eShop will include released updates and will no longer need to be updated after installation
Removed screen size setting. This option can now be adjusted from System Settings
Changes to the Internet Browser:
Added support for the Wii Remote and Wii U Pro Controller
Added the option to change search engines when performing a keyword search
Added the option to return to the start page from the bookmark menu
Removed screen size setting. This option can now be adjusted from System Settings
Changes to Download Management:
Added the option to change the priority of downloads
Improvements to system stability and usability:
Further improvements to overall system stability and other minor adjustments have been made to enhance the user experience.
Iwata doing dat overtime
Iwata doing dat overtime
Iwata coded that update to the metal.
Those are some bold predictions. A new Mario Kart? A new Zelda? Wow!
The Wii U is basically a train wreck in slow motion, but the really cool part is that you can zoom in on the train wreck and watch all the individual bolts popping out and the metal twisting and the look in everyone's face as they realize that this isn't going to end well
That being said until about a month or two ago I had never ever heard the phrase "Nintendo Direct"
That being said until about a month or two ago I had never ever heard the phrase "Nintendo Direct"
Stoney, have you seen Satoru Iwata deliver the latest "Year of Luigi" Nintendo Direct?
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The Wii U is basically a train wreck in slow motion, but the really cool part is that you can zoom in on the train wreck and watch all the individual bolts popping out and the metal twisting and the look in everyone's face as they realize that this isn't going to end wellThis is an excellent post.
but guys it's LUIGIIIIIII
Luigis Mansion is awesome. fekkits\
Luigis Mansion is awesome. fekkits\
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Finally, Iwata is aware of the fact that many people hold the belief that Wii U is underpowered, and feels they need to work on remedying such misunderstandings. Not only that, but he knows that there are some third parties that are actively supporting Wii U, while others aren't even giving it a second glance. He wants to fix this by creating a situation in which third parties not currently actively supporting Wii U will regret that decision once third parties that did support it start to produce hits on the system.
You know things are uber dire when the big boss says companies will regret not supporting your platform.
Its a real passive agressive non arguement.
Dude, there were at least two Year of Luigi Nintendo Directs--months apart.
:lolLuigis Mansion is awesome. fekkits\
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Radiohead, without ea and their sportsrange Nintendo is fucked mainstream speaking. No one else has these kind of titles.
Every Nintendo Direct is like a mini-E3 in terms of reveals and it costs Nintendo about 50 cents to make.
Why spend millions on a big flash press conference when they reveal everything in the Directs?
Every Nintendo Direct is like a mini-E3 in terms of reveals and it costs Nintendo about 50 cents to make.
Why spend millions on a big flash press conference when they reveal everything in the Directs?
do they really spend millions on a big flash press conference? i mean why they can't just have a sort of 2 hour longs nintendo direct thing when e3 comes around? being told that "we are going to cut down on e3" just smells sort of fishy like they have nothing to show,like they could go "we won't be at e3 but we will have an event where we show X,Y and Z"
it's even more stupid when you think sony and microsoft are going to shown new console
As you've already seen, a lot of news about Nintendo games and services that traditionally would be held until E3 is being delivered this year through Nintendo Directs, and various press events. This approach will continue between now and E3. No matter where you are in the world, you'll be fully informed. We look forward to continuing to provide you with Nintendo news and content in ways you haven't before experienced. Beyond the news that will be communicated through Nintendo Direct videos in the run up to E3, at the show itself we're hosting two smaller events on Tuesday morning before the LACC opens instead of just our traditional one event. A media event and a partner presentation will both occur that morning. While the audiences will be different between the two events, both will occur on the Tuesday morning of E3 (June 11) which is the date and time period the public has come to expect for Nintendo to deliver E3 news.
Radiohead, without ea and their sportsrange Nintendo is fucked mainstream speaking. No one else has these kind of titles.
I'm not so sure. Did Madden Wii or FIFA Wii contribute meaningfully to either EA or Nintendo's coffers?
To some extent, I can't blame EA for shunning. They had some early valiant efforts on the Wii, stuff like Boom Blox etc. But by that same token, towards the end they weren't making the same effort as the PES team. FIFA13 on Wii U seemed a laxidaisical effort. And yet, their NFS:MW port is excellent... so my reading of it is basically that they're not going to throw money at anything that won't work.
Even as a Wii U owner I consider it likely that I'd be buying EA sports games on another console. If they made special effort on Wii U SKUs I'd consider them, but I honestly don't think myself, EA or Nintendo will be too affected if they don't...
What would suck about continued shunnage would be if EA has more gems like Mirrors Edge or Deadspace. Cyberpunk perhaps? This pad would be awesome for Sim City / Sims, Theme Park / Hospital type games too :(
Every Nintendo Direct is like a mini-E3 in terms of reveals and it costs Nintendo about 50 cents to make.
Why spend millions on a big flash press conference when they reveal everything in the Directs?
do they really spend millions on a big flash press conference? i mean why they can't just have a sort of 2 hour longs nintendo direct thing when e3 comes around? being told that "we are going to cut down on e3" just smells sort of fishy like they have nothing to show,like they could go "we won't be at e3 but we will have an event where we show X,Y and Z"
it's even more stupid when you think sony and microsoft are going to shown new console
They already said they're doing Directs, and:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/04/25/no-nintendo-press-conference-at-e3-2013QuoteAs you've already seen, a lot of news about Nintendo games and services that traditionally would be held until E3 is being delivered this year through Nintendo Directs, and various press events. This approach will continue between now and E3. No matter where you are in the world, you'll be fully informed. We look forward to continuing to provide you with Nintendo news and content in ways you haven't before experienced. Beyond the news that will be communicated through Nintendo Direct videos in the run up to E3, at the show itself we're hosting two smaller events on Tuesday morning before the LACC opens instead of just our traditional one event. A media event and a partner presentation will both occur that morning. While the audiences will be different between the two events, both will occur on the Tuesday morning of E3 (June 11) which is the date and time period the public has come to expect for Nintendo to deliver E3 news.
Radiohead, without ea and their sportsrange Nintendo is fucked mainstream speaking. No one else has these kind of titles.
I'm not so sure. Did Madden Wii or FIFA Wii contribute meaningfully to either EA or Nintendo's coffers?
To some extent, I can't blame EA for shunning. They had some early valiant efforts on the Wii, stuff like Boom Blox etc. But by that same token, towards the end they weren't making the same effort as the PES team. FIFA13 on Wii U seemed a laxidaisical effort. And yet, their NFS:MW port is excellent... so my reading of it is basically that they're not going to throw money at anything that won't work.
Even as a Wii U owner I consider it likely that I'd be buying EA sports games on another console. If they made special effort on Wii U SKUs I'd consider them, but I honestly don't think myself, EA or Nintendo will be too affected if they don't...
What would suck about continued shunnage would be if EA has more gems like Mirrors Edge or Deadspace. Cyberpunk perhaps? This pad would be awesome for Sim City / Sims, Theme Park / Hospital type games too :(
Wii got by on Wii Sports and Wii Play and other horse shit, if Nintendo wants to follow through with Wii U as a more hardcore device they absolutely 100% need EA. Also EA makes more than just sports games.
Maybe the problem is sports games arent popular with forum types so people act dismissive or something?
I've bought two WiiU's for my family for xmas, and they put their units already in the closet. :lol
What a disaster. The Wii lasted at least two years before It was neglected by everyone.
Fair play man. If my job were paying well I'd probably be doing similar... I've just realised asking like that was really nosey of me BTW. Sorry about that!
When you say 3 PS3s...do you mean 3 PS3s or 2 WiiUs and 1 PS3?
Fair play man. If my job were paying well I'd probably be doing similar... I've just realised asking like that was really nosey of me BTW. Sorry about that!
There's also the lower wage representation in here scrapping to get by to the next month eating leftovers from the city dumpsters: Diunx.
About four or five days ago, I hinted at the idea of Wii U VC games being playable on 3DS, and 3DS VC games being playable on Wii U. It sounds amazing, but it’s not that simple. And I question whether anyone can actually call it “cross play” since you’re basically rebuying your games.
Not every VC game will allow this.
A VC game would have to release on both Wii U VC and 3DS VC for this to work.
You have to pay a discount price to transfer a Wii U VC game to 3DS. It would be just like how you pay a discount price to play a Wii VC game on Wii U.
On another note: Some people have asked me if this means games will be linked to an account. I don’t think these two things are related. Linking one piece of hardware to another piece of hardware doesn’t require an account. If you can send your Miis from your 3DS to your Wii U, then I don’t see why it would be difficult to do the same with certain VC games. Especially since Nintendo had a feature on the original Wii where you could download DS demos to your DSi.
Wait you can't do that already? smh.
I hope Sony doesn't pull this shit when they get PS3/PSP stuff up on PS4, but having to pay again for PS1 stuff on their smartphone platform tells me not to be hopeful.
Nintendo providing half assed solutions for something every android and ios user expects already.
Yes, its real - we have now completely reversed the WiiU drive authentification, disk encryption, file system, and everything else needed for this next generation K3y. Stay tuned for updates!
QuoteYes, its real - we have now completely reversed the WiiU drive authentification, disk encryption, file system, and everything else needed for this next generation K3y. Stay tuned for updates!
http://wiikey.com/news/
The gift that keeps on giving.
It's such a shame that the WiiU will have to deal with this idiocy if this chip is true, people will just buy the system but won't purchase games, Nintendo sell more systems but the software developers and game developers lose out, and if this keeps happening what funding will there be left for games? People will just keep seeing the same over and over again and we get fewer amazing games.
I think my Wii U is running worse after the update :'( I've had two hard locks since (I can't remember any before). Plus everything runs about the same. Maybe Miiverse loads faster but netflix, amazon, and games are all just as slow as they ever were >:( (the things I actually use the wii u for)
I think my Wii U is running worse after the update :'( I've had two hard locks since (I can't remember any before). Plus everything runs about the same. Maybe Miiverse loads faster but netflix, amazon, and games are all just as slow as they ever were >:( (the things I actually use the wii u for)
Friends were over and wanted to watch Billy Joel videos on WiiU :'(
:piss Long Island :piss2
And you don't wanna leave to get a new job :teeheeThe devil you know...
Friends were over and wanted to watch Billy Joel videos on WiiU :'(you could have been on one of those WiiU commercials. "The graphics are impressive, and you can watch Billy Joel videos on it too!"
:piss Long Island :piss2
Friends were over and wanted to watch Billy Joel videos on WiiU :'(
:piss Long Island :piss2
And you don't wanna leave to get a new job :teehee
Not sure if this was posted or not: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=551056
As everybody else has said, 7 years late to HD and they somehow failed to predict what ever major publisher/developer has been warning about. The situation is really bad, 3rd parties are shunning the system and first party games are getting stalled. Great, just great.
Please Understaff..
:dead
The official statement from EA Sports is below: "We will not be releasing a Wii U version of Madden NFL in 2013. However, we have a strong partnership with Nintendo and will continue to evaluate opportunities for delivering additional Madden NFL products for Nintendo fans in the future."http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/34079
First Madden game to miss a Nintendo console since 1991.
Good jon, Nintendo.
At this point it will be easier to say what support Nintendo does have than the stuff it doesn't.
At this point it will be easier to say what support Nintendo does have than the stuff it doesn't.
Xbox 360 had Oblivion pretty early, and DoA4; then Ghost Recon in spring 2006 iirc. Not a bad launch window and we know it successfully took advantage of its window as the only next gen console on the market. I had thought that was Nintendo's plan: get three or four big games out within 4 months and start hyping the next big thing; didn't MS preview Gears pretty early, to Game Informer?
What does the WiiU have in May?
This is pathetic how the fuck can a company release a console in this state?
This is pathetic how the fuck can a company release a console in this state?(http://i.imgur.com/i5czqnF.gif)
At this point it will be easier to say what support Nintendo does have than the stuff it doesn't.
This is the wii u's only support left:
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So basicly the Wii U has none of the big 3rd party releases that are coming this year.
No COD, Gta, fifa, madden, battlefield.
Even doing the gamecube 25 million seems a strech like this.
Nfans are delusional. You can laugh at Madden's "roster update" all you want (while buying your yearly Mario/Zelda/etc "gimmick update" titles of course) but it's an important title. How do you sell a console that doesn't have Madden, CoD, etc in 2013? Likewise in Europe, a console without Fifa? You need those titles to increase your user base, and appeal to potential adopters.
No real online infrastructure, no major third party games, no consistent game release schedule. The WiiU is like a burger joint that doesn't sell fries or cheeseburgers.
Nfans are delusional. You can laugh at Madden's "roster update" all you want (while buying your yearly Mario/Zelda/etc "gimmick update" titles of course) but it's an important title. How do you sell a console that doesn't have Madden, CoD, etc in 2013? Likewise in Europe, a console without Fifa? You need those titles to increase your user base, and appeal to potential adopters.
According figures on gaf Vita sold more games in q1 then wiiu in the uk.
3ds is outselling vita software 3:1 despite selling wau more.
Just give me a handheld with HDMI out to a TV and I'm fine.
if it was such a fucking success then why isn't the sequel doing gangbusters?Androx liked this. :-[
Can we please stop repeating the lie that the Wii was a successful console? It was a fad. A fad, a fad, a fucking fad. Non gamers bought it for Wii sports and then forgot it existed six months later. A successful console has legs and doesn't die 3 years into it's life cycle. Jerk off to those sales charts all you want, if it was such a fucking success then why isn't the sequel doing gangbusters?
friends had a follow-up? interesting
friends had a follow-up? interesting
Joey :yuck
:snoopIf that wasn't a copypasta I demand you end yourself for the good of humanity. Jesus.
Nintendo is internally lining up a string of high profile releases for the second half of 2013 as part of a major new bid to recover from Wii U's stuttering start.
A number of blockbuster Wii U games will be released from summer until the end of the year, one of which is a new 3D Mario title. Although CVG is not yet able to confirm what the others will be, a new Mario Kart will debut in playable form at E3.
The marketing campaign will commence at the Los Angeles event (although some claim sooner), where the 3D Mario game will also be playable on the show floor. The title will be released before October, pending development delays.
After the recent reveal of a WiiU mod by team WiiKey, old time scene release group 'Venom' have released the first WiiU game dump:
The_Avengers_Battle_for_Earth_PAL_WiiU-VENOM
The game weighs in at a hefty 23GB (23823.40 MB)
You can see the release NFO here:
VENOM NFO
It looks like the scene is gearing up towards full on pirating of the WiiU.
Yeah can't wait to leave my comp on a for a week+ in order to torrent/play a shitty licensed game for 'free'. :hyper
Guys, I just received some a hot tip about a new game that's part of the Wii U revival later this year!spoiler (click to show/hide)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNjyw-D1YP0[close]
Guys, I just received some a hot tip about a new game that's part of the Wii U revival later this year!Pfffft that's just vaporware. The real deal was announced today:spoiler (click to show/hide)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNjyw-D1YP0[close]
Guys, I just received a hot tip about a new game that's part of the Wii U revival later this year!spoiler (click to show/hide)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNjyw-D1YP0[close]
Someone posted that back then?
I think those kind of people think that pikmin 3 and w101 will turn the tide this year.
Someone posted that back then?
I think those kind of people think that pikmin 3 and w101 will turn the tide this year.
nah
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=553236
I cringe whenever Wonderful 101 is mentioned, not because it's going to be a bad game, but because it will bomb and Platinum Games will be facing yet another loss.
It really doesn't matter. The game could have 20 hours of gameplay and it will still sell the same X amount of copies, which are the people who are gonna buy it regardless. And no, X will not be enough to make a positive difference in Platinum's future outlook.
It really doesn't matter. The game could have 20 hours of gameplay and it will still sell the same 1,000 copies, which are the people who are gonna buy it regardless. And no, 1,000 will not be enough to make a positive difference in Platinum's future outlook.
Little do you know that VP of HR is usually an influential decision maker on approval of first party titles
Are they serious?? Human RESOURCES?
Referring to someone as resources is kinda.....wow
What the fuck else would you call it? SMHThere are plenty of alternative terms. It's just that this one stuck.
Deus Ex: Human Revolution Director's Cut is still slated for release on Wii U soon, but it will not be coming out on May 7 as originally reported.
A Square Enix representative confirmed to us that the game's release date is currently unconfirmed and is not May 7. Retailers were the main reason the early May launch seemed likely, as Square Enix has consistently labeled the game's release as 2013, and nothing more detailed than that. Check out our impressions from PAX East 2013 for details on the changes made in the Director's Cut, which will be exclusive to Wii U.
For those keeping score, Injustice: Gods Among Us was the only Wii U retail release in April, meaning that from March 20 to May 20, only one new Wii U game will have been launched in stores.
tune in next week as the bore discusses other timely issues such as the oj simpson trial and whether or not flannel shirts tied around the waist will ever go out of style
It used to be called Personnel management, which sounds way better then HR. HR sounds like something from a dystopian future that is already here.
Let your bodies remain ready.
Before the E3 show floor opens, Reggie Fils-Aime and Shigeru Miyamoto will host a presentation to the media prior to E3.
Previously, Nintendo had announced that it would not be holding its regular, worldwide-focused pre-E3 press conference, instead hosting two smaller presentations, and using the expo to focus on upcoming software for North America. Despite this, Nintendo still plans on letting everyone know exactly what games are going to be on the show floor.
Nintendo will be holding the presentation on Tuesday morning, before the floor will be open up for all. After the presentation is concluded, the press members will be able to try the new software before everybody else. It is unsure at the time of writing if the presentation will be viewable for the public as well.
Is Robyn going on before or after Reggie?
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So much salt
bubububububu
they didn't abandon Wii U development because of infeasibility, there are financial or political realities in play
I was bored so I went onto the eShop and a new game called Kung Fu Rabbit is out for $5. I haven't heard of it before - damn nintendo fans on gaf can't even properly promote the few games the Wii U is getting >:(
I watched a youtube review and it seems fun. I'll jump in
Maybe the "Tests with not too promising results" were the first month of Wii U software sales
I was bored so I went onto the eShop and a new game called Kung Fu Rabbit is out for $5. I haven't heard of it before - damn nintendo fans on gaf can't even properly promote the few games the Wii U is getting >:(
I watched a youtube review and it seems fun. I'll jump in
seems pricy for an iOS game
which I'm guessing it was based on the title alone.
seems pricy for an iOS game
which I'm guessing it was based on the title alone.
Bingo, it's 2.69 on iOS.
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Standard Miiverse post. Wasting so much time on a simple question you could have typed and gotten a reply for in 5 minutes. But noooooooooooooooo, we have to go FULL WHIMSiiTARD UP IN THIS BITCH!
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Standard Miiverse post. Wasting so much time on a simple question you could have typed and gotten a reply for in 5 minutes. But noooooooooooooooo, we have to go FULL WHIMSiiTARD UP IN THIS BITCH!
We'll see how long it lasts (wii vote lol, swapnote) but it gave the kids a sense of community. Or it's trying to juice a rock by pretending it justifies the cost. I think it's a solid idea handled reasonably well.
I mean, HOME.
Don't get me wrong; I like Miiverse and I occasionally enjoy looking at some of drawing these bored people do, but drawing to ask a pressing question is kind of counterintuitive. It sorta defeats the purpose of resorting to Miiverse to ask something when you're in a pinch.
Nintendo’s latest Wii U firmware update has boosted the console’s GPU and CPU speed, according to a new rumour.
The rumour comes from a poster on TV Tropes who hasn’t cited any sort of source or provided any evidence, so please do treat this as rumour for now.
Their post reads:
CPU: IBM PowerPC 7xx-based tri-core processor “Espresso” clocked at 1.24 GHz before the 3.0.0 update, 3.24 GHz after the 3.0.0 update. This is an evolution to the Broadway chip used in the Wii, is 64 bit and uses Power6 technote When IBM has said that Nintendo has licensed the Power7 tech from IBM, Nintendo is not using it for the Wii U, explaining its backwards compatibility.
GPU: AMD Radeon High Definition processor codenamed “Latte” with an eDRAM cache built onto the die clocked at 550 MHz before the 3.0.0 update, 800 MHz after the 3.0.0 update.
So following the 3.0.0 update, it is claimed that both the CPU and GPU have seen a clock speed increase.
The rumour comes from a poster on TV Tropes who hasn’t cited any sort of source or provided any evidence, so please do treat this as rumour for now.
a poster on TV Tropes
also, throttling a home console doesn't really make any sense. with handhelds at least there's a plausible explanation in the form of battery savings.
:bow Andrex :bow2
I signed up for the Hulu Plus trial and the app on the Wii U is one of the worst pieces of software I've ever used. It truly is atrocious
Also, Super Mario World is good :heart I played it as a kid, but only at friend's houses since I was a Sega fan (and always will be :gloomy). This is the first time I've owned it
Amazon Video and Netflix on Wii U are considerably worse than what you can find on PS3, 360, PC, etc. I do not understand why the Wii U versions of these programs are considerably worse.
Andy is back for Round 2.
:rejoice
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=556294
more crying over semantic horseshit due to Ted Price's (CEO of Insomniac) comment :lol :lol
Originally Posted by EA:
One of our most exciting current projects is called Frostbite Go, a mobile division empowering EA game developers with Frostbite’s proven excellent workflows and features to bring true Frostbite experiences to all major mobile platforms.
Originally Posted by EA:
Used exclusively by EA teams and studios, our workflows and runtimes are highly configurable and cover all aspects of development including Audio, Animation, Cinematics, Scripting, Artificial Intelligence, Physics, Destruction, Rendering, Visual Effects, and more. Frostbite games are currently in development for current and future platforms including mobile devices.
...
Runtime in Frostbite supports a highly scalable model in order to appeal to the diverse array of platforms available on today’s market. Efficiency in both our runtime memory and runtime performance are both key factors to enabling code and data systems to deploy content to diverse targets from XBOX360 and PlayStation 4 to iOS and Android.
Originally Posted by EA:
Frostbite Stockholm hosts six of our development sub-groups; Audio, Core Systems, Mobile (Frostbite Go), Physics, Production Systems and Rendering.
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Frostbite Vancouver drives our technology forward with a focus on industry leading animation and cinematics.
Ahead of this week's NPD report, Pachter released to GameSpot sister site CNET sales estimates of 55,000 units in the US for the month, down 19 percent compared to March. The original Wii again outperformed its successor, selling 75,000 units during the period, Pachter said.http://news.cnet.com/8301-10797_3-57584382-235/analyst-nintendo-sold-55000-wii-u-units-in-april/
Concerning competitors Microsoft and Sony, Pachter's data today shows that the Xbox 360 was again the market leader, selling 205,000 units in the month. The PlayStation 3 moved 165,000 units in the period, according to Pachter.
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anyone remember what was released in the second half of the year for GC? Seems like it stabilized at a decent level by May.
Resident Evil Remake came out on April 30th.
The Nintards on GAF were hilarious then. Most of them were watching the top 10 daily Japan sales charts (which had no sales numbers). So every day, Doshin the Giant or Animal Crossing was there. So Nintards were hyped that Doshin was going to sell 100,000 copies that week. Then it turns out it sold maybe 12,000 at most for that week. Their hopes would be continually raised and then dashed for weeks on end until MEGATON. During that time, they were forcing themselves to enjoy Eternal Darkness because what the fuck else was out on the Gamecube. I think Penny Arcade made a comic about the Gamecube lid being stuck because Smash Bros. was always in it.
Good times. Although the Nintards then weren't anywhere near as angry and childish as the Nintards of now.
Super Metroid for $0.30, bitches. :rockWell, it was a really, really, good execution of a certain formula that arguably has since been done better so I guess I'll forgive you if you don't love it. I played that game so many times as a bored high schooler who hated life.
I'll finally play this classic, and hopefully hate it.
they were forcing themselves to enjoy Eternal Darkness because what the fuck else was out on the Gamecube.
Hey there your hatred for Denis Dyack aside, Eternal Darkness is a good game. I still enjoy it enough to go back to it every so often.
the $130 "maybe we'll allow two on a system in the future" WiiU pad is a controller with a wi-fi chip.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-secrets-of-the-wii-u-gamepad
You know what, I'm sorry. This post won't stand, even as a troll.they were forcing themselves to enjoy Eternal Darkness because what the fuck else was out on the Gamecube.
Hey there your hatred for Denis Dyack aside, Eternal Darkness is a good game. I still enjoy it enough to go back to it every so often.
Super Metroid for $0.30, bitches. :rock
I'll finally play this classic, and hopefully hate it.
Super Metroid was great (and I second the Zero Mission recommendation), but Castlevania SoTN did it better. And on the GBA, Aria Of Sorrow > Zero Mission.
Super Metroid for $0.30, bitches. :rock
I'll finally play this classic, and hopefully hate it.
i swear if you hate this game we will have no choice but to fight. if you hate the king of open-world action games then you must relinquish your gamer card and take up a more boring and consideralby more embarrassing hobby.
Sewing my Animu pillows and MLP plushies as I type this.
Sho Nuff approves of 2D metroid games. THey're pretty fucken good
I had no idea pressing B makes Samus run faster. So when I reached an apparently infamous bridge and asked on Miiverse, some bitch ass ninthing (who's probably a brony too) noob-trolled me. Fuck you. :lol
Fuck, I really want a proper Zero Mission remake of Metroid 2.
I can't think of what bridge that is. I hold B in every Nintendo game lol.
I love the shit out of Symphony, but Super Metroid is better. Symphony throws more quantity into the mix, but the quality of it all is very uneven compared to Super Metroid.
For me, I go Super Metroid, Symphony, Zero Mission, Aria, then the rest of both series as you like so long as Harmony of Dissonance and Metroid 2 are at the bottom.
Fuck, I really want a proper Zero Mission remake of Metroid 2.
Nintendo Direct Tomorrow - May 17th
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I can't think of what bridge that is. I hold B in every Nintendo game lol.
Super Metroid > Aria > SOTN
Nintendo Direct Tomorrow - May 17th:lol :lol :lol
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And on Eternal Darkness, there's a lot I like about it; sanity effects and and different characters/era. But actually playing it ruins all that.
http://kotaku.com/ea-has-no-games-in-development-for-nintendos-wii-u-507588994 (http://kotaku.com/ea-has-no-games-in-development-for-nintendos-wii-u-507588994)EA has showed twice as much support for the Wii U than Nintendo.
EA isn't making anything for Weeoo
It's okay we don't need them anyway
I'm having fun with Super Metroid, it's a good game... but I have to admit that I'm still a little bit disappointed by some of its aspects. I don't know what's wrong with me or why it's not clicking as much as I was hoping. :'(
I mean, I acknowledge the game's feats, from the freedom, the secrets, all the way to sequence breaking as Positive put it. However, I'm still not satisfied with how Samus controls, especially weapons. The enemies have been blah so far, boring in both design and behavior. The levels are still not stimulating from both a visual and a design standpoint, not to mention too cramped (though one might argue the claustrophobic nature is intentional).
It probably comes down to my expectations, not how high or low, but being in the wrong category. The game is known for speedruns, so I'm sure with enough time and practice things *will* click and the experience will flow so much better and smoother.
In the meantime though, appreciation for SotN have grown tremendously now that I'm able to discern what it copied and what brought* to the table.
*Using "brought" loosely here, since it heavily borrowed from previous CV games.
EA has showed twice as much support for the Wii U than Nintendo.
Mass Effect 3: Special Edition
Need for Speed: Most Wanted U
FIFA Soccer 13
Madden NFL 13
v.
New Super Mario Bros. U
Nintendo Land
those were already released.
not that anyone noticed.
those were already released.
not that anyone noticed.
They should have replaced Mark Sanchez with Mario in Madden U.
gaf dead
what was the announcement?
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what was the announcement?
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what was the announcement?
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what was the announcement?
Wasn't there a Nintendo Direct happening today?
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what was the announcement?
Wasn't there a Nintendo Direct happening today?
it's happening right now
http://www.allgamesbeta.com/2013/05/nintendo-direct-live-streams.html
Best Buy is now the Nintendo retailer of choice
Best Buy is now the Nintendo retailer of choice
Best Buy is now the Nintendo retailer of choice
two sinking ships. perfect :lol
http://www.destructoid.com/wii-u-owners-don-t-know-how-to-play-super-metroid-253895.phtml
what was reggie talking about with best buy? i had my audio off.
i thought they were gonna talk about 3DS?
I'm just going to skip going to e3 and just visit the Best Buy near my hotel
edit: wait sonic is exclusive to Nintendo? :rofl
The new game is. Another Colors situation.
I supported your fucking games on my Genesis, on my Dreamcast, on my PS2 and now on my PS3. And now you're gonna kick me in the balls by slowly turning Sonic into a Nintendo IP. Well, thanks, SEGA.
I'm just going to skip going to e3 and just visit the Best Buy near my hotel
edit: wait sonic is exclusive to Nintendo? :rofl
The new game is. Another Colors situation.
I'm confused. Sonic isn't exclusive; this sonic world game is, right? Similar to those two or three crummy exclusive wii sonic games.
I'm confused. Sonic isn't exclusive; this sonic world game is, right? Similar to those two or three crummy exclusive wii sonic games.
It sounded like Nintendo have some partnership with Sega regarding Sonic for a period of time to me. Not surprised that I was wrong, though.
So Nintendo is not really involved, its just an exclusive? Fine. Another game that's probably going to suck and on the shittiest system possible. Sega are idiots for this.
two sinking ships. perfect :lol
EDIT: Sonic Colours is SEVERELY overrated by furfags. It was a 6/10 at best when all is said and done.
Sega says it will exclusively release the next three games starring the popular blue critter on Nintendo platforms. The first title will be called "Sonic Lost World" and is set for release on the Wii U and Nintendo 3DS later this year.
The new agreement will make Nintendo consoles the number one destination for Sonic gaming over the next three titles with more details of the individual games being revealed in the coming weeks.
"Sonic the Hedgehog has proven incredibly successful on Nintendo platforms and we are pleased to continue our long-standing relationship with Nintendo," said John Cheng, President & COO, SEGA of America. "As we initiate this new exclusive partnership with the next three titles we believe that Wii U(TM) and Nintendo 3DS(TM) are ideal platforms to showcase the evolution of the Sonic brand."
Port of Yakuza 1/2 HD
I, uh, I have no idea what anyone involved is thinking
No Fifa 14 for U
But EA has pulled out of the Wii U because sales of both hardware and software are dreadful. We're not officially allowed to report sales numbers from Chart Track in the UK but everyone in the publishing business can see them quite clearly. There's no need for pretence. When you can get to number one in the Wii U charts by selling less than 1000 units it's no longer a tragedy, it's an actual farce.http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-05-17-nintendo-wii-u-death-by-apathy
What the hell is the point of buying exclusive Sonic content from a business perspective? Sonic games traditionally sell better on Nintendo systems. So Nintendo is overspending for something that will sell well on their system regardless, and Sega is limiting their sales to one console. It doesn't make sense for either party. The parents who buy Sonic shit buy it on the cheapest system - ie Nintendo systems.
I thought Nintendo was going to tease or show something to distract from the sales numbers, without spoiling their E3/ND plans. Guess not LOL, even Ntards aren't spinning this at GAF
There's also today's announcement that Sega is handing publishing duties of Sonic the Hedgehog over to Nintendo, like Sonic the Hedgehog still means something to the games player. It doesn't, it's a tired old mascot who jumped the shark when Sega painted him black and gave him a gun. This deal is Sega begrudgingly admitting it can no longer market and sell kids games, and its last hope in a world of Moshi Monsters and Angry Birds is Nintendo. And if Nintendo can't sell another company's mascot, well, Sega is now prioritizing PC gaming anyway.
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-05-17-nintendo-wii-u-death-by-apathy
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-05-17-nintendo-wii-u-death-by-apathy
What the hell is the point of buying exclusive Sonic content from a business perspective? Sonic games traditionally sell better on Nintendo systems. So Nintendo is overspending for something that will sell well on their system regardless, and Sega is limiting their sales to one console. It doesn't make sense for either party. The parents who buy Sonic shit buy it on the cheapest system - ie Nintendo systems.
I thought Nintendo was going to tease or show something to distract from the sales numbers, without spoiling their E3/ND plans. Guess not LOL, even Ntards aren't spinning this at GAFQuoteThere's also today's announcement that Sega is handing publishing duties of Sonic the Hedgehog over to Nintendo, like Sonic the Hedgehog still means something to the games player. It doesn't, it's a tired old mascot who jumped the shark when Sega painted him black and gave him a gun. This deal is Sega begrudgingly admitting it can no longer market and sell kids games, and its last hope in a world of Moshi Monsters and Angry Birds is Nintendo. And if Nintendo can't sell another company's mascot, well, Sega is now prioritizing PC gaming anyway.
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-05-17-nintendo-wii-u-death-by-apathy
Brutal :(
New Sonic for WiiU/3DS
Port of Yakuza 1/2 HD
I, uh, I have no idea what anyone involved is thinking
Yakuza 1+2 HD remakes WHAT
WHAT ARE THEY DOING
WHY WOULD YOU
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
edit: Gaf sez
"And those game still are miles ahead of 90% of what you see released today
All over my fucking face YES"
The WiiU is crap. Less powerful than an XBOX360. Poor online/store. Weird tablet. Nintendo are walking dead at this point.
Nintendo are still operating like it's 1990. They should have "done a Sega" and offered Mario/Zelda as PS4/Durango exclusives.
It is an utterly intentional decision to focus our resources on markets which actually matter ... like mobile, and Gen4.
One more :-). Nintendo platforms have always been very poor revenue-wise for third parties. Only Mario and Zelda make money.
https://twitter.com/TiLMEN/status/335484395202965505
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Probably. He sure looks like he sweats a lot.https://twitter.com/TiLMEN/status/335484395202965505
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Nice WiiFit headband there. I wonder if that game's ever gotten any use.
https://twitter.com/TiLMEN/status/335484395202965505
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Nice WiiFit headband there. I wonder if that game's ever gotten any use.
https://twitter.com/TiLMEN/status/335484395202965505
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https://twitter.com/TiLMEN/status/335484395202965505
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The tweet about third parties is incorrect (and kind of odd given Zumba Fitness was one of EA's most profitable console games this gen), I disagree that Nintendo should have gone third party, the other two tweets are a true dat.
But the real story here is that another person working in the tech industry is going to get his ass fired for not knowing how social media works. I have no idea how this keeps happening.
SotN > Super Metroid > Aria >>>>>>>>>>> Zero Mission
I wish I had a legit way of playing Aria again. Right now I'm on a Metroidvania high so much that I ordered Order of Ecclesia. It's the only DS IGAvania I pirated, and was lazy enough to hack halfway through to avoid grinding. It's time to give it real chance.
I wish I had a legit way of playing Aria again. Right now I'm on a Metroidvania high so much that I ordered Order of Ecclesia. It's the only DS IGAvania I pirated, and was lazy enough to hack halfway through to avoid grinding. It's time to give it real chance.
havent played metroid 2 since it came out but all i remember is going "FUCK IM BACK HERE AGAIN" about 10000 times
The tweet about third parties is incorrect (and kind of odd given Zumba Fitness was one of EA's most profitable console games this gen), I disagree that Nintendo should have gone third party, the other two tweets are a true dat.
But the real story here is that another person working in the tech industry is going to get his ass fired for not knowing how social media works. I have no idea how this keeps happening.
I can't see him getting fired. The tweets are gone, and what he was saying was essentially mirroring the company line really... well, the non-public one
It'd be interesting if the guys who broke the tweet story caught any flack themselves though...
I wish I had a legit way of playing Aria again. Right now I'm on a Metroidvania high so much that I ordered Order of Ecclesia. It's the only DS IGAvania I pirated, and was lazy enough to hack halfway through to avoid grinding. It's time to give it real chance.
Circle of the Moon. I always forget that one existed.
Castlevania 1, 3, Rondo and Chronicles are so good. Like, super great. Symphony of the Night ruined everything. :'(
:piss IGAvania :piss2
Circle of the Moon. I always forget that one existed.
Castlevania 1, 3, Rondo and Chronicles are so good. Like, super great. Symphony of the Night ruined everything. :'(
:piss IGAvania :piss2
Circle of the Moon. I always forget that one existed.
ever play it on the original GBA? you needed two lamps behind you to see what was happening. I've always assumed that's why Harmony is a neon nightmare.Castlevania 1, 3, Rondo and Chronicles are so good. Like, super great. Symphony of the Night ruined everything. :'(
:piss IGAvania :piss2
off topic, but you should check out Castlevania Rebirth on the Wii. It's the last old style Castlevania made.
Castlevania 1, 3, Rondo and Chronicles are so good. Like, super great. Symphony of the Night ruined everything. :'(
:piss IGAvania :piss2
+ Bloodlines. But yeah, OoE is probably my favorite Igavania because it's the least Metroid-like. The rest of the ones I played were decent enough though, except for Portrait of Ruin which I hated.
This reminds me that I haven't continued playing Dracula X Chronicle's version of Rondo of Blood.
Which brings me to another question: Dialog alterations aside, was the SotN that was packaged with that game worse than the ROM dump available on PSN? I own both, but tried neither.
Seriously. You distinguished black fellows better bought the sp.
This reminds me that I haven't continued playing Dracula X Chronicle's version of Rondo of Blood.
Which brings me to another question: Dialog alterations aside, was the SotN that was packaged with that game worse than the ROM dump available on PSN? I own both, but tried neither.
DXC sotn is the best version of sotn. It has the Saturn upgrades (new areas, Maria, music) on top of better graphics which was downgraded on Saturn. I don't like the 3d version of Rondo but the original is included so who cares.
Circle of Moon became a non-issue when you got a job and bought the SP.
Seriously. You distinguished black fellows better bought the sp.
I had the superior micro.
Awww, bummer. Well, for those who *did* play the Saturn version, were they substantial and good enough to be missed?
What the fuck. I just watched the entire nintendo direct to see the new sonic game and all I got was Mario and sonic at the Olympics? What gives? Did I miss something?
Yakuza for wii u? Fuck that. If I see Andrex with a Kiryu avatar I may snap. To support a series from day one and it to continuously bomb and then it gets ported over to another system and NOW you're interested? Why does that anger me? Fucking feels about video games.
That series you abandoned after two games? Yeah, you don't get to have feels about lack of support for RGG, my friend.
Seriously. You distinguished black fellows better bought the sp.
I had the superior micro.
Superior lmao.
Can't hear you over my SUPERIOR AGS-101. Pink.
http://i.imgur.com/jXd5FqV.jpg
And why is someone just telling me now that the dxc version doesn't have Saturn areas and enemies when I swear I went through entire areas I had never seen before in the psx version? I remeber people swearing it did have new content beyond Maria.
The tweet about third parties is incorrect (and kind of odd given Zumba Fitness was one of EA's most profitable console games this gen), I disagree that Nintendo should have gone third party, the other two tweets are a true dat.
But the real story here is that another person working in the tech industry is going to get his ass fired for not knowing how social media works. I have no idea how this keeps happening.
I can't see him getting fired. The tweets are gone, and what he was saying was essentially mirroring the company line really... well, the non-public one
It'd be interesting if the guys who broke the tweet story caught any flack themselves though...
i entered that post ID into origin and got free games
Radioheadrule83 on Miiverse:
(http://i.imgur.com/lZoGQh8.png)spoiler (click to show/hide)(http://i.imgur.com/34OgOjP.png)[close]
Come on breh. :lol
When approached by GamesIndustry International about whether the company may reevaluate its stance on devoting resources to a struggling platform, a spokesperson told us, "As with any new console, it takes some time to grow an established base. Ubisoft has a varied and high-quality line-up for Wii U, with more big titles on the way including Rayman Legends, Watch Dogs, Assassin's Creed IV Black Flag and Splinter Cell Blacklist. We're confident that this will help in continuing to attract gamers to the Wii U system and that Nintendo will take steps to ensure that the Wii U is successful in the market."http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-05-18-ubisoft-reaffirms-its-faith-in-nintendo?
:(
gif was sad bro
well, at least one thing that will never be console exclusive is fanboy tears
https://www.change.org/petitions/sega-stop-exclusive-partnership-with-nintendo (https://www.change.org/petitions/sega-stop-exclusive-partnership-with-nintendo)
good luck with that, furfags
To:
Sega
STOP Exclusive Partnership with Nintendo
Sonic fans who are not interested in have WiiU will miss at least 3 games!.
We respect your decision but we want you to please give us in the future Sonic Games for all plataforms!
Sincerely,
[Your name]
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Some good stuff lately
wowoowowowowow @ that radiohead shit. that's getting saved and will be posted every single time he makes a post in the future, what a little bitch.What's even sadder is that he suicided his GAF account on some moral crusade absolutely no one cared and instantly forgot about about thinking that he'd made a new home for himself here and now he'll be constantly be reminded about his little meltdown over another corporation saying mean things to his favourite one everytime he posts.
new super luigi u? god damn this new series is being wrung. Hope Waluigi is in it and does some proper thieving cunt shit like you know he can if only nintendo would let him stop playing tennis n shit for a moment.
well, at least one thing that will never be console exclusive is fanboy tears
https://www.change.org/petitions/sega-stop-exclusive-partnership-with-nintendo (https://www.change.org/petitions/sega-stop-exclusive-partnership-with-nintendo)
good luck with that, furfags
The "I don't really care anyway" card. Your multi paragraph posting history and a lifetime of being a butthurt ninthing say otherwise, breh.
(http://i.imgur.com/aMlBCom.gif)Oh wow, did that put down feel good Tom?
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I figured I'd try and start some public miiverse dissent akin to the Ubisoft backlash after the Rayman delay. I only care to the extent that this console I own might miss some cool games, to me its worth bitching a little about because of that... Even if it has no effect.
Life goes on gents, unfortunately you've allowed yourself the illusion that things like this have any significant meaning to me outside of times when I find myself bored.
I'm not sure why you think I would want to hide those posts, some of you horrendous shitfags waste way more time on vidya drama bullshit than me
Come at me quegs!
Of course such 'dilusional posts' weren't needed, but maybe some people here are so wrapped up in their own myopia they don't actually realise you could have been doing it for lols.
Did you need to take time out of your day here? Why so serious?
Maybe the forum is such a tiresome shit hole to read because YOU are a petulant baby yourself. It's infectious and it trickles down on the rest of us.
Enjoy your miiverse 'fame' while it lasts, maybe you should sell up before you drive your 'fans' away.
You've been on GAF since before 2004 under a couple of names and yet you're still just as bad: I'm out, the Bore is no fun to actually take part in with you in it, too many cunts.
Bye to everyone actually nice, people like Himu, hope your transition goes well etc. Do stay in touch. Everyone else: have fun having pointless back and forths with reaction fishing idiots and caring more about arguments than games.
The "I don't really care anyway" card. Your multi paragraph posting history and a lifetime of being a butthurt ninthing say otherwise, breh.
Being able to type more than a simpletons' cursory putdown, or create a strawman = butthurt
(http://i.imgur.com/b2Jet2s.gif)
caring more about arguments than games.
Fanboys are annoying but I haven't seen that poster in particular attacking anyone unprovoked. Is outrage at the outrage the best kind of outrage?
I figured I'd try and start some public miiverse dissent akin to the Ubisoft backlash after the Rayman delay. I only care to the extent that this console I own might miss some cool games, to me its worth bitching a little about because of that... Even if it has no effect.
Y'all are a bunch of vicious cunts. I had no idea I was handing you knives.I believe you, Gaius Cassius.
Being a wanker is worse than being combativeThis hurts my feelings, but I could have been born a combative wanker, so I guess I could be worse.
I figured I'd try and start some public miiverse dissent akin to the Ubisoft backlash after the Rayman delay. I only care to the extent that this console I own might miss some cool games, to me its worth bitching a little about because of that... Even if it has no effect.
Your anger should be directed at Nintendo for trying to sell a 16 gig Wii U tard-pack for the same price as a Xbox 360 with a 250 GB hard drive, two free games (such as Forza 4 and Skyrim), a headset, and access to a giant library of games. Nintendo's only selling points over the 360 or PS3 are the gimmick controller and Nintendo-developed games. The gimmick is a failure and the two Nintendo-developed games aren't system movers.
Y'all are a bunch of vicious cunts. I had no idea I was handing you knives.
They were the same over Dreamcast, even before it was clear it had failed; they abused their power to tilt the balance of power and damage consumer choice.
They were the same over Dreamcast, even before it was clear it had failed; they abused their power to tilt the balance of power and damage consumer choice.
this is some sad shit.
My gut feeling is that something happened between "unprecedented partnership" and now to create a strain, but that aside, awful software sales services perfectly well as the reason today if one apples Occam's Razor to the situation. As fun as it is to speculate about what drama may have unfolded, it's entirely unnecessary when piss poor software and hardware sales figures provide all the explanation one needs.
My gut feeling is that something happened between "unprecedented partnership" and now to create a strain, but that aside, awful software sales services perfectly well as the reason today if one apples Occam's Razor to the situation. As fun as it is to speculate about what drama may have unfolded, it's entirely unnecessary when piss poor software and hardware sales figures provide all the explanation one needs.
My gut feeling is that something happened between "unprecedented partnership" and now to create a strain, but that aside, awful software sales services perfectly well as the reason today if one apples Occam's Razor to the situation. As fun as it is to speculate about what drama may have unfolded, it's entirely unnecessary when piss poor software and hardware sales figures provide all the explanation one needs.
My guess is it has to do with one of two things: A) EA getting a better look at the closer to completion weeeeeeooooooooooo and realizing what a cluseterfuck it was or more likely B) wanting to be given the reins for Nintendo's online shit and getting slapped down in the end after some initial favorable overtures.
Those are really the only two things that make sense. And Nintendo is the fuck up in either situation, but I'm sure dear old rhr will explain otherwise.
My gut feeling is that something happened between "unprecedented partnership" and now to create a strain, but that aside, awful software sales services perfectly well as the reason today if one apples Occam's Razor to the situation. As fun as it is to speculate about what drama may have unfolded, it's entirely unnecessary when piss poor software and hardware sales figures provide all the explanation one needs.
My guess is it has to do with one of two things: A) EA getting a better look at the closer to completion weeeeeeooooooooooo and realizing what a cluseterfuck it was or more likely B) wanting to be given the reins for Nintendo's online shit and getting slapped down in the end after some initial favorable overtures.
Those are really the only two things that make sense. And Nintendo is the fuck up in either situation, but I'm sure dear old rhr will explain otherwise.
A. seems way more plausible. But hey, whatever helps you sleep at night.
(http://i.imgur.com/s9pb6Tj.jpg)
Y'all are a bunch of vicious cunts. I had no idea I was handing you knives.
come now
you had *some* idea
It's worse than you think, it's an 8GB tard pack. I don't disagree its not good value for most people, I just think there are industry politics as motive helping to drive EAs decision re: Nintendo. They were the same over Dreamcast, even before it was clear it had failed; they abused their power to tilt the balance of power and damage consumer choice.
My gut feeling is that something happened between "unprecedented partnership" and now to create a strain, but that aside, awful software sales services perfectly well as the reason today if one apples Occam's Razor to the situation. As fun as it is to speculate about what drama may have unfolded, it's entirely unnecessary when piss poor software and hardware sales figures provide all the explanation one needs.
My gut feeling is that something happened between "unprecedented partnership" and now to create a strain, but that aside, awful software sales services perfectly well as the reason today if one apples Occam's Razor to the situation. As fun as it is to speculate about what drama may have unfolded, it's entirely unnecessary when piss poor software and hardware sales figures provide all the explanation one needs.
Honestly, I think it's a lot simpler than that. With EA having their own set of problems, evidenced by decreasing their console output 70% and only keeping the safest bets (in their opinion) while shifting focus to mobiles. Not to mention having to deal with investors after disappointing financials caused by their console output missing targets, and prepping to Pluto their CEO. They did some market research and took a serious look at it.
I'm sure that even before the Wii U launched, it was easy to conclude that their demographic (for the games they decided to stick with) is just not there. And with them playing it really safe, they predicted poor ROI. As Oscar stated, their foray into the Wii market netted them success in the casual space. And with them moving that output wholly to smartphones/tablets (with good results), it was even easier for them to decide on the fate of their Wii U portfolio.
People keep saying "well that doesn't explain why they phoned in Fifa and Madden! They could have at least avoided porting the 2012 games!" But I think that's indicative of how early the picture was clear to them.
I'm not going to deny the possibility of some politics behind it, but it's nowhere as significant as these babbies think. It's mostly business. Nintendo had close to 18 months to stimulate interest one way or the other, starting with the "unprecedented partnership" E3, but they couldn't. A company with EA's problems thought it wasn't worth the risk, and certainly not enough to honor a stupid phrase that the kids won't drop lol. I'm sure the execs are looking at the recent HW and SW numbers and thinking boy did we dodge a bullet there!
P.S. I think the story about the Origin deal that fell through, the one with the telenovela tone that circulated reddit is a crock of shit. But that's just me.
Oh wow, did that put down feel good Tom?
Of course such 'delusional posts' weren't needed, but maybe some people here are so wrapped up in their own myopia they don't actually realise you could have been doing it for lols.
Did you need to take time out of your day here? Why so serious?
Maybe the forum is such a tiresome shit hole to read because YOU are a petulant baby yourself. It's infectious and it trickles down on the rest of us.
Enjoy your miiverse 'fame' while it lasts, maybe you should sell up before you drive your 'fans' away.
You've been on GAF since before 2004 under a couple of names and yet you're still just as bad: I'm out, the Bore is no fun to actually take part in with you in it, too many cunts.
Bye to everyone actually nice, people like Himu, hope your transition goes well etc. Do stay in touch. Everyone else: have fun having pointless back and forths with reaction fishing idiots and caring more about arguments than games.
It smacks of a strategic choice to me. I think they are either making good on a threat, or they do actually want to see Nintendo do a SEGA. I can't see it being the latter, as a third party Nintendo would almost certainly become a major threat to someone like EA.
Not even putting out games that are going to Vita
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You really think Sony's in a position to make those kinds of demands this time? And if so, where are the Vita games from Bethesda and Rockstar?
I don't know why people have a hard time buying EA doing something like this. Yeah, it sounds like silly TV drama, but again - EA does this shit fairly often.
To me, the problem with a theory based solely on sales and no politics is that EA still has Vita stuff coming out. Software sales on Vita are just as bad as WiiU, and the machine's prospects are equally dim.
The poor sales explanation carries us most of the way, but there's still a logic gap that needs to be filled with something. And as Radiohead correctly pointed out, it's not as though has historically clean hands as far as politics goes. That shit with the Dreamcast is just one of at least a dozen known instances of EA trying to leverage their clout for favourable terms, and one of at least a few known instances where when they didn't get their way, they took their ball and went home.
To me, the problem with a theory based solely on sales and no politics is that EA still has Vita stuff coming out. Software sales on Vita are just as bad as WiiU, and the machine's prospects are equally dim.
The poor sales explanation carries us most of the way, but there's still a logic gap that needs to be filled with something. And as Radiohead correctly pointed out, it's not as though has historically clean hands as far as politics goes. That shit with the Dreamcast is just one of at least a dozen known instances of EA trying to leverage their clout for favourable terms, and one of at least a few known instances where when they didn't get their way, they took their ball and went home.
To me, the problem with a theory based solely on sales and no politics is that EA still has Vita stuff coming out. Software sales on Vita are just as bad as WiiU, and the machine's prospects are equally dim.
The poor sales explanation carries us most of the way, but there's still a logic gap that needs to be filled with something. And as Radiohead correctly pointed out, it's not as though has historically clean hands as far as politics goes. That shit with the Dreamcast is just one of at least a dozen known instances of EA trying to leverage their clout for favourable terms, and one of at least a few known instances where when they didn't get their way, they took their ball and went home.
Does EA have anything at all coming for Vita, besides FIFA?
Also, Zumba Fitness is Majesco. Perhaps you're thinking EA Sports Active?
officially announced? I suppose not, but they're definitely doing a couple of entirely unexciting things.
Hey guys, you should check out this Nintard jackass: http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=559514
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Hey guys, you should check out this Nintard jackass: http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=559514
Hey guys, you should check out this Nintard jackass: http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=559514
So glad we kicked that Arab fruit out of here!
Hey guys, you should check out this Nintard jackass: http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=559514
So glad we kicked that Arab fruit out of here!
Uh, I hope there's a joke here I'm missing.
Hey guys, you should check out this Nintard jackass: http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=559514
So glad we kicked that Arab fruit out of here!
Uh, I hope there's a joke here I'm missing.
(http://i.imgur.com/m3siEoZ.gif)Hey guys, you should check out this Nintard jackass: http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=559514
So glad we kicked that Arab fruit out of here!
Uh, I hope there's a joke here I'm missing.
Maybe you should report me, I've been a bad boy and the mods need to punish me :hump
Lets just all calm down and use the report button so that we may continue politely discussing the WiiU.
Reported.
That picture would be more accurate today if all three were starving.
I had never seen this before...
Super Metroid powered by google maps?
http://gromba.nl/metroid/?map=supermetroid (http://"http://gromba.nl/metroid/?map=supermetroid")
Looks like it works for all the 2d Metroids.
Huh?! How so?
if you care about the plastic wrapper on your video games you are a lost cause.
Considering how badly the other 2 went i am feeling really confident of Nintendo doing well in the holidays, Iwatas job is safe imo.
you should have put a little dot on the side of the plastic with a magic marker.
looks like regular DS shrinkwrap to me.
guess you'll find out when you open it!
Kill yourself.
Kill yourself.
Kill yourself.
andy's transition to the dark side is almost complete
andy's transition to the dark side is almost complete
There is still good in him
But where's the whimsy?andy's transition to the dark side is almost complete
There is still good in him
dark andrex risesDoes that mean androx is now the light side one?
But where's the whimsy?andy's transition to the dark side is almost complete
There is still good in him
provided Sony don't bend over and shove a studded dildo covered in razor wire up their arse, and avoid a $599 situation -- their hype machine could see them do best easily this holiday.
Yes, we need less STEM in schools so people can more successfully argue consoles on the internet.
:picard
typical gaf/internet bullshit where one suddenly becomes totally awesome because the other one totally sucks
this is why critical thinking skills are more important to teach from a young age than STEM-related things
The thinking that because one console is failing another one has o succeed is amazing. We're probably looking at a situation where none of them succeed. It's going to be glorious.
maybe inceasing the clocks on the CPU has done that.
Honestly i have no idea
Why would the update make working things unstable?It wouldn't when the console was plagued by WiFi "instability" since day 1.
Kill yourself.
Why are you using the Wii U's apps instead of the other alternatives? Is the user interface better?
does it count as a dcharlie kiss of death if the body is already cold?
Why are you using the Wii U's apps instead of the other alternatives? Is the user interface better?
It's too late by that point. The only people who are going to continue to support Wii U are the ones who were always gonna support it no matter what: ninthings and people with more money than sense.Don't forget Platinum Games fanboys. (although honestly I'm not paying more than $199 for a Wii U)
people with more money than sense.:xbone
Honestly i have no idea. Why would the update make working things unstable?
Why are you using the Wii U's apps instead of the other alternatives? Is the user interface better?
All of that shit is gonna be shown and be what... six months off AT BEST.
It's too late by that point. The only people who are going to continue to support Wii U are the ones who were always gonna support it no matter what: ninthings and people with more money than sense.
This is pissing me off. The past couple of updates seem to have made the Wii U less and less stable. Now it is back to the shitty first few weeks I had it where it was a roll of the dice to see if I can get Netflix up and running. All I want to do after a long day's work is flop on the couch and watch an episode of Law and Order SVU. Is this too much to ask? Apparently the answer in the eyes of Nintendo is "yes." Maybe the Xbox One reveal was so shitty that Nintendo felt confident they could fuck around with the Wii U stability again. I wouldn't put it past them.
How to log out of the Netflix apps across all devices;
- Go to the Netflix website on your pc/mac
- Click on the "My Account" link in the top right of the page.
- Under the "Your Streaming Plan" Click "Manage Devices and computers"
- Click the "Disconnect Devices button" - this will disconnect all of your devices (except iPhone and iPad) and you will have to sign in again on each device.
Perhaps due to the negative reception of the Xbox One, Wii U sales have seen a huge sales increase on Amazon UK.
Prior to Microsoft’s announcement, the Wii U was slumping at the 390th position. It has since climbed to the 40th position with an 875 percent increase.
Are the boost in Wii U sales related to the Xbox One? I’m not ready to draw any conclusions, but the significant increase is certainly interesting.
I'm guessing the short term price cut was 99% of it?
I saw someone say "After the terrible X1 presentation and the -price cut- , WiiU sales have went up on Amazon"
yeah - people who were GOING to buy an X1 now aren't and are, instead, going to buy a Wii U.
I'm guessing the short term price cut was 99% of it?
I saw someone say "After the terrible X1 presentation and the -price cut- , WiiU sales have went up on Amazon"
yeah - people who were GOING to buy an X1 now aren't and are, instead, going to buy a Wii U.
I'm guessing the short term price cut was 99% of it?
yeah, who the hell watches a presentation on a new console, then gets so emotional and pissed off that they buy the competitor's product just on principle or some shit?
besides a few hardcore gaftards.
wow, amazon rankings, those are certainly valid predictors
welcome aboard Cloving
More Lakers fans :gloomy
Any Ninten GAF regulars here?No, not really. There are a few Nintendo fans but they're not active.
Any Ninten GAF regulars here?No, not really. There are a few Nintendo fans but they're not active.
You guys should play the long con pretending to be even handed discussion more if you want to have fanboys to troll. I'd probably visit more often and like, argue with effort and PASSION, if I felt like everyone wasn't purposefully obtuse around here most of the time.
Count me in with those disliking purposeful obtuseness.
that video is eleven minutes and forty-one seconds long. WHY.
Fuck it.
Bought a Wii U. Bought the Lego game.
Err... :bow Lego City Undercover :bow2
It's, umm, good. Yeah, quite enjoying it. Funny dialog sprinkled throughout. OCDing the Lego "coins." Why you gotta reappear? Ugh.
trolling without anyone around to troll is just regular shit talking. this is just the wiiu shit talk thread. Notice 3DS threads are just fine, cause that system has a future.
32GB premium package WiiU + Nintendoland = $100 in a 'clearance sale' 'while stock last' here today. People are all like YOU GOTTA GO FAST MAN I'm like 'It's a fucking WiiU I'll stroll into the shop 5 minutes from closing and pick up one of the 100 still on the shelves' :lol
In other news, I may get a WiiU today.
My top 2 Wii U pick are a 3DS game and a SNES game. :fbm
I'm more excited by the Nyko Gamepad battery than any actual Wii U games.
32GB premium package WiiU + Nintendoland = $100 in a 'clearance sale' 'while stock last' here today. People are all like YOU GOTTA GO FAST MAN I'm like 'It's a fucking WiiU I'll stroll into the shop 5 minutes from closing and pick up one of the 100 still on the shelves' :lolTake a pic or you'll be branded a liar in addition to a weird anime loving foreigner with shit taste.
In other news, I may get a WiiU today.
(http://i.imgur.com/WTvKSgY.jpg)
I'll probably be buying one of these next week :-\
goddamn this ninfaggery of mine
Where is this? I'd pick up one for a hundred bucks.
Take a pic or you'll be branded a liar in addition to a weird anime loving foreigner with shit taste.
he's from seeth eefreeka, so it's probably a bit of a walk
I will buy one of those as soon as I see a new 3D Mario or Zelda game announced.I'm more excited by the Nyko Gamepad battery than any actual Wii U games.
I just got mine yesterday. :-[
Well the Nyko battery is a piece of shit. Avoid.
spoiler (click to show/hide)also I have some gift cards and gamestop credit[close]
Got an email, company-wide all WiiU are being recalled.
Finally Nintendo gets it that no one wanted that pos.
200 without game or 250 with a game that's not shit aka not nintendo land.
200 without game or 250 with a game that's not shit aka not nintendo land.
If something's going to be packed-in, Nintendo Land would be the best choice. It's not something I think anyone should buy for full price, but it is a pretty good demonstration of what the pad can do, and it's something fun for families who buy the thing as a Christmas present without any other games. I think $250 with NintendoLand would be, I dunno, a good-ish offer? I don't know that it would help much in terms of making the WiiU big, but it would at least chart us back into Gamecube waters saleswise, probably.
hunh. if that's what you were trying to get at, you kind of suck at getting at your points. you should probably take a class or something.
I have it on my phone thanks
I think it was free on iOS for a while.
$10 on a $350 platform? :lol
The iPhone version is the worst version. Mutant Mudds is pretty hard and even as someone fairly acceptant of touch controlled platformers, it really doesn't turn out well with Mudds. Yeah, game was free/99 cents, but if you can't even get through half the game, it's not worth much.
I have it on 3DS and iPhone. Not really down with buying the game again, even if it's a deluxe version. I guess, like the 3DS version was at the time it was released, it's a nice enough game for people without much else to play.
I have it on my phone thanks
I think it was free on iOS for a while.
$10 on a $350 platform? :lol
The iPhone version is the worst version. Mutant Mudds is pretty hard and even as someone fairly acceptant of touch controlled platformers, it really doesn't turn out well with Mudds. Yeah, game was free/99 cents, but if you can't even get through half the game, it's not worth much.
I have it on 3DS and iPhone. Not really down with buying the game again, even if it's a deluxe version. I guess, like the 3DS version was at the time it was released, it's a nice enough game for people without much else to play.
Yeah its not easy, but I get bored with this kind of game within an hour anyway. Also Im pretty sure you can hook a controller to android devices.
Wait, Luigi U adds Protroller support? :bow DLC of the forever. :bow2 Nintendo actually getting with it.
Now if they could also throw the CPP some bones... :-\
TBH the tilt level thing actually sounded like a reasonable excuse on some level, but what pissed me off about it is that it was literally in two levels in the entire game. As if Nintendo put them in just so they could make that excuse of not supporting the Pro controller.
Glad they came to their sense though.
TBH the tilt level thing actually sounded like a reasonable excuse on some level, but what pissed me off about it is that it was literally in two levels in the entire game. As if Nintendo put them in just so they could make that excuse of not supporting the Pro controller.
Glad they came to their sense though.
It always sounded like lazy bullshit to me. It's a barely used mechanic, and even if it's not ideal, some combination of dual analog and/or utilizing the shoulder buttons would allow for that sequence to work. If the whole game centered around tilting platforms, I'd buy it. But as is, it was just nonsense that I can't believe idiotic fans defended.
There were a few titles last gen where I was actually impressed that Nintendo accommodated practically every controller combination under the sun. Games like Brawl and Mario Kart come to mind, where they allowed WiiMote, WiiMote +Nunchuck, WiiMote + Classic Controller, and Gamecube controllers as possibilities. It was appreciated that they made it as easy as possible to facilitate multiplayer with everyone's preferred controller interface. But with New Super Mario? No. Fuck you. WiiMotes or bust.
Enough of smash idiots. Fuck off. http://twilog.org/PG_kamiya/search?word=smash&ao=a … RT @Cruz9488: Bayonetta in Smash Bros 4?
https://twitter.com/PG_kamiya/status/342659881695858689QuoteEnough of smash idiots. Fuck off. http://twilog.org/PG_kamiya/search?word=smash&ao=a … RT @Cruz9488: Bayonetta in Smash Bros 4?
:bow Kamiya :bow2
and from now on, nintendo fans will hate anything and everything he does and says
No Wii U version - 2K Sports will not publish NBA 2K14 for Wii U. "We are not doing a Wii U version this year," Argent said. "The decision was made internally that our resources would be best put toward making a really amazing current-generation and next generation game, and we did not want to take resources away from making a great experience on those platforms.
I have an announcement. During the Nintendo Direct to be broadcast from 11PM on the night of June 11th, the first trailer of the new entry in the 'Super Smash Bros." series will be broadcast. For the first time, simultaneously across the world! Do not miss it.
Hey Andrex, I love Brawl too. Would you ever want to play online sometime?
I'd play the Wii U one with you, Andrex, but you never accepted my friend invite :-\spoiler (click to show/hide)or I sent it incorrectly. It's confusing.[close]
I'd play the Wii U one with you, Andrex, but you never accepted my friend invite :-\spoiler (click to show/hide)or I sent it incorrectly. It's confusing.[close]
Are we even friends yet? What's your ID?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BMRDxa_CEAApjtI.jpg:large)
First Yuji Naka, now Miyamoto :'(
Yuji's a nice guy if you aren't working with/for him. Miyamoto's a big spoiled brat. He's been treated like God his whole life, to predictable effect.
Also fuck you Oscar, I'll throw anyone else from Nintendo under the bus but Miyamoto has fucking earned his keep. This isn't like fucking Stan Lee or Inafune where they were bringing the actual guys making the stuff coffee but then took all the credit years later, the guy legitimately has a fantastic intuition for fun game design and put Nintendo on the fucking map.
(in before Wii Music)
First Yuji Naka, now Miyamoto :'(
Yuji's a nice guy if you aren't working with/for him. Miyamoto's a big spoiled brat. He's been treated like God his whole life, to predictable effect.
Oh well now that Damian is asking I guess I'll reveal how I know.
Oh god, I've stuck a fork in the sacred cow. Grow up, guys. Your heroes are all assholes like every other successful person.
So you never actually met him in person?
Once. He was in a shitty mood from the moron before me though, so I don't hold it against him.
Why does that matter? You can make a judgement based on multiple sources.
Hey guys Ken Levine is a closet pedo but I can't say how I know this
YOU'LL JUST HAVE TO TRUST ME OK
Why does that matter? You can make a judgement based on multiple sources.
I would not consider that a correctly informed judgment, certainly not one to peddle as fact on message boards.
Why does that matter? You can make a judgement based on multiple sources.
I would not consider that a correctly informed judgment, certainly not one to peddle as fact on message boards.
"X is a jerk" is always an opinion.
I have a feeling they wont be showing "X" from Monolithsoft, I really hope I am wrong in that regard.
Wait, what?Why does that matter? You can make a judgement based on multiple sources.
I would not consider that a correctly informed judgment, certainly not one to peddle as fact on message boards.
"X is a jerk" is always an opinion.
That's a circular and pointless argument.
Oscar told me in real life that his post was fact but I can't tell you how I know thisI don't understand why this is such a problem for you. What reason does Oscar have for lying (other than rustling your jimmies because you take the bait every time)? I'm not against giving Oscar some shit every once in a while, the plate ought to be passed to everyone, but when you deliver your criticisms this sloppily, it just makes you seem like an obnoxious child.
YOU'LL JUST HAVE TO TRUST ME OK
[I would not consider that a correctly informed judgment, certainly not one to peddle as fact on message boards.because a sad, old splinter board of an even sadder, diseased one is totally the place one expects to find "facts" being "peddled" ::)
Andrex back to his shitty old self again. Get lost from this forum for another 6 months, maybe it will do you good. And no I won't make another "PLEASE COME BACK!" thread. You had your chance, punk. :pacspit
Andrex back to his shitty old self again. Get lost from this forum for another 6 months, maybe it will do you good. And no I won't make another "PLEASE COME BACK!" thread. You had your chance, punk. :pacspit
tsun tsun means aloof or indifferent. this is a fact.
you want dere dere. this is my opinion.
I believe tsun tsun is the colloquialism for tsundere, Oscar-san.tsk tsk, here you go again, pretending that you know things you actually don't. Here, lemme Google that for you. (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=dere+dere)
God, you suck so bad Andrex.
I believe tsun tsun is the colloquialism for tsundere, Oscar-san.tsk tsk, here you go again, pretending that you know things you actually don't. Here, lemme Google that for you. (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=dere+dere)
Clearly not you.
Lock this thread, leper Andrex, ban Japan.
Andrex is always gonna be that yappy, high strung little dog that follows Oscar's bull mastiff around. Usually the mastiff tolerates the other dog's antics, but every once in a while he has to smack him down so the little guy knows his place.
If only we could run you off for six months. I could use a pole-free posting environment.
If only we could run you off for six months. I could use a pole-free posting environment.
:(
You fucking inconsiderate douche. They're called Indians.
Creepy you're trying too hard
Icon Raban.
Leper Andrex.
Send Triumph to Poland.
You fucking inconsiderate douche. They're called Indians.
Unless you're talking about Billy Corgan. :teeheeWhy does that matter? You can make a judgement based on multiple sources.
I would not consider that a correctly informed judgment, certainly not one to peddle as fact on message boards.
"X is a jerk" is always an opinion.
Fuck Billy Corgan. If I was allowed to steal someones talent and accomplishments completely to ruin them I would choose him without a moment's hesitation.
So much salt in here :lol :lol
Does it frustrate you knowing there is someone here with INSIDER info, Andy?
Oscar hurts me sometimes, but I know he doesn't mean it. :'(
Oscar hurts me sometimes, but I know he doesn't mean it. :'(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvQnIdrsKpo
Nintendo “making a big move” for indies, says Capybara
Nintendo is pulling out all the stops to bring independent games to the Wii U, according to Nathan Vella of Super Time Force, Sword & Sworcery and Critter Crunch developer Capybara Games.
“I’ve seen personally, first-hand, Nintendo making a big move to try and get smaller, unique, independent games on Wii U downloadable,” Vella told VG247.
“They have a really great team there; Dan Edelman who runs that division is one of the raddest dudes in video games, and I would say easily one of the most respected people by the independent community.
“Nintendo is reaching out and trying to do something. They’re playing catch up, obviously, and that’s a hard spot to be in when it comes to getting the new stuff, but they’re really putting in.”
For example, Vella said, there’s IGF Award winner Little Inferno, which first launched for Wii U before heading to other platforms.
Here comes the Bayo 2 armchair critics a year before the game is even out.
"I didn't even want it anyways! So take THAT Nintendo! :maf"
"I didn't even want it until it became a Nintendo game!"
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=588876
And Ninthings question why people refer to them as kiddies and manchildren... Here are the false gods you celebrate, heathens. Now suck my dick!
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=588876
And Ninthings question why people refer to them as kiddies and manchildren... Here are the false gods you celebrate, heathens. Now suck my dick!
Jesus tap dancing Christ, what the fuck is this?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/1003112_470136386404153_1337296196_n.jpg)
Nyan Super Meowio Bros.
That bargaining is just delicious.
I kind of want a Wii U because it doesn't have so many good games. (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=590386)
man i really don't care about skyrim, but i find myself hoping that's exactly the direction nintendo goes with zelda for some reason
I hate stuff like this, this cunt somehow equates skyrim's freedom and open world nature with Zelda 1,
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=63732791
Somehow forgetting that LOZ was a few dozen tile based 2d screens, while skyrim is a barren boring wasteland that feels like razor edged cocks being torturously spunky fucked and penetrated beneath your fingernails whenever you can't fast-travel and that the tombs, quests and dungeons are full of identikit enemies that encourage laborious grinding and boring weapon/armour augmentation/tweaking. I fucking hate that shit. Boring to play, ten times more boring to watch.
The only thing I'd maybe be OK with is the huge array of NPC characters. The way factions and characters remember the good and bad shit you do to them.
Other than that, I'd rather Aonuma personally bum rape me than go this route.
I hate stuff like this, this cunt somehow equates skyrim's freedom and open world nature with Zelda 1,
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=63732791
Somehow forgetting that LOZ was a few dozen tile based 2d screens, while skyrim is a barren boring wasteland that feels like razor edged cocks being torturously spunky fucked and penetrated beneath your fingernails whenever you can't fast-travel and that the tombs, quests and dungeons are full of identikit enemies that encourage laborious grinding and boring weapon/armour augmentation/tweaking. I fucking hate that shit. Boring to play, ten times more boring to watch.
The only thing I'd maybe be OK with is the huge array of NPC characters. The way factions and characters remember the good and bad shit you do to them.
Other than that, I'd rather Aonuma personally bum rape me than go this route.
I hate stuff like this, this cunt somehow equates skyrim's freedom and open world nature with Zelda 1,
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=63732791
Somehow forgetting that LOZ was a few dozen tile based 2d screens, while skyrim is a barren boring wasteland that feels like razor edged cocks being torturously spunky fucked and penetrated beneath your fingernails whenever you can't fast-travel and that the tombs, quests and dungeons are full of identikit enemies that encourage laborious grinding and boring weapon/armour augmentation/tweaking. I fucking hate that shit. Boring to play, ten times more boring to watch.
The only thing I'd maybe be OK with is the huge array of NPC characters. The way factions and characters remember the good and bad shit you do to them.
Other than that, I'd rather Aonuma personally bum rape me than go this route.
So it will be like TP. :teehee
hey. hey. he could be talking about any 3D zelda here, man.
I hate stuff like this, this cunt somehow equates skyrim's freedom and open world nature with Zelda 1,
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=63732791
Somehow forgetting that LOZ was a few dozen tile based 2d screens, while skyrim is a barren boring wasteland that feels like razor edged cocks being torturously spunky fucked and penetrated beneath your fingernails whenever you can't fast-travel and that the tombs, quests and dungeons are full of identikit enemies that encourage laborious grinding and boring weapon/armour augmentation/tweaking. I fucking hate that shit. Boring to play, ten times more boring to watch.
The only thing I'd maybe be OK with is the huge array of NPC characters. The way factions and characters remember the good and bad shit you do to them.
Other than that, I'd rather Aonuma personally bum rape me than go this route.
Nintendo could learn a lot from Bethesda. :jawalrus
Nintendo could learn a lot from Bethesda. :jawalrus
By making their games bloated and bug ridden ???
The touchscreen features seen in the Director's Cut version developed for the Wii U version will translate to Microsoft's SmartGlass app and the PlayStation Vita.
• Dragon Quest X: Rise of the Five Tribes Online [might not get localized]
• Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem [might not get localized]
Games I might pick up this year:
• Wii Fit U
• Wii Party U
I still haven't played the Wii versions and I want to see what all the fuss is about.
DQ10 is at least coming in Europe.
W101, Pikmin 3, Donkey Kong Country, Zelda WW HD and Mario 3DW are the most notable releases for the rest of the year. Unless you're silly enough to count Fit and Party as notable.
Personally I'm only gonna pick two of those. Prolly W101 and Mario, assuming they end up being good.
Wii party is for people with irl friends who don't play much games. Wii Fit is more about gaining balance control and posture. I did enjoy its yoga routines.
Make 3D World an ONLINE world. #Online3dWorld @Nintendo @NintendoUK @NintendoAmerica @NintendoEurope https://t.co/RjubmeWl34
lol
It's dumb, yes, but this is a decision made by the dudes in Japan. You'd have better odds petitioning Megan Fox for a blowjob.
(http://i.imgur.com/YnJoRnP.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/YnJoRnP.png)
"That's probably in the next-gen bin, but we're not actually talking about Wii U yet. 'Cause we want to keep it mysterious," he told GameSpot on stage at E3.
When we asked him about whether Call of Duty is coming to Wii U, however, he remarked, "Ha! You know that's funny, because I don't even know the answer to that. I swear to God, I don't. I was trying to say in the interview [that] I really don't know and I'm not supposed to talk about it. I'm not supposed to talk about the fact that I don't know."
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-06-17-call-of-duty-ghosts-not-necessarily-wii-u-bound
But if you buy it on the E-Shop, you're not gonna have any free space left on your Wii U!
See edit. They linked to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-50GjySwew
:kobeyuck
So, what's different about the Luigi game?
Sort of a remix of the last game then. I guess I might pick it up if I ever find it in a bargain bin.
"The big innovation with this game is that there is a cat suit"
I though the games looked fun.
I think the only time I've played a game for 11 hours a day is the week after a new Pokemon comes out.
I can't imagine I've put that much time into gaming in a row since I started to have serious responsibilities in life... so it was probably forever ago, and probably a Phantasy Star game. (OG series, not PSO, which sucks donkey balls)You sucks donkey balls. :maf
8 hours was my max. It happened twice, and both times I was playing MH games. :gloomy
I can't imagine I've put that much time into gaming in a row since I started to have serious responsibilities in life... so it was probably forever ago, and probably a Phantasy Star game. (OG series, not PSO, which sucks donkey balls)You sucks donkey balls. :maf
Huh? Looks pretty much the same with sometimes better framerate, but at the cost of responsiveness when it tanks, no mention of 1080 or 60fps anywhere:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-batman-arkham-city-wii-u-face-off
It hits 60fps indoors.Pretty sure it's just upscaling, not rendering at that resolution (pretty sure you have to specifically tell the 360 to output at 1080). Think of DF what you will, but they're not going to make a mistake like that without getting ripped to shreds.
All WiiU games run at 1080p. Digital Foundry is such a MS loving fansite they don't check unless it makes the Xbox look good. I just put my copy in the system to confirm, and it stays at 1080p (PS3/360 games switch the TV to 720p):
(http://i.imgur.com/Es0pvSb.jpg)
It hits 60fps indoors.Pretty sure it's just upscaling, not rendering at that resolution (pretty sure you have to specifically tell the 360 to output at 1080). Think of DF what you will, but they're not going to make a mistake like that without getting ripped to shreds.
All WiiU games run at 1080p. Digital Foundry is such a MS loving fansite they don't check unless it makes the Xbox look good. I just put my copy in the system to confirm, and it stays at 1080p (PS3/360 games switch the TV to 720p):
(http://i.imgur.com/Es0pvSb.jpg)
I think Rufus is saying it's scaled to 1080p after rendering.Yes.
I can't imagine I've put that much time into gaming in a row since I started to have serious responsibilities in life... so it was probably forever ago, and probably a Phantasy Star game. (OG series, not PSO, which sucks donkey balls)
Huh? Looks pretty much the same with sometimes better framerate, but at the cost of responsiveness when it tanks, no mention of 1080 or 60fps anywhere:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-batman-arkham-city-wii-u-face-off
It hits 60fps indoors.
All WiiU games run at 1080p. Digital Foundry is such a MS loving fansite they don't check unless it makes the Xbox look good. I just put my copy in the system to confirm, and it stays at 1080p (PS3/360 games switch the TV to 720p):
(http://i.imgur.com/Es0pvSb.jpg)
Even if you tell the 360, and PS3, to output at 1080p; it'll only output the dash/XMB at that resolution. The TV will still display the games at 720p.
WiiU
Assassin’s Creed 3 = 1280x720 (post-AA)
Batman: Arkham City Armoured Edition = 1280x720 (FXAA)
Carl on Duty: Black Ops 2 = 880x720 (2xAA)
Darksiders 2 = 1152x640 (post-AA)
Mass Effect 3: Conrad Edition = 1280x720 (FXAA)
Monster Hunter 3G HD = 1920x1080 (no AA)
Need For Speed: Most Wanted (2012) = 1280x704 (post-AA)
New Super Mario Bros. U = 1280x720 (no AA on world map, post-AA in-game)
Ninja Gaiden: Razor’s Edge = dynamic up to 1280x720 (dynamic 2xAA)
Rayman: Legends = 1920x1080 (no AA)
Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed = 1024x576 (post-AA)
ZombiU = 1280x720 (post-AA)
QuoteEven if you tell the 360, and PS3, to output at 1080p; it'll only output the dash/XMB at that resolution. The TV will still display the games at 720p.
:dead
360 dashboard is always rendered at 720p(native).360 output is whatever you set in settings(via gpu upscaling).PS3 is a different matter because its internal gpu scaler is broken in one dimension(must be done with software).
Modern 1080p TV output is always 1080p,no matter what you stick in it.
Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed = 1024x576 (post-AA)
It's a Nintendo game.
QuoteEven if you tell the 360, and PS3, to output at 1080p; it'll only output the dash/XMB at that resolution. The TV will still display the games at 720p.
:dead
360 dashboard is always rendered at 720p(native).360 output is whatever you set in settings(via gpu upscaling).PS3 is a different matter because its internal gpu scaler is broken in one dimension(must be done with software).
Modern 1080p TV output is always 1080p,no matter what you stick in it.
I have a 55" LED Bravia. When you play a 360 or PS3 game, it switches to 720; even if you have the system set to output to 1080p. Again, the dashboard will output 1080p, but the actual games output 720p.
HDMI or component?QuoteEven if you tell the 360, and PS3, to output at 1080p; it'll only output the dash/XMB at that resolution. The TV will still display the games at 720p.
:dead
360 dashboard is always rendered at 720p(native).360 output is whatever you set in settings(via gpu upscaling).PS3 is a different matter because its internal gpu scaler is broken in one dimension(must be done with software).
Modern 1080p TV output is always 1080p,no matter what you stick in it.
I have a 55" LED Bravia. When you play a 360 or PS3 game, it switches to 720; even if you have the system set to output to 1080p. Again, the dashboard will output 1080p, but the actual games output 720p.
Jesus Christ, I just watched this vid with cat suit Toad, and he is fucking adorable.
How in the fuck does Nintendo do it?!!?
HDMI or component?QuoteEven if you tell the 360, and PS3, to output at 1080p; it'll only output the dash/XMB at that resolution. The TV will still display the games at 720p.
:dead
360 dashboard is always rendered at 720p(native).360 output is whatever you set in settings(via gpu upscaling).PS3 is a different matter because its internal gpu scaler is broken in one dimension(must be done with software).
Modern 1080p TV output is always 1080p,no matter what you stick in it.
I have a 55" LED Bravia. When you play a 360 or PS3 game, it switches to 720; even if you have the system set to output to 1080p. Again, the dashboard will output 1080p, but the actual games output 720p.
Sounds like your TV doesn't like Xbox 1080p signal.Some TVs have that problem.
Set it to 720p and let TV do the rest,dashboard is 720p native anyway.PS3 on the other hand supports 1080p native xmb.
Jesus Christ, I just watched this vid with cat suit Toad, and he is fucking adorable.
How in the fuck does Nintendo do it?!!?
(http://i38.tinypic.com/2agp95d.jpg)
I seriously cannot help it. Cat suit is so cute!
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=66032011
THis gaffer agrees with me
:trash :banplz :trashJesus Christ, I just watched this vid with cat suit Toad, and he is fucking adorable.
How in the fuck does Nintendo do it?!!?
(http://i38.tinypic.com/2agp95d.jpg)
I seriously cannot help it. Cat suit is so cute!
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=66032011
THis gaffer agrees with me
Jesus Christ, I just watched this vid with cat suit Toad, and he is fucking adorable.
How in the fuck does Nintendo do it?!!?
(http://i38.tinypic.com/2agp95d.jpg)
I seriously cannot help it. Cat suit is so cute!
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=66032011
THis gaffer agrees with me
What is worse is is that it isnt even a woman who said that. It is some gaffer dude who thinks he understands women. :lol
I'm confused, why do you want online for 3D World?
I'm confused, why do you want online for 3D World?
People should be asking for a proper account system. It's wild that there isn't one in place.
Will there ever be a Japanese only Wii U game worth buying a JP system for? I doubt it.
Even 3DS hasn't had much (or anything) worth importing a JP system for.
Will there ever be a Japanese only Wii U game worth buying a JP system for? I doubt it.
Even 3DS hasn't had much (or anything) worth importing a JP system for.
Whelp, I'm done with the Wii U.
Now my Wii U won't recognize internet at all. Keep in mind that every other device in my apartment (PC, laptop, TV, 3DS, Vita, and iPhone) can pick up my Wifi signal just fine. It's the fucking Wii U, which is located closer to the Wifi than the TV. I wanted to watch some Arrested Development and couldn't. I did all kinds of things (re-entered information, unplugged it from the wall, turn off-turn on quickly, etc.) I was all "You know what, fuck this shit." I called up a cousin of mine who has a young family who lives in the middle of nowhere if they want it. They graciously said yes. So this weekend, I'm going to drop it off. Granted there are some mature games like Monster Hunter but they can throw those away if they want to.
It was just a Netflix box anyway, which my TV, PC, and laptop can handle just fine.
December 2012 - June 25, 2013
I would say it was fun but it wasn't. It was a symbol of how I have more money than sense and I hope that I'm more fiscally responsible in the future.
Sakurai on the level of customization in the game…
You can still manage the appearance of items, but you cannot disable the damage caused by the stages. If we propose such an option, it might as well be PlayStation all-stars!
Whelp, I'm done with the Wii U.
Now my Wii U won't recognize internet at all. Keep in mind that every other device in my apartment (PC, laptop, TV, 3DS, Vita, and iPhone) can pick up my Wifi signal just fine. It's the fucking Wii U, which is located closer to the Wifi than the TV. I wanted to watch some Arrested Development and couldn't. I did all kinds of things (re-entered information, unplugged it from the wall, turn off-turn on quickly, etc.) I was all "You know what, fuck this shit." I called up a cousin of mine who has a young family who lives in the middle of nowhere if they want it. They graciously said yes. So this weekend, I'm going to drop it off. Granted there are some mature games like Monster Hunter but they can throw those away if they want to.
It was just a Netflix box anyway, which my TV, PC, and laptop can handle just fine.
December 2012 - June 25, 2013
I would say it was fun but it wasn't. It was a symbol of how I have more money than sense and I hope that I'm more fiscally responsible in the future.
You could try going into your router settings and change the channel it's using. Nintendo recommends using either 1 or 11. Typically, the routers will use 6 by default, so if your router is set to channel 6, and you have a neighbor whose router is set to channel 6, they could be interfering with each other.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8avMLHvLwRQ
:rejoice
As first posted in January, Iwata mentioned his "commitment" to a business profit goal of ¥100 billion (US$ 1.1 billion) by the end of the next business year ending in March, 2014. When asked how he would take responsibility if Nintendo did not meet this mark, Iwata replied, "I ask that you understand my use of the word 'commitment.'"
Some in the Japanese media took Iwata's language to mean he would step down should Nintendo fail to reach the magic number.
At a recent investor's meeting, Iwata was asked directly if he would quit if Nintendo doesn't meet his previously stated target. So, will he?
"I don't recall saying I'd resign," Iwata replied. According to Nikkan Sports, the Nintendo honcho went on to say that the game maker should put tremendous effort into achieving its goal and not think about failure. Sounds like Iwata plans on sticking around!
He also released the Wii U, a product that isn't targeted to anyone.
One thing I don't understand is why Nintendo has rarely invested in developers that make games that don't compete with Nintendo's existing IPs.(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e0/Geistbox.jpg/256px-Geistbox.jpg)
One thing I don't understand is why Nintendo has rarely invested in developers that make games that don't compete with Nintendo's existing IPs.
Ubisoft?
You do know what do would rarely means, right?One thing I don't understand is why Nintendo has rarely invested in developers that make games that don't compete with Nintendo's existing IPs.
Bayo 2?
You do know what do would rarely means, right?One thing I don't understand is why Nintendo has rarely invested in developers that make games that don't compete with Nintendo's existing IPs.
Bayo 2?
And did they invest a single penny in Platinum?
He does deserve some time IMO. Casual game explosion, both Mario Galaxy games, improved approach to online, improved approach to indies, day and date midnight digital releases, a Nintendo social network, unifying of portable and home console R&D teams (for the generation after this)... he's done a lot that Yamauchi probably would have sneered at
spoiler (click to show/hide)Where is the reanimated corpse of Yamauchi to lay the pimp hand down? :shaq[close]
Yamauchi-sama is still alive you fucking dumbfucking piece of shit.
Iwata deserves all the criticism in the world IMO. Wii U is simply shit beyond shit.
DSM4 case study :heh
It was a shitty joke then.
Forgive this piece of shit's insolence, Yamauchi-sama :bow
Should be interesting. I wonder if either can break 100k in NA.
One thing I don't understand is why Nintendo has rarely invested in developers that make games that don't compete with Nintendo's existing IPs.
Complaint Denied: Nintendo loses dispute over WiiU.com domain name
In February, Nintendo of America filed a cybersquatting complaint against the owner of WiiU.com with the World Intellectual Property Organization, in what seemed like a slam dunk case for the video game company.
A decision in WIPO Case Number D2013-0322 was posted to WIPO’s website Saturday and Nintendo has lost.
The domain, which matches the name of Nintendo’s latest video game console the “Wii U”, will stay with its current owner.
Now, if the company wants to own WiiU.com, it may have to write a big check in order to acquire it.
fusible.com
How on earth did they lose that case?
How on earth did they lose that case?
I would say that both variety and popularity are important. Again, I understand the point that Donkey Kong Country Returns was Retro's most successful title. I'm not sure what the most recent LTD figure is for it, but I know it's sold at least 4 million, so I'm just going to go ahead and say it's probably around ~5 million, if not a little more. I'll happily correct this if someone has a better figure, but for now, I'll go with 5 million. That's a strong sales number.
So, why does anyone think going a different route might -- and I stress MIGHT -- have been a better play (whether we're talking about Metroid or something else)? I think the reason is because the system already launched with New Super Mario Bros. U, the sequel to a game that sold nearly 28 million copies. For fans of 2D platformers, another Donkey Kong Country game from Retro is great, and I'm legitimately happy for those of you out there that are thrilled that it's getting a sequel. But for those out there that thought that Retro's mystery project was going to be something different -- that it might have had a chance at really affecting the sales needle -- it feels like a missed opportunity.
You don't have to agree. You don't even have to care whether or not it's a legitimate system seller. It's perfectly fine to be thrilled that it's a game that will most likely be great and will perform well. However, my position in regards to reading sentiments that Donkey Kong is the obvious choice with no downside is to squint uncomfortably a bit and reluctantly argue that -- at this point in the Wii U's lifecycle -- they really could have used something different. Whether the current team at Retro could have handled a big title along the lines of a Metroid-type game, I think the Wii U could have used a title like that that Retro has historically proved capable of producing.
Alas, the situation is what it is. Donkey Kong will surely be a great game, and for those that care about sales figures, we'll just have to wait a while and see how the November figures shape up.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=612411
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=612411
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"There were so many games released by third party publishers for Wii U during the launch period, but most of them were converted from other platforms and therefore could not enjoy brisk sales," explained Iwata.
"As a result, some software developers have become pessimistic about Wii U. However, the time will come when some third-party games for Wii U and for other platforms are released at the same time this year. It is important to have given much momentum to Wii U around that period.
"If the number of consumers who prefer the Wii U version’s unique entertainment value, such as the ability to play games only with the Wii U GamePad (while the rest of the family is watching TV), increases to a certain extent where third-party publishers notice unexpected hit Wii U titles from other publishers and realize this system’s business potential, its momentum will be improved.
"Even if these publishers did not have any concrete plans to develop Wii U software, they will swiftly change their minds when they see the successful examples from others. By giving sales momentum to Wii U through our first-party software in the short run and seeing success from third-party software within this year, we would like to dramatically change the situation of Wii U next year and beyond."
Yves Guillemot, Chairman and CEO of Ubisoft, is typically one of the biggest proponents of new systems, but betting big on the Wii U didn't work out well for the company. ZombiU, one of the most popular launch titles for the system with players, was not profitable, he says. Not even close. As such, he says, there are no plans (or even desire) for a sequel.
It was, in fact, because of that game's performance that Ubisoft decided to make Rayman Legends a multiplatform game.
For EA, at least, it's the system's lack of a rich multiplayer environment that's one of the big concerns - especially for sports titles. (That's part of the reason Madden won't appear on the system this year.)
"The lack of online engagement that we see on Wii U [is troubling]," says Moore. "It's so integral to what we do. They're so small it's hardly worth running the servers. It seems like a box that's out of sync with the future of EA - which is one that gives a real social feel to our games. The Wii U feels like an offline experience right now."
Lazy consumers just don't understand the amazing value proposition the Wii U is offering them.
at what point does nintendo just give up on the wii u?
I don't know how the 3DS is selling to know if it's strong enough to make up for the Wii U. GBA was out only 3 or 4 years until the DS released; although there was that third pillar stuff and the gameboy micro came out after the DS. What are the chances nintendo releases a new handheld in say early 2015 that's comparable to the wii u and solely focus on that? port wii u games over there, twilight princess-style.
roughly 1.1MM units NA in 9 months and has one Mario game with a 70% attach rate... and the next highest game, regardless of publisher, is 150k.
Filthy plebes not wanting a dedicated MH3U machine. :rejoice
A million western tri buyers?
???
The Wii U hasn't even cracked two million in the EU and the US and you say Tri on Wii U sold a million?
I hate telling kids that santa ain't real
Filthy Euro plebs. I bet it was all the Poles pirating the game.
Filthy Euro plebs. I bet it was all the Poles pirating the game.
Filthy Euro plebs. I bet it was all the Poles pirating the game.
Filthy Euro plebs. I bet it was all the Poles pirating the game.
ROFL. Nintards are the plebs.
Until Nintendo get their heads out of their arses, and wash off some of the thickly spread arrogance that coats every single aspect of their decision making, I hope they suffer utter and complete failure to the point of relegation to nothing more than a freak-show no-one takes seriously anymore. They won't of course. They will double down on their franchises, churn out cheap cash-ins, and trickle out VC games while the eShop is barren to try and keep their fans just hanging on enough for their next franchise. Meanwhile those who wanted more than a Mario and Zelda machine are screwed.
Disclaimer: I am not only a gamer and Wii U owner, but a Nintendo investor and I am fucking pissed off no matter what hat I have on.
Speaking for myself, the bitching about this delay is because it's on top of no fucking games. No games is far more important of course, but even when they have next to no god damn games for their new console in about 9 months, they can't get the eShop running, only trickle out VC games and have to release their first update 5 months after release and their next one 4 months after that.
They just need to send me a dev kit and access to their source repository and I'll fix their damned OS myself.
Amateurs.
it's reaching a critical point for Nintendo. With the polarisation of AAAAAAAAA or indy, and the emergence of a massive number of casual gamers who are happy with bite-sized 99c games, Nintendo is becoming more marginalised. They don't easily cater to third parties and their AAAAAAA desires (Bigger, faster, stronger) and they don't have a great track record with indies
anybody going to pick it? you know you bought that thing for other reason than showing you have more money than sense:picard
anybody going to pick it? you know you bought that thing for other reason than showing you have more money than sense:picard
(http://hcd-1.imgbox.com/adpqNAYi.png?st=poMOE5w4j3xH_sJlsVJEOw&e=1373917237)
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God my Wii U was being a fuckwit today. It lost the wifi several times, hulu kept locking up... Poor thing must have realized tomorrow is NPD day :'(could it be... heat related?
God my Wii U was being a fuckwit today. It lost the wifi several times, hulu kept locking up... Poor thing must have realized tomorrow is NPD day :'(could it be... heat related?
sorry :'(
Remember when Nintendo shit was actually engineered to be bulletproof?that was actually a cool engineering nerd-out. I'm watching his other videos right now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScicrgZwvg4
About five minutes in this gets really interesting, he has no idea how the N64 works as a game system but he totally goes into industrial design / component analysis. Yes his voice is squeaky but it's pretty awesome.
God my Wii U was being a fuckwit today. It lost the wifi several times, hulu kept locking up... Poor thing must have realized tomorrow is NPD day :'(
The blaming is going upwards.
Lazy dudebro's, lazy devs, lazy weather
Next step is blaming god.
Code: [Select]DREAMCAST WII U
1/4/1999 28,830 1/7/2013 21,489
1/11/1999 27,439 1/14/2013 16,635
1/18/1999 22,788 1/21/2013 12,335
1/25/1999 37,249 1/28/2013 11,714
2/1/1999 20,327 2/4/2013 11,092
2/8/1999 15,160 2/11/2013 10,167
2/15/1999 2WEEK1 2/18/2013 9,495
2/22/1999 22,797 2/25/2013 9,528 (19,203 2WEEK1)
3/1/1999 13,362 3/4/2013 9,089
3/8/1999 9,232 3/11/2013 8,567
3/15/1999 8,952 3/18/2013 10,172
3/22/1999 16,657 3/25/2013 21,502
3/29/1999 14,675 4/1/2013 14,413
4/5/1999 13,348 4/8/2013 10,147
4/12/1999 6,747 4/15/2013 8,047
4/19/1999 2WEEK1 4/22/2013 8,058
4/26/1999 14,882 4/29/2013 10,573 (18,631 2WEEK1)
5/3/1999 7,392 5/6/2013 6,744
5/10/1999 4,458 5/13/2013 6,058
5/17/1999 3,344 5/20/2013 5,536
5/24/1999 4,743 5/27/2013 5,669
5/31/1999 2,567 6/3/2013 4,549
6/7/1999 676 6/10/2013 5,031
6/14/1999 479 6/17/2013 4,236
6/21/1999 45,058 6/24/2013 5,846
6/28/1999 25,249 7/1/2013 6,380
7/5/1999 20,741 7/8/2013 20,728
TOTAL (from this chart)
DREAMCAST - 387,152
WII U - 273,800
Thats so sad for the Dreamcast if you look at the software it had, should be selling so much better. Sega just lost all mainstream cred by then after Sega CD, 32X and Saturn.
wii u saved
http://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/82s5n1dbV4gstayVNhVYtOneSXTIXACS
It's done. Finished. The chalkboard sucks because even many Nintards admit it is in very dire straits. Only the most zealous of Nintard thinks there is still a chance. If I were a Nintard, I'd just forget about it doing well and just play the few good games that will come out on the system. It's what I did when I was a Segafag during the Dreamcast days. Nope, there won't be a wiiuprintmoney.gif and you'll be the whipping boy of the console wars but the sooner you realize this, the better.
So it's kinda sad to see Nintendo be so uncreative and desperate. Wii U won't really have a legacy.
So it's kinda sad to see Nintendo be so uncreative and desperate. Wii U won't really have a legacy.
C'mon now, its legacy will probably be how Nintendo chooses to approach hardware launches from now on... Which might be a good thing.
Also, it can only be without a software legacy if you assume they're just going to do 3DS retreads for the next 3/4 years. Retro aren't just making Donkey Kong, EAD aren't just doing 3D World and Wind Waker... There'll be good games coming out of Nintendo internally, of that I'm in no doubt.
I haven't heard of that deal. What are the details?
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http://www.idigitaltimes.com/articles/18958/20130719/atlus-bankruptcy-nintendo-persona-5-acquisition.htm
The tears would be amazing. :aah
I said nothing of SMT, I was speaking of Atlus' games in general which includes games like Catherine. Nintendo would never publish Catherine.
I said nothing of SMT, I was speaking of Atlus' games in general which includes games like Catherine. Nintendo would never publish Catherine.
They're publishing Bayo 2 and published Ninja Gaiden 3 Weeoo in the US, lol.
I mean, dude even pondered the reasoning for the FE/SMT $30 promo *immediately* before talking about SMTxFE and didn't seem to connect the dots on that.
I said nothing of SMT, I was speaking of Atlus' games in general which includes games like Catherine. Nintendo would never publish Catherine.
They're publishing Bayo 2 and published Ninja Gaiden 3 Weeoo in the US, lol.
Bayonetta 2 and Ninja Gaiden 3 are a whole different bag of chips. They're cartoony in their violence. Catherine is about a 30-somethings and the pressures of marriage and sexual promiscuity in the modern age. Publishing an action game is something Nintendo has been known for; publishing an adult targeted game with highly suggestive subject matter isn't.
I said nothing of SMT, I was speaking of Atlus' games in general which includes games like Catherine. Nintendo would never publish Catherine.
They're publishing Bayo 2 and published Ninja Gaiden 3 Weeoo in the US, lol.
Bayonetta 2 and Ninja Gaiden 3 are a whole different bag of chips. They're cartoony in their violence. Catherine is about a 30-somethings and the pressures of marriage and sexual promiscuity in the modern age. Publishing an action game is something Nintendo has been known for; publishing an adult targeted game with highly suggestive subject matter isn't.
You know i would have said the same thing about Bayonetta and then they went to publish it. The original sold kind of poorly didnt it? So Catherine i slike beyond that, it sold worse didnt it?
But it is a game that no one would expect Nintendo to publish. The themes are very Atlus-y too.
Why are you guys even bothering to engage Fandrex and Damian? Fandrex doesn't even know what sort of non-handheld games Atlus makes- if it's not on a Nintendo system, it just doesn't exist. And Damian has consistently proven himself to be a slightly more literate, Nintendo leaning version of Magoose.
wut. Its themes aren't Atlus-like at all.
Why are you guys even bothering to engage Fandrex and Damian? Fandrex doesn't even know what sort of non-handheld games Atlus makes- if it's not on a Nintendo system, it just doesn't exist. And Damian has consistently proven himself to be a slightly more literate, Nintendo leaning version of Magoose.
:pacspit
If that's all it takes to be Atlus-y, half of the fucking Japanese games industry is Atlus-y.
Bayonetta is almost exactly like Devil May Cry in theme, except with the camp cranked way up. THERE'S PROBABLY A REASON FOR THAT.
Why are you guys even bothering to engage Fandrex and Damian? Fandrex doesn't even know what sort of non-handheld games Atlus makes- if it's not on a Nintendo system, it just doesn't exist. And Damian has consistently proven himself to be a slightly more literate, Nintendo leaning version of Magoose.
:pacspit
:yeshrug
Act like a buffoon, ya gonna get treated like a buffoon. I'm not here to give everybody a piece of candy and a gold star.
wut. Its themes aren't Atlus-like at all.
Kill angels and God isnt Atlus-y?
If that's all it takes to be Atlus-y, half of the fucking Japanese games industry is Atlus-y.
Bayonetta is almost exactly like Devil May Cry in theme, except with the camp cranked way up. THERE'S PROBABLY A REASON FOR THAT.
Thats so sad for the Dreamcast if you look at the software it had, should be selling so much better. Sega just lost all mainstream cred by then after Sega CD, 32X and Saturn.
Killing god is the story of 50% of JRPGs ever.
Best list i could find.Link it instead, it's bound to have better formatting.
Don't worry, we're not talking about the WiiU.
Nah, lots of games use a warped form of YHWH. You are right that one way Atlus's approach is unique is that they actually don't obfuscate his identity. SMT2 straight up calls him YHWH. But I'd argue that's one of the more superficial ways Atlus is different.
The biggest difference is that Atlus, for how much it Pokemon-izes various religions, actually has something to say about religion and morality besides "RELIGION CAN BE CORRUPTED, DON'T TRUST THE GODS, DERP". Generally, the three main alignments in SMT games all have good reasons backing them. No particular side is really painted as the bad guys or the good guys. There's a lot of nuance, and that's because at the end of the day, SMT is really about morality, religion, and humanity first and foremost. Whereas something like Bayonetta just uses religion as interesting character design curtains for a straight-forward action game.
Bayonetta is a "mature" game, but that is entirely independent of its religious themes. SMT games (and most of Atlus's games) are "mature" and a lot of that is owing to the themes found in them.
Nah, lots of games use a warped form of YHWH. You are right that one way Atlus's approach is unique is that they actually don't obfuscate his identity. SMT2 straight up calls him YHWH. But I'd argue that's one of the more superficial ways Atlus is different.
The biggest difference is that Atlus, for how much it Pokemon-izes various religions, actually has something to say about religion and morality besides "RELIGION CAN BE CORRUPTED, DON'T TRUST THE GODS, DERP". Generally, the three main alignments in SMT games all have good reasons backing them. No particular side is really painted as the bad guys or the good guys. There's a lot of nuance, and that's because at the end of the day, SMT is really about morality, religion, and humanity first and foremost. Whereas something like Bayonetta just uses religion as interesting character design curtains for a straight-forward action game.
Bayonetta is a "mature" game, but that is entirely independent of its religious themes. SMT games (and most of Atlus's games) are "mature" and a lot of that is owing to the themes found in them.
Good point.
I never said that they were the same but it would be Nintendo's next step. You dont find Nintendo publishing Bayo 2 odd?
Aside from the initial shock? No.
Nah, lots of games use a warped form of YHWH. You are right that one way Atlus's approach is unique is that they actually don't obfuscate his identity. SMT2 straight up calls him YHWH. But I'd argue that's one of the more superficial ways Atlus is different.
The biggest difference is that Atlus, for how much it Pokemon-izes various religions, actually has something to say about religion and morality besides "RELIGION CAN BE CORRUPTED, DON'T TRUST THE GODS, DERP". Generally, the three main alignments in SMT games all have good reasons backing them. No particular side is really painted as the bad guys or the good guys. There's a lot of nuance, and that's because at the end of the day, SMT is really about morality, religion, and humanity first and foremost. Whereas something like Bayonetta just uses religion as interesting character design curtains for a straight-forward action game.
Bayonetta is a "mature" game, but that is entirely independent of its religious themes. SMT games (and most of Atlus's games) are "mature" and a lot of that is owing to the themes found in them.
Aside from the initial shock? No.
So basically Bayo 2 was a necessary evil of the marvelous(is that the name?) 101 thing?
how is bayonetta worse than famicom detective club?
the original premise was one arguing about content. You are shocked Nintendo would publish a game with Bayo's content; they have published worse.
I"m just confused now. I'm going to go look at naked men on the internet and go to sleep.
Part of being a good troll is not knowing you are trolling. I'll leave you with that.
Part of being a good troll is not knowing you are trolling. I'll leave you with that.
http://club2.nintendo.com/rebate/?om_rid=AAFr5T&om_mid=_BR7atqB80DAVHt&eid=EM10116#.Ue2u-Y3Ovm5y
Free $10 Wii U eShop credit when you add $100+ to your account. ($5 if you add $50+)
http://club2.nintendo.com/rebate/?om_rid=AAFr5T&om_mid=_BR7atqB80DAVHt&eid=EM10116#.Ue2u-Y3Ovm5y
Free $10 Wii U eShop credit when you add $100+ to your account. ($5 if you add $50+)
Well I could get EarthBound I suppose, been missing that one. And Luigi U DLC.
Then I could save the rest for WW HD and DKC Orange Creamsicle.
Shame I'm pretty broke atm.
Well I could get EarthBound I suppose, been missing that one. And Luigi U DLC.
Then I could save the rest for WW HD and DKC Orange Creamsicle.
Shame I'm pretty broke atm.
If you think $10 free when you spend $100 on Nintendo credit is a good deal it's hardly surprising you're broke. :derp
It was $350 and MH3U was on the horizon. :wag
Speaking of, played a little last night to break in my new Pro Controller, and wow, it's fantastic. Possibly the best controller Nintendo's made... slight edge to the GameCube, maybe.
Wavebird, nicca. :bow2
Wavebird, nicca. :bow2
A bit too light and no rumble, otherwise :rejoicespoiler (click to show/hide)Also inhereted the other derpy GC things, like the no second shoulder button, bad d-pad, and bad c-stick.[close]
At least it was the standard controller for the console and the games were built around it. Nintendo doesn't even know how you're supposed to play Wii U games or with what.
When did Activision get the rights to WipeOut?
Funny how the biggest Angry Birds haters are *ALWAYS* ninspergs (not talking about Andy boy here). Can't deal with the fact that dem birds are this kids generation's Mario.
Really? I find the biggest angry birds haters are the hardcore gamers, who usually back one of the proper consoles. Gamers in general seem pretty annoyed at its popularity, though. Even iOS gamers.
When did Activision get the rights to WipeOut?
it's not wipeout the racing game,it's wipeout the tv shows that rip off takeshi's castle
this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neYJk-UGbng
Wii classic or Wii classic pro for PC emulators? I want to buy one with mayflash adapter but can't decide between the two.
Maybe go for the club Nintendo snes controller?
Wii classic or Wii classic pro for PC emulators? I want to buy one with mayflash adapter but can't decide between the two.
Maybe go for the club Nintendo snes controller?
Wii U Pro Controller (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=72754611&postcount=219)
Pikmin 3 looks good
Wii classic or Wii classic pro for PC emulators? I want to buy one with mayflash adapter but can't decide between the two.
Maybe go for the club Nintendo snes controller?
Wii U Pro Controller (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=72754611&postcount=219)
I picked up one of these last weekend. I was really surprised at how comfortable its whole setup was overall.
ASDA (UK supermarket/Walmart?) is dropping the Wii U (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=637833)Yep, ASDA is Walmart UK and the second biggest supermarket in the UK. How long will it be til Walmart US drops the Wii U? Is Walmart US a bigger games retailer than Gamestop?
:violin Andrex.
How long until Iwata is (rightly) fired?spoiler (click to show/hide)More like how long until other retailers follow suit?[close]
ASDA (UK supermarket/Walmart?) is dropping the Wii U (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=637833)Yep, ASDA is Walmart UK and the second biggest supermarket in the UK. How long will it be til Walmart US drops the Wii U? Is Walmart US a bigger games retailer than Gamestop?
:violin Andrex.
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Walmart would drop Vita before Wii U, and they won't do either before this holiday.
Walmart would drop Vita before Wii U, and they won't do either before this holiday.
And yet that's missing the point: UK "Wal-mart" has dropped Wii U. The Vita is still in there (but being dropped in some stores according to GAF). That's huge. That's not to say you're entirely wrong, because you're not. But the fact is if Wii U doesn't sell in the US any better (read: above 10K and getting toward the 50K that the PS4/X-box is surely going to do way more of in the follow launch months) I can see it happening in the US in October to attempt to clear stock during the holidays or sometime during that to make way for PS4/X-box.
Celebi doing M-M-MAXIMUM OVERSPIN (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=73549153&postcount=387)
and here's Wii AND Wii U. I've highlighted the amazing quota allocated to Wii U.
(http://i.imgur.com/Obt6VRC.jpg)
PS3 has always shipped above 1 million except for one quarter of 700,000. This is over 4 times worse than PS3‘s worst quarter.
Nintendo is fucked. Their model of "shit hardware with gimmick sold at a premium price" is dead in the water.
The problem is that Nintendo is so far behind that I don't think they will ever really catch up without investing a lot of money. The Wii and DS smash successes brought in lots of money in the short term but irreparably fucked them in the long term.
Nintendo is fucked. Their model of "shit hardware with gimmick sold at a premium price" is dead in the water.
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Wii U Shipped 160k Units Worldwide Between April and June 2013
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90k from Japan
60k from North America
10k from Other
Nintendo still haven't altered their forecast of shipping 9 million more units between now and the end of the year.
This thing is officially dead. It's gone past the point of no return and is no longer viable on the market no matter what they do. It's only a matter of a few months until pretty much every store except GAME/Gamestation has completely dropped this thing in Europe, ASDA was just the first drop in the flood.
Let's try to see you spin this Radiohead.
I doubt Nintendo would survive from handheld sales alone.
If they ever make a Wii U successor, they should just go the budget route. Have a budget box that goes for $125-175 that is essentially a Roku that plays Nintendo games. Ditch the stupid gimmicks, just make good games. They can keep expanding on the Miiverse and someday it may be worth a shit. I think this is Nintendo's only way to go since they don't have the infrastructure in place to ever compete with Sony and Microsoft again.
Where's radiohead, Andrex and marc^o^ spin.
Uuuh guys thes numbers are before Nintendo released Earthbound on VC, just wait untill post-Earthbound numbers come in.
That's right, just before the console is ready to shine.
Where's radiohead, Andrex and marc^o^ spin.
Putting Andy there is a bit disingenuous. Andy's at least admitted and accepted it's a failure. I think the Bore finally broke his Nintendo spirit and he's starting to come around to Iwata being a shitty CEO and the like.
But let's play a game: Andy, radiohead, Marc: Why did you buy a Wii U knowing what you knew at launch? Hard mode: Don't say "FOR THE NINTENDO GAMEZ STOOPID!" because that'd just be proving the point that no one but Nintendo's insane fanbase wants the system.Uuuh guys thes numbers are before Nintendo released Earthbound on VC, just wait untill post-Earthbound numbers come in.
:lol
marc^o^'s spin:Quote from: derp derp derpThat's right, just before the console is ready to shine.
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc130/esmith1985/shepicide_zpsa7905c1a.gif)
But let's play a game: Andy, radiohead, Marc: Why did you buy a Wii U knowing what you knew at launch? Hard mode: Don't say "FOR THE NINTENDO GAMEZ STOOPID!" because that'd just be proving the point that no one but Nintendo's insane fanbase wants the system.
:yeshrug You can still have fun with a failed system. I enjoyed my 32X at the time, love the vita and enjoy the Wii U. The Wii U is a complete disaster for Nintendo but I'm not a shareholder
That said when I bought the Wii U I thought they would push the virtual console much more aggressively. Knowing the sorry state it is in now I would have passed. The Wii U is the first nintendo console I've owned and put any real time into. I bought a used gamecube for $30 at one point but only played Mario Sunshine. I had a Wii but only my kid played it (I played a bunch of NES, SNES & 64 at friend's houses when I was younger). I was looking forward to playing the back catalog but they aren't bothering to put most of it up
Plus I have the kid defense. My kid likes nintendo, what can you do :'(
Not even worth it for $99:
- no 3D Mario game
- no new Zelda
- no new Metroid
- no new F-Zero
- no X.gif yet
NO NOTHING.
Choppy Batman, Call of Duty, Pikmin 2.5 and 3DS Mario game uprezzed.
No thanks. Get your fucking grip together Iwata, Reggie and co.
I definitely think a N7-size tablet with gaming controls on the sides, with a wireless HDMI dongle for the TV, would have been the best direction for the Wii U. But that would have eaten into the 3DS and that's the only thing Nintendo sort of maybe has going for them right now. There were also probably a few people inside Nintendo who wanted to make HD games (even if the rest of the company has been dragging its heels.)
If Nintendo (hardware making-Nintendo) lasts through the Wii U I kinda do hope they reconcile their two product lines. Having a single platform makes a lot of things easier.
I surely thought they'd have one or two honeymoon years of 360/PS3 ports before the new systems crowded them out. I was entirely off the mark there.
:yeshrug You can still have fun with a failed system. I enjoyed my 32X at the time, love the vita and enjoy the Wii U. The Wii U is a complete disaster for Nintendo but I'm not a shareholder
That said when I bought the Wii U I thought they would push the virtual console much more aggressively. Knowing the sorry state it is in now I would have passed. The Wii U is the first nintendo console I've owned and put any real time into. I bought a used gamecube for $30 at one point but only played Mario Sunshine. I had a Wii but only my kid played it (I played a bunch of NES, SNES & 64 at friend's houses when I was younger). I was looking forward to playing the back catalog but they aren't bothering to put most of it up
Plus I have the kid defense. My kid likes nintendo, what can you do :'(
If your kid had any taste, he'd be building a PC and playing games there </Bore and I combined?>
@Andy: But you could play MH on Wii already. ??? Once you've played one, you've played them all. ???
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Doesn't this just mean Nintendo will save money on shipping costs? MS and Sony will spend a fortune shipping units this holiday season only to sell out/lose sales, whereas there are already millions of WiiUs available for sale. Nintendo could blow everyone away this holiday season.
Price Drop would be awesome, even though I plan on buying one end of the year
- Real improvements in the OS
Price Drop would be awesome, even though I plan on buying one end of the year
Just wait for the clearance blowout, Virtual Boy-style.
at this point, the best thing Nintendo could put on the Wii U would be a smothering pillow
Your perception is that anyone who tries to explain why the Wii U has less support (or worse ports) is siding with the company (WB) over the consumer. We heard the same argument from early PS3 owners who got shitty ports. And it's true. It'd be great if all customers got the best of everything, and it feels unfair if you're in a position where you can't get the best of everything. You're not wrong.
My perception is that anyone who bought a Wii U expecting third party support to be good was siding with the company (Nintendo) over the consumer (themselves). Yes, in some ideal Nirvana world you could buy one piece of hardware for a cheap price and it'd have all the great points of all past hardware and the best first-party support ever and the best third-party support ever. But in the real world, there is obvious information available to everyone before purchase, and if they choose to ignore it, there's going to be a degree of caveat emptor. And then there's going to be obvious consequences. If you lock yourself into any particular hardware route, you're going to get advantages and you're going to get disadvantages. And yes you hope that people work to minimize the disadvantages, but in the real world mostly the best strategy is just to make the smart purchase decision to begin with and not get caught up in potential or hype.
The first clue is Nintendo's history with third parties. The second clue is the Wii U's positioning as a whole in terms of power and where it fits with next gen and the selling point as off-TV/gamepad. The third clue is that almost all launch buyers of anything electronic get burned in some previously unexpected way for them. The fourth clue would have been that Nintendo didn't promote best of breed online services (no accounts, no achievements, no emphasis on leaderboards, not using online features in their own titles, no real push on DLC, no season passes, no F2P/microtransactions, no DLC from the store only in-game, no one-click purchase conversion for demos, etc). The fifth clue would have been Wii U sales dropoff after Christmas. Note that I'm not reiterating this stuff to argue if these things are good or anything like that. And I'm not saying Nintendo hasn't made strides in some regards. I'm only arguing it to say that it's pretty evident that this was going to happen.
So now we're at the following point:
- Most companies don't support the Wii U as much as they support other platforms, current and future. This is going to manifest itself in games not being released. And yeah, you can complain that they're skipping the Wii U or boycott the company or talk about the concerted third-party effort to bring down Nintendo. Or, like everyone happily playing all these great games, you could buy the game somewhere else. And when the new consoles launch, all bets are off. It's possible the Wii U will be left behind entirely, it's possible it won't.
- Most companies are not going to make the effort to build ground-up online services to compensate for Nintendo's approach. This is going to manifest itself in later DLC or no DLC, fewer new features, fewer online-centric experiences. And yes, this is a vicious cycle, so it will result in fewer people buying the software, a worse ecosystem later, and less effort. You can easily complain that this is unfair and boycott the game over the missing feature. Or, like everyone happily playing all these great games, you could buy the game somewhere else.
- Most companies are not going to make the effort to optimize their tech or make their Wii U version better than the PS360 version in terms of performance. I'm not going to wade into the power debate. Maybe the Wii U is SUPER BEEFY OMG A TANK SO POWERFUL. Maybe it's yadda yadda ducttape. But regardless of how well games could run on it, they largely are going to run no better and look no better than their PS360 counterparts. And you could complain that you're getting a worse performing version, how dare they not take advantage of the additional Wii U power, or you could choose to buy the version with the best performance.
In all three cases, I guess you could stick to a principled argument that the situation is wrong and unfair... or you could be happy by making a better purchasing decision. This is the exact same thing I would have said to PS3 owners circa 2007. Not because I'm siding against them, because they're siding against themselves by making their software decisions based on their hardware decisions rather than the other way around. Hardware on its own does nothing. It enables software. So if all your complaints are about the breadth, depth, quality, etc of software, it means you bought the wrong hardware. And if getting the best version of third-party games is important, buying the Wii U was buying the wrong hardware. Maybe it shouldn't be the case, maybe the Gamepad is amazing and the console is superpowered, but it is the case. Now that you know that, you have the information, and the purchasing power is in your hands.
Personally I own a Wii U. I liked Nintendoland. I thought ZombiU had some promise. I like Game and Wario, especially with a large group of people. Playing VC on my front deck on a summer evening is great. And yeah, I got Sonic Racing Transformed for it--probably not the best decision considering how poor off-screen play looks, performance, and the overall superior quality of the PC version (to say nothing of a more active online population, achievements, etc). But mostly it's on me. I bought the hardware knowing full well what was going to happen. And when I buy software, I generally do my best to choose the actual best version or to recognize that if I deliberately don't, it's on me.
The Wii U is a sales failure. And it's a software sales failure. And its hardware design isn't congruent with other platforms. That's a crummy hand being dealt to developers and publishers. Crummier still is the fact that if they bail, it'll just be worse in the future. So some of them are trying to stick through it. Some more than others. Good for them. But if they change their mind and bail or if the products can't end up being as good or as good a value as those offered elsewhere, it doesn't surprise me in the least. Maybe Nintendo will turn the ship around. It's not an argument I want to have. Maybe all this is fair, maybe it's not. The point is it was predictable, and it's certainly predictable today, so there's a guaranteed way to not be negatively impacted by it if only you choose that option.
It sucks for people who can only afford one console or don't want a second one. For those people, it's important to be even more skeptical when making your hardware purchase decision. If your stance is "I can only afford one console, but I have to buy it day one", that's a self-defeating stance. Also, those people always going to miss out on something the same way that a non-Wii U owner is going to miss out on Miiverse and Nintendo games. If you are a single console owner, it's important to adopt a sort of resigned contentment with what you have rather than looking at the universe of what you don't. For most gamers, I think owning multiple consoles would be a benefit--and can even save money if you spread out the purchases and buy games when they reach a budget pricepoint rather than going for new releases.
at this point, the best thing Nintendo could put on the Wii U would be a smothering pillow
The Wii U has one big problem, and it's that it has no games. People aren't ignoring it because it's Nintendo, they're ignoring it because there's nothing to play. The Dreamcast didn't sell because it HAD games, but the games were games no one cared about.
As long as big games like Mario, Zelda, Mario Kart, etc. come out, people will jump on board. The general market doesn't care that it's been out a year, they care that there is no new Mario. NSMBU came out right after NSMB2 which I think killed interest quite a bit.
The 3DS was dead, too.
I just think it's too early to conclude anything either way. If this fall passes and it's still selling 50K units a month, yeah, it's dead. Let Nintendo to TRY something first.
I think the price is the biggest issue right now. Short of WiiSports Electric Boogaloo, few casuals AND hardcores will pay $350 for current-gen graphics and poor online, no matter the killer app. The breaking point for that is about $100-150 lower.Lowering the price now isn't going to make a difference. They need to release compelling software first. Once they've released Mario Kart, Wii Fit U, and Smash Brothers then a $100 price drop might make more of an impact.
For instance, I still think the 3DS would be doing piss poor right now, even with the library it has, if it was still $250.
Nah the biggest issue with the WiiU is the fact that it's a confusing system with a dumb gimmick that no one wants. There isn't any fixing that.
Lowering the price now isn't going to make a difference. They need to release compelling software first. Once they've released Mario Kart, Wii Fit U, and Smash Brothers then a $100 price drop might make more of an impact.
And as Steve Contra mentioned above, they also need to release a game promoting their new gimmick. The tablet doesn't add much to the system as it is now.
Stump:
"MP will be available for Xbox 360, PS3 and PC," a Warner Bros. spokesperson told Eurogamer. "The team is focusing development efforts on platforms with the largest MP audience."
Think about it:
- day one PS4 sales will be higher than Wii U's LTD
- day one Xbone sales will be higher than Wii U's LTD
- day one PS4+Xbone install base will be 2x Wii U's install base at the moment
That means on day ONE there is no incentive for 3rd parties to create Wii U exclusive games because of "larger install base". And they will not be able to create multiplats targetting the Wii U because of Wii U's lack of power.
In-fucking-credible.
Now the PS4 is poised to sell like gangbusters
...and Nintendo decided to call it quits on the hardware front, what do you think the professional gaming communities reaction would be (developers, media, competitors)?
...and Nintendo decided to call it quits on the hardware front, what do you think the professional gaming communities reaction would be (developers, media, competitors)?
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lin423pybS1qep7cuo1_400.jpg)
Seriously. Third parties wouldn't care (and probably would dance a jig) and the world at large wouldn't care besides the hardcore Nintendo fans ( :Andrex ).
Well, okay... maybe Sega would care since that's the only place their shit sells now a days unless it's an optimized PC port.
...and Nintendo decided to call it quits on the hardware front, what do you think the professional gaming communities reaction would be (developers, media, competitors)?
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lin423pybS1qep7cuo1_400.jpg)
Seriously. Third parties wouldn't care (and probably would dance a jig) and the world at large wouldn't care besides the hardcore Nintendo fans ( :Andrex ).
Well, okay... maybe Sega would care since that's the only place their shit sells now a days unless it's an optimized PC port.
:hehspoiler (click to show/hide)It's a GAF repost.[close]
Why is this thread so popular
I don't think there's ever been such an incongruency between the popularity of a console and the amount of discussion of that console on interweb forums...
Meanwhile, when Asda cut the price of Wii U by £100 three weeks ago, this resulted in just 250 extra console sales compared with the week previously. Amazon followed suit the following week, which caused a further 667 console sales. This shows that the price cut did have an impact, but we’re hardly talking big increases here.:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Why do supermarkets sell video games to begin with? Does supermarket mean something different over there?
I have a gut feeling that I've never shared before because I was afraid it'll get get everyone laughing at me, but here goes: I'm one of *those* people who, regardless of all the terrible recent developments and numbers, feel that this system will take a turn for the better starting with the holiday season (marked by a price-cut) and ending with the release of MK8. From there it'll continue putting out relatively healthy number which will culminate in LTD sales higher than the GC's.
I know, it sounds really crazy in light of what we know, but I'm putting it out there just in case. Marc^o^ will have the last laugh guys, ya'll just wait!
"Healthy" in terms of today's climate would be somewhere between the 360 and PS3 numbers and with consistency, but definitely less than the 3DS. The push will be relying on the timing and size of the price-cut, and whether it's coinciding with the biggest holiday release or not (which is arguably 3D World). As for the possibility of it being crushed by the next console, it can't be ruled out of course. But again, I'm one of *those* who believe that while both next-gen systems will perform (relatively) well in the long run, they'll "enjoy" one of those slowest and worrisome post-launch periods in the recent history. You guys better be prepared for some really smug ninthings in 2014.
My gut has spoken.
:sabu"Healthy" in terms of today's climate would be somewhere between the 360 and PS3 numbers and with consistency, but definitely less than the 3DS. The push will be relying on the timing and size of the price-cut, and whether it's coinciding with the biggest holiday release or not (which is arguably 3D World). As for the possibility of it being crushed by the next console, it can't be ruled out of course. But again, I'm one of *those* who believe that while both next-gen systems will perform (relatively) well in the long run, they'll "enjoy" one of those slowest and worrisome post-launch periods in the recent history. You guys better be prepared for some really smug ninthings in 2014.
My gut has spoken.
I'm at a loss to choose which emoticon properly evokes my reaction to the bolded.
Any other thoughts?
Yeah, Nintendo sucks.
Why do supermarkets sell video games to begin with? Does supermarket mean something different over there?
I feel bad for PlatinumGames, sending two (probably) good games out to die on a dead system. :'(
I feel bad for PlatinumGames, sending two (probably) good games out to die on a dead system. :'(
You guys better be prepared for some really smug ninthings in 2014.
I honestly think that Iwata's grand plan is a huge price cull just before Xballrog and PSeidon come to eat the Weww alive.
LOOK LOOK LOOK ~ MARIO KART AND NOW IT'S $189 !
To which no one gives a flying fig.
It's on life support in Japan - a lot of places aren't even stocking the new games and everything else is on clearance. Injustice? Lol F1 Racers? lol Lego? pfff
This is Medialand - this is a pretty well placed yet smallish store, but this is pretty typical for how the WiiU sections look in a whole host of Akihabara stores :
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQ4ijtYCUAAvrWk.jpg)
This is the biggest flop since.... well... even the Vita looks like a spring chicken in comparison. At least the Vita is getting store space and promotion.
Well, I got my Wii U back after just a couple of weeks.
The person who I gave it to gave his kids (4, 6, and 9) only one option for gaming: the Wii U or the iPad. Apparently the answer was unanimously the iPad. So rather than sell it off (because who would buy it amirite), I just got it back.
I decided I will hang on to it. Mario Kart 8 and Mario 3D World will probably be worth playing so I'll just stash it away in the closet for now.
http://ca.ign.com/articles/2013/07/31/exactly-how-bad-is-the-nintendo-situation
you non-wiiliever :wag
Well, I got my Wii U back after just a couple of weeks.
The person who I gave it to gave his kids (4, 6, and 9) only one option for gaming: the Wii U or the iPad. Apparently the answer was unanimously the iPad. So rather than sell it off (because who would buy it amirite), I just got it back.
I decided I will hang on to it. Mario Kart 8 and Mario 3D World will probably be worth playing so I'll just stash it away in the closet for now.
seems kinda a weird option to give your kids but whatev
That's weird, too.Well, I got my Wii U back after just a couple of weeks.
The person who I gave it to gave his kids (4, 6, and 9) only one option for gaming: the Wii U or the iPad. Apparently the answer was unanimously the iPad. So rather than sell it off (because who would buy it amirite), I just got it back.
I decided I will hang on to it. Mario Kart 8 and Mario 3D World will probably be worth playing so I'll just stash it away in the closet for now.
seems kinda a weird option to give your kids but whatev
Not for me. When growing up, I was allowed only one console. For example, when I got my N64, it was implied that we'd get rid of the NES.
Nintendo Direct August 7th (http://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/364747733938085889)For everyone else, a $100 official reduction plus a free copy of Urban Champion.
Tomorrow is the day! Tomorrow I become an ambassador :)
200 bucks is close to impulse buy.
You think your expectations can't get any lower for these directs and then Nintendo announces Luigi is in Smash Brothers
Got to keep digging... Also, I'm not an ambassador :'(
You think your expectations can't get any lower for these directs and then Nintendo announces Luigi is in Smash Brothers
Got to keep digging... Also, I'm not an ambassador :'(
I thought Luigi was always in Smash Bros
I thought Luigi was always in Smash Bros
I thought Luigi was always in Smash Bros
(http://i.imgur.com/QlslLUB.png)
who cares about luigi. mode 7 nostalgia pilotwings stage in smash bros :heart
(http://i.minus.com/i1uD4zOFZtRQ9.jpg)
this is the first and most interesting part of the new smash bros so far
How much did Pilotwings 3DS sell?
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Not that Sony and MS are going to do much better but at least they are bringing a power angle to console poors rather than X360.
Alas - Iwata will be gone before the end of the financial year - and , for maximum comedy, i would like Kutaragi to head them up so the next Nintendo machine is a beast and suddenly Nintendo fans have to do the full about-face on how important power is to them. c****
Doubt that. MS and Sony have seen from the Wii that graphics isnt everything. It is a big difference from when the original Xbox was released with them actually being ahead of pc's or atleast thats what Nvidia says.
Doubt that. MS and Sony have seen from the Wii that graphics isnt everything. It is a big difference from when the original Xbox was released with them actually being ahead of pc's or atleast thats what Nvidia says.
"I certainly understand that people want a new F-Zero game," Miyamoto said. "I think where I struggle is that I don’t really have a good idea for what’s new that we could bring to F-Zero that would really turn it into a great game again. Certainly I can see how people looking at Mario Kart 8 could see, through the anti-gravity, a connection to F-Zero. But I don’t know, at this point, what direction we could go in with a new F-Zero."
We here at Nintendo will only introduce new chapters in our storied franchises when we have new gameplay innovations to add to them!"
QuoteDoubt that. MS and Sony have seen from the Wii that graphics isnt everything. It is a big difference from when the original Xbox was released with them actually being ahead of pc's or atleast thats what Nvidia says.
I'm not even remotely pleased with XB1/PS4 specs but they are 8x-10x more powerful than PS360.That is standard generational leap.
WiiU on the other hand looks like 360 with more memory.
Nintendo should just release a new Wii U model that takes out the gamepad, includes a pro controller, 128 GB of internal storage, and is sold for no more than $249. Sell the gamepad separately for $129.
Also they should fire Iwata.
The WiiU's obviously doomed in Europe and probably the same in Japan. In America it might be salvageable if they can get the kid market, and by salvageable I mean Gamecube level of sales. Nintendo's still viewed as the "thing you get your kids to shut them up" and I always see kids flocking around the thing in stores. But the problem is, $350 is WAY too expensive to tap into that market. I'm not sure what is keeping the WiiU so expensive to make, though I imagine its mostly an accounting thing since they probably haven't even mass produced much from the initial allotment. Either way, they need to lower the price to hit that audience and I think NoA knows this on some level, only NoJ calls the shots so...Are they that to parents anymore? I'm under the impression that the 3DS has done meh here and well that's the first thing I think parents would buy a kid.
The WiiU's obviously doomed in Europe and probably the same in Japan. In America it might be salvageable if they can get the kid market, and by salvageable I mean Gamecube level of sales. Nintendo's still viewed as the "thing you get your kids to shut them up" and I always see kids flocking around the thing in stores. But the problem is, $350 is WAY too expensive to tap into that market. I'm not sure what is keeping the WiiU so expensive to make, though I imagine its mostly an accounting thing since they probably haven't even mass produced much from the initial allotment. Either way, they need to lower the price to hit that audience and I think NoA knows this on some level, only NoJ calls the shots so...Are they that to parents anymore? I'm under the impression that the 3DS has done meh here and well that's the first thing I think parents would buy a kid.
My point is that in this day and age with phones, tablets, and browser games there's cheaper things to use to shut up your kid. Things that don't require you to spend $40 on a single game. I don't think kids need Nintendo for that and by the time they get older and want to actually play beyond just a time waster they probably want Xbox.
I bought my niece a DS and the thing revived no use compared to my sisters phone and ipad from her. My two nieces were content with playing that ipad game were the dude runs while I guess an aztec temple falls apart or something. Hell, my younger nice is content with playing Monster High browser games. The Pokemon game I bought them didn't keep their attention and it cost me more then $20. I think there are basically just playing the demo of that running game or the demo of angry birds.
And even besides that, right now I don't see much must have kids games on the Wii U. I mean the Wii shipped with the best "shut the hell up and play this kids" game. What does the Wii U have that tops Wii Sports?
The WiiU's obviously doomed in Europe and probably the same in Japan. In America it might be salvageable if they can get the kid market, and by salvageable I mean Gamecube level of sales. Nintendo's still viewed as the "thing you get your kids to shut them up" and I always see kids flocking around the thing in stores. But the problem is, $350 is WAY too expensive to tap into that market. I'm not sure what is keeping the WiiU so expensive to make, though I imagine its mostly an accounting thing since they probably haven't even mass produced much from the initial allotment. Either way, they need to lower the price to hit that audience and I think NoA knows this on some level, only NoJ calls the shots so...Are they that to parents anymore? I'm under the impression that the 3DS has done meh here and well that's the first thing I think parents would buy a kid.
My point is that in this day and age with phones, tablets, and browser games there's cheaper things to use to shut up your kid. Things that don't require you to spend $40 on a single game. I don't think kids need Nintendo for that and by the time they get older and want to actually play beyond just a time waster they probably want Xbox.
I bought my niece a DS and the thing revived no use compared to my sisters phone and ipad from her. My two nieces were content with playing that ipad game were the dude runs while I guess an aztec temple falls apart or something. Hell, my younger nice is content with playing Monster High browser games. The Pokemon game I bought them didn't keep their attention and it cost me more then $20. I think there are basically just playing the demo of that running game or the demo of angry birds.
And even besides that, right now I don't see much must have kids games on the Wii U. I mean the Wii shipped with the best "shut the hell up and play this kids" game. What does the Wii U have that tops Wii Sports?
That's temple run. It's fun, but it gets boring after like an hour.
Ummm, it does. That's what some people here and on GAF are discussing.
The WiiU's obviously doomed in Europe and probably the same in Japan. In America it might be salvageable if they can get the kid market, and by salvageable I mean Gamecube level of sales. Nintendo's still viewed as the "thing you get your kids to shut them up" and I always see kids flocking around the thing in stores. But the problem is, $350 is WAY too expensive to tap into that market. I'm not sure what is keeping the WiiU so expensive to make, though I imagine its mostly an accounting thing since they probably haven't even mass produced much from the initial allotment. Either way, they need to lower the price to hit that audience and I think NoA knows this on some level, only NoJ calls the shots so...
“If the price is actually an issue [with Wii U], then there is some contradiction between the current sales balance between the Basic and Premium versions of the Wii U. The basic version should have sold a lot, but the fact of the matter is that people are buying more of the premium version. So the issue is not there.”
“I understand that the real issue is the lack of software, and the only solution is to provide the mass-market with a number of quality software titles.”
the basic seems like the only version to get. why do i need a big hard drive for a wii u? you expect me to buy digital games on my nintendo system? with their fucking awful drm? the only thing i'd ever get is virtual console stuff and that's all small. basic edition all the way.
Haha shut the fuck up Iwata.Quote“If the price is actually an issue [with Wii U], then there is some contradiction between the current sales balance between the Basic and Premium versions of the Wii U. The basic version should have sold a lot, but the fact of the matter is that people are buying more of the premium version. So the issue is not there.”
“I understand that the real issue is the lack of software, and the only solution is to provide the mass-market with a number of quality software titles.”
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/423771/iwata-wii-u-basic-model-sales-show-price-isnt-the-issue/
:stahp
I give up Iwata needs to be fired.
Quote“If the price is actually an issue [with Wii U], then there is some contradiction between the current sales balance between the Basic and Premium versions of the Wii U. The basic version should have sold a lot, but the fact of the matter is that people are buying more of the premium version. So the issue is not there.”
“I understand that the real issue is the lack of software, and the only solution is to provide the mass-market with a number of quality software titles.”
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/423771/iwata-wii-u-basic-model-sales-show-price-isnt-the-issue/
:stahp
I give up Iwata needs to be fired.
(http://tinyurl.com/mz2n48r)Quote“If the price is actually an issue [with Wii U], then there is some contradiction between the current sales balance between the Basic and Premium versions of the Wii U. The basic version should have sold a lot, but the fact of the matter is that people are buying more of the premium version. So the issue is not there.”
“I understand that the real issue is the lack of software, and the only solution is to provide the mass-market with a number of quality software titles.”
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/423771/iwata-wii-u-basic-model-sales-show-price-isnt-the-issue/
:stahp
I give up Iwata needs to be fired.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BRezdSRCIAAyoLH.jpg)
"Just stepped off the "L" train at the Clark and Lake station and hit my head! Ow! Classic Luigi! #LuigiAndMe"
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol HILARIOUS NINTENDO IS AT ITS BEST
:-\
Because of the software library problems the majority of people picking up the system nowadays are core fans and others with low self-worth.
Mama mia, the Chicago buildings are tall! Now I know how Mario must feel. (It's funny because he's shorter than me
It's not even true. Nintendo's games don't grow up with you so that they can taint your younger siblings. That's the whole idea.
ANdrex, they took ms paint, did a google image search and ctrl v'd those images on that canvas
for a financial report
it lacks professionalism
Copy and Pasting is how Nintendo has been making games for the past decade.
That Nintendo ad... There's no fucking way that's real, no fucking way
(http://i.imgur.com/UCoj5JL.png)
please tell me this is not official because the graphic design is so terrible
Copy and Pasting is how Nintendo has been making games for the past decade.
Actually, it sold less than that and it's not very surprising. Fans of the series already own the PS2 or PS3 version and it's not a franchise that's appealing to the traditional Nintendo audience.
Spin the Bottle: Bumpie's Party.
Actually, it sold less than that and it's not very surprising. Fans of the series already own the PS2 or PS3 version and it's not a franchise that's appealing to the traditional Nintendo audience.
How depressing must it be to port something and then sell 1800 copies...
happens a lot these days, and not just on the wiiU either. and not just with ports, either. this industry is kind of fucked.
How depressing must it be to port something and then sell 1800 copies...
happens a lot these days, and not just on the wiiU either. and not just with ports, either. this industry is kind of fucked.
Thats crazy. Esp since so many companies think they are playing it safe by just copying what others do.
:bow :heart Keroppi :heart :bow2
http://www.gamespot.com/events/gamescom-2013/wonderful-101-originally-had-cast-of-all-star-nintendo-characters-6413388/
Oh Kamiya...you dun goofed.
Pikmin 3 was held up a bit in the US vs. the EU release too wasn't it? Dunno why they're staggering shit out like that.
I like how they repeat everything
"Select Hero Mode from the main screen!"
- shows Hero Mode being selected from the main screen
"In Hero Mode, you take double damage and hearts aren't replenished!"
- shows screen explaining that you take double damage and hearts aren't replenished
349 bundle with one of the worst zelda games thats over 10 years old ;(
Yeah, perfect bundle to jump in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL7OiHU6Y48
so what is the difference between the wind waker pack and the Wii U delux? HDD size and thats it?
PHASED OUT THE BASIC. WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL7OiHU6Y48
They should put this on TV now. Its distinguished mentally-challenged how awesome I find the prospect of owning that figure.
Also, I am SO SO DISAPPOINTED that this game won't have a re-orchestrated soundtrack. The fact they're doing a special Symphony of the Goddesses thing in Seattle for this game just rubs salt in the wounds.
“It’s all about the games. The competitive systems have announced their launch lineups. I’m allowed to say ‘Meh,’” Fils-Aime said. “I look at our lineup of titles and I feel good about our lineup. We’ve got Zelda. We’ve got Mario. We’ve got Donkey Kong. In addition to great titles like Pikmin 3 and Wonderful 101, I feel very good about our lineup."
Tee hee
“It’s all about the games. The competitive systems have announced their launch lineups. I’m allowed to say ‘Meh,’” Fils-Aime said. “I look at our lineup of titles and I feel good about our lineup. We’ve got Zelda. We’ve got Mario. We’ve got Donkey Kong. In addition to great titles like Pikmin 3and Wonderful 101, I feel very good about our lineup."
Tee hee
“It’s all about the games. The competitive systems have announced their launch lineups. I’m allowed to say ‘Meh,’” Fils-Aime said. “I look at our lineup of titles and I feel good about our lineup. We’ve got Zelda. We’ve got Mario. We’ve got Donkey Kong. In addition to great titles like Pikmin 3 and Wonderful 101, I feel very good about our lineup."
Isn't the PS4 going to launch with downloadable free to play games like Warframe and Blacklight?“It’s all about the games. The competitive systems have announced their launch lineups. I’m allowed to say ‘Meh,’” Fils-Aime said. “I look at our lineup of titles and I feel good about our lineup. We’ve got Zelda. We’ve got Mario. We’ve got Donkey Kong. In addition to great titles like Pikmin 3and Wonderful 101, I feel very good about our lineup."
Tee hee
What gets crossed off the list next? :hyper
i don't think they're going to move much, at least until mario is out in december, and even then, nah. the ps4 and the one are going to soak up any possible hype.
“I look at our lineup of titles and I feel good about our lineup. We’ve got Zelda. We’ve got Mario. We’ve got Donkey Kong."
“I look at our lineup of titles and I feel good about our lineup. We’ve got Zelda. We’ve got Mario. We’ve got Donkey Kong."
“I look at our lineup of titles and I feel good about our lineup. We’ve got Zelda. We’ve got Mario. We’ve got Donkey Kong."
“I look at our lineup of titles and I feel good about our lineup. We’ve got Zelda. We’ve got Mario. We’ve got Donkey Kong."
i don't think they're going to move much, at least until mario is out in december, and even then, nah. the ps4 and the one are going to soak up any possible hype.
Mario is November, and the WW bundle might do not-bad.
no one who is presently unconvinced is going to be swayed by tossing an HD version of a lower tier (saleswise) zelda game into the box.
as for Mario, someone here told me it was Dec. get your bloody stories straight.
I might cop that Zelda bundle, and just sell off the digital code for the much superior physical version.
I might cop that Zelda bundle, and just sell off the digital code for the much superior physical version.
It's probably preinstalled. :bow2
https://twitter.com/KazHiraiCEO/status/372761506665869312
:heh
I might cop that Zelda bundle, and just sell off the digital code for the much superior physical version.
It's probably preinstalled. :bow2
"I experienced the 'Oculus Rift' VR goggles. You'd have to experience it for yourself to understand, so I won't say much here, but I'm certain it'll be a hit in the near future. This, too, is a difference in [the nature of] media"
"Having a difference between consoles based on unique features is more fun." Sakurai remarks. "Rather than having technology converge as it becomes more advanced, I'd rather have things broaden and spread out for a market with many stimulating choices."
Just Kamiya himself or Platinum too? Might put the kibosh on that whole "Xbone Platinum exclusive" thing.
i think they do to an extent, but they could easily buy the know-how if they wanted. but yeah, they're obviously sticking to what sells. and ol' donkey kong, who's only been with the company during the good times, doesn't know how bad it can get, even with the ol' mainstays. he's used to crapping stuff out and it selling a couple million.
also, a crappy gaf post is nigh-indistinguishable from one of your posts.
Just found out about the launch Wii U "big boy" bundle at gamestop.
I'll never buy a Wii U now, ever. :-\
Someone asked him in an interview if he would like it if Platinum became a Nintendo second party, and he said sure. If someone asked him if he'd like it if Platinum became a Sony or Microsoft second party, he would say the same, I'm quite certain. People need to stop reading so much out of Kamiya's answers to questions.
The time for convincing publishers and developers to support Wii U has long past. The box is out. You have to do what Sony and Microsoft have been doing with us for a long time and it’s not that every time we met with them we got all the answers we wanted. But they involved us very early on, and talking to folks like Bethesda and Gearbox, they say ‘here’s what we’re doing, here’s what we’re planning, here’s how we think it’s going to work’ to hear what we thought – from our tech guys and from an experience standpoint.
You have to spend an unbelievable amount of time upfront doing that. If you’re just going sort off deciding ‘we’re going to make a box and this is how it works and you should make games for it.’ Well, no. No is my answer, I’m going to focus on other ones that better support what it is we’re trying to do. So you’ve gotta spend more time trying to reach out to those folks before you even make the box, when you’re still designing and thinking about how it’s going to work
Are they known douchebags? At least on the PC front, I've always been under the impression they're a fairly open company with good support. They always provide nice mod tools for their Fallout and ES games. I remember listening to a podcast Todd Howard was on back when Oblivion came out, and they were taking calls. People were really reaming them about the bugs and glitches, and I remember being pretty impressed with how openly he answered everything and didn't dodge a single criticism. Is the situation different on consoles?
Every PS3 game they've released has been released with a game-breaking memory leak that they're fully aware of. Each time they lie prior to release and say they fixed it this time. Then they send out the 360 version for reviews and apologize after for the shitty condition of the port. Every time.Even Oblivion? They had an outside company port that I believe.
Ah, I see. I've only played their games on PC or 360. The only one that ever gave me any real probs was New Vegas until they fixed it.
Can't even begin to imagine that what they're working on would even run on the WiiU anyway.
It's a fair jab, and definitely something Nintendo needs to pull their heads out of their arses on. That said, I'd sooner have someone closer to Nintendo say this. Bethesda has never really supported Nintendo, probably they wouldn't have even if Nintendo had done what they asked, and they're among the biggest douchebags in a very douchebaggy industry. It's very easy for Nintendo *and* their fans to ignore what they're saying as a result.
Polygamia also notes that twice as many people purchase a PS3 or 360………in just 3 days, as opposed to nine months. In 12 months, the PS3 and 360 will sale around 100k units. These are very drastic figures when you put it into perspective.
Heads up yall CACs. B2G1 deal will be run at Targets next week.
I guess the only 2 Wii U games worth buying are Pikmin 3 and Wonderful 101.
The free one worth it should be one of those, I guess?:
LEGO GTA/ Zombie U/ Super Luigi U
Note that Wind Waker HD gets released after this deal ends.
Are you really counting NES/ SNES games?
Are you really counting NES/ SNES games?
Anything I spent time and money on. Its 27 if we're counting strictly Wii U software. Still not too bad, considering there's not a single game among them I don't like. There's only about 9 or 10 of those that I could have bought on other consoles (in one or two cases I did actually double dip), but I concede - I could have gotten quite a lot of them on PC. I'm only posting details at all to illustrate that I'm fairly happy with the thing... I'd be happier with the first year if it'd had an Excite Truck or someting... if they'd laid out a proper vision of the future of their franchises instead of copying the 3DS playbook. But I'm finally starting to feel some value.
What about all those sisters you bought Wii Us for?spoiler (click to show/hide)Are they hot?[close]
Some people compared the sailing speed of the original Wind Waker to the new HD version. Takes about a 1/3rd of the time it used to and the wind changes direction automatically. Fewer triforce charts, down to only three.
Monster Hunter Ultimate on sale until 9/22 (Wii U = $29.99, 3DS = $19.99) (http://twitter.com/monsterhunter/status/380720433785753600)
To hunt or not to hunt ???
Go for it. I might cop the 3DS version myself.
“I thank Miyamoto for that, but he’s falling down on the job. And for the past five years that job has been taken over by a dead guy from Cupertino. We’ve asked for too much time, too much skill, and too much money, sometimes all at once. Customers today… are generally looking for a single fabric of play. They want their game where they want it, when they want it, and at a price they can defend to other people.”
-Richard Hilleman from EA.
This is delicious i wonder how GAF is taking this.
Judging by Twitter, very badly.
It's a good ol' case of painful truth, though. The whole quote is. Not just the part sliced out to make Nintards have a conniption.
So I'm the only one you follow with your IRL Twitter? :uguu
Well, I think I follow Cheesemeister, Vooks, and Reno on there, too. But sure, you're the specialest.
I can't ever recall reading a Cheesemeister joke on twitter :-\ He went a little crazy with region locking after the Persona Arena thing. I mean I'm against region locking too but wow. I almost unfollowed him at that point but eventually he put himself back together and moved most of that to another twitter account.
Speaking of Cheesy, where the fuck is my post TGS episode of RedSunGamer ??? I demand answers DCharlie :maf Is DJ in the hospital again :'( Guess everyone is too busy with MH4 and the new kiseki game to podcast :(
he only goes for the lowest hanging fruit. typically if he can make obvious puns involving nintendo games or back to the future, that's what he'll go for. and yeah, the region-locking thing was annoying. he has a tendency to special fellow out on things like that, but it's easy enough to filter out.
as for RSG, i think miz wanted to record the other night, but everyone's too busy playing MH4/Kiseki/FF14 as you guessed. and dc is probably pretty busy with his new jerb.
So I'm the only one you follow with your IRL Twitter? :uguu
Well, I think I follow Cheesemeister, Vooks, and Reno on there, too. But sure, you're the specialest.
.........................spoiler (click to show/hide):maf[close]
i wasn't aware you still wanted to be classified as a nintard, wrath.
all podcasts die sooner or later.
but rsg isn't dead by any means. i have a feeling it will go dc-less more often now, but the podcast probably won't die until miz gives it up, and i can't see that happening with so much exciting sony news he'd like to share.
wahp sadly died with nick's desire to live
all podcasts die sooner or later.
but rsg isn't dead by any means. i have a feeling it will go dc-less more often now, but the podcast probably won't die until miz gives it up, and i can't see that happening with so much exciting sony news he'd like to share.
wahp sadly died with nick's desire to live
Most depressing twitter account I follow :'( I hope he tells his story in-depth one day
i'm guessing his hollywood personality rubbed one of the japanese higher-ups the wrong way and he got the boot, and jp is probably the one who had to deliver the boot. but that's just my guess from the various twitter acocunts.
I wish I still worked at Platinum. I knew the people, the culture. Now I am nothing. I’m a stupid weeaboo stuck in limbo. (https://twitter.com/NickRoxNRX/status/381917021593538560)
JP?
Most depressing twitter account I follow :'( I hope he tells his story in-depth one day
i'm guessing his hollywood personality rubbed one of the japanese higher-ups the wrong way and he got the boot, and jp is probably the one who had to deliver the boot. but that's just my guess from the various twitter acocunts.
JP?
ehn, it'd be like trying to catch you up on wrestling storylines, andy. if you haven't been following the platinum/nick/jp/shidoshi/etc saga from the beginning, you're probably better off not bothering.
First I get made fun of for not knowing stuff.
Then you guys don't tell me stuff.
I'm fucked either way. :'(
First I get made fun of for not knowing stuff.
Then you guys don't tell me stuff.
I'm fucked either way. :'(
First I get made fun of for not knowing stuff.
Then you guys don't tell me stuff.
I'm fucked either way. :'(
Nick Rox (used to write for gamefan) was fired/let go from Platinum Games and is super depressed about it (this also forced him to leave Japan and come back to the US). He was also on a podcast I liked which is dead mostly because he is too depressed to record it.
My impression was the long work hours and isolation in Japan made him depressed which caused him to screw up at work somehow. Even before he was left he seemed pretty unhappy
Hopefully he works through his issues and comes to terms with what happened
First I get made fun of for not knowing stuff.
Then you guys don't tell me stuff.
I'm fucked either way. :'(
Nick Rox (used to write for gamefan) was fired/let go from Platinum Games and is super depressed about it (this also forced him to leave Japan and come back to the US). He was also on a podcast I liked which is dead mostly because he is too depressed to record it.
My impression was the long work hours and isolation in Japan made him depressed which caused him to screw up at work somehow. Even before he was left he seemed pretty unhappy
Hopefully he works through his issues and comes to terms with what happened
Thanks. I gathered the first part through this thread/Twitter (I do try to research this stuff before asking, guys.)
So he was a translator? And the tweet linked earlier makes me skeptical he was unhappy at Platinum, dude talks like his life revolved around it. Oscar's theory makes more sense.
Where does Shidoshi work into this, aside from also being from GameFan?
First I get made fun of for not knowing stuff.
Then you guys don't tell me stuff.
I'm fucked either way. :'(
Nick Rox (used to write for gamefan) was fired/let go from Platinum Games and is super depressed about it (this also forced him to leave Japan and come back to the US). He was also on a podcast I liked which is dead mostly because he is too depressed to record it.
My impression was the long work hours and isolation in Japan made him depressed which caused him to screw up at work somehow. Even before he was left he seemed pretty unhappy
Hopefully he works through his issues and comes to terms with what happened
Thanks. I gathered the first part through this thread/Twitter (I do try to research this stuff before asking, guys.)
So he was a translator? And the tweet linked earlier makes me skeptical he was unhappy at Platinum, dude talks like his life revolved around it. Oscar's theory makes more sense.
Where does Shidoshi work into this, aside from also being from GameFan?
First I get made fun of for not knowing stuff.
Then you guys don't tell me stuff.
I'm fucked either way. :'(
Nick Rox (used to write for gamefan) was fired/let go from Platinum Games and is super depressed about it (this also forced him to leave Japan and come back to the US). He was also on a podcast I liked which is dead mostly because he is too depressed to record it.
My impression was the long work hours and isolation in Japan made him depressed which caused him to screw up at work somehow. Even before he was left he seemed pretty unhappy
Hopefully he works through his issues and comes to terms with what happened
Thanks. I gathered the first part through this thread/Twitter (I do try to research this stuff before asking, guys.)
So he was a translator? And the tweet linked earlier makes me skeptical he was unhappy at Platinum, dude talks like his life revolved around it. Oscar's theory makes more sense.
Where does Shidoshi work into this, aside from also being from GameFan?
He also seems to indicate that he got no credit for his work on The Wonderful 101 and is bitter about it. I kept checking his tweets until I hit one saying something like "time to go to the local Gamestop up the street and apply for day to day work." That seemed incredibly depressing.
He also seems to indicate that he got no credit for his work on The Wonderful 101 and is bitter about it. I kept checking his tweets until I hit one saying something like "time to go to the local Gamestop up the street and apply for day to day work." That seemed incredibly depressing.
Shidoshi is just the co-host of the podcast I mentioned (WAHP). He also kinda passive-aggressively mentions on twitter every once in awhile Nick is the reason the podcast is done (just things like "Well *I'm* ready to record," etc...)
Thinking back on the podcast episodes recorded while he was still employed he seemed super stressed. I'm sure now he regrets it but I wouldn't be surprised if depression/stress made him snap at someone. Either way its not really that important or interesting but I do hope he gets better. In part because I'm selfish and want more podcasts but also because it sucks to see anyone so broken after loosing their dream job
He wrote for Gamefan, which was a magazine that ran until 2000 if I recall correctly.
If you want to familiarize yourself with the history and have several hours to burn/waste, check out this thread:
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/tnl/threads/33808-The-GameFan-history-thread
A lot of the stories there will show why (warranted or not) people seem to lose their shit over Nick Rox.
Maybe he has too much pride (although being a furry negates that lol)Well, his 'fursona' is a Lion, so...
Shidoshi is just the co-host of the podcast I mentioned (WAHP). He also kinda passive-aggressively mentions on twitter every once in awhile Nick is the reason the podcast is done (just things like "Well *I'm* ready to record," etc...)
Thinking back on the podcast episodes recorded while he was still employed he seemed super stressed. I'm sure now he regrets it but I wouldn't be surprised if depression/stress made him snap at someone. Either way its not really that important or interesting but I do hope he gets better. In part because I'm selfish and want more podcasts but also because it sucks to see anyone so broken after loosing their dream job
Yeah sounds pretty crappy. So you think he just wasn't prepared for the long hours in Japan? Hmm, Japan should try to fix that. But I guess it's cultural. *shrugs*
But I'm just a lazy American weeaboo, what right do I have to judge. :usacry
Shidoshi is just the co-host of the podcast I mentioned (WAHP). He also kinda passive-aggressively mentions on twitter every once in awhile Nick is the reason the podcast is done (just things like "Well *I'm* ready to record," etc...)
Thinking back on the podcast episodes recorded while he was still employed he seemed super stressed. I'm sure now he regrets it but I wouldn't be surprised if depression/stress made him snap at someone. Either way its not really that important or interesting but I do hope he gets better. In part because I'm selfish and want more podcasts but also because it sucks to see anyone so broken after loosing their dream job
Yeah sounds pretty crappy. So you think he just wasn't prepared for the long hours in Japan? Hmm, Japan should try to fix that. But I guess it's cultural. *shrugs*
But I'm just a lazy American weeaboo, what right do I have to judge. :usacry
Long work hours but also maybe a feeling of isolation. No matter how good is Japanese is I'm sure it was hard to connect with people and if you're working all the time you can't socialize with other expats. Plus I've heard a lot about journalists having a tough time going from writing to development. One day you're the big fish in the small pond and the next you're starting over. All the old GFW Radio guys have talked about it
Of course this is all speculation based on what I remember from old WAHP episodes. I'm probably completely off base
When he was still there he used to complain about the hours every time he was on, so it was probably a major factor. Coming home just to take a quick shower and then fall into bed doesn't sound great no matter where you are.
You don't know about Gamefan, Andrex? Are you in your early 20s? That was the 'hardcore' gaming magazine for a time in the mid 90s.
You don't know about Gamefan, Andrex? Are you in your early 20s? That was the 'hardcore' gaming magazine for a time in the mid 90s.
Basically. But wasn't GameFan Euro-only?
I was an EGM guy cause I liked their features, Hsu and Chan and Seanbaby.
I'm forever grateful for GameFan introducing me to Gunstar Heroes. One of the few games that actually entirely 100% lived up to their breathless hype.
I enjoyed when you could tell in the reviews that they realized they had given out too many 95-98 scores to games that month and started handing out 11s and stuff to boost the better games towards or over 100. And also picking out who was writing as two reviewers. And how the "articles" on the games would vary from like ten pages of endless praising or listing of everything in the game to one page with like a paragraph that barely described what the game was even about. But always every page was covered at least 60% in screenshots.
I also liked their rumor pages and trying to figure out which were semi-realistic and what was completely made up and insane to fill the pages. I had a friend who absolutely believed everything written in that section. This is probably part of why he bought a Jaguar and wondered where Street Fighter 3 and Mortal Kombat 3 were at in the "launch window."
wahp sadly died with nick's desire to live
but rsg isn't dead by any means. i have a feeling it will go dc-less more often now
this is like saying you'll never understand street sharks.:bow street sharks
I will never fucking understand the gamefan love, and I was around as a consumer back then. "Ooh, they're so earnest about games!" Yeah, earnestly, buttfuckingly stupid. There's something that really needs to be said for shutting up and doing your job like, you know, a fucking job: it's a great thing.
Then there's the whole "Halverson is a shady druggy" thing, but hey- he's so earnest about games! That's so great!
I forgot who started the whole shen long myth. Does anyone remember?
Fuck, Drinky vs. Gamefan alums was probably the best part of neogaf ever. He can still rustle their jimmies years and years after.
Fuck, Drinky vs. Gamefan alums was probably the best part of neogaf ever. He can still rustle their jimmies years and years after.
I don't remember this. :( Is that thread still available?
i think what's disturbing that even as spazzy, incoherent teenaged goons, nick and casey were still more credible as game reviewers than their 30-something mulleted boss -- a boss who, having no useful cognitive capacity of his own, badly aped them.
Forget these has been gaming rags
http://www.cubed3.com/news/19676/1/rumour-big-nintendo-wii-u-system-update-expected-for-october-1st.html
Possible Wii U update tomorrow :drool Finally a fix for youtube's freezing :omg
Plus another Direct :teehee
holy shit lol :nsfw :nsfw :nsfwvery jealous of this woman. what I wouldn't give to feel the wet, mucousy embrace of an octopus groping my loins :droolspoiler (click to show/hide)(http://i.imgur.com/d7sJfSzl.jpg)[close]
WW HD
i'm pretty sure the path of least effort is dumping the roms/isos onto the shop, as nintendo have nicely demonstrated over the past several years
and they certainly did a lot of no-work rom dumping over the last several years, more than anyone else, but if you've got a better example, i give the floor to you, sir.
Yeah there are limits, like the Wii SNES VC was never able to do Yoshi's Island cause of the custom chip (supposedly), but in the end it had better and more accurate timing/sounds/colors than decades-old emus like BSNES, ZNES, SNES9x, etc. I mean it certainly helps that Nintendo knows how they built their own systems, but it's still pretty impressive IMO.
Although it kinda sucks cause it even emulates the slowdown right, lol.
The reason why the Wii SNES VC "can't" do FX chip games is because Nintendo doesn't want to pay the licensing costs.
there are about 200 ps1 classic
you guys with jp nintendo systems feast like kings.
Yeah there are limits, like the Wii SNES VC was never able to do Yoshi's Island cause of the custom chip (supposedly), but in the end it had better and more accurate timing/sounds/colors than decades-old emus like BSNES, ZNES, SNES9x, etc. I mean it certainly helps that Nintendo knows how they built their own systems, but it's still pretty impressive IMO.
Although it kinda sucks cause it even emulates the slowdown right, lol.
well yeah but who owns a wiiU, you'd have to be a diehard nintard or a fool with too much money and oh i've done it again
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Donkey Kong was delayed? :what
Fuck this system.
Donkey Kong was delayed? :what
Fuck this system.
They say it needs more development time, but I sincerely doubt it. I played it at Eurogamer and it seems way polished already... my guess is they don't want it getting butt-ravaged at release by the likes of COD, their own pokemon games and the twin console releases. A demo would have at least been nice to fill the gap.
Link Between Worlds looks hot. Day 1.
The "any dungeon in any order" thing sounds like pure fanservice but it still sounds like a fresh take on things.
So is there a TLDR of this? I missed it.
I didn't understand if you could play dungeons in order to get items for free, or if the loop is: get money-> rent/buy item -> 'unlock' dungeon with item.
Iwata's resignation.
pff, i've been trolling that thing way better than you and i haven't so much as touched one!
But at least it's actually usable now thanks to OS improvements, and has a couple decent games (MH3U, WW HD, soon Mario, DK, Bayo, and third party ports like Watch Dogs, AssCreed 4, Arkham Origins, etc.) to play.
What is a Nintendo
What is a Nintendo
Youtube no longer works in the browser, i keep getting a "device is not supported" error message
lol so my blackberry is now more advanced than the weeeoooo? :heh
lol so my blackberry is now more advanced than the weeeoooo? :heh
Can your Blackberry play Mario? :smug
lol so my blackberry is now more advanced than the weeeoooo? :heh
Can your Blackberry play Mario? :smug
lol so my blackberry is now more advanced than the weeeoooo? :heh
Can your Blackberry play Mario? :smug
BerryNES exists so.... yes? :-*
A shitty Wario64 tweet?
Nintendo have plans to bring the MonoGame Framework to Wii U, Siliconera has learned. MonoGame is an open source implementation of the Microsoft XNA 4.x Framework, and has been used in the development of games like Bastion, Fez and Skulls of the Shogun.
Like Unity, the goal of the MonoGame Framework is to enable developers to efficiently create cross-platform games while re-using code. Monogame currently supports iOS, Android, Windows (with both DirectX and OpenGL solutions), Linux, Mac OS X, Windows Phone 8, PlayStation Mobile and Ouya.
Lol, that wasn't... nevermind.
Anyways, SHO!! (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=690253)QuoteNintendo have plans to bring the MonoGame Framework to Wii U, Siliconera has learned. MonoGame is an open source implementation of the Microsoft XNA 4.x Framework, and has been used in the development of games like Bastion, Fez and Skulls of the Shogun.
Like Unity, the goal of the MonoGame Framework is to enable developers to efficiently create cross-platform games while re-using code. Monogame currently supports iOS, Android, Windows (with both DirectX and OpenGL solutions), Linux, Mac OS X, Windows Phone 8, PlayStation Mobile and Ouya.
:rejoice
As long as Linux support is on the way I can deal. :bow2
NO!
I promised I'd buy this and I will. I forgot about it when I got my last paycheck but I'll buy it now. :heart
Edit- BOUGHT!
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how are you gonna play it? :shaq
how are you gonna play it? :shaq
www.steampowered.com/getwindows
As long as Linux support is on the way I can deal. :bow2
I'd send you a free code for the Steam version if you really want to play it that bad, it's sure to run on any Windows PC from the past seven or eight years
sho nuff, you start giving this dominican't handouts, you'll never get rid of him.
NO!
I promised I'd buy this and I will. I forgot about it when I got my last paycheck but I'll buy it now. :heart
Edit- BOUGHT!
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NO SADFACE, people who buy our game at full price are our most favorite people in the worldTill you stab them in the back!
Wind Waker is lovely, by the way. 10 year old memories flooding back. Feels good.
Windwaker was brave, but it was also where Zelda games really started going into the john by skimping on polish/development time.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkB53h2M5Pw
Twilight Princess was a craven return to OoT but had a lot more polish than WW and it makes a far better game as a result. Skyward is interesting because it's another sniveling return, but this time to the not-well-liked WW, right down to not giving it enough time in the oven. In hindsight there's no way it wasn't going to be the worst-selling main installment.
Twilight Princess is probably a better game, but I think they compromised from the outset to appease OOT fans and win some whoops and hollars at E3. Skyward Sword is more of a return to them doing what they want, but there is still an awkward compromise there...
I hope that in returning to Link to the Past and Wind Waker, before making the true Wii U game, the staff now have a feel for how confidently prior teams used to shake things up and how timeless a game can be when real colour, care, animation and love is put in. The Zelda team need their Mario Galaxy... something brave, like Wind Waker was at the time. It wasn't appreciated back then, but I think being a little bolder with the new game would go down well now.
skyward sword would've been better with less content, imo. can't imagine people liked fighting the same boss multiple times
Twilight Princess is probably a better game, but I think they compromised from the outset to appease OOT fans and win some whoops and hollars at E3. Skyward Sword is more of a return to them doing what they want, but there is still an awkward compromise there...
SS felt to me like they were kind of out of ideas.
"Let's make ANOTHER prequel showing the origins of Hyrule!" Did we really need to see this? Things work better when they stay mysterious. I mean it's good for fanfic writers but not as much for the series I think.
"Crap, what kind of art style should we have?" "Let's take the cel shading of WW and the proportions of TP and smash 'em together."
I like a lot of the gameplay enhancements in that game though. More loot-y than I expected and I liked it. (Along with standard enemies actually requiring a half second of thought to kill.)
What I disliked most about it was the lack of content. Felt like 1/3 of the game TP was, and that's being generous.
I hope that in returning to Link to the Past and Wind Waker, before making the true Wii U game, the staff now have a feel for how confidently prior teams used to shake things up and how timeless a game can be when real colour, care, animation and love is put in. The Zelda team need their Mario Galaxy... something brave, like Wind Waker was at the time. It wasn't appreciated back then, but I think being a little bolder with the new game would go down well now.
LttP2 looks uninspired. I said it. The original was my favorite game for a long long time but the new one looks... bland. I want it to be good but billing yourself as a sequel to the best 2D Zelda is not a good way to avoid high expectations.
You know that doesn't matter unless it's PC, XBone or PS4 right? No one gets a Wii U for online and sure as shit not for games people regularly play online on other consoles.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=694457
Desperate Nintendo. :rejoice
Was WW generally expected to bomb? I know it's a remake but I'd imagine many kids haven't played it before, making it new to them.
I still say there's something fishy about that 4.5m number. Final NPD tally plus final Famitsu tally totals up to just under 3 mill. Did it really do 1.5 million in EU?
Looks great!
Sadly I have no incentives to re-play the game again (it is quite long). I've beaten all mainline DQ games (1-9) and really, really, really do not like the idea of replaying those games again from scratch.
Oscar, your insight on where DQ11 will end up? 3DS is a lock, no?
this post, much like dq11 will be, is not exclusive to one place.
Yeah the Celtic-y jams in WW were pretty cool. Between this thread and watching the GB quick look I kind of want to play it again.
The Wii U has confirmed games to run native 1920x1080p at 60 frames per second: Super Smash Bros. U, Bayonetta 2, Mario Kart 8 and Rayman Legends. So we have about six next-gen games running 1080p at 60fps for the Wii U, and even if you want to knock off Wind Waker HD as a remake and a game that's not a real next-gen title, that's fine. We still have a nice cache of games on the Wii U that are native 1080p to prove its case.
On the other side of the coin, we look at a list of games running 1080p and/or 60fps for the Xbox One and PS4 and things slim down drastically, almost to the point of non-existence.
But holy fuck do downloads take forever. That first update...took 2 hours. Fucking hell.
But holy fuck do downloads take forever. That first update...took 2 hours. Fucking hell.
Which of my wii u owning euro-bore brethren preordered and is playing Sonic: Lost World ??? I want to know if the nights pre-order levels are worth it.
Game looks alright and I haven't played a sonic game since 3D Blast on my Genesis. About time I gave new sonic a shot. That said if the pre-order levels are shit I might just hold off until its cheaper
missing out on mario 3d world?
:ufup
It might actually be better and MORE FUN than the vastly overrated Galaxy games.
New WiiU deluxe set, replaces the current one. Now you get NSMBU + NSLU on a single disc
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Why the Wii U is the best next-gen choice this Christmas. (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-10-26-the-strongest-next-gen-line-up-from-the-unlikeliest-source)Wii U is next gen?
:rejoice
Buying a WiiU aint a bad choice if you've nver owned a Wii - I think Wii had a decent library now. Being able to play them on WiiU is a plus.I'm struggling to see why you'd pick one up now rather than in 2 or 3 years time for $99 and after most of its worthwhile first party games are out. At $300 it's simply not even close to being worth the money. It's not like it even has any worthwhile online games so you're not missing out by playing these games a few years later.
Buying a WiiU aint a bad choice if you've nver owned a Wii - I think Wii had a decent library now. Being able to play them on WiiU is a plus.I'm struggling to see why you'd pick one up now rather than in 2 or 3 years time for $99 and after most of its worthwhile first party games are out. At $300 it's simply not even close to being worth the money. It's not like it even has any worthwhile online games so you're not missing out by playing these games a few years later.
What's the word about Lost World? Generations was awesome, is this good or typical shitty Sonic?
Don't worry, millions upon millions of units will be sold when Mario 3D World comes out.
WiiU GPU specs(according to bgassassin).
160 ALUs, 8 TMUs, 8 ROPs
Must be cheap.
Or an unborn fetus winning the special Olympics.
Or an unborn fetus winning the special Olympics.
Indies :rejoice
Ghosts' game population is looking better than BO2 after only a few days though, it seemed to take BO2 to take months to achieve a couple of thousands and people only seemed to play TDM... people are actually playing the other modes now. If it can keep adding some more people over christmas, it should be a healthier multiplayer than BO2 Wii U was. I seem to have ten people on my friends list (gaffers mostly) who are playing it at any one time too, which is nice.
Indies :rejoice
Wait, are you saying that's all Weeoo has left
it's the wiiuta defense
Does the weeoooauuu even really have indie support doe
Does the weeoooauuu even really have indie support doe
don't even curr, super mario 3d world looks :aah
andy, name some good indie games coming to wiiu
Oh, Shadow of the Eternals!What, they found a schmuck to give them money after all?
I'm sure some Nintendo fan on gaf could list off the 30 or whatever indie games announced for the wii u. I just hope they start coming out soon. I picked up Cloudberry Kingdom tonight because I was in the mood to use my wii u more and its impressive how little comes out on a weekly bases. Anyway in terms of upcoming indies I'm pretty excited for Unepic. Its already on steam but it seems like it would work well on the gamepad so I'll hold out for now. I might just grab it during the winter sales though.
In other news I suck at Sonic :'( I ran out of lives in Lost World by the third stage which is really annoying because after you die it kicks you back to the main menu and it takes a minute or two to get back to the stage. I ended up playing the first level several times to keep grabbing an easy 1up :(
post your nintendo name, we can play mario 3d world online when it hits...oh
I'm pretty sure 3DWorld is going to be my GOTY. Going by the videos, the amount of variety and work and pumped into it took me by surprise.
post your nintendo name, we can play mario 3d world online when it hits...oh
I'm pretty sure 3DWorld is going to be my GOTY. Going by the videos, the amount of variety and work pumped into it took me by surprise.
>thinks newest zelda looks redundant and piggybacking off of nostalgia
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> continues to buy and shill pokemon every year
:snoop
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgjUiL6sKe4
:aah
>thinks newest zelda looks redundant and piggybacking off of nostalgia
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> continues to buy and shill pokemon every year
:snoop
Good thing it'll still be there along with not much else next year $100 less after a redesign ;)
argh, I want to play the new Mario but really don't want to buy a Wuu
Calling it Wii U and repping the tablet controller first did more damage. So many people thought and maybe still think that it's just an accessory.Good thing it'll still be there along with not much else next year $100 less after a redesign ;)
It does desperately need a redesign doesnt it? I dunno why on Earth they thought having a console looking exactly the same as its predecessor be a good idea.
Yeah they really screwed themselves with the tablet. I can see one of several things happening.1. Giving up on consoles altogether and going all handheld, with optional video out.2. Trying to get AMD to design them a SoC so they can join the console party.(next console yes)
3. Price drop to $200,get rid of the tablet, and bundle Wii Fit U and mario or something.4. Nintendo on smartphones.
If I can get a Wii U during holiday sales for $200 I might go for it.
ITT: Radiohead continues to care way, way too much
:what :what :what :what :what :what :what
(http://i.imgur.com/uTH7VO3.png)Yeah they really screwed themselves with the tablet. I can see one of several things happening.1. Giving up on consoles altogether and going all handheld, with optional video out.2. Trying to get AMD to design them a SoC so they can join the console party.(next console yes)
3. Price drop to $200,get rid of the tablet, and bundle Wii Fit U and mario or something.4. Nintendo on smartphones.
If I can get a Wii U during holiday sales for $200 I might go for it.
Ready your TLDR;s
I try not to opine too much on the future of Nintendo, as being an obvious enthusiast you just get written off, but I don't see any of that stuff happening. If only because they'll resist those kind of moves to the end.
For me:
- Start planning the next console, abandon current architecture and backwards comatability completely
- learn from Sony here, and do whatever is efficient and cost effective. Keep shooting for the cheaper family-friendly end of the market.
They have united the handheld and home console R&D teams in Japan, so it sounds like this might actually happen.- Drop the price again whenever possible.
- FIX relations with their distributors and retail. Call of Duty ghosts behind the counter and not on the shop floor with other versions, UK supermarkets withdrawing shelf space, modest promotion in Game-dedicated outlets. They need to pump money here hard. They've got a deal for the holidays with Tesco in the UK, and that's the kind of thing they need to do everywhere. If they don't act, they will lose retail altogether. It's going to cost them money, but they need to do it.
- Drive synergy with 3DS. Create benefits for owning both. Market Wii U content on 3DS more and vice versa, exploit the new 3DS Miiverse update. Now that they're merging wallets and NNIDs, they need to reconsider cross-buy and how Virtual Console ownership works.
- Consider 'companion' apps on Smartphones. They've already released a pokedex, stuff like that really can't harm anyone and can help market systems and software. Its ugly to have unlockables in games tied to companion apps, but they could create benefits that go both ways. If that kind of thing was successful, there's no reason they couldn't do a Google and start partnering on hardware with the likes of Acer, Samsung or HTC etc. They're already sort of working with Acer through iGware.
Personally, I think the only reason the console isn't cheap at the moment is because they stuck with an evolution of the Gamecube / Wii architecture. The gamepad is a dumb terminal with speakers and a screen, and I doubt it costs all that much -- the clever software trickery that keeps the latency low and the artifacting to a minimum is a one-off payment. You can't save the money on that R&D by axing it now.
They stayed with familiar tech for BC -- which I don't think many people actually care about. You can see their rationale - 100 million Wiis, 880 million Wii games, a metric fuck tonne of plastic remotes, balance boards and wheels etc. Why make the controllers compatible and not the games? It makes sense - but they're essentially making IBM work on updating an old line instead of pumping out a variation of something that they currently already produce in large quantities. That costs money. Their GPU choice was to compensate for that by adding something that would do general purpose processing on the GPU as well, and they through in a separate DSP for audio and the wireless streams. Unfortunately, their desire to stay small, quiet, cool and super-low-watt has means that what they've put in is basically an evolution of one of AMD's embedded components. That's the reason early games and ports haven't easily breezed past PS360 games. Again, you can see the rationale -- the original Wii was also small, quiet and unobtrusive. I just don't think many people care about size or the fact its 35w... even Japan doesn't seem to care.
Next generation, with a digital market taking over, they need to ditch hardware BC... unless of course, its really cheap to do. It hamstrings the rest of the hardware, and the reward is just not great enough. Hence Microsoft and Sony not bothering with it.
Actually owning a Wii U, I don't have a problem with Nintendo's own games, the gamepad itself, or even the power of the system -- but I recognise its not attractive to others yet. I see no reason that it can't be an attractive companion system. The absolute priority has to be to bring the price down as fast as possible, while continuing to pump out games. Wii U needs some of the first party love 3DS has been getting. There's a 10/10 brand new Zelda game coming out on the 3DS next week, and we have no idea when we can expect similar on Wii U. Everything we've been given so far is overly-familiar, we need to start seeing some more unique stuff.
I was in the Pachter 20m-is-a-dream thread on GAF recently, and I saw some guy say PAST PERFORMANCE IS NOT INDICATIVE OF FUTURE RESULTS (in caps, just like that) repeatedly. I think that possibly works both ways. Wii's past success couldn't be banked on, but I don't think you can say with certainty, that its going to continue being a total failure. Wii U is trending below Gamecube at the moment, but unlike Gamecube, its firmware upgradeable, has a much better online system, a lot of good software yet to come, and potential for a proper co-existence with 3DS.
Speaking of that, I've always thought that one of Nintendo's biggest hurdles has been that their Gameboy / DS customers are not necessarily their home console customers. You can have one and not the other, and be perfectly happy. Even right on this page I am seeing someone say that they wished 3D World was a 3DS title. Good. That's the kind of frustration they need to cause more often. If they can get 3DS owners to play similar but far better games on Wii U, they will win some people over IMO. GC never really leveraged GBA, because they had to sell you cables or the Gameboy Player. With Miiverse and NNIDs effectively merging their online eco-systems, they have a true mechanism through which to monitor and market for the first time. I expect to see Sony bundling the Vita in with PS4 at some point in the coming years, and I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo start doing similar - perhaps offering discounts for people who buy one or the other.
That's the kind of thing I'd be doing anyway. But Nintendo will probably release Donkey Kongs Heart Rhythm Scanner or something.
TLDR. do they fuck or notRadiohead and Nintendo? The answer is yes. :goty2
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Dire.
Gonna pick me one up ths weekend. Looking for a NSMBU+NSLU bundle.
I wouldnt doubt retailers are holding inventory for BF.
Wii U
Wii U
I think this one more accurately represents the Wii U:
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Born distinguished mentally-challenged and died within months... better to have not been born at all.
(http://i.imgur.com/EOQ6rs1.png)That comic is pretty apt for the Wii U since it appears there is only 1 more year piece to slide over.
Happy birthday... (http://i.imgur.com/QVhqXXv.png)
That comic is pretty apt for the Wii U since it appears there is only 1 more year piece to slide over.
:lol Shaka did you Photoshop that.
All joking aside, I've been enjoying my Wii U. I got the Deluxe for $200 (+ free Wind Waker HD from a friend) and at that price, it feels a bit expensive but not unbelievable. Mario 3D World this Friday is gonna be pretty great.
$300 is crazy but $200 + good pack-in is acceptable.
The tablet controller is kinda stupid however.
I don't know what you all are going on about. The Wii U has already lasted longer than my 32X did
Can't ask for more than than
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I don't know what you all are going on about. The Wii U has already lasted longer than my 32X did
Can't ask for more than than
Whatever. The 32X had the greatest line up of games ever, people just wouldn't give it a chance. Star Wars Arcade, Virtua Racing, CHAOTIX!
I don't know what you all are going on about. The Wii U has already lasted longer than my 32X did
Can't ask for more than than
Whatever. The 32X had the greatest line up of games ever, people just wouldn't give it a chance. Star Wars Arcade, Virtua Racing, CHAOTIX!
Still home to the only hummingbird based shooter in existence.
Wait, now they're positioning it as an upgrade?
:kobeyuck
"The rest of the game holds up really well, especially the character models."
Yet your first example is an ogre that would really need redone texture work. :comeon
those pics :noah
Twilight Princess :bow2
Wind Waker :piss2
Yeah, as much as I like the game, a vast ocean isn't exactly exciting. They took Hyrule field and expanded it tenfold. The two cut dungeons hurt it more though.spoiler (click to show/hide)Although I have been enjoying WW. It feels a lot more insubstantial than I remember tho.[close]
This is Mario like you’ve never seen him before, and unlike so many of his next-gen rivals, he nips along at an effortless 60fps. If the true measure of new hardware’s worth is how stark the difference is between it and what came before, then this is the most next-gen game that 2013 has yet produced.
Edge: 9/10 (http://www.edge-online.com/review/super-mario-3d-world-review/)
SM3DW gets perfect scores.Still on Knack, huh? Keep fighting the good fight.
LMAO @ Knack
I think 3ds will pick up in third party now that MonHun 4 is out
what I've played @ Pottery Barn was awesome.
what I've played @ Pottery Barn was awesome.
WTF, that wasn't a joke? They really did have kiosks there? :lol
Nintards were claiming Super Mario Galaxy looked better than the PS3 and 360 games out at the time. Not surprised six years later they're trying to pull that kind of laughable shit again.
Well if you like 60 fps games and platformers Wii U has you covered.
Having an artistic background and appreciation for visual aesthetic = having aspergers?
:what
It has already been made clear that Andrex and I are among the most visual people on the forum due to our professions so it makes sense.
Sure guys, you go ahead and keep on keeping on
:hitler
Having an artistic background and appreciation for visual aesthetic = having aspergers?
:what
It has already been made clear that Andrex and I are among the most visual people on the forum due to our professions so it makes sense.
I paint(DON'T JUDGE ME) so no. The new Mario looks great but that doesn't invalidate the existence of "realistic" graphics. Using "it's colorful!!" as a reason to justify buying inferior hardware, let alone calling people "non-visual" for preferring more powerful hardware, is a strange claim to make.spoiler (click to show/hide)I'm using "apostrophes"[close]
I paint(DON'T JUDGE ME)
:what
Mario looks great but I dunno why you would compare it to BF4. BF4 with colorful pastel colors would look just as dumb as Mario in a dark, greyish world.
It's not like there aren't already HD games like Knack for a more valid comparison to be made.
Next up, do all Wii controllers work with Wii U? I lent out my Wii along with a Classic Controller Pro and Wiimotes. Should I grab that stuff back. I know the Wiimotes work but what about the CC Pro?
Wii U can only support one Gamepad so I'd rather let my family and friends play with the Pro controller instead of a Wiimote.
Next up, do all Wii controllers work with Wii U? I lent out my Wii along with a Classic Controller Pro and Wiimotes. Should I grab that stuff back. I know the Wiimotes work but what about the CC Pro?
Some games use the Gamepad only, some games let you use the Wiimotes, some games let you use the CC Pro, some games let you use the Wii U Pro Controller, it's a grab bag. You have to check the back of the box to see what controllers you're allowed to use.
Dunno. I'm planning to buy it in a week with Mario but I won't have that many controllers to check anyway.Wii U can only support one Gamepad so I'd rather let my family and friends play with the Pro controller instead of a Wiimote.
Can you use two Wiimotes or two Pro controllers simultaneously?
Question because I'm going a bit nuts and doing all my xmas shopping right now:
Ok, so I got NSMB U, Luigi U, Mario 3D World, Pikmin 3, W101. Any other Wii U games worth playing? Demi listed Zombi U in his "want to get" and I see it's only $22 at Amazon right now. Is that a legit, good game?
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Also on the 3DS topic, pretty much the only 3DS noteable game I don't own is Luigi's Mansion 3DS, is that worth getting or is it a tech demo?
Question because I'm going a bit nuts and doing all my xmas shopping right now:
Ok, so I got NSMB U, Luigi U, Mario 3D World, Pikmin 3, W101. Any other Wii U games worth playing? Demi listed Zombi U in his "want to get" and I see it's only $22 at Amazon right now. Is that a legit, good game?
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Also on the 3DS topic, pretty much the only 3DS noteable game I don't own is Luigi's Mansion 3DS, is that worth getting or is it a tech demo?
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate.
Also, yes, Luigi's definitely worth getting.
If that whole Bayonetta 1 port to Wii U thing works, I wonder what Nintendo fans will blame when it comes out and sells 4000 copies.
If that whole Bayonetta 1 port to Wii U thing works, I wonder what Nintendo fans will blame when it comes out and sells 4000 copies.It should be digital only.
:rofl
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=726565
Is this the greatest single ass raping in video game sales history?
Mario sonned by Knack :neogaf
Im kinda sad Andrex has given up on his ninfaggetry a little, because this board could really use a wii u defender right now
:tocry 3rd party Nintendo tho?
BrandNew is still here.
Im kinda sad Andrex has given up on his ninfaggetry a little, because this board could really use a wii u defender right now
:tocry 3rd party Nintendo tho?
Uh, Radioheadrule is a pretty insufferable nintard too. :-*Im kinda sad Andrex has given up on his ninfaggetry a little, because this board could really use a wii u defender right now
:tocry 3rd party Nintendo tho?
BrandNew is still here.
We need someone like maxy or MCD or Methodis but for Nintendo. BrandNew and I are basically Olivio to their fattening thick anal butter.
Never forget:Uh, Radioheadrule is a pretty insufferable nintard too. :-*Im kinda sad Andrex has given up on his ninfaggetry a little, because this board could really use a wii u defender right now
:tocry 3rd party Nintendo tho?
BrandNew is still here.
We need someone like maxy or MCD or Methodis but for Nintendo. BrandNew and I are basically Olivio to their fattening thick anal butter.
Smiles and Cries shoulda be renamed Cries and Cries.
He would. But I'd probably let him because damn that fucker needed to get laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiid somehow.
He would. But I'd probably let him because damn that fucker needed to get laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiid somehow.
You're saying this as if you've solved that. :gurl
It's actually the opposite. All humans have problems in their lives; this is what happens when you have very real problems in your life. I hope you're doing okay Radio, you have a really good sense of humor looking at your Vine.
Nintendo announcement at the Spike VGAs is looking more and more like Cranky Kong in DK which was already leaked by amazon :ufup
Nintendo announcement at the Spike VGAs is looking more and more like Cranky Kong in DK which was already leaked by amazon :ufup
http://kotaku.com/man-arrested-for-allegedly-threatening-to-kill-nintendo-1468106203?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Twitter&utm_source=Kotaku_Twitter&utm_medium=Socialflow
Japan bore. Who was this?
Cause it's feggity and I suck at it.
Mario losing to Knack isn't necessarily the worst thing in the world
Considering getting my kid a Wii U for Christmas hmmm
QuoteMario losing to Knack isn't necessarily the worst thing in the world
However, i can tell you know that anyone suggesting this would happen -before- Mario 3D came out would have been laughed at by most.
Considering getting my kid a Wii U for Christmas hmmm
Be one of those special fellow dads that forces your kids to play NES games first, so they can have a proper appreciation for the medium before they're allowed to play new games.
Yes, but it was bundled together with a system that's sold out until February in Europe.QuoteMario losing to Knack isn't necessarily the worst thing in the world
However, i can tell you know that anyone suggesting this would happen -before- Mario 3D came out would have been laughed at by most.
Sorry, missed this- did Knack actually sell more copies than 3D World?
Considering getting my kid a Wii U for Christmas hmmm
Is there like a buying guide I could read for this thing somewhere? I'm confused what controllers and shit I need because Nintendo loves to sell extra crap.
Wii U pro controller might be the most well rounded controller Nintendo's ever made. It feels amazing to hold, the rumble is absurdly powerful, and it lasts 80 fucking hours on a single charge. Gotdamn.
Best $25 I ever spent thanks to that BB deal a few months ago.
Wii U pro controller might be the most well rounded controller Nintendo's ever made. It feels amazing to hold, the rumble is absurdly powerful, and it lasts 80 fucking hours on a single charge. Gotdamn.
Best $25 I ever spent thanks to that BB deal a few months ago.
It's a damn shame it's optional and the gamepad thingy is required.
I just got a second-hand Wii U
The process of setting up my NNID is nothing short of moronic. "Please enter your NNID name." "Now your password." "Now enter the email address the NNID name is attached to." WHAT?
Don't you have access to all the games purchased on this Wii U by the previous owner now or something b?
Speaking of that, what time does the apocalypse start?
Speaking of that, what time does the apocalypse start?
About 10 seconds before GAF goes down for scheduled maintenance.
So far about 80% of my Weeoo experience has been firmware updates and installing things
I have made a terrible mistake
I'm going to suggest there isn't much they could have done to keep those people, considering where they ended up.
I'm going to suggest there isn't much they could have done to keep those people, considering where they ended up.
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He's using the table code. Remember tables? They're back!
He's using the table code. Remember tables? They're back!
:kobeyuck
New Nintendo direct.
3 p.m CET
According to the Big N, Wii U and 3DS titles due out by spring 2014 will be showcased. That likely means we’ll be seeing more of Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, Kirby Triple Deluxe, and more.
Yawn.
You constantly call them "Big N." You're not "yawning", motherfucker. I can smell the stench of your wet panties all the way from here.
What's not to be excited about?
What's not to be excited about?
No RPG for me it seems anyway. :(
What's not to be excited about?
No RPG for me it seems anyway. :(
Won't be Zelda stuffs for a while, two just came out.
- Chibi Robo 3DS
Yes
- Smash (Rosalina/Luma)
You're not going to get any big character announcements
and a not so good one (Tekken Tag 2 nintendo stuff).
and a not so good one (Tekken Tag 2 nintendo stuff).
Didn't have Zelda, which is why Nintenyearolds didn't buy it. While Soul Calibur 2 did and when it didn't get a Nintendo port for 2:HD they whined about the lack of Zelda.
So, yes: "If that's what it takes to get people to try third party titles" I guess Nintendo needs to whore Link out everywhere.
and a not so good one (Tekken Tag 2 nintendo stuff).
Didn't have Zelda, which is why Nintenyearolds didn't buy it. While Soul Calibur 2 did and when it didn't get a Nintendo port for 2:HD they whined about the lack of Zelda.
So, yes: "If that's what it takes to get people to try third party titles" I guess Nintendo needs to whore Link out everywhere.
Tag 2 Wii U had Zelda stuff in it.
Jesus christ. I know it's a japan studio but are 2006 level graphics really too much to ask forPretty sure Koei still thinks everything is the PS2
dynasty warriors :yuck
and a not so good one (Tekken Tag 2 nintendo stuff).
Didn't have Zelda, which is why Nintenyearolds didn't buy it. While Soul Calibur 2 did and when it didn't get a Nintendo port for 2:HD they whined about the lack of Zelda.
So, yes: "If that's what it takes to get people to try third party titles" I guess Nintendo needs to whore Link out everywhere.
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:dead
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If it is an entire DW game based on Hyrule, who else are you gonna play as?
- Link
- Sheik
- Uh..........
(http://i.imgur.com/4HbXTMg.jpg)Possibly the most human-looking NPC in that game.
If it is an entire DW game based on Hyrule, who else are you gonna play as?
- Link
- Sheik
- Uh..........
If it is an entire DW game based on Hyrule, who else are you gonna play as?
- Link
- Sheik
- Uh..........
-Wind Waker Link
-Zelda
-Tingle
Wow, desperate Nintendo is getting kinda stupid.
AssCreed 6 U to be set in Hyrule, confirmed.
:sabu wii u having assassins creed 6 is wishful thinking.
If it is an entire DW game based on Hyrule, who else are you gonna play as?
- Link
- Sheik
- Uh..........
-Wind Waker Link
-Zelda
-Tingle
If it is an entire DW game based on Hyrule, who else are you gonna play as?
- Link
- Sheik
- Uh..........
I like Link's dapper blue scarf :himu
(http://i.imgur.com/w9Jbipv.png)
NEW ZELDA MUSOU CHARACTER REVEALED(http://i.imgur.com/p0WockU.gif)spoiler (click to show/hide)(http://i.imgur.com/bjJMejS.png)[close]spoiler (click to show/hide)I had to use the "Blur" filter on the Cranky Kong elements to make them match the picture better. :-\[close]
Anyone else notice that Link's face stays creepily static throughout that video?
Cant get over how bad this game looks. Its like a Morrowind mod :holeup is all Musou trash this ugly?
Something else that was pointed out- musou games are usually filled with character dialogue. Is Link going to talk?
I dont get all this Cranky Kong stuff. What did I miss?
Dialogue will make this the Other M of Zelda games, I'm looking forward to how bad it is. I think the game will be fun though..
NES Remix is awesome. They should do a Gameboy Remix for 3DS or something.
Asked whether From Software and Namco ever considered a Wii U port, Miyazoe bluntly replies: “No.” When asked why, he explodes with laughter. “Wii U never came up, and we never doubted that (decision) either,” he says. “It was more of a company decision, so I wasn’t the one that decided this, but I think the audience for the Wii U is a lot different from the audience for Dark Souls.”:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Nope, which is why I haven't bought any and I won't be transferring my Wii stuff onto the Wii U
Fuck. I wanna play Xenoblade during the break and the Wiimote controls sucks Andrex balls. I guess I'm gonna try a good deal on both, possibly dingy used one.
Fuck. I wanna play Xenoblade during the break and the Wiimote controls sucks Andrex balls. I guess I'm gonna try a good deal on both, possibly dingy used one.
I am not supporting Hyrule Warriors.
>Implying the Wii U won't be cancelled by then.I don't know about that. If Iwata isn't forced out by the shareholders, I could really see him riding the Wii U bomb to 2016.
Fuck. I wanna play Xenoblade during the break and the Wiimote controls sucks Andrex balls. I guess I'm gonna try a good deal on both, possibly dingy used one.
How do you not have a Classic Controller?
Also Best Buy's had the white Pro Controller at half off ($20) a couple times this year, that's how I got mine.
Fuck. I wanna play Xenoblade during the break and the Wiimote controls sucks Andrex balls. I guess I'm gonna try a good deal on both, possibly dingy used one.
How do you not have a Classic Controller?
Also Best Buy's had the white Pro Controller at half off ($20) a couple times this year, that's how I got mine.
The Pro controller isn't going to help him play Xenoblade.
>Implying the Wii U won't be cancelled by then.I don't know about that. If Iwata isn't forced out by the shareholders, I could really see him riding the Wii U bomb to 2016.
Buy a Wii Classic Controller Pro, Shaka.
Wonderful 101 is $30 at Target (bring cash) and GameStop right now.
Wonderful 101 is $30 at Target (bring cash) and GameStop right now.http://www.target.com/p/wonderful-101-nintendo-wii-u/-/A-14619637#prodSlot=medium_1_1&term=wonderful+101
Wonderful 101 is $30 at Target (bring cash) and GameStop right now.
So I bought Nintendoland for $20. Seems $19 too much.
QuoteSo I bought Nintendoland for $20. Seems $19 too much.
it took months but i grew to quite like nintendoland - i am serious as well.
QuoteSo I bought Nintendoland for $20. Seems $19 too much.
it took months but i grew to quite like nintendoland - i am serious as well.
:comeon
Then again I haven't even taken mine out of the shrink wrap yet lol.
Not a Yakuza fan I take it?
Besides, we've all had questionable games we liked/loved when we were kids.
he likes the choroQ/road trip games, animal crossing, pokemon, wii music/play/sports/party, nintendoland, chibi robo, minecraft, world of tanks, mario (2D games ONLY), setting up chain explosions in GTA games, and the old pinball machine Taxi. he occasionally shows interest in better games but after he plays 2-3 mins of them he gives up. he hates hard games, has no interest in non-pokemon rpgs, and dislikes fighting games.
like, if you made a venn diagram of our tastes in games it would be all the games he likes on one side, all the games i like on another, and a tiny sliver called super mario bros. in the middle.
WII MUSIC, MAN :fbm
after playing it for a while yesterday i can report that it's fuck-awful
My Dad would play a few 2600 games. He loved River Raid.
Bought my kids the Wii U.
Pikman 3
Both the 2D Mario games (packed in)
Disney Infinity
I'm not sure about Infinity. It looks like one of those games that you dick around with for 10-15 hours and then never touch again. My wife wanted to buy it for them, because she has that Disney hard-on.
How old are they? Pikmin might be way too advanced for them. Should have got Mario World instead.
Mario World is full priced and low on stock errwhere. :noah
Sounds like I have to drop a $60 on this mofo.
heh, my mother hated games, still does. you can't play a video game in her line of sight or she goes postal. my dad didn't hate me playing them, but he didn't have any interest in them apart from the idea that he could ground me off them for months at a time to get me to do things. my dad tried to get me interested in his hobbies: aviation, astronomy, and such, but the only thing that really stuck was his interest in computers and star trek. and man those were totes valuable to my social life THANKS DAD.
Not a Yakuza fan I take it?
Besides, we've all had questionable games we liked/loved when we were kids.
he likes the choroQ/road trip games, animal crossing, pokemon, wii music/play/sports/party, nintendoland, chibi robo, minecraft, world of tanks, mario (2D games ONLY), setting up chain explosions in GTA games, and the old pinball machine Taxi. he occasionally shows interest in better games but after he plays 2-3 mins of them he gives up. he hates hard games, has no interest in non-pokemon rpgs, and dislikes fighting games.
like, if you made a venn diagram of our tastes in games it would be all the games he likes on one side, all the games i like on another, and a tiny sliver called super mario bros. in the middle.
WII MUSIC, MAN :fbm
omg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL99dJc7Zhk
omg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL99dJc7Zhk
What the hell?
I finished W101 (fun game, full whimsy and bugs) and now I've moved onto WW HD with short bursts of 3DW in between. I hate to sound like a ninthing, but I'm pretty much in gaming bliss right now. Haven't enjoyed myself like this in a while.
I also learned that Shaka gets aggy when you're sandbagging in a game and not paying attention :hitler
Joe, I swear I didn't! This mofo let's requests expire after 30 day. You must have sent it when it was in my closet. :(
Edit: Accepted!
:lol
Colors and contrast were off. Lay off, breh. Though what really bugged me that day was the gamepad fucking dying on us, then not being able to play some games, like W101. It doesn't support a regular USB charger, nor the nearly similar 3DS charger. I really saw the huge drawback of this system's setup— requiring 4 different cords for it to function is just rediculous.
Add me, my love. I have been playing Luigi U.
Wonderful 101 is fantastic, and it's definitely a Kamiya game through and through, but boy if it didn't have its share of issues that a lot have glossed over (then again they're the same crowd who believe Kid Icarus was flawless). You can tell it needed a to cook a couple more months in the oven and that it was made by someone with ADHD.
Playing games off-TV on the GamePad. :lawd
So what if it's 480p? Good enough for Wii, good enough for me.
Er... you can press R to twirl on the gamepad too?
Wonderful 101 is fantastic, and it's definitely a Kamiya game through and through, but boy if it didn't have its share of issues that a lot have glossed over (then again they're the same crowd who believe Kid Icarus was flawless). You can tell it needed a to cook a couple more months in the oven and that it was made by someone with ADHD.
I feel as though all it needed was a better tutorial at the opening - and maybe a better demo that more thoroughly taught people. I think maybe they should have released a demo that led up to a tweaked Ohrowchee battle (001-C) -- its a good varied battle with on rails shooter, twin headed boss battle and free-falling climax that uses a few of the different formations. It looks and feels cool to play when you know what you're doing - so maybe something like that with a few tutorial prompts would have made a better demo.
I'm okay with all the formation drawing and stuff - the thing I think makes it feel a bit janky at times is the drawing a rainbow-circle-thing to recruit new heroes or make something happen in the level. Sometimes the camera / touchscreen relationship feels a bit fucked up there..
Genuinely good game though, really love the daft little Viewtiful-Joe-esque scenes and skits and the arcadey beatemup feel of it all
I was immediately turned off of the Luigi physics and the 100 second timer - but then you realise every level is almost 20 seconds long at most.
I got the 5 star on Mario, going to do the same for Luigi. Not going to bother with Challenges - though some are stupidly difficult. The Super Plays are some TAS level work, from the bonus videos shown.
Playing games off-TV on the GamePad. :lawd
So what if it's 480p? Good enough for Wii, good enough for me.
It is great, but it's a shame you can't wander away too far. I get about 30 feet away and it turns into a slideshow.
I'm sure we will get an Official Nintendo Signal Repeater (MSRP 89.99) in the coming years.
Looks like a game ulillillia would play.
5* Mario U and Luigi U - playing Zombi U now
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-secret-developers-wii-u-the-inside-story
Now that the game was up and running on the console we could start developing features that would use the new controllers and make our game stand out on the platform. But soon after starting this we ran into some issues that the (minimal) documentation didn't cover, so we asked questions of our local Nintendo support team. They didn't know the answers so they said they would check with the developers in Japan and we waited for a reply. And we waited. And we waited.
After about a week of chasing we heard back from the support team that they had received an answer from Japan, which they emailed to us. The reply was in the form of a few sentences of very broken English that didn't really answer the question that we had asked in the first place. So we went back to them asking for clarification, which took another week or so to come back. After the second delay we asked why it was taking to long for replies to come back from Japan, were they very busy? The local support team said no, it's just that any questions had to be sent off for translation into Japanese, then sent to the developers, who replied and then the replies were translated back to English and sent back to us. With timezone differences and the delay in translating, this usually took a week !
"The difference with Wii U was that when we first started out, getting the graphics and GPU to run at an acceptable frame-rate was a real struggle. The hardware was always there, it was always capable. Nintendo gave us a lot of support - support which helps people who are doing cross-platform development actually get the GPU running to the kind of rate we've got it at now. We benefited by not quite being there for launch - we got a lot of that support that wasn't there at day one... the tools, everything."
The translation stuff is horrendous -- people working at Nintendo Großostheim have to be multilingual, but the guys doing the actual development don't? There should at least be an intermediary translation team in place during the formative phase / console transition that are there to help iron out these documentation and hardware bug problems
Most of the main complaints pointed at in the article from the dev is aimed at pre-retail release SDK problems. I can safely say that the post release SDK kit given to developers now do not contain any of the listed problems and being an early on developer on any new hardware will pose challenges to those unfamiliar. Programming and coding is most of the time trial-and-error. Wii U game development takes the same amount of work and attention as a Xbox 360 or PS3 game development. They've done their process of making their API understandable and useful to seasoned programmers. Wii U development = any other game console development time.-Christopher F Arnold @Kurisuellegarde
QuoteAt some point in this conversation we were informed that it was no good referencing Live and PSN as nobody in Nintendo's development teams used those systems (!) so could we provide more detailed explanations for tchem.
:sabu :sabu :sabu
You can't call this anything but arrogance.
I like how they didn't know how xbox Live worked
Stuck a mile up their own ass?I like how they didn't know how xbox Live worked
Seriously, where has Nintendo been for the past decade?
So is 3D World as easy as I've been hearing it is? I greatly look forward to playing it whenever I get a Wii U, but I'm kind worried about the apparent lack of difficulty.
I enjoyed NSMB but the game was way too fucking easy.
Nintendo games aren't about depth or difficulty, they're about clever design. This is not news.
I like how they didn't know how xbox Live worked
3D World is even easier than NSMB.
The levels (seem) shorter and they shower you in power ups. The only time I really died is when I would get too aggressive in jumping or in a few of those boards where the screen slowly moves (forcing you forward).
It's still very well done and fun. Multiplayer works much better, too.
I'm still early in the game and so far it is indeed a cakewalk, but I'm hoping for secret worlds akin to 3D Land that'll up the ante. Is there anything like that here?
(I remember Hyoushi calling the challenge in later levels BS, so here's hoping)
I'm still bitter about the lack of online because the MP is so well done and so much fun.
"We tried to make it possible to join your own Mii with TW100 as a hero,” Kamiya tweeted. “We hope we can do it in TW102.”
Zombi U is "ok" - it's super easy though, I am confused how people actually die in this game. There are no difficulties beyond "Normal" and "Survival" - Survival being that once you die, you start all over. Normal is basically, when you die, you get a new character and continue onward.
For $10 it wasn't a bad buy, though.
(http://abload.de/img/8c73c31335e28c65eb608nfzq2.jpg)
The BEWSD (Belgian Early Warning System on Drugs) warns of a drug called Nintendo, and then it is not about the hardware manufacturer and game developer, but an ecstasy pill that firm gaining popularity but it can be deadly. Soon Namely the pill contains a very high amount of MDMA, the active ingredient in ecstasy, which, for example, an average 14-year-old girl can be fatal.
The new pills are probably massively imported from China via the Modus Vivendi project discovered in the surroundings of Brussels. Modus Vivendi allows drug users to anonymously bring their drugs in and to check its quality. In this way one tries to minimize the risks. Somewhat In Flanders, such a project does not exist.
As stated the pills in question are popular, which is due to their strong performance and popular names. Thus, not only for Nintendo warned, but also for Mitsubishi, Superman, Li-lon and Butterfly. The pills often contain the logo of Nintendo, where the company probably is not happy about, and the same goes for the other pills, so that may be confused with a candy.
GameFly sent me Sonic Lost World. Feel the disappointment
I finished it last night - lost my character on a screwup involving using the bat on an "explosive" enemy. Was pissed, lol.
The rest of the game involved running a lot since they seem to throw a lot of zombies your way. I dont really understand the Prepper though and his story.
I was disappointed there wasnt really a traditional final boss - all you do is reach the final area and... the game ends.
How can it be so bad? WoM for it is awful. Isn't it just Generations+, and wasn't Generations considered good?
I do have to bring up is how the Wii U GamePad is used. (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/preview/36408) If you are playing on the television, the touchscreen will have nothing displayed on it and it stays blank the entire time. There are no options to quickly select levels or see simple information displayed. If you are going for off-TV play, it is the same deal as nothing will be displayed on the television. It is not the worst thing ever, but it made me want to use the GamePad less and that can't be what Nintendo and Retro Studios wanted.
That's a good thing. It bugs the living shit out of me when the gamepad does nothing but regurgitate info, or a video, or even audio. Waste of juice.
Sonic did this. It would pop up a (?) icon, and I'm like... what the fuck is that? Turns out you have to look down at the gamepad and press the icon. I'm playin a fuckin Sonic game, tell me right there.
Tropical Freeze sounds more like a Taco Bell exclusive Mountain Dew flavor than a video game to me.
How can it be so bad? WoM for it is awful. Isn't it just Generations+, and wasn't Generations considered good?Nope. Different engine (so not Hedgehog Engine), semi-different sound direction, and took more notes from Galaxy than Generations.
Link to the Past will be released on the Weeoo tomorrow. I'm so glad I nabbed the Club Reward version for Wii.
Paying $8 for a ROM. :sabu
like, they sold 700k copies of namco museum on the PSP in america
like, they sold 700k copies of namco museum on the PSP in america
the PSP
Anybody pick up DK? I was about to buy it but it said I needed to clean my fridge so I'm putting it off.
Semi-related:
:drudge eShop cards (also works on 3DS) are 20% off at Best Buy today only and you can order online :drudge
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/promo/save-on-nintendo-eshop-cards-115703?ref=199&loc=je6NUbpObpQ&siteID=je6NUbpObpQ-sTxu0OSyjquK_V6A4FqfEg
Spent $120 and got $150-worth of cards. :mynicca No sales tax either and free shipping, pretty damn sweet.
Watchagunnado.
There aren't that many polished platformers out there, so nothing bad about it, no? Kinda want a wiiu because I want to play a proper jump n run.
There aren't that many polished platformers out there, so nothing bad about it, no? Kinda want a wiiu because I want to play a proper jump n run.
Same game as DKCR but I'd say I'm liking this more due to the more varied playable support characters. Game also feels tougher but that might be in my head and I'm not far enough to really say if this is harder than it's predecessor. Graphically I think it looks solid due to simply how clean it all looks and 60 fps, albeit a must for this genre, is fantastic. I can't think of any negatives off the top of my head other than it really is "more of the same" but that's what I expected and I'm not disappointed.
If you liked DKCR and would happily play a safe sequel (I know I did) then by all means pick this up. I wouldn't buy a Wii U for it though.
I need a new hard drive before I download it. =/ Not cleaning out my fridge.
For all three of us who bought DKCTF
I thought about buying it.Wii U in a nutshell.
But I haven't.
I got a Wii U basic for $200 on sale, along with donkey kong and wonderful 101 (price already dropped to $30). It took over an hour just to download the newest firmware, and good lord even the simplest menu options take seconds to load up. I don't even want to know how bad it was when the console just launched. The controller is just "wtf" no matter how many times I look at it.
I only played a few minutes of W101, but it seems like Kamiya getting a bit too self indulgent. Especially with the player represented by a dozen little people and the shape drawing. I'm sure I'll get into it but I see why it's offputting to newbies and casuals.
Tropical Freeze is just like DCKR, looks and plays great too.
The only other game I'm looking forward to is Bayonetta 2, but I'm still pretty hype for it.
A redesigned console as small as the Wii minus a GamePad and plus a Protroller for $250... there are worse things they could do. :larry
DK Tropical Freeze is pretty underwhelming unfortunately. I shoulda picked up Rayman Legends instead.
DK Tropical Freeze is pretty underwhelming unfortunately. I shoulda picked up Rayman Legends instead.
anyway, the Wii U Pro Controller is amazing. I had the controller since wii u launch, and started to use it often ~9 months ago when a pc dongle came out, and after all this time it dropped to 1 bar and the charge light turned on. and a few hours later it's still going. 80 hour battery life :bow2 wimpy ~3 hour wii u tablet and ~10 hour dualshock 4 :piss2
Would the WiiU Pro make a good substitute for a 360 pad (pc use)? I had a 360 pad before and wanted to buy one, but I'm a bit reluctant cause I play 2d games and emulators quite a bit and the 360 pad is shite. What kind of dongle is that? Can't imagine Nintendo making a pc dongle ???
Just get a Bluetooth dongle and install GlovePie (I think.) Should work fine.
I started playing Wonderful 101 and it's a bummer so far. I'll give it the benefit of the doubt for two reasons: kaimya, and the demo started you with more abilities/upgrades and I remember enjoying it. But shit, the cutscenes, qtes, constant interruptions, random stuff popping up on screen with no context in the menus, etc etc make a terrible first impression. Used to be that these games didn't dick you around before the action. but then again Kamiya made Okami...
And the fixed camera seems real bad. Enemies will attack you from off screen and there's no indicator that it's happening. In the first level there are these tank enemies with two basic telegraph and strike moves, but you can't see them telegraph those moves off screen. The only way to move the camera is to run to that part of the arena, but then you're leaving other enemies on the other side of the arena to blindside you >:(
On the plus side, I'm not having real control issues since switching to the 360 controller. Still seems like you need the tablet nearby for certain actions. An example is for the quick items you use with the d-pap, the hud icon is on the tablet screen. Another is how going into buildings switches the view to the tablet. And while you can hit select to switch screens or make it picture-in-picture, you can't interact with that second screen without the tablet.
really hope it's just a shaky start
wonderful 101 gets better and ends up alright but stays a bummer. really disappointing to see kamiya make a game more about style than gameplay.
at least the story and style is entertaining enough. it's super sentai crossed with gurren lagann. and the core combat is fun, even if it's simplistic compared to other action games. but the level and encounter designs are kinda lazy/bad. you'll end up fighting a pair of giant metal turtles over and over and since the combat feels more puzzle-y, you're basically going through the motions each time. at least the boss fights are fun...when you're allowed to fight the bosses.
the big problem is that it's constantly making you play different mini-games. if anyone remembers those bad parts of bayonetta, the motorcycle and shit-space harrier parts, that's all throughout wonderful 101. it wouldn't be so bad if the mini-games weren't around the quality of those levels in bayonetta. and the qtes, long cutscenes, etc never let up. it's game that keeps distracting you from playing the fun part, and the fun part isn't great on its own.
and it has some rough technical problems. load times are terrible. there are loading times to enter and exit loading screens. it's literally: black loading screen > 'training area' loading screen (this one is long) > black loading screen. frame rate doesn't hold at 60 and there are sections of the game that crash the frame rate, like a reoccurring (long) boss battle where it's constantly choppy and slow. that tends to be annoying in most games but here it affects the line drawing and it's downright frustrating when the difference between sword, whip, and hammer are slight curves. and there's the bad camera, controls, and occasionally glitchiness makes it feel strangely unpolished at times.
anyway, the Wii U Pro Controller is amazing. I had the controller since wii u launch, and started to use it often ~9 months ago when a pc dongle came out, and after all this time it dropped to 1 bar and the charge light turned on. and a few hours later it's still going. 80 hour battery life :bow2 wimpy ~3 hour wii u tablet and ~10 hour dualshock 4 :piss2
Anyone know if I can take a Wii U system across state lines and leave the GamePad at home? Will it let me boot up and play a game?Ask your mom.
REDMOND, Wash.--(BUSINESS WIRE)-- Nintendo is planning to make April a month to remember for fans of classic games with weekly Virtual Console releases featuring renowned entries in many of the company's most beloved franchises. From April 3 through April 24, select Game Boy Advance titles will launch in the Nintendo eShop on Wii U each week. In addition to off-TV play, these games feature Restore Points that save progress during game play, and Miiverse functionality. Top-selling NES game Super Mario Bros. 3 also launches for both Wii U and Nintendo 3DS on April 17. Considered by many to be one of the best games ever made, the title makes for a great way to enjoy the Easter holiday weekend and beyond.
Key upcoming Virtual Console releases in April include:
April 3:
Advance Wars (Wii U, $7.99): Command air, ground and naval forces in strategic turn-based battles to drive back the vibrant armies of several scheming generals. Order troops carefully, then watch as tanks obliterate enemies and jets go head-to-head in midair dogfights. Can you fend off an army of elite strategists? It's your move.
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga (Wii U, $7.99): Leap and level up as Mario and Luigi simultaneously in their first role-playing adventure as a team of Bros. When an evil witch replaces Princess Peach's voice with explosives, the Bros. must venture beyond the Mushroom Kingdom to save her. Control each bro separately or together, then team up to unleash Bros. Attacks on Fawful's fan-favorite face.
Metroid Fusion (Wii U, $7.99): Your mission: Eradicate the X parasites and the mutants they infect. Power up with the Fusion Suit to annihilate your enemies in this action-packed side-scroller set on an isolated research station. Along the way, you'll find game-changing items like the Space Jump as you lose yourself in the blissful solitude of this eerily engrossing adventure.
April 10:
Kirby & The Amazing Mirror (Wii U, $6.99): When the going gets tough, Kirby gets cloning. Call in colorful clone reinforcements to aid Kirby in blasting, bashing and smashing his foes. With a new menace at his side, Dark Meta Knight is corrupting the sprawling, mazelike Mirror Kingdom. Join the famous pink puffball on an adventure to save the land in this classic platformer.
WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Microgame$! (Wii U, $6.99): Get ready for video games done Wario-style. In the game that started the WarioWare, Inc. empire, Wario has a plan to get rich quick. Skate, jump, scare and shoot your way through more than 200 frantic, rapid-fire microgames of every type, from retro classics to sports games to sci-fi shooters that anyone can pick up and play.
April 17
Super Mario Bros. 3 (Wii U and Nintendo 3DS, $4.99): Jump, swim and fly through one of the greatest and most beloved Super Mario Bros. games of all time. In this timeless NES classic, you'll battle through over 70 baddie-infested courses and face off against the infamous Koopalings. Bowser and the Koopalings are causing chaos yet again, but this time, they're going beyond the Mushroom Kingdom and into seven neighboring worlds. Lucky for the brothers, they have more power-ups than ever before. Fly above the action with the Super Leaf, swim faster as Frog Mario or turn into stone and drop onto enemies as Tanooki Mario. You can even choose your path on the map to reach the end of the World. There, you'll have to pass massive Airships filled with cannons and fire traps to reach a showdown with one of the Koopalings.
F-Zero: Maximum Velocity (Wii U, $6.99): Get your adrenaline pumping and race plasma-powered machines till your knuckles turn white. Boost down some of the most dangerous tracks in the universe and strive for victory at all costs, even if it means ramming your opponents off the road. Revel in your accomplishments and climb the Grand Prix standings to unlock tracks and vehicles.
Golden Sun (Wii U, $7.99): Marvel at your own awesome power while protecting the world as it crumbles around you. Wield mighty weapons and use your mind to bend reality with magical Psynergy in the premiere installment of this epic RPG series. To aid you on your quest, seek out the omnipotent creatures known as Djinn - but beware: You must defeat them to harness their power.
April 24
Yoshi's Island: Super Mario Advance 3 (Wii U, $7.99): Yoshi is back, baby, and he's ready to romp through a crayon-colored world where enemies are everywhere. Prepare to flutter jump and toss eggs to protect young Mario from the evil Magikoopa, Kamek. To save the day, Yoshi and his pals will have to morph into vehicles and even EAT their enemies to turn them into eggs. Umm ... yum?
WiiU Saved, $8 GBA ROMs for all
what's the point of selling you the shitty gba port of yoshi's island when they are already selling you yoshi's island other than reminding us all that nintendo shame knows no bound?
That's the thing, 'goose. They *aren't* already selling the proper version. That version has never been released on VC since Super FX2 emulation is just too hard for Nintendo, apparently.
GOD WHY DID I BUY THIS SYSTEM
Tasty no! Don't buy a latter day Sonic.
or a former day one either, for that matter
http://kotaku.com/frostbites-april-fools-joke-is-kinda-mean-1556136401
Frostbite will power #HalfLife3, coming out summer 2014! #WiiU exclusive.
— FrostbiteEngine (@FrostbiteEngine) April 1, 2014
Not that WiiU hasn't earned it, but should DICE be chucking stones about tech stuff right now? Isn't Battlefield 4 *still* broken?
well, okay, same question applies. i just don't know that those guys should be tossing stones considering the level up of fuck-up that's occurred with that release. frostbite engine doesn't seem to be running properly on *anything*, never mind the wiiU.
WiiU Saved, $8 GBA ROMs for all
WiiU Saved, $8 GBA ROMs for all
When does the DS virtual console start?
Anyway, how is Golden Sun ???
WiiU Saved, $8 GBA ROMs for all
When does the DS virtual console start?
Anyway, how is Golden Sun ???
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I feel like they overdid it with the water on the trackYea, it looks too realistic in that environment. Remind me of the water in 3D Dot Game Heroes. Or when people add fanc water shaders to Minecraft.
it looks like Mario Kart again. Wake me up when they actually try something new with the series.
What exactly would you like to see them add?
it looks like Mario Kart again. Wake me up when they actually try something new with the series.
Like what? It's a racing game, there's not a lot of room for innovation. They added the underwater/gliding stuff last time, along with some new power-ups. I'm sure they have a couple of new things this time, too, but at the end of the day, it's a racing game, and within that genre, I'd say the Mario Kart series has actually been a bit bold about changing things up.
I get "I'm sick of Mario Kart", but not "I want Mario Kart, but with more changes". What exactly would you like to see them add?
Maybe it's just me, but I don't like the way Mario Kart 8 looks. I feel like the environmental effects, and overall track design look too realistic for the cartoony character models.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't like the way Mario Kart 8 looks. I feel like the environmental effects, and overall track design look too realistic for the cartoony character models.
I like that about it. It looks like figurines racing. It's what Smash Bros should look like seeing as how it's actually about figurines fighting. The game is impressive for the hardware considering it runs at 720p, 60fps, and it look like that, especially compared to the Sonic or Modnation/LBP kart racers.
as for what changes to make with the series, look at diddy kong racing, crash team racing, or either sonic kart racer. not saying it needs to make those changes. the mario kart series does well using its same formula since 92.
and while I'm bummed that nintendo is embracing its new hardware by making the same old games with better graphics, the last mario kart I spent time with was mario kart ds about 8 or 9 years ago. I might be interested in getting mario kart 8.
What exactly about those other kart racers should we be looking at? A more robust single player mode? That I agree with.
Apart from that, the only thing I can really see is a different driving model (like Sonic's Outrun-based style), but that would be pretty weird and truly change for the sole purpose of change. They've already nicked the flying thing from DKR, and All-Stars Transformed nicked flying/water from MK7.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't like the way Mario Kart 8 looks. I feel like the environmental effects, and overall track design look too realistic for the cartoony character models.
Yeah, me and my cousin played that mode exclusively on the SNES. Fun times.
...but... I already bought it...
...but... I already bought it...
So... trade it or sell it? Want to give me a deal?
New Smash reveals are :zzz - Greninja and Charizard as new charas? Who gives a shit... Aside from Little Mac I've been pretty disappointed with the new roster so far.
Also the 3DS has more interesting stages than the WiiU so far. :bow BALLOON FIGHT STAGE :bow2
EDIT 2: no more transformation moves, so sheik and zero suit samus are now their own character's
3DS has a unique multiplayer mode where the character go around a metroidvania like stage for 5 minutes beating baddie's from nintendo games like goomba's, zelda stalfos, megaman mettaurs and pikmin bulborb's to collect power up for the eventual on stage fight
QuoteEDIT 2: no more transformation moves, so sheik and zero suit samus are now their own character's
Wat
That's distinguished mentally-challenged.
Seriously? I've wanted Sheik and ZSS to be their own characters for so long.QuoteEDIT 2: no more transformation moves, so sheik and zero suit samus are now their own character's
Wat
That's distinguished mentally-challenged.
Get excited for shitty mascot party fighter 13, brehs.
Wow, the WiiU release schedule must be pretty bad for The Bore to be talking about this shit.
Get excited for shitty mascot party fighter 13, brehs.
Get excited for fun party games, brehs. ohwait
Wow, the WiiU release schedule must be pretty bad for The Bore to be talking about this shit.
3DS version of smash bros out in summer, wii u version on winter
not even nintendo believes in the wii u :lol
EDIT: oh god there is a "FINAL DESTINATION ONLY" mode, in fact every stage has a final destination mode that make the stage flat and remove all of the hazard, i'm not making this shit up
no items, fox only, final destination is finaly an official mode
EDIT 2: no more transformation moves, so sheik and zero suit samus are now their own character's
Wavebird or gtfo
3DS version of smash bros out in summer, wii u version on winter
not even nintendo believes in the wii u :lol
EDIT: oh god there is a "FINAL DESTINATION ONLY" mode, in fact every stage has a final destination mode that make the stage flat and remove all of the hazard, i'm not making this shit up
no items, fox only, final destination is finaly an official mode
EDIT 2: no more transformation moves, so sheik and zero suit samus are now their own character's
Final destination IS the competitive scene in smash bros melee. This is a good sign that Sakurai considers these people relevant.
Be in denial about games that bring out your inner child, brehs.
Lol it was a "problem" with Brawl but now it's almost comical how much hold Pokemon has on Smash.
Gen 1: Pikachu, Charizard, Jigglypuff (presumably)
Gen 2: :'(
Gen 3: Who gives a shit
Gen 4: Lucario
Gen 5: :'( (assloads of Pokeballs though, looks like)
Gen 6: Greninja
Thing is every new generation introduces more than a couple Pokemon that'd be awesome for Smash, which is about 15000% more characters than Nintendo otherwise introduces per a console generation.
Smash 5 will probably have half the roster be Pokemon and it'll be glorious. :aahWavebird or gtfo
No rumble? For Smash Bros.? Gtfo.
Lol it was a "problem" with Brawl but now it's almost comical how much hold Pokemon has on Smash.
Gen 1: Pikachu, Charizard, Jigglypuff (presumably)
Gen 2: :'(
Gen 3: Who gives a shit
Gen 4: Lucario
Gen 5: :'( (assloads of Pokeballs though, looks like)
Gen 6: Greninja
Thing is every new generation introduces more than a couple Pokemon that'd be awesome for Smash, which is about 15000% more characters than Nintendo otherwise introduces per a console generation.
Smash 5 will probably have half the roster be Pokemon and it'll be glorious. :aahWavebird or gtfo
No rumble? For Smash Bros.? Gtfo.
Smash 5 will have Master Chief and Nathan Drake
I own a 3DS, not a Wii U. It's not that hard to see why I'd get the handheld version instead.
the main Smash experience.
It seems like that's what they're trying to do, though. And that exclusive mode sounds nothing like Subspace Emissary(man that name is still terrible). It just sounds like a new mode to add variety to multiplayer.
My entire point is the dickwaving over the 3DS supposedly having a "leg up" on the Wii U version by having an extra mode is that it's undone by the mode being shitty. Both versions having shitty SSE modes would only further my point.
Smash has always been a litmus test for me. You like it, you're 'tarded.
This strikes me as one of those things like RPGs where you have extremely limited and/or narrow experience with the topic.
the great ports of Street Fighter games on Nintendo handhelds.If only GBA Street Fighter Alpha 3 had had World Tour mode. :fbm
The people pretending they're excited for the 3DS version is just like, really? :gurl
Fighters on handhelds. :heh
This is like getting excited for City Folk when New Leaf is three months away. Certain series are best on console or on handheld. I mean, it's easy justifying not buying a Wii U as it is, so going "meh console Smash doesn't excite me much but OH MAN HANDHELD SMASH GIMME SUMMA DAT" is ::) worthy.
(MH is the rare franchise that's excellent and deserves play on both.)
Also, that barebones Street Fighter 4 port was hot for all of 12 minutes before everyone realized it was only hyped as a launch window game and remembered handheld fighters are lame as hell.
the great ports of Street Fighter games on Nintendo handhelds.If only GBA Street Fighter Alpha 3 had had World Tour mode. :fbm
man that port was wizard magic. WIZARDRY I SAY.
The people pretending they're excited for the 3DS version is just like, really? :gurl
Fighters on handhelds. :heh
This is like getting excited for City Folk when New Leaf is three months away. Certain series are best on console or on handheld. I mean, it's easy justifying not buying a Wii U as it is, so going "meh console Smash doesn't excite me much but OH MAN HANDHELD SMASH GIMME SUMMA DAT" is ::) worthy.
(MH is the rare franchise that's excellent and deserves play on both.)
That's one of the more ignorant comments I've seen posted here in a while. There's been plenty of great portable fighting games going all the way back to the Gameboy days -Takara absolutely nailed the game play with World Heroes 2 Jet back then- never mind the Neo-Geo Pocket Color and its amazing fighters like SNK Vs. Capcom Match Of The Millennium. Port quality only continued to improve with later hardware and nowadays you get portable versions of games that play exactly the same as the console versions and allow you to do cross-play.Also, that barebones Street Fighter 4 port was hot for all of 12 minutes before everyone realized it was only hyped as a launch window game and remembered handheld fighters are lame as hell.
:what
Did you even play that game? Who the fuck would call SSF4 3D Edition "barebones?" :lol That port had all of the content from SSF4, all of its DLC (at the time) included, online play, and added modes/features that took advantage of what the 3DS hardware offered...from 3D, to one-cart multiplayer, to street pass battles. The Lite Mode control scheme was completely broken, but Capcom was smart enough to allow that to be filtered out when playing online. I still load it up every now and then people are still playing it. It was a great port. Don't talk about shit you clearly don't know anything about.the great ports of Street Fighter games on Nintendo handhelds.If only GBA Street Fighter Alpha 3 had had World Tour mode. :fbm
man that port was wizard magic. WIZARDRY I SAY.
I couldn't believe how good a job Crawfish Interactive did (Crawfish!) after their shitty SFA1 GBC port. One of the devs said that they could have made it pretty much perfect, had Capcom allowed them to use a bigger cart size.
I played too much Samurai Showdown and World Heroes 2 Jet on my GameBoy one summer. :punch
Andrex spewing shit out of his ass? shocking :beli
Fighting games on handhelds are alright (loved playing Guilty Gear Accent Core on my PSP and i have Blazblue also).
Andrex spewing shit out of his ass? shocking :beli
:lolQuoteFighting games on handhelds are alright (loved playing Guilty Gear Accent Core on my PSP and i have Blazblue also).
Ah, yeah- the Arc fighters all played great on portables (still have GGX Advance Edition for GBA...didn't look the best, but it had everything intact!) and BlazBlue on Vita is pretty much perfect. IIRC the upcoming Chrono Phantasma port is gonna have cross-play with PS3.
QuoteI hear Street Fighter X Tekken wasn't bad either
It's my favorite version of the game- all the content is there (the "DLC" characters were even included for free...the only non rip-off version released!), the game play is great, there's an exclusive endless battle ("burst kumite") mode, and it has cross-play with the PS3 version. You can even use the Vita version as a controller for the PS3 version (Marvel has this feature, too) and they added some wacky AR crap; similar to SSF4 on 3DS, Capcom crammed in extra stuff taking advantage of all the Vita's features.
Well, obviously, yeah. Tech wasn't there back then.
Well, obviously, yeah. Tech wasn't there back then.
Tech still isn't there IMO. Smash 3DS looks like shit.
Yep, I'll take my lumps on this one. Never cared for fighters, really.
From an outsider perspective, the hype is always with the console versions though. Handheld fighting games are held in high esteem if they manage to somehow not fuck something up in the transition. Never seen a AAA handheld-only fighter.
People excited for Smash 3DS is just odd for me. Smash wouldn't be the franchise it is today if it had started on a handheld.
Glad you agree. :yeshrug
Yep, I'll take my lumps on this one. Never cared for fighters, really.
Then why would you even say what you said? :dizzyQuoteFrom an outsider perspective, the hype is always with the console versions though. Handheld fighting games are held in high esteem if they manage to somehow not fuck something up in the transition. Never seen a AAA handheld-only fighter.
Handheld-only? That's easy:
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People want to play portable versions of fighters for practice/competition on the go. It's really only something that started with the likes of amazing ports like Tekken 5DR on the PSP in 2005.QuotePeople excited for Smash 3DS is just odd for me. Smash wouldn't be the franchise it is today if it had started on a handheld.
Yeah, because games that start on portables never get popular. Remember that Pokemon game? LOL that shit never had a chance.
Well, obviously, yeah. Tech wasn't there back then.
Tech still isn't there IMO. Smash 3DS looks like shit.
Then why would you even say what you said? :dizzy
Yeah, because games that start on portables never get popular. Remember that Pokemon game? LOL that shit never had a chance.
Certain kinds of games just seem like they're made for console or handheld and feel weird when jumping to the other side.Not fighters. You'd know that if you were a fan of the genre, but instead of listening to those who have been playing them on handhelds since the NeoGeo Pocket days, you continue to talk out of your ass.
I now own every WiiU game worth buying/playing until Bayo 2. Prove me wrong:
- Zelda HD
- Pikmin 3
- NSMBU/LuigiU
- Wonderful 101
- DKC Freezie Pops
- Mario 3D
- ZombiU
In other news NES Remix 2 is pretty great!
How many unlockable games are there? I just got Zelda 2
To commemorate this occasion, Nintendo is inviting 16 highly skilled Super Smash Bros. players to the NOKIA Theatre L.A. LIVE in Los Angeles to compete in a Super Smash Bros. for Wii U tournament.
Register Mario Kart 8 at Club Nintendo between May 30th and July 31st and receive a free digital download code of the following:
- Pikmin 3
- New Super Mario Bros. U
- The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker HD
- Wii Party U
Actor Bob Hoskins, who was best known for roles in The Long Good Friday and Who Framed Roger Rabbit, has died of pneumonia at the age of 71.
How big is the download size for Pikmin?
If you buy Mario Kart 8, you get a free game:QuoteRegister Mario Kart 8 at Club Nintendo between May 30th and July 31st and receive a free digital download code of the following:
- Pikmin 3
- New Super Mario Bros. U
- The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker HD
- Wii Party U
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:violin
In other news Wario Land 4 will hit the Wii U VC tomorrow. :rock
Where the Virtual Boy? :teehee
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:violin
In other news Wario Land 4 will hit the Wii U VC tomorrow. :rock
I wanted to ask if Nintendo would erase wii u from future reports like they did with the vb, but this is the end of the line as far as hardware nintendo goes
I wanted to ask if Nintendo would erase wii u from future reports like they did with the vb, but this is the end of the line as far as hardware nintendo goes
:lol
You're right, I didn't even notice that was omitted and I've got one on my desk!
I wanted to ask if Nintendo would erase wii u from future reports like they did with the vb, but this is the end of the line as far as hardware nintendo goes
:lol
You're right, I didn't even notice that was omitted and I've got one on my desk!
You got a vb? Sweet.
How is it?
Ive only seen one irl once, last year
I wanted to ask if Nintendo would erase wii u from future reports like they did with the vb, but this is the end of the line as far as hardware nintendo goes
:lol
You're right, I didn't even notice that was omitted and I've got one on my desk!
You got a vb? Sweet.
How is it?
Ive only seen one irl once, last year
It's a Wii game that you can play in Wii Mode on the Wii U, which is lame.
I bought a Wii U today. :-[ My birthday is tomorrow and I got enough cash from the family to cover most of it. Already got the new Vita, so figured why the hell not?
Got the NSMB U/Luigi U bundle along with 3D World, Wonderful 101, and Tekken. Will get Mario Kart at the end of the month too. No Andrex, I don't want that Monster Hunter garbage.
Time to hook up this piece of shit and see how it is up close!
If you wanted to make sure I never come over and hang out when I move back to Atlanta next week, you could have just said so.
:snoop
Does Tekken Tag 2 still have to load when you rematch offline? It's one of the biggest gripes I have with the PS3 version (though it's still not that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things).
Is NES Remix worth checking out? That's pretty much the only other game out of interest to me.
bork get a Protroller and MH3U :aah
Got the NSMB U/Luigi U bundle along with 3D World, Wonderful 101, and Tekken. Will get Mario Kart at the end of the month too. No Andrex, I don't want that Monster Hunter garbage.
Is NES Remix worth checking out? That's pretty much the only other game out of interest to me.
Do you like retro gaming (especially from the "black box" era of the NES)?
Did you like Retro Game Challenge for the DS?
That should tell you what you need to know... also you and I have the exact same WiiU library (aside from me owning the 2 NES Remixes) :P
Miss out on one of the few great games for the Nintendo system you bought cause you suck at games, brehs
Bork - nope, they're all minigames (usually anywhere from 30 secs to 1:30 in length)... there are a lot of minigames and to get all golds takes probably about 10 hours on each game, all rainbows considerably more time. NES Remix 2 contains a full mirrored version of SMB1 starring Luigi though.
Hmm...I could see myself playing some of those games and never touching others then.
Bahahaha, thats hilarious.
@chubby hubby, yes it's real
https://twitter.com/nintendoamerica/status/472076848382607361
Is that real?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMQySEjyCUw
Nintendo is officially #ESPORTS. :obama
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMQySEjyCUw
Nintendo is officially #ESPORTS. :obama
2 posts up was mario driving a chrysler ???:ufup
2 posts up was mario driving a chrysler ???
Sounds like a solid 8.5, thanks for the review.
QuoteSounds like a solid 8.5, thanks for the review.
ya - probably about right - mario kart is mario kart - some of the changes are annoying as tits, and it all feels a bit barebones, and the online is slightly backwards - but it's still Mario Kart and , online, it's still going to be decent enough.
But not a pant wetter of an entry.
2 posts up was mario driving a chrysler ???
here's the difference:
people in japan buy and drive mercedes cars
froot loops do not exist in japan
check your privilege.
done.
They released a third Arcade GP game last summer, based on Mario Kart 7. It played pretty nice but the cost is so steep, you only get one race per "go."
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=829369
Shit...
Iwata is staying.
I think this just goes to show that people still love Mario Kart.
The WiiU on it's own? :larry
I think this just goes to show that people still love Mario Kart.
The WiiU on it's own? :larry
Could Mario Kart 8 be the Wii U's Nintendo Dogs?
Updating my WiiU with the new "quick start" menu
?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8czOjP-jaQc
I finally bought a Pro Controller. God this thing is fantastic :o How easy is it to hook up to the PC? I might need to make this my main controller from now on :heart
Anyone up for a tourney this weekend? I was also thinking of a permanent Gforum tourney (as a pseudo lobby), but I'm not sure what gain that would be (I've just seen other places do it.)
I started Wind Waker HD... again. Well, by again I mean I turned my WiiU back on again. I'm only at Dragon Roost Cavern.
Anyone up for a tourney this weekend? I was also thinking of a permanent Gforum tourney (as a pseudo lobby), but I'm not sure what gain that would be (I've just seen other places do it.)
I might be. I haven't messed with the tournament stuff yet. seems like you need codes for lobbies?
Child, I beat Wind Waker before you even knew it existed.
Gematsu (the "leak" Magoose was so adamant about earlier) was wrong! (I figured.)
Shulk would have been a better pick than Fire Emblem Waifu Edition.
Can't wait for the rule34
Shulk would have been a better pick than Fire Emblem Waifu Edition.
Personally I'm waiting for the rule 63 :drool
Nintendo knows their target audience well :P
No new Metroid Characters :oreilly
Metroid = :trash
Metroid = :trash
no words to accurately describe my hatred right now
He's an adult.
Yeah, whoever heard of an old person being intolerant?
I think the key point is that you weren't one when Hunter x Hunter was flying high. There's a legit generation gap in play here. I only know it cuz I'm a teacher in its country of origin.
I think the key point is that you weren't one when Hunter x Hunter was flying high. There's a legit generation gap in play here. I only know it cuz I'm a teacher in its country of origin.
why cant you watch Naruto instead?
Wow this is some conversation
P.S. I support gay rights
why cant you watch Naruto instead?A better question would be why I don't watch One Piece.
Why cant you all watch "attack on titan" like all everybody else...
Attack on Titan is the same old garbage anime tropes presented in a bloodier/"more mature" package. The amount of pointless screaming and yelling on the show rivals One Piece, and Eren is the typical shonen hero with asspull powers to a tee. I was excited to watch it, but I should have known better than to let AnimeGAF hype me on something.
Attack on Titan is the same old garbage anime tropes presented in a bloodier/"more mature" package. The amount of pointless screaming and yelling on the show rivals One Piece, and Eren is the typical shonen hero with asspull powers to a tee. I was excited to watch it, but I should have known better than to let AnimeGAF hype me on something.
You have no clue. It is classed a shonen because you know it is a shonen? Yet you watch stuff like hunter x hunter like those tropes dont mean a thing.
all anime is shit. all of it.
HxH plays with expectations and the characters aren't annoying as fuck. The tr-tr-tr-triple combo of Eren, Armin, and whats-her-face make me want to punch my TV.
"Guys, this is a totally serious apocalyptic scenario. OMG THAT GIRL'S EATING A POTATO SO RANDOM L O L."
Horrible, braindead characters, full of manufactured drama that isn't fit to lick the crumbs off Hunter x Hunter's table. Attack on Titan is the Walking Dead (TV show) of anime.
HxH plays with expectations and the characters aren't annoying as fuck. The tr-tr-tr-triple combo of Eren, Armin, and whats-her-face make me want to punch my TV.
"Guys, this is a totally serious apocalyptic scenario. OMG THAT GIRL'S EATING A POTATO SO RANDOM L O L."
Horrible, braindead characters, full of manufactured drama that isn't fit to lick the crumbs off Hunter x Hunter's table. Attack on Titan is the Walking Dead (TV show) of anime.
You do realise that it is called "comic relief", it is there because no one can watch it be serious for that long and HXH does it too. And I am done with this. This argument is distinguished mentally-challenged.
well, the club nintendo platinum/gold rewards are up, and you can tell money is tight at the big N, cuz they're all digital.QuoteYou can choose ONE of the following.
Plat Only:
Game&Wario (WiiU)
NES Remix (WiiU)
Earthbound (WiiU)
Dr. Luigi (WiiU)
Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D (3DS)
Fluidity: Spin Cycle (3DS)
Dillon's Rolling Western (3DS)
Mario and Donkey Kong: Minis on the Move (3DS)
Plat & Gold:
Ice Climber (WiiU)
Kid Icarus (WiiU)
Super Mario Bros. (WiiU)
Zelda II - The Adventure of Link (WiiU)
Donkey Kong 3 (3DS)
Wario Land 2 (3DS)
Metroid (3DS)
Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins (3DS)
buy hundreds of dollars of software for a free copy of ice climber or dr. luigi, brehs
well, the club nintendo platinum/gold rewards are up, and you can tell money is tight at the big N, cuz they're all digital.QuoteYou can choose ONE of the following.
Plat Only:
Game&Wario (WiiU)
NES Remix (WiiU)
Earthbound (WiiU)
Dr. Luigi (WiiU)
Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D (3DS)
Fluidity: Spin Cycle (3DS)
Dillon's Rolling Western (3DS)
Mario and Donkey Kong: Minis on the Move (3DS)
Plat & Gold:
Ice Climber (WiiU)
Kid Icarus (WiiU)
Super Mario Bros. (WiiU)
Zelda II - The Adventure of Link (WiiU)
Donkey Kong 3 (3DS)
Wario Land 2 (3DS)
Metroid (3DS)
Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins (3DS)
buy hundreds of dollars of software for a free copy of ice climber or dr. luigi, brehs
How much?
How much?
Give u a couple bucks. Lol. They're only worth $4 on eShop.
Wait that's the same day as Pokemon (http://i.imgur.com/MKy6wMD.png)
A conflict many of us surely deal with.
Sounds like :trash
But I heard the game was good? ???
Kamiya has a habit of making divisive games.
Kamiya has a habit of making divisive games.
No lie, I'd buy Wonderful 101 if there was a Pro Controller patch. But that's probably impossible. :lol
No lie, I'd buy Wonderful 101 if there was a Pro Controller patch. But that's probably impossible. :lol
Forgive me if I'm mistaken as I didn't put a lot of time into 101, but I don't know why it's be impossible. The game is playable in off TV mode, and the only touch control stuff I remember is the drawing stuff which could be accomplished via the right analog anyway. The only thing that remains is the minimal motion control stuff to look around in certain confined, indoor areas. But I think tweaking those to work with other options hardly constitutes an impossible challenge.
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Been playing Mario Kart online, and the competition is crazy. These are the assholes with no jobs, no families, no future whipping my ass continuously because I'm too busy to put more than 2 hours of Mario kart time in a day.
My GF is playing it as well, but she refuses to adapt. Plays like a 5 year year old and gets pissed whenever she's last place.
Looking forward to Smash Bros.
I really do not like Wonderful 101. Such a shit game.
1. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate – 949 votes
2. [PS3] Persona 5 – 800 votes
3. [WIU] Hyrule Warriors – 603 votes
4. [PS4] Final Fantasy XV – 488 votes
5. [3DS] Super Smash Bros. for 3DS – 444 votes
6. [3DS] Pokemon Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire – 432 votes
7. [PS4] Kingdom Hearts III – 419 votes
8. [PS3] Tales of Zestiria – 401 votes
9. [3DS] Bravely Second – 305 votes
10. [PS4] The Evil Within – 297 votes
11. [PSV] Toukiden Extreme – 289 votes
12. [PSV] Bullet Girls – 262 votes
13. [WIU] Bayonetta 2 – 246 votes
14. [WIU] Super Smash Bros. for Wii U – 244 votes
15. [PS3] Shining Resonance – 222 votes
16. [PS4] Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain – 207 votes
17. [3DS] Forbidden Magna – 201 votes
18. [PS3] The Evil Within – 195 votes
19. [PS3] The Last Remnant – 183 votes
20. [3DS] Final Fantasy Explorers – 180 votes
21. [PS3] The Legend of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki II – 174 votes
22. [PS4] Omega Quintet – 146 votes
23. [PS4] Bloodborne – 138 votes
24. [PSV] Phantasy Star Nova – 126 votes
25. [PS3] Ni-Oh – 119 votes
26. [PS3] Persona 4 Arena Ultimax – 104 votes
27. [PS4] Destiny – 103 votes
28. [PS3] Kingdom Hearts HD 2.5 Remix – 95 votes
29. [PSV] The Legend of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki II – 94 votes
30. [PS3] The Last Guardian – 93 votes
The Last Guardian is on that list, wasn't that cancelled?
Isn't Team ICO cold and dead?
Isn't Team ICO cold and dead?
Yeah, but no one's bothered to pry Last Guardian out yet.
wow zelda musou is out in japan this week? CAN YOU FEEL THE EXCITEMENT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?spoiler (click to show/hide)no, because it's a wii u game, a zelda game and a musou game all in a single package, :zzz :zzz :zzz[close]
w101 is horribad. it's like someone made colorectal fasciitis into a game.
w101 is horribad. it's like someone made colorectal fasciitis into a game.
Nope. You're thinking of Anarchy Reigns which is an interactive version of campylobacteriosis.
Japan fucking loves them some Musou, Hyrule Warriors will do just fine over there.
What are the best wii u games? What should I know about owning a wii u? What's the cheapest way I can get a wii u? How is wii emulation? Are there any free games on wii u? That are good? Is there a cheap way to play xenoblade? Is anyone willing to let me borrow it or something?Japan fucking loves them some Musou, Hyrule Warriors will do just fine over there.
Actually, musou doesn't sell that well these days, and it's pretty niche even in Japan, the only recent exception being One piece musou's.
Over the Bon festival period, Japanese retailer Tsutaya recorded Wii U software sales four times that of the same time in 2013
"soon to be coming" disqualifies P5 and "console" disqualifies MH4U, so I'm still rappin' COOL!
QuoteOver the Bon festival period, Japanese retailer Tsutaya recorded Wii U software sales four times that of the same time in 2013
so they sold four copies of hyrule warriors? :smug
QuoteOver the Bon festival period, Japanese retailer Tsutaya recorded Wii U software sales four times that of the same time in 2013
so they sold four copies of hyrule warriors? :smug
Magus, I told you not to fuck with the musou. :punch :wag :punch
Huh, I thought I'd seen some of the games in the upper reaches/top of the charts their first weeks of release. :yeshrug
I forgot to mention that my amazing Wonderful 101 review would not be possible without the generousity of my good brother-like friend Slime. He may not approve of my life choices, but I am always grateful that he hasn't shipped me off to Makeb yet. 10 years strong, bb <3
Not a fan of my Wii U's light blinking to make sure I know about nintendo's latest ad >:(
So this'll be the third Fatal Frame game we haven't gotten, right?yeah but the even less likely to come out here 3DS non-game (Spirit Camera) did, and the Wii U needs for every game possible to come out worldwide. So I'm actually a bit optimistic about Fatal Frame coming out in America, eventually.
Fatal Frame will also have Ayane as a playable character.
Bayonetta 2 came out in Japan last week and sold...38,828 copies. :-\ Not surprised.
Can't wait till it doesn't sell in the US either.spoiler (click to show/hide):'([close]
Hyrule is the best Musou game I've played. It's a ton of fun and the Zelda window dressing really does add to the Musou gameplay.
This is a better game than Skyward Sword.
Gonna end up buying a Wii U mainly for Bayonetta 2. No regrets!
Just get one on Black Friday. There will be a gift card deal of some kind. Nobody's rushing out to buy these things.Pretty much
Wtf does an amiibo do?
Wtf does an amiibo do?
cliffs?
That's why Smash is great, it satisfies all ends of the spectrum. Smash Wii U is implementing 8-player, yes, but it also has Omega (Final Destination) forms for all stages and it's the first game in the series to implement a Hit Point option (like normal fighting games have.)
as I said, that Smash tour party game looks great. excited for that the most, honestly
One former Nintendo employee told Re/code he had heard the GamePad described as a “Fisher-Price iPad.”:whew
The initial system boot wasn't that bad. I expected something horrible. It took an hour, my god...
I also expected the system to be super slow after that one GAF thread. Maybe I'm crazy but it seems pretty quick, if not just a bit messy for an os. I don't know where a lot of things are and what not. Either way apps and everything loaded pretty quick. Netflix was pretty good. Bayonetta 2 is awesome and Mario Kart is going over well with the kids.
welcome new wii u nerds. get bayonetta
The initial system boot wasn't that bad. I expected something horrible. It took an hour, my god...
I also expected the system to be super slow after that one GAF thread. Maybe I'm crazy but it seems pretty quick, if not just a bit messy for an os. I don't know where a lot of things are and what not. Either way apps and everything loaded pretty quick. Netflix was pretty good. Bayonetta 2 is awesome and Mario Kart is going over well with the kids.
It took me about an hour too...I was ready for the worst after some horror stories
NSMBU is fun as hell
lol no. The game is out of print and you're either going to pay $75 for a disc or $60 for a download.
lol no. The game is out of print and you're either going to pay $75 for a disc or $60 for a download.
lol no. The game is out of print and you're either going to pay $75 for a disc or $60 for a download.
Good. The power of Nintendo resale :rejoice
Where did you pull that off? Quick look on ebay shows it for $20
Sucks for new adopters. But I was fortunate to have a shitload of those controllers/nunchucks still from the Wii. So, in a sense, I saved a lot of money that way (versus a typical generation transition).
The other kick in the dick you may not realize about Nintendoland is you will ALSO need the Wii Motion+ to play some of the mini-games fully.
It kind of reminds me of Wii Sports. Really fun the first time you play it with 3 other people ... then .. not so much.
Battery life can be fixed with this little guy:
https://store.nintendo.com/ng3/browse/productDetailColorSizePicker.jsp?productId=prod150204
Good. The power of Nintendo resale :rejoice
Just sold my Zelda: Spirit Tracks for 45 dollars :rejoice
Any other WiiU games I should look into for an 8 and 6 year old kid? Co op preferred. We have Mario Kart, Just Dance, and Lego Marvel.
I guess unsurprisingly the Wii U had the best system exclusives this year.
I guess unsurprisingly the Wii U had the best system exclusives this year. Wish Nintendo could work with more third parties to broaden their franchises to make up for a lack of third party support though.
I guess unsurprisingly the Wii U had the best system exclusives this year.
I feel like this is more because of how shitty the line-ups were on the Xbone and PS4 for this year, more than anything. So few actual exclusive games.
I guess unsurprisingly the PS3 had the best system exclusives this year. Wish Nintendo could work with more third parties to broaden their franchises to make up for a lack of third party support though.
I guess unsurprisingly the PS3 had the best system exclusives this year. Wish Nintendo could work with more third parties to broaden their franchises to make up for a lack of third party support though.
ftfy
I guess unsurprisingly the PS3 had the best system exclusives this year. Wish Nintendo could work with more third parties to broaden their franchises to make up for a lack of third party support though.
ftfy
The initial system boot wasn't that bad. I expected something horrible. It took an hour, my god...
I also expected the system to be super slow after that one GAF thread. Maybe I'm crazy but it seems pretty quick, if not just a bit messy for an os. I don't know where a lot of things are and what not. Either way apps and everything loaded pretty quick. Netflix was pretty good. Bayonetta 2 is awesome and Mario Kart is going over well with the kids.
I was shocked to see that Pikmin 3 went for almost $100 on Amazon. So I wound up getting Bayonetta 2, NES Remix, and Captain Toad on the premise that it might be out of print later. Seems crazy that it would be out of print.
Not surprised to see Wonderful 101 down at half price, it's been a while since I felt burned on buying a video game.The initial system boot wasn't that bad. I expected something horrible. It took an hour, my god...
I also expected the system to be super slow after that one GAF thread. Maybe I'm crazy but it seems pretty quick, if not just a bit messy for an os. I don't know where a lot of things are and what not. Either way apps and everything loaded pretty quick. Netflix was pretty good. Bayonetta 2 is awesome and Mario Kart is going over well with the kids.
For the 2012 holiday, it was pretty brutal.
I got the digital verison of Pikmin 3 for free through some promotion. Can't remember which now. Deluxe Promotion, perhaps?
I got the digital verison of Pikmin 3 for free through some promotion. Can't remember which now. Deluxe Promotion, perhaps?
And they only released a demo for it a few months ago. I guess they want to drive digital downloads. Which is great since their consoles have no memory and there is no account ownership.
I'm thinking about getting Captain Toad.
After playing some levels in 3D World, the game is harmless enough and its $40....can't hurt :yeshrug
Holy shit I found a copy of Pikmin 3 at Walmart.
:bow Killing mom and pop businesses for the sake of profit :bow2
.....which Target
my cat chewed through my tablet charge cable.Solution: never buy a cat and never buy a Wii U.
You have to wait a full day after X amount of use to unlock more edit tools/assets? So it would take over a week to get everything. WHY WOULD THEY DO THIS? Nintendo gonna Nintendo.Yep, 9 days to get to play with everything apparently. :miyamoto
Hope you can just unlock shit by changing the date. :dizzy
I wanna buy Lego Undercover due to it being a one-off lego game unlike the other games.Someone described it as GTA Lego City, and I almost bought a Wii U just to try it. :-\
Will probably pick it up at some point. I never played Canvas Curse but this looks fun.I know I'm late to this but Canvas Curse is a must-have for the DS. It's easily my favorite Kirby spinoff game.
I wanna buy Lego Undercover due to it being a one-off lego game unlike the other games.Someone described it as GTA Lego City, and I almost bought a Wii U just to try it. :-\
Can't wait to see Zelda HD when they put some gameplay,open world,AI,player control in.
Ima stan for Pikmin 3, Super Mario 3D World, and Mario Kart 8.
I like Wii U a hell of a lot better than the Wii and its waggle.
3rd party support is nonexistent, but what did people expect buying a Nintendo console.
Will buy again for Zelda :doge